August 16, 2023 • 29 mins
Craving a bit of adrenaline rush and a great story to tell? Join me, your host George Scaca, on another thrilling episode of the New York Fishing Podcast. Armed with my fishing line, my partners Rob Pavlich, Lep Leprechaun, and I embarked on a fluke fishing expedition that promises to keep you on the edge of your seat. We share tales of the keepers we caught, the fun we had, and the unexpected lessons learned from fishing with different anglers.
As we revel in our fishing tales, the conversation takes a sobering turn towards the impact of industrialization on our coasts and marine life. Hear about the disheartening loss of 87 bald eagles to a newly approved wind farm in upstate New York and the tragic deaths of our beloved whales along the South Shore, Long Island, and New Jersey. But it's not all gloom; together we can push back to preserve the beauty of our coasts and protect the marine life we hold dear.
In a bid to encourage proactive involvement, I invite everyone to visit NewYorkAnglercom and MyAnglercom. These platforms are treasure troves for anglers, offering countless learning opportunities for both the novices and the experienced. So, folks, whether you'd like to share your latest fishing escapade or you're looking for tips from seasoned anglers, these websites got your back. Don't miss out on this episode filled with exciting fishing tales, insightful environmental discussions, and practical resources for every angler.
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George Scocca (00:01):
Hello everyone, this is George Scocca and you're
listening to the New YorkFishing Podcast brought to you
by theNewYorkAnglercom, orNewYorkAnglercom, your secret
spot online where you can findtons of information about what's
(00:25):
happening in your local fisheryeach and every day.
Today is August 16th.
I did manage to get out and dosome of my favorite fishing,
which is fluke fishing.
Right now I keep a boat up inthe Nesquan.
(00:49):
I fish most at a time in thesound.
Well, in years past, anyhow,the last few years, it's been
tough.
I mean there's fluke, but it'sbeen tough.
You know, you really got toknow what you're doing.
You got to really work hard,and not that I'm not into
working hard, I would rather bein an area where I know I got a
(01:14):
really good shot at catching mybag limit and also catching a
big fish.
I was lucky enough to have mypartner in another company, rob
Pavlich.
Many of you may know him.
He helped run Nor'east andNor'eastcom and Nor'east
(01:35):
Saltwater for many, many years.
We're still together in adifferent company.
He invited me to go out to oneof my favorite spots, which was
introduced to me by LepLeprechaun.
(01:56):
People out of those of you thatknow him, he's probably one of
the best fluke fishermen on allof Long Island, but in any case
I love those grounds.
You know fishing at South ofJones I don't want to choose
which one.
There's a lot of areas aroundthere and I got to tell you it's
(02:20):
really great fluke fishing.
I mean, you know you're deepwater fishing, you're fishing in
60, 70, 80 foot of water andyou've got a shot at a big fish
and there's a good number ofkeepers in there.
I'm not sure I mean it's verymuch in line with Montauk.
(02:42):
You've got a lot better shot ata double digit fish.
You know there's no doubt aboutit because you hear of them
being caught there.
But this area, if you're notfamiliar with it, the flug
fishing there is fantastic.
(03:03):
It's off the charts, it reallyis, and it's been that way for
quite a while.
Hopefully it will stay that way.
So, anyhow.
So we go out, we run out, we gosouth to Jones and we had quite
a day.
I witnessed Rob catch hisbiggest fish so far.
(03:23):
He's got a new boat and this isall new to him and he was good.
He was really good at what he'sdoing and he caught a fish over
five pounds, which was great,and we had a number of fish and
we got back to the dock that wehad to do.
When I got back there, you knowLef was there with those of you
(03:47):
that are familiar with somenames on the website with Kevin,
who is long cast, and they hada bang update, we've seen him
out there.
We were fishing right near him,but you know they kicked our
butt but that's left.
What are you gonna do?
But Rob did a great job and wecaught a lot of fish and I had a
(04:07):
fantastic day.
So then I had a trip that wasplanned again with the folks
from NewYorkAnglercom those ofyou that aren't joining us and
missing out on all this stuffand you know there's no Facebook
BS, it's all just fun, so youknow.
(04:30):
So we I get this invite to goout on a charter with one of my
favorite charter captains,captain Mike Beatty.
You folks may know him.
He's out on a North Fork.
He's just a really good friendof mine.
It's captain's table charters,you know.
(04:52):
I mean we date back to when mybrother was around back in the
Northeast days, but I neverreally fished him.
I didn't know him that well.
So anyhow, it turns out thathe's good friends with Lepp, and
so over the last few years I'vehad the honor and pleasure and
enjoyment of fishing, you know,with Mike, with Captain Mike,
(05:17):
and so I got an invite fromanother New York angler member,
snapperhead.
It's pretty funny, that used tobe my nickname years ago, but
so anyhow.
So he invites me to go on thestrip and you know, it was this
past Monday, it was August 14th,it was my wife's birthday and I
(05:44):
was like the week before it wasAugust 7th and it was my
birthday, and she went andplayed pickleball and did her
thing.
