November 29, 2025 • 21 mins
In this episode, I spend some time reflecting on what makes podcasting such a unique and enduring medium. After more than twenty years behind the microphone, I’m still struck by how something so simple — an audio file delivered through a humble RSS feed — continues to connect people in a way no other medium really does.
I talk about how podcasting grew up as an open technology, free from the control of big platforms or gatekeepers. That openness is part of its magic. Anyone can start a show, anyone can subscribe, and no single company controls whether a podcast lives or dies. It’s the last truly open publishing system on the internet, and that freedom is worth celebrating.
But podcasting is special for more than just the technology. There’s a kind of intimacy in audio that you don’t get with video or with text on a screen. When someone listens to a podcast, the host is right there with them — in their car, on a walk, working in the garage, or flying along on a cross-country in the RV-12. It’s a personal connection, one voice to one listener, in a way that feels almost old-fashioned, yet perfectly modern.
I also talk about how easy podcasting is to get started with and how accessible it still is for anyone who wants to share a story. You don’t need fancy cameras or editing suites. You just need a microphone, a place to publish, and something to say. That simplicity has helped the medium grow without losing its soul.
Toward the end, I share a bit of personal appreciation — how even after all these years, podcasting still feels fun, creative, and liberating. It’s a place where I can talk about anything from Northern Michigan history to flying to everyday life, and people choose to come along for the ride.
If you’ve ever wondered why podcasting still matters, or if you’ve been thinking about starting your own show, this episode is my way of reminding you what makes this medium so special.
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[Speaker 0]I think it's time for Mike Delve World.
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[Speaker 0]There it is. And here I am. This
[Speaker 0]is Mike, and you're listening to Mike Dell's
[Speaker 0]World number four thirty five for November twenty
[Speaker 0]ninth twenty twenty five. Happy Saturday. And this
[Speaker 0]is the pen I have a ultimate episode
[Speaker 0]of NAPOD promo twenty five. I have made
[Speaker 0]it twenty nine days. I have no doubt
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[Speaker 0]I will do another one tomorrow. So we
[Speaker 0]will have succeeded in completing the NAPOD promo
[Speaker 0]challenge. Also, I'm growing a mustache for Movember
[Speaker 0]or I guess it's no shave November, but
[Speaker 0]I I decided I didn't wanna go with
[Speaker 0]the beard this month, so I've got what
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[Speaker 0]could be considered a porn stash. I'll I'll
[Speaker 0]throw a picture of it on the post
[Speaker 0]for, tomorrow's episode before I, shave it off.
[Speaker 0]But, yeah, not a not a great look.
[Speaker 0]I I I look like a retired airline
[Speaker 0]pilot. That's what I always say. But, anyway
[Speaker 0]so today, I just wanted to kinda do
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[Speaker 0]a little naval gazing when it comes to
[Speaker 0]podcasting. And, you know, just explain to you
[Speaker 0]why podcasting is so special. And you, as
[Speaker 0]a avid podcast listener and maybe even a
[Speaker 0]podcaster might already know a lot of these
[Speaker 0]things, but, you know, podcasting is very, you
[Speaker 0]know, well, not very, but it's just unique.
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[Speaker 0]You know, there's not no other medium quite
[Speaker 0]like it. And, yeah, I think the main
[Speaker 0]reason that it is the way it is
[Speaker 0]is it's built on an open decentralized technology
[Speaker 0]called RSS. I'm not gonna bore you with
[Speaker 0]all the gritty details of RSS, but podcasting
[Speaker 0]isn't owned by any one company. It's not
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[Speaker 0]owned by Apple. It's not owned by Spotify.
[Speaker 0]It's not owned by YouTube or any of
[Speaker 0]the other myriad ways that you can listen
[Speaker 0]to a podcast. But because of the RSS,
[Speaker 0]anyone can publish, anyone can listen, and anyone
[Speaker 0]can build an app or directory that uses
[Speaker 0]the podcast feeds. This means there's just no
[Speaker 0]gatekeepers approving what gets published. You know, if
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[Speaker 0]I wanna say a curse word, I'm totally
[Speaker 0]able to do that. Now I don't do
[Speaker 0]that as much as I used to on
[Speaker 0]podcast just because, you know, unless it's really,
[Speaker 0]really, you know, gonna add to the content,
[Speaker 0]I I'm not gonna do that. But there's
[Speaker 0]nothing telling me that I can't, and there's
[Speaker 0]nobody telling me I can't. Now you guys
[Speaker 0]may not wanna listen to that stuff, but
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[Speaker 0]that's your choice. That's the freedom of, you
[Speaker 0]know, as a podcast listener, there's, you know,
[Speaker 0]reportedly about four to five million podcast feeds
[Speaker 0]out there. Now active podcast somewhere in the
[Speaker 0]three hundred thousand range and, you know, active
[Speaker 0]defined by, you know, an episode in within
[Speaker 0]the last thirty days, which sometimes this one
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[Speaker 0]has not been active. But I promise you
[Speaker 0]it's gonna be more active because I have
[Speaker 0]relearned my love for podcasting. You know, I
[Speaker 0]work in the podcast industry, and I've always
[Speaker 0]loved the concept, but actually doing one has
[Speaker 0]been, you know, an on and off thing
[Speaker 0]for me. You know, but I love it.
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[Speaker 0]But, again, you know, you can choose to
[Speaker 0]use whatever app you want as a listener.
[Speaker 0]The creators have full control over their content.
[Speaker 0]The technology has gotten such that it's a
[Speaker 0]lot easier to listen to podcasts. It's a
[Speaker 0]lot easier to to, create one. I mean,
[Speaker 0]anybody can, and that's pretty rare today. You
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[Speaker 0]know? It, has another, feature of podcasting is
[Speaker 0]it's a much more intimate medium. You know,
[Speaker 0]a lot of, podcast listeners will say something
[Speaker 0]like, you know, I I really feel like
[Speaker 0]I know the host. And, you know, in
[Speaker 0]my case, I do know a lot of
[Speaker 0]hosts of the podcast that I listen to,
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[Speaker 0]but that's because I can interact with them.
