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October 29, 2025 78 mins

The room starts with jokes and shoutouts, then swerves into the kind of conversation you only get when the mics are open and the guard is down. We talk about the shock and fallout of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, the fragile line between free speech and public risk, and why the news cycle feels more like a live wire than a headline. From there, we sit with the unease of a reported campus hanging and how communities process pain when official statements don’t feel complete. Then we confront a disturbing music scene controversy—an artist tied to a teen’s death, a spectacle of caskets on tour, social media as evidence—and ask where the line is between performance and exploitation.

Then the beat changes. Cammy pulls up—artist, producer, and the driving force behind the Carolina Music Video Awards, now in its ninth year. She opens her playbook on building a sellout show: mobilizing talent, vetting videos, recruiting hosts, booking performers like Fabo and Trap Dicky, and doing it all on a budget that rewards hustle over hype. Her voting system puts fans to work for nominations but lets quality decide the win—craft, concept, cinematography, and execution over clout. We get the truth about venues, sponsors, long nights in DMs, and the personal tradeoffs it takes to deliver a real stage for independent artists.

Charlotte’s politics get airtime too. Cammy talks cliques, gatekeeping, and how she refuses to bend to ego or status. The room pushes back with love: be louder about the good, “drop your nuts,” and turn the positivity up so high it drowns the noise. What comes out is a blueprint—protect the mission, lead with receipts, and let the work speak without becoming a spectacle. We close with what to expect Sunday: red carpet times, performances, a tribute to 803 Fresh, and why some categories are awarded offstage to keep the night sharp and respectful.

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SPEAKER_10 (00:25):
Jees, y'a smoke dangerous cooking over the
podcast.
Your boy, see I'm a clay.

SPEAKER_09 (00:33):
No, the guest ain't gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01 (00:35):
I'm in your house.

SPEAKER_11 (00:38):
Switch ain't seen, though.
The dishwash nigga with moreplates in the sink.
If I'm capping, I'm napping, I'mwide awake.

SPEAKER_10 (00:43):
Yeah, all that.
You know, you know he got allthem acronyms, synonyms,
antonyms, verbs, all that shit.
Similes, all that.
That's that's swishing tongue.
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 (00:55):
That's me.

SPEAKER_10 (00:55):
That's swishing.
Shout out my man DJ Polo on theones and twos, on the boot
order.
Yes, yes, yes.
We got a very special guestsitting here on the left of me,
but we're gonna get to herlater.
She's gonna be intertwined withthe show.
We gotta bring her in a noadvisory with no advisory way
later on.

SPEAKER_08 (01:11):
She's hanging out.
Right now, she's hanging out.
We just kicking it.

SPEAKER_10 (01:14):
Just kicking it.
Shout out my man Mel Silas inthe back.
What up, Mel?
Mel.
The best male RB singer,motherfucking Charlotte.
Anybody got a problem?
Come fight me.
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 (01:26):
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_10 (01:26):
Shout out my girl Des.
What up, Des.
She got behind the scenes.
She got the camera and shit.
You know, iPhones and shit isincredible.
So she's gonna be behind thescenes and all that.
That's a behind-the-scenes girland all that.
You know what I'm saying?
Shout out to Katie, right?
Shout out to Katie, BFF Katie.
What up, Katie?
Katie almost fucked it up.
She almost didn't get the cameraright.

(01:47):
You know?
It's okay.
We got it right.
You know what I'm saying?
She almost didn't, but she gotit.
You know what I mean?
Try that girl, throw shorty inthe back.
What up, throw shorty?
Throw shorty in the building.
Even though she ain't got no frotoday.
There's no floor today.
Let's throw shorty in the back.
Throw a shorty in the back.
You know what I'm saying?

(02:07):
Yes, yes, yes.
We got a great show plan fory'all today, man.
Listen, man, we we are we stillare looking for a female host.
You know, we're gonna be lookingfor a female host, personality.
We got some spunk, you know.
Come on, let me hit the DMs.
We got you.
A couple of y'all hit the DMs.
I just didn't like y'all, sothat's why I didn't reply back.
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 (02:24):
Why do what you don't like about them though?
You didn't even meet them.

SPEAKER_10 (02:29):
That's a that's a that's a huge scene.
You ain't like you ain't likehow they're gonna be.
It gotta be a certain way.
If you can't fill that.

SPEAKER_11 (02:37):
What's the criteria?

SPEAKER_10 (02:38):
Let the people so they can know the criteria, you
just gotta be ill with it.
You gotta have it.
If you don't have it, thenyou're not it.
That's it.
You gotta have it.

SPEAKER_11 (02:45):
Give me an example of somebody told.
No, no, no.
If somebody inboxing you and youlike, oh yeah.

unknown (02:50):
I think.

SPEAKER_10 (02:51):
I'ma just look at them and then they ain't it.

SPEAKER_02 (02:53):
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Looks, looks, looks, looks,looks, looks.

SPEAKER_10 (02:58):
A couple of people, yeah.
Like they ain't it.
Yeah, they ain't it.
You know what I'm saying?
It gotta be a certain criteria.
But the criteria, I don't know.
I just when I see it, I'm like,that's it.
You know what I'm saying?
Time shit.
Yeah, time of shit, time ofshit.
All right, somebody won't getthese hot topics and birthday.
Let's go.
First birthday is Jada PickettSmith.
How old is Katie Katie?

(03:18):
Huh?
Katie Katie.
Katie, your birthday.
September 9th?
That was like 30 days ago.
Happy related birthday! We'regonna have to get her, Mike.
Wait, Jada Pickett's today.

unknown (03:31):
Oh, day?

SPEAKER_10 (03:31):
Yes.
God damn, Katie.
What the fuck is she smoking anddrinking on?

SPEAKER_08 (03:36):
How long was she got?
Hey, this little shrooms, nigga.
You ain't take no.

SPEAKER_09 (03:45):
Well, happy birthday, Katie.

SPEAKER_10 (03:50):
Yes, happy birthday, though.

SPEAKER_02 (03:51):
We're gonna get you a mic, though.
We're gonna get you a mic.

SPEAKER_10 (03:52):
Yeah, drink up and shit.
Oh, yeah, let me get a mic, Low,so the um, you know, outside.
People can be can be heard.

SPEAKER_02 (04:00):
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, we don't want you to havea blizz episode.
Yeah, yeah, don't have ablizzard episode.

SPEAKER_10 (04:05):
That was annoying.
He's so loud with no fuckingmic.
Shout out to my nigga Blizzzy,though.
Shout out to Blizzzy.
I love you to death.
She turned 54 years old.
54?
54.
55.
J the pictures.
She still does that red tableshit.

SPEAKER_02 (04:20):
That good skin routine.

SPEAKER_01 (04:21):
She don't think no more.
I don't think she do thatanymore.

SPEAKER_10 (04:24):
Yeah, she had to go after that Will Smith shit with
all Cena.
Yeah, that shit was dead.
Yeah, yeah.
Shout out to Will Smith.
Yeah.
Shout out to Will Smith.
That's a strong motherfuckerright there to be married to
her, man.
Uh Angela Simmons.
Happy brother, Angela Simmons.
Yes.
Yes.
They come down in the den.
Yo, God, he broke up.

(04:44):
They're done though.
Oh, they done.
Is they really done?

SPEAKER_01 (04:46):
I don't think they're done.

SPEAKER_10 (04:48):
I don't think they're done for real.
Yeah, huh?
They broke up.
They broke up.

SPEAKER_02 (04:55):
I feel like he got all his legal shit going on.
So he like, I don't want you tobe in it, so we just gonna be
low-key.
Well, he probably said he's atwar right now.

SPEAKER_10 (05:04):
Yeah, he probably said fucking.
But you know, shout out yourbirthday to Angela Simmons.
38.
And remember, who is this fromPit My Rod?
Who's the main person thatpicked my ride?
Exhibit, happy birthday exhibit!Okay, yeah, he turned 50.
Oh, Angela Simmons, she turned38, by the way.

unknown (05:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (05:18):
Exhibit turn older than me.
Half a century plus one.
Half a century plus half acentury.
Um 51.
Thank you, Mel Silent.
He did the math.
Or else Polo.
Polo did the math.
51.
Yeah, half a century.
51.
Yeah, 51.
See, he got a lot of money.
Polo got it.
You ain't catch it.

SPEAKER_02 (05:40):
But Polo caught it.
I did I didn't catch it.
I'm done.
Drop the polo, you small.
I had a damn moment.
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_10 (05:45):
You did that math.
That math was math in his headright there.

SPEAKER_02 (05:48):
Half a century class one.
That's an ism right there.

SPEAKER_07 (05:51):
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_10 (05:52):
Polo got it.
You turn 51.
Huh?
Who got the trip in?
Me?
But Polo got it.

SPEAKER_09 (06:05):
Listen, this this doesn't account for the shrooms
and smokers.

SPEAKER_10 (06:09):
If you're on shoes, if you smoke you on drink, you
ain't gonna catch it becauseyou're gonna sit there and be
like, I knew the answer to that.

SPEAKER_02 (06:15):
That was a funny part.
Mad problem.

SPEAKER_10 (06:18):
Yeah, in the middle of a podcast, mad problem is
what we do.
Ass, happy birthday to all y'allold motherfuckers.
Happy birthday, y'all.
But not um Katie, Katie, youyoung.
Right, Katie?
You 55?

unknown (06:28):
No, I'm 29.

SPEAKER_10 (06:29):
Oh shit.
She almost 30.
You old now.
Once you hit that age, you likeuh look it though.
That's it.
Black don't crack.
Black don't crack.
There you go.
Huh?
Huh?
Is that what?

SPEAKER_02 (06:46):
Oh, you 292 froze?

SPEAKER_10 (06:48):
Hey, 29 gang, 29 gang.

SPEAKER_02 (06:50):
You said you said you 25.
She said you're 20.
Hey, you made a blush.
Shout out to the blush, youcame.

SPEAKER_10 (06:57):
I mean, shout out to blush and froze shorty.
He made a blush.
She is fine.
So she you know when somebodyblush when they don't open their
mouth when they laugh, they'llgo.

SPEAKER_02 (07:03):
And still light up the room.
That's the blush thing.
Still light up the room.
Jesus.