So, you know, I got back toMatt snapperhead and I was like,
you know what?
It's my wife's birthday.
Really don't think I shouldfish that day.
And I'm like, give me a fewminutes, let me think about it.
(06:05):
I'll get back to you in aboutan hour.
So I go, hey, barb, I go.
Well, you know, what do youwant to do on your birthday?
Well, I'm gonna play pickleballand this one's gonna stop by
and the auntie's coming home andI said, oh, okay, good, I'm
gonna fish it.
She's fine with that.
I think she likes when I fishmore than or as much as I like
(06:27):
to fish.
I think she just likes gettingrid of me or maybe she does like
to see me enjoy myself.
So anyhow, we go out.
We got quite a crew.
We've got I don't know if youfolks those of you may know
Nader, who's the chef and he'salso fishing here.
It was my first time fishingwith him and I kicked his butt,
(06:50):
although he will deny that I dida big fish.
I'm not sure I thought wetotaled on the bag but I'm not
sure.
But I know I kicked his buttbut in any case he was a good
guy.
When you fish with differentpeople, flucan, you learn there
(07:11):
are so many different ways tocatch Fluc and many people,
through my very good friend,john Skinner, has introduced
people to this bulk tailing kindof gulp thing.
Not that he introduced the gulpand bulk tailing, but he did
make it very popular To thepoint that people think that's
(07:33):
the only way now that they cancatch fish.
They don't realize there's somany different factors that go
into fluk fishing that there aredays where and this happened to
have been one of those dayswhere they are not biting that
bottom bucktail, that bucktailon.
(07:54):
Some days they just don't do it.
So you know, maybe youshouldn't be using one, or maybe
you should be using a differenttype of a rig, but anyhow.
So let me get back to thefishing.
So we get there, everybody'sgreat.
We get out, we set up and youknow we're catching right away a
(08:16):
couple of shorts, we get akeeper and Kat and Mike says you
know, I got this blue teaserthat.
You know, work always works forme in this particular area.
I'm like give me that suck.
I didn't wait a second.
So I get this blue teaser, Iput it on, I go oh, I know what
(08:38):
I had.
I had a gulp sand eel and I'vehad these freaking things
forever and I gotta tell youthey never produced a thing.
But wow, did they work,combined with this particular
blue teaser.
So I dropped down first drop.
I dropped down, bang.
I hooked up fishes over sixpounds, mike, I'm loving Montauk
(09:03):
.
So the longer, the shorter itwas.
We had a great day.
I had as many you know Ilimited out and if I was in some
kind of a fishing tournamentfor heavy weight, wow, man, I
mean, for those four fish I wasover 15, 18, maybe 20 pounds.
(09:26):
But again, you know, almostevery fish I had was on the
teaser.
So that told me that thebucktail really wasn't working
that well, I switched to a whiteball, which I learned, actually
from let, and they kind ofstarted hitting on those.
(09:47):
But I tell you why, folks, ifyou get a shot to get out there,
you know you got a short window, you got a couple of weeks left
, but it's gonna finish strong.
I mean, these fish were on thechew and they were there in good
numbers.
So I would recommend yougetting out and doing what you
(10:08):
gotta do before the windowcloses and we're all dreaming
about next year.
So I wanna touch base on onething that's always on my minds.
It's not something I'vediscussed on this podcast.
I do a lot of writing about iton NewYorkAnglercom but it's
(10:34):
this industrialization of ourcoast which we're seeing.
I'd like to say that it'sunbelievable to me that we are
allowing this to happen, becausewe are, you know, in New Jersey
(10:54):
.
They all held hands up and downthe beach.
They got a little bit ofcoverage, but if we could have
had hands from Jersey up toMaine, where we all know
everyone, no one wants this.
No one wants this.
The government wants it, but noone involved in anything from
(11:16):
owning a home on the beach.
You're a millionaire, you don'twanna look at the things.
If you're a environmentalist,you have to care about all the
wildlife we're killing.
I mean they just approved awind farm, upstate New York,
that they estimate it's gonnakill 87 bald eagles.
(11:41):
Now think about that.
You know how long and how muchmoney we spent to bring these
eagles back.
And now we're talking aboutthat's.
I mean, look, we all know theirnumbers are crazy, so, but
that's a lot of eagles.
(12:01):
So to get back to this, I don'twanna spend too much time on
this because it's never ending.
It just doesn't end.
From the cables to theelectrification, to current, to
wind, to birds, to pipingplovers, to dolphin, to, I mean,
(12:21):
every kind of mammal, seaturtles all these things are
being affected by what'shappening and no one's doing
anything about it.
I know that every personlistening to this, every single
one, is opposed to it.
No one could wanna have tobreak that inlet, head it for an
(12:45):
overnight or a head it outearly in the morning and have to
deal and see industry in ouroceans when we don't need it.
