Catch up on all the Rugby League news from NRL 360, Monday July 14th, with hosts Braith Anasta and Gorden Tallis.
The boys are joined by Brent Read and Buzz to discuss the news that the Knights will part ways with Adam O'Brien. The boys also chat through is Ponga will see out his contract and which coaches are under the most pressure.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Three sixty Rugby League from every angle, brought to you
by Fort Everest joining me again in the Great Gordon Talents.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So it's been the journey Buzz Roth and Brent Reid.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
A massive day in Newcastle with breaking news around their
coach and their captain. It started with the coach Rudy,
but now there's talk around Kaylin Ponger.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
What's going on.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah, the convias has been whispers around Callen Ponger for
some time in rugby union. He's contracted the Knights till
the end of twenty twenty seven, but an agent, a
New Zealand based agent rugby union agent, has been shopping
Calen around Europe. Now, I've been in contact with the
Ponger camp today and there I didn't really get a
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straight answer out of them, but what I gleaned from
their text messages is if he's been shopped around Europe,
it's been done without their them giving him the agent
of green light.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
But that's what's having the man with Calm Ponger. He's
been shocked.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
His name has been mentioned by this revel rugby competition
that's going on at the moment, So he is on
the radar of rugby and club's break.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Very interesting buzz. The coach Adam O'Brien, what's the latest.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Well, i'll do it. Latest says yes. At about two o'clock,
I've got a text message from someone saying Adam O'Brien's
gone at the Newcastle Knights and will happen this week.
The story has now got out. They're now saying Adam
O'Brien will be punted from the Knights at the end
of the season. I've spoken to Peter Park, I've spoken
to Adam O'Brien. They do not know where the stories
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come from. He's made the finals for the last five years.
Adam O'Brien. I think there's legs to the story. I
think he's really struggling to hold onto that job. The
problem these clubs have got right now is there's only
a few quality coaches left. If they don't go for
Hannah Now, if they don't go for Willie Peters. Now
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they're worried the Cowboys will be at the Titans. So
everyone's getting news about when to strike and get the
coach they want.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Does came upoon and have any clauses in his contract Now.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It's a straight contract, so I would say if he's
being shopped to other sports, then that's in breach of
his book.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
There's always been a question mark over Kaitl and his
future at Newcastle, whether he's happy there, does he sees
success there, He wants to win premierships, he wants to
play rugby union, and he's close to Adam O'Brien. So
you think if Adam O'Brien won't be there next year,
the future of him Caitlin at this club is in doubt.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Right Well, I think it's been doubt for a while
both regardless not I think the club will talk to
Kayleen tomorrow about now the story has come out to
get some clarity around what's actually happening and what Caylen
wants to do down the track with his future. Obviously,
as I said, contract for two years there. But these
whispers just been going round around and then you hear
that his name is on the radar of European rugby
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union clubs. His name's been talked about over there. That's
a concern for the Is there a chance buzz I'll
come to you? Is there a chance that Newcastle could
let him go? Given the money he's on and the
results they've had there over the past few years.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Well, the way he's playing. You make a really really
good point because outside of the first two or three games,
he's had a really ordinary season for the highest paid
play in rugby league and he sort of limped his
way into that Origin team, didn't he when Reese Walsh
wasn't available and they didn't think of the hamlet fullback.
What I find with this story it so reminds me
of Sunny Bill Williams all those years ago. He had
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a water tight contract at the Canterbury Bulldogs. He just
took off. It was a court case. He lost the
court case. He had to borrow money from Anthony Mundine
to pay a significant amount of money to Canterby to
get out of that contract. If Caitln has done this,
whether the agent's acting with Caitlin's approval, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But yeah, trouble.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah, I don't think. Why don't think Calu go down
that path?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I think if he wanted to leave rugby league and
go to rugby Union at the end of the season,
he'll sit down with the Knights and look.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
They were crazy to let him go.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Well they got They've got Fletcher Shark. He's on about
one point four one point three one point four million dollars.