SPEAKER_10 (07:08):
Hey, as it gets hot topics, man.
So, man, one of the biggest hottopics uh that's going around
um, I think happened last week.
Um, what's his name?
Charlie.
Charlie Kirky passed away.
Well, he got assassinated.
Let's put that in in the in theframe.
Umless they can't.
Right, see, white people, theycould be 19 and they 55.

SPEAKER_03 (07:30):
Exactly.
It's crazy.
35 and they could be 18, 17.
That's right.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_10 (07:36):
No, no, no, that's the complete opposite.
You're wrong.

SPEAKER_03 (07:39):
Oh, see, black people, we be looking at the old
people.

SPEAKER_10 (07:41):
No, she said what she said, she said they look
old, but they could be 19.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's what you said?

SPEAKER_03 (07:46):
Oh we be looking literally like 20.

SPEAKER_10 (07:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (07:51):
And we be like 30.

SPEAKER_10 (07:53):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (07:53):
Yeah, black people.

SPEAKER_10 (07:54):
You gotta cut her mic off.
Yeah, cut her mic off.
You gotta cut her mic off.
Tell her Nick.
They got one?
Oh.

SPEAKER_09 (08:03):
Unless you do it.
That's your you can put on theshirt.

SPEAKER_08 (08:08):
Unless you do it.
Unless you do it.
Let's get into the topic.

SPEAKER_09 (08:15):
Yeah, I guess I told you.
Restarted her.
We started Katie.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (08:24):
Alright, hot time is big.
Yeah, so we like what's saying,Charlie Kirk, man, he got
assassinated last week.
Was it last week?
He got assassinated.
Um, yeah, about the age of 31,man.
It's crazy.
You know, it was a lot of uproaron social media about um not
only his passing, but hispolitical views.
You know, he had the left andthe right as they was just all
up in arms, you know, talkingabout, well, this, that, and the
third.
I don't want to get into itbecause I'm not a politic type

(08:46):
of person.
And it goes.

SPEAKER_02 (08:48):
I didn't know he I didn't know he existed on planet
Earth until he got.
Absolutely.
I didn't know him.
Never heard of him.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (08:56):
Never heard of him.
My whole thing is a man.
You heard about Charlie Craig?
I said, who?

SPEAKER_10 (09:00):
He did 20 V1s with the politics students.
Uh we can't hear you though,bro.
You need a mic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, and I'm gonna talk aboutthat too.
Go ahead, man.

SPEAKER_07 (09:09):
Yeah, but he does he does the 20 V1s like uh with
with uh all the students whostudy uh law and politicians, uh
you know, things like that withthe government.
Uh that's basically what he uhwas going big for.
Them had millions of views onhim.
He was like a guest on it, youknow, but it it kind of got like
popularized around him becausethere's a lot of other people
that do it, you feel me?

(09:30):
A lot of different figures, buthe was just one of the main ones
that was like I don't know, theycouldn't take him down or
something, you feel me?
And a debate.
That's basically what you knowhe got big off of.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (09:40):
You know, I mean, you know, again, it was an
uproar, and you know, uh hispolitical views obviously didn't
align with a lot of people'spolitical views or ideologies,
and uh, you know, that's okay.
That's okay, but for him to losehis life over that, uh, you
know, that's that's that wasunfair to him and the people
that, you know, looks up to himand and and watches him.

(10:02):
Um so you know, rest in peace tothat man.

SPEAKER_02 (10:04):
We gotta understand though, like politics is just
like gang man.

SPEAKER_10 (10:09):
It damn sure is.

SPEAKER_02 (10:10):
Like, it's getting that real because these niggas
that's doing the the shooting upthe supermarkets and all this
other shit, that's all likepolitical and shit.
Like that's all somebody havingbeliefs and die hard about it on
some kamikaze shit.
You feel me?
Like, this shit is like if you apolitician, you need to have arm
security, a bulletproof vest.

(10:30):
And you actually have a bigthing.
You gotta move like a rapper anda game banger, bro.
Like, did you see how that shitlooked?

SPEAKER_10 (10:37):
Yeah, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 (10:38):
I was like, damn.

SPEAKER_10 (10:41):
And just for it to be captured live like that, is
gonna resonate with not onlypeople that follow him, but just
everybody that watched.
You know, you watch the liveassassination.

SPEAKER_02 (10:52):
So did the nigga shoot through social media.
He shoot through the coat.
Like, how do you not seesomebody shoot a shotgun?
Nah, it wasn't a shotgun.
He got sniped.
The dude who shot him said, Igotta get my dad's shotgun back.
I gotta get my dad's shotgunback.

SPEAKER_10 (11:03):
No, that was a you can't shoot a shotgun from that.

SPEAKER_02 (11:06):
He had the scope on that thing.
He said the shotgun gun.
No, that wasn't a shotgun.
He said the scope cost twobands.
Yeah, because look how far awayhe was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shotgun, nigga.
Shotgun.
That's shot shit.

SPEAKER_08 (11:15):
That shit ain't gonna make it nowhere near over
there.

SPEAKER_01 (11:17):
But my thing is everybody knows that right now
we're really in some sensitivetimes.
Yes, absolutely.
So you can't just be going.
I mean, you can if you, you knowwhat I mean?
But just expect that that comeswith consequences.

SPEAKER_02 (11:28):
They tried to kill Trump twice.
It's not the fuck.

SPEAKER_01 (11:31):
Yeah, shut Trump!

SPEAKER_02 (11:33):
Ain't nobody safe.
Ain't nobody safe.
And Jimmy Kimmel got canceledfor saying that.

SPEAKER_10 (11:38):
Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel got canceled.
And I saw it because I was Iwanted to, you know, know what I
was talking about.
You know, he didn't say nothing.
All he did was referencesomething that President Trump
said.
You know, it was like, oh, well,you know, I don't want to say it
because I don't want to getcanceled, guys.
But yeah, fuck it, cancel me.
Um, so we can get popping.
Trump made that call.

SPEAKER_01 (11:54):
He said, dude, you ain't Trump.
You ain't me.
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he didn't say nothing.
He can't just be saying shit.

SPEAKER_10 (12:00):
He didn't say nothing.
No, I don't order that.
You know, and he's a he's acomedian.
You know, he used uh it wasn'tlike he made up some shit and
spun something around which putout false uh narratives out
there.

SPEAKER_01 (12:12):
No, he says something that's like I said, we
in sensitive times crazy.

SPEAKER_10 (12:17):
Freedom of speech ain't free no more.
What do you say, Switch?
It ain't gonna be no more Trumpjokes.
Ain't no Trump jokes?
Shit, I'm gonna I'm gonna talkabout Trump.
I don't give a fuck.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't care.
If you voted for Trump, that'son you, but I ain't gonna say
it.

unknown (12:29):
But yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (12:31):
And it's crazy that his last words was he's like
counting or not counting gangviolence.
After that, about a um, it was aquestion that was asked about
gang violence, and he saidcounting or not counting gang
violence.
Bam! So his last words was aboutgang gang violence, and he was
an advocate about gun violencein the Second Amendment.
And, you know, he was like, hedidn't care.
Pretty much saying, you know, ifyou live by the gun, you die by

(12:52):
the gun.
And that was his words that hespurred into the world.

SPEAKER_01 (12:55):
And look, somebody in the audience wasn't having
it.

SPEAKER_10 (12:58):
Nah, yeah, he was on the roof or some shit.
But rest in peace, man.
He knows he had a family, had adaughter.
Rest in peace, man.
Charlie Kirk, man.
Um, no, no, no.
I don't give a shit.
All right.
Next side topic.
Oh, this is wait, this is thewhole same shit?
Okay.
Huh?
No, I'm leaving it.
This is all the same shit.

(13:18):
Johnny Kimball.
I don't want to talk about that.
Okay, I don't want to talk aboutthat.
Okay.
So on Monday.
Huh?
It was like all the same shit.

SPEAKER_05 (13:26):
Ain't nothing left on it.

SPEAKER_10 (13:27):
Huh?
I know, no, we good.
Yeah, we got it, we got that.
So on Monday, September 15th, abody was found hanging from a
tree.
I heard about that.
The guy at Delta Um StateUniversity.

SPEAKER_01 (13:36):
That's what they was talking about on the shade room.

SPEAKER_10 (13:38):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, he's found hanging from atree.
Um, some some was suspectingthat it was foul play, but it
wasn't actually, I guess whenthey did the autopsy, the
finance, they said it wasn'tfoul play.
Um, yeah, that's what they'resaying.
It wasn't.
I mean, I guess it's like as faras his body parts, because some
people were saying he got beatup, he had broken bones and
stuff like that, but it was noneof that.

(14:00):
He just got hung.
You know, um, yeah, they saidexactly.
Exactly.
Um, uh, but give her a mic,because we can't hear her.

SPEAKER_03 (14:22):
If a black person is going through mid there, I'm not
saying I know, you feel me?
Because you don't never knowwhat people going through, but
at the same time, I feel likepersonally, why would he do it
on display?
I personally feel like it wasjust a per a careful person,
just like that dude that gotwrapped in the mat, that boy
that got wrapped in the mat atschool, they know good and well

(14:46):
that boy Daddy was an FBI agentand took all his organs out.
It just fell in the mat, hewouldn't be, his head wouldn't
have been busted.

SPEAKER_02 (14:55):
And if he had a carpet, he would have been
busted.

SPEAKER_03 (15:00):
So as far as just people are, they just getting
more careful.
That's all it is, too.

SPEAKER_10 (15:06):
Well, the authorities reported, like I
said, the authorities reportedthere was no foul play.
Um, they said the family of theguy named Trey Reed, the family
of Trey Reed said the policetold him that he passed away in
his dorm.
So I'm like, how do you, youknow, the guy how in the dorm?
Yeah, how they correlate.
No, no, he was he was he in thedorm?
No, no, he wasn't in the dorm.

(15:26):
He was outside.
Um, but they said that he passedaway.
The Doherty told the family thathe passed away in the dorm.
Yeah, it was a tree of the dorm.
But they said he passed away inhis dorm.

SPEAKER_01 (15:35):
So they saying that he did it to himself or somebody
did it to him.