We don't have to have it and itdoesn't work.
But again, I don't wanna getinto that whole piece of it,
because it'll go on forever andever.
(13:08):
But what I do wanna mention isyou know this week was a tough
week.
We lost three whales this week,three whales that have been
entertaining beachgoers alongthe South Shore, long Island and
New Jersey since the bunkerhave arrived, which has been
(13:29):
five to six years now.
These whales were known.
You know every whale hascertain markings, whether it be
on their tail or whatever, butthese whales have been known to
be seen feeding.
We've probably seen them indrone footage or in video, and
(13:49):
they're floating up on the beachdead.
I want you to think about thelast time you heard about a
whale that was found on a beachdead this time of year.
Think about it.
It never happened.
(14:10):
It doesn't happen.
It's never happened before.
Well, the day I went fishingwith Rob oh no, I went I also
went with Pete one day and onthe way back he pointed out to
me.
I pointed to a survey ship andshowed how it was hitting that
(14:32):
area.
If you look at the law, go, yougo to myanglercom.
I only post things that I knowor fact, because a lot of times
if you go on Facebook, you knowpeople mean well, but they hear
something for the first time.
They don't realize it wasposted the day before.
(14:52):
Every single thing that I write, I check and fact check as well
as I can.
Obviously some things may fallthrough, but I can tell you
right now the ship was workingthe area that killed this latest
whale, there is no doubt aboutit, the whale that was putting
(15:15):
on a show for beachgoers.
That whale is dead Because ofthose survey ships.
Now somebody's going to tell youoh, wasn't that was this, it
was a virus, it was a boatstrike.
That's the one they love, boatstrike.
But what they don't tell you isfrom the pounding butt of the
(15:36):
surveys and the sounds emittedfrom the surveys they send the
whales into a state wherethey're in panic.
They don't know what they'redoing and that's why boat
strikes would be up.
But that whale, what strike?
And that thing it was in?
(15:57):
You know it was less than ahundred yards from the beach.
There were no big boats inthere.
And where are the results?
We've yet to hear about them.
So look, I'm going to end ithere.
But you know this is.
I am so disappointed in howpeople have given up.
(16:21):
Where are the advocates?
Where is everyone on?
This?
Is New Jersey, the only statethat's fighting this.
They actually have lawsuits inplace.
Where are we?
Where's the rest of the coast?
We need to organize.
If we organized, we could atleast slow it down.
(16:43):
But the problem is this is notleft.
This is not right.
Everybody thinks it's left.
If it was left so far left,where's Greenpeace?
It's not.
It's left and it's right.
I'm a registered Republican, butI'm not an idiot.
This didn't happen when JoeBiden came into office.
(17:05):
This should have been plannedfor years through the Trump
administration starting a newObama administration.
Actually, the Bushadministration was the first one
to talk about it.
So it's not left, it's notright.
They want it for the money.
(17:26):
It's all about money.
Everything is about money, andit saddens me to the core to
think that we are allowing thisto happen to our oceans and our
shoreline.
We stopped the showroom.
(17:46):
We long out on this.
We stopped a five billiondollar building that was built
already.
I mean, yeah, are we paying forit?
Yeah, but we did stop it.
No one said we could.
So I'm hoping somebody's gonnaunite everyone.
Someone needs to do it.
(18:07):
I mean, I know I can't handleit.
I got too much going on.
Nor do.
I feel I have that capability,but we do need to organize.
I would help, I would be partof it, I would provide whatever
they need.
I may even do a podcast aboutit, because every day it's
(18:27):
something else.
I mean, yesterday one of thoseturbines went on fire over in
somewhere in England, blockIsland.
The rates they're announcingthe rates are going up.
I mean you know it's every day.
Every day I wake up.
You know I got all these Googlealerts sent and all these
(18:49):
different things, and everysingle day it's another story
and it's not good and we're notdoing anything about it.
Okay, so much for that rant.
So you know I do a lot offishing.
I enjoy fishing, I love fishingand you know I'd like to see
(19:17):
long Islanders and New Yorkersbecome a part of fishing.
And then you know, you start tosee that some of these people
you bring in they just don't getit, they just don't care and
(19:40):
maybe they'd be better off noteven fishing.
And I'll give you an example ofthat.
Today I got I get, like youknow, I mean it goes out once
every couple of weeks it's areport from the DEC on busts.
You know that occurred and it'snot just, you know they don't
(20:02):
just handle fishing, they handleeverything you know.
So anything environmental, youknow also hunting, obviously.
I mean they do a lot, but it'shard to believe, like in one
week.
So I'm gonna give you a littlerundown of what I got today.
(20:25):
So on July 20th there was aboard boated and they found over
a hundred illegal fish.
On July 22nd there was aanother boat which was stopped
and it was boarded, and they toowere over the limit on just
(20:48):
about every single thing youcould think of.
Then we have one on July 23rd.
