Catch up on all the Rugby League news from NRL 360, Wednesday July 2nd, with hosts Braith Anasta and Gorden Tallis.
Joined by Michael Carayannis and James Hooper, the boys interview NSW Blues' star halfback Nathan Cleary to discuss whether winning an Origin decider is his final frontier. The panel then debates whether the recent criticism aimed at the South Sydney Rabbitohs is justified and discusses whether Wayne Bennett or other NRL coaches could take charge of the Kangaroos. They also cover the Wests Tigers’ decision to let Da Silva leave and what it means for the club’s future.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome to L three sixty Rugby League from every angle
joining me in the great good and talent. Let's bring
the Jono Australian Joanes super Michael will carry artists and
we have Nathan Cleary's standing by.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We're just about to interview him.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
But the Tales of Tigertown, they continue to drag on
what's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Lock going on at West Tiger's. At the moment breath
we know Talon de Silver has left this week Shane Richardson,
the West Tiger CEO. It feels as though he's really
put the ball back in Benji Marshall's quarter as a
head coach. Benji needs to try and make this work
because if he doesn't, rich has given him the course
to the Ferrari and told him you make it fly.
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And if it doesn't, well then we all know how
this could possibly end.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yeah, it's a really interesting situation.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Obviously, before drinth, who would have thought we got to
this day before June thirty that Lock of Galvin and
Tullon the Silver would be out the door. Obviously Lock
of Galvin situation was completely different to the Talent of
Silver one. But if one was very surprised that they
allowed him out of the club before June thirty.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Tell them what do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Gordy. We spoke about it last night, but there's been
a few stories.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Today that have come out that have gone a little
bit deeper into the camp at the time.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Yeah, look the Galvin story where that was a bit cloudy.
But with with talent, the silver a loan system, Appy
corrousl the age that what he's at. I thought it
was strange for the future of the organization. But if
Benji thinks that it's best for the roster now and
he's coaching in the next couple of years, well do
you go with the coach or do you go with
the future. I would probably tended to go with the
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future if I was the CEO, but they chose to
go with the coach, and.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
That's what's coming to lot today. Gordy eraise.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
A great point is that when rich At first got
his feet under the desk at the West Tigers, one
of his big announcements that he put out of the
members of the club was where a development club, we
need to invest in our local juniors. We're not going
to be you know, we've made mistakes previously under previous
administrations going out and wasting good money after bad on
trying to bring players into the place. We need to
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invest in the future, and that's where the decision around
Lockie Galvin looked. That was the shambles and it's completely
different circumstances to talent. But in Talent's case, he wanted
to remain at the club. But I think to back
Benji Marshall, Richo has had to support him and allow
him to make the happy decision. There's a number of
facets to that. A big part of it is also
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Jerome Lewi's role at the club now, he's got two
get out clauses. He and Happy are the leaders of
that club. So Benji needs to keep those senior figures
happy to ensure his own job security, to try and
win games, to ensure his long term coaching tenure.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
We're going to have Richie on the show next week,
so we're going to have a chat to him on
heavy hitters and see whether at the club. We'll pack
this a little bit more later on there we've got
anything clearly about the join us, but let's talk a
little bit at the Blues now. He five players didn't
train with the group today or the team. Have you
got an information on this?
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Yeah, so obviously Jerome Louis Nathan clear. We're among those
paining Hess Huts and young Brian Toll or were either
limited or didn't train.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Look, it's still a week out from.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
The game, so it's obviously not panic station is the
one the most concerned about is Brian Toll. But that's
why they got Jacob kraz In and around the squad.
So no real issues for for the Blues except for
Brian Toll heading into games three.
Speaker 8 (03:29):
Sounds you blokes are doing the Queensland.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Down there. You guys play it up, do we or you.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
Guys play it one of the two?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Loving this that we're in.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
I'll tell you what after Game one watching Crichton, limp
Off and pain Ass not training, I don't have any
worries for you.
Speaker 8 (03:48):
I don't have one concern.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I think they've called five extra players in just the.
Speaker 8 (03:55):
You got five to call it.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I had some concerns when I heard that there were
five players that didn't participate the fact that the halves
are training separately to the rest of the entire squad.
I know it's only early days in the camp, but
Laurie Daily spoke on this program earlier in the week
and we've read at length quite attributed to him, where
he says, you've got to know all the preparation.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
To me, I.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Worrying signs, but I reckon these guys with Nathan like
that have the game plan down. Pat You would think
they've played a lot of footy together. But if they're
training them by sad day and they can switch in
the gear, I don't think it'll.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Be a problem to you guys.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
It's not uncommon for this stage of the year for
multiple players not to train early part of the week.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It isn't no this time of the year. They're backing
up playing two games now again. We'll last Nathan, clearly
it is. But is this his final frontier? You know
a lot of people he has been successful in Origin
and we spoke about that with Bulldog, Richie and Cruels
on last night, but he hasn't won a decider, he
hasn't been in a winning decider, and he's done everything
else in the game. He's going to be a great
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at our game, but this would mean a lot to him.
Winn't to win this one on Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Well, Nathan's the best half back in the game, no question.
To win four Premierships the way that he has. He's
won World Cups for Australia, he's won three State of
Origin series, he's won a Brad Fittler Medal. But the
true champions of New South Wales, Andrew Johnson, Ricky Stewart,
they did win series, they did win series deciding games.
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So this probably is the final final box.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You'll do it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I believe I do as well. I think I think
this will be his best Origin ever. And as I said,
he's had a lot of success and he's doing a
great job. Actually, let's get to it. Let's cross line
with a great man.
Speaker 8 (05:37):
He is in Blues camp with New South Wales.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Nathan Cleary joins us now on the jo true Blue
Mike and Nathan, you've had a great career, you've achieved
it or we just spoke about it. What would it
mean to you to win an Origin decider for New
South Wales on Wednesday night?
Speaker 9 (05:56):
Yeah, honestly, it made the world to me. It feels
like I've been saying I've been longing for for a while.
I've been lucky enough to win series but haven't quite yet.
Jumped the hurdle of Winter Decider, so I love the
opportunity to do it, love the challenge, and yeah, real
looking forward to next Wednesday night.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
How's the growing Obviously struggled there in game two with it,
you still played very well and you played great against
the Bulldogs, But how is it and are you kicking game?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Where are you at with that? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (06:26):
It's feeling good, honestly, feeling better every day. So I'm
really happy with where it's at now. It's obviously just
building the King game into it, very confident with the
general play. Kick in the goal kicking sort of a
different story. But yeah, other than that, Yeah, feeling really.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Good, Nathan.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
It's cool to hear made after being so dominant in
game one, what went wrong in game two? And what
does New South Wales have to do to win this cider?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (06:52):
I think our first half in game two just simply
wasn't good enough. It wasn't up to any stand, any
regul league stand letlone origin standard. Just our discipline, then
compound with errors and then compound with poor defense and
also just our set finishes and all that, We're pretty poor.
I was really happy with the fight back in the
second half. But to give a team like Queens and
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that sort of lead, yeah, it's very hard to run
down and we couldn't couldn't do that, So yeah, I
just got to focus on ourselves and getting those things right.
They've won rugby league games for over one hundred years now,
just simple stuff holding the ball and defending well, not
giving away penalties. So yeah, that's our main folks at
the moment.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Nathan, it's James Hooper. The Blues forwards were so dominant
in the opening game from the opening set and then
the script was completely flipped in the opening half of
game two. What do you think needs to change in
that area of the game.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
I think it just refers back to what I was
talking about just before. I think, you know, field position
and possession goes a long way to helping those sort
of things, and getting on the front foot also sort
of where we're finishing our sets as well, a long
way with that too, So you know, I think at
the end of the day, if you'll defending the lot,
you're a lot more tired, so you're not doing as
much of the ball, and I was dominant, so you're
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just trying to get to even share a possession and
trying to win that field position battle.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Nathan Michael, carry on, So you're among five players that
didn't train or were limited today. Where are the rest
of the boys out in terms of their fitness? I
guess the most concern around your pen of teammate Brian Tol.