SPEAKER_10 (15:38):
They they they still investigating it.
They don't, you know, becauseobviously somebody gotta take
you, put you up there.
That's not even funny.
You ain't hanging out.

SPEAKER_02 (15:45):
How the fuck you hang yourself and die in the
dorm?
Like that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (15:49):
But that's what they'll put it on five days from
now, they'll be like, oh, he didit himself.

SPEAKER_10 (15:55):
And they said um there was reports that he was
being um assaulted on socialmedia.
They say that wasn't true.
So it was a couple of things.
They said a couple of studentsthey seen Trey on Sunday night.
He was in a heated discussion onthe phone, and he looked upset.
So they still still underinvestigation.
So it's a lot of things.
There was a there's another guy,uh, yeah, he got hung about two,
three years ago.
Um, that story came out.
I forget the name of that kid,but I remember that too.

(16:17):
Yeah, so it's like, you know,you know, these hangings, man.
I don't know.
They try to make it raciallycharged, but we don't know.
Like I said, they're stillinvestigating, but you see a
black man getting hung, youautomatically think some white
man or you know, you know.
Um what's that old schoolmethod?
Oh I'm not laughing at that.
Well, they didn't hear him,yeah.

(16:38):
They didn't hear what he said.
So yeah, man, man, rest inpeace, man.
Um Trey Reed, man.
That's that's crazy.
Like, you know, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_09 (16:48):
Uh oh.
RP Trey Trey.

SPEAKER_10 (16:50):
Phone drop, phone drop.
Who the hell is this?
Um right there.
Oh, so did y'all hear about theum the RB singer?
What's his name?
Dali Callie, what's his name?
Cali Uches?
That's his name.

SPEAKER_02 (17:04):
That's a girl, Cali.
That's a girl.

SPEAKER_10 (17:07):
He's talking about D V, D four, and B D.
Yeah, D for D.
Yeah.
David, that's his name, David.
Yeah.
Why the fuck is spelt thatthat's a little bit more?

SPEAKER_04 (17:15):
Callie spelling that uh feature on her song.
And she said, all the songs withhim, like he's doing it.

SPEAKER_10 (17:24):
Give it a mic.
Good.
Don't do this shit.
What she said.

SPEAKER_03 (17:32):
He also doing concerts with caskets, and he
got a tattoo of the 15-year-oldgirl that they sing.
Yes, like that is crazy.
Wow.

SPEAKER_04 (17:42):
Like, it's a um it's a video of her laying in a
casket.
I don't know if it's like layingin a casket.
Laying in a casket with bloodover her.
She's wearing a white dress.
This is fake?
No.
Like a video, like music.
Yeah, he's on tour right now.
Because I was confused.
I don't even know who he was.

SPEAKER_03 (18:01):
Me neither, because TikTok, yeah, me too.
I ain't never heard a song.
I literally been on TikTok and Ibe so invested.
So I seen a 13-year-old girl uhwhen she was 13, she went
missing lesson.
Why are you talking to a 14 yearold?
Let's start there crazy.
But yeah, they got the samematch of tattoos, and then it's

(18:21):
videos of him pushing her outthe video.
And then he's having he's ontour right now bringing caskets
to his tour.
Like, yeah, he's letting peoplecome and write letters to the
deceased like he's having afilm.
That is weird.

SPEAKER_10 (18:41):
Like we're so they said they said that body was
found, you know, in his rental,I guess, and registered in his
name in the town.
No, in his own car.
Um, they said they responded toa foul odor out of Hollywood tow
yard.
They discovered a decomposedbody wrapped in a bag, which is
later identified as Celeste.
So her name was Celeste RivasHernandez.
She was 15.
Uh, she was found missing onApril 4th, and she was 13 at the

(19:02):
time in California.
That's crazy.
So they know, like I said, shehad a matching tattoos and a
song named after her.
Um right now they say it's not ahomicide investigation, but
obviously all the roads leaddown to David.
So they pretty much sooner orlater gonna be like, okay,
buddy, you know, we tried, butuh we need to bring her in, you
know.

(19:22):
They say he's cooperating withpolice and authorities and
everything like that.
Um, but it, you know, it's justtoo much.
And social media has them ispowerful.
So they're gonna look on socialmedia and be like, uh, uh, uh,
uh, all right, David.
Let's go, buddy.
Like, we need to uh dig deeperinto this situation.
You know what I mean?
So no arrest, they no arrest wasmade as of yet.
So um, you know, David right nowis on tour with caskets and

(19:45):
shit.
Uh he's on tour with caskets andshit.
That's crazy.
Unbelievable.
And then that happened.
Unbelievable.
Wow.
Unbelievable.
Rest in peace to her, man.
But yes, we got a very specialguest on the left of me.
Hold on, let me uh let me goright here and put this on here
so I can make sure that I got itright.
Uh let me put this down.

(20:06):
Let me do it one more time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sometimes, sometimes the boydon't be cooperating with me.
It's like I do it again.
So we got a very special gueston the left of me.
If y'all don't know, y'all gonnafind out who she is right after
I do this spill.
She got a very big event comingup on Sunday that we're gonna be

(20:28):
covering, by the way.
No advisory.
So let the people know threethings.
No advisory style.
Who you are, where you're from,and what the fuck you do.

SPEAKER_01 (20:38):
Well, thank you so much for asking.
I'll definitely let them know.
My name is Cammy, I'm fromMiami.

SPEAKER_05 (20:46):
Okay, yes, indeed.

SPEAKER_01 (20:49):
And I am an event planner.
Um, and I do my own events, andI have a huge award show coming
up this Sunday that I'm trulyexcited about.
Definitely got some heavyhitters with it.
But I'm literally over 300events in, and I just love the
events.

SPEAKER_10 (21:05):
Oh, hold on, man.

SPEAKER_01 (21:09):
What you doing then?
Thank you.
Anywhere from festivals, music,comedy, fashion, you name it,
I've done it.

SPEAKER_05 (21:16):
Absolutely.
Okay.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_10 (21:17):
I've long, I've I've known you for how long now?
Oh my god.
I've known you for about what?
We don't talk about that, but Iknow you for quite a long time.
Yes.
You know, let me tell y'all,man, before we get into it, she
cooks some mean like vegandishes and all that.
Like, I've been coming to hergetting some food for a minute.
Like y'all think she's a ventplanner, yeah.
AKA cook.

(21:38):
Yeah, let them know, cook.

SPEAKER_01 (21:40):
Chef Camille.
Yeah, cool, cook, cuckoo.

SPEAKER_09 (21:43):
Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 (21:45):
I thought she was like, vegan and non-vegan food.
Yes, I throw down.
You gonna come.

SPEAKER_02 (21:52):
You gonna come bring us like uh some food one day?

SPEAKER_01 (21:54):
I definitely will.
Yeah, why you ain't set that up?

SPEAKER_10 (21:57):
Because it wasn't about Chef Kimmy, it was about
the wars tonight.
Yeah, you know, so she wasn't inthat element.
I just had to bring it upbecause some people may not
know.
Still gotta salute black women.

SPEAKER_01 (22:07):
Thank you.
Absolutely.
I know.

SPEAKER_10 (22:12):
I be hungry and shit.

SPEAKER_02 (22:13):
The last episode we had um steps and had another
episode, and that that fool wasjust he was over.
Oh, you do trips.
Did you like it?
Oh shit.
You tell him because you'rebringing us on?

SPEAKER_01 (22:23):
Oh, I got the I got the meals, you got the sweet.
Look at that.

SPEAKER_08 (22:27):
Good for Mills and Sweet Connect.

SPEAKER_01 (22:31):
Now we just gotta decide vegan or non-vegan.

SPEAKER_02 (22:34):
Non-vegan, thank you.

SPEAKER_10 (22:35):
I took both for me.
I take both.
Let's get down to the awards,man.
So is this Sunday?
Let the people know about theawards, what's going down this
Sunday?
I'm gonna let you know.

SPEAKER_01 (22:46):
Yes, so it is the ninth annual Carolina Music
Video Awards.
We sell out every single year,and this year will be no
different.
Red carpet is from four to six.
The award ceremony starts at6:30, ends at 9:30.
So I ain't gonna keep you theretoo long.
Just a little three hours.
But we got everybody comingthrough, and I am so excited for

(23:09):
this year's show.
We're talking about 803 Fresh.
I'm gonna have some line dancesout.
They're gonna be stepping,they're gonna be getting it in
with the fans.
So get ready to pop your fans.
I got Trap Dicky, you know he'sgonna turn up.
So I got him coming out there.
He's actually gonna beperforming live.
So you already know that's gonnago crazy.
I got Fabo, you know he's gonnabe geeked up coming out there to

(23:32):
do it.
Yes, yes, all that yelling.
But you know he's gonna go crazywith it.
So it is a huge, huge, hugeyear.
Um, I've had probably over ahundred music videos this year.
We celebrate all genres ofmusic: rock, pop, RB, you name
it, we got it.
Um, people just submit theirmusic videos into me from all

(23:54):
over the world every year.
And um, their videos just beamazing.
It's incredible to see theseartists' creativity and how far
they could take it.
So um sometimes it's hard likethis year, I will admit, it it
was hard deciding on who's gonnawin.
This was a tough competition.

(24:16):
How do you do the um the voting?

SPEAKER_10 (24:18):
Because uh there's a lot of different platforms and
awards shows out here.
Um I feel like like sometimestheir votings can be flawed in a
way.
So um explain to the people thatdon't know how do you do your
voting system with the with theum music awards.

SPEAKER_01 (24:34):
So my voting system is very different because I just
don't give it to you.
You gotta earn it.
You gotta earn it over here.
So people submit their musicvideo submissions to me.
Um once that deadlineapproaches, they have to vote to
become nominated.
So just because you submitted itdoesn't automatically make you a

(24:56):
nominee.
Like most shows, and you see allthese thousands be, oh, I got
nominated.
No, that's not over here.
Exactly.
So once you submit your video,you have to vote to be you have
to get everybody that you knowinvolved to help you vote to
become nominated.
And then once nominations aredone, I look at who has the

(25:21):
highest number of votes.
Highest number of votes.
Those highest number of votes iswho I show on a big screen at
the theater.
Because I can't show everybody'svideo.