These police, the DEC officers,ended up having to chase these
guys down because they, like,ran away, and when they caught
them they find them with 24fluke, with only two being of
(21:14):
legal size.
Now, these people shouldn't befishing, they should be locked
up.
They make us all look bad.
I'm gonna give you another realmoron.
They don't mention names, but Imean this guy's a moron, so he
goes out, he, she, who knows.
(21:36):
You know I don't wanna beaccused of being anything, I'm
not a sexist, could be a womanprobably is come to pick about
it.
Anyhow, on July 26th, decboards a vessel in Huntington
Harbor and they're looking.
(21:59):
You know, they ask if he's gotany fish on board.
Of course he's got no fish.
And they go looking through theboat and all of a sudden, bam,
there it is a 44 inch stripedbass that they got like stopped
somewhere, like they're notgonna find it.
So you know, it's people likethis that make it bad for
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everybody and they make us lookbad, and I don't believe that
they are the majority.
Now, the one thing that I liked,that I I mean I like them all
Anybody who's breaking the lawshould be busted.
I mean, I'm the kind of guywhere we get a fish on board a
fluke and it's like right on theline.
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I'm always nervous.
I mean they say if it's on theline, you're dying.
So we'll keep that fish.
But it's always in the back ofmy head.
You know what happens, like ifit shrinks or something you know
.
I don't know if it does, butwhat happens if it does?
So but anyhow, so this one Ireally liked.
(23:09):
So this was August 2nd, just acouple of weeks ago.
We had a bunch of few officesthat got word about a market out
in Montauk that was sellingillegal blackfish.
They went there and, sureenough, they found a load of sea
(23:36):
bass that were illegal anduntagged blackfish.
So you know, I have to say Iget this thing like every couple
of weeks for the latest, ormaybe once a month, I'm not sure
.
But for the last number ofyears and this year they have
(23:57):
never, I've never seen so manypeople busted, you know, on
these type of regulations.
Now, could that be playing intothe fact that they want to hire
more and use the potential sword, license money with it?
(24:18):
I don't know.
But all I know is I tell youthere's a lot more people out
there that are breaking therules.
Are they doing that becausethey feel tightened and squeezed
?
I don't know.
But whatever it is, there is noexcuse.
You know, the law's the law, nomatter how much you hate it.
And yeah, I know I've spoken tothose guys and I know those
(24:43):
guys.
Well, I'm gonna keep this andI'm gonna do that until somebody
does this and you know what thelaw is the law.
You don't like it, then don'tfish.
I mean, that's literally whatit is.
So, yeah, so that was this.
That was just for a couple ofweeks.
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So imagine what's going on eachand every day.
I would think I'd like to thinkit's not that bad.
I know it's not that bad herebecause there's somebody fishing
where I am, out in, out inSmithtown Bay.
It's very, very few, so I doubtthey're keeping anything.
(25:27):
I doubt they're catchinganything under over the limit.
So, but there are people outthere.
Do they know?
These people?
Sure as heck knew, I mean, onewas running away, the other one
was selling them, the other guyhad a hundred fish.
So these people know thatthey're breaking the law and I
(25:49):
feel they make it.
I mean, look, they make us alllook bad.
They should be processed orprosecuted, rather, you know, to
the fullest extent of the law.
That is truly what I believe.
So I mean that about wraps itup for this episode, folks.
(26:11):
I just wanted to touch base.
I'll probably do a couple moreof these, but I do advise you to
get out and, you know, cash inon that stripe, stripe-ass, on
the fluke fishery while it'shere, because I'm telling you
(26:33):
there are a lot of fish, thereare a lot of keepies and I do
believe, like this is a perfecttime for you to get that big
double-digit fish, the one we'reall looking for and the one you
want to catch, before theyoutlaw you from keeping it Kind
of like me.
I never got that 50 pound bass.
(26:54):
Not that I want to kill a 50pound bass.
I'm tired of you peopleemailing me calling me a bass
killer.
You don't know anything aboutme.
Trust me, the people atFisherville they would.
They laugh when I tell themwhat you say.
My point is we should be allowedto.
(27:14):
I don't feel that a 50 poundbass is more important than
three 30 pound bass.
I'm sorry, a 50 pound bass, youdon't have too much more to
live, so, but anyhow, I want tosave them all.
I want to save the 50s, the 30s, the 20s, but at the same time,
(27:34):
I want everything to be fairand I don't want to be treated
as second-class citizens, as wealmost always are.
But again, you know, we'reanglers, we're the stewards of
the sea here, we're the peoplethat really know what's going on
(27:56):
and it's up to us whether ornot all of our fisheries are
gonna survive.
That's the bottom line.
So until next time, folks getout there oh, I always forget
this Subscribe to this thing.
All you have to do is I'm notsure, honestly, but subscribe to
(28:20):
the podcast and then you'll geta notification each and every
time that there's a new one.
So until next time, get outthere, cash in on some fishing.
We're headed for the higher seabass limit.
Actually, we're at that highersea bass limit?