[Speaker 0]They're they're they're people just like me. I'm
[Speaker 0]a person just like you. You know? You
[Speaker 0]can reach out to me anytime you want
[Speaker 0]to, and, chances are I will I will
[Speaker 0]respond. You know? And another thing that you
[Speaker 0]can do with podcast and I'm specifically talking
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[Speaker 0]to talking about audio. Technically, podcasting can also
[Speaker 0]be video, and you can deliver video just
[Speaker 0]like you do audio via RSS. Nothing particularly
[Speaker 0]wrong with that. But if I wanna watch
[Speaker 0]a video, I'm gonna watch it on my
[Speaker 0]big screen on YouTube or Apple Podcasts. You
[Speaker 0]know, if it's a, RSS delivered podcast, you
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[Speaker 0]know, I can watch it on my big
[Speaker 0]screen TV. But I I'm talking mainly for
[Speaker 0]audio. So, you know, you can, you know,
[Speaker 0]you can take your podcast anywhere where you
[Speaker 0]drive, walk the dog, you work, or, even
[Speaker 0]flying. You know? I've been known to listen
[Speaker 0]to podcasts while flying my you know, flying
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[Speaker 0]the airplane myself. You know? Don't don't do
[Speaker 0]it with anybody else in the plane, but,
[Speaker 0]you know, sometimes, you know, you can do
[Speaker 0]that if you want to. Again, not, not
[Speaker 0]necessarily, you know, something that you, you know,
[Speaker 0]you have to pay that much attention to.
[Speaker 0]You know? I I routinely listen to podcasts
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[Speaker 0]while I blow the snow out of the
[Speaker 0]driveway or while I mowing the lawn or
[Speaker 0]or, you know, just washing dishes, whatever. I
[Speaker 0]can listen. I don't have to stare at
[Speaker 0]a screen. You know? It's it's definitely a
[Speaker 0]better medium for me. You know? I was
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[Speaker 0]I was always a fan of talk radio.
[Speaker 0]You know? And I, worked in the print
[Speaker 0]business. A lot of times, I was working
[Speaker 0]night shift, and there's nobody else in the
[Speaker 0]building. And, you know, I'm just running the
[Speaker 0]machine or doing some, you know, doing something
[Speaker 0]on the computer, whatever. But I I don't
[Speaker 0]have to I didn't have to sit and
[Speaker 0]watch anything. I just listened. It was like
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[Speaker 0]radio. It was better than radio. Because with
[Speaker 0]radio, you know, you don't get to pick
[Speaker 0]what comes on next. With podcast listening, you
[Speaker 0]do. I mean, you don't have to sit
[Speaker 0]still to watch the screen. You don't have
[Speaker 0]to scroll. You don't even have to look
[Speaker 0]at it. You just live your life and
[Speaker 0]listen. And it's very accessible. That's the other
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[Speaker 0]thing. You know, you can launch a podcast,
[Speaker 0]and all you need is a microphone, a
[Speaker 0]computer, or even just a phone, some place
[Speaker 0]to host the files in an RSS feed.
[Speaker 0]And, you know, where you host your files
[Speaker 0]usually gives you the means to create an
[Speaker 0]RSS feed. Of course, I work for Blueberry
[Speaker 0]Podcasting, so I would say, hey. You know,
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[Speaker 0]go over to Blueberry. We we we'll get
[Speaker 0]you covered. But you can, you know, you
[Speaker 0]can do it on the cheap. You know,
[Speaker 0]I started this podcast back in two thousand
[Speaker 0]five with a a laptop, which was a
[Speaker 0]pretty luxury item at the time. You know,
[Speaker 0]laptops weren't that, ubiquitous in two thousand five.
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[Speaker 0]Obviously, there was laptops because I had one,
[Speaker 0]and the stupid little stick microphone that came
[Speaker 0]with it. And I was sitting on my
[Speaker 0]front porch in Lake Anne, Michigan, and I
[Speaker 0]recorded the first episode, of the benzoed report.
[Speaker 0]And I'm still looking for that episode, by
[Speaker 0]the way. If anybody runs across that, I
[Speaker 0]would just love to hear how bad it
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[Speaker 0]was. But, you know, if you compare it
[Speaker 0]to YouTube, you gotta deal with all the
[Speaker 0]algorithms over there. You know, you gotta buy
[Speaker 0]all the video gear. And if you're gonna
[Speaker 0]be successful at all at it, you gotta
[Speaker 0]edit a lot and and just you know,
[Speaker 0]it's a lot of work and expense, and
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[Speaker 0]YouTube can just decide one day, I don't
[Speaker 0]like you anymore. Poof. You know? They turn
[Speaker 0]off your channel. You're done. You know? There's
[Speaker 0]no no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
[Speaker 0]You know? YouTube is pretty free, but they
[Speaker 0]have that option. You cannot be canceled as
[Speaker 0]a podcaster. You know? If you wanted to
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[Speaker 0]get into broadcasting, you you know, you gotta
[Speaker 0]either get a job somewhere, and, of course,
[Speaker 0]they're gonna tell you what to say, what
[Speaker 0]not to say, when to say it, how
[Speaker 0]to say it, what music to play, or
[Speaker 0]whatever. You know, some radio stations are more
[Speaker 0]free than others as far as that goes,
[Speaker 0]but, you know, you still gotta deal with
[Speaker 0]all that. Or, you know, if you're gonna
[Speaker 0]buy your own transmitter, I mean, that is
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[Speaker 0]expensive. You know, try to get a a
[Speaker 0]a license for broadcasting. It's not easy. Even
[Speaker 0]the low power FM, which is supposed to
[Speaker 0]be easier. Yeah. They just don't do it.