He's missed the task past two seasons, large chunks of
it with Liz Frank injuries, so that haven't but Jurius,
but the Karlen it's injury related. But they haven't really
got their value for money out of him. And as
I said, they've got Fletcher Shark coming through, they got
Dylan Brown going the next year. Maybe if Karlen sat
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down with them and said, look, I want to go
and try n't want to play for the All Blacks,
I'm not sure they would say no to him.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Gordy.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I think they would at least have a conversation.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Well, do you think that the Knights are paying more
than what the All Blacks would be willing to pay?
Brad Dawn went across it was for less money. You
don't walk to the All Blacks and go over there
all more money to go to Europe.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Make yes. Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
As for your suggestion that the Knights wouldn't want to
let him go, I have a wait. The last few years,
I've regarded Ponger in the top three players in the game,
up there with Cleary et cetera. On form we've seen
this shoe is not the top ten. He's slipped quite substantially.
And when you're paying the highest paid player in the
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league one point five million dollars, it might be a
wise salary cap move with this usay Fletcher sharp around
to offloading.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Well, he's twenty seven, so at the deal what he'll
get off he'll be thirty when he signs his new deal.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah somewhere else. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I mean, he's out of a football and I'd hate
to see him leave the cove because he's been a star.
He's one of the biggest stars in our game. You
hate to see him go. But as I said, I
think the Knights will now sit down with him now
that we've broken their story. They'll sit down within the
next twenty four hours and they'll try to get some
clarity around what Calm wants.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
It's a bit frustrating because Kaylen is a superstar and
has always had the potential to be the best player
in our game, but just struggled to stay on the
field for a long period of time and show us
what he's got for long periods, you know. And I
think Newcastle have been hurt by that with results, right.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
The interesting thing is too Peter Sullivan told me probably
twelve weeks ago I did a big interview with him
about signing Dylan Brown and was wasted money. He said
he's next target was Ponger, and twelve weeks ago he said,
I'll see Andre and I'll see Ponger in about three
or four weeks and then I'll show them that we got,
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you know what we got to offer.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
What about Dylan Brown? Yeah, okay like that that situation.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Well, it's exactly what I was thing when Buzz said that.
Then I thought, imagine what Dylan Brown thinks right now,
because he thinks he's going to Newcastle to play with
Calm Ponger and that's a lure for him, I imagine.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
So to think that maybe he won't if you're.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Dylan Brown, I mean, that's gotta that's got to be
a shock for you.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Calen needs to come out and make a statement. He's
got so many fans.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Up, he's your men.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Well, I've reached out, brother reached out. We got back
to me today.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
But he just said anything for me they did there
was he just said thanks for reaching out, or was appreciated.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
He didn't say. I didn't say that, and that's a
good session.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Andreas said, Look, there's always noise around us in the nights.
You know, we're not basically not going to add to
the noise. So so he gave you some information, some informay,
not a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Not the answer.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
It doesn't sound like you dug all that heard you would.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
He wouldn't have responded to break a buzzer. That's the problem.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Im to show him a phone.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You've been digging all day and you love to dig.
Adam O'Brien, what have you got for us?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Is it an absolutely crisis? What's what's the story?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Well, they've had a really really disappointing year and their injuries.
They were being up there with the southne Rabbits, there
two worst affected clubs. As I said, I've got a
text message yesterday. But the blow torches on him. He's
made the finals for the next year. No, I don't
think you'll be there next year. I think the Knights
are getting into a situation. I said at the top,
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they're starting to think about next year and if we
don't grab handape, we don't grab Peters, do.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
We go bright up?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
And they don't want to be beaten to the Titans
are looking for a coach, the Cowboys might be looking
for a coach. West Tigers might be looking. So it's
become this four club.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I reckon that's really harsh.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
So I think he's made the four finals as you've
seen five years. I think he deserves to start next
year and they start next year. Paula, Yeah, I think
he does because I think they've had a horrific injury
toll this year. I mean Karlin's going to miss end
up missing half the seasons, missed a lot of footy,
and I think Adam, given his record in recent seasons,
he deserves to question do.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
You think they're a better side now from Nada and
Brian got there too.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Where they are now? Do you think that.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
I'll defend him there because when he started the club
it was on the back of about three wooden spoons,
so he has done better. But he went up and
now he's on the way back down.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
This year is but injuries played such a big part
in that.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
We've seen all the sides who have labored this year
except the Gold Coast have all that massive injury problems.