Oh, no, we're not.
(28:42):
That's not gonna be untilSeptember or something.
But anyway, check my website onthat, because there's so many
right, I can't remembereverything.
So just be sure to get in onsome fishing.
Stop by to NewYorkAnglercom,where you can meet and ask
(29:02):
questions to some of the bestanglers there are, not only in
New York but on the entire EastCoast.
So thanks again, all forlistening.
Please tell your friends aboutthe podcast and feel free to
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(29:25):
like to give a shout out to allmy moderators over at
MyAnglercom for doing a greatjob that they're doing.
So until next time, tight lines.
Hello everyone, this is George Scocca and you're
listening to the New YorkFishing Podcast brought to you
by theNewYorkAnglercom, orNewYorkAnglercom, your secret
spot online where you can findtons of information about what's
(00:25):
happening in your local fisheryeach and every day.
Today is August 16th.
I did manage to get out and dosome of my favorite fishing,
which is fluke fishing.
Right now I keep a boat up inthe Nesquan.
(00:49):
I fish most at a time in thesound.
Well, in years past, anyhow,the last few years, it's been
tough.
I mean there's fluke, but it'sbeen tough.
You know, you really got toknow what you're doing.
You got to really work hard,and not that I'm not into
working hard, I would rather bein an area where I know I got a
(01:14):
really good shot at catching mybag limit and also catching a
big fish.
I was lucky enough to have mypartner in another company, rob
Pavlich.
Many of you may know him.
He helped run Nor'east andNor'eastcom and Nor'east
(01:35):
Saltwater for many, many years.
We're still together in adifferent company.
He invited me to go out to oneof my favorite spots, which was
introduced to me by LepLeprechaun.
(01:56):
People out of those of you thatknow him, he's probably one of
the best fluke fishermen on allof Long Island, but in any case
I love those grounds.
You know fishing at South ofJones I don't want to choose
which one.
There's a lot of areas aroundthere and I got to tell you it's
(02:20):
really great fluke fishing.
I mean, you know you're deepwater fishing, you're fishing in
60, 70, 80 foot of water andyou've got a shot at a big fish
and there's a good number ofkeepers in there.
I'm not sure I mean it's verymuch in line with Montauk.
(02:42):
You've got a lot better shot ata double digit fish.
You know there's no doubt aboutit because you hear of them
being caught there.
But this area, if you're notfamiliar with it, the flug
fishing there is fantastic.
(03:03):
It's off the charts, it reallyis, and it's been that way for
quite a while.
Hopefully it will stay that way.
So, anyhow.
So we go out, we run out, we gosouth to Jones and we had quite
a day.
I witnessed Rob catch hisbiggest fish so far.
(03:23):
He's got a new boat and this isall new to him and he was good.
He was really good at what he'sdoing and he caught a fish over
five pounds, which was great,and we had a number of fish and
we got back to the dock that wehad to do.
When I got back there, you knowLef was there with those of you
(03:47):
that are familiar with somenames on the website with Kevin,
who is long cast, and they hada bang update, we've seen him
out there.
We were fishing right near him,but you know they kicked our
butt but that's left.
What are you gonna do?
But Rob did a great job and wecaught a lot of fish and I had a
(04:07):
fantastic day.
So then I had a trip that wasplanned again with the folks
from NewYorkAnglercom those ofyou that aren't joining us and
missing out on all this stuffand you know there's no Facebook
BS, it's all just fun, so youknow.
(04:30):
So we I get this invite to goout on a charter with one of my
favorite charter captains,captain Mike Beatty.
You folks may know him.
He's out on a North Fork.
He's just a really good friendof mine.
It's captain's table charters,you know.
(04:52):
I mean we date back to when mybrother was around back in the
Northeast days, but I neverreally fished him.
I didn't know him that well.
So anyhow, it turns out thathe's good friends with Lepp, and
so over the last few years I'vehad the honor and pleasure and
enjoyment of fishing, you know,with Mike, with Captain Mike,
(05:17):
and so I got an invite fromanother New York angler member,
snapperhead.
It's pretty funny, that used tobe my nickname years ago, but
so anyhow.
So he invites me to go on thestrip and you know, it was this
past Monday, it was August 14th,it was my wife's birthday and I
(05:44):
was like the week before it wasAugust 7th and it was my
birthday, and she went andplayed pickleball and did her
thing.
So, you know, I got back toMatt snapperhead and I was like,
you know what?
It's my wife's birthday.
Really don't think I shouldfish that day.
And I'm like, give me a fewminutes, let me think about it.
(06:05):
I'll get back to you in aboutan hour.
So I go, hey, barb, I go.
Well, you know, what do youwant to do on your birthday?
Well, I'm gonna play pickleballand this one's gonna stop by
and the auntie's coming home andI said, oh, okay, good, I'm
gonna fish it.
She's fine with that.
I think she likes when I fishmore than or as much as I like
(06:27):
to fish.
