Unhappy New Year

Sometimes New Year's Eve isn't so much fun. We do, however, wish you a Happy New Year!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hudson River Radio dot Com attax write off for Glacier
Entertainment LLC, a potentially successful, multi hundred dollars corporation.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm Linda Zimmerman, I'm Brian Harrowitz, and this.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Is Murder in the Hudson Valley on Hudson River Radio
dot Com. Good evening and potentially happy New Year to
all our listeners. How are you doing, Brian.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm doing well.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I like New Year's That's one of the few holidays
I go out and enjoy. So yeah, it's nice for
everybody listening.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes, unfortunately we have an unhappy New Year story, but
that's what we're all here for. What But first, depending
on when you're listening, I am going to be a
guest on a great podcast called Writers Drinking Whiskey. Have
you ever heard of it?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
No, I can do half of that.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Well, write something and yeah, it's it's on it's going
to be premier December seventeenth. It's on YouTube, so check
it out. And it was a lot of fun. We
just talked about all kinds of you know, writing and
where my strange life has led me and things like that.

(01:24):
Oh wow, And yeah, of course, as I don't drink
I was drink. My choice of drink that day was
an Herbal Tea, which.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Did they give it the doggie bag for the whiskey
you didn't drink because I'll come pick it up.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
No, sorry, I no, yeah, so but it's fun. I
really enjoy one of those things where's you just really
enjoy doing it. So again, that's writers Drinking Whiskey, premiering
December nineteenth. Because I know there's people out there who

(02:02):
off I get some emails once and WHI you know
you ought to write a book.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, yeah, maybe you should. You know, yeah, maybe I should.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Maybe I already yeah, maybe I already have thirty of
them or more.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
It's all because we do forget to mention them on
pretty much every.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Show, every show. But yeah, and in fact, how this
whole podcast got started was because I had written a
book called Hudson Valley Homicide and I was at the
station doing Hotsun River Radio doing Gales show Aaron Arnold yours,

(02:41):
and I mentioned to you, I thought it would be
cool to do one podcast about Hudson Valley homicides. And
how many hundreds later, what.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Was my response to you that night?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Because I remember I was excited you were coming, first
of all, because I had some of your books already
from years ago, never thinking I was ever going to
meet you. And then Gail said, oh she she got
you to coming in. I'm like, awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
So I showed up with my books like a fanboy.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
That was very nice, which she graciously.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Signed for me. And then yeah, you mentioned it. Do
you remember what.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I said, something like it was going to suck me in.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, like Quicksand and quick Sand.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Here we are murder in the Hudson Valley and UFO
headquarters and now you're a prisoner.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
You can't go away.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
That's it. That's it. I keep trying to get away,
and the podcast keeps pulling me back. But all right,
so we have digressed, as we generally do. First thing,
but let's get into this unhappy New Year. We you know,
this is part of our public service to try to

(03:48):
ruin every holiday known to mankind. I believe we already
did a New Year's maybe. Maybe, I know we did Christmas.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yes, We've ruined many other holidays.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yes, but so let's no. I know we did do
a New Year's I remember that it was I think
New York City. But anyway, we are going to Benton Harbor, Michigan,
which I admit I had never heard of in twenty eighteen.
It is New Year's Eve, of course, eleven PM and

(04:20):
a nine to one to one call comes in. A
woman is frantically saying, I need help. My husband. My
husband was shot. I need help. Never a good thing.
Police arrive and on the ground, slumped against his truck
is a young man covered in blood and there's a

(04:41):
woman kneeling next to him, holding him, and she's covered
in blood. Blood is just I've seen the pictures of
the crime scene. A lot of blood. And the victim
had multiple gunshots, in fact, four of them, one in
the head, one in the neck, excuse me, one in

(05:02):
the neck, one in the shoulder, two in the head.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
One delivered execution style the gun as when the man
was down, stood over him and put one right in
his forehead.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
So, which is not as people think it is, believe
it or not. Really, we're going to digress, Yes, because
your skull is pretty thick, because there's something inside of
most people's skulls that should be protected. Granted, a lot
of people have some empty space in there. That's another show.
But yeah, what happens a lot of times is the
round will go through, hit the skull and travel around

