Young QB's: Bryce Young Situation is a Mess, Caleb Williams & Bears, NFL Week 2 Talk & IT HAS TO STOP!!

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Sean Little (00:23):
No ketchup, no ketchup.
What's good, my people, Welcometo the no Catch-Up Sports Talk
via Chicago.
I am your host, Sean Little BigNick the Quick with me.
As always, we got a bunch totalk about because we back
rolling weekly.
You already know what time itis.
Young quarterback, Bryce Youngthey got my man up out of there
early.
Second week.
Canales not my guy, he's got togo.

(00:45):
Jaden Daniels taking hits.
Will Levis coach is asking himyo, what in the world are you
doing?
Young fella, You're not goingto have a job too much longer,
young fella, if you keep doingthis.
As I get a package in New YorkCity, Caleb and the Bears we got
to talk about that Around theshield.
Baker the Chiefs, Ravens 0-2,.

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Kyler Murray dealing.
It has to stop.
What around the NFL just has tostop and needs to stop.
Or the NFL or the world.
We'll talk about it.
No catch-up sports talk viaChicago.
Let's get to it.
All, right, had to let thatpackage in real quick.
Big Nick the Quick, how wefeeling.
Good bro, what's going on?
Hey man, listen, I'm on mysecond cup of coffee without

(01:28):
eating any breakfast.
This has got to be.
I'm Superman, Untouchable rightnow.

Nick Harvey (01:35):
That's me every day , brother.
I usually do about two or threeeat the breakfast and finish
with the fourth cup, but I'malso we talked about this before
.
I'm a sicko when it comes tocoffee I drink the entire pot
daily, so yeah, yeah, see,that's yeah.

I don't do all that .
I be shaking Every day Need to,but it is.
Yeah, man, my mind is running.
I'm thinking about going out toManchester to catch Arsenal,
man City.
That's how the second cup ofcoffee got me feeling bro,
that's it, there you go.
That's really it.
Uh, all right, let's jump rightinto it, because we got a lot

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to talk about and you know howwe eat up ours.
We're gonna get to calebwilliam and the bears and
iberflues and what's going onwith shane waldron and the
offensive line and did we notsee some of this coming in camp
or the?
The offensive line is an uhatrocity.
We'll get to the bearsatrocious and we'll get to a lot

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of other stuff around theleague, as I mentioned off the
top.
But let's start with bryceyoung, because this is a.
This is almost unprecedented.
It's almost unprecedented for aheismanrophy winning
quarterback that goes number onein the NFL to be banished
Unanimously.

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Number one, yeah To be shelvedafter 18 games.
And before I forget Nick, Ihave to bring this up Lovie
Smith changed the course of theNFL no bullshit.
Lovey smith changed the courseof the nfl no bullshit.
In that last week 18 game wherethe texans went ahead and got a
w because let's not get ittwisted nick they don't win that

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game the texans get the numberone pick.
And who do they take bryceyoung?
A vast majority of the teams inthe league, including myself.
I thought Bryce was going to bea good quarterback in the NFL,
the poise there was one thingthat translated from college to
the pros was going to be BryceYoung's poise.

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He was a leader, he could makethings work, yeah.

And I think we talked about this at the time
and I said, yeah, of course he'spoised, he's playing in Alabama
next to 10 other five-starrecruits.
He's not much to worry about,which was my thing from the very
beginning, with a lot of theseAlabama quarterbacks.
Shout out to him, it's a lot oftalent going on.
They don't got to do too much,it's true, but Shout out McElroy
.

Yo Lovey wins.
The Texans draft Coleridge.
Bernard Stroud Stroud Bears getthe number one pick.
They pack it up or they don'tpack it up.
They draft Caleb.
But it was a series of things.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, we traded it.
We traded that pick.

Got a whole bunch of picks.
We got Carolina's number onethis year, which leads to us
having the number one and wedraft Caleb, so we got
Carolina's number one this year,which leads to us having the
number one and we draft Caleb.

So, yeah, very, very history-changing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, my bad so twoyears ago, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yes, man, I thought aboutthat watching Coleridge the
other night, hearing the Brycenews, I'm like this is all Lovey
Smith.

Yep.

The Texans should put a statue out in front of NRG
of Lovey Smith.

They were mad at him about that.
Their ownership was mad.
They were like no, we wantedyou to lose that game.
Lovey knew.

Bro Lovey saved the franchise and they don't even
know it.

Yep For real.
D'amico owes him 10%.

D'Amico.
Everybody owes Lovey.
Everybody hit Lovey on the side.
I wonder what Lovey's doingright now.

Lovey, I hope everybody hit Lovey on the side.
I wonder what Lovey's doingright now.
Shout out Lovey Sitting on thebag going to church, chilling.

Big time Combing his beard Combing his beard.

I'm rich, I'm rich.
Maybe another college will hireme.
Yeah, facts Shout out.
Lovey Smith.

Shout out Lovey Smith man.

Leader of men.

Leader of men Lovey Smith.
Leader of men.
Leader of men Lovie Smith.
Leader of men Lovie Smith.
So unprecedented, though yeah,Do you agree with the decision?
What do you think about thedecision?
When you saw it pop up, wereyou shocked.
I mean, the numbers arehorrific.

The numbers are horrific, and if you watch them
play, if you've watched any ofthe games of the Panthers which,
if you've watched any of thegames of the panthers which, if
you haven't, I don't blame you.
It's not.
It's not good football to watch.
He can't throw the balldownfield, he shook out there.
It's beyond the numbers.
It's just when you watch it itdoesn't look right.
So I wasn't shocked.
The only thing that shocked meis that on sunday night,
canellas came out and said bryceis our guy, we're sticking with

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bryce, and no less than 12hours later, uh, the decision is
made to pitch the guy in favorof Andy Dalton.
If I'm Kanellis, though, look,we know the deal with David
Tepper, since he's been there.
I believe that Kanellis iseither the third or fourth head
coach that team has had, andDave Tepper's only owned that
team for three years.
So this is a guy who has aquick trigger on coaches.
You saw it last year with uh.

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Who is my man's?
Was it Frank Wright?

Yeah, they fired him.

Yeah, they fired him within three weeks of hiring
him.

No, it wasn't Frank .
It was who did they start theseason with yeah, it was.

Yeah, I think it was Frank Wright.
Yeah.

They started the year with him.

It went two games, it wasn't going well and they
fired him.
Tepper is known as is beingthis kind of guy, so if you're
Canelo, it's like I'm trying tostay in this job.
I know right now, as crazy asit sounds, andy Dalton gives me
a better chance of at leastlooking competitive than Bryce
Young, but I am shocked that youwould essentially give up on a

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guy this early.
Someone likened it to the ZachWilson situation where it's like
, hey, young fella, just sit fora couple games and you know,
get everything back in order andcome back out there.
I don't think this is that.
I don't think there's anythingthat you can pull from for this
kid, and I worry that if theywin a game or two, he's never
going to see the field again inCarolina.

Now let me just give everybody a recap of what
the Bears moved to give, whatthe Bears received for Carolina
to get the number one pick totake Bryce Young.
At the end of the day, theBears got Caleb Williams, DJ
Moore, Darnell Wright, TorreyTaylor and Tyreek Stevenson.
Four of those guys start forthe team right now, today.

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Who doesn't?
I guess Torrey Taylor's thepunter.
Yeah, but I guess that's whereI was.
I'm talking about likedown-to-down backs, but yeah, I
guess they're all like yeah,they're all starters.
Don't disrespect the weapon,Torrey Taylor, he's one of our
better players, low-key.