I think she just likes gettingrid of me or maybe she does like
to see me enjoy myself.
So anyhow, we go out.
We got quite a crew.
We've got I don't know if youfolks those of you may know
Nader, who's the chef and he'salso fishing here.
It was my first time fishingwith him and I kicked his butt,
(06:50):
although he will deny that I dida big fish.
I'm not sure I thought wetotaled on the bag but I'm not
sure.
But I know I kicked his buttbut in any case he was a good
guy.
When you fish with differentpeople, flucan, you learn there
(07:11):
are so many different ways tocatch Fluc and many people,
through my very good friend,john Skinner, has introduced
people to this bulk tailing kindof gulp thing.
Not that he introduced the gulpand bulk tailing, but he did
make it very popular To thepoint that people think that's
(07:33):
the only way now that they cancatch fish.
They don't realize there's somany different factors that go
into fluk fishing that there aredays where and this happened to
have been one of those dayswhere they are not biting that
bottom bucktail, that bucktailon.
(07:54):
Some days they just don't do it.
So you know, maybe youshouldn't be using one, or maybe
you should be using a differenttype of a rig, but anyhow.
So let me get back to thefishing.
So we get there, everybody'sgreat.
We get out, we set up and youknow we're catching right away a
(08:16):
couple of shorts, we get akeeper and Kat and Mike says you
know, I got this blue teaserthat.
You know, work always works forme in this particular area.
I'm like give me that suck.
I didn't wait a second.
So I get this blue teaser, Iput it on, I go oh, I know what
(08:38):
I had.
I had a gulp sand eel and I'vehad these freaking things
forever and I gotta tell youthey never produced a thing.
But wow, did they work,combined with this particular
blue teaser.
So I dropped down first drop.
I dropped down, bang.
I hooked up fishes over sixpounds, mike, I'm loving Montauk
(09:03):
.
So the longer, the shorter itwas.
We had a great day.
I had as many you know Ilimited out and if I was in some
kind of a fishing tournamentfor heavy weight, wow, man, I
mean, for those four fish I wasover 15, 18, maybe 20 pounds.
(09:26):
But again, you know, almostevery fish I had was on the
teaser.
So that told me that thebucktail really wasn't working
that well, I switched to a whiteball, which I learned, actually
from let, and they kind ofstarted hitting on those.
(09:47):
But I tell you why, folks, ifyou get a shot to get out there,
you know you got a short window, you got a couple of weeks left
, but it's gonna finish strong.
I mean, these fish were on thechew and they were there in good
numbers.
So I would recommend yougetting out and doing what you
(10:08):
gotta do before the windowcloses and we're all dreaming
about next year.
So I wanna touch base on onething that's always on my minds.
It's not something I'vediscussed on this podcast.
I do a lot of writing about iton NewYorkAnglercom but it's
(10:34):
this industrialization of ourcoast which we're seeing.
I'd like to say that it'sunbelievable to me that we are
allowing this to happen, becausewe are, you know, in New Jersey
(10:54):
.
They all held hands up and downthe beach.
They got a little bit ofcoverage, but if we could have
had hands from Jersey up toMaine, where we all know
everyone, no one wants this.
No one wants this.
The government wants it, but noone involved in anything from
(11:16):
owning a home on the beach.
You're a millionaire, you don'twanna look at the things.
If you're a environmentalist,you have to care about all the
wildlife we're killing.
I mean they just approved awind farm, upstate New York,
that they estimate it's gonnakill 87 bald eagles.
(11:41):
Now think about that.
You know how long and how muchmoney we spent to bring these
eagles back.
And now we're talking aboutthat's.
I mean, look, we all know theirnumbers are crazy, so, but
that's a lot of eagles.
(12:01):
So to get back to this, I don'twanna spend too much time on
this because it's never ending.
It just doesn't end.
From the cables to theelectrification, to current, to
wind, to birds, to pipingplovers, to dolphin, to, I mean,
(12:21):
every kind of mammal, seaturtles all these things are
being affected by what'shappening and no one's doing
anything about it.
I know that every personlistening to this, every single
one, is opposed to it.
No one could wanna have tobreak that inlet, head it for an
(12:45):
overnight or a head it outearly in the morning and have to
deal and see industry in ouroceans when we don't need it.
We don't have to have it and itdoesn't work.
But again, I don't wanna getinto that whole piece of it,
because it'll go on forever andever.
(13:08):
But what I do wanna mention isyou know this week was a tough
week.
We lost three whales this week,three whales that have been
entertaining beachgoers alongthe South Shore, long Island and
New Jersey since the bunkerhave arrived, which has been
(13:29):
five to six years now.
These whales were known.
You know every whale hascertain markings, whether it be
on their tail or whatever, butthese whales have been known to
be seen feeding.
We've probably seen them indrone footage or in video, and
(13:49):
they're floating up on the beachdead.
I want you to think about thelast time you heard about a
whale that was found on a beachdead this time of year.
Think about it.
