July 29, 2025 • 28 mins
Glen Rogers traveled the United States killing people while driving a stolen car and using his real identity.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hudson Riverradio dot Com.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Your dad likes us. I'm Linda Zimmerman.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I'm Brian Harrowitz, and this.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Is Murder in the Hudson Valley on Hudson Riverradio dot Com.
Good evening, And if you didn't get enough Casanova Killer
in our last episode, Brian, we have the second Casanova
killer tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right. Yeah, Casanova number one was very quick and
to the point, unlike most of the serial killers we've
talked about, so I'm curious to see how this one
is going to go.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
A little different, but in many ways the same. I
guess they were running out of names so we had,
you know, and there may be other Casanova killers out there.
To be fair, this one was also called the cross
country killer, okay, which Casanova one certainly could have been
(00:56):
because he was killing from Connecticut to California to Flow.
So yeah, I've said it before. The last thing you
want is a serial killer who travels because trying to
especially pre digital computer age, When how are you going
(01:18):
to tie a Minnesota killing to a Texas to Rhode Island.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
You know, even last time we saw leaving what it
amounts to a literal paper trail with all the stolen
credit cards and the stolen cars, and it's still so
difficult to piece that all together.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Right, right, right, So let's go. This one's a little
little more recent. January of nineteen ninety four in Beattyville, Kentucky.
I hope I'm saying that correct. I don't know where
that is exactly. In a cabin is found the body
(01:59):
of Mark Peters, seventy one years old. He's tied to
a chair and very dead. The cabin, well, Mark Peters
was from Hamilton, Ohio, which will come into play, and
the cabin was owned by the Rogers, So Hamilton and Rogers.
(02:23):
So this is a little musical here, right, was Rogers
and Heart or Oscar and Hammerstein?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, they're not all related.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Maybe maybe the Rogers family they would make music by
day and kill by night. Maybe I think I've got
a pulp novel, music by day and murder by night.
All right, Well, now let's get into the the rest
of the killings. We are going to Van Nuyves, California,
(03:03):
September twenty eighth, nineteen ninety five. Sandra Gallagher. She has
reddish hair. At this point, she's married. It's a rocky relationship,
probably getting a divorce, three kids. She was described as sweet, upbeat,
trusting and unfortunately trusting can get you killed. She just
(03:28):
made people smile, they said. One of the things she
would do would buy flowers and just hand a flower
to a random person on the street or wherever to
brighten their day. So really a really nice person. She
goes to mick Red's bar and she's all excited because
(03:50):
it's her lucky day, and maybe not so much. She
won twelve hundred and fifty dollars in a lottery, so
she's all telling everybody about her good luck and she
meets this good looking guy in the bar. They flirted
a bit. She actually kissed him on the cheek. He
(04:14):
was wearing cowboy boots, a fancy buckle. He had long
blonde hair, a beard, a mustache, and by all accounts
i've seen them very piercing blue eyes. And he was charming.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
What a surprise.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Nice guy, really charming. And he says to Sander, you know,
I could use a ride to my apartment. It's really close,
you know, you can be back in a few minutes.
And he was such a nice guy, you know, and
this was her lucky day, so sure, I'll give you
(04:56):
a ride home, so no one sees her until in
a hospital parking lot, a nurse is going in for
her shift that night and she sees a man with
long blonde hair set a truck on fire. There had
(05:19):
been gasoline or some other accelerant used in this truck
goes up in flames. She calls the fire department. They come,
They put out the fire, and inside of the burned
truck is the horribly burned body of Sandra Gallagher, who
(05:41):
is so badly burned they had to use dental records.
It was the only way to figure out who she was.
So they go back to the mcred's bar and ask
about this guy. And we think his name was Glenn,
and we're not sure, but his last name maybe Rogers. Okay,
(06:05):
so remember our first murder. The body was found in
the Rogers cabin there. So before we get too deep
into the murders, why don't we take our first break.
Hudson Riverradio dot Com.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Hudson Riverradio dot Com.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
We are back at the start of another Casanova killer
murder streak. Here again, a supposedly handsome man who is
charming and charms of woman into who's normally very cautious.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, sounds like he was in the Allman Brothers from
the way he was dressing.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Take a look at him, he does look like he
could have been. Yes, number three, Jackson, Mississippi. Now so
we are we have gone from a body in Kentucky
to a body in Van Nuys, California, and now we're
(07:16):
in Jackson, Mississippi. Okay, a tip comes in that someone
saw who they think might be this very distinctive looking
Glenn Rodgers. You'd think he would change his name and
cut his hair, maybe dye's hair. Noop, I'm keeping my
long blonde hair and I'm going by the name Glenn Rogers.