He's flipping fields left and right.
He's flipping fields left andright.

Shout out TT, TTP.
That's what we're going to callhim TTP.
Torrey Taylor punter TorreyTaylor, the punter he should
hold out.
He should hold out Low key.
Go get a new deal, ttp.
Hey mate, this doesn't lookright, mate, hey mate, remember
when Caleb sent him the messagethat you're not going to be
punting very much, he's like you, sure about that, my boy Folks

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is punting every possession.
Yo.
So to go back to Bryce Young,since coming into the league
last year, yards per attempt 5.4.
That's 32nd in the NFL.
There's only 32 teams.
Touchdown to interception ratio31st.
68 sacks taken.

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That's 32nd.
Epa per dropback negative .24.
What's EPA?
Epa is estimated.
Points added by the way forthose who don't know Negative,
so every time he drops back itcosts them points.
Yes, negative .24.
It's 32nd in the league.

I've never heard that stat.
Wait, every time he drops back,he costs the team points.

Yeah, yeah, epa is a big analytical indicator.
Yeah, we can chat about itoffline.

That's a good stat.
Yeah, I like that.

EPA is huge, passer rating 70.9.
32nd there's only 32 teams.
So his win percentage it's alittle 11 percenter.
32nd there's only 32 teams.
So when you talk about justwhat he's done since getting in

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the league, I mean, maybe I feelsome type of way about the
overall situation because, yes,he's played poorly.
There is absolutely no arguingthat.
Yeah, he's been in a badsituation Head coaches flipping
all over the place, no talent onthe roster but he hasn't shown

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any flashes of anything.
And, nick, you know what thisgoes back for me.
I've been pounding on the tablefor years, bro, and I know it
takes a lot of guts and a lot ofheart.
If you're Bryce Young andyou're Bryce Young's team

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looking at Carolina, you knewthat was a disaster before you
even showed up.
I think more players need topull the Eli Manning and the
John Elway.
Yo, I'm not showing up to thiscamp.
This franchise is a dumpsterfire.
I'm not going.
I'll go pick five before I goruin my career.
Nick, he's getting ready to beout of the league.

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Yeah, before I ruin my career,I'm not going to Carolina.
There's nothing over there forme.
I'm not going to Carolina.
There's nothing over there forme.
I'm not doing that.
I think more number one, howmuch leverage the quarterback
position has.
I think more players shouldstart imploring this option.

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Eli did it, bro, in everybody'sface and didn't care.

Didn't care How's dad doing.
Eli's not going.
He's not going to San Diego.
We're not doing it.

Bro, do not draft me.
I'm not showing up, yep.
All right, I want to be adealer?

Don't even.

Don't think about it.
I want to go make money off thefield no one Off the field.
I'm not about to go out toQualcomm Stadium and play
football where no one caresabout it.
I'm not doing that.
I really think more playerscoming out with as much leverage

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as a lot of these guys do likeyeah, no, don't draft me because
I'm not coming and I'll dowhatever is necessary.
And it's an indictment on yourfranchise because y'all aren't
running shit right over there.
That's it and that's all so.
But to get back to the footballportion, I feel bad for Bryce
Young, because when you're in abad situation and the talent is
maybe not what it needs to be tosucceed, it is a dumpster fire,

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and a quick dumpster fire, andthat's exactly what happened out
there.
This also goes back tosomething that we've been
pounding the table on here at nocatch up for literally seven
plus years is, when you're aquarterback, you better have
some ties to the coach mybrother.
Well, he did.

He did for the one that the regime that drafted him
was in was in there.
They just only lasted threedays.

No, no, but that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, so you better have tiesto the current coach my brother
for sure or you are going to bein bad shape.
I want to say Carolina, flipGMs as well.

I think they flipped the entire situation.

So if you don't have, look that up for me.
So if you don't have any tiesto the GM or the coach and you
stinking up the joint every week, you are on less than borrow
time, Doc, you are in trouble.

They fired their GM on January.

So you better have ties to at least the GM.
Yeah, because a perfect exampleis Joe Shane.
He's got ties to Daniel Jones,has ties to Joe Shane, not
Dayball Joe Shane.
That's why he got a deal.

Did you watch the Hard Knocks offseason?
It's like Shane didn't want toadmit how much of a massive
mistake it was that he's payingDaniel Jones $40 million, doing
everything he can to try to makethe roster work around it, and
you could see the lack ofconfidence in Dayball and
anybody he talked to aboutDaniel Jones, especially when
they were going through theSaquon thing.
I would say anybody who wantsto see turmoil, watch that hard

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knock.
And when they're going throughSaquon leaving, even the owner
comes and says I won't be ableto sleep if Saquon ends up on
the Eagles.
Two weeks later he's on theEagles and you can just see that
.

That's what a building looks like.

That's what a building looks like when you
lock your quarterback in aquarterback.
You don't believe in aquarterback who doesn't make you
better into a long-term dealand you're just in shambles
trying to figure out how tobuild around it.
And it's played out for thefirst two weeks of the season,
obviously.
Yeah, I think for bryce youngman.
I think he has to get out ofcarolina.
I don't think that he thatanything good is going to come

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from him staying there.
I don't think you can go backto him.
I think his confidence has tobe shattered at this point.
Like you said, the situationthat he came into and we're
sensitive to quarterbacks cominginto bad situations because we
have seen it up front for what?
The last two that we had goingfurther, even back than that if
you don't have the right thingsaround the quarterback, it is
really tough.
On the other hand, he has notshown anything, even with fields

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we could say, hey, look, look,he does this, there's this,
there's this.
Like there's some hope to holdon to With Bryce Young.
There's really nothing you canpoint to.
He has played terrible, theorganization has performed
terrible.
That's why I'm ultimately notsurprised at this decision, but
I'm somewhat shocked because tome it is waving a white flag on
your second-year quarterback.

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And it also brings the questionwell, what was the Panthers'
mission this year?
Was it year two?
Let's continue developing Bryce, or was it?
We need to win as manyballgames as possible, and
you're always trying to wingames, but you know what I mean.
Sometimes seasons havedifferent themes.
It's not let's try to go outthere and go 4-13, so it looks
like we fought hard.

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Sometimes it's like hey, for 17games, we're going to put this
guy through the fire and see ifhe's our guy, and to me it
sounds like after 18 games ofhim being a starter, they've
already made that decision.
So he's definitely going toneed a fresh start somewhere
else.
I just wonder what that lookslike and if teams are are
willing to take that.
So I thought it was interestingcoming into the year that there

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was no talk about him, like thewhole league had kind of
written him off.
After last year I'd never seena one-to-one pitch.

No, not everybody.
There was a lot of people likeyo.
I don't want to jump toconclusions on Bryce.
Even Orlovsky talks about itall the time.

It was, but not like you would think, like hey,
year two, like with the amountof hype that he had coming in.
I mean Bryce, like when we talkabout unanimous number one,
there was not a conversationbetween Bryce and CJ.
It wasn't a conversationbetween Bryce and whoever.
Remind me who was the thirdquarterback taken in that draft.
There wasn't a conversation.
This guy was a unanimous numberone.

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This was like the guy you hadto get.
They were calling him stephcurry.

They said yeah, it was.
Comparison to him is stephcurry and and look, if it wasn't
one, it was goddamn for surenumber two.