It never happened.
(14:10):
It doesn't happen.
It's never happened before.
Well, the day I went fishingwith Rob oh no, I went I also
went with Pete one day and onthe way back he pointed out to
me.
I pointed to a survey ship andshowed how it was hitting that
(14:32):
area.
If you look at the law, go, yougo to myanglercom.
I only post things that I knowor fact, because a lot of times
if you go on Facebook, you knowpeople mean well, but they hear
something for the first time.
They don't realize it wasposted the day before.
(14:52):
Every single thing that I write, I check and fact check as well
as I can.
Obviously some things may fallthrough, but I can tell you
right now the ship was workingthe area that killed this latest
whale, there is no doubt aboutit, the whale that was putting
(15:15):
on a show for beachgoers.
That whale is dead Because ofthose survey ships.
Now somebody's going to tell youoh, wasn't that was this, it
was a virus, it was a boatstrike.
That's the one they love, boatstrike.
But what they don't tell you isfrom the pounding butt of the
(15:36):
surveys and the sounds emittedfrom the surveys they send the
whales into a state wherethey're in panic.
They don't know what they'redoing and that's why boat
strikes would be up.
But that whale, what strike?
And that thing it was in?
(15:57):
You know it was less than ahundred yards from the beach.
There were no big boats inthere.
And where are the results?
We've yet to hear about them.
So look, I'm going to end ithere.
But you know this is.
I am so disappointed in howpeople have given up.
(16:21):
Where are the advocates?
Where is everyone on?
This?
Is New Jersey, the only statethat's fighting this.
They actually have lawsuits inplace.
Where are we?
Where's the rest of the coast?
We need to organize.
If we organized, we could atleast slow it down.
(16:43):
But the problem is this is notleft.
This is not right.
Everybody thinks it's left.
If it was left so far left,where's Greenpeace?
It's not.
It's left and it's right.
I'm a registered Republican, butI'm not an idiot.
This didn't happen when JoeBiden came into office.
(17:05):
This should have been plannedfor years through the Trump
administration starting a newObama administration.
Actually, the Bushadministration was the first one
to talk about it.
So it's not left, it's notright.
They want it for the money.
(17:26):
It's all about money.
Everything is about money, andit saddens me to the core to
think that we are allowing thisto happen to our oceans and our
shoreline.
We stopped the showroom.
(17:46):
We long out on this.
We stopped a five billiondollar building that was built
already.
I mean, yeah, are we paying forit?
Yeah, but we did stop it.
No one said we could.
So I'm hoping somebody's gonnaunite everyone.
Someone needs to do it.
(18:07):
I mean, I know I can't handleit.
I got too much going on.
Nor do.
I feel I have that capability,but we do need to organize.
I would help, I would be partof it, I would provide whatever
they need.
I may even do a podcast aboutit, because every day it's
(18:27):
something else.
I mean, yesterday one of thoseturbines went on fire over in
somewhere in England, blockIsland.
The rates they're announcingthe rates are going up.
I mean you know it's every day.
Every day I wake up.
You know I got all these Googlealerts sent and all these
(18:49):
different things, and everysingle day it's another story
and it's not good and we're notdoing anything about it.
Okay, so much for that rant.
So you know I do a lot offishing.
I enjoy fishing, I love fishingand you know I'd like to see
(19:17):
long Islanders and New Yorkersbecome a part of fishing.
And then you know, you start tosee that some of these people
you bring in they just don't getit, they just don't care and
(19:40):
maybe they'd be better off noteven fishing.
And I'll give you an example ofthat.
Today I got I get, like youknow, I mean it goes out once
every couple of weeks it's areport from the DEC on busts.
You know that occurred and it'snot just, you know they don't
(20:02):
just handle fishing, they handleeverything you know.
So anything environmental, youknow also hunting, obviously.
I mean they do a lot, but it'shard to believe, like in one
week.
So I'm gonna give you a littlerundown of what I got today.
(20:25):
So on July 20th there was aboard boated and they found over
a hundred illegal fish.
On July 22nd there was aanother boat which was stopped
and it was boarded, and they toowere over the limit on just
(20:48):
about every single thing youcould think of.
Then we have one on July 23rd.
These police, the DEC officers,ended up having to chase these
guys down because they, like,ran away, and when they caught
them they find them with 24fluke, with only two being of
(21:14):
legal size.
Now, these people shouldn't befishing, they should be locked
up.
They make us all look bad.
I'm gonna give you another realmoron.
They don't mention names, but Imean this guy's a moron, so he
goes out, he, she, who knows.
(21:36):
You know I don't wanna beaccused of being anything, I'm
not a sexist, could be a womanprobably is come to pick about
it.
Anyhow, on July 26th, decboards a vessel in Huntington
Harbor and they're looking.
(21:59):
You know, they ask if he's gotany fish on board.
Of course he's got no fish.
And they go looking through theboat and all of a sudden, bam,
there it is a 44 inch stripedbass that they got like stopped
somewhere, like they're notgonna find it.