The Gold Coast of the exception, they haven't. They've just
had a crap year. But a lot of the others
have struggled, struggle with injuries and that's why you look
at Souse and we're going to talk about them at
some point of the Knights. The injuries have killed them.
And again the recruitment hasn't been great because they haven't
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nailed behalves.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Before we move on.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So if Adam O'Brien is gone for next year, do
they have a preference who coaches?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Newcastle have to have someone in the barrel.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
I keep hearing Brad Arthur and his two sons are
there now.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
He's best mates with Adam O'Brien. Imagine he came and
took his job well, like best mates. I think Brad's
got Adam's godfather one of his children, isn't he. So
let's just find that the same manager, no different managers.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'm here and Blake Green's there.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
They love him, that's true.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I also heard that.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
A big reason Dylan Brown went there was because of
Blake Green and the pitch that he put to him,
so that again he wanted to keep the fourteen men.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Or play happy as well.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
And it's the interesting thing is Peter Parr in Sis
he's the CEO, insists nothing's happening. But they've got a
brutal board headed by Phil Gardner who just makes decisions
and won't bring the rest into the loop until he's
actually made them.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Does he know what he's doing, He'll gone.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I think Phil Gardner runs Pokey's really well, bistros really well.
But he's not a rugby league man. He's built an
empire with that West gros Or. I think the ceties
up there are very good. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I want to keep it all mad.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
I was answering your question from a.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Bit of gravy too.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Are we several cases seemingly fighting for their futures? Cracks
begin to show over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Do you want more time with the club? Make student
to turn this around?
Speaker 6 (10:39):
I mean, which you've seen You've seen all the reports
about where you're going to do.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
No, but and I don't take any notice to report
the speculation.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's unfounded. The results we just haven't gotten.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
The game that we are in is a result driven business.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
The day the club feels like I'm not the right
guy that'll take care of himself and take these jobs.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You understand what comes with it.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
The reason I do this job is because I want
to turn the club around, and I actually believe that
I can.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I feel like I'm seeing my eulogy. I'm good, mate,
I'm all good.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Watch the team that was connected and fighting hard throughout
that whole eighty minute period. We've got some parts of
our game that costing us steely and I'm losing sleep
at night working out how.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
To fix it. Okay, Bars, I've been looking forward to
this all day.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
You've put together a coaching pressure gauge.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I was asked by the producer to put together a
pressure gauge.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's the oud effects of it. And yeah, there are five.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Where do you rate these coaches? Buzz take the floor?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Well, death has I got ten out of ten? He's
gone and I know he was in denial yesterday. Unless
he retirees on his own relition or his own decision,
he will be removed by that clause in his contract.
It won't be a court case. He's gone. I've lifted
out of my Brian up to nine point.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Five started what do you start the day at?
Speaker 5 (12:03):
He started as an eight point five. But there are
developments in rugby league as by the the more phone
calls you mad and I do want to tell you.
I spoke to Peter part and I spoke to Adam
as well. I had a good chat to Adam and
I also spoke to another key figure at that club
before forming this opinion that he's in major, major strife.
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Now Todd Peyton at the Titan at the Cowboys, they've
won one of six, the twelfth on the ladder. The
last few weeks the Dolphins and the Roosters combined to
put one hundred points on them. He has five or
six State of origin players. They went into week two
of the finals last year. I think their management up there,
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and I know the CEO is moving on. I think
the management up there are looking at other options.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Doing their a really soft run home to the cow
a softer run home.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Now, Benji eight out of ten. He was joking about
his own eulogy yesterday. They've won one out of eight.