(05:40):
and land in the back.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Of the head like a bump.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
So it doesn't necessarily go through now point blank, depending
on the round, I'm going to say it probably went through.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
But yeah, lotus went through because there was quite the
exit wound in the back of it.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, that's a little different. We're not talking Kennedy here,
I'm talking you know, all caliber from a distance. But yeah,
a lot of times it'll actually go.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Through the skin and just wind up hot the back
of the head.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Well, there's a lovely conversation piece for people for New Years.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, I would hope that person sleeps on their side,
otherwise they have this little bump hitting.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Them, bumping the back. Well, I guess you'd have it
removed anyway, not.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Under this healthcare system. But that's another conversation.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
So who was the victim A twenty three year old
Army sergeant Tyrone Hassle the third. He was a wheel
mechanic stationed at Fort Stewart, Georgia at the time, and
the woman was his wife, twenty one year old Camaiya.
She was a truck driver. Together, they had a son

(06:48):
who wasn't quite two years old. They were both on
leave from Fort Stewart for the holidays and they were
staying at Tyrone's father's house. Tyrone hassel junior. So police
ask her, Camaiya, you know what happened? Do you have

(07:09):
any idea? He no, he just brought us something to eat.
We were sitting on the couch and I heard gunshots.
I ran outside and he was laying on the car.
How many gunshots? I don't know. I just heard a lot.
And this is all on tape bodycam footage. You can
actually see see her. She's quite hysterical. You know any

(07:30):
idea how this happened? I'm not sure. So the officer says, look,
this is serious. I don't know his condition, but this
does not look good. Okay, So if you know something,
now is the time. And she just responds, I don't
think he was beefing with anybody, So no problems with anybody, okay.

(07:57):
So at this just before his son has put into
the the ambulance, the father arrives home to find his
son on the gurney and this is heartbreaking, he said,
I could see the whole holes in the front and
the back of his head. I was just hoping some way,

(08:19):
somehow they could save his life. But I knew he
was dead because I was looking into his eyes and
there was no motion. I mean, a father's worst nightmare. Yeah, yeah,
so motive robbery gone wrong. Apparently Benton Harbor isn't the

(08:40):
safest place, a lot of criminal activity. He had a
really nice truck, he wore jewelry. This money could have
been somebody was trying to carjack him or rob him.
But his wallet was still on him and nothing was missing.
So they had to ask could it have been drug related?

(09:03):
And the father said, no way. He said, my son
walked a straight line. His son was into all kinds
of sports, got good grades, went to college, and then
decided to join the army, where he very quickly made
it to sergeant, which they said, you know, the average
soldier does not do it that quickly. So he was talented.

(09:26):
He was skilled. So could it have been mistaken identity?
Apparently there was a half brother, Benny bad Bennie in
with a bad crowd. That's a distinct possibility. Did someone
you know, Yeah, I think it was him. So it

(09:50):
went from an assault to a murder because by the
time they got Tyrone to the hospital, he was pronounced dead.
Chances are he died instantly with the bullet through his brain.
So where do you begin on a case like that? Well,
we will find out when we get back from our

(10:12):
first break. Hudson Riverradio dot com.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Hudson Riverradio dot com.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Welcome back. We have a New Year's Eve gone horribly wrong.
Young twenty three year old, talented, dedicated boy man at
twenty three. Who uh, somebody wanted him dead really bad.
This is sounds a little personal, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
It does, And it's one of those cases where do
you start? You know, Yeah, there's he's not home, so
you would think even if he was having a problem
with somebody, that would have happened in Georgia at the
base or where he spends most of his time, you know. So, right,
if he was the actual target, somebody knew he was visiting,
and if he was mistaken identity, then that's awful.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah yeah wow. So what about Camia and Tyrone. They
had been both deployed to Korea for for quite a while.
They had a son, Tyrone Hassel the fourth, so the
name continues on. Ty's father said that Camaia was just

(11:42):
part of the family, you know. He loved her like
a daughter. They he didn't see, you know, of course
they're mostly stationed. They were in Korea, then they were
stationed in Fort Stewart. But for the time that he
saw them, he didn't see any problem. For Stuart had
I had to look this up. I was not familiar

(12:03):
with it. In Georgia has fifteen thousand active duty military personnel,
thousands of family members, thousands of support staff. It sounds
like it's a small city. It does, as some of
these army bases are, so a lot of people who

(12:24):
knows what, as you said, what was going on, you know,
back at the at the base, so they canvassed the neighborhood,
do dozens of interviews. There was one neighbor, Walter Nost,
who said there was a suspicious looking black car that
had been parked on the street for a couple of nons.