So you know, it's people likethis that make it bad for
(22:25):
everybody and they make us lookbad, and I don't believe that
they are the majority.
Now, the one thing that I liked,that I I mean I like them all
Anybody who's breaking the lawshould be busted.
I mean, I'm the kind of guywhere we get a fish on board a
fluke and it's like right on theline.
(22:46):
I'm always nervous.
I mean they say if it's on theline, you're dying.
So we'll keep that fish.
But it's always in the back ofmy head.
You know what happens, like ifit shrinks or something you know
.
I don't know if it does, butwhat happens if it does?
So but anyhow, so this one Ireally liked.
(23:09):
So this was August 2nd, just acouple of weeks ago.
We had a bunch of few officesthat got word about a market out
in Montauk that was sellingillegal blackfish.
They went there and, sureenough, they found a load of sea
(23:36):
bass that were illegal anduntagged blackfish.
So you know, I have to say Iget this thing like every couple
of weeks for the latest, ormaybe once a month, I'm not sure
.
But for the last number ofyears and this year they have
(23:57):
never, I've never seen so manypeople busted, you know, on
these type of regulations.
Now, could that be playing intothe fact that they want to hire
more and use the potential sword, license money with it?
(24:18):
I don't know.
But all I know is I tell youthere's a lot more people out
there that are breaking therules.
Are they doing that becausethey feel tightened and squeezed
?
I don't know.
But whatever it is, there is noexcuse.
You know, the law's the law, nomatter how much you hate it.
And yeah, I know I've spoken tothose guys and I know those
(24:43):
guys.
Well, I'm gonna keep this andI'm gonna do that until somebody
does this and you know what thelaw is the law.
You don't like it, then don'tfish.
I mean, that's literally whatit is.
So, yeah, so that was this.
That was just for a couple ofweeks.
(25:04):
So imagine what's going on eachand every day.
I would think I'd like to thinkit's not that bad.
I know it's not that bad herebecause there's somebody fishing
where I am, out in, out inSmithtown Bay.
It's very, very few, so I doubtthey're keeping anything.
(25:27):
I doubt they're catchinganything under over the limit.
So, but there are people outthere.
Do they know?
These people?
Sure as heck knew, I mean, onewas running away, the other one
was selling them, the other guyhad a hundred fish.
So these people know thatthey're breaking the law and I
(25:49):
feel they make it.
I mean, look, they make us alllook bad.
They should be processed orprosecuted, rather, you know, to
the fullest extent of the law.
That is truly what I believe.
So I mean that about wraps itup for this episode, folks.
(26:11):
I just wanted to touch base.
I'll probably do a couple moreof these, but I do advise you to
get out and, you know, cash inon that stripe, stripe-ass, on
the fluke fishery while it'shere, because I'm telling you
(26:33):
there are a lot of fish, thereare a lot of keepies and I do
believe, like this is a perfecttime for you to get that big
double-digit fish, the one we'reall looking for and the one you
want to catch, before theyoutlaw you from keeping it Kind
of like me.
I never got that 50 pound bass.
(26:54):
Not that I want to kill a 50pound bass.
I'm tired of you peopleemailing me calling me a bass
killer.
You don't know anything aboutme.
Trust me, the people atFisherville they would.
They laugh when I tell themwhat you say.
My point is we should be allowedto.
(27:14):
I don't feel that a 50 poundbass is more important than
three 30 pound bass.
I'm sorry, a 50 pound bass, youdon't have too much more to
live, so, but anyhow, I want tosave them all.
I want to save the 50s, the 30s, the 20s, but at the same time,
(27:34):
I want everything to be fairand I don't want to be treated
as second-class citizens, as wealmost always are.
But again, you know, we'reanglers, we're the stewards of
the sea here, we're the peoplethat really know what's going on
(27:56):
and it's up to us whether ornot all of our fisheries are
gonna survive.
That's the bottom line.
So until next time, folks getout there oh, I always forget
this Subscribe to this thing.
All you have to do is I'm notsure, honestly, but subscribe to
(28:20):
the podcast and then you'll geta notification each and every
time that there's a new one.
So until next time, get outthere, cash in on some fishing.
We're headed for the higher seabass limit.
Actually, we're at that highersea bass limit?
Oh, no, we're not.
(28:42):
That's not gonna be untilSeptember or something.
But anyway, check my website onthat, because there's so many
right, I can't remembereverything.
So just be sure to get in onsome fishing.
Stop by to NewYorkAnglercom,where you can meet and ask
(29:02):
questions to some of the bestanglers there are, not only in
New York but on the entire EastCoast.
So thanks again, all forlistening.
Please tell your friends aboutthe podcast and feel free to
email me if there's a subjectyou want me to discuss, and I'd
(29:25):
like to give a shout out to allmy moderators over at
MyAnglercom for doing a greatjob that they're doing.
So until next time, tight lines.
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