It was either going number one or number two yeah,
yeah, and the number one wouldhave been the uh, the dude, the
pass rusher that will, willanderson yeah, well, anderson,
yeah, yeah as far asquarterbacks go, this was guy.
This was the number one guy andI thought going into this year
it was very quiet for the BryceYoung situation.
I think I'd said this to youbefore.
It's just like man.
No one is talking about thisguy at all and it's almost like

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everybody saw what they need tosee and apparently the Carolina
Panthers did too.
It's tough man and and I thinkthat when you see other guys
move quickly, like CJ Stroud,you know, like some of these

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other quarterbacks who have kindof hit the ground running, even
go to a Brock Purdy, right youget.

you start comparing your guy to that guy.
It's not all the same.
Wait, wait, wait.
Yeah, Some guys take a littlebit longer.

Brady's been talking a lot about this.
Brady's like look, it took mefive years to be a starter at
Michigan.
It took me two years to startin the NFL.
All that was development.
We're now shot-nutting guys.
So, yeah, I mean, we're seeingit.
If we want to move into Caleb,we're seeing it with Caleb
Williams.
This is a different league.

Hey, but this is a different league.
Hey, but this is the thing.
There is guys like Colbridgewalking around.
Sure, there are.
You, feel me?
So that's what makes itextremely difficult, but are
they the standard or theexception?
Yeah, that's probably a greatpoint.

Part of the reason we were so amazed by CJ Stroud
is in the history of theNational Football League we had
never seen a rookie do that.
We had seen rookies put upnumbers before We'd never seen
rookies put up numbers that ledto winning.
Not only We've seen rookies putup numbers before, We've never
seen rookies put up numbers thatled to winning Right, Like, not
only was he out there doing histhing, they were winning ball
games Right.
And we saw Sunday night thisguy's high level, Some of the

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throws he's making.
I called you after the NicoCollins touchdown.
I said, hey, look, man, runthat back.
That throw was extremely highlevel.
He did some things on thatthrow that not a lot of guys are
doing.
The way that he tossed it upthere, the way that he led him,
the way that he put it in thespot that it was either
touchdown or nothing.

Well, we talk about this all the time.
There's accuracy.
And then there's what do wecall it?
We call it Joe Burrow.

There's accuracy.
Ball placement, there'saccuracy and there's ball
placement, ball placement.
If you can place a ball, yourreceivers love you.
You make your receivers rich byhaving elite ball placement.

The difference is accuracy versus ball placement.
You're exactly right, yep, allright quickly.
Well, let me close out theBryce thing.
I think it's a combination of areally good, well-run
organization.
He doesn't look as bad as he'slooked, but I'm still not sure
he's an NFL starting quarterback.

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I think that's the easiest wayto put it.
If he was in a better-runorganization that had some
stability, he wouldn't look thatbad.
The fact that he's not an NFLguy and his franchise is a
dumpster fire, it absolutelybecomes an embarrassment how bad
it looks on the field.
Hey, and really quick realquick show.

Shout out, shout out.
Andy dalton's agent for alwaysputting andy in a situation he's
solid though where there's ashaky quarterback in front of
him, he's gonna play that getshurt he plays in dallas.
Hey, justin feels is shaky.
Let's get you the bears.
Hey, I heard car's situationmight be shaky.
We'll slide you in there, don'tworry, you'll be playing by
week.
Three Facts Shut up Facts.
Shut up the Red Rocket man.
What a career Red Rifle.

Red Rifle.

Even in Cincinnati it was like hey, carson Wentz is
on his way.

Or the next 10 years, and you won't have to win
too much.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it, it's allgood.
All right, really quick, I wantto touch on jayden daniels.
I tweeted out I'll touch jaydendaniels and we'll go to will
levitz, then we'll go to caleband the bears.
But really quick, jaydendaniels.
I tweeted out I'm worried aboutthis kid.
They're running this dude likehe like this is college football
.
Yeah, he took a shot in theribs in week two because I was

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on washington.
He took a big shot to the ribsthat he was going to come out,
end up staying in.
But what I'm getting at is hecan't be taking shots like that.
He's too little.
I've seen this movie quite afew times and this is not Josh
Allen I'm talking about and I'mworried about Josh.
This dude is 60 pounds shy of.

Josh Allen, not even close to Josh Allen.
Yeah, and he doesn't have theelusiveness of Lamar Jackson, to
kind of escape a lot of that.

Yeah, correct.
So shout out, jaden, I think.
Uh, hey, cliff Kingsbury isover there running the offense.
He's got him distributed.

We know he's an offensive genius, so yeah, and
that's Mr.

Get a Check too.
So shout out Cliff, Shout outCliff, Shout out Cliff Kingsbury
.
So the one thing I do want totouch on is Jaden looks good
overall.
I think his decision making hasbeen good and he's not trying
to push it downfield Only, onlyonly only when he really has an
opportunity, which it hasn'tbeen very much.
But he got to stop taking shots.

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And I know you wanted to talkabout Will Levitz.
Let's roll this along, just sowe don't run out of time.
I know you want to talk aboutWill Levitz.
You said that's unprecedented.
The coach is asking him whatthe fuck are you doing?

Well, just how flagrant it was.
He literally took off hisheadset.
Look, tim goes.
What the fuck are you doingafter that?
I don't know what he was doing.
Look back to back weeks two andin the spots too right in that
bears game they were up.
It was the fourth quarter.
All you need to do is protectthe ball and you were most
likely going to win that gameand you had an egregious

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turnover.
Uh, that went to the house.
Too right, that was the tyreekstevenson to the house that was
a pick.
Yeah, pick six when he's in thegrasp and just throwing it away.
Then this week, same exactsituation.
They are in field goal range,they're in a game that's very
winnable against the New YorkJets and he, for whatever reason
, as he's getting tackled, looksand makes a conscious decision

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to flip it between his runningback's leg.
Obviously, guy didn't pick itup, defender gets it.
That's a wrap.
Jets end up winning the ballgame.

They could be 2-0.

They could be 2-0.

They could be 2-0.

Those are the type of things that you look at and
say, had these gone the otherway, we have a great chance of
being 0-2.
So what's his name?
Callahan?
Is that the guy's name?
Yeah, that's Callahan's face.
What's his face, Dude?
He used to coach the Raiders,Callahan yeah.
Bill Callahan.
They said that he sabotagedthat Super Bowl on purpose.

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By the way, you can look up theinterviews about it.
Wait what you never seen.
That Don't derail the pod, Igot it.

Yeah, brian Callahan, yeah, look up Bill
Callahan.
Son of Bill.

Callahan.
Look, look up Bill Callahan.
Look up Bill Callahan tankingthat Raiders Super Bowl.
Remember that Super?

Bowl.
It was crazy, the offensivelineman was with the A's, the
night before the game.

Yeah, it was a crazy Super Bowl.
Anyways, as he's coming off thefield, looks at Will Levis and
goes what the fuck are you doing?
In plain sight on his ass inhis defense, 100%.
It was the right thing to do tosay that to him.
Um, we look at a guy like levisI think there are some.
We talked about it last week.
He's competitive.

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He reminds me a little bit ofbaker.
Right, obviously worked on hisbody a little bit this year.
Came in the, came in the year,looking good, could make some
throws.
You can't do shit like that.
It's unacceptable.
It's unacceptable, doesn't?

matter how good you are.
Yeah, what did we just leave?
The show with Brian Callahanain't got no ties to that man,
will Levis.

No ties to Will Levis at all.
That man will be on the benchby week five if he keeps acting
up like that by week five keepdoing some shit like that, 100%
yeah.