Speaker 9 (08:25):
Yeah, he's tracking well, another one that's getting better every day.
I think it's just sort of precautionary early in the week.
Me and Jerome will definitely a training tomorrow, so today
was sort of just a primer for tomorrow. A few
other boys boys might take a bit longer, particularly busier,
but very confident that he'll be out there next Wednesday night,
which is the most important.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Nathan, kaylen Pong has gone down. The Hemmer comes in. Now,
what does that change for you guys? As the opposing
team is New South Wales? What threat does the hem
oppose that maybe Kaitlyn didn't know. Where are they different
that you've got to look out for?
Speaker 9 (09:01):
I think they post similar threats to be honest. Obviously
the hammer speeds electric. He brings the X factor much
like Kaitlin did. So yeah, we're definitely gonna have to
be a a game defensively, particularly on the edges, probably
more so with the hammer he's in around the ruck
and on those off floads, just with his speed and
you know just the way you can tear through defenses
so quickly. I just need to be on high alert
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anytime those Queensland forwards have the ball, and also anytime
they shift in it. So it's kind of all across
the board. But you know they've got a lot of
X factor all through their team, so it's not so
much less to focus on who's coming into fullback. It's
sort of where we went wrong last game with our
defense and trying to correct that.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Nathan, You've played under some great coaches, your old man, Malmaninger, Freddie.
What are Laurie Daily's best strengths.
Speaker 9 (09:51):
I think he's just very personable, to be honest. He's
just a great bloke first and foremost, and then you
just see his passion coming out in the way he speaks,
and I really enjoy that. You know, I probably didn't
get to watch much of Low's play Origin, but Dad
always tells me that he's probably the best Origent player
he's ever seen, So that's high praise. But you'd never
think that just the way you talk to me is
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a very humble man. He talks a lot about his downfalls,
more so than is what he did well. But you know,
the passion is there and that's the most important thing
and it always comes out when he speaks.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So love listening to him.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
He touched on Jerome earlier, Mate reunited with him in
game two and again in game three. Is he any
different from the bloke that you partnered a couple of
well for a long time at Penrith.
Speaker 9 (10:36):
No, not too different, obviously, still got the same personality.
I think one thing that is noticeable though, is his
leadership qualities have gone to another level. I think it
really stepped into that role last year sort of when
I was out with injury for big periods of the year.
He had the seven on his back and took that
real leadership role and a lot of things he says
is it really resonates with the group. He says the
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right things at the right time, and he also says
things were a lot of passion, which is what we
all love about Jerome. He wears hard on his sleeve
when he plays, but also off the field. He's starting
to lean into that a bit more as well and
sort of saying that in the previous camp and in
the early doors of this camp too. Just he's not
afraid to speak up, and yeah, I'm loving that sort
of side of him.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Go on to a thanks for joining us, You're an
absolute champion.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I love your work and good luck next Wednesday night
winning this series decider.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
For the Blues.
Speaker 9 (11:26):
Appreciate it, guys, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Legend he is Nathan Cleary.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But we love a theme in Origin Camp and this
year Billy's channeling Fatty's Nevil's from ninety five. We're not
quite sure the players are getting it though.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Origin series been a big tame for you, guys. Who
do you have in your locker before game one or two?
I had the first game?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I think I had it, Matt Singh I think it was,
and then the first game and then the second one.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which player from the ninety five
series if you had in your locker.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
His name?
Speaker 10 (12:08):
But I like Gilly, you know was Fortunately he coached
me and Os. Then it's good to have Billy watching
Gilly in that ninety five team.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
First there was a bunt too. I think it was
a bun to a couple of years ago, and now
it's the Nevills. Are we surprised at these modes they finished?
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Blokes? I don't remember the team either.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
In fairness, but they're pretty That would have been young, Yeah,
that would have been born.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
It wouldn't have been born five.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
So we're in twenty twenty four now, that's wholly possible.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah, because the and they've got them plasted in their
dressing rooms. Like they alluded to, they should know who
the player that they've sort of partnered up.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
He's adding their preparation all the book God in the
Iron doubt in their knowledge knowledge.
Speaker 8 (13:02):
Yeah, which is true.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
I don't know every number eleven that war coeens and
I know Arthur did.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Yeah, but if they're channeling this theme right, which is
what we're led to believe, then you should know who
wore the jersey before you in that series.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
What's on the armband ninety five is etched on the armbands.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
A really good point.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Game two.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I'm not saying they need to know every.
Speaker 8 (13:24):
I'll have a chat on they'll have it tatooed by
next year.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Otherwise it's a waste of time.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
No, thank you, Solfah, No, I agree, I agree, that's
really hard to argue. Right, you're playing nine ninety five,
you're wearing a jersey that those guys did the unthinkable?
Was it the unthinkable?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
It was?
Speaker 8 (13:47):
You know what I mean? And then are you there?
Speaker 6 (13:49):
I do understand they're going to train or what what
sort of locker you said at because that was in
game one, I do said, But he would have got
it right, Maddie sing Holly was involved and Gilly wore
the number twelve or whatever, so they probably got it right.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But it took them a world To be fair, you
don't need to know every player. You didn't know what
happened that series, how they wanted, what they.
Speaker 8 (14:08):
Were called, and who will be your number?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
That's right, you know, so Blue Fairness fat He didn't
know who benemates all back in ninety five when he
was going to get in the lift. So Billy Will
haven't tapped in for Wednesday night, and I'm sure I'm
sure that he has given him a walk down memory
lane about what was achieved by that time.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Let's get back to the Tigers.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
We had a bit of a full start before we
had to get into Nathan Cleary, but we did deatos
in but there's a bit more to these hoops, and
you've been all over it all day, Talon to Silva
walking out mid season, and then there's a now a
few stories about what's happening at the club at the moment.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
It is a bit of a concern, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Look it is a concern based on the fact that
I think from an outside point of view, some people
look at the Tigers and they think, well, the coaches changed,
the administration has changed, which needed to happen and was
hugely signific But off the back of six straight losses
a sixty four nil thumping by the Melbourne Storm at
Amy Park, it does feel like it's the same theme
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and just a little bit of a different day.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Last week on the show, I said that the Holman
Barnes group were involved in Lachland Galvin's exit. That's not
the case, Rich I made that decision and the West
Tiger's board made that decision the same way that Benji
made the decision around Talon de Silva and letting Talon go.
And I think he's done that because there's a click
at the West Tigers, and it happens at all clubs.
As you Blake snaw click what with the players, with
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the players and Benji, but the senior players and Benji,
And Benji needs buying from his leaders and they lack leaders.
At West Tigers, Happy is one leader. Jerome is the
other leader.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Aside from that.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Aside from that, you try and pick a captain out
of the current West Tigers squad and I think you'd struggle.
So that was why Benji went with, I've got to
keep happy.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
I need to win now.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I don't need to win by the time Talon's ready
at the end of twenty twenty six. I need to
win tomorrow, right, So that's why he's backed him in there.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
But the other factor is Jerome.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
He's got to keep Jerome happy to because Jerome's got
that get out clause that he can activate as of
midway through next season and it can get him out
the following year. So I get what Benji's trying to do.
