Five weeks after he was sacked as chair of the board of Te Whatu Ora, Rob Campbell reflected on what was going so wrong with the health reforms and what might be done to make it right. He was speaking to a meeting of the Fabian Society in Wellington. System Fix host and New Zealand Doctor Rata Aotearoa editor Barbara Fountain says that speech and Mr Campbell’s subsequent comments deserve more air time and replays it as part of this podcast episode. Mr Campbell provides the ultimate insider’s view of the reform process – with fresh eyes on health he was leading the new structure at the heart of the reform, that is, until he was dismissed by health minister Ayesha Verrall for breaching public service etiquette and commenting on political matters outside his brief
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