And even if he did, and when I see that type of
tone, it's pretty clear thatCallahan wasn't really rocking
with this dude in the firstplace.

He's like alright, this is the guy I got.

So I gotta go with him.
But yeah, he's like I knew thisdude couldn't play off top and
now I'm seeing it in real lifeNFL snaps.
So it's like, yeah, no.

This is not something I'm interested in.
I think he can play, but shitlike that is hilarious.

No, he can't play.

No, I'm cool, I'm good, we're done, we're cool off
.
Will Levis, are we out?

We're cool off.
Yeah, I'm out.
What Never was in.

Let's move on, Anyway.
Two of the worst turnoversyou've ever seen in your entire
life, man.

Yeah, no question.
Let's move over to calebwilliams and the chicago bears.
We're through two weeks.
Caleb williams looked a lotbetter to me in week two than he
did in week one.
He looked a lot more calm whenhe was able to get something
done.
Where you want to go here,first big nick to quit the, yeah

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, talk to me about his play, thesituation, and then we get,
we'll start rolling on it so wetouched on this a little bit
last week.

His welcome to the nfl moment tried to shake a, try
to shake a dt, looked back up,the guy is still right there in
his face.
Understood.
This league is different.
Right, let's start with that.
This league is different if youlook at those interceptions
that he threw on Sunday night,one in particular I think it was
the second one, I'm sorry, thefirst one where he just kind of
launched it up there.
He thought he had a man openand that window closed faster

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than he could imagine.
That's the NFL.
Right on Saturday, that's atouchdown.
On Saturday, that's a 70 yardbomb.
That's SportsCenter number oneplay in the NFL.
You can't do that.
So I'm hoping that he'slearning from that, right, I'm
hoping that he learned last weekthat these guys are different.
I'm hoping that he learned thisweek that these guys are
different and some of the thingsthat you could do, some of
those flash plays that you wouldtry to make when things break

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down in college, that you can'tdo in the NFL.
So a hundred percent, a lot ofthat is on Caleb.
I'm not, you know, taking awayany blame from him.
He has not played well.
He's looked flustered, but he'slooked like a rookie
quarterback.
This league is different.
On the flip side, what was thestat On 38 dropbacks?
He was pressured 37 times.

I watched Jalen Hurts last night operate out of
a clean top three.
Hold on, let's get the actualnumber just so.
It's not as bad because there'sa difference between total
pressures, like actual players,versus the actual number of
pressures.
So next-gen stats there was 36total individual pressures by 10

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different pass rushers on 48dropbacks, but 23 team pressures
on 48 dropbacks but 23 teampressures on 48 dropbacks.
So still like 40, 45, 47percent of the time.
In other words, when thepressure was coming, it was
multiple people and even when itwasn't coming, you still felt
it that's the thing.

But when you're getting pressure on half of your
dropbacks it doesn't.
Even on plays where there's noone back there, you're kind of
waiting for the other shoe todrop.
You're waiting for somebody tobe back there, so the offensive
line is played atrocious.
You talk about jayden danielstaking hits.
We talk about surroundingrookie quarterbacks with talent.
And look, I love wide receivers, I love running backs.
I think they're fun, they'regreat you need them right.

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But you can go back through thewhat nine years that we've been
doing this show.
I've been banging the samedrums.
You win from the line ofscrimmage Offensive linemen,
defensive linemen.
It's funny.
I was watching the game lastnight with Nikki and she's
trying to get into football,right.
So I was like, hey, if youreally want to understand, you
could watch a football game.

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Just watch the line ofscrimmage, right, watch zero
balls, zero, quarterback, zero,anything for four quarters, and
you could probably tell who wonthe game just by watching the
battle up front.
Right, it dictates so much.
If you watch four quarters ofoffensive line play, you could
watch it.
You could figure out, hey, thisteam probably won because,
either a their linemen wereholding up or, b they were in

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the backfield every single timepressuring the quarterback.

Push-pull.

Yeah, with the Bears they were in the backfield
every single time pressuringthe quarterback.
I don't know who this guy isthat we have at center, but for
two straight weeks we have seenthis guy get bum-rushed up there
.
Caleb has no time.
So when you talk about a rookiequarterback whose processor is
already a lot slower thansomeone who's played years in
the nfl, you have to give himtime.

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You have to give him time now.
With this guy, it's in hisnature to try to make the
fantastic play right.
So it's like a deadlycombination of him not having
enough time plus him thinkingthat he could overcome that by
making crazy plays, becausethat's what he did at us USC
when he wasn't playing around alot of talent.
Those USC teams that he hadwhen we talked about, I think

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only one other guy got draftedon his team those weren't the
USC 2005.
This wasn't Bush and LindellWhite and shout out Lindell
White and Matt Liner than thoseboys running around.
He had this.
This was not that right.
So it's in his nature to try tomake those crazy plays and
you're not helping it by makinghim feel like he has to.

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Also the play calling for twostraight weeks.
I've talked about it.
Shane waldron doesn't know whathe's doing.
I saw that within five minutesof the first game.
Why are we launched?

we're already.
We're already out on shane.

Yeah, I know shitty coordinators.
I've been watching shittycoordinators my whole life.
This guy doesn't know what he'sdoing.
No idea what he's doing.
I'm out.
I was out after the first game.
I was out after the first game.
I was out after third and oneempty sets.
I'm out after third and oneshotgun.

Sometimes you just got to line up and play football
.
This is the thing too, thoughit's always interesting, More
than anything, I think, whenwe're talking about Ibra Fluss
and Shane.
This line is not the fuckinganswer.
You can't do anything if you'regetting pressure.

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The way these guys are allowingpressure, you can't ask Shane,
Cause, like this is the thingtoo, I'm not confident that.
Okay, I hate gun third and oneruns, but I'm not sure if you
stack the bitch up and ran it,they pick it up the one anyway.
So it's it's more of like atalent evaluation thing of if

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you think these guys that youhave up front can play.
That's our number one issue.
First and foremost.
That needs to get sorted.
Deandre Swift has no businessrunning between the tackles 10,
11 times in a game.

That's not his game .
That's why.

Juice Herbert's on the roster though Let him run in
between the tackles.
Get DeAndre Swift the rock out.
In space Zone reads that's whathe did in Philly.
That's where he was impactfulin Philly.
But I mentioned this to Nick onthe phone for everybody
listening and watching.

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We've had a lot of offensivegeniuses come over to Chicago.
Why do they always seem toforget how to call O when they
get here?
Because Shane Waldron got GenoSmith paid, had that Seattle
offense looking solid, youngrunning back looking solid,

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tyler Lockett still getting arock.
Geno got an extension becauseof Shane Waldron and that
offense overall what they weredoing.
This.
The number one issue with theBears right now on offense for
me is the offensive line.
Then we get to Shane Waldron,then we get to Shane Waldron,

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then we get to Kayla Williams.
One thing I noticed that Iwanted to ask you how did the
hey, because this has happened acouple times now DJ Moore, on
misses and incompletions, hasbeen a little demonstrative

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towards I don't want to saydirectly towards Caleb, but
clearly showing frustration onthe field and if you go back and
you remember he was poundinghis chest for Justin Fields to
come back, anything you'venoticed from DJ, or am I looking
too far into some of the thingsthat he'd been doing?

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Cause even Collinsworth calledit out on the back shoulder.
He's like I beat my guy insidefor you.
I left you five yards to theboundary for a back shoulder
throw.
You, threw the shit out ofbounds.
He kind of showed thatfrustration on that.
Miss.