Speaker 10 (16:17):
It.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
Can I ask you guys a question.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
I don't go on to dress rings, but the most
coaches have that relationship with senior players as well.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Of course, yeah, all the great Well you look at
the Raiders and Ricky Stewart, the relationship he's got with
Joe Tarpenhay and Josh Papali at the moment and go
back to when Cameron Smith played at the Melbourne Storm
and the relationship that he's got with Craig Bellamy Goad
to Penrith, it's the same there Nathan and Isaia with
Of course, to me that seems natural. But I think
where it has caused some rumblings is some of the
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younger players. And we've seen Galvin exit a complete circus, right,
I think some of the younger players do feel as
though there might be some double.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Stand You're happy about or agree with the fact that
they let talent to Silver go and I tend to agree,
and there's a lot that also agree.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Why do you think they shouldn't let him?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Well, it's funny the talk around the senior players this year,
because last year he.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Was the senior players.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
I thought Benji was too cuddly, cuddly with the rookie
players and he fell out with John Bateman and David
Klemor and some of those senior players, right, and because
of some treatment that he perceived treatment that he was
given the likes of Galvin and some of the younger players,
but the talent of silver one. I think it's remarkable
that we got to the point where a kid that
wasn't angling to leave the club, wasn't agitating, was going
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about his business, wanted to be there, and told the
club as much that they let him go eighteen months
early from his contract. I could have understood once they
got to the end of seasons to believe.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Was there no agitation at all? They had to be
sure there was nothing.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
It's a bit promise.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
He's a local junior, he's a Campbelltown kid.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
He wanted to stay. He wanted to stay.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I can't believe he just but he did make it
blatantly clear and rich. I went and sat with his parents.
If you're get to resign, appy, then it's only fair
that I do get the option to have a look
around and.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Just happy to play a second field the next year.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
To happy he was, I didn't think if he will stay,
offered him a long term deal and said, look happy,
he's got twelve more months.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
He's going to be a hooker next year.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
He was quite happy to play off the bench next year,
but in twenty twenty seven he wasn't happy to do
that right, So that was the conversation there and there
are side struggling at the moment. That's spine that they've
put together this weekend. He's nowhere near full strength and
Benji's battling to save his coaching career if it gets
to the point where they're you know, Wooden spoon bound
again and he wasn't great last week telling I get
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that right, but he's an upgrade of some of the
players that were there.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
A West Tigers fan question, is there another number nine
that's seventeen or raighty?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
They're not a good one.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, Jared Haywood is a young system. He is, but
there are big wraps on him. He's Australian schoolboys captain.
That's part of the reasoning why they were happy to
let telling go of had other judges that I try
to tell me that they think Talon's farm advance to
where he is right now.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Now, just you spoke about Benji's relationship with the senior players,
is that is that getting the young players off and
they're looking elsewhere?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
That is clearly, let's.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Call it out for what it is.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Clearly it is because let's you've only got to go
back to the Lachland Galvin Chamozzle and the shambles to
see that he did get the shits about that he
was the golden boy?
Speaker 8 (19:25):
Is this earlier?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Is this a generational thing or is this a problem
for the West Tigers because this never used to happen.
If you're a young guy, and I'm still going a
few of the export Dogs players today about this situation.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
We couldn't comprehend it if you were an exit. And
you know it too.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
When you're a young kid coming into grade, you do
what you're told and you earn, especially at that age,
and you do what the senior players tell you, and
you do what the coach tells you, and eventually you
earn the right to be in that position, to be
a dominant, you know, in whatever it is that you play.
And when you earn that right, you can dictate terms.
Now we we've got young guys.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Don't think that these are the kids that are coming through.
They've got ribbons for coming third.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
They're dictating terms. This is the modern world, breath. It's
not like it was when you want a premiership. I
remember what it was like back at Belmore when.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
We how are we allowing.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Tigers are putting the line in the same game, Well,
hold on that you earn your stripe.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Or just go.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
It happens to the struggling clubs. They're vulnerable because when
players get frustrated, like what happened with Lockey Galvin. He's
the golden haired boy, first year, comes in, debuts at
eighteen straight out of high school, wins all the pre
season testing, forces his way into the side, has a
great season. But then in the background they go out
and by Jerome and Bench's a huge part of that.
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And then when Jerome arrives, all of a sudden, Lockie
goes from being the shiniest toy at the West Tigers
to now Jerome's the main man. And I think that
was what created a big part of the friction.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
And to your point, Draam should always have been the
main man. Coming with four premierships wows test football can.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
As a young kid, that's who you want to play with.
I went to play in Brisbane because I played State
of Origin and I played with Ala Langa and I
went there and it was Glenn Lazarus right, and no
matter what he told me did when I went to
the Dragons, I sat on the bench for three years
because I had Dave Barney or Scott Gooley and Brad
mccaye in front of me. And that was the best
education and apprenticeship that I could have done right to
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turn me into the player that I did, and everybody's
going I should be starting. And then when I got
put back in reserve grade, I wasn't the big dog
there because it was Wally Ford and Smith and other
guy's telling you what's wrong with that system.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
But if the.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Clubs stay strong in these situations and they just say,
if they all just say the players are going to stay,
they sign a contract, they can't leave, and the NFL
back to all the clubs, we won't.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Have this because now is different.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
But it's at a point who's where talent sees Galvin,
Galvin sees someone else, they see something, they're like, well
you know what, and the managers know that so think, okay,
well let's just say this or that, or we'll speak
to them. We'll get agitated, we'll do this, and before
you know, like even it's like I said, was leaving.
He left it in three weeks just because.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
It changed because the agitation and the manipulation and the
agent steam right turned it into bullying. Right as soon
as you get the RPA involved bullying and lawyers.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
That's laughable.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
That's all you look back at that, well, it is
laughable after what he put on social media.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
Talent, it won't change.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
I think it was a club back in ninety five
or ninety six, ninety six it was that made a
kid sit out, and no other club and no other
player wanted to jump ship. And that was through a
time when there was two competitions and everybody was jumping ship.
And as soon as they made a kid sit out,
and that was me, no other player did it right.
And that's what the clubs need to do. Sit there
and the game's got to protect them. And I'm talking
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about the game above and game no no, we are.
We are happy for that kid to sit out and
give the clubs back a little bit of power.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
The thing that surprises me, Broath is when rich I
went to Penrith, right, and it's twenty years ago, but
when he got there he could see that the local
juniors were the future, similar to the way he outlined
that path way. When he got into the West Tigers,
within two years they won a premiership. Now granted, then
when he went to South's it was a little bit different.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
They had a litany of.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Bigger, deeper issues, and it took a lot bigger to fix,
a lot more time to fix, but ultimately they got
there and they smashed a forty three year titled Drought.
It feels as though at the moment he's decided he's
going to give Benji the world. He's going to give
Benji everything he wants Benji to succeed. Well, what happens
with Benji doesn't succeed?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
We know what happens.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, we know what happens all right now reports that
Benji tackled Adam doing your training and it turned into
a fight.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Easy, what's happening?
Speaker 5 (23:41):
There's been there doing the rounds and.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
So good?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Does Benji does a pose work?
Speaker 10 (23:49):
Right?
Speaker 5 (23:49):
He steps in and essentially which I haven't seen coaches do,
runs plays like a half and gets into an opposed work.
And apparently their suggestions are that Adam and Adam Dewey
and and Benji Marshall during one of those a post sessions,
got up and had a bit of a heated altercation.
Whether that was a push and shave or verbal or
anything anything change, but it's what happened.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
Apparently you love that from you, and that's leaked from within.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Oh obviously the many people that saw it were there,
seventeen whatever thirty old players that were there, and.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
That's a bad scene.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
So talking to a couple of the retired champion players and
some have coached as well earlier, and it's such a
dangerous road that because if Benji wax Dewey too hard, well,
all of a sudden, Benji's in the wrong and he's
lost respect that way, or vice versa. If Adam Dewey
sits him on his ass, what does that do in
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terms of Benji's reputation in front of the group. I
just think it's a big no no. Coach Blake's coach
is putting the boots on right.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
I don't think.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Wayne or Belly ate.
Speaker 10 (24:58):
They got wrong on the board.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
But he's younger, he's just retired, not that long ago.