[Speaker 0]You know? It's it's extremely expensive. You know,
[Speaker 0]in streaming platforms, you know, such as Spotify,
[Speaker 0]YouTube, you know, I would consider them streaming
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[Speaker 0]platform. You get what I mean. Or, you
[Speaker 0]know, even Netflix. You know, you're not gonna
[Speaker 0]get a show on Netflix, you know, unless
[Speaker 0]you're, you know, doing some high quality thing
[Speaker 0]that costs lots of money. And then, you
[Speaker 0]know, you might get lots of money, but
[Speaker 0]there's not anything that, you know, not anything
[Speaker 0]in that business that is easy, cheap, free,
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[Speaker 0]or simple. You know? Podcasting, like I said,
[Speaker 0]anybody can do it, and anybody can listen
[Speaker 0]to it. Also, you have global reach with
[Speaker 0]podcasts. You know, my podcast doesn't stop at
[Speaker 0]the US border. My podcast goes worldwide with
[Speaker 0]the exception of a couple places, but, you
[Speaker 0]know, a podcast we created right here in
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[Speaker 0]Traverse City can be listened to in Iceland,
[Speaker 0]Japan, Germany, truck cab in Ohio, a Cessna
[Speaker 0]one seventy two over Wisconsin. It can just
[Speaker 0]be anywhere. You know, somebody on a John
[Speaker 0]Deere tractor out in Iowa. It's just could
[Speaker 0]could be anywhere. You know, chances are my
[Speaker 0]show is kinda local, but, you know, you
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[Speaker 0]get the global reach, and it feels very
[Speaker 0]local. You know, I listen to a couple
[Speaker 0]of shows that, talk about Las Vegas. And
[Speaker 0]I almost feel like I'm a local sometimes
[Speaker 0]because, you know, I know some of these
[Speaker 0]places. And, you know, here I am in
[Speaker 0]Traverse City, and and I know what they're
[Speaker 0]talking about when they're talking about some restaurant
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[Speaker 0]space in Aria. Yeah. I've been there. Or
[Speaker 0]I I can go there. I know about
[Speaker 0]it. You know? You know, you can also
[Speaker 0]do, long form content that you can't do
[Speaker 0]on radio or broadcast or even streaming. You
[Speaker 0]know? I if I wanted to go three
[Speaker 0]hours talking, I could go three hours, and
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[Speaker 0]you as a listener could listen to all
[Speaker 0]three hours, or you could listen to ten
[Speaker 0]minutes here, ten minutes there, and consume the
[Speaker 0]whole thing eventually or decide it's not for
[Speaker 0]you and and leave. You know? That's the
[Speaker 0]beauty of, you know, podcasting. You know? I
[Speaker 0]don't know. It just, I don't know. I
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[Speaker 0]love it. I you know, I'm I've I'm
[Speaker 0]falling back in love with it, I I
[Speaker 0]guess, is the right way to put it.
[Speaker 0]And, hence, you know, I've got a a
[Speaker 0]little project coming, which you'll find out about
[Speaker 0]tomorrow if you haven't already got the clue.
[Speaker 0]But, anyway, we'll see how that goes. You
[Speaker 0]know, and it can still have a lot
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[Speaker 0]of huge growth. Now, you know, everybody's talking
[Speaker 0]about video podcasting and big platforms and all
[Speaker 0]that. You know what? You can get a
[Speaker 0]simple little podcast app over at new podcast
[Speaker 0]apps dot com in one of the podcasting
[Speaker 0]two point o apps. Subscribe to any RSS
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[Speaker 0]feed you want. And most podcasters that know
[Speaker 0]what they're doing have their RSS feed easily
[Speaker 0]accessible, and, you know, they can you you
[Speaker 0]can just copy paste that in there and
[Speaker 0]subscribe whether or not and subscribe doesn't mean
[Speaker 0]pay money. Follow is the new word they're
[Speaker 0]trying to use, but I guess it doesn't
[Speaker 0]really matter what they call it. But, you
[Speaker 0]know, you put that in your podcast app,
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[Speaker 0]whatever that app is. And whenever a new
[Speaker 0]episode comes, it pulls it down, puts it
[Speaker 0]on your phone or your computer or whatever.
[Speaker 0]You know, when podcasting first started, you had
[Speaker 0]to do it on a computer, and then
[Speaker 0]you synced it with your m p three
[Speaker 0]player. Now it's so much easier. You got
[Speaker 0]a phone. Most people have a smartphone, and
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[Speaker 0]even some of the dumb phones have a
[Speaker 0]podcast app on it. And, you know, it
[Speaker 0]automatically shows up on your phone. Whenever you
[Speaker 0]wanna list, You just bring up the app
[Speaker 0]and say, hey. I wanna listen to that.
[Speaker 0]You hit play, put your earbuds in, stick
[Speaker 0]it in your pocket, or link it to
[Speaker 0]your Bluetooth in your car or however you
[Speaker 0]choose to listen. And you can do that.
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[Speaker 0]But, you know, it it's definitely something that
[Speaker 0]is free for both the listeners and the
[Speaker 0]podcasters. Free as in freedom, not, free as
[Speaker 0]in free of cost. I I mean, you
[Speaker 0]guys still gotta pay for your phone plan
[Speaker 0]or your Internet connection or the device itself
[Speaker 0]and your earbuds and, you know, all that
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[Speaker 0]as a listener. And as a podcaster, you
[Speaker 0]know, I've got a pretty elaborate setup here,
[Speaker 0]but you don't need this much, gear to
[Speaker 0]make it work. But you can have, you
[Speaker 0]know, little podcasts about whatever, you know, little
[Speaker 0]passions and, you know, I I don't expect
[Speaker 0]to set the world on fire with this
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[Speaker 0]show. You know, I got, you know, got
[Speaker 0]a core group of listeners that I hear
[Speaker 0]from. I've got, you know, a fair number
[Speaker 0]of other listeners that I never hear from.
[Speaker 0]And I can tell that from my statistics,
[Speaker 0]and they're all over the world. You know?
[Speaker 0]I I had a listener in Antarctica, part
[Speaker 0]of the year, you know, when, they were
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[Speaker 0]down in, in Antarctica. And I actually reached
[Speaker 0]out to them, you know, said, hey. You
[Speaker 0]know? And I didn't know who they were,
[Speaker 0]but, I never did hear back. But, anyway
[Speaker 0]but you could have a podcast about anything,
[Speaker 0]or you can find a podcast about anything.
[Speaker 0]I mean, you go into any of these
[Speaker 0]podcast apps and you search for a subject,
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[Speaker 0]and you're more than likely gonna find more
[Speaker 0]than one on that subject. Certain subjects have
[Speaker 0]a lot more. You know, there's a lot
[Speaker 0]of comedy, a lot of true crime, a
[Speaker 0]lot of religion, a lot of politics. There's
[Speaker 0]there's all the stuff that you can get
[Speaker 0]in podcast that you're not gonna get anywhere
[Speaker 0]else. And and the other thing, you know,
[Speaker 0]podcasters that I know, you know, they're worried
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[Speaker 0]about competition. You're not competing with other podcasters.