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So police go to this motel and by the time
they get there, he is long gone. But they know
he was there because on November third, nineteen ninety five,
they find the body of Linda Price, thirty four years old.
Again reddish hair. He had a type well, or he
(08:01):
did not like women with red hair. Linda Price had
told her mother she had met her quote dream man. Okay,
that's how charming this was. And within days of meeting
they're living together because he's so charming, he's so nice,
(08:23):
he's my dream man. But then she realized they met
at a state fair and where he was working. She realizes, ah,
you know, he might have a bit of a bad temper.
Maybe this was a mistake. But it was too late
because they found her repeatedly stabbed to death, her body
(08:46):
in the bathtub, and her dreamman was long gone. And
they talked to this woman's Linda Price's mother and she said, yeah,
this guy was His name was Glenn Rogers. So not
trying to conceal his identity at all.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
No, you put that much time into grow in your
hair you want everybody.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Is no, put it up in a bun for a
little put a hat on.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Oh no, no, no, no, that is a bad thing. No,
I'm sorry that the listeners who may choose to, but don't,
please don't.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It is a crime against humanity, the.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Man against something. It is.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It is. So at this point they call in the FEDS,
the FBI, because now we have Mississippi, Kentucky in California, okay,
and they know it's Glenn Rogers. And he's got long
blonde hair, and he's piercing blue eyes, he's big, he's
(09:54):
very very distinctive looking. So the FBI, there is there
is a a man hunt beginning for him. Okay, number four.
Now we're down in Tampa, Florida. Okay, another one of
these serial killers who gets around Tina Marie Cribbs, who
(10:17):
is the mother of two. This is November sixth, now,
nineteen ninety five. Very the other murder was just three
days earlier. Meets a man at a bar, the Showtime Bar.
He's just so charming and he needs a ride. She
was going to be meeting her mother at this bar,
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and he said, don't worry, I live close. You'll be
back in fifteen minutes. Of course, she never came back.
She didn't show up for next for work the next day,
and in room one nineteen in a motel in Apollo
Beach a few days later, her her body is found
(11:02):
in the bathtub. Multiple stab wounds to the chest, buttock's wrist,
probably defensive wounds, fighting for her life, but again multiple
stab wounds, her ring, her watch, and her car are missing.
(11:22):
It was a small white car. A talk about a
crime against humanity. Remember the Ford Festiva.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yep, Wow, that was a that was the job done?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Uh for for a little bit, for a little bit,
for a while, for a few weeks it would run well.
The room was rented to Glenn Rogers. He signed his name.
He you know, no no hiding anything, real name, his
real identification. It's just stunning, how blatant, right, I mean, yeah,
(12:03):
no attempt at concealing anything. All right. So just a
few days later, Andy Sutton, a woman with reddish hair,
mother of four in Bossier City, Louisiana b O. S
(12:23):
s i e R. Bosier City, goes to a bar
and meets this really handsome guy with blonde hair. They
slept together that night and she was found stabbed to
death in her bed, multiple stab wounds in the chest
and back, bruises all around. This murder occurred on November ninth.
(12:49):
So oh, and I should point out they met at
the It'll Do It Will Do lounge, the It'll Do Lounge,
Okay for those who maybe locals. So he committed he
killed women on November three, November sixth, and November ninth.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
That is so he likes threes, it's right.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And he doesn't like redheads apparently. Okay, wow, before I
tell you a little bit of and the room and
he was known to have been the man who used
his real name to go out with her. Why don't
(13:32):
we take our second break before we see what happens here.
This is Hudson River Radio dot com.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
This is Hudson River Radio dot com.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
We are back with another fast and furious serial killer boy.
A lot of times serial killers they kill and it
calms them down for a little. They then they'll start
gearing up for the next one.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
This is just this kill, this one. It's it's yeah,
must be that Casanova mindset. Just hurry up, yep.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So. Glenn Rogers was born in Hamilton, Ohio, where that
Mark Peters was from, on July fifteenth, nineteen sixty two.
He was born. He was expelled from high school at
age sixteen. I don't know exactly what he did, but
(14:33):
generally it has to be something somewhat egregious or repetitive
behavior for an expulsion. Shortly after he was expelled at
age sixteen, he got a fourteen year old girl pregnant,
Deborah Nicks. They ended up getting married. I can't imagine
(14:55):
a sixteen year old and a fourteen year old being married.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Isn't that Romeo and Juliet either? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
This was no Romeo, you know it didn't. They were married.