He still carves him up, probably a clinical pick him
this week and a half.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Yes, started last He's He've been doing it since he's
been on the coaching staff.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
So this is not new. The fact that you know
there was some sort of this.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Incident shows that it's fraught with danger can.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Be It can be for if he caves them up
for Tigers fans.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Honestly, I've got a headache right now listening to this. Sorry,
I can only imagine what they're going through. They've had
and then they could see the light at the start
of this year, they could see the light, and then
the Galvin staff and now it's snowboard into this and
here we are.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
You know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Miss Monday's episode, West Tigers CEO Shane Richardson will be
live in studio to answer all the big questions, and
Brad Fittler has explained his decision to knock back the
Kangaroo's coaching job.
Speaker 11 (25:53):
Take a look, there's no fields booked, there's no hotels booked.
Oh really, there's no staff, right, So yeah, it's going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
All right, Yeah, I just that's the first time I've
seen it, and so I don't know the context of
this because I didn't see what happened before that.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
But what was that In response to that? Was that
the reason why he didn't That.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Was apparently according to the podcast, that was a big
part of the reasoning why Freddie decided he didn't want
to take the job as Kangaroo's coach. But they've got
to have a coach before they can sort out.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
The accommodation, doesn't he.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
A coach has to say, I mean god to you.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
When there was a yeah, I thought Mal went over
there like when he was here and he picked the hotel,
You go pick the training pack, Paddi chad around, you
start doing a couple of trips around. I thought that
was something that they'd give the respect to the coach
to pick.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
That's just today. All these things are on hold. Hotel
bookings are on hold, training venues are on hold. So
they're all there. They just need the coach to come
in and as Gordy said, give it the final tick
of approval, because there's no point doing all this leg
work and putting money down in case a coach comes
and changes, wants to change their roster, wants to change
how they train, where they train, and all these sort
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of things.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
They based I think based themselves in Manchester. Correct, How
stay in a place we based ourselves in leads.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
So was that the reason he did knock it back?
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Because he's employed by the NRL too, Freddie in a
different role, so it's interesting that he was quite scathing
on it. But that's apparently that's part of the reason.
The other one was that he thought with his media
commitments he couldn't give him his full self when he
was analyzing players because or comment in on players, because
it gets awkward when he's got to pick them or
drop them, or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
But yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
It was an interesting reason in and it did blindside
the NRL a little bit because they thought that Brad
Feller was going to be the next Kangaroo's coach.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
But it throws it open a little bit now.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Freddie did an outstanding job when he first went in
and reunited a broken, fractured state in the new South
Wales set up. He won a couple of series straight away.
But where it started out a little bit pair shape was
when during Covid and Wayne came out of retirement and
started coaching Queensland again and Mel was involved in that series,
and the Blues wore some scathing criticism for losing a
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series that most people were of the view they should
have won. I wonder if off the back of that,
Freddie then still continued to coach for a couple of
series after that with the Blues, but it felt as
a lot of the criticism really started to sting, and
I wonder if he had some reservations based around that
break that you just I think you'll coach again, But
I just wonder if the timing wasn't quite.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
Right for him, who would you put as coach.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I haven't even thought about it, to be honest, but
I've heard Kevin Smith's being tossed up. And you know,
I could see Kevin Smith doing it because it suits him.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
I do believe you've had to have played for the Jersey.
There's so many like there's like, there's enough guys that
are coaching that have played for the Jersey, all won
multiple premission.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
What about like a Bennett Stuart Bellamy like club.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
I love Wayne and I've heard rumors that he wants
to coach.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
He wants it, but.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
He's coached Australia, then he's coached New Zealand, and he's
coached England. I think you've done the trifecta seriously.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
But he's a career Coach's allowed really good so he
went and worked for a really good point.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Where's his footy side now?
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Sixteenth?
Speaker 8 (29:20):
So he goes away for the whole preseason.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Well, he doesn't come in for the pre season anyway.
I think they need to go there.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
You go, well, maybe he might have to start doing that.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I think they need to get the best candidate in
all seriousness, and if that means changing this rule, this
outdated rule that we can't have a club coach anymore,
because I wouldn't have an issue if it was Wayne,
if it was Ricky. To your point about someone who's
worn the jumper. Yes, Keavy Walders is another one who
springs to mind.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
If I'm coaching a club and my blog's going to
go and focus and go away and not set up
a preseason and have my guys ready for March, he's
not doing it. I pay him the biggest slice of
the pie. So you either pick one or the other,
and that's me.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
It does depend on the club setup. You're right, they're
go right.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I think if you want someone that's played for Australia,
that would rule out Craig Melany, right.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
But Craig Melanie.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
Got away.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Melbourne an't going to fall apart, right, So it just
depends on on the club, right, So I agree with
you into it a certain extent. It depends on how
that club is placed. If you're struggling, then you want
your coach there right. If you're Penrith or Melbourne, who've
done it a thousand times before Ricky, are established coaches,
then I think they could do it. I don't have
an issue with a club coach doing but if it's
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not a club what about.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Club coaches when they go away in the past and
you'd go away and Bose would pick you if you
went and played.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I don't think that what happened anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I don't I.
Speaker 8 (30:40):
Don't want to spend.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
No no in terms of no no, they're get in
your ear. But I don't think they're going to say no,
of course they get in your ear.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Hello.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
I don't think they're going to say, oh, if you
come and swim with me, you're going to play for
Australia like it was back in the day. But I
think it opens up the doors to coaches infiltrading the
current setup. That may rather out loud then well, as
soon as it happens, god, there'll be some drama.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Enough.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
We had a huge reaction to South discussion last night.
Is the criticism around the club justified?
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Yeah, I think it's warranted.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
You've only got a look at where they're sitting on
the ladder and the fact that a spare parts Dolphin's
side that were missing more than two million dollars out
of their forward pack put fifty points on them last
Saturday night. And I think when Wayne came into South
Sydney and they got that initial sugar hit and the
word around the game was it was all about coaching.
You know, Jason Demetrio clearly had lost the magic touch.
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But now Wayne's back, he's galvanized the group. He's simplified it.
He's got him flying again. But to me, it's it's
key position players break. They've had no continuity. The Trail's
been on rep duty a lot. Katie keeps getting injured.
I think he's had force off tissue injuries. That's a
big risk back and for another year at his age
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when he's already climbed them out and so many times
got him so close to that Grand Final in twenty
twenty one. I just feel as though they've made some
big recruitment blunders.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Yeah, are they going to make some more? Well, it's
it's I need some forwards. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
I think they're balance of that roster is all out
of whack. Right where you look at where some of
the money that they've invested in it, and look, there's
no doubt, respect well, there's no doubt they've had the
worst injury run over in the last three seasons of
any club.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
There's no doubt about that. Right.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
You can sit there and break it all down and
that's an easy excuse, right, But you look at the
players they've brought in and what value they've brought to
the club. The high profile recruits. You've got Jack Whiden,
You've got Lewis Dodge, you've got Sean Kepy. If you're
the high profile guys that haven't had an impact. Jack
Whydon arrived as a test player in New South Wales
player on eight hundred thousand dollars a season and whilst
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his efforts being commendable, he hasn't broken the game open
like he did at camera. To the point Canberra we're
going to offer him more than a million dollars a season.
It's interesting the fact that they're going to resign Cody
Walker because Jack Whden's original deal four years. He's got
two more years left on that deal. The original plan
was to playhim at center for two years. Then in
the third year, shifting back into the halves to partner
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whoever the half back may be. At that time it
was Lucky Ilia, so there's been lots of change. It's
easy to point the finger at Lewis Dodds recruitment and
that mistake or perceived mistake, but he hasn't had an
opportunity in the top grade or an extended run in
the top grade where some of these other players have,
and they haven't lived up to their price tags either.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Well, this will take along along with merely in this
weekend and we'll keep an eye on it now journo,
as you'll keep playing matchups for around eighteen thanks to Ossie.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Broadbeing Friday Night Broth the Bulldogs up against the Bronco
Selwyn Cobbo back into the side with Rus Walsh on
state of origin, Judy, I think you'll have a point
to prove up against Connetration.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Yeah, therell may for the Tigers up against the Sydney
Roosters and Nafarhu White's been really good for the Roosters
this year, so I like that matchup in the middle
of the field.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Beautiful hoops outstanding as all ways. Up next, it's the
Legends agenda with Ben Alias and Jeff two.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
What
Welcome to L three sixty Rugby League from every angle
joining me in the great good and talent. Let's bring
the Jono Australian Joanes super Michael will carry artists and
we have Nathan Cleary's standing by.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We're just about to interview him.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
But the Tales of Tigertown, they continue to drag on
what's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Lock going on at West Tiger's. At the moment breath
we know Talon de Silver has left this week Shane Richardson,
the West Tiger CEO. It feels as though he's really
put the ball back in Benji Marshall's quarter as a
head coach. Benji needs to try and make this work
because if he doesn't, rich has given him the course
to the Ferrari and told him you make it fly.