(12:46):
Didn't recognize the car, and it was there on the
street the night of the murder. They look hard into
bad Benny and his bad crowd, and apparently he had
an alibi. Nothing They could nothing obvious as to somebody

(13:07):
gunning for Benny and getting tyrone by accident. So a
couple of days are passing. They really don't have any
leads until they get an anonymous tip from a woman
whose son was in the army with Tyrone and Camaya.

(13:29):
She said, look at the other soldiers that were stationed
with them in Korea. My son told me Camaya was
having an affair with another soldier, Tyrone, and the other
Tyrone found out about it. They had a confrontation and

(13:49):
the other man threatened Tyrone. I think we found motive here.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
I think we did.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, only Camaia kind of failed to mentioned the whole
affair part. She just had no idea who would have
wanted to hurt her beloved husband. Okay, and this woman
you can again, you can hear her. They recorded this call.

(14:18):
She says. The funeral is tomorrow. You should look at
the wife that, as a law enforcement officer, will catch
your attention. Yes, yes, So investigators go to Fort Stewart
and one soldier confirms that Kamaia was having an affair

(14:39):
with another soldier and that Tyrone did know about it.
This other soldier's name was Jeremy Quaar, who drove a
black Impala, perhaps the mystery black car on the street
he was also a truck driver. He had also been

(15:00):
stationed in Korea, and he told one of one of
his friends there on the base, Kamaia is my girl,
and Jeremy has to go rather. You know, if you're
going to plan a homicide, maybe not tell people about it. Yeah,

(15:22):
maybe that's just me. I don't know, not that I'm
planning a homicide.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
I'm just well, if you were, you wouldn't be telling us,
would you.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
No, I would not. I would not. Then they speak
to another soldier who said, two weeks before the murder,
he sold Quaar two handguns, one of which was a
glock pistol of the same caliber used in the murder.
I think the noose is tightening hard and fast here

(15:53):
sounds like it. So enough to arrest Jeremy Quaar.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yes, So on January? Were he twelfth already? So they
worked fast. You know, the murder was New Year's Eve?
So on the twelfth he is arrested and he clams up.
He won't talk to investigators, which we have seen in
the past. Works.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yes, yeah, Well, was Jeremy in Michigan at this time
or did they have to track him down somewhere else?

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Oh? I don't know where he was when they arrested him,
but that's one of the things. They tracked his cell
phone usage and what else ever to Benton Harbor, Michigan. Okay, yeah,
all right, yes, so he was there the night of

(16:46):
he was if he was, well, we'll find out. Well,
we'll get to all that, okay, okay. So he also
had told another soldier, I did what I had to do.
I took care of it. He happened to know the
gun that was used, the number of shots that were fired,

(17:07):
that the murder took place in Tyrone's driveway, and also
added I stood over him and put one more round
in his forehead just to be sure. That's you know,
why don't you go stand on the scaffold and put
the noose around your neck right bragging about it? Wow, Well,

(17:33):
Camaiya is still all innocent, you know. No, there's no
problem between Tyrone and no mention of the affair. So
I think they needed to get her back for questioning
because maybe she didn't know what was going to happen,
maybe she planned it. We shall see.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
You already know she was hiding sums, so I'm sure
she's hiding more.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yep. So State Police investigator Andrew Lungusky tells her, brings
her in, tells her Jeremy's singing like a bird, okay,
which was not true, but that's okay. You can lie
to a suspect, correct up to a point. Yes, yes, yes,

(18:26):
so hey why not? So all of a sudden, she says, yes,
I was having an affair and it was in Korea
where it all started. But like we weren't sexual or anything,
but we were really close, and Lungusky says, but are
you now well, yes, but it's more than just sexual.