SPEAKER_06 (25:34):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (25:34):
And just because you're nominated doesn't mean
you're gonna hit that bigscreen.

SPEAKER_06 (25:37):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (25:38):
You gotta put some work into them votes.
Because the reason why I do itthat way is because of
cross-promotion.
You gotta promote the show justlike I'm promoting your video.
Right.
Everybody who submits a video tome, I put it on the page.
Now, some videos I can't put onthe page.

(25:59):
But for the most part, I willput it on the page.

SPEAKER_02 (26:01):
What can't you post?
Like weed and all that otherstuff, weed and too much booty
shaking and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 (26:06):
Sometimes it's videos that get submitted to me
and they're just not in the bestof quality.
And I gotta be mindful of what Ipost because I gotta keep my
page and my brand of quality.
Absolutely.
You know what I'm saying?
So without knocking too much,but um I I do that because when
you're trying to build a brand,you gotta be mindful of

(26:29):
everything.

SPEAKER_02 (26:30):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 (26:30):
Everything that you post.

SPEAKER_02 (26:32):
But you know, you know, some videos now they're
using a VHS like um editing andall of that.
It looks like old school videos.
Like a lot of the real popularpeople are using it.
Would you still not want to usethat in?

SPEAKER_01 (26:46):
I would still want to use that because to me it's
all about creativity too.

SPEAKER_02 (26:50):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (26:50):
So when I say quality, I just don't mean how
it appears.
I'm talking about everything toa T.
Not only how it appears, but thecontent, the the creative
content that you put into it,um, from the writing to just the
overall production.
That's what I look at.
You know what I mean?
And if that's not there at all,I mean, like, I done got videos

(27:12):
where it's like who shot that?

SPEAKER_08 (27:16):
iPhone 35,000.

SPEAKER_01 (27:19):
But even on the creative end, it's like, what
were you thinking?
Were you high when you did that?
Like, you know what I mean?
So it's like you really have tobe mindful of what it is that
you post and what it is that yousubmit.
Like, as an artist, you shouldreally want to tap into your
creativity on the visual aspect.
You done put all this work intothe song itself, you gonna lack

(27:39):
on the video?
What you do the song for?
So anyway, so, anyways, um, sothey go through that voting
process, and then like I said,the highest number of votes gets
shown on the big screen.
Um, but again, just because youhave the highest number of
votes, that doesn't mean thatyou win.

(28:00):
You may have in your perspectivecategory, you may have 3,000
votes, and somebody else mayhave 2,000, but because of their
actual quality in that video,they're gonna beat you.
You get what I'm saying?
And then on top of that, the thetwist that I have with that is
just because you're actuallyshown on the big screen because

(28:25):
you had the highest number ofvotes, the person over here that
may not be shown a big screen,but they're still nominated,
they can still compass it.
It's all about quality, man.
Quality, quality over quantity.
Because I don't never wantsomebody to be like, oh, that
person only got it becausethey're popular or because they
got this or they cut got that.
I don't want it to be aboutthat.
My show not about that.
You got to work for everythingin the show.

SPEAKER_10 (28:50):
What the fuck she said.
Quality over quantity.
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (28:53):
Trash ass motherfuckers and a lot of
artists they don't like myprocess, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_10 (29:00):
Listen, and it makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 (29:02):
Definitely makes sense.
Definitely makes sense.

SPEAKER_10 (29:04):
I respect the process.
Like you said, you've been doingit for nine years, right?
So let them know how hard it isjust to do it for a year.
Because it's a very difficultand tedious process to put on an
actual music video award show.
And I've been a couple of them.
Shit's, let me tell you now, itain't no rinky dink shit.

(29:26):
You ain't gonna come there.
It's like, oh shit, nigga, like,yeah, let me go in the car and
go ahead and go get a suit rightquick.
Cause shit be like that.
You know what I'm saying?
It ain't like how we're gonnatalk about it too.
I'm pissed with some shit.
But um, it ain't like that.
You know what I mean?
So just let them know theprocess, just getting this
together, getting the acts,getting, you know, actually the

(29:50):
plethora of nominees coming in.
Let's let them know thatprocess.

SPEAKER_01 (29:54):
It is a process, it is a headache, but I love it.
Um, just to let y'all know,because a lot of people don't
know this.
I started out as an artistbefore all of this.
My love comes because I was anartist.
You be ready because singing andrapping was in choirs coming up,

(30:15):
everything.
Even in college, was in the agospel choir at college.
But also rapping, but alsorapping as well.
So I started this whole journeyas an artist.
So when I say that I understandwhat y'all are going through, I
understand what y'all are goingthrough.
That's why I don't charge a lotto perform.

(30:35):
That's why I don't charge a lotfor this.
That's why I don't charge a lotfor that and all the skill sets
that I have because I do thisfor as a passion.
And I always tell artists everyday, don't give up.
And the reason why I say that isbecause don't give up like I
gave up.
I say that because I gave up.
So when I exactly, so when I saykeep going, I mean keep going.

(30:57):
Because I didn't keep going.
I ended up going a whole notherdirection.
But I spilled that to y'allbecause I gave up, and sometimes
I wish I didn't give up.
I miss being in the studio.
I miss recording.
I miss this and that.
You can still do that, though.

SPEAKER_02 (31:11):
You can still do it.
You still right there.
You still right there.

SPEAKER_01 (31:17):
Ghostface.
Nah, it's all these OGs.
But I got into this because Istarted out as an artist.
And then I started workingbehind the scenes at major
companies.
So I worked for Fox News,Nickelodeon, The Home of the
Time, Join a Morning Show,Disney, some of everything and
everywhere.
And then I got into managingartists, and then from there I

(31:40):
said, you know what?
I want to do events.
And I started doing events inMiami, and then I took it all
the way up and I'm here.
So I done had just about everycelebrity come through, every
record label come through, youname it, I done had it at my
events.
And I just love doing events.

SPEAKER_02 (31:57):
See?
You went to business school forthis?
Or did you just like start likepro bono?

SPEAKER_01 (32:03):
Honestly, um, I got my master's degree from Troy
University and management.
In management with aconcentration, leadership, and
organizational effectiveness.
That's what my master's.

SPEAKER_02 (32:19):
You putting it to full effect.

SPEAKER_01 (32:22):
But no, like I said, I just love the industry.
I got family that's in theindustry, and we talk all day
about stuff, and I just love theindustry.
That's why I'm in it.
But to answer your question infurther depth, it is a process.
You gotta spend days in, nightsinto this.
I be hitting up artists likecrazy sometimes, nine o'clock in

(32:45):
the morning, two o'clock in themorning.
Three o'clock in the morning,just in their DM.
Hey, you want to do this?
Hey, I got this coming up.
Hey, da da da.
And it's just a grind.
Like, you think I just got themvideos just because, like, no, I
had to put it out there and itcame.

SPEAKER_10 (33:00):
Absolutely.
And I know because, you know,I'm doing training day CLT and
just dealing with artists, andyou know, there's a lot of like
trash out there.
I'm just gonna I'll keep it abuck.
A lot of trash, right?
So, like, what was the worstvideo that was submitted to you?
Don't even you don't have to saythe artist's name.
I I would say it if it was me,but who was the worst video that

(33:21):
you ever got?
Like, why the fuck would yousubmit this bullshit?

SPEAKER_01 (33:24):
It was so bad I can't remember.
I'm the type of person whereit's out of sight, out of mind.
Once you gone, I can't remembernames.
I can't remember what happened.
Out of sight, out of mind.
But it's definitely been a fewover the last few years.
Now I just be looking like, whatin the world, D Lee?

SPEAKER_05 (33:46):
What did I just watch?

SPEAKER_01 (33:50):
But yeah, man, like at first, you know, you gotta
promote that the year's comingup, you gotta promote the music
video submissions, then yougotta get your vendors, you
gotta get your sponsors, yougotta just do the whole shebang.
And I'm so used to doing itevery year and with all of the
events that I've done in thepast that it's just second
nature to me right now.

(34:11):
Like, I just be going, trying toconnect with everybody, get
everybody together.
I just the process is a love andhate type of thing.
But then once I'm actually thereat the show and I see that I
done got all these people in onebuilding, it's just an amazing
sight to see.

SPEAKER_10 (34:28):
Absolutely.
Go ahead, Swesh.

SPEAKER_02 (34:31):
Um, what was I about to say?

SPEAKER_05 (34:32):
I was about to ask you like it.

SPEAKER_09 (34:37):
I didn't want to overshadow you.
I was like, I was trying tocatch you.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (34:43):
How do you pick your videographer for your event?
Because you record your event,I'm assuming.
So how do you decide, okay,who's gonna shoot for you?
Or who is your videographer foryour event?

SPEAKER_01 (34:52):
I mean, honestly, um, with all of the videos that
I just received over the years,I've also built relationships
with the differentvideographers.
So I see whose work is what, andthen I go from there as far as
who's gonna film the show.
So, yeah, that's how I do itreally.

SPEAKER_10 (35:10):
Now, I know you you know you've been doing it for
nine years, and uh there's a lotof artists that you have, you
know, come across.
Um, obviously you got the babywho's technically not from
Charlotte, but he repsCharlotte.
Um, so they look at the baby asthe face of Charlotte as music
is concerned.
What is that one artist thatthat you saw that that came and

(35:33):
you're like, yo, they gonna bethat next one, but they didn't
pan out.
Who's that artist?

SPEAKER_01 (35:39):
Dang, can I plead the fifth?

SPEAKER_10 (35:41):
Nope.
Nope.
I mean, listen, it's just it iswhat it is.
It's just sometimes sometimesthey don't pan out.
No?
Who's that artist?
I'm pleading the fifth.
No, you cannot plead.
Listen, every time somebodypleaded the fifth, I tell them.
You see that name?
No advisory podcast.

SPEAKER_05 (36:04):
Somebody, but it's gonna ruffle a lot.
Who is the person?

SPEAKER_01 (36:11):
Who's the question?
Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (36:15):
Listen, listen.
She has a mic.
I'm just personally saying this.
I'm just personally sayingexperience.
Who is it?
Like, as far as like people thatdidn't done music and was close,
but didn't quite make it far, Iwould definitely say, and I'm
sorry, I mean, people that'salive.

