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June 12, 2025 101 mins

In Part 4 of our deep-dive podcast series with historian Dr. John G. Turner, we explore one of the most debated questions in Latter-day Saint history: Did Joseph Smith actually use the golden plates to translate the Book of Mormon?

We also cover the roles of Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris, Cowdery’s relationship to the Smiths, the use of seer stones and divining rods, and the complex origins of LDS priesthood authority. This episode covers chapter five in John G. Turner’s new book titled Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet, revealing new perspectives on how the Book of Mormon was produced and what was happening behind the scenes.

Topics include:

  • -Joseph’s poverty and early struggles

  • -Martin Harris’ doubts and dedication

  • -Translation methods and spiritual tools

  • -Priesthood revelations and baptisms

  • -Internal conflicts and legacy


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