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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
I'm Linda Zimmerman, I'm Brian Harrowitz, and this.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Is Murder in the Hudson Valley on Hudson Riverradio dot
Com and welcome everyone. We have a short but disturbing
case today and we have a cold case to start.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Are you ready, Brian, Oh, I am so ready. Shortened
to the point huh. Yes, Listen. Murderers nowadays have to
maximize their time as well. It's just like the rest
of us.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
We're all on the clock, all right. And this one
is a the case is a very recent one, but
we have a recent update to a cold case, kind
of a mysterious update, but I wanted to talk about
this one. On November twenty first, nineteen ninety six, in
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the town of Eastchester, New York, which is here in
the Hudson Valley, an insurance agent goes to the home
of seventy nine year old Archie Harris. He is a millionaire.
He is described as being quite can tankerous. I love
that word.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That's a polite way of saying insufferable.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yes, abusive, not a nice person. Ever since his wife
had died a year previously, and he kind of went downhill.
But he went to this home and he sees blood
and so he calls the police and Archie Harris has
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been bludgeoned, beaten whatever. I don't know the difference between
bludgeoned and beaten. These were used interchangeably and stabbed. So
he's dead. The thirty five year old home health aid
Betty Ramcharan or Ramcharan, she has had her throat slit.
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Even the pet dog has been beaten and stabbed. Today
sounds personal.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, that's messed up. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Now Harris was a millionaire, as he loved to tell everyone.
He would boast about how much money he had and
how much large sums of cash he'd keep it home.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So he wasn't a smart millionaire, No, he was just
a cantankerous one.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yes, let me rub it in your face how wealthy
I am, and tell you how much cash I have
in my house. So of course they think possibly burglary
was the motive. Four years go by and finally they
charge Selwyn Days. Now who was he? His mother? Stella
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Days was a home health care worker for Harris until
he started sexually abusing her or trying to, and I
believe she brought a lawsuit and got several thousand dollars
as a result. So Selwyn was not happy. You would
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not be happy if your mother's being abused by this
rich sob. So they thought that was the motive. In fact,
he actually confessed that he went to confront Harris for
abusing his mother. He claimed it was self defense though,
because Harris hit him with a baseball bat. Seventy nine
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year old guy hitting this young.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, yeah, well, age seventy nine isn't what seventy nine
used to be either, right, Well, and back, look at
Mick Jagger's blown everybody away with his three I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Think Archie Harris was Mick Jagger, but I see your point.
But self defense or not. He then hits Harris, back,
kills him, stabs.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Him, right, and then you have gone past self defense
at that point.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And Betty well she was a witness, so he had
to slit her throat the dog. Obviously, the guy's just mean.
So he is tried twice, two hung jurys. Well, third
time's the charm. They try him again. That's overturned for
legal errors. They try him a total of five times
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have you ever heard of five? He was fine convicted,
sentenced to fifty years to life, but then it was
all overturned and he spent sixteen years in jail but
was finally let out. Doesn't mean he wasn't guilty, of course,
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but you know, they're legal mistakes that can be made.
So one of the bizarre theories, somebody said, well Betty
did it. It was a murder suicide, and she did
it for the money. If you're looking to inherit money,
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you don't commit suicide.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, it's hard to spend it that way.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
But that's you know, a lot of stupid things go
in the case. Actually Betty was the beneficiary for his millions,
but because she died as well, the three he had
not one, not two, but three estranged children, but givering
his cantanker nature, I'm not surprised they were estranged, they
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were not in his will, but once she died too,
they got the money. So what is going on with
this case now? Well, just on January twenty fourth, twenty
twenty five, which is very close to when we're recording this,
this caught my eye. Westchester District Attorney Mimi Roca said
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that there is a massive update in the case that
there are two suspects, neither of whom have any connection
with Days. These are two separate suspects that the conviction
Review Unit are now looking closely at. And that's all
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the information. I was kind of peeved a bit. Unless
you have something solid, why make this massive and nounce
you know this right a teaser? Yeah, yeah, I guess,
I guess so was Day's not guilty? He claimed his
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his confession was coerced, and his attorney said, well, his
low IQ they tricked him into it. I don't know.
Now everything's everything's up in the air. And are they
using you know, DNA? Is this one of these genetic
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genealogy cases. I don't know all.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
The other people with him that were helping him where
yeah accomplished or was was he the hired individual and
somebody else is involved? I mean it's yeah, why why
tease the case like that if you're not gonna I know.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
So we are keeping our eyes on this, so maybe
we'll have some hard information, you know, maybe some arrests
will be made. I don't know, but it's a fascinating case.