[Speaker 0]If, you know, if I'm interested in flying,
[Speaker 0]I subscribe to many podcasts about flying. You
[Speaker 0]know? There there's some that I favor more
[Speaker 0]than others. But, again, you know, I subscribe
[Speaker 0]to those, and I usually listen to most
[Speaker 0]of them that I subscribe to. You know?
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[Speaker 0]You look at my phone, it's ridiculous. I've
[Speaker 0]got, you know, just all kinds of podcasts
[Speaker 0]on there, and I'm, you know, I'm an
[Speaker 0]avid listener. I don't have as much time
[Speaker 0]to listen as I would like, but, you
[Speaker 0]know, going into this winter season, I'm gonna
[Speaker 0]be spending a lot of time on the
[Speaker 0]tractor, and and I got my, Bose noise
[Speaker 0]canceling headphones that I wear and, you know,
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[Speaker 0]when I'm on the tractor. And and I
[Speaker 0]that's what I'm listening to. I'm listening to
[Speaker 0]podcasts. I got a playlist, and it just
[Speaker 0]blah blah blah blah blah. You know? And
[Speaker 0]and, you know, and and it's an intimate
[Speaker 0]experience. Again, you know, if you're listening to
[Speaker 0]me on earbuds, I'm right in your head.
[Speaker 0]You look out. You know, you don't get
[Speaker 0]that with, you know, listening to the radio
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[Speaker 0]sitting over on the workbench while you're doing
[Speaker 0]something in, you know, it's right there. Or
[Speaker 0]if you wanna listen to it on the
[Speaker 0]big, you know, speaker in the in the
[Speaker 0]workbench in the garage, that's, you know, again,
[Speaker 0]your choice. Well, you know, where you don't
[Speaker 0]get the choice of that. You know, when
[Speaker 0]you're watching TV, you gotta stare at the
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[Speaker 0]TV, and you gotta watch all the stupid
[Speaker 0]commercials. I I don't watch a lot of
[Speaker 0]local TV or any TV, really, a normal
[Speaker 0]TV because I can't stand the commercials. I
[Speaker 0]you know, now some of them are kind
[Speaker 0]of funny and, you know, I do watch
[Speaker 0]a little bit of the local news from
[Speaker 0]time to time, you know, that kind of
[Speaker 0]thing. But, you know, the commercial load on
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[Speaker 0]TV is just insane. And, you know, and
[Speaker 0]some podcasts. You know, there are a lot
[Speaker 0]of podcasts out there that overdo the the
[Speaker 0]ads and stuff. YouTube too. You know, if
[Speaker 0]you're not paying YouTube for a premium subscription,
[Speaker 0]you're gonna get all kinds of commercials. And
[Speaker 0]even if you pay for the YouTube premium,
[Speaker 0]you know, they have, host read endorsements. And,
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[Speaker 0]you know, that's fine. You know, the YouTubers
[Speaker 0]need to make some money, and and that's
[Speaker 0]that's okay. But you as a listener of
[Speaker 0]a podcast can choose, you know, hey. This
[Speaker 0]has got too many commercials in it. I'm
[Speaker 0]not gonna listen. You know? But most of
[Speaker 0]the time, the the podcasters, you know, they
[Speaker 0]have a little commercial here or there, maybe
[Speaker 0]a pre roll or a post roll, something
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[Speaker 0]like that that, isn't true too intrusive. You
[Speaker 0]watch YouTube without having premium. They cut right
[Speaker 0]in the middle of somebody's sentence. It's just
[Speaker 0]ridiculous. You know, and same same thing with
[Speaker 0]radio. You listen to talk radio. You get
[Speaker 0]ten minutes of the program and four minutes
[Speaker 0]of commercials or something similar to that. I
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[Speaker 0]don't know. I haven't listened to it enough
[Speaker 0]lately. Since Rush Limbaugh died, I haven't really
[Speaker 0]listened to a lot of talk radio. I
[Speaker 0]do listen to Ron Jolly in the morning.
[Speaker 0]He's on our local WTCM. I listen to
[Speaker 0]him periodically in the morning, and and, you
[Speaker 0]know, there there there's quite a bit of
[Speaker 0]commercials, but that's alright. It's, you know, good
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[Speaker 0]information. So, you know, you choose what you
[Speaker 0]wanna put up with. So, anyway, I'm just
[Speaker 0]you know, I wanted to do an episode
[Speaker 0]here for National Podcast Posting Month, Naypod Pomo.
[Speaker 0]Go check it out over at naypod pomo
[Speaker 0]dot o r g, I think. Is it
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[Speaker 0]okay. Is that an org or a com?
[Speaker 0]I think it's an org. Naypod pomo dot
[Speaker 0]org. Yes. I am correct. Oh, maybe not.
[Speaker 0]Hang on. Nay pod pomo dot org? Oh,
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[Speaker 0]maybe they got a problem. Oh, don't go
[Speaker 0]there now. Nope. Account has been suspended. Uh-oh.
[Speaker 0]I don't know what happened. They're probably really
[Speaker 0]busy this month and ran out of, bandwidth,
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[Speaker 0]but it is napod pomo dot org. Go
[Speaker 0]go look on Facebook. There's a, napod pomo
[Speaker 0]Facebook group that, that is active. So, yeah,
[Speaker 0]that's crazy. It must have just went down.
[Speaker 0]Hopefully, by the time you hear this, because
[Speaker 0]I'm recording it a day early, by the
[Speaker 0]time you hear this, maybe she'll have it
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[Speaker 0]back up and running. It's, Jennifer. I never
[Speaker 0]can mess I I always mess up her
[Speaker 0]name, Navarante or something close to that. Sorry,
[Speaker 0]Jen. Anyway, you know, she listens sometimes. But,
[Speaker 0]yeah. So, you know, in in honor of
[Speaker 0]that, I and, just I'm just happy I
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[Speaker 0]actually made it all the way through. And
[Speaker 0]and this year, I I have to say
[Speaker 0]it was easy because I got my setup
[Speaker 0]here to where, literally, I open up one
[Speaker 0]program, hit a couple of buttons, hit the
[Speaker 0]record button, lean back in my desk chair
[Speaker 0]here, and talk into the microphone. And when
[Speaker 0]I'm done, I save the file. I run
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[Speaker 0]it through a couple of processes, post it
[Speaker 0]on my website. You know? I you know,
[Speaker 0]do a half hour podcast takes me about
[Speaker 0]forty minutes. You know? Well, it depends on
[Speaker 0]how much I prep for it. It because
[Speaker 0]a lot of times I just flip the
[Speaker 0]mic on and start talking as you can
[Speaker 0]tell, but, not always. You know? Sometimes I
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[Speaker 0]do prep a little bit. But, you know,
[Speaker 0]for the most part, it's a, you know,
[Speaker 0]ten minutes on either end and and it's
[Speaker 0]done. It's published. It's out there. The world
[Speaker 0]can get to it, and it's just something
[Speaker 0]that's sort of special. So with that, I'll
[Speaker 0]leave you till tomorrow. And tomorrow, I do
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[Speaker 0]have a bit of an announcement and a
[Speaker 0]few, other little things to tidy up before
[Speaker 0]the end of the month, and I will
[Speaker 0]I think it's time for Mike Delve World.