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And if it doesn't, well then we all know how
this could possibly end.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yeah, it's a really interesting situation.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Obviously, before drinth, who would have thought we got to
this day before June thirty that Lock of Galvin and
Tullon the Silver would be out the door. Obviously Lock
of Galvin situation was completely different to the Talent of
Silver one. But if one was very surprised that they
allowed him out of the club before June thirty.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Tell them what do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Gordy. We spoke about it last night, but there's been
a few stories.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Today that have come out that have gone a little
bit deeper into the camp at the time.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Yeah, look the Galvin story where that was a bit cloudy.
But with with talent, the silver a loan system, Appy
corrousl the age that what he's at. I thought it
was strange for the future of the organization. But if
Benji thinks that it's best for the roster now and
he's coaching in the next couple of years, well do
you go with the coach or do you go with
the future. I would probably tended to go with the
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future if I was the CEO, but they chose to
go with the coach, and.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
That's what's coming to lot today. Gordy eraise.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
A great point is that when rich At first got
his feet under the desk at the West Tigers, one
of his big announcements that he put out of the
members of the club was where a development club, we
need to invest in our local juniors. We're not going
to be you know, we've made mistakes previously under previous
administrations going out and wasting good money after bad on
trying to bring players into the place. We need to
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invest in the future, and that's where the decision around
Lockie Galvin looked. That was the shambles and it's completely
different circumstances to talent. But in Talent's case, he wanted
to remain at the club. But I think to back
Benji Marshall, Richo has had to support him and allow
him to make the happy decision. There's a number of
facets to that. A big part of it is also
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Jerome Lewi's role at the club now, he's got two
get out clauses. He and Happy are the leaders of
that club. So Benji needs to keep those senior figures
happy to ensure his own job security, to try and
win games, to ensure his long term coaching tenure.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
We're going to have Richie on the show next week,
so we're going to have a chat to him on
heavy hitters and see whether at the club. We'll pack
this a little bit more later on there we've got
anything clearly about the join us, but let's talk a
little bit at the Blues now. He five players didn't
train with the group today or the team. Have you
got an information on this?
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Yeah, so obviously Jerome Louis Nathan clear. We're among those
paining Hess Huts and young Brian Toll or were either
limited or didn't train.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Look, it's still a week out from.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
The game, so it's obviously not panic station is the
one the most concerned about is Brian Toll. But that's
why they got Jacob kraz In and around the squad.
So no real issues for for the Blues except for
Brian Toll heading into games three.
Speaker 8 (03:29):
Sounds you blokes are doing the Queensland.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Down there. You guys play it up, do we or you.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
Guys play it one of the two?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Loving this that we're in.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
I'll tell you what after Game one watching Crichton, limp
Off and pain Ass not training, I don't have any
worries for you.
Speaker 8 (03:48):
I don't have one concern.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I think they've called five extra players in just the.
Speaker 8 (03:55):
You got five to call it.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I had some concerns when I heard that there were
five players that didn't participate the fact that the halves
are training separately to the rest of the entire squad.
I know it's only early days in the camp, but
Laurie Daily spoke on this program earlier in the week
and we've read at length quite attributed to him, where
he says, you've got to know all the preparation.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
To me, I.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Worrying signs, but I reckon these guys with Nathan like
that have the game plan down. Pat You would think
they've played a lot of footy together. But if they're
training them by sad day and they can switch in
the gear, I don't think it'll.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Be a problem to you guys.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
It's not uncommon for this stage of the year for
multiple players not to train early part of the week.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It isn't no this time of the year. They're backing
up playing two games now again. We'll last Nathan, clearly
it is. But is this his final frontier? You know
a lot of people he has been successful in Origin
and we spoke about that with Bulldog, Richie and Cruels
on last night, but he hasn't won a decider, he
hasn't been in a winning decider, and he's done everything
else in the game. He's going to be a great
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at our game, but this would mean a lot to him.
Winn't to win this one on Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Well, Nathan's the best half back in the game, no question.
To win four Premierships the way that he has. He's
won World Cups for Australia, he's won three State of
Origin series, he's won a Brad Fittler Medal. But the
true champions of New South Wales, Andrew Johnson, Ricky Stewart,
they did win series, they did win series deciding games.
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So this probably is the final final box.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You'll do it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I believe I do as well. I think I think
this will be his best Origin ever. And as I said,
he's had a lot of success and he's doing a
great job. Actually, let's get to it. Let's cross line
with a great man.
Speaker 8 (05:37):
He is in Blues camp with New South Wales.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Nathan Cleary joins us now on the jo true Blue
Mike and Nathan, you've had a great career, you've achieved
it or we just spoke about it. What would it
mean to you to win an Origin decider for New
South Wales on Wednesday night?
Speaker 9 (05:56):
Yeah, honestly, it made the world to me. It feels
like I've been saying I've been longing for for a while.
I've been lucky enough to win series but haven't quite yet.
Jumped the hurdle of Winter Decider, so I love the
opportunity to do it, love the challenge, and yeah, real
looking forward to next Wednesday night.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
How's the growing Obviously struggled there in game two with it,
you still played very well and you played great against
the Bulldogs, But how is it and are you kicking game?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Where are you at with that? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (06:26):
It's feeling good, honestly, feeling better every day. So I'm
really happy with where it's at now. It's obviously just
building the King game into it, very confident with the
general play. Kick in the goal kicking sort of a
different story. But yeah, other than that, Yeah, feeling really.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Good, Nathan.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
It's cool to hear made after being so dominant in
game one, what went wrong in game two? And what
does New South Wales have to do to win this cider?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (06:52):
I think our first half in game two just simply
wasn't good enough. It wasn't up to any stand, any
regul league stand letlone origin standard. Just our discipline, then
compound with errors and then compound with poor defense and
also just our set finishes and all that, We're pretty poor.
I was really happy with the fight back in the
second half. But to give a team like Queens and
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that sort of lead, yeah, it's very hard to run
down and we couldn't couldn't do that, So yeah, I
just got to focus on ourselves and getting those things right.
They've won rugby league games for over one hundred years now,
just simple stuff holding the ball and defending well, not
giving away penalties. So yeah, that's our main folks at
the moment.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Nathan, it's James Hooper. The Blues forwards were so dominant
in the opening game from the opening set and then
the script was completely flipped in the opening half of
game two. What do you think needs to change in
that area of the game.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
I think it just refers back to what I was
talking about just before. I think, you know, field position
and possession goes a long way to helping those sort
of things, and getting on the front foot also sort
of where we're finishing our sets as well, a long
way with that too, So you know, I think at
the end of the day, if you'll defending the lot,
you're a lot more tired, so you're not doing as
much of the ball, and I was dominant, so you're
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just trying to get to even share a possession and
trying to win that field position battle.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Nathan Michael, carry on, So you're among five players that
didn't train or were limited today. Where are the rest
of the boys out in terms of their fitness? I
guess the most concern around your pen of teammate Brian Tol.
Speaker 9 (08:25):
Yeah, he's tracking well, another one that's getting better every day.
I think it's just sort of precautionary early in the week.