I mean, I guess we probably could have done a
whole case, maybe we would have needed two of the
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two episodes with five trials, I mean, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Curious on why, you know what, what is it that
threw the case off like that where people couldn't come
to a consensus.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, well they didn't have any physical evidence. I think
they were just pretty much going on his confession and
clearly he did have a motive.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
You know enough you need more for a case like that.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well, I maybe that's why they were too hung jerky.
Maybe that's why it went to.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Trial five times. Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, it's it's a whole mess of a case. But
the bottom line, two people and a dog were murdered,
and maybe the two who did it. You know, I
never heard anything about any large amounts of money missing
from the house. Maybe they didn't even know what kind
of money he had in the house. You know, you
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don't tell anyone you got four hundred grand under a
mattress and it's found. How do you prove that? So
a lot We will be on this. If this Westchester
District Attorney Mimi Roca finally comes out with something, we
will cover it.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah. So interesting.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That is the cold case that was supposedly solved, and
then it wasn't and maybe it will be. So all right,
let's take our first.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Break Hunchinriverradio dot com Hudson Riverradio dot.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Com, and we are back. And yeah, so confusing, confusing case.
A lot going.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
On in that, yeah, and a lot being left out
that you don't know about so exactly. Yeah, I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, so let's move on to the Savage Killer. We
are going to Newburgh Town, we know, right there on
the Hudson River. Yeah, And it is early Sunday morning,
January twenty six, twenty twenty. A woman cab driver brings
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a man and a woman to number seventeen fifty one
Route three hundred in Newburgh. It's in the Chadwick Lake area.
If you're familiar with Route three hundred in Newburgh.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I'm not totally familiar with Newburgh, but I know there's
the town of Newburgh and then the village. Right, So
we're in the town, right, We're in the bigger well.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Route three hundred yeah goes. It doesn't go through the
downtown area, gotcha. But there's some houses very close together there.
In fact, there's two houses. It kind of looks like
they share a parking lot there. So the cabby is
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lets this man and woman off, and I guess she
was instructed to wait for them, but this had to
be a little disconcerting. As she's waiting in the car,
she hears five gunshots in the house. The woman runs
back to the car, gets in and tells the cabby
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go to the police. Before she can take off, the
man jumps back in the car, this time in the
front seat, okay, and says, take me to a house
in Clintondale, New York. Okay, I don't have the mileage,
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but it's not like take me around the block. This
poor woman cab driver, she lets these people off. There's gunshots.
The woman's terrified, wants to go to the police. The
guy gets in the car and directs her somewhere else.
She probably had to think I may not live through
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this day because whatever went on with the gunshots, she's
a primary witness now.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So so the dross guided nobody threatened her with a firearm, right,
she didn't see anything. They just got back in the car.
At this point, as far as we.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Know, I haven't heard that. I didn't see that in
any of the descriptions. He didn't like hold a gun
to her head and say drive.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Okay, he just told her to drive as far as
we know.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Right, gotcha, right, But clearly something went on.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Oh yeah, I'm just thinking, you know, hindsight being twenty twenty,
that I would be getting out of the cab and
running down the street. Yeah, help yourself to the car,
have a nice day.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Possibly, yeah, unless you're afraid you're going to get shot
in the back.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So somehow she played it cool. I don't know how
she did it. She drives to this house in Clinton Dale,
and the man and the woman get out of the car,
but before the woman fully gets out of the car,
she looks at the cabby and mouths the words help me. Okay,
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So Cabby had the presence of mind go straight to
the police and was probably just feeling very lucky to
be alive. All right. So while this is the man's
friend owns this house. I don't know if the man
was wondering why his friend took his jacket off and
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burned it in the fire pit. Okay, hm, not a
good sign. And then he borrowed his friend's car and left. Okay,
there is different surveillance video. You know, there's cameras everywhere.