They ended up having two kids. But in eighty three
she divorced him for physical abuse. What a surprise that
Mark Peters, who is found dead in the family cabin
he had been kind enough to his mother didn't want
(15:27):
him staying in the house anymore. What a surprise. And
so Peters was kind enough to let Rogers stay with
him and ended up, of course, getting murdered. Rogers then
stole his car, valuable guns and antiques and a coin collection.
(15:48):
So again the well, I'm killing you because I want to,
but I might as well profit from it and take
everything that isn't bolted down, all right, So then he
just started traveling around the country killing people because he could.
The FBI ended up putting him on the ten most
(16:12):
Wanted list. That's that's an accomplishment, and not in a
good way, but an accomplishment. There is a huge man
hunt his pape, his picture is being plastered everywhere, so
ninety five everybody's got a color TV. They can see
his blonde hair and his blue eyes and see what
(16:34):
he looks for. It looks like, you know, a lot
of publicity that he has killed at least four women
in six weeks California, Mississippi, Florida and Louisiana. That's again
quite quite the accomplishment. So on November thirteenth, nineteen ninety five,
(16:57):
Glenn visits one of his relatives back in I guess
where they lived in Ohio was near the Kentucky border,
and remarkably doesn't kill her. I guess maybe he actually
liked this relative, but kudos to her. As soon as
he leaves, she calls the police. Okay, on her own nephew,
(17:22):
Kentucky State Police Detective Bob Stevens sees the stolen white
Ford Festiva. He's still that was stolen from his one
of his victims. He's still driving that car. So this
was actually one of the first televised police chases an arrests.
(17:47):
Really Okay, yes, the footage is still available. They have
this big roadblock set up. Somehow there was a little
lane there which he gets through. They're yelling, shoot the tires.
They're shooting at the car. They're shooting the tires. He
still gets through. There's a thirteen mile chase, which how
(18:09):
fast does a Ford Festive ago?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I mean sixty five if you drive it off a cliff. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, So finally Sergeant Joey Barnes tips the car perhaps
and drives it spins it off the road. Can you
explain what it is to tip a car in.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
A pursuit A pit maneuver are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well, they said tipped it, but he hit the car
so it would.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Spin off the road. I mean, ideally I should back up.
I make fun of Festivas. I had a nineteen eighty
one Chavett if you remember the Chavette. So I think
I've earned the right to make fun of other cars.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yes, you paid your dues.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
No, it's you know, different departments have different policies. You know.
The pit maneuver that you may have heard about is
a very specific way to get the front of your
police car under the back of another car to make
it spin out. Honestly, if you're dealing with a felon
of that thing, sometimes you wind up having just to
ram a car to stop.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Ramming the car.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, maybe that's what he did. You know, there may
not have been the level of finesse that you may
have heard about the pit maneuver. Sometimes you just have
to end it right right.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
So he does, and there's footage of them swarming the
car dragging him out. He is not heavy, he's you know,
pretty much fighting. They get him down and they get
him cuffed and up into the and you can see
the arrest if you look up the footage, so he says.
(19:51):
Upon arrest, he immediately tells police, Oh, I didn't just
kill you know five people, I've killed seventy. Well, you
don't know. I mean a lot of these serial killers.
Oh did I say seventy? I meant one hundred. I mean,
you know, they want to be now that it's the
game's over, they want to be the most you know, prolific.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yes, they're.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Exactly And here's a twist. I bet you didn't expect.
He confesses to the killing of Nicole Brown Simpson and
Ronald Goldman in nineteen ninety four at Brentwood, California. O. J. Simpsons.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, why wouldn't Yeah, Kes and.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Everybody that's ridiculous couldn't except during nineteen ninety four. Family
members said, oh yeah, he told us he was working
for Nicole. He was doing some odd jobs for her,
So they did. He was there, He did seem to
know her. I think we all know who did the killing,
(20:58):
but there was always was there two people involved. He
claims that OJ told him to go steal some of
her jewelry, her diamond earrings or something, take wanted that
taken from her. It's probably ninety nine percent bs, but
(21:19):
which hasn't stopped people from writing books and making a
movie about it. But nobody's really taking it seriously. And
I don't know that we should take it seriously. But
you know there's still that if he was there and
he was working for her, if.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I can now, I'm going for that sixteen minutes of fame,
yeahcause I can attach myself to this.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Right right, And then he takes it all back and says, oh,
I was joking. I never killed anyone. Yes, well, two
juries disagreed with that. The FBI decided that the best
evidence available was the Florida case with Cribs, Uh, the
(22:04):
one who they had his her stolen car, they had
his DNA, they had fingerprints. He had left his watch
under the body of Tina Cribbs. That's that's kind of
incriminating lightly, Yeah, how did you how'd your watch get
under her body?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
They've only made one of these cassios and you left.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well, they have a picture of him with that, and
there's the blood and there's his DNA probably on the
watch and the fingerprints, So no, they made a lot
of cassios, but not with his DNA and fingerprints on it.