Me and Jerome will definitely a training tomorrow, so today
was sort of just a primer for tomorrow. A few
other boys boys might take a bit longer, particularly busier,
but very confident that he'll be out there next Wednesday night,
which is the most important.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Nathan, kaylen Pong has gone down. The Hemmer comes in. Now,
what does that change for you guys? As the opposing
team is New South Wales? What threat does the hem
oppose that maybe Kaitlyn didn't know. Where are they different
that you've got to look out for?
Speaker 9 (09:01):
I think they post similar threats to be honest. Obviously
the hammer speeds electric. He brings the X factor much
like Kaitlin did. So yeah, we're definitely gonna have to
be a a game defensively, particularly on the edges, probably
more so with the hammer he's in around the ruck
and on those off floads, just with his speed and
you know just the way you can tear through defenses
so quickly. I just need to be on high alert
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anytime those Queensland forwards have the ball, and also anytime
they shift in it. So it's kind of all across
the board. But you know they've got a lot of
X factor all through their team, so it's not so
much less to focus on who's coming into fullback. It's
sort of where we went wrong last game with our
defense and trying to correct that.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Nathan, You've played under some great coaches, your old man, Malmaninger, Freddie.
What are Laurie Daily's best strengths.
Speaker 9 (09:51):
I think he's just very personable, to be honest. He's
just a great bloke first and foremost, and then you
just see his passion coming out in the way he speaks,
and I really enjoy that. You know, I probably didn't
get to watch much of Low's play Origin, but Dad
always tells me that he's probably the best Origent player
he's ever seen, So that's high praise. But you'd never
think that just the way you talk to me is
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a very humble man. He talks a lot about his downfalls,
more so than is what he did well. But you know,
the passion is there and that's the most important thing
and it always comes out when he speaks.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So love listening to him.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
He touched on Jerome earlier, Mate reunited with him in
game two and again in game three. Is he any
different from the bloke that you partnered a couple of
well for a long time at Penrith.
Speaker 9 (10:36):
No, not too different, obviously, still got the same personality.
I think one thing that is noticeable though, is his
leadership qualities have gone to another level. I think it
really stepped into that role last year sort of when
I was out with injury for big periods of the year.
He had the seven on his back and took that
real leadership role and a lot of things he says
is it really resonates with the group. He says the
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right things at the right time, and he also says
things were a lot of passion, which is what we
all love about Jerome. He wears hard on his sleeve
when he plays, but also off the field. He's starting
to lean into that a bit more as well and
sort of saying that in the previous camp and in
the early doors of this camp too. Just he's not
afraid to speak up, and yeah, I'm loving that sort
of side of him.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Go on to a thanks for joining us, You're an
absolute champion.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I love your work and good luck next Wednesday night
winning this series decider.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
For the Blues.
Speaker 9 (11:26):
Appreciate it, guys, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Legend he is Nathan Cleary.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But we love a theme in Origin Camp and this
year Billy's channeling Fatty's Nevil's from ninety five. We're not
quite sure the players are getting it though.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Origin series been a big tame for you, guys. Who
do you have in your locker before game one or two?
I had the first game?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I think I had it, Matt Singh I think it was,
and then the first game and then the second one.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which player from the ninety five
series if you had in your locker.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
His name?
Speaker 10 (12:08):
But I like Gilly, you know was Fortunately he coached
me and Os. Then it's good to have Billy watching
Gilly in that ninety five team.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
First there was a bunt too. I think it was
a bun to a couple of years ago, and now
it's the Nevills. Are we surprised at these modes they finished?
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Blokes? I don't remember the team either.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
In fairness, but they're pretty That would have been young, Yeah,
that would have been born.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
It wouldn't have been born five.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
So we're in twenty twenty four now, that's wholly possible.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah, because the and they've got them plasted in their
dressing rooms. Like they alluded to, they should know who
the player that they've sort of partnered up.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
He's adding their preparation all the book God in the
Iron doubt in their knowledge knowledge.
Speaker 8 (13:02):
Yeah, which is true.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
I don't know every number eleven that war coeens and
I know Arthur did.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Yeah, but if they're channeling this theme right, which is
what we're led to believe, then you should know who
wore the jersey before you in that series.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
What's on the armband ninety five is etched on the armbands.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
A really good point.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Game two.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I'm not saying they need to know every.
Speaker 8 (13:24):
I'll have a chat on they'll have it tatooed by
next year.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Otherwise it's a waste of time.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
No, thank you, Solfah, No, I agree, I agree, that's
really hard to argue. Right, you're playing nine ninety five,
you're wearing a jersey that those guys did the unthinkable?
Was it the unthinkable?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
It was?
Speaker 8 (13:47):
You know what I mean? And then are you there?
Speaker 6 (13:49):
I do understand they're going to train or what what
sort of locker you said at because that was in
game one, I do said, But he would have got
it right, Maddie sing Holly was involved and Gilly wore
the number twelve or whatever, so they probably got it right.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But it took them a world To be fair, you
don't need to know every player. You didn't know what
happened that series, how they wanted, what they.
Speaker 8 (14:08):
Were called, and who will be your number?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
That's right, you know, so Blue Fairness fat He didn't
know who benemates all back in ninety five when he
was going to get in the lift. So Billy Will
haven't tapped in for Wednesday night, and I'm sure I'm
sure that he has given him a walk down memory
lane about what was achieved by that time.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Let's get back to the Tigers.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
We had a bit of a full start before we
had to get into Nathan Cleary, but we did deatos
in but there's a bit more to these hoops, and
you've been all over it all day, Talon to Silva
walking out mid season, and then there's a now a
few stories about what's happening at the club at the moment.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
It is a bit of a concern, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Look it is a concern based on the fact that
I think from an outside point of view, some people
look at the Tigers and they think, well, the coaches changed,
the administration has changed, which needed to happen and was
hugely signific But off the back of six straight losses
a sixty four nil thumping by the Melbourne Storm at
Amy Park, it does feel like it's the same theme
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and just a little bit of a different day.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Last week on the show, I said that the Holman
Barnes group were involved in Lachland Galvin's exit. That's not
the case, Rich I made that decision and the West
Tiger's board made that decision the same way that Benji
made the decision around Talon de Silva and letting Talon go.
And I think he's done that because there's a click
at the West Tigers, and it happens at all clubs.
As you Blake snaw click what with the players, with
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the players and Benji, but the senior players and Benji,
And Benji needs buying from his leaders and they lack leaders.
At West Tigers, Happy is one leader. Jerome is the
other leader.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Aside from that.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Aside from that, you try and pick a captain out
of the current West Tigers squad and I think you'd struggle.
So that was why Benji went with, I've got to
keep happy.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
I need to win now.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I don't need to win by the time Talon's ready
at the end of twenty twenty six. I need to
win tomorrow, right, So that's why he's backed him in there.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
But the other factor is Jerome.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
He's got to keep Jerome happy to because Jerome's got
that get out clause that he can activate as of
midway through next season and it can get him out
the following year. So I get what Benji's trying to do.
Speaker 10 (16:17):
It.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
Can I ask you guys a question.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
I don't go on to dress rings, but the most
coaches have that relationship with senior players as well.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Of course, yeah, all the great Well you look at
the Raiders and Ricky Stewart, the relationship he's got with
Joe Tarpenhay and Josh Papali at the moment and go
back to when Cameron Smith played at the Melbourne Storm
and the relationship that he's got with Craig Bellamy Goad
to Penrith, it's the same there Nathan and Isaia with
Of course, to me that seems natural. But I think
where it has caused some rumblings is some of the
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younger players. And we've seen Galvin exit a complete circus, right,
I think some of the younger players do feel as
though there might be some double.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Stand You're happy about or agree with the fact that
they let talent to Silver go and I tend to agree,
and there's a lot that also agree.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Why do you think they shouldn't let him?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Well, it's funny the talk around the senior players this year,
because last year he.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Was the senior players.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
I thought Benji was too cuddly, cuddly with the rookie
players and he fell out with John Bateman and David
Klemor and some of those senior players, right, and because
of some treatment that he perceived treatment that he was
given the likes of Galvin and some of the younger players,
but the talent of silver one. I think it's remarkable
that we got to the point where a kid that
wasn't angling to leave the club, wasn't agitating, was going
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about his business, wanted to be there, and told the
club as much that they let him go eighteen months
early from his contract. I could have understood once they
got to the end of seasons to believe.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Was there no agitation at all? They had to be
sure there was nothing.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
It's a bit promise.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
He's a local junior, he's a Campbelltown kid.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
He wanted to stay. He wanted to stay.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I can't believe he just but he did make it
blatantly clear and rich. I went and sat with his parents.