SPEAKER_10 (36:39):
Say the name of I'm gonna say.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 (36:44):
I'ma say 704 Chop, bruh.
Because he makes real goodmusic, bro.
Like, I'm talking about as faras like people that was like
right there with a baby, becauseyou on the level of speaking of,
like, you're not picking up,speaking of upcoming artists.
You're speaking of people thatwas in the industry but didn't
quite make it far.

(37:04):
Yeah.
I feel like personally, 704 Chopdon't get his flowers, bro.
He really did make good music.
Like, I'm telling you, like, hehe made music like Kevin Gates,
and like he made good music,bro.
And I really wish he, out ofCharlotte, I wish he would have
made it far.

SPEAKER_01 (37:22):
You know what name I would say since he said that.

SPEAKER_03 (37:26):
Who?
Don't get mad at me.
No, you're probably gonna saywho I mean.

SPEAKER_01 (37:29):
You know, I love you.
J Wade Sosa.

SPEAKER_03 (37:32):
Yeah, him too.

SPEAKER_01 (37:33):
Oh, Jay Wade.
J Wade was like right rightthere.
Right here.
Literally, exactly.
My shit together.
Yeah.
Right here.

SPEAKER_03 (37:45):
You feel me?
Like, but if we was talkingabout people that pass, you feel
me, like, don't, of course, butI'm like, like, as far as like
people that like was right therein the industry, J Way and 704
Chop.
Listen, this is no slightly.
It's not like they really madeit.
You can read action, exactly.
They probably see this like, youknow what?

SPEAKER_10 (38:06):
Damn, they right.
No, I live in the studio.

SPEAKER_03 (38:10):
And the only reason what made me think of 704 Chop
is when you said the baby, andthe fact that he was right
there, like he didn't need nofutures or nothing.
Like, he just made like goodmusic.
Like his voice would just, hejust glide on the beat.

SPEAKER_01 (38:25):
Like, you just don't but see when you like that,
yeah, you could still music,bro.
704 and J-Way is them type ofartists where they could they
still got time to come back inthe game.

SPEAKER_03 (38:38):
Like people that's like in Charlotte, like, and I
mean if you're speaking in likedifferent areas, it'd be
different.
But like you speaking ofCharlotte artists, I just feel
like if I I live in Gastonia,I'm from Virginia, but I live in
Gastonia.
But as far as like people that Iwould listen to like from 2014
and up, like I would think,like, of course, don't, but like

(39:02):
704 Chop and J-Wade, yeah, themtoo.
Yeah, right.
Like, she here where I'm here,but 704 Chop was there, bruh.
Like, I wish he would havereally No, I don't even really
know, bro, like that, but I justfeel like his music is just like
music, like you just be like,damn, like somebody's like, once
you listen to the old music, yoube like, damn, yeah, you ain't

(39:24):
make it, but you got them, youdare and got them in my radio
shit.

SPEAKER_01 (39:28):
So here's what I will say 704 Chop and J-Way
Sosa, y'all don't give up.
Y'all get completely tunnelvision and annihilated.
And trust me, you could jumpback in and make your way back
up there.

SPEAKER_02 (39:45):
I was gonna say me.
I ain't gonna lie.
But I'm I'm still striving, I'mstill fighting.
I'm gonna say me, though.
I'm a big man.

SPEAKER_05 (39:54):
You're not from Charlie.

SPEAKER_10 (39:55):
Yeah.
So, you know, like um, like whatis the process uh like because
you know you got Fable and thoseguys coming through, like what
is the process for you to go outand reaching out to them and
say, hey, I need you to come, Ineed you to perform at this
event.
Um, because a lot of times, youknow, that brings their fans to

(40:16):
the event.
You know, some people arestooshes, they be like, I ain't
doing that shit.
You know what I mean?
Like, I've been dealt with a lotof these motherfuckers.
Uh so like what is your processlike and how do you actually go
to them like, hey, I need you tocome out, I need you to perform.
How's that process like?

SPEAKER_01 (40:31):
Honestly, I'm a very well-connected woman.
And I utilize my resources.

SPEAKER_10 (40:36):
Absolutely.
There you go.

SPEAKER_01 (40:37):
So all I literally do is go to my phone, be like,
at first I already know who Iwant.
So then I go to my phone and belike, who could get him for me?

SPEAKER_06 (40:47):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (40:48):
And I just get scrolling, scrolling.
I said, Oh, that motherfucker,he could hit him up.
So that's exactly what went downwith that.
And then it just connected toanother person and another
person and another person, andthen boom, got him.
So yeah, like for me, I I'm notafraid to reach out to people
and ask them for shit.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Like a lot of people's egos andpride just be, you know,

(41:11):
stopping them from asking.
Me, I'm not that person.
If I want something, I go getit.
And I was just like, you knowwhat, let me just go on my phone
and ask them and see whatthey're gonna say, see what we
can make happen, everything.
And that's what I did.

SPEAKER_10 (41:26):
Yeah, your network increases your network.
Exactly.
This nigga stuff like thefuture, bro.

SPEAKER_01 (41:30):
At first, I tell you though, I ain't think none of
this was gonna happen this year.
But um, thank God.
I kept I kept calling and belike, y'all coming out here,
y'all.
Like these type of artists,like, you really gotta be on it
with them because they get sobusy on tour or so busy in the

(41:52):
studio that they can't get totheir phone or they can't get to
their DM or what have you.
So these type of artists, like,you really gotta be on it on it.
So I made it happen.

SPEAKER_10 (42:02):
That's what's up.
And I was gonna I was gonna askthat.
I was gonna say, you know, whatdifficulties uh that kind of is
like, I'm gonna say hinder you,but kind of make you like, damn,
I don't want to do this shitthis year.
You know, because a lot of timesit's hard doing shit every year,
you know.
Um, because we was doingtraining day every week, and I
was like, fuck, for like five,six, fuck this shit.

(42:26):
You know what I'm saying?
So, but you know, the CarolinaMusic Awards is a way bigger
platform.
Video Awards is a way biggerplatform.
So to do it every year, likewhere have there been a time
where you say, fuck the SeanWondro?

SPEAKER_01 (42:40):
Every year.
Yesterday, yes.
Earlier this morning.
Like when I tell you, like,literally every year I be
wanting to give up.
I be wanting to give up.
I'm for real.
Do you get it?

SPEAKER_02 (42:54):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 (42:56):
Because it's like doing this show, like, and doing
these shows, like you deal witha lot.
There's a lot of stuff behindthe scene that be going, then I
swear if it was camera followingme, y'all be like, is this real?

SPEAKER_02 (43:06):
Let me follow you.
Let me vlog you.

SPEAKER_01 (43:08):
Bruh, follow me, bruh.
Like, people be shocked, but I II keep going.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm so passionate aboutwhat I do that I don't let the
negativity stop me.
I don't let the haters stop me.
I don't let the money stop me.
Like, I keep going.
Everybody think I got money.

(43:28):
I ain't rich.
I be doing this show off ashoestring budget.
But I'm a hustler and I know howto go get it.
I know that I I got a passionbehind this.
You know what I mean?
So when you got a passion behindsomething and you believe really
believing what you're doing,you're gonna do what you gotta
do to keep that thing going.

(43:49):
Like my first show, I sold outand I've been selling out ever
since.
And I didn't think all thempeople was gonna come.
But they came.
So I just think about all ofthat.
I try to stay focused on thepositivity and on, you know,
what I've done before, andthat's what keeps me going.

(44:11):
But it is definitely, shh.

SPEAKER_02 (44:14):
I think nine o'clock this morning, I was like, you
know what, I just want to get Ithink if people if people see
that side of you, like, or justsee that the gro the the all the
work it puts in behind thescenes, though, that's gonna
make a lot of people more drawninto it.
Like, cause they they becausethey probably really don't they
know you throwing it, but theyprobably so into the videos and
stuff they don't know how muchyou really actually do put

(44:36):
behind the production.

SPEAKER_01 (44:37):
Yeah, and I mean that's why I say I wish you know
I did have that camera personaround me.
I'm popping out so that theycan't see the work that goes on
behind it, because it's a lot ofstuff that highest wish.

SPEAKER_02 (44:50):
I want to be there for the experience.
Let's go.
See that?
Yeah, let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 (44:53):
But like it's a lot of things that I go through.
It'll have the audience orwhoever watching, like, wow,
because you compete in with theshow in your real life.
So it's times where you can'teat because you gotta put this
money over here to go buy atrophy.
You gotta put this money overhere to go pay for a host.

(45:15):
These hosts ain't free.
Everybody came with a check.
You gotta put this money overhere to go get a DJ, to go get
the viny.
The viny always the mostexpensive thing.
So it's times where you gottasacrifice something on your
personal end in order to makethat happen.

(45:35):
And a lot of people be like,dang, you crazy, you did that
shit?
I'd be like, shit, I love thisshit.
Took out a whole loan on thisvideo.
I love this shit.
Look, look.
And the crazy part is I'm notthe one getting no award.
So I don't do this for me.

SPEAKER_05 (45:52):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (45:53):
I don't even hit the I don't even hit the stage.
This is for y'all moment asartists, for y'all moment as
people and pillars in thecommunity.
This ain't for me.
And the money that I receive, itgoes right back into the show.
You think Fabo free?
You think this and that artistfree?
No, I wish.

(46:15):
Now, sometimes people do lookout for me because of the
relationship or because theyreally want to do it, but then
you got other people they wantto get paid.

SPEAKER_10 (46:24):
That's facts.

SPEAKER_01 (46:24):
So therefore, you go ahead and you do it because you
know you really want them there.

SPEAKER_10 (46:28):
But I mean, even though, so you know, they always
say, man, you gotta spend moneyto make money.

SPEAKER_01 (46:34):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_10 (46:34):
So, you know, it's and do and it shows in the
product, like, oh man, yeah, sheshe she you know.
They can tell when they put yourmoney and your time and effort
into things, and they can tellwhen shit is half-ass.
You know, so that gets to mynext question.
Uh, like navigating throughCharlotte, through the awards,
um, who who's been giving youlike the most hate out here?