(18:51):
He listened to me things were so bad with Tie,
but I knew nothing about the murder. Okay, we shall see.
One of the other things lung Gusky was good at
was polygraph, which of course is not admissible in court.

(19:12):
It's good to if the person being bessed, but if
someone fails it, yeah yeah, yeah. So she agrees to
the polygraph, and apparently did quite poorly. So Lungusky tells her, clearly,
there are signs of deception. You know, we know you're lying,

(19:35):
and uh. He tries to be sympathetic. He says, you
didn't pull the trigger, but if you know anything, you
owe it to your son. To come clean. Jeremy talked
you into this, right, so maybe you can get her
to confess all right. Jeremy told me he was gonna

(19:56):
do it. I tried to stop him. No, she suddenly says,
in Korea, I told Jeremy I didn't want to be
with ty anymore, that she wanted to be with him, okay,
egging him on, and Jeremy told her I can handle it,

(20:20):
and she says, oh, whatever do you mean And he's,
you know, still playing innocent. What could he mean by that?
And he says, I can get a gun all right.
So they planned this all the way back in Korea.
So a few nights before the murder, Jeremy drove to

(20:41):
Benton Harbor from Chicago. I assume he was also on
leave and at home in Chicago. He stalked Tyrone to
some different locations, but there was always people around. He
couldn't get him alone. So on New Year's Eve, I
don't know why people don't think texts can be traced,

(21:03):
Camia text Jeremy to tell him where Tyrone was and
that he was coming back to the house to bring
him bring them food. She set him up. Wow, yes,
with that, let's take our second break.

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Speaker 3 (21:37):
So what do you think Brian from innocent who could
have done this to He's going to be standing in
our driveway in ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
You know, people have this conspiracy theory that the government
wants to implant you with chips to track you, and
you know, all the top secret hardware that's following you
around it to people have phones on them. Nobody needs
to do anything secret. We are all carrying phones that

(22:08):
track everything we do.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
We are a product.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
So all your text messages, every place you go, all
the stuff you like, it's known all that data is
being collected about you.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, and yet people still plan murders and on their selves.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
And they still text him like it's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
So that was Jeremy in the black car, sitting on
the street waiting and he gets the text from Camaiya.
He's on his way home. This is where you can
kill him. Wow, So so much for the innocent Camiya.
So she admits this is on. They recorded this on

(22:56):
video and she also signed a statement. She and Jeremy
were in it together. Claims Tyrone didn't give her enough love,
but also admitted his four hundred thousand dollars life insurance
policy was really appealing. So she did it. She did

(23:18):
it for the money for the most part. And she says,
it's just chilling or watching her talk about this. I
could have called it off, but Jeremy would have been upset,
and I didn't want to get him mad at me.
So murdering your husband, the father of your son was

(23:41):
better than having Jeremy get a little upset. Where people's
minds go is just beyond me. So after this long
videotaped confession, they write it up, she signs it. So
then the police go to Tyrone's father and they say

(24:04):
we've got your son's murderer. And he's like, you know this,
poor father, and he's like, who is it? They say, Camaiya.
He will not believe it. He doesn't want to believe it.
He's like, no, we loved her like a son. We
just spent the last eleven days comforting her because she
was so distraught. You know, she was in our home.

(24:26):
We're comforting her, and she's the one who planned the
whole thing. And the father. I can't blame him, he said.
If he had known at any point during those eleven
days it was her, he would have killed her. And
I think a lot of people would have would have

(24:46):
done the same thing, you know, because I mean so hypocritical.
So you know, you kill this guy's son and then
sit there, get in the house sympathy.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah you're in the house. Yes, wow, all right, all right, wow.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yes, so okay, So well, there are still trials to
be had, and both Camiya and Jeremy are charged with
first degree murder and they're going to try them separately,
and Camia's trial was first in July of twenty nineteen.