Ripped his, ripped his chin straps off, walked to
the sideline, anything to that Ithink it's very frustrating for
wide receivers to play withshitty offensive lines because
they're just not getting theball.

It's, it's that yeah, there's no time we know.

First of all, look wide receivers.
If they're not catching passes,they're not happy, because most
of them don't do anything otherthan catch passes.
We got some guys that'll block.
You got some guys they'll dosome other things.
But but look, man, I mean theyhave six or seven plays a game
where they matter.
That's about it.
So if you're not getting thosesix or seven plays a game,
you're very upset.
If you're not even getting theball thrown in your direction,

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you're very upset.
Yeah, he might be frustratedwith Caleb.
For sure.
He's wide open, he's doing whathe has to do, but everything
around him is breaking down.
So he's just out there doingcardio.
Um, I don't know if it'snecessarily frustration with
caleb as much as it's justfrustration with the whole
situation.
That is frustrating to watch.
It's frustrating to be a partof.
They were in the back fieldevery single play.

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In addition to that, you'reonly rushing four or five guys,
which means you're dropping sixor seven, right?
So there's not a lot of not alot of space to throw the ball
to.
They didn't need to blitz.
For two straight weeks, teamshave said we can beat this team
one-on-one with our front fouror front five.
That's demoralizing.
Last week the titans didn'tneed to blitz.

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This week the texans didn'tneed to blitz.
So all those blacker blackers,all those backers, corners,
safeties, they're all incoverage.
You wonder why caleb threw thatpick and there's five guys there
?
Because none of them areblitzing.
You don't have to.
You're beating these guysone-on-one.
You're putting pressure rightup the middle.
Look at some of those playsagain.
I don't know the center's name.

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He was backwards all night.
Offensive linemen should neverbe backpedaling.
He was backpedaling all nightand that pressure is right there
in caitlin's face.
So of course he can't make agood throw to dj and even though
we just talked about it, evenon plays where he's not getting
pressure, it's there.
It's inevitable.
Coleman shelton is your internalclock, as a coleman shelton

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should not be playing footballin the nfl.
I'm sorry it's not working foryou.

You got gotta do something else might be a few
cats on that line, nate Davis,that line is Nate Davis is an
atrocity for three years.

He's either not playing due to some undisclosed
reason, or when he doesn't play,he doesn't give effort, and
I'll never forget when we signedhim, they said Vrabel was so
happy to get him off the roster.
I forget who it was.
The quote was Mike V Brablehates Nate Davis.

Yeah, and that's not a guy that you want.
I trust Brable.
I trust Brable.
How about that?

I trust Brable's read on effort he was an effort
guy when he played.
I trust his read and I trusthis read on ground and pound and
all that.
That's what he did in Tennessee.
So if he's looking at a guyhe's like I fucking hate this
guy, I can't wait to get him offmy roster.
And then we bring him over andit's been a disaster since I
mean, some of the film on NateDavis is appalling of a guy just

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not trying not trying to get tothe second level and make
another block.
That's the type of shit where Idon't care if he's your best
guard or when he plays well,he's good, you bench him.
You can't have shit like thatgoing on.
The rest of the team sees that.
So Belichick was talking aboutthis, Like I think we all got so
happy about Keenan Allen, DJMoore, Roma Dunce, DeAndre Swift

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, all these.
None of that shit matters ifyou can't block Period point
blank.
We talked about it with thepatriots for years.
They sacrificed skill positionguys to keep tom brady upright.
That's all that mattered.
And if you missed a block,belichick was putting you on the
bench and you might never playagain and they won a lot of

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games.

Protect the quarterback.

And they won a lot of football games.
I saw Brady win Super Bowls inyears.
They didn't have good receivers.
That last Super Bowl they wonin New England that team was ass
yeah it really was.
Ass had no business winning theSuper Bowl, but you kept your
quarterback upright and thatshit translates in the winter,

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it translates in the playoffsand it translates in the super
bowl.
Protect your quarterback.
I don't know.
I don't know how much more weneed to talk about this.
Rush the quarterback, protectthe quarterback.
We can't do it.

And be able to rush the football, so you could work
off play action and use all thetools that Caleb has in the bag
to be successful.

But you can't run the ball without a line there is
.

I would say there's two quarterbacks right now in
the entire NFL that could dropback and throw it 40 times and
have success without running it,and I think that's Joe Burrow
and Patrick Mahomes.

I think it's Patrick Mahomes, because
Burrow's either going to getteed off that line is.

Yeah, but Joe, I've seen defenses know Joe's going
to drop back every play and himdo what he needs to do.
I've seen it multiple timesover years.
Mahomes the same thing.
Lamar Jackson can't do it.
Aaron Rodgers is too old to doit now.
Like Kirk Cousins had successlast night, because they were

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gashing those boys, b JohnRobinson was gashing those boys.
Play action is in play.
If play action's not in playand you got to drop back and
they know you're dropping back,it's a tough, tough, tough, tall
order for 99% of thequarterbacks in the NFL.
Before we get to Iberflues,nick, I want to Since 2023,.

Patrick Mahomes is the 23rd most sacked quarterback
in the league.
To your point, there's only 32teams.
They prioritize protecting him.

Prioritize protecting him At the expense of
receivers?

Yeah, he does, but listen at the expense of
Receivers last year areprotecting Patrick.
We'll take our chancesprotecting Patrick and he'll get
a Super Bowl.

Correct.
Before we get to Matt Iberflues,I want to say this about Caleb
Williams, the secondinterception where he's under
pressure.
Daniil Hunter almost rips hisshirt from under his jersey.
He spins away, rolls right andtries to find Kemet, but throws

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the interception and isgenuinely shocked that it got
picked off.
He couldn't believe it.
The look on his face was likehow in the world did he get to
that?
Where did that guy come from?
I want Caleb Williams tocontinue to try to make that
play because that is why he's inthe league and that's why he's
gotten there.
He will learn that there'scertain plays that he cannot

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make or cannot throw.
But I actually like the attemptbecause that's what's made
Caleb Williams.
Caleb Williams, that's what'swon him a Heisman Trophy.
He's trying to make a play.
If he rolls out there and justthrows it out of bounds, that's
really not.
That doesn't make him an eliteguy down the road, kyler Murray.

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If he runs around like he didthe other day versus the Rams
and then throws that ball out ofbounds instead of looking
downfield and trying to makesomething happen, we're not
talking about it.
So live by the sword, die bythe sword.
He'll get older and more matureand have more experience and
know what windows he can fitballs into.
But I'm not mad at the throw.
It's picked off.

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He's fighting for his lifetrying to make plays.
I was almost encouraged alittle bit by him letting it go.
It's a bad pick.
It goes down the sheet as a badpick, but I still like the
attempt and the effort and he'llgrow from that live by the
sword, die by the sword.

But you're gonna die every time if you ain't got
no body armor yeah, but but whatI'm saying is this is him
learning, but this is himlearning what windows are what
yeah, that's listen, he's gonna,I have I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not critical of caleb rightnow.
He has not played well, butalso I mean I think he's
learning right.
Like look, I didn't think hewas going to hit the ground

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running, it was going to becrazy.
I agree with that man.
He has to figure out what hecan and cannot do in this league
.
You also brought up aninteresting thing Cole Komet.
I've always heard that a rookiequarterback's best friend is
their tight end.
Why don't we use him?
I thought Cole Komet was areally good player last year for
Justin Fields.
Caught a lot of touchdowns,really good tight end.
You reward him with a contract.
Involve him in the office.

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Five targets on 37 dropbacks onSunday.
Come on, man.
What are we doing here?