Nowaday they're able to trace this car driving to the
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Hudson River near Highland, where a nine millimeter pistol and
an extended magazine were thrown into the river. How many
rounds are in an extended magazine.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
For exam animal, I've seen fifty, like a wow, long yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Okay, so there can be an enormous amount. I wasn't
I wasn't sure I had an extended clip for but
I think it was only twenty some odd but that
was a smaller caliber. But anyway, dive teams were able
to recover the magazine on January thirtieth and the pistol
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on the thirty first. Meanwhile, back at the house in Newburgh,
as I said, the neighbor is, you know, you can
probably hear someone close a door in the house next
to you, so clearly they're going to hear shots. And
there wasn't just five shots. There were actually twenty okay wow, oh,
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so it probably was a twent now that I think
it was probably a twenty shot clip because the assailant
shot until he had no ammunition left. So she goes
into the house sees, well, I don't know, it's a
she the neighbor goes into the house, sees it's a nightmare,
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calls nine one one. By eight am, the police are
on their way. They find twenty seven year old Jimmy
Crossantos shot dead, shot in the head, other shot you know, wounds.
Twenty six year old Schatavio Cryssantos, his wife, shot multiple times,
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one of which was in the head. Nine year old
Giovanni Tambino, who was Shatavia's son by another man. He
is also shot dead. A nine year old and this
is just beyond me. The three year old son was
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shot five times, including in the head. He had put
a pillow in front of him to try to protect himself. Elf,
this poor little kid, someone shooting at him. He just
grabs the pillow and somehow five shots, one to the head,
he survived, which I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Then there was a five year old son. He was unhurt,
but it may have been only because the assailant ran
out of bullets. So the neighbor took the five year
old next door, waiting for police to come by. So,
what the hell is going on? Why don't we take
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our first break and get come back. This is Hudson
River Radio dot com. This is Hudson River Radio dot
com and we are back from our second break as listeners.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And I just didn't want you to take an extra
one later.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Right right. See, I'm so into this case, all right?
So what is going This sounds very personal and why
kill the kids?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Anytime it's kids involved, it just I mean, it breaks
your heart, obviously, but it's what's the point. Yeah, you know,
if you're trying to make somebody else suffer by killing
a kid, that's a whole other level of depravity. But
when you're taking everybody out innocent kids, Yep.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I don't know how you point a gun at a
three year old and pull the trigger five times? All right?
So they arrest Khaleik k A l I E K.
I think that's how you pronounce it, Khalik good Ford
go o O d E hyphen Ford good Ford he
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had At the time of the murder. He was out
on bail because he had been charged in twenty sixteen
with having a loaded gun with sixteen extra rounds, one
hundred baggies of heroin, heroin and an ounce of crack cocaine,
So he was out on He had posted thirty thousand
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dollars bond and was awaiting sentencing for this, so probably
should have been in jail awaiting his sentencing. But anyway,
they find texts connecting good Ford and Jimmy Chryssantos, basically
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kind of threatening. He wrote one to Crysantos, I'll give
you one more chance to meet up like a man,
or I'm just going to say effitt And also so
I'm trying to keep s away from my family, but
you just keep effing around. He's not happy with Jimmy
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because apparently he thought Jimmy was having an affair with
his girlfriend. Okay, you got a problem with Jimmy, all right,
right or wrong? You deal with Jimmy. You don't kill
his wife, his kids.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
You know, maybe have a chat with your girlfriend too.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, there's that.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
There's that.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I have not been able to ascertain if there was
any truth to the affair, which even if there was,
does not just justify mass murder. So also, once in jail,
good Ford starts trying to arrange the murder of his
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friend at the house in Clintondale, who is a witness.
Obviously a great friend because now he's going to try
to have him murdered and possible other witnesses.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
He's going to have it's that guy's car too. I'm
sure he didn't get that back.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, probably not so yeah, because people still don't get it.
Your jailhouse phone calls are recorded. So three hundred people
were at the funeral. They had to have a go
fund Me page. You can imagine a family, you know,
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they're doing okay, but suddenly there's three funerals to pay
for and two little kids. You know, the medical bills,
trying to help the three year old survive and the
five year old now he's he's an orphan. Just just remarkable.
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So they did have a go fund Me page to
try to help for that, and the aunt tried to
you know, she made a plea to the community. You know,
these two boys are going to need help along the way.
So yeah, what what a way to try to grow up.
So the trial was delayed because of COVID. I mean
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just about everything was put on hold a couple of years.
Then there were a lot of mental competency evaluations, you know, delays, delays,
So the trial did not start until January tenth, twenty
twenty five, so quite quite a long delay. And there
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is video online. As good Ford's being led into the courthouse,
they asked how he felt, and he's like, I feel optimistic.
I'm about to prove myself innocent. Okay, then let's see
good luck. Yes, Prosecutor Richard Moran said, the motive was jealousy.