If you're get to resign, appy, then it's only fair
that I do get the option to have a look
around and.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Just happy to play a second field the next year.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
To happy he was, I didn't think if he will stay,
offered him a long term deal and said, look happy,
he's got twelve more months.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
He's going to be a hooker next year.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
He was quite happy to play off the bench next year,
but in twenty twenty seven he wasn't happy to do
that right, So that was the conversation there and there
are side struggling at the moment. That's spine that they've
put together this weekend. He's nowhere near full strength and
Benji's battling to save his coaching career if it gets
to the point where they're you know, Wooden spoon bound
again and he wasn't great last week telling I get
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that right, but he's an upgrade of some of the
players that were there.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
A West Tigers fan question, is there another number nine
that's seventeen or raighty?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
They're not a good one.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, Jared Haywood is a young system. He is, but
there are big wraps on him. He's Australian schoolboys captain.
That's part of the reasoning why they were happy to
let telling go of had other judges that I try
to tell me that they think Talon's farm advance to
where he is right now.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Now, just you spoke about Benji's relationship with the senior players,
is that is that getting the young players off and
they're looking elsewhere?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
That is clearly, let's.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Call it out for what it is.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Clearly it is because let's you've only got to go
back to the Lachland Galvin Chamozzle and the shambles to
see that he did get the shits about that he
was the golden boy?
Speaker 8 (19:25):
Is this earlier?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Is this a generational thing or is this a problem
for the West Tigers because this never used to happen.
If you're a young guy, and I'm still going a
few of the export Dogs players today about this situation.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
We couldn't comprehend it if you were an exit. And
you know it too.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
When you're a young kid coming into grade, you do
what you're told and you earn, especially at that age,
and you do what the senior players tell you, and
you do what the coach tells you, and eventually you
earn the right to be in that position, to be
a dominant, you know, in whatever it is that you play.
And when you earn that right, you can dictate terms.
Now we we've got young guys.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Don't think that these are the kids that are coming through.
They've got ribbons for coming third.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
They're dictating terms. This is the modern world, breath. It's
not like it was when you want a premiership. I
remember what it was like back at Belmore when.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
We how are we allowing.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Tigers are putting the line in the same game, Well,
hold on that you earn your stripe.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Or just go.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
It happens to the struggling clubs. They're vulnerable because when
players get frustrated, like what happened with Lockey Galvin. He's
the golden haired boy, first year, comes in, debuts at
eighteen straight out of high school, wins all the pre
season testing, forces his way into the side, has a
great season. But then in the background they go out
and by Jerome and Bench's a huge part of that.
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And then when Jerome arrives, all of a sudden, Lockie
goes from being the shiniest toy at the West Tigers
to now Jerome's the main man. And I think that
was what created a big part of the friction.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
And to your point, Draam should always have been the
main man. Coming with four premierships wows test football can.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
As a young kid, that's who you want to play with.
I went to play in Brisbane because I played State
of Origin and I played with Ala Langa and I
went there and it was Glenn Lazarus right, and no
matter what he told me did when I went to
the Dragons, I sat on the bench for three years
because I had Dave Barney or Scott Gooley and Brad
mccaye in front of me. And that was the best
education and apprenticeship that I could have done right to
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turn me into the player that I did, and everybody's
going I should be starting. And then when I got
put back in reserve grade, I wasn't the big dog
there because it was Wally Ford and Smith and other
guy's telling you what's wrong with that system.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
But if the.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Clubs stay strong in these situations and they just say,
if they all just say the players are going to stay,
they sign a contract, they can't leave, and the NFL
back to all the clubs, we won't.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Have this because now is different.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
But it's at a point who's where talent sees Galvin,
Galvin sees someone else, they see something, they're like, well
you know what, and the managers know that so think, okay,
well let's just say this or that, or we'll speak
to them. We'll get agitated, we'll do this, and before
you know, like even it's like I said, was leaving.
He left it in three weeks just because.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
It changed because the agitation and the manipulation and the
agent steam right turned it into bullying. Right as soon
as you get the RPA involved bullying and lawyers.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
That's laughable.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
That's all you look back at that, well, it is
laughable after what he put on social media.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
Talent, it won't change.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
I think it was a club back in ninety five
or ninety six, ninety six it was that made a
kid sit out, and no other club and no other
player wanted to jump ship. And that was through a
time when there was two competitions and everybody was jumping ship.
And as soon as they made a kid sit out,
and that was me, no other player did it right.
And that's what the clubs need to do. Sit there
and the game's got to protect them. And I'm talking
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about the game above and game no no, we are.
We are happy for that kid to sit out and
give the clubs back a little bit of power.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
The thing that surprises me, Broath is when rich I
went to Penrith, right, and it's twenty years ago, but
when he got there he could see that the local
juniors were the future, similar to the way he outlined
that path way. When he got into the West Tigers,
within two years they won a premiership. Now granted, then
when he went to South's it was a little bit different.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
They had a litany of.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Bigger, deeper issues, and it took a lot bigger to fix,
a lot more time to fix, but ultimately they got
there and they smashed a forty three year titled Drought.
It feels as though at the moment he's decided he's
going to give Benji the world. He's going to give
Benji everything he wants Benji to succeed. Well, what happens
with Benji doesn't succeed?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
We know what happens.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, we know what happens all right now reports that
Benji tackled Adam doing your training and it turned into
a fight.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Easy, what's happening?
Speaker 5 (23:41):
There's been there doing the rounds and.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
So good?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Does Benji does a pose work?
Speaker 10 (23:49):
Right?
Speaker 5 (23:49):
He steps in and essentially which I haven't seen coaches do,
runs plays like a half and gets into an opposed work.
And apparently their suggestions are that Adam and Adam Dewey
and and Benji Marshall during one of those a post sessions,
got up and had a bit of a heated altercation.
Whether that was a push and shave or verbal or
anything anything change, but it's what happened.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
Apparently you love that from you, and that's leaked from within.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Oh obviously the many people that saw it were there,
seventeen whatever thirty old players that were there, and.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
That's a bad scene.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
So talking to a couple of the retired champion players and
some have coached as well earlier, and it's such a
dangerous road that because if Benji wax Dewey too hard, well,
all of a sudden, Benji's in the wrong and he's
lost respect that way, or vice versa. If Adam Dewey
sits him on his ass, what does that do in
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terms of Benji's reputation in front of the group. I
just think it's a big no no. Coach Blake's coach
is putting the boots on right.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
I don't think.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Wayne or Belly ate.
Speaker 10 (24:58):
They got wrong on the board.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
But he's younger, he's just retired, not that long ago.
He still carves him up, probably a clinical pick him
this week and a half.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Yes, started last He's He've been doing it since he's
been on the coaching staff.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
So this is not new. The fact that you know
there was some sort of this.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Incident shows that it's fraught with danger can.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Be It can be for if he caves them up
for Tigers fans.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Honestly, I've got a headache right now listening to this. Sorry,
I can only imagine what they're going through. They've had
and then they could see the light at the start
of this year, they could see the light, and then
the Galvin staff and now it's snowboard into this and
here we are.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
You know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Miss Monday's episode, West Tigers CEO Shane Richardson will be
live in studio to answer all the big questions, and
Brad Fittler has explained his decision to knock back the
Kangaroo's coaching job.