What are we doing?
And in some pieces like thatRoma Dunes they got to come down
with that slant in the end zone.
A thousand percent he does Fora big-time wide receiver coming
out of school.
That's an easy catch.

Keenan Allen.
As Keenan Allen last weekneeded to make that touchdown
pass, keenan Allen got to makethat catch.
Yeah, yeah.

There's been a couple conversations on Twitter
about young quarterbacks and JJMcCarthy has the same amount of
touchdown passes as CalebWilliams.
It's like, first of all, I justwatched a man.
I watched our boys drop two TDpasses where he put the ball on
the money.
I actually don't think Caleb isplaying that bad.
I'm actually think with what hehas been dealing with.

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I think actually he's beenplaying solid.

He was good in the first half he was fine.

The whole confidence thing is interesting
because we know how that goeswith quarterbacks.
And if it was, actually, Ican't believe how ironic the
irony of him, in an orangejersey, sitting on the bench and
looking up into the sky,identically the way justin
Fields did in an orange jerseyand I want to say that was a
primetime game as well Like whatin the fucking world is this?

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So that's a long way to go.
We'll see what happens.
Let's move on to Matt Eberflusreal quick.

Easy.
Caleb's always been the bestplayer at every single level.
His athleticism has alwaysallowed him to overcome things
he's realizing in this league.
That's not necessarily the case.
That's fine work with himcoaching staff.

Fill in the blanks, he'll be just fine.

That's it matt iberflues who I am on wax.

You know people.
Hey, this is the United Statesof America.
People rebrand all the time.
Matt Ibraflues had one of themost unbelievable rebrands out
of thin air I've ever seen andhe didn't fool me.
I've been pounding on the tablefor this dude to get fired
forever.
Last year he goes into thesummer and gets a haircut and a

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couple fits and a pair ofsunglasses.
He and then we signed sometalent and Caleb's coming in.
That, of course, has somethingto do with it.
He closed the the summer, goinginto week one of the NFL
regular season, the favorite towin coach of the year.
He went from being fired to thefavorite to win coach of the
year.
He went from being fired to thefavorite to win coach of the
year in a span of four months.

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And, yes, we drafted theHeisman Trophy winning
quarterback and, yes, we added abunch of talent.
Regardless, tyron didn't changehis stripes man.
This guy is not a, he's just nota head coach for me, and every
time I listen to him speak Istayed up late, I listened to

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the press conference.
We can talk about thechallenges.
He never answered.
You know when you ask someone aquestion, nick, and you're
satisfied with the answer andyou're like okay, I have never
been satisfied with an answerthat Matt Ibrahim has ever given
to a question.
Nick, and you're satisfied withthe answer and you're like,
okay, I have never beensatisfied with an answer that
Matt Ibrahim has ever given to aquestion ever.
He doesn't say anything, hedances around things and I'm

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never left feeling invigoratedor confident about where he
stands with the situation thathe's talking about or the team
or anything.
It's almost just like I justshrug and kind of go on and
we'll just see what happens nextweek.
They asked him about thechallenges.
He talked about the process ofhow he gets the, the decision to

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uh confirm if he's going tochallenge it or not.
He said they were high leveragesituations which made him
decide to challenge that.
One was a third down and onewas a turnover.
And they asked him about ittwice.
He confirmed twice that heappreciates the process.
Our process is good.
Clearly it's not good becausethose are two horrific

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challenges that cost you you cansave those spots.
We could have used the timeoutat some point.
Challenges that cost you youcould have saved those spots.
We could have used a timeout atsome point in that first half.
Talk to me about.

Iber Flues overall your feeling and the miracle
rebrand that he somehow pulledoff.
Yeah, I mean, obviously HardKnocks did him a great favor of
just showcasing the wholerebrand and the haircut and how
his wife told him to step hisgame up and you know he's
sitting lakeside out there andhis daughters and his nice and
his nice crib, you know, sittingthere drinking, drinking
cappuccino.
You know they open up hardknocks.
He's having a party at hishouse overlooking lake michigan,

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it's all great.
They make it seem like this guyis like, uh, I don't know, like
the coolest guy on earth.
No, he has no idea what he'sdoing.
The other thing that HardKnocks showed is that he can't
have a conversation with CalebWilliams because he does not
understand offense.
You literally send him down andlike yeah, how do you feel?
Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, allright, yeah, go get him Tiger.
Like the guy has absolutelyzero idea how to communicate

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with his quarterback.
Look, the defense has playedgreat.
If he has his hands on thedefense, I will give him that
Over the last he does 14 games,13 games.
This defense has beenoutstanding.
To start the season this year,this defense has been
outstanding.
I thought the defense wasspecial on Sunday, all things
considered, considering that youwere playing against an

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absolutely elite quarterback.
We can say that about Coleridge,bernard Str, stroud the third,
or whatever his name is, thefourth, the fourth, there's been
three others.
We can say that about elite.
We can say that about Stroud.
Stroud is elite Again, ballplacement, we talked about it.

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This guy is absolutely elite.
Can say that about StroudStroud is elite.
Again, ball placement, wetalked about it, this guy is
absolutely elite.
And to hold him to 19 pointsand really put it in a situation
where that you know they got tocome down and win the game that
the defense played great um.
But that's not head coaching.
To shake off those challengesas high leverage situations, I'm
sorry those cost you timeoutsin a one possession ball game.
Right, neither one of thosewere anything that you should

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have challenged.
The catch by stefan diggs wasright in front of you.
He was five feet from thesidelines when he caught that
ball.
It was very clearly a catch.
The interception same deal.
I saw that in real time.
That's not a pick.
We know that.
You also have someone in yourear who is feeding you this
information, saying that's not apick or that's a catch, and

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then from there you decide tomake that move.
So we're not going to shakethat off as if it didn't matter,
because that's part of headcoaching.
You and I talk about thismultiple times per sunday.
I'll call you and I said youjust see what that coach did in
that game.
That's what it is.
Head coaching is gamemanagement.
So I'm happy that you're ableto run the defense, but can you
manage the game?
It is the most important partof head coaching.

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Mike tomlin hasn't picked up aplaybook in a decade.
Manages the game manages thegame manages the week everybody
knows what they're supposed todo manages the culture.
The standard is the standard isthe standard is the standard.
He still hasn hasn't told youthat Justin Fields is a starting
quarterback.
That's just how we operate.
So listen, that is called beinga head coach man.

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You're responsible foreverything that goes on, and
right now, Matt Eberflus isresponsible for being 11 and 25
as a head coach.
Period, point blank.
I don't care about what theydidn't put around him in his
first year or his second year orany of that.
He was 11-25 as a head coach.
We still have questions abouthis game management and decision
making.
He has zero involvement withthe offense while it's in

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shambles.
Now it's up to you, man.
You can't just hang your hat onthe defense playing well.

Yeah, because you're not a defensive
coordinator.
You're not a defensivecoordinator anymore, you're the
head coach.

And I thought this year he's not calling the
defense right, or is he?
What does he do?
Is he solid?
Is he at the solid level.

I think he's calling some of the D.
I don't know that for a fact.
I should probably dive in andget to the bottom of that, but
he seems to be calling sets on aplay-to-play.
They had nine penalties, thoughfor 60.
The Texans had 12 penalties for115 yards, and we still

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couldn't do anything offensively.
3.1 yards per play on offenseit's absolutely cultured.
It's nothing new, it's the same.