And he signed in again. You know, they just had
a lot of information and a lot of evidence, and
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he was convicted of first degree murder and he was
in Florida. He was scheduled to die on Valentine's Day,
a fitting thing for the Casanova killer in nineteen ninety nine,
but there was all these appeals and it was delayed,
so just to cover their bases. The California case of
(23:11):
Sandra Gallagher in June twenty second, nineteen ninety nine, he
was convicted of murder there and also sentenced to death, so,
you know, just in case something goes awry. They now
have two death sentences in two different states. But twenty
(23:31):
six years goes by. Not until twenty eleven were his
appeals up, and so he was once again scheduled to
die in twenty twenty five, and on April fifteenth of
twenty twenty five, Governor DeSantis signed the death warrant. On
(23:53):
May fifth, twenty twenty five, he posts another appeal. Suddenly
he claims, oh, but I was sexually abused as a
child and they're like, and you're bringing this up. Why?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I had repressed it until now, until he needed an
excuse not to be executed. It just it's so ironic
that murderers, especially serial killers, will struggle so hard to
stay alive. They will take other people's lives like so
(24:30):
with you know, the blink of an eye. He left
eleven children motherless with his victims that we know of. Yet, Oh,
poor me. I was abused. That's why I had to
start slaughtering women. The Supreme Court rejected his appeal on
May nine. On May fourteenth, and on May fifteenth, Rogers
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had his last meal of pizza, chocolate cake, and soda
well chosen, and at six sixteen pm on May fifteenth,
he died by lethal injection. His last statement was, I
know there's a lot of questions that you need answers
(25:20):
to speaking to the families. I promise in the near
future the questions will be answered, and I hope someday
will bring you closure. What answers?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Okay, well you're the one with the answers.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah. What was he trying to? Oh, if you just
keep me alive a little? Did he write a statement?
I don't know, but yeah, you'll get your answers and
hopefully you'll get closure. And then his last words basically
were I'm ready to go, and that was it for
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the second Casanova killer, another h brutal, heartless rampage.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's it's mind boggling that he used his real identification.
His real name is Yeah, didn't change his appearance.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I mean, even people just going to a motel to,
you know, have an affair. I'm Joe Smith. You know,
I'm Glenn Rogers. Look at my long blonde hair and
blue eyes. Here's my stolen car. I've been driving for
all of this, you know. Uh yeah, I'm on the
FBI's ten most wanted lists. My pictures splashed across television,
(26:37):
across to.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
His aunt at least.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, she did the right thing, Yes she did. And
why he didn't kill her, I don't know. I mean,
could you imagine that poor aunt? Oh, Glenn, so.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Good to see you.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Like a cup of hot cocaine.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Another cup, boy, it's kind of Look, it's five point thirty.
I had to be get into bed.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah right, yeah, look at the time. Yeah, shouldn't you
be taking your stolen car and going into the roadblock.
I'm about to call in. But yeah, just I don't know,
just no, no attempt at concealing.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Well, people aren't right to begin with, or us, we
wouldn't be talking about them.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
That's that is a good point. That is a good point.
So I know you're against capital punishment, but I I
don't know that this guy minded, you know, he obviously
Well let me. I don't want to die. I'll just
keep fighting so I can stay alive every minute of
my miserable existence. I guess it wasn't that miserable because
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he fought hard to not be executed.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
So yeah, wow, So all right, another good one.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, another twisted and so be Yeah, I'm I'm I
am not sorry he is no longer with us.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think he'll be missed.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
No, well, thank you. And if you haven't listened to
the last episode of Casanova Killer number one, listen to
both compare and contrast, and then we'll have a quiz
at the next No we won't, but yeah, it's amazing.