Speaker 11 (25:53):
Take a look, there's no fields booked, there's no hotels booked.
Oh really, there's no staff, right, So yeah, it's going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
All right, Yeah, I just that's the first time I've
seen it, and so I don't know the context of
this because I didn't see what happened before that.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
But what was that In response to that? Was that
the reason why he didn't That.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Was apparently according to the podcast, that was a big
part of the reasoning why Freddie decided he didn't want
to take the job as Kangaroo's coach. But they've got
to have a coach before they can sort out.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
The accommodation, doesn't he.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
A coach has to say, I mean god to you.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
When there was a yeah, I thought Mal went over
there like when he was here and he picked the hotel,
You go pick the training pack, Paddi chad around, you
start doing a couple of trips around. I thought that
was something that they'd give the respect to the coach
to pick.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
That's just today. All these things are on hold. Hotel
bookings are on hold, training venues are on hold. So
they're all there. They just need the coach to come
in and as Gordy said, give it the final tick
of approval, because there's no point doing all this leg
work and putting money down in case a coach comes
and changes, wants to change their roster, wants to change
how they train, where they train, and all these sort
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of things.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
They based I think based themselves in Manchester. Correct, How
stay in a place we based ourselves in leads.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
So was that the reason he did knock it back?
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Because he's employed by the NRL too, Freddie in a
different role, so it's interesting that he was quite scathing
on it. But that's apparently that's part of the reason.
The other one was that he thought with his media
commitments he couldn't give him his full self when he
was analyzing players because or comment in on players, because
it gets awkward when he's got to pick them or
drop them, or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
But yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
It was an interesting reason in and it did blindside
the NRL a little bit because they thought that Brad
Feller was going to be the next Kangaroo's coach.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
But it throws it open a little bit now.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Freddie did an outstanding job when he first went in
and reunited a broken, fractured state in the new South
Wales set up. He won a couple of series straight away.
But where it started out a little bit pair shape was
when during Covid and Wayne came out of retirement and
started coaching Queensland again and Mel was involved in that series,
and the Blues wore some scathing criticism for losing a
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series that most people were of the view they should
have won. I wonder if off the back of that,
Freddie then still continued to coach for a couple of
series after that with the Blues, but it felt as
a lot of the criticism really started to sting, and
I wonder if he had some reservations based around that
break that you just I think you'll coach again, But
I just wonder if the timing wasn't quite.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
Right for him, who would you put as coach.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I haven't even thought about it, to be honest, but
I've heard Kevin Smith's being tossed up. And you know,
I could see Kevin Smith doing it because it suits him.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
I do believe you've had to have played for the Jersey.
There's so many like there's like, there's enough guys that
are coaching that have played for the Jersey, all won
multiple premission.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
What about like a Bennett Stuart Bellamy like club.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
I love Wayne and I've heard rumors that he wants
to coach.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
He wants it, but.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
He's coached Australia, then he's coached New Zealand, and he's
coached England. I think you've done the trifecta seriously.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
But he's a career Coach's allowed really good so he
went and worked for a really good point.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Where's his footy side now?
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Sixteenth?
Speaker 8 (29:20):
So he goes away for the whole preseason.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Well, he doesn't come in for the pre season anyway.
I think they need to go there.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
You go, well, maybe he might have to start doing that.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I think they need to get the best candidate in
all seriousness, and if that means changing this rule, this
outdated rule that we can't have a club coach anymore,
because I wouldn't have an issue if it was Wayne,
if it was Ricky. To your point about someone who's
worn the jumper. Yes, Keavy Walders is another one who
springs to mind.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
If I'm coaching a club and my blog's going to
go and focus and go away and not set up
a preseason and have my guys ready for March, he's
not doing it. I pay him the biggest slice of
the pie. So you either pick one or the other,
and that's me.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
It does depend on the club setup. You're right, they're
go right.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I think if you want someone that's played for Australia,
that would rule out Craig Melany, right.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
But Craig Melanie.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
Got away.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Melbourne an't going to fall apart, right, So it just
depends on on the club, right, So I agree with
you into it a certain extent. It depends on how
that club is placed. If you're struggling, then you want
your coach there right. If you're Penrith or Melbourne, who've
done it a thousand times before Ricky, are established coaches,
then I think they could do it. I don't have
an issue with a club coach doing but if it's
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not a club what about.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Club coaches when they go away in the past and
you'd go away and Bose would pick you if you
went and played.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I don't think that what happened anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I don't I.
Speaker 8 (30:40):
Don't want to spend.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
No no in terms of no no, they're get in
your ear. But I don't think they're going to say no,
of course they get in your ear.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Hello.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
I don't think they're going to say, oh, if you
come and swim with me, you're going to play for
Australia like it was back in the day. But I
think it opens up the doors to coaches infiltrading the
current setup. That may rather out loud then well, as
soon as it happens, god, there'll be some drama.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Enough.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
We had a huge reaction to South discussion last night.
Is the criticism around the club justified?
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Yeah, I think it's warranted.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
You've only got a look at where they're sitting on
the ladder and the fact that a spare parts Dolphin's
side that were missing more than two million dollars out
of their forward pack put fifty points on them last
Saturday night. And I think when Wayne came into South
Sydney and they got that initial sugar hit and the
word around the game was it was all about coaching.
You know, Jason Demetrio clearly had lost the magic touch.
(31:42):
But now Wayne's back, he's galvanized the group. He's simplified it.
He's got him flying again. But to me, it's it's
key position players break. They've had no continuity. The Trail's
been on rep duty a lot. Katie keeps getting injured.
I think he's had force off tissue injuries. That's a
big risk back and for another year at his age
(32:03):
when he's already climbed them out and so many times
got him so close to that Grand Final in twenty
twenty one. I just feel as though they've made some
big recruitment blunders.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Yeah, are they going to make some more? Well, it's
it's I need some forwards. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
I think they're balance of that roster is all out
of whack. Right where you look at where some of
the money that they've invested in it, and look, there's
no doubt, respect well, there's no doubt they've had the
worst injury run over in the last three seasons of
any club.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
There's no doubt about that. Right.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
You can sit there and break it all down and
that's an easy excuse, right, But you look at the
players they've brought in and what value they've brought to
the club. The high profile recruits. You've got Jack Whiden,
You've got Lewis Dodge, you've got Sean Kepy. If you're
the high profile guys that haven't had an impact. Jack
Whydon arrived as a test player in New South Wales
player on eight hundred thousand dollars a season and whilst
(32:52):
his efforts being commendable, he hasn't broken the game open
like he did at camera. To the point Canberra we're
going to offer him more than a million dollars a season.
It's interesting the fact that they're going to resign Cody
Walker because Jack Whden's original deal four years. He's got
two more years left on that deal. The original plan
was to playhim at center for two years. Then in
the third year, shifting back into the halves to partner
(33:12):
whoever the half back may be. At that time it
was Lucky Ilia, so there's been lots of change. It's
easy to point the finger at Lewis Dodds recruitment and
that mistake or perceived mistake, but he hasn't had an
opportunity in the top grade or an extended run in
the top grade where some of these other players have,
and they haven't lived up to their price tags either.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Well, this will take along along with merely in this
weekend and we'll keep an eye on it now journo,
as you'll keep playing matchups for around eighteen thanks to Ossie.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Broadbeing Friday Night Broth the Bulldogs up against the Bronco
Selwyn Cobbo back into the side with Rus Walsh on
state of origin, Judy, I think you'll have a point
to prove up against Connetration.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Yeah, therell may for the Tigers up against the Sydney
Roosters and Nafarhu White's been really good for the Roosters
this year, so I like that matchup in the middle
of the field.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Beautiful hoops outstanding as all ways. Up next, it's the
Legends agenda with Ben Alias and Jeff two.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
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