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We have witnesses bringing him to the crime scene, you know,
the man in Clinton, the friend in Clintondale afterwards, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
The cab driver.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
They had texts, they had phone calls, they had video surveillance.
All right, this is a pretty decent case, but we
know how these things can possibly goe. The defense attorney
Orn Fullerton said his client, Well, he is an imperfect person.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
True, you think fair enough?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Okay, yeah, but he's not guilty of murder. It was
self defense. Well that's interesting, except all twenty rounds came
from good Four's gun, so it's kind of hard to
and and was it self defense for the three year old?
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What was was the three year old, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Attacking you? Did they have either of the two kids testify?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yes? They did, Okay, the I I don't know whether
it was the three year old or five year old,
who then would have been an eight year old and
a fourteen year old. It just said one of the children,
and they knew they knew Khalique good forward because on
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the witness stand the one of the boys said, yeah,
it was him. So he was obviously trying to eliminate
witnesses about why he didn't shoot. Well, I maybe he
didn't shoot the cab driver because he had he had
no more ammunition. So so the defense attorney also brings up, Oh,
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and one thing, I'm going to ask that cop cab driver,
how come she only heard five shots? Okay, only heard
colleague shooting five times at the family, didn't hear twenty.
I don't know if that's really a sign of innocence
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because you only heard any.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, well, I get trying to look for you know,
trying to break apart evidence, trying to you know, find
inconsistencies and all that. But when you're talking about stuff
like that, especially when you're not expecting it and you know,
it echoes all over the place, and I'm sure it
was just rapid succession, and that's that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah. I I thought that was, well, you know, there's
grasping its straws and then there's there's this. And he
also said there was no DNA in the house or
in the cab, okay, but the cab driver and probably
the girlfriend. I don't know if I didn't see that.
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The girlfriend testified, but you have an eyewitness who drove
him to the house and then drove him to Clintondale
in the front seat, and you know, so, okay, you
don't have DNA, but I'll take an eyewitness in your
front seat for all that time. So anyway, we did
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have the child testify, and they did bring up the
recordings that in jail he tried intimidating witness witnesses and
to arrange the murder of at least one of the witnesses. Okay,
that's never good for the jury to hear. And then
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they said some people were saying, if you just saw
one of those brutal crime scene photos, apparently you can
imagine multiple gunshot wounds and adults and children, all of
them shot in the head as well. Wow, that makes
an impression on a jury. So the case goes to
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the jury, who deliberates for all of ninety minutes. I
don't know what took them so long. Maybe they needed
a coffee break and something to eat, because they came
back with guilty verdicts guilty on three counts of murder,
two counts of attempted murder, criminal possession of a weapon,
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and tampering with physical evidence. He will be sentenced March eighteenth.
So depending on when this airs, it may or may
not have happened, but when it does, we will update.
In a future he faces life without parole, which, if
anybody deserves that. District Attorney David Hoovler did refer to
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this man as just a savage killer, and he said
the viciousness and senseless violence this defendant exhibited in perpetuating
these awful crimes is unparalleled. Words fail to adequately describe
the depravity of this defendant's conduct. But the word guilty,
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as heard repeatedly from the jury today, will likely ensure
this convicted killer will not be free again to commit
acts of violence. I like the way he puts in
likely ensure, because we know in New York State nothing
is final, unfortunately. But yeah, I'm very curious about the
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girlfriend in all this. That information did not seem forthcoming.
Did she give any sort of testimony. Clearly she was
afraid in all this, you know, saying to the cab driver,
help me why he didn't harm her. There's still a
lot of unanswered questions.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Sure, but.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So yeah, a recent Hudson Valley case that just off
the charts for brutality.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah. Yeah, like we were saying, anything with kids, it's
just it boggles the mind. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
So I'm hoping that the little three year old who
would now be eight, has fully recovered or as best
they can. I don't know who's taking care of the kids,
but wow, what a way to start off life.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
That's true. Yeah, I hope they're okay. All we can
do is wish them luck at this point.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yes, well, yes, so if anybody has any additional information
on the on the girlfriend or anything else, you know,
let us know. And as I said, as of now,
the scheduled sentencing is March eighteenth. We know how those
things can change. So but hopefully I will be able
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to report life without parole.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
This is great. Yeah, definitely, So okay, here we have it,
all right, Well, good job, as always, build up that
rage and then pull the plug and in the show.
That's all right, you want to take us out.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
All right? Well, thank you everyone for joining us, and
we will see you back here on Murder in the
Hudson Valley. If you are not a victim of murder
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