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[Speaker 0]There it is. And here I am. This
[Speaker 0]is Mike, and you're listening to Mike Dell's
[Speaker 0]World number four thirty five for November twenty
[Speaker 0]ninth twenty twenty five. Happy Saturday. And this
[Speaker 0]is the pen I have a ultimate episode
[Speaker 0]of NAPOD promo twenty five. I have made
[Speaker 0]it twenty nine days. I have no doubt
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[Speaker 0]I will do another one tomorrow. So we
[Speaker 0]will have succeeded in completing the NAPOD promo
[Speaker 0]challenge. Also, I'm growing a mustache for Movember
[Speaker 0]or I guess it's no shave November, but
[Speaker 0]I I decided I didn't wanna go with
[Speaker 0]the beard this month, so I've got what
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[Speaker 0]could be considered a porn stash. I'll I'll
[Speaker 0]throw a picture of it on the post
[Speaker 0]for, tomorrow's episode before I, shave it off.
[Speaker 0]But, yeah, not a not a great look.
[Speaker 0]I I I look like a retired airline
[Speaker 0]pilot. That's what I always say. But, anyway
[Speaker 0]so today, I just wanted to kinda do
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[Speaker 0]a little naval gazing when it comes to
[Speaker 0]podcasting. And, you know, just explain to you
[Speaker 0]why podcasting is so special. And you, as
[Speaker 0]a avid podcast listener and maybe even a
[Speaker 0]podcaster might already know a lot of these
[Speaker 0]things, but, you know, podcasting is very, you
[Speaker 0]know, well, not very, but it's just unique.
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[Speaker 0]You know, there's not no other medium quite
[Speaker 0]like it. And, yeah, I think the main
[Speaker 0]reason that it is the way it is
[Speaker 0]is it's built on an open decentralized technology
[Speaker 0]called RSS. I'm not gonna bore you with
[Speaker 0]all the gritty details of RSS, but podcasting
[Speaker 0]isn't owned by any one company. It's not
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[Speaker 0]owned by Apple. It's not owned by Spotify.
[Speaker 0]It's not owned by YouTube or any of
[Speaker 0]the other myriad ways that you can listen
[Speaker 0]to a podcast. But because of the RSS,
[Speaker 0]anyone can publish, anyone can listen, and anyone
[Speaker 0]can build an app or directory that uses
[Speaker 0]the podcast feeds. This means there's just no
[Speaker 0]gatekeepers approving what gets published. You know, if
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[Speaker 0]I wanna say a curse word, I'm totally
[Speaker 0]able to do that. Now I don't do
[Speaker 0]that as much as I used to on
[Speaker 0]podcast just because, you know, unless it's really,
[Speaker 0]really, you know, gonna add to the content,
[Speaker 0]I I'm not gonna do that. But there's
[Speaker 0]nothing telling me that I can't, and there's
[Speaker 0]nobody telling me I can't. Now you guys
[Speaker 0]may not wanna listen to that stuff, but
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[Speaker 0]that's your choice. That's the freedom of, you
[Speaker 0]know, as a podcast listener, there's, you know,
[Speaker 0]reportedly about four to five million podcast feeds
[Speaker 0]out there. Now active podcast somewhere in the
[Speaker 0]three hundred thousand range and, you know, active
[Speaker 0]defined by, you know, an episode in within
[Speaker 0]the last thirty days, which sometimes this one
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[Speaker 0]has not been active. But I promise you
[Speaker 0]it's gonna be more active because I have
[Speaker 0]relearned my love for podcasting. You know, I
[Speaker 0]work in the podcast industry, and I've always
[Speaker 0]loved the concept, but actually doing one has
[Speaker 0]been, you know, an on and off thing
[Speaker 0]for me. You know, but I love it.
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[Speaker 0]But, again, you know, you can choose to
[Speaker 0]use whatever app you want as a listener.
[Speaker 0]The creators have full control over their content.
[Speaker 0]The technology has gotten such that it's a
[Speaker 0]lot easier to listen to podcasts. It's a
[Speaker 0]lot easier to to, create one. I mean,
[Speaker 0]anybody can, and that's pretty rare today. You
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[Speaker 0]know? It, has another, feature of podcasting is
[Speaker 0]it's a much more intimate medium. You know,
[Speaker 0]a lot of, podcast listeners will say something
[Speaker 0]like, you know, I I really feel like
[Speaker 0]I know the host. And, you know, in
[Speaker 0]my case, I do know a lot of
[Speaker 0]hosts of the podcast that I listen to,
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[Speaker 0]but that's because I can interact with them.
[Speaker 0]They're they're they're people just like me. I'm
[Speaker 0]a person just like you. You know? You
[Speaker 0]can reach out to me anytime you want
[Speaker 0]to, and, chances are I will I will
[Speaker 0]respond. You know? And another thing that you
[Speaker 0]can do with podcast and I'm specifically talking
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[Speaker 0]to talking about audio. Technically, podcasting can also
[Speaker 0]be video, and you can deliver video just
[Speaker 0]like you do audio via RSS. Nothing particularly
[Speaker 0]wrong with that. But if I wanna watch
[Speaker 0]a video, I'm gonna watch it on my
[Speaker 0]big screen on YouTube or Apple Podcasts. You
[Speaker 0]know, if it's a, RSS delivered podcast, you
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[Speaker 0]know, I can watch it on my big
[Speaker 0]screen TV. But I I'm talking mainly for
[Speaker 0]audio. So, you know, you can, you know,
[Speaker 0]you can take your podcast anywhere where you
[Speaker 0]drive, walk the dog, you work, or, even
[Speaker 0]flying. You know? I've been known to listen
[Speaker 0]to podcasts while flying my you know, flying
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[Speaker 0]the airplane myself. You know? Don't don't do
[Speaker 0]it with anybody else in the plane, but,
[Speaker 0]you know, sometimes, you know, you can do
[Speaker 0]that if you want to. Again, not, not
[Speaker 0]necessarily, you know, something that you, you know,
[Speaker 0]you have to pay that much attention to.
