The United States of O.D.D. and The Rule of Jenny Pen

What if I told you that America’s real divide isn’t red vs. blue—but rule followers vs. reflexive rebels?

That we’ve mistaken rebellion for personality, and defiance for strength?
In today’s episode, we’re unpacking the rise of oppositional behavior as a dominant cultural force—why being told “no” is the new national trauma, and how it’s reshaping everything from politics to the office break room.

The conversation then shifts to the film 'The Rule of Jenny Pen' which uses horror to explore deeper themes of aging, autonomy--and yes, defiance--in the human condition.

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