(25:30):
Prosecutor Stephen pier Angeli, in his opening statements said the
gun was never in her hand, but her fingerprints are
all over this murder. I thought that was well.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
That's right, And I think a lot of people don't realize.
The saying goes, you don't need to be the one
to pull the trigger to be guilty of murder. You know,
this is a prime example. She's the one who set
it up, she's the one who caused it to happen.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
She is guilty of it.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah, you know, you don't.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
You don't have to be at the scene, you don't
have to be the one with the weapon, you don't
have to be the one that actually goes through the act,
but you're still guilty.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah. Yeah. We've had cases where people say, well, yeah,
I was in on the plot to kill him, but
I didn't pull the trigger, or I wasn't the one
who stabbed him exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
People think that you believe a degree of separation that
you're not responsible, but nope.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Right yeah. Yeah. So to see her at trial, the
way they dressed her and did her hair, she looked
very young, very sympathetic, very innocent. The defense attorney Chris
Kessel uses, where have we heard this? Kemai was also
a victim of this psychopath jerrem may Camaia is innocent.

(26:51):
He made her, you know, he made her do it.
And you're thinking, oh my god, is she is she
going to you know, be this rap? Is he going
to be able to convince a jury that Jeremy was
this horrible man who took advantage of her. Except they
had that taped confession and in her own words in

(27:15):
front of the jury, they play it and she's sitting
there saying, I feel just as guilty as him. Well
guess what, because you are, you are right, and you
better believe. Kessel tried like hell to have that confession
suppressed because oh, the detective manipulated poor Camaya. And plus

(27:42):
that Lunguska Lagusky lied to her about Jeremy talking. Yeah,
we'll put on your big boy pants and get another
defense because that's allowed. Probably some of the most testimony
was when Tyrone's father was on the stand describing the

(28:05):
bullet holes he saw in his son's skull. Boy, this
guy had, uh, he was really I don't want to
say stoic, but he had. He had some scuts to
to get on the stand to talk about that. The

(28:26):
next day they put Lungusky on the stand, and part
of his testimony was showing the forty five minute taped
confession and then showing the signed statement as well, which
I mean, if I'm sitting in a jerry and I'm
seeing this woman detail the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, that's right, pretty convincing, you would hope.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
But again to counter that, Lungusky says, they manipulate again,
manipulated poor Kemaiya. She was coerced into this confession. For
day after day she claimed her innocence and then suddenly
this confession comes out, yes, because she was lying for
the first eleven days and then finally told the truth.

(29:13):
And then they had another very interesting thing on that's recorded.
How many times do these inmates call somebody and blurred
out something?

Speaker 1 (29:28):
You know?

Speaker 3 (29:28):
We had that teacher who calls her mother and says, yeah,
here take the money and go hire the hitman to
get rid of my mother in law. Yeah, because nobody's
listening or recording these calls.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Especially nowadays when it's probably all ai transcribed. I'm guessing
I have no idea, but you don't have privacy when.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
You're in prison.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
No, your phone calls are being They tell you your
phone calls can be monitored. So I guess you're taking
your chance and no one's going to catch it. But
I would imagine nowadays it's being transcribed and recorded, and.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
I'm sure everything is automatically recorded. Four cases like this.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, that's because I should follow up on that. I
don't know for s.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, i'd be very interested to know. But Camaia calls
her mother while she's in jail, and the mother's like,
you know, why are you in jail? And she says,
because I knew what was going on. The mother's like serious, yes, serious,
but I knew you would be disappointed in me. So

(30:37):
the mother goes off because you're twenty one years old
and you done had your husband killed, the father of
your child, and you're talking about I would be disappointed.
You know, that's what you're You just murdered your husband,
the father of your child, and what you're worried about
is that I'm disappointed in you. She really let her

(30:59):
have it. She says, this sounds like a TV show.
Is someone coercing you to say this? Camaia says, no,
they're not. Mommy planned it all, you know, back in Korea.
And the mother says, did you all think you could
get away with that? And Camaia responds responds, we thought

(31:19):
we could. Uh there, you haven't so much for so yeah,
so day three, you know, were you going to take
a hail Mary and put Camaia on the stand. No,
it would just get worse, a lot worse. So once