[Speaker 0]You know? I I routinely listen to podcasts
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[Speaker 0]while I blow the snow out of the
[Speaker 0]driveway or while I mowing the lawn or
[Speaker 0]or, you know, just washing dishes, whatever. I
[Speaker 0]can listen. I don't have to stare at
[Speaker 0]a screen. You know? It's it's definitely a
[Speaker 0]better medium for me. You know? I was
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[Speaker 0]I was always a fan of talk radio.
[Speaker 0]You know? And I, worked in the print
[Speaker 0]business. A lot of times, I was working
[Speaker 0]night shift, and there's nobody else in the
[Speaker 0]building. And, you know, I'm just running the
[Speaker 0]machine or doing some, you know, doing something
[Speaker 0]on the computer, whatever. But I I don't
[Speaker 0]have to I didn't have to sit and
[Speaker 0]watch anything. I just listened. It was like
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[Speaker 0]radio. It was better than radio. Because with
[Speaker 0]radio, you know, you don't get to pick
[Speaker 0]what comes on next. With podcast listening, you
[Speaker 0]do. I mean, you don't have to sit
[Speaker 0]still to watch the screen. You don't have
[Speaker 0]to scroll. You don't even have to look
[Speaker 0]at it. You just live your life and
[Speaker 0]listen. And it's very accessible. That's the other
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[Speaker 0]thing. You know, you can launch a podcast,
[Speaker 0]and all you need is a microphone, a
[Speaker 0]computer, or even just a phone, some place
[Speaker 0]to host the files in an RSS feed.
[Speaker 0]And, you know, where you host your files
[Speaker 0]usually gives you the means to create an
[Speaker 0]RSS feed. Of course, I work for Blueberry
[Speaker 0]Podcasting, so I would say, hey. You know,
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[Speaker 0]go over to Blueberry. We we we'll get
[Speaker 0]you covered. But you can, you know, you
[Speaker 0]can do it on the cheap. You know,
[Speaker 0]I started this podcast back in two thousand
[Speaker 0]five with a a laptop, which was a
[Speaker 0]pretty luxury item at the time. You know,
[Speaker 0]laptops weren't that, ubiquitous in two thousand five.
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[Speaker 0]Obviously, there was laptops because I had one,
[Speaker 0]and the stupid little stick microphone that came
[Speaker 0]with it. And I was sitting on my
[Speaker 0]front porch in Lake Anne, Michigan, and I
[Speaker 0]recorded the first episode, of the benzoed report.
[Speaker 0]And I'm still looking for that episode, by
[Speaker 0]the way. If anybody runs across that, I
[Speaker 0]would just love to hear how bad it
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[Speaker 0]was. But, you know, if you compare it
[Speaker 0]to YouTube, you gotta deal with all the
[Speaker 0]algorithms over there. You know, you gotta buy
[Speaker 0]all the video gear. And if you're gonna
[Speaker 0]be successful at all at it, you gotta
[Speaker 0]edit a lot and and just you know,
[Speaker 0]it's a lot of work and expense, and
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[Speaker 0]YouTube can just decide one day, I don't
[Speaker 0]like you anymore. Poof. You know? They turn
[Speaker 0]off your channel. You're done. You know? There's
[Speaker 0]no no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
[Speaker 0]You know? YouTube is pretty free, but they
[Speaker 0]have that option. You cannot be canceled as
[Speaker 0]a podcaster. You know? If you wanted to
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[Speaker 0]get into broadcasting, you you know, you gotta
[Speaker 0]either get a job somewhere, and, of course,
[Speaker 0]they're gonna tell you what to say, what
[Speaker 0]not to say, when to say it, how
[Speaker 0]to say it, what music to play, or
[Speaker 0]whatever. You know, some radio stations are more
[Speaker 0]free than others as far as that goes,
[Speaker 0]but, you know, you still gotta deal with
[Speaker 0]all that. Or, you know, if you're gonna
[Speaker 0]buy your own transmitter, I mean, that is
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[Speaker 0]expensive. You know, try to get a a
[Speaker 0]a license for broadcasting. It's not easy. Even
[Speaker 0]the low power FM, which is supposed to
[Speaker 0]be easier. Yeah. They just don't do it.
[Speaker 0]You know? It's it's extremely expensive. You know,
[Speaker 0]in streaming platforms, you know, such as Spotify,
[Speaker 0]YouTube, you know, I would consider them streaming
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[Speaker 0]platform. You get what I mean. Or, you
[Speaker 0]know, even Netflix. You know, you're not gonna
[Speaker 0]get a show on Netflix, you know, unless
[Speaker 0]you're, you know, doing some high quality thing
[Speaker 0]that costs lots of money. And then, you
[Speaker 0]know, you might get lots of money, but
[Speaker 0]there's not anything that, you know, not anything
[Speaker 0]in that business that is easy, cheap, free,
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[Speaker 0]or simple. You know? Podcasting, like I said,
[Speaker 0]anybody can do it, and anybody can listen
[Speaker 0]to it. Also, you have global reach with
[Speaker 0]podcasts. You know, my podcast doesn't stop at
[Speaker 0]the US border. My podcast goes worldwide with
[Speaker 0]the exception of a couple places, but, you
[Speaker 0]know, a podcast we created right here in
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[Speaker 0]Traverse City can be listened to in Iceland,
[Speaker 0]Japan, Germany, truck cab in Ohio, a Cessna
[Speaker 0]one seventy two over Wisconsin. It can just
[Speaker 0]be anywhere. You know, somebody on a John
[Speaker 0]Deere tractor out in Iowa. It's just could
[Speaker 0]could be anywhere. You know, chances are my
[Speaker 0]show is kinda local, but, you know, you
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[Speaker 0]get the global reach, and it feels very
[Speaker 0]local. You know, I listen to a couple
[Speaker 0]of shows that, talk about Las Vegas. And
[Speaker 0]I almost feel like I'm a local sometimes
[Speaker 0]because, you know, I know some of these
[Speaker 0]places. And, you know, here I am in
[Speaker 0]Traverse City, and and I know what they're
[Speaker 0]talking about when they're talking about some restaurant
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[Speaker 0]space in Aria. Yeah. I've been there. Or
[Speaker 0]I I can go there. I know about
[Speaker 0]it. You know? You know, you can also
[Speaker 0]do, long form content that you can't do
[Speaker 0]on radio or broadcast or even streaming. You
[Speaker 0]know? I if I wanted to go three
[Speaker 0]hours talking, I could go three hours, and
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[Speaker 0]you as a listener could listen to all
[Speaker 0]three hours, or you could listen to ten
[Speaker 0]minutes here, ten minutes there, and consume the
[Speaker 0]whole thing eventually or decide it's not for
[Speaker 0]you and and leave. You know? That's the
[Speaker 0]beauty of, you know, podcasting. You know? I
[Speaker 0]don't know. It just, I don't know. I
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[Speaker 0]love it. I you know, I'm I've I'm
[Speaker 0]falling back in love with it, I I
[Speaker 0]guess, is the right way to put it.