So we will see you all back here on Murder
(28:30):
in the Hudson Valley on Hudson River Radio. If you
don't meet a Casanova Killer, this is Hudson River radio
dot com,
Hudson Riverradio dot Com.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Your dad likes us. I'm Linda Zimmerman.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I'm Brian Harrowitz, and this.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Is Murder in the Hudson Valley on Hudson Riverradio dot Com.
Good evening, And if you didn't get enough Casanova Killer
in our last episode, Brian, we have the second Casanova
killer tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right. Yeah, Casanova number one was very quick and
to the point, unlike most of the serial killers we've
talked about, so I'm curious to see how this one
is going to go.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
A little different, but in many ways the same. I
guess they were running out of names so we had,
you know, and there may be other Casanova killers out there.
To be fair, this one was also called the cross
country killer, okay, which Casanova one certainly could have been
(00:56):
because he was killing from Connecticut to California to Flow.
So yeah, I've said it before. The last thing you
want is a serial killer who travels because trying to
especially pre digital computer age, When how are you going
(01:18):
to tie a Minnesota killing to a Texas to Rhode Island.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
You know, even last time we saw leaving what it
amounts to a literal paper trail with all the stolen
credit cards and the stolen cars, and it's still so
difficult to piece that all together.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Right, right, right, So let's go. This one's a little
little more recent. January of nineteen ninety four in Beattyville, Kentucky.
I hope I'm saying that correct. I don't know where
that is exactly. In a cabin is found the body
(01:59):
of Mark Peters, seventy one years old. He's tied to
a chair and very dead. The cabin, well, Mark Peters
was from Hamilton, Ohio, which will come into play, and
the cabin was owned by the Rogers, So Hamilton and Rogers.
(02:23):
So this is a little musical here, right, was Rogers
and Heart or Oscar and Hammerstein?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, they're not all related.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Maybe maybe the Rogers family they would make music by
day and kill by night. Maybe I think I've got
a pulp novel, music by day and murder by night.
All right, Well, now let's get into the the rest
of the killings. We are going to Van Nuyves, California,
(03:03):
September twenty eighth, nineteen ninety five. Sandra Gallagher. She has
reddish hair. At this point, she's married. It's a rocky relationship,
probably getting a divorce, three kids. She was described as sweet, upbeat,
trusting and unfortunately trusting can get you killed. She just
(03:28):
made people smile, they said. One of the things she
would do would buy flowers and just hand a flower
to a random person on the street or wherever to
brighten their day. So really a really nice person. She
goes to mick Red's bar and she's all excited because
(03:50):
it's her lucky day, and maybe not so much. She
won twelve hundred and fifty dollars in a lottery, so
she's all telling everybody about her good luck and she
meets this good looking guy in the bar. They flirted
a bit. She actually kissed him on the cheek. He
(04:14):
was wearing cowboy boots, a fancy buckle. He had long
blonde hair, a beard, a mustache, and by all accounts
i've seen them very piercing blue eyes. And he was charming.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
What a surprise.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Nice guy, really charming. And he says to Sander, you know,
I could use a ride to my apartment. It's really close,
you know, you can be back in a few minutes.
And he was such a nice guy, you know, and
this was her lucky day, so sure, I'll give you
(04:56):
a ride home, so no one sees her until in
a hospital parking lot, a nurse is going in for
her shift that night and she sees a man with
long blonde hair set a truck on fire. There had
(05:19):
been gasoline or some other accelerant used in this truck
goes up in flames. She calls the fire department. They come,
They put out the fire, and inside of the burned
truck is the horribly burned body of Sandra Gallagher, who
(05:41):
is so badly burned they had to use dental records.
It was the only way to figure out who she was.
So they go back to the mcred's bar and ask
about this guy. And we think his name was Glenn,
and we're not sure, but his last name maybe Rogers. Okay,
(06:05):
so remember our first murder. The body was found in
the Rogers cabin there. So before we get too deep
into the murders, why don't we take our first break.
Hudson Riverradio dot Com.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Hudson Riverradio dot Com.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
We are back at the start of another Casanova killer
murder streak. Here again, a supposedly handsome man who is
charming and charms of woman into who's normally very cautious.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, sounds like he was in the Allman Brothers from
the way he was dressing.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Take a look at him, he does look like he
could have been. Yes, number three, Jackson, Mississippi. Now so
we are we have gone from a body in Kentucky
to a body in Van Nuys, California, and now we're
(07:16):
in Jackson, Mississippi. Okay, a tip comes in that someone
saw who they think might be this very distinctive looking
Glenn Rodgers. You'd think he would change his name and
cut his hair, maybe dye's hair. Noop, I'm keeping my
long blonde hair and I'm going by the name Glenn Rogers.