(46:57):
Because Charlotte is veryfucking clingy, and there's a
lot of fucking haters and shitout here.
Like, uh you know, just just isit?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,yes, oh shit.
So I am one of the at least hehonest.

(47:18):
At least he honest.
You know what I mean?
So it's it's a lot, you know.
As he said, uh he's one of them,you know.
So how has how have younavigated through that?
Um, and I'm gonna get intosomething else, but how has you
how have you navigated throughthat?

SPEAKER_01 (47:32):
Honestly, the only reason why people hate me here,
and and just I'ma just say this,just flat out, I got haters and
I got supporters.
But the reason why I got a lotof haters here is because I
don't cave into their bullshit.
And because I'm not a yes woman,and because I'm not that person
who gives a fuck about theirstatus.

(47:53):
Like, I don't care because youwork for this person, that
person.
That don't I don't that don'tphase me.
Like, I'm not gonna sit here andbe like, oh, you were with so
and so, oh yeah, I need to suckyour dick.
No, what happened?

(48:14):
I don't give a I know I kind oflike completely flipped just
now.
Real Cammy is in the building.
Oh, they need to look at finger,but um, like a lot of people
don't like me here because Itell them no, and because I

(48:35):
don't kiss their ass, andbecause I don't suck the dick.
So but I got a whirlwind ofsupporters here, and I love them
dearly.
But the thing is, like with me,I put in way too much work
behind what I do, and that's whyI never let no hater stop me.

(48:59):
I hey, there's been plenty ofpeople trying to stop me.
You see, I keep going.
Even back through the radioready days.
Radio ready.
I was, I kept going.

SPEAKER_10 (49:09):
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 (49:10):
I remember that.
But like, no matter how muchhate I receive, they still be
packing out my shows.
I'd be like, dang, you hate me,but you hit thank you for your
ticket.

SPEAKER_10 (49:19):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (49:21):
Thank you for supporting me.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_10 (49:23):
Like, I'm gonna buy the ticket show.

SPEAKER_01 (49:26):
But but thanks.
So you don't hate me that much.
You just hate me a little bit.

SPEAKER_10 (49:29):
Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 (49:29):
You bought the ticket.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 (49:31):
But um, you just really gotta keep going.
Like, through all the hate,through all the rejection that
you receive at doing this musicstuff, like you just really
gotta keep fighting through itand keep going.
Like, you got a vision in yourhead of where it is that you
wanna be, right?
Stick to that vision and fightthrough it.
So that's what I do.

SPEAKER_10 (49:51):
Absolutely.
Um, you know, and I ask thatquestion because there's a lot
of uh award shows out here.
Um, in particular, we have onewhich is the um the Queen City
Awards that we have out here.
You know, shout out to KavonGlover and and what he does and
everything out there.
Um I just feel like as far asthe structure of the show goes

(50:15):
is not conducive for peoplethat's really out here doing
what they do, right?
Um and I just think that heneeds to change it up a little
bit.
And this is just not coming fromme, this is coming from people
that have been going to the showyear after year, and they say
like it's really, you know, kindof like watered down dense.
It's just like it's not cateringto Queen City, you know, quote

(50:39):
unquote.
Um and so, you know, people youknow, you know, hit me up in a
damn all the time.
Um, so my question to you islike in that, because that's
probably other than I mean y'allare two different entities, but
at the end of the day, I stillaward shows, right?
So who has been like yourbiggest uh award show that has

(51:02):
been like in the way, so tospeak?
That's that's in the way, butthey shouldn't be in the way.
Like, I see you smirking becauseyou know who is that like and
and yeah, talk about that.
I played the fifth cammy.
This is no advisory podcast.

(51:22):
We don't give a fuck over here,all right?
No advisory.
Hold on, let me load you up.
Let me load you up.
I got two in a chamber.
Yeah, we gonna talk about it.
Yeah, yeah.
Hang on.
Ask the question.
Huh?
You know what the fuck thequestion was.
You know somebody, a wise mantold me was you say something

(51:44):
like, huh?
They heard you the first time.
You heard me the first time.

SPEAKER_01 (51:50):
Let me say this.

SPEAKER_10 (51:51):
Yeah, say it.

SPEAKER_01 (51:54):
Say it.
I'ma bypass that question.
Say it with your chest, Kim.
Because it's a lot of heat thatcomes with that conversation.

SPEAKER_10 (52:03):
It is.
It is.

SPEAKER_01 (52:05):
It's a lot of heat that I could say a lot, but I'm
not going to.
Because we'd already done wentthrough all that before.

unknown (52:15):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (52:15):
A lot of heat.

SPEAKER_10 (52:16):
You done a rabbit hole already?

SPEAKER_01 (52:17):
We done been down that rabbit hole when I first
stepped in the building.
So, um, in the Charlotte.
So Okay.
Yeah, we done been down thatrabbit hole.
And it was an ugly rabbit hole,and um, I do not want to go
through that no more.

SPEAKER_10 (52:31):
Fair enough.

SPEAKER_01 (52:32):
But yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (52:32):
But I think, in my um, just generally speaking,
that again, like Charlotte isvery cliquish when it comes to
things like that, or anythingthat somebody's doing that they
feel like they're in the way of.
And and again, it could besomething completely opposite,
like we're not even in the samelane.
But because this says award showor something, they feel like, oh

(52:53):
my shit, in a way.
Instead of like, yo, I like whatyou're doing over there, let's
come together and see how theycan be able to do it.

SPEAKER_01 (53:00):
Exactly what you're saying right now is what I went
through with the other show.
That's exactly what I wentthrough.
So instead of us comingtogether, there's there's rift
wrath.
And it's like, dang, like, itdidn't even have to be that way.
You know what I mean?
Like, we could have literallycome together and really
exploded this thing.
But they chose not to bring ittogether.

SPEAKER_10 (53:23):
And why do you feel it's that way in sh here in
Charlotte?

SPEAKER_01 (53:26):
What you just said.

SPEAKER_10 (53:29):
What I said.

SPEAKER_01 (53:32):
You said you are a good interviewer, I swear to
God.

SPEAKER_02 (53:38):
I'm gonna tally up how many times you said, mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (53:43):
But they wanted to be the only award show here.

SPEAKER_02 (53:46):
That's facts.

SPEAKER_01 (53:48):
So it when you really doing something for
passion, that shouldn't even bein the mix.

SPEAKER_10 (53:56):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (53:56):
When you're doing something because you love it,
and because you want to help theartist, and because you want to
put the artist on, and becauseyou want to display the artist's
talent, that's who it needs tobe about.

SPEAKER_10 (54:05):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (54:06):
It need to be about the people in the community,
because we also do communityawards.
It need to be about that.

SPEAKER_09 (54:12):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (54:13):
It don't need to be about ego.

SPEAKER_09 (54:15):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 (54:16):
You ain't got a soldier boy everything.
I'm the first, I'm the only.
Like, who cares about all that?
Right.
What's this?
Do this shit because you reallywant to fucking do it and put on
for fucking people that fuckingdeserve it.

SPEAKER_02 (54:30):
What's your sign?

SPEAKER_01 (54:31):
I'm an Aries.

SPEAKER_02 (54:32):
Oh, Jesus.

SPEAKER_10 (54:34):
What's wrong with Aries?
What's wrong with that?
I mean, I I'm not an Aries, butI don't get into that zodiac
shit.

SPEAKER_01 (54:40):
What sign are you?

SPEAKER_02 (54:42):
Scorpio.

SPEAKER_01 (54:43):
Oh my god.
So what does that mean?

SPEAKER_10 (54:46):
What does that mean with Scorpio and Aries?
What does that mean?

SPEAKER_01 (54:48):
Scorpios are crazy.

SPEAKER_02 (54:50):
Aries are meaningful.
DJ Calvin.
Libras are a bit.
Oh my god.
I never got into this zodiacshit.

SPEAKER_10 (55:01):
So what's wrong with Aries?
What is the what is the uhperception about Aries?
You like you a zodiac fuckingmaster?
What's the perception aboutAries?
Emotionally unstable.
Emotionally unstable.

SPEAKER_01 (55:15):
They're definitely fantastic, definitely not
stable.
They're mean.
They're very mean.
Me?
Aries?
Mean?
No.
But they but with Liros, it's agood vibe.

unknown (55:26):
I just know all that shit.

SPEAKER_10 (55:27):
You into that Zodiac shit?
What's your thoughts of Aries?

SPEAKER_06 (55:31):
What's your thoughts?

unknown (55:32):
I'm a Leo.

SPEAKER_06 (55:34):
Leo, okay.
But like Aries.
Why?
You say every time you're gonnabe able to do that.
I never really dealt with Leo.
Aries, Aries is like, like,first off, uh Scorpio, that's
like blue flame.
Aries.
We're fire.
Fire, like red flame.
But they're the type that's likeum a fire that rises.
See a Leo, I'm always on fire.

(55:55):
You feel me?
But they a fire that rises.
Oh, okay.
And they very like comedic andfunny.
They see the bright side, likeseeing the she's seeing the
people person and all of it.
Like, oh, it shouldn't beda-da-da-da.
That's a that's a real Ariesperception on like how they view
people and how they peopleshould treat each other.
They they trying to take us allthrough there.

(56:16):
Yeah, turn the mic, yeah.
They trying to take us allthrough there.
You get what I'm saying?
So like the like how she whenshe was like, oh, it shouldn't
be about the ego, da da da dada.
In a way, but like honestly, inyour position, like, because I'm
an artist, I need somebody likeyou nuts dropped.
Regardless if you feel like thatain't what's necessary, you

(56:39):
being in position where you at,I need your nuts to be dropped.
I can't, I can't, I can't counton you if it ain't that but the
thing is you let cause you letuh uh somebody who go off of
that, like um those perceptions,like that's all they do.
We losing the people who is notas good as us.
So you you gotta be good aroundthe board.

SPEAKER_01 (57:02):
The thing is, when it comes down to ego, it's a
time and a place for it.
It's a time and a place for it.