(31:41):
again closing arguments manipulated coerced bah bah bah bah bah.
But you know, had Camaia just kept her mouth shut
all along? I know in New York you cannot be
convicted just on the testimony of your co conspirator.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Correct, Yeah, they need to sell corroboration.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah right, right, what did they have?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Text messages and you know that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, yeah, I guess yeah, I get to at least pursue, right, right.
So closing arguments ended the third day in the late afternoon,
and by the next morning there was a There was
a verdict. What took them so long? Guilty of first
degree murder premeditated guilty of conspiracy to commit murder. The

(32:35):
verdict came down on July eighteenth, twenty nineteen, and on
August twenty ninth, Camaya received the mandatory sentence of life
without parole at age twenty one with a two year
old son.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Wow, that.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Didn't quite think this through. But we still have Jeremy's trial.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Now.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
You know, they have the testimony that he bought the gun,
he told all those people about the murder. They had
the record of him going to Benton Harbor, you know,
being in the area that night. And even though they
fought this, the judge ruled that Camaya's statement could be
used in court. But again, as we're saying, that would

(33:22):
not have been the sole means of convicting him. So
clearly the writing is on the wall. So he enters
into a plea deal, playing guilty of second degree murder.
But still this seemed to be a moot point because
the sentence was still sixty five to ninety years. He

(33:45):
will not be eligible for parole till age ninety. Probably
not going to happen. But yeah, he did in court
apologize to the family, very remorseful, broke into tears, you know,
as he's sawry he got caught. But then this is

(34:08):
a twist that again, I don't know that I would
have had the wherewithal to do this. Jeremy asks to
have Tyrone's father come and speak to him because he
wanted to tell him everything. So he did. The father
went to jail and sat across that glass looking at

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the murderer of his son, and Jeremy told him it
was all Camaia's plan. She wanted the four hundred thousand
dollars and Jeremy wanted her, and she talked him into it.
She knew exactly what she was doing, and he was
very well spoke. You can watch this. He was very

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well spoken when he was He seemed he seemed sincere.
What has he got to lose now he's essentially in
jail forever. He says, honestly, I was blind. I thought
it was love. I was too stupid to see, and
then this was kind of chilling. He says. I can
tell by the way you look you want me to

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burn in hell. And I understand that. I understand that.
But I hope someday you can forgive me. I don't
know that I could do that.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I couldn't. No, I know, I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah. Yeah, So the one person we don't know what
happens to and it didn't know we haven't spoken about,
is that poor two year old son. Camaiya's mother was
actually given custody of the child, which given the child

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she raised. Ah, I don't know if that's.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
The sounds like, you know, ty Jr.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Should have been first up on that.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
That that seems what it should be to me. But hopefully,
hopefully the Sun is going to have a wonderful upbringing
and get past the murder of his father by his mother. Yeah,
it's to so many lives ruined, affected because this twenty

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one year old wanted another man and four hundred thousand
dollars and was stupid enough to think no one will know. Yeah,
when you're having an affair on an army base in
Korea and then in forts do it with thousands and
thousands of witnesses, essentially, you really think no one's going

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to find out?

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Do you know? Did the military take any action on
top of that?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Not that I know of. I just followed the the
you know, the civil criminal trial, but I believe it
was military investigators who interviewed the soldiers, so they took
an active role in the investigation. But I don't know,
you know what else they they could.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Have, I mean, another conviction on top of on the military.
I'm assuming they got dishonorably discharged pretty pretty quickly, one
I would think, I would think, you know, but yeah,
what's what would be the point of another conviction or
another whole set.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Of Yeah, life without parole in sixty five years.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Minimum, right, seems pointless.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Yeah, so that's our unhappy New Year.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
So okay, well, good job, Yeah, thank you. I like
New Years and now.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I got that.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Now it's partially ruined, yep.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, But that's what we do.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
That's what we do. But I do want to wish
a happy new Year to all of our listeners. Thank
you so much for hanging on with us all these years.
And if you're a new listener, Binge binge your heart.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Away, Welcome year. Sure.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
If you're traveling for the holidays, you're going to have
lots of downtime. If you're sitting in an airport, we
feel so sorry for you. Please don't commit murder while you're.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Waiting, that's right. Just listen to people who have.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yes, it'll it's therapeutic. It'll make you feel better about
your situation.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
All right, So we will see everybody back next year.
And murder in the Hudson Valley. If you're not a
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