Yeah, it's the same .
So, yeah, he has to take ablame in that man.
You are the head coach.
If you're gonna, it's a 360degree thing.
You got to figure it out.
And again to bring up Tomlin.
I hate to keep bringing this upbecause it makes it seem like I
really love I do love MikeTomlin, but I have watched this
man find ways to win footballgames with no offensive
performance.

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It's possible, right, that ishead coaching.
Tj watt helps.
Tj watt absolutely helps.
That's fine, yeah, but a realhead coach sets a standard.
You have two different types.
If you're gonna be the guy whois managing the building right
and managing the game, but notnecessarily calling shit, then

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that shit has to look great.
You don't watch the Steelersand say, oh man, mike Tomlin
really blew that high-pressuresituation or he made the wrong
call there.
The shit is always buttoned up.
That's what the good headcoaches do.
Ibra Flues is not a good headcoach and he's not the head
coach that you should have withthis quarterback.
We need a quarterback whisperer.

We talked about this and and my and my guess is
that he'll be gone by next yearand then caleb will have to
learn a new system and a neweverything, and we'll find out,
he probably got an extension inthe offseason on the low bears
aren't gonna pay that money onthe low.
Let me go through these reallyquick around the shield, around
the nfl.
I'm gonna try to get throughthese so we could we don't have

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around the NFL.
I'm going to try to get throughthese because we don't have too
much time to get through quick.
Baker Mayfield versus the Lions.
Look, baker Mayfield is here.
I have been critical of Bakerthroughout the years because we
talked about if you're going toshow up and bark and do
commercials and dance for thecameras at practice, you better

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be fucking throwing touchdownson Sundays.
Baker Mayfield wasn't doingthat, he was dealing with the
shoulder.
That was probably a bigger dealthan was made out and I think
that also should be a lesson toa lot of players and people just
watching ball that maybe it'snot worth it to go out there and
try to fight through an injury.
That is hampering you becausethen next thing you know you're

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teetering on being out of a joband out of the league.
That's what Baker Mayfield wasdone.
Salute to Baker Mayfield.
Last two years on third down,he's been one of the best
quarterbacks in the NFL.
I saw it live and in color.
I had a bundle of money on theLions.
He came down and diced thoseboys in every single situation.
So shout out to Baker.
Mayfield Also Deserves what'sgoing to get into him for sure.

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Without question.
Jared Goff.
You beat the Lions bypressuring.
If you get pressure on JaredGoff to this day, still he's one
of the worst quarterbacks inthe NFL.
He he does a light, he panics.
He's been in the league foralmost 10 years.
He still panics when there'sguys in his face he will put the
ball up in the air, he willturn it over.
So that's where we're at onBaker Mayfield in that Lions

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game.
Shout out Baker, continue todeal.
He's doing everything right.
He's down there playingquarterback in Tampa.
He's not talking to anyone andanytime there's a mic in his
face he's just talking about howhe likes to play quarterback
and he wants to get back to itnext week.
That's why Baker is thriving.
Good luck to Baker.
I hope he keeps cooking.
Let's go down to the Kansas CityChiefs.
Mahomes slow start towards thebottom of the league in air

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yards.
Two turnovers against the.
I don't know if it was twoturnovers, but he has two
turnovers to start the year.
Picks Pacheco has a broken leg.
Kansas City Chiefs could easilybe 0-2.
They're 2-0.
Keep an eye on that and howthey keep going.
Big Nick to Quick, because theoffense still looks like it's

(53:23):
sputtering a little bit andPacheco missing is a bigger deal
than advertised.
I mean it just happened, butyou will find out shortly that
that's a bigger deal than itseems.
Ravens 0-2.
Make it quick.
Are you worried?

Yes, Absolutely, because this division is tough.
This division is tough,steelers already 2-0.
Ravens got some issues.
Man, they got some issues.
I would 100% be worried at 0and 2, as I am with the Bengals.

I agree, and it's not even a Lamar Jackson thing.
Could Lamar play better?
Yes, the defense that wascompletely lights out last year
hasn't looked that way this year.
Nope, you can't be giving upspots and back-to-back drives to
the, to the raiders and at home, and give up points and expect

(54:15):
to be competing in an afc.
That is absolutely stacked.
They miss patrick queen.
He's the guy that was withroquan smith, that was running
shit and guess where he ispittsburgh.
So they're, they miss him quitea bit.
Keep an eye on the ravens,we'll see what happens there.
Kyler murray man, he might beback.
Hey, you blow the acl.

(54:36):
You need no call of duty.
No call of duty, kyler murray.
You, you blow the acl.
You need some time to get back.
I need to go.
Well, I'm gonna go watch everysingle throw that Kyler had
against the Rams.
But Orlovsky said it was someof the best tape he's ever put
on film.
He was five for five First halfagainst Buffalo.

He was ridiculous.

He was five for five on passes, 20 plus yards or
more.
Mhj dot number 18.
Ooh has arrived.
Player MHJ.
Player, player MHJ.

R, little R, I'm not even going that far.
First round draft pick of theCardinals.

The funny thing is, no one knows.
I think like half the peopleknow the joke and the other half
don't.
So we're talking about MarvinHarrison Jr.
Whoa, we're talking about, uh,barvin harrison jr but whoa.
So go don't look up why you'renot supposed to say that name
out in public.
But mhj small r 18.

(55:38):
That was him, not me.
The ohio state university him,not me.

Hey look, I'll say this about kyler man.
I watched, uh, I watched thebuffalo game and I watched a lot
of the game this weekend.
Kyler Murray looks great.
I banged my head against a wallfor not taking the Cardinals in
that spot.
If you know me through theyears, I have always backed the
Arizona Cardinals in a spot likethat at home, coming off that
tough loss against Buffalo.

(56:02):
Played really well, playedreally well.
Just Josh Allen was Superman inthe second half of that game
and they were rolling and justan undervalued team, right,
everybody points at last year.
Last year Kyler Murray missed14 games.
This team had zero interest inwinning anything, they were all
over the place.
Of course they looked terrible.
This year, kyler Murray's back.

(56:23):
He's healthy for all at camp.
He has his deal.

Gannon's been working with him um gannon's
good that we, he's good.

I think we came into this year and we probably
missed on.
The cardinals just wrote themoff, um, instead of saying, hey,
maybe, maybe these guys can dosome things.
Now let's see how it goes right, because kyler's done this
before, starts off the year hot,but when shit kind of hits the
rails, I don't.
I just don't think he's a filmguy.
So the problem is, once thefilm is out there on him and
defense starts to adjust, Idon't know if kyler's locking

(56:53):
himself in the room to try to,you know, exploit little
matchups here.
He's just going out thereplaying ball.
Maybe that'll change right,maybe that'll change.
He's matured, he's older now.
He did miss most of the yearlast year.
So, you know, sometimes thatputs shit into perspective.
So we'll see.
But that's a dangerous team.
They've always been a dangerousteam and I've said this forever
.
It is a tough place to play.

(57:13):
I just think guys go out there,you get out.
We both have lived out there.
You get out there a couple daysearlier.
It's a lot going on out therein the desert, so stay tuned.
I'm serious man, like listen,yeah, it's always been that way
out there in that division andthat division has always played
each other tough, so I'm notsurprised they give the Rams a
run for their money and win thatballgame.

(57:35):
But we should have been onKyler Murray.

Stay tuned on Kyler no longer Cliff Kingsbury
running the show Jonathan.

Gannon is there.

Maybe that will change things.

