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July 10, 2025 126 mins

In this episode, we dive into Chapter seven of Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet by John G. Turner. We explore early public criticism of Joseph Smith by figures like Abner Cole, the satirical Book of Pukei, and Luman Walters' possible influence. We also examine Joseph’s efforts to sell the copyright of the Book of Mormon in Canada, what that reveals about his intentions, and the revelation that supposedly authorized it.


We discuss how Joseph’s financial motives, revelations, and treatment of Martin Harris raise important questions, and consider the book's early lack of demand—even as Joseph continued to pivot and adapt. From legal troubles and claims of treasure seeking, to his revisions of the Bible and the rise of anti-Masonry, this episode looks at how Joseph’s evolving theology and personal ambitions shaped early Mormonism.


We also tackle difficult questions around gender and divine authority: Why were no women, including Emma Smith, called as witnesses to the golden plates? What does Emma's role—and her sacrifices—say about the story Joseph told?


This is a wide-ranging and thought-provoking installment that challenges the traditional narrative while offering rich historical context.


Topics Include:

- Abner Cole’s criticisms & Book of Pukei

- Attempt to sell the Book of Mormon copyright in Canada

- Revelations and motives: divine or self-serving?

- Joseph’s treatment of Emma & women’s roles

- Legal issues & treasure seeking

- Bible revisions, anti-Masonry, and theology

- Emma’s loyalty and legacy


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