(07:39):
So police go to this motel and by the time
they get there, he is long gone. But they know
he was there because on November third, nineteen ninety five,
they find the body of Linda Price, thirty four years old.
Again reddish hair. He had a type well, or he
(08:01):
did not like women with red hair. Linda Price had
told her mother she had met her quote dream man. Okay,
that's how charming this was. And within days of meeting
they're living together because he's so charming, he's so nice,
(08:23):
he's my dream man. But then she realized they met
at a state fair and where he was working. She realizes, ah,
you know, he might have a bit of a bad temper.
Maybe this was a mistake. But it was too late
because they found her repeatedly stabbed to death, her body
(08:46):
in the bathtub, and her dreamman was long gone. And
they talked to this woman's Linda Price's mother and she said, yeah,
this guy was His name was Glenn Rogers. So not
trying to conceal his identity at all.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
No, you put that much time into grow in your
hair you want everybody.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Is no, put it up in a bun for a
little put a hat on.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Oh no, no, no, no, that is a bad thing. No,
I'm sorry that the listeners who may choose to, but don't,
please don't.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It is a crime against humanity, the.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Man against something. It is.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It is. So at this point they call in the FEDS,
the FBI, because now we have Mississippi, Kentucky in California, okay,
and they know it's Glenn Rogers. And he's got long
blonde hair, and he's piercing blue eyes, he's big, he's
(09:54):
very very distinctive looking. So the FBI, there is there
is a a man hunt beginning for him. Okay, number four.
Now we're down in Tampa, Florida. Okay, another one of
these serial killers who gets around Tina Marie Cribbs, who
(10:17):
is the mother of two. This is November sixth, now,
nineteen ninety five. Very the other murder was just three
days earlier. Meets a man at a bar, the Showtime Bar.
He's just so charming and he needs a ride. She
was going to be meeting her mother at this bar,
(10:39):
and he said, don't worry, I live close. You'll be
back in fifteen minutes. Of course, she never came back.
She didn't show up for next for work the next day,
and in room one nineteen in a motel in Apollo
Beach a few days later, her her body is found
(11:02):
in the bathtub. Multiple stab wounds to the chest, buttock's wrist,
probably defensive wounds, fighting for her life, but again multiple
stab wounds, her ring, her watch, and her car are missing.
(11:22):
It was a small white car. A talk about a
crime against humanity. Remember the Ford Festiva.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yep, Wow, that was a that was the job done?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Uh for for a little bit, for a little bit,
for a while, for a few weeks it would run well.
The room was rented to Glenn Rogers. He signed his name.
He you know, no no hiding anything, real name, his
real identification. It's just stunning, how blatant, right, I mean, yeah,
(12:03):
no attempt at concealing anything. All right. So just a
few days later, Andy Sutton, a woman with reddish hair,
mother of four in Bossier City, Louisiana b O. S
(12:23):
s i e R. Bosier City, goes to a bar
and meets this really handsome guy with blonde hair. They
slept together that night and she was found stabbed to
death in her bed, multiple stab wounds in the chest
and back, bruises all around. This murder occurred on November ninth.
(12:49):
So oh, and I should point out they met at
the It'll Do It Will Do lounge, the It'll Do Lounge,
Okay for those who maybe locals. So he committed he
killed women on November three, November sixth, and November ninth.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
That is so he likes threes, it's right.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And he doesn't like redheads apparently. Okay, wow, before I
tell you a little bit of and the room and
he was known to have been the man who used
his real name to go out with her. Why don't
(13:32):
we take our second break before we see what happens here.
This is Hudson River Radio dot com.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
This is Hudson River Radio dot com.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
We are back with another fast and furious serial killer boy.
A lot of times serial killers they kill and it
calms them down for a little. They then they'll start
gearing up for the next one.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
This is just this kill, this one. It's it's yeah,
must be that Casanova mindset. Just hurry up, yep.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So. Glenn Rogers was born in Hamilton, Ohio, where that
Mark Peters was from, on July fifteenth, nineteen sixty two.
He was born. He was expelled from high school at
age sixteen. I don't know exactly what he did, but
(14:33):
generally it has to be something somewhat egregious or repetitive
behavior for an expulsion. Shortly after he was expelled at
age sixteen, he got a fourteen year old girl pregnant,
Deborah Nicks. They ended up getting married. I can't imagine
(14:55):
a sixteen year old and a fourteen year old being married.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Isn't that Romeo and Juliet either? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
This was no Romeo, you know it didn't. They were married.