SPEAKER_06 (57:08):
See, like and you gotta be careful with that.
One thing I know about you isthat everybody can't handle your
ego.
So go ahead and drop that shit.
I get what you're saying,because it ain't as a person,
it's not like your character, itain't necessary.
But like, it is now.
Cause a motherfucker done triedyou when you shouldn't be tried,
like being trying to get.
Drop your nuts.

(57:29):
Thank you.
You know what I'm saying?
You being genuine and you openup the door for us.

SPEAKER_05 (57:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (57:33):
You know what I'm talking about?
So like fuck them right now.
You know what?
We need uh you need to turn thatfire to go from that little
flame to go.
Okay, yeah.
You got a little flame to go bigflame real quick for something
like that.
If if if if you is the vesselthat I'm going through to be
successful to get these wars, Ineed your nuts to be airware.

SPEAKER_02 (57:54):
Everywhere.

SPEAKER_06 (57:55):
Like real shop.

SPEAKER_02 (57:56):
That's crazy.
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_08 (57:58):
That's some real shit right there.
You heard that?

SPEAKER_10 (58:05):
When you walk out of here, you better drag them,
motherfucker.

SPEAKER_06 (58:13):
You feel me?

SPEAKER_02 (58:14):
That's some real shit, though.

SPEAKER_06 (58:15):
Oh, they can't be fucking with you.

SPEAKER_02 (58:16):
See, he's saying you the HBIC in charge.
That's your production.
So you you have every right towalk around with ego, is what
he's saying.
It's your shit.
Pop it.
Your shit, pop it.

SPEAKER_06 (58:27):
Don't hit open that door.
They try it.
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 (58:32):
Like, ain't like you giving a bullshit production.
Your nuts growing right now.

SPEAKER_01 (58:35):
My nuts is hard.
I know that was too much.
That's Aries.
Oh, boom, boom.

SPEAKER_02 (58:46):
That's Aries right there.

SPEAKER_01 (58:51):
You might be a scorpio.
I'm not a scorpion.

SPEAKER_09 (58:53):
Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 (58:54):
I I do feel what you're saying.

SPEAKER_10 (58:57):
Um, my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 (59:01):
What happened?
Oh.
I do feel what you're saying.
Um, but honestly, again, for me,like, when you get to a certain
age, like the age that I'm atright now, maybe all that's
cool, like when I'm in my 20sand 30s.
But when you in your 40s andyour late 40s, you ain't on none

(59:22):
of that.
It's either you see it in me oryou don't.
Like, that's how I feel.
Like, I ain't gotta pop my shit,but I'm gonna pop my shit, but I
ain't gotta pop my shit.
And I ain't gonna let my nutshang because either you see it
or you don't see it.
Some people gonna look at youand they gonna see it, right?
Some people gonna look at youand be like, nah.

(59:42):
Let them blind motherfuckers go.
That's what the fuck I gothrough in this whole process
every year.
So when you ask me what I gothrough, this is what I go
through.
I go through a lot of blindpeople, and I go through a lot
of people who can motherfuckingsee.
Now, the crazy part is once theshit is pop, guess what?
Blind people coming up and allof a sudden they can fucking
see.

(01:00:02):
Get your blind ass the fuck awayfrom me.
Because you ain't believing whenI fucking told you.
What you over here for now?

SPEAKER_10 (01:00:09):
Visually impaired, no offensive.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:12):
So that's why I don't be like that 24-7.
Because it's either you gonnasee it or you not gonna see it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:21):
You get what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:22):
Either you're gonna see my heart, either you're
gonna see my work, either yougon' see my ethic, either you
gon' see me or you not gonna seeme.
I ain't got to flash the money,I ain't got to have the fancy
car, I ain't got to have this, Iain't gotta do this, I ain't
gotta say, oh, I'm I'm the letme shut up.
That's all right.
You could tell you I ain't gottado it.
I ain't gonna do all that.

(01:00:44):
Cause those that know and thosethat can see, them the only
fucking people I care about.
Everybody wants titles withtheir name.
I ain't gotta have no titleswith my name.

SPEAKER_10 (01:00:58):
Cause I was gonna do that next.
So since no, no, that's good.
So since you got that, we'regonna pass the mic around,
they're gonna ask you aquestion.
Okay.
Alright, go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 (01:01:06):
Oh, I was gonna respond it when she's gonna be
able to do that.
Oh, go ahead, respond then.

SPEAKER_10 (01:01:09):
Respond.

SPEAKER_06 (01:01:10):
What I was saying is like the popping your shit, like
push your positivity more thanthey push in their negativity.
Like, I'm still hearing I'm notfinna do it.
Yeah, I'm still hearing I'm notfinna do it.
You get what I'm saying?
When it's push push that shitmore than what they pushing.

(01:01:31):
Your repertoire, yo, you getwhat I'm saying?
So say is the reason why this iswhat I mean by like dropping
your nuts, right?
It could be as simple as theartist that you are dealing
with.
You ain't really gotta you ain'tgotta uh mirror their image.
You ain't got to do what they dojust to get, you ain't gotta get
back.
Keep doing you, but be loudabout it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:53):
The reason why I don't wanna be, or why I'm not,
is because I don't want peoplecoming to me for the wrong
reason.
I want you coming to me becauseyou really fuck with me.
I don't want you coming to mebecause I got label connects, or
because I done broke over 80% ofthe artist music here in
Charlotte, or because I got thisum going on that I done, you

(01:02:14):
know what I mean, my workexperience in the past and work
with this company, that company.
I don't want you to get a lot ofmoney.
Look at your never chat.
But look at your look at yourlaid that out.
But I need that.
I know, but I don't needeverybody to need it.
Because you can't have everybodyaround you.
You can't weed them out.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:32):
That's true.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:33):
But the the the loud.

SPEAKER_06 (01:02:36):
Allow this to do that too, though.
Yeah.
You feel me?
And what we can't do is um tryto say what's gonna happen
before we know what's gonnahappen.
See, right now you're telling mewhat people are gonna do without
the results.
Like I don't know, but I saythat's not gonna do the work.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:52):
I say that because I've already been through it.
That's why I say it.
That's that's why now turn thatpositivity up louder than that
negativity.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:00):
Okay.

SPEAKER_10 (01:03:01):
That's a that's a that's a gem.
Turn it, turn your positivity uplouder than the negativity.
That's another shirt, by theway.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:09):
It keeps you from it keeps you from not being you.
You get what I'm saying?
So turn it up loud, loud.
Oh, y'all don't like this?
Turn it up.
You get what I'm saying?
Turn it up and drop your fuckingshit.
I I get I get and respect whatyou're saying, but I know it's
hard, I know it's hard becauseyou your own leader, you your
own leader.

(01:03:29):
Yeah, nobody's can press thebutton but you.
Yeah, I understand it.
But try to live, I I promiseyou.
I promise you, I promise you.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:36):
Trust me, they what I what I will say is they see my
page, and my page is, and theyknow that I'm that.
So I don't have to speak it,they gonna see it.
You gonna see Eric Bellinger onmy page, you gonna see Hot Boys
on my page, you gonna see theserecord labels on my page.

(01:03:56):
All you gotta do is scroll.
I ain't got to speak that andsay, Oh, I work with this
person, that person, oh thiswhoop that I ain't I don't wanna
be that nigga.
Oh, for sure.
I want you to see, I want you tosee my work for yourself.

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:11):
That kind of stuff isn't it?

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:13):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:21):
Just go to my page.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:22):
My page is loud.
Go to at Simply Successful ENT.

SPEAKER_10 (01:04:26):
There you go.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:27):
Go to at Carolina Music Video Awards.
Shameless scrolling.
So you gonna see my page?

SPEAKER_10 (01:04:33):
Let's go.
Who got another question forCam?
Who got a question for Cam?
Got a question?
You got the mic.
No, no?

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:44):
Come on, it is in this industry, is it harder
because you're a woman, you feellike?

SPEAKER_09 (01:04:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:51):
I think that's most women in most industries.
I feel like party planning andpanning and stuff is like a
woman, like a woman, like womenare better at playing hindsight,
you may think that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:03):
Uh you know, again, when it comes to doing it for
music and doing it for differentinterests, that's where the male
domination comes in.
Like when you ask me aboutCharlotte, like it's a lot of
men that do what I do, sotherefore, they're not gonna
like me because I'm coming inthe game and I'm doing it soon
because I'm actually successfulat work.

(01:05:25):
That's how that's how I started.
Then they all stepped away anddid their own thing instead of
just staying in.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:33):
She says she's saying she put y'all niggas on.
And y'all not paying the queenhomage.
Y'all not paying the queenhomage.
She put y'all in the door,nigga.
Like, what?
Everybody, give me Brazil.

SPEAKER_10 (01:05:53):
So listen, right?
This Sunday, the 21st.
Yes, you know, the kind of musicvideo awards.
Huh?
You got a question?
We got a question.
Pro Shorty got a question?
Pro Shorty in a building.
Okay.
Pro Shorty building.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:05):
Hello?
Okay.
Can you hear me?
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
Yes.
What's the most rewarding partabout what you do?
Like what makes it worth doingwhat you do?
What makes it worth waking upand continuing to do it?

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:19):
Your voice isn't.
Good question.
Voices, man.
Can you ask me a question next?

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:29):
Um, honestly, the part that I love the most is the
show day and seeing everybodywalk through that door.
Because there's a lot of peoplethat be like, oh yeah, I'ma
come, I'ma come.
And then they don't come.
Facts.
So when you actually there andyou see all these people in one
building come to come and watchsomething that you put on, like

(01:06:51):
it's an incredible feeling.
Like for me, it's a rush, yeah,exactly.
Because it's one thing to visionwhat you want to do, but then
when you see it come to life,influential, it's a beautiful
fucking feeling.
Yes.
Like, because you you had athoughts in your head all day.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:10):
Doubting yourself.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:11):
Exactly.
Doubting yourself, puttingyourself through all kind of
emotion and just everything.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:16):
Then you get there and you realize I was like,
what?

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:18):
I went through all that bullshit for nothing.
My mama, um, earlier today andyesterday, she like, you do it
because you like theaggravation.
I'm like, Mama, I don't like theaggravation.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:31):
Sometimes you really psych yourself out and you
really be really overlyprepared.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:36):
You will, but honestly, just seeing all of
y'all walk through the door andthen seeing the production on
the stage, like, I love thattype of stuff.
Like, when I was a kid coming upin this, that's what I
envisioned.
Like, just being able to dostuff like this and do it doing
real production type of showsand just everything.