[Speaker 0]And, hence, you know, I've got a a
[Speaker 0]little project coming, which you'll find out about
[Speaker 0]tomorrow if you haven't already got the clue.
[Speaker 0]But, anyway, we'll see how that goes. You
[Speaker 0]know, and it can still have a lot
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[Speaker 0]of huge growth. Now, you know, everybody's talking
[Speaker 0]about video podcasting and big platforms and all
[Speaker 0]that. You know what? You can get a
[Speaker 0]simple little podcast app over at new podcast
[Speaker 0]apps dot com in one of the podcasting
[Speaker 0]two point o apps. Subscribe to any RSS
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[Speaker 0]feed you want. And most podcasters that know
[Speaker 0]what they're doing have their RSS feed easily
[Speaker 0]accessible, and, you know, they can you you
[Speaker 0]can just copy paste that in there and
[Speaker 0]subscribe whether or not and subscribe doesn't mean
[Speaker 0]pay money. Follow is the new word they're
[Speaker 0]trying to use, but I guess it doesn't
[Speaker 0]really matter what they call it. But, you
[Speaker 0]know, you put that in your podcast app,
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[Speaker 0]whatever that app is. And whenever a new
[Speaker 0]episode comes, it pulls it down, puts it
[Speaker 0]on your phone or your computer or whatever.
[Speaker 0]You know, when podcasting first started, you had
[Speaker 0]to do it on a computer, and then
[Speaker 0]you synced it with your m p three
[Speaker 0]player. Now it's so much easier. You got
[Speaker 0]a phone. Most people have a smartphone, and
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[Speaker 0]even some of the dumb phones have a
[Speaker 0]podcast app on it. And, you know, it
[Speaker 0]automatically shows up on your phone. Whenever you
[Speaker 0]wanna list, You just bring up the app
[Speaker 0]and say, hey. I wanna listen to that.
[Speaker 0]You hit play, put your earbuds in, stick
[Speaker 0]it in your pocket, or link it to
[Speaker 0]your Bluetooth in your car or however you
[Speaker 0]choose to listen. And you can do that.
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[Speaker 0]But, you know, it it's definitely something that
[Speaker 0]is free for both the listeners and the
[Speaker 0]podcasters. Free as in freedom, not, free as
[Speaker 0]in free of cost. I I mean, you
[Speaker 0]guys still gotta pay for your phone plan
[Speaker 0]or your Internet connection or the device itself
[Speaker 0]and your earbuds and, you know, all that
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[Speaker 0]as a listener. And as a podcaster, you
[Speaker 0]know, I've got a pretty elaborate setup here,
[Speaker 0]but you don't need this much, gear to
[Speaker 0]make it work. But you can have, you
[Speaker 0]know, little podcasts about whatever, you know, little
[Speaker 0]passions and, you know, I I don't expect
[Speaker 0]to set the world on fire with this
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[Speaker 0]show. You know, I got, you know, got
[Speaker 0]a core group of listeners that I hear
[Speaker 0]from. I've got, you know, a fair number
[Speaker 0]of other listeners that I never hear from.
[Speaker 0]And I can tell that from my statistics,
[Speaker 0]and they're all over the world. You know?
[Speaker 0]I I had a listener in Antarctica, part
[Speaker 0]of the year, you know, when, they were
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[Speaker 0]down in, in Antarctica. And I actually reached
[Speaker 0]out to them, you know, said, hey. You
[Speaker 0]know? And I didn't know who they were,
[Speaker 0]but, I never did hear back. But, anyway
[Speaker 0]but you could have a podcast about anything,
[Speaker 0]or you can find a podcast about anything.
[Speaker 0]I mean, you go into any of these
[Speaker 0]podcast apps and you search for a subject,
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[Speaker 0]and you're more than likely gonna find more
[Speaker 0]than one on that subject. Certain subjects have
[Speaker 0]a lot more. You know, there's a lot
[Speaker 0]of comedy, a lot of true crime, a
[Speaker 0]lot of religion, a lot of politics. There's
[Speaker 0]there's all the stuff that you can get
[Speaker 0]in podcast that you're not gonna get anywhere
[Speaker 0]else. And and the other thing, you know,
[Speaker 0]podcasters that I know, you know, they're worried
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[Speaker 0]about competition. You're not competing with other podcasters.
[Speaker 0]If, you know, if I'm interested in flying,
[Speaker 0]I subscribe to many podcasts about flying. You
[Speaker 0]know? There there's some that I favor more
[Speaker 0]than others. But, again, you know, I subscribe
[Speaker 0]to those, and I usually listen to most
[Speaker 0]of them that I subscribe to. You know?
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[Speaker 0]You look at my phone, it's ridiculous. I've
[Speaker 0]got, you know, just all kinds of podcasts
[Speaker 0]on there, and I'm, you know, I'm an
[Speaker 0]avid listener. I don't have as much time
[Speaker 0]to listen as I would like, but, you
[Speaker 0]know, going into this winter season, I'm gonna
[Speaker 0]be spending a lot of time on the
[Speaker 0]tractor, and and I got my, Bose noise
[Speaker 0]canceling headphones that I wear and, you know,
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[Speaker 0]when I'm on the tractor. And and I
[Speaker 0]that's what I'm listening to. I'm listening to
[Speaker 0]podcasts. I got a playlist, and it just
[Speaker 0]blah blah blah blah blah. You know? And
[Speaker 0]and, you know, and and it's an intimate
[Speaker 0]experience. Again, you know, if you're listening to
[Speaker 0]me on earbuds, I'm right in your head.