They ended up having two kids. But in eighty three
she divorced him for physical abuse. What a surprise that
Mark Peters, who is found dead in the family cabin
he had been kind enough to his mother didn't want
(15:27):
him staying in the house anymore. What a surprise. And
so Peters was kind enough to let Rogers stay with
him and ended up, of course, getting murdered. Rogers then
stole his car, valuable guns and antiques and a coin collection.
(15:48):
So again the well, I'm killing you because I want to,
but I might as well profit from it and take
everything that isn't bolted down, all right, So then he
just started traveling around the country killing people because he could.
The FBI ended up putting him on the ten most
(16:12):
Wanted list. That's that's an accomplishment, and not in a
good way, but an accomplishment. There is a huge man
hunt his pape, his picture is being plastered everywhere, so
ninety five everybody's got a color TV. They can see
his blonde hair and his blue eyes and see what
(16:34):
he looks for. It looks like, you know, a lot
of publicity that he has killed at least four women
in six weeks California, Mississippi, Florida and Louisiana. That's again
quite quite the accomplishment. So on November thirteenth, nineteen ninety five,
(16:57):
Glenn visits one of his relatives back in I guess
where they lived in Ohio was near the Kentucky border,
and remarkably doesn't kill her. I guess maybe he actually
liked this relative, but kudos to her. As soon as
he leaves, she calls the police. Okay, on her own nephew,
(17:22):
Kentucky State Police Detective Bob Stevens sees the stolen white
Ford Festiva. He's still that was stolen from his one
of his victims. He's still driving that car. So this
was actually one of the first televised police chases an arrests.
(17:47):
Really Okay, yes, the footage is still available. They have
this big roadblock set up. Somehow there was a little
lane there which he gets through. They're yelling, shoot the tires.
They're shooting at the car. They're shooting the tires. He
still gets through. There's a thirteen mile chase, which how
(18:09):
fast does a Ford Festive ago?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I mean sixty five if you drive it off a cliff. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, So finally Sergeant Joey Barnes tips the car perhaps
and drives it spins it off the road. Can you
explain what it is to tip a car in.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
A pursuit A pit maneuver are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well, they said tipped it, but he hit the car
so it would.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Spin off the road. I mean, ideally I should back up.
I make fun of Festivas. I had a nineteen eighty
one Chavett if you remember the Chavette. So I think
I've earned the right to make fun of other cars.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yes, you paid your dues.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
No, it's you know, different departments have different policies. You know.
The pit maneuver that you may have heard about is
a very specific way to get the front of your
police car under the back of another car to make
it spin out. Honestly, if you're dealing with a felon
of that thing, sometimes you wind up having just to
ram a car to stop.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Ramming the car.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, maybe that's what he did. You know, there may
not have been the level of finesse that you may
have heard about the pit maneuver. Sometimes you just have
to end it right right.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
So he does, and there's footage of them swarming the
car dragging him out. He is not heavy, he's you know,
pretty much fighting. They get him down and they get
him cuffed and up into the and you can see
the arrest if you look up the footage, so he says.
(19:51):
Upon arrest, he immediately tells police, Oh, I didn't just
kill you know five people, I've killed seventy. Well, you
don't know. I mean a lot of these serial killers.
Oh did I say seventy? I meant one hundred. I mean,
you know, they want to be now that it's the
game's over, they want to be the most you know, prolific.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yes, they're.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Exactly And here's a twist. I bet you didn't expect.
He confesses to the killing of Nicole Brown Simpson and
Ronald Goldman in nineteen ninety four at Brentwood, California. O. J. Simpsons.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, why wouldn't Yeah, Kes and.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Everybody that's ridiculous couldn't except during nineteen ninety four. Family
members said, oh yeah, he told us he was working
for Nicole. He was doing some odd jobs for her,
So they did. He was there, He did seem to
know her. I think we all know who did the killing,
(20:58):
but there was always was there two people involved. He
claims that OJ told him to go steal some of
her jewelry, her diamond earrings or something, take wanted that
taken from her. It's probably ninety nine percent bs, but
(21:19):
which hasn't stopped people from writing books and making a
movie about it. But nobody's really taking it seriously. And
I don't know that we should take it seriously. But
you know there's still that if he was there and
he was working for her, if.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I can now, I'm going for that sixteen minutes of fame,
yeahcause I can attach myself to this.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Right right, And then he takes it all back and says, oh,
I was joking. I never killed anyone. Yes, well, two
juries disagreed with that. The FBI decided that the best
evidence available was the Florida case with Cribs, Uh, the
(22:04):
one who they had his her stolen car, they had
his DNA, they had fingerprints. He had left his watch
under the body of Tina Cribbs. That's that's kind of
incriminating lightly, Yeah, how did you how'd your watch get
under her body?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
They've only made one of these cassios and you left.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well, they have a picture of him with that, and
there's the blood and there's his DNA probably on the
watch and the fingerprints, So no, they made a lot
of cassios, but not with his DNA and fingerprints on it.