(01:07:57):
So that's a beautiful sight whenyou see music.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:02):
Um producing a love show?

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:04):
A love show?

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:05):
Yeah, like a flavor of love type shit.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:07):
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:08):
So I just think I want to be in it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:10):
Yeah, so outside of outsider award shows, I'm a
writer.
So I have not only not only 300songs, because I love writing
songs, but I have four books, Ihave six movies, and six reality

(01:08:30):
shows.
And they all just chill.
I ain't doing shit with it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:34):
Put that shit up.
Put that shit in the up.
Put it on the flow.
What's one of your realityshows, man?
Tell me one of your realityshows.
I want to hear one.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:43):
Um, one of my reality shows is I'd rather be a
side chick.

SPEAKER_10 (01:08:46):
I'd rather be a side chick.
That is like this!

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:51):
Tell me or just all myself.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:57):
Yeah.

unknown (01:08:58):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:58):
There you go.
All right, all genres of music,male and female.
Or.
And they all just chilling.
Side chick shit.
Yeah, I should have been a shit.
I'd rather I'd rather be a sidechick.
Because there's women thathonestly don't care for the
girlfriend and the wife title.
They just rather be a sidechick.

unknown (01:09:15):
Really?

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:16):
A lot.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:18):
And they don't have like no.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:30):
I'm like, that was the universe.
Oh Lord, I must see so funny.
So that's one of my realities.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:40):
That'd be fire though.

unknown (01:09:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (01:09:42):
Listen, man.
Let them know, you know, the21st.
Let them know once one more timewhat's going down on the 21st
Sunday.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:50):
Yes, 21st, ninth annual Carolina Music Video
Awards hosted by Wildin' OutComedian, Tyler the Chronicles.
Oh, I also have Mr.
J Wood, Steven the Dream.

SPEAKER_08 (01:10:02):
Um, I don't know what the fuck he's doing.

SPEAKER_10 (01:10:22):
Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:25):
I place the same.
He changed the fucking shit.
That's a lot of people.
I'm not trying to make up.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:33):
You and I clearly said the wrong name.
I'm so sorry.
I I said the wrong name.

SPEAKER_08 (01:10:45):
No, you said the right name.
I'm sorry.
You said the right name.
Don't need to apologize.
We just gonna bypass that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:53):
Light skinned, dark skin war would never be over,
bro.
Tell these folks.
I thought it was over.
We're still out here into it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:01):
Sorry, audience.
Forgot what platform I was onfor today.
Don't advise me.

SPEAKER_10 (01:11:07):
They should have advised you when we kept
winning.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:14):
All right, let's just jump back in.
I'm afraid to say other names,guys.
Royalty from uh K97.5.
We also have her.
Um, you threw me off with thatone.
Ooh.
Um, anyways, let me get back onscript.

(01:11:35):
Uh so we got a ton of hosts, wegot a ton of artists performing.
We got um Trap Dicky, we gotfreaking Fable.
He's performing live.
We also be doing a tribute to803 Fresh, and that's gonna be
crazy dope.
I got some steppers coming outto do a tribute with him.
He will be receiving Best Songof the Year, of course, because

(01:11:58):
everybody was popping them fansthis year, so he definitely
deserves that.
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:03):
We were at the event Sunday, and they pulled them
fans out.
I thought it was switches inthat moment.
They ain't never been in a lineat that.
And they pulled it out of theday, bronze, everything, they
back next to it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:18):
What the fuck the fuck?
You play 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:22):
So you already know he deserves that award.
Um, we have a ton of artistvideos that we'll be playing.
I don't play the whole thing.
We just play seconds and then wego on to the next one because we
ain't got time to be there allnight.
Um, we got incredible lineup ofindie artists performing as
well, anywhere from Mary Mac toum you name it.

(01:12:45):
I got Hot Boy Shaq.
Yeah, we definitely got a long,good lineup of artists
performing.
Um, so I I'm just ready.
I'm ready.
It's been a it's been a lot toput on this show.

SPEAKER_08 (01:13:01):
We do a media.
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:02):
We do a media, of course the media.

SPEAKER_08 (01:13:04):
Yes, we said that in the beginning.

SPEAKER_09 (01:13:10):
There's no advisory will be in the building covering
media.
Yes, we'll be in the middle ofthe day.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:17):
I'm gonna made it, I'm gonna be at the award.
And you guys are nominated forbest podcast.
Oh, number two, yes.

SPEAKER_10 (01:13:29):
And uh, yes, I had no choice.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:33):
Y'all been doing it for a very, very long time.

SPEAKER_10 (01:13:36):
Yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:36):
We have so you definitely didn't.

SPEAKER_10 (01:13:38):
I'm gonna go grave over the years.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:40):
What are they gonna vote?

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:40):
I'm gonna tell the people go vote.
Where are they gonna vote?
It's already done, bro.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:43):
It's already done, bro.
Done.
Just about announcing the winnernow.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:47):
You ain't tell me I was a nominated for an award.
Like, what's going on with you,bro?

SPEAKER_10 (01:13:52):
Listen, at this point in time, man, any award
show that has podcasts, noadvisors is gonna be in a
nomination.
I'm gonna find the tux.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:02):
It's just there because I mean, who else?

SPEAKER_10 (01:14:06):
Who else got this?

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:07):
So here's what I here's what I'm gonna say.
I got a lot of categories, butevery category won't be given on
stage.
Some categories will be justlike Grammy style, where they'll
be given on the red carpet.
So that one y'all is one of thecategories that'll be given on
the car.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:23):
I'll fuck with the red carpet.
That's right.

SPEAKER_10 (01:14:25):
I'm happy for a nomination.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:26):
That's why I still relevant this market.

SPEAKER_10 (01:14:29):
Another round of applause for us.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:31):
I ain't gonna lie, though.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:33):
But we'll be there all night if we just did all the
categories on stage.
Yeah, that's the yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:37):
But you'd be mad if like somebody did a Kanye West
with one of the categories.
Like, I think that's a viralmoment.

SPEAKER_10 (01:14:44):
So I wouldn't be opposed to that.
They're gonna clip that shitlike a motherfucker on TikTok.
Yeah, TikTok.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:50):
I mean, I'm not gonna lie to you.
I kind of expect that this yearbecause it's a little bit of
hateration going on.
So I'm kind of expecting that,but I'm just praying that they
behave.
But that's why, but that's why Iput those problem categories way
at the end of the show.
So that if the majority of thepeople leave it, you know, go

(01:15:10):
before the drama to go down.
Don't this is like one of thoseshows where it's like, please
don't stay to the end.

SPEAKER_05 (01:15:17):
It's like that.
That's crazy.
Please don't stay to the end.

SPEAKER_09 (01:15:29):
That's messy.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:32):
I also did like I also did like take out some of
those categories from this stagebecause it is such a problematic
category, and I threw them on ared carpet.

SPEAKER_10 (01:15:43):
Which category is that?

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:44):
Uh you know it's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:48):
You know what's going on.
I mean, you do see who else Igot in the best podcast
category, right?

SPEAKER_10 (01:16:04):
Well, you got um you know um um ugly money is in
there.
You don't know ugly money?
No, yeah, podcast, though.
He probably he actually wasgonna come on the show, but we
couldn't line it up.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, ugly money.
I mean, shout out to them.
I'm not gonna hit up my fault.
Unless they really trash, I'mlike, it's no fucking way.
That's it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:22):
You know?
You got Ugly Money, you gotMother N Out Podcast, you got
Renata Sow, you got D D Leggettand Core Queen podcast.

SPEAKER_10 (01:16:32):
It's that it's a lot of heavy hitters.
So for North Ross we'd benominated in that, I'm shit.
Fuck, I take that.
That's a W fucks.
That means we still relevant asmotherfucker.

SPEAKER_02 (01:16:42):
Look who we got on the on the couch.
Like, shit.
How are we not relevant if wegot her here?
Absolutely.
Was he on their podcast?
Who?
Was he on their podcast?
Who?
The ones you just nominated.
Was he on their podcast?
You said was you on theirpodcast?

SPEAKER_10 (01:16:56):
Oh, no.
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_08 (01:16:58):
Okay.

unknown (01:16:58):
Leave it right there.

SPEAKER_08 (01:17:00):
Leave it right there.
Leave it right there.
Hey, revelation.
Let's get a round of applause.
Fire girl came in to meet anyother.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:15):
I don't do this for everybody.

SPEAKER_10 (01:17:17):
Yeah.
So I don't, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:19):
I did this for him because our relationship.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:22):
We appreciate you for coming.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:23):
That's what it's all about.
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:24):
What part of New York are you from?

SPEAKER_10 (01:17:25):
She's from Miami.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:28):
God damn it.

SPEAKER_08 (01:17:29):
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:29):
But on that note, on that note, she got a New York
accent.
Did you live in New York for awhile?
That's from a horrible B.
Jesus.
That ain't no Miami accent.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:44):
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:45):
I was setting up the camera.
I was setting up the camera.
I missed that part.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:49):
But I do have a lot of family in New York, so that
it probably isn't the thing.
That's terrible.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:58):
You can't put it on the city.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:58):
But I and I will say this, I do appreciate your
advice tonight.

SPEAKER_02 (01:18:03):
Just gave it ism, brother.
That was dope.

SPEAKER_10 (01:18:06):
That was that was great dialogue, right there.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:09):
We was kind of going at it, but great dialogue, man.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (01:18:15):
But yo, man, it's a great episode, man.
No bossy podcast.
This is September 21st.
September 21st, Sunday.
You know, we'd be in thebuilding.
Um, the ninth annual CarolinaMusic Video Wars, right?
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (01:18:27):
Be in there with my light blue, my light blue tugs.
Sky blue.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:31):
What you wearing, McLean?

SPEAKER_10 (01:18:34):
Uh we're gonna talk about that off air.

SPEAKER_02 (01:18:38):
But Joey man is your boy, Syl McLean.
Ariola.
Ariola.
We out.
Hey.
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