[Speaker 0]You look out. You know, you don't get
[Speaker 0]that with, you know, listening to the radio
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[Speaker 0]sitting over on the workbench while you're doing
[Speaker 0]something in, you know, it's right there. Or
[Speaker 0]if you wanna listen to it on the
[Speaker 0]big, you know, speaker in the in the
[Speaker 0]workbench in the garage, that's, you know, again,
[Speaker 0]your choice. Well, you know, where you don't
[Speaker 0]get the choice of that. You know, when
[Speaker 0]you're watching TV, you gotta stare at the
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[Speaker 0]TV, and you gotta watch all the stupid
[Speaker 0]commercials. I I don't watch a lot of
[Speaker 0]local TV or any TV, really, a normal
[Speaker 0]TV because I can't stand the commercials. I
[Speaker 0]you know, now some of them are kind
[Speaker 0]of funny and, you know, I do watch
[Speaker 0]a little bit of the local news from
[Speaker 0]time to time, you know, that kind of
[Speaker 0]thing. But, you know, the commercial load on
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[Speaker 0]TV is just insane. And, you know, and
[Speaker 0]some podcasts. You know, there are a lot
[Speaker 0]of podcasts out there that overdo the the
[Speaker 0]ads and stuff. YouTube too. You know, if
[Speaker 0]you're not paying YouTube for a premium subscription,
[Speaker 0]you're gonna get all kinds of commercials. And
[Speaker 0]even if you pay for the YouTube premium,
[Speaker 0]you know, they have, host read endorsements. And,
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[Speaker 0]you know, that's fine. You know, the YouTubers
[Speaker 0]need to make some money, and and that's
[Speaker 0]that's okay. But you as a listener of
[Speaker 0]a podcast can choose, you know, hey. This
[Speaker 0]has got too many commercials in it. I'm
[Speaker 0]not gonna listen. You know? But most of
[Speaker 0]the time, the the podcasters, you know, they
[Speaker 0]have a little commercial here or there, maybe
[Speaker 0]a pre roll or a post roll, something
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[Speaker 0]like that that, isn't true too intrusive. You
[Speaker 0]watch YouTube without having premium. They cut right
[Speaker 0]in the middle of somebody's sentence. It's just
[Speaker 0]ridiculous. You know, and same same thing with
[Speaker 0]radio. You listen to talk radio. You get
[Speaker 0]ten minutes of the program and four minutes
[Speaker 0]of commercials or something similar to that. I
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[Speaker 0]don't know. I haven't listened to it enough
[Speaker 0]lately. Since Rush Limbaugh died, I haven't really
[Speaker 0]listened to a lot of talk radio. I
[Speaker 0]do listen to Ron Jolly in the morning.
[Speaker 0]He's on our local WTCM. I listen to
[Speaker 0]him periodically in the morning, and and, you
[Speaker 0]know, there there there's quite a bit of
[Speaker 0]commercials, but that's alright. It's, you know, good
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[Speaker 0]information. So, you know, you choose what you
[Speaker 0]wanna put up with. So, anyway, I'm just
[Speaker 0]you know, I wanted to do an episode
[Speaker 0]here for National Podcast Posting Month, Naypod Pomo.
[Speaker 0]Go check it out over at naypod pomo
[Speaker 0]dot o r g, I think. Is it
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[Speaker 0]okay. Is that an org or a com?
[Speaker 0]I think it's an org. Naypod pomo dot
[Speaker 0]org. Yes. I am correct. Oh, maybe not.
[Speaker 0]Hang on. Nay pod pomo dot org? Oh,
(19:08):
[Speaker 0]maybe they got a problem. Oh, don't go
[Speaker 0]there now. Nope. Account has been suspended. Uh-oh.
[Speaker 0]I don't know what happened. They're probably really
[Speaker 0]busy this month and ran out of, bandwidth,
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[Speaker 0]but it is napod pomo dot org. Go
[Speaker 0]go look on Facebook. There's a, napod pomo
[Speaker 0]Facebook group that, that is active. So, yeah,
[Speaker 0]that's crazy. It must have just went down.
[Speaker 0]Hopefully, by the time you hear this, because
[Speaker 0]I'm recording it a day early, by the
[Speaker 0]time you hear this, maybe she'll have it
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[Speaker 0]back up and running. It's, Jennifer. I never
[Speaker 0]can mess I I always mess up her
[Speaker 0]name, Navarante or something close to that. Sorry,
[Speaker 0]Jen. Anyway, you know, she listens sometimes. But,
[Speaker 0]yeah. So, you know, in in honor of
[Speaker 0]that, I and, just I'm just happy I
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[Speaker 0]actually made it all the way through. And
[Speaker 0]and this year, I I have to say
[Speaker 0]it was easy because I got my setup
[Speaker 0]here to where, literally, I open up one
[Speaker 0]program, hit a couple of buttons, hit the
[Speaker 0]record button, lean back in my desk chair
[Speaker 0]here, and talk into the microphone. And when
[Speaker 0]I'm done, I save the file. I run
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[Speaker 0]it through a couple of processes, post it
[Speaker 0]on my website. You know? I you know,
[Speaker 0]do a half hour podcast takes me about
[Speaker 0]forty minutes. You know? Well, it depends on
[Speaker 0]how much I prep for it. It because
[Speaker 0]a lot of times I just flip the
[Speaker 0]mic on and start talking as you can
[Speaker 0]tell, but, not always. You know? Sometimes I
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[Speaker 0]do prep a little bit. But, you know,
[Speaker 0]for the most part, it's a, you know,
[Speaker 0]ten minutes on either end and and it's
[Speaker 0]done. It's published. It's out there. The world
[Speaker 0]can get to it, and it's just something
[Speaker 0]that's sort of special. So with that, I'll
[Speaker 0]leave you till tomorrow. And tomorrow, I do
(21:16):
[Speaker 0]have a bit of an announcement and a
[Speaker 0]few, other little things to tidy up before
[Speaker 0]the end of the month, and I will
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