And he signed in again. You know, they just had
a lot of information and a lot of evidence, and
(22:49):
he was convicted of first degree murder and he was
in Florida. He was scheduled to die on Valentine's Day,
a fitting thing for the Casanova killer in nineteen ninety nine,
but there was all these appeals and it was delayed,
so just to cover their bases. The California case of
(23:11):
Sandra Gallagher in June twenty second, nineteen ninety nine, he
was convicted of murder there and also sentenced to death, so,
you know, just in case something goes awry. They now
have two death sentences in two different states. But twenty
(23:31):
six years goes by. Not until twenty eleven were his
appeals up, and so he was once again scheduled to
die in twenty twenty five, and on April fifteenth of
twenty twenty five, Governor DeSantis signed the death warrant. On
(23:53):
May fifth, twenty twenty five, he posts another appeal. Suddenly
he claims, oh, but I was sexually abused as a
child and they're like, and you're bringing this up. Why?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I had repressed it until now, until he needed an
excuse not to be executed. It just it's so ironic
that murderers, especially serial killers, will struggle so hard to
stay alive. They will take other people's lives like so
(24:30):
with you know, the blink of an eye. He left
eleven children motherless with his victims that we know of. Yet, Oh,
poor me. I was abused. That's why I had to
start slaughtering women. The Supreme Court rejected his appeal on
May nine. On May fourteenth, and on May fifteenth, Rogers
(24:57):
had his last meal of pizza, chocolate cake, and soda
well chosen, and at six sixteen pm on May fifteenth,
he died by lethal injection. His last statement was, I
know there's a lot of questions that you need answers
(25:20):
to speaking to the families. I promise in the near
future the questions will be answered, and I hope someday
will bring you closure. What answers?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Okay, well you're the one with the answers.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah. What was he trying to? Oh, if you just
keep me alive a little? Did he write a statement?
I don't know, but yeah, you'll get your answers and
hopefully you'll get closure. And then his last words basically
were I'm ready to go, and that was it for
(25:56):
the second Casanova killer, another h brutal, heartless rampage.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's it's mind boggling that he used his real identification.
His real name is Yeah, didn't change his appearance.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I mean, even people just going to a motel to,
you know, have an affair. I'm Joe Smith. You know,
I'm Glenn Rogers. Look at my long blonde hair and
blue eyes. Here's my stolen car. I've been driving for
all of this, you know. Uh yeah, I'm on the
FBI's ten most wanted lists. My pictures splashed across television,
(26:37):
across to.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
His aunt at least.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, she did the right thing, Yes she did. And
why he didn't kill her, I don't know. I mean,
could you imagine that poor aunt? Oh, Glenn, so.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Good to see you.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Like a cup of hot cocaine.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Another cup, boy, it's kind of Look, it's five point thirty.
I had to be get into bed.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah right, yeah, look at the time. Yeah, shouldn't you
be taking your stolen car and going into the roadblock.
I'm about to call in. But yeah, just I don't know,
just no, no attempt at concealing.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Well, people aren't right to begin with, or us, we
wouldn't be talking about them.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
That's that is a good point. That is a good point.
So I know you're against capital punishment, but I I
don't know that this guy minded, you know, he obviously
Well let me. I don't want to die. I'll just
keep fighting so I can stay alive every minute of
my miserable existence. I guess it wasn't that miserable because
(27:46):
he fought hard to not be executed.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
So yeah, wow, So all right, another good one.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, another twisted and so be Yeah, I'm I'm I
am not sorry he is no longer with us.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think he'll be missed.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
No, well, thank you. And if you haven't listened to
the last episode of Casanova Killer number one, listen to
both compare and contrast, and then we'll have a quiz
at the next No we won't, but yeah, it's amazing.
So we will see you all back here on Murder
(28:30):
in the Hudson Valley on Hudson River Radio. If you
don't meet a Casanova Killer, this is Hudson River radio
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