And I got to give one big shout out to the new
orleans saints.
New orleans saints went intodallas and absolutely smacked
them.
Shout out derrick carr, shoutout dennis allen.
Um, the saints team is two andoh, this defense looks
absolutely legit and the offenselooks like it can score some
points.
That might be a team to watchin the nfc south.
Nfc south is shaking out to bea good division, definitely a
team to watch in the south.
They're two, they're 2-0.

Atlanta got a huge W, so they're not back rolling.

Atlanta got a huge W.
Kirk Cousins was rolling lastnight on that game-winning drive
, one of the worst losses I'veseen in a while.
Though you can point tomultiple different things as to
why the Eagles shouldn't havelost that game.
You can talk about the Saquondrop.
You can talk about some of theclock management stuff from
Sirianni.
I don't have a problem with himthrowing it there, because if
he catches it it's a touchdownand the game is over Correct.

(58:32):
But there was a lot of things Isaw, but the defensive coverage
on the next possession whereKirk, literally in five plays,
drive down the field like it wasabsolutely nothing leaves a lot
to scratch the head about, andI'll also push back on this go
down and score the touchdown.

(58:52):
I'm listening to manningbroadcast and payton's like oh,
don't score so fast, kirk.
Eli goes, yeah, but you gottascore the touchdown.
So it's interesting to hear aguy like payton, who knows he
can score, versus a guy like eli, who may have had some trouble
in that situation, saying themomentum's going.
You know what I'm saying.

Saying Of course you can say that baby, Hit it
while you can.
Yeah, hit it while you can.

The momentum's rolling, I don't think there's
any reason you slow down.
You had them on their heels.
You score.
You hope your defense can comedown and get a stop, and that's
exactly what happened.
So, yeah, I think, someinteresting storylines and again
, I'm gonna keep saying it miketomlin and the pittsburgh
steelers are two and oh, justinfields is playing, winning

(59:32):
football.
He is throwing the ball when hehas to.
This team has a good defenseand we understand I know you're
not a believer you wanted miketomlin fired last year, but
don't be surprised if we look upand see this team at 10 and 7
or 11 and 6 you were calling forit after week three last year.

I never said that.
Anyway, hold the tape, watch thefilm.
Speaking of coaching, mattLaFleur ran the ball 53 times
for 261 yards.
When we talk about trying anoffensive mind, having an actual

(01:00:11):
game plan, that's what I'mtalking about.
You knew Malik Willis couldn'tthrow it.
I knew Malik Willis couldn'tthrow it.
Matt LaFleur knew Malik Williscouldn't throw it.
The Indianapolis Colts knewMalik Willis couldn't throw it
and they showed up and ran theball down your throat every
single play and you could donothing.

(01:00:32):
That's the.
That's when we're talking aboutsetting up a game plan that
works with your quarterback inyour situation.
That's what we're talking about.
Shout out Matt LaFleur forputting that together and making
it happen yeah, that's oldschool football 32 carries for

(01:00:53):
Josh Jacobs.

Nick Harvey (01:00:53):
I want you to see the last time a running back had
32 carries.
That is a strong commitment tothe running game, like you said.
Yeah, only 14 dropbacks fromMalik Willis on that game,
though not to flip it.
But Anthony Richardson, whereare we speaking of not being
able to throw the ball?
Splash plays, yeah, I mean it.
But Anthony Richardson, whereare we Speaking of not being
able to throw?

Sean Little (01:01:11):
the ball Splash plays.
Yeah, I mean, this is only whathis sixth game, seventh game,
like he hasn't even played anygames.
So yeah, I mean, we gotta see.

If he was in Carolina he'd be benched.

He got 18.
We'll see we could talk aboutAnt Richardson after 18.
We'll see we can talk about AntRichardson after 18.
We'll come back to it, butlet's close it out.
Big Nick, to quick.
It has to stop.
Lead it off.

Man.
So, yeah, this segment it hasto stop.
We're going to go around theleague, around the sports world,
and talk about a couple thingsthat we are absolutely fed up
with and that have to stop.
I'm going to lead off the showwith something that you and I
have talked about since amazondebuted thursday night football
with their clue of our girl,carissa thompson, shout out.

(01:01:59):
Richard sherman, tony gonzalezand andrew whitworth.
Andrewworth, great playingcareer, Respect him.
You know I talk about oldlinemen.
I love him.
We have to give up the hoodieunder the blazer.
Look, every single week,doesn't?
matter if it's warm out, doesn'tmatter if it's cold out.

(01:02:21):
Andrew Whitworth shows up onset with a hoodie under his
blazer this week, this pastThursday, we reached new heights
he had a bomber on.
You know the bomber jacket.
It was made out of that samefabric that windbreakers are
made out of right.

Yeah, it's like a satin almost.

Yeah, like a satin, almost right it depends on the
beat.
The jacket was okay.
It's nondescript.
He's a nondescript guy.
That's okay.
It's nondescript.
He's a nondescript guy.
That's fine.
Doesn't need to be loud.
Still, had the hoodie on underthe nylon bomber Looked
absolutely terrible.
At this point I feel like he'strolling us.
Andrew Whitworth, the hoodiesunder the blazer absolutely have

(01:03:04):
to stop Bezos.
Whoever it is over there thatneeds to talk to him.
You're on TV.
You know they have access tostylists Someone needs to save
my man.

It's a terrible.

Look, I get it as a big guy.
I get it.
The hoodie is sometimes ashield.
Right, the hoodie is a shield.
We're bigger guys.
We get insecure about certainparts.
Now we might look on TV, Iunderstand it.
It you put the hoodie on, it'slike a security blanket.
I understand.
I understand, as a fellow bigman, that ain't it, though
there's other things that we cansweat.

(01:03:37):
I know why he's doing it I knowwhy he's doing it he's insecure.
It's okay, andrew, I see you,but we gotta do something
different.
Man, holler at my boy, sean,get him right.
Man, send him a CTA.
Here's a couple pieces mixingcombo.
This year it's a terrible lookand it's gone on for far too
long.
It has to stop maybe it's atrademark.

Maybe that's what he's going like.
I haven't seen him with a dealyet someone needs to holler at
him.

Hey, holler at my guy Iguodala.
I know he's got a clothingcompany for big men, like
there's other options out there.

Has to stop.
Anything else before we get outof here, I'm not even going to
do mine just because we got togo.
You got any more.
It has to stop.

Yeah, college football.
Just the merry-go-round ofcollege football Graham Mertz.
Graham Mertz, we watched himsuck at Wisconsin.
Somehow he ends up at a biggerprogram starting in Florida.
Dj Ukulele I know I'm notsaying his name right.
We've watched him suck at threedifferent schools.
Somehow he ends up being thequarterback for a 14-0 team.

(01:04:37):
And the last one is BobbyPetrino.
Gets fired from Arkansas as thehead coach for having an affair
with an intern.
He was given her $20,000 cashgifts.
Gets in a motorcycle accident.
They have him in the pressconference with the halo thing
on.
He's over here lying toofficials saying that he was on
the bike by himself.
Comes out that he was ridingthe bike with this intern.

(01:04:59):
Obviously loses his job.
Miraculously.
I found out on Friday.
Eight years later, bobby Ficinois back coaching as the
offensive coordinator at theUniversity of Arkansas.
Only in college football canyou get fired for sleeping with
an intern and find yourselfright back at the same
university eight years laterwith a hero's welcome.

(01:05:19):
Unbelievable College footballas a whole must be stopped.
Bring down the NCAA.
It's criminal at this point.

It has to stop.

It has to.

We'll leave it there For Big Nick to click.
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