Rich Ol is on record, the great rich I was
saying he'll be coaching next year. But the one went off,
the one loss off the bottom of the ladder, and
I think he's under pressure.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Finally we're going to die one day.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yeah, they are Finally I've given him a six.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
He can write one. He's writing the eulogy.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yeah, Steeves, I've got us a six out of ten.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
He should be higher. Yeah, they're running seven eighth.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
They're in the ape.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
But at the beginning of the year, where you thought
they were going to be. I thought they'd be top
four and the Roosters signed their captain for what to
win a camp apparently.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yeah, with Sebs, I still think to be iron clad
certainty of keeping his job, he needs to make the age.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I think because we thought at the start of the
most did our top four club?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Top four?
Speaker 5 (14:02):
All right, there are your rankings, mate.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
All right, thank you, that was fantastic. Now is he
gone or not? Like I thought he was gone? Everyone
said he was gone. I was waiting for the announcement.
I actually thought it happened. I'd seen it that much
and heard it. But it hasn't. What's going on.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
I spoke to desk Friday. He says he's not gone.
I don't think that he's been brought into the picture
of the position they're in. I think they're waiting till
it's spath and medal impossible for him to make the
top eight. I think that's now really is well, No,
if he won every.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Game, sixteen points left in the competition, you know the
Titans better than that yesterday, and we'll turn tell us
something I haven't heard it, So we don't want to
keep on second coaches. And as he was there and
everybody thought we'd be in a better position, and for
some reason.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
There's been some very heavy stuff written. And Peter Badell
and Travis Main did how his sheds and that a
kid there in the side read about his first grade
tobo and the telegraph on the website wasn't even told
didn't get his jumper, but all that sort of thing, and.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
That what's coming out of there at the moment.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
You're right, yeah, but look, it's more.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Alarming the way they're playing. I mean, I loved as
as a blake, right, but I think his ways are outdated.
I think it's with due respect to doubt dares, I
think he's become a bit of a dinosaur.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
If you're going to coach on the.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Gold Coast, a place that needs more promotion, it's there
under section the AFL. What does he do to promote
the game up there? Cuts his press conferences off after
three minutes, sits after does his press conference after games,
gets up and walks out.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I mean, you've got to promote the game. Doesn't promote
the game.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
On the Gold Coast.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
This is the thing that I find annoying. It's one
thing to lose footy games.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Look, that happens, right, and that's what coaches get judged by.
But on the Gold Coast it's different. Gravy Man, you're
under assault from the AFL. You've got to promote the game,
because that's what the AFL do up there. They promote
the hell out of the game.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
At that joint.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Really, conferences get moved left right and so then it
goes anymore.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
There's a little bit of nonsense there. I tell you
what the nonsense is. The coach is not a pr guy,
Yes he is. He's not Wayne Bennett. Press conferences best
in the business man?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Are you serious?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
You don't think he gets one or two word answers
every now and then?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
If the media better than anyone? Buzz?
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Can he reallyship people privately and loads you up and
all that sort of thing. I'm saying somebody's press conferences
are pretty.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Order of them.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Problem is not one of them. Problem is not his
pr that's like us blowing up about Origin players not
speaking to us. That's wrongs. His problem is he's not
winning fully games. We're on the bottom of the lane.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
That's an issue.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
It's nothing to do.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
But also think if you're upset the.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Local journals because he won't do four minute press comms,
he's doing three.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Maybe he moves and all the time buzz players are
never up for media because there is pulling him out
of media media.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I'm not caring foreign on the little world done well.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
That's because the Greg Kirwan's retorian.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Yeah, look, I think DESI could do that at a big,
powerful club like Brisbane when you're on the gold case
and there's a lot of transit people and a lot
of holiday goals that might want to come to the game.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
The more they see a guy they're promoting. I think
it does help.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
When I had to go Wayne minute, because there'd be
you know, the Swan's coach was Kevin Sheady. They're kicking
balls over planes and all that early in the morning
and Wayne would brush them. And I think there is
a responsibility of the coaches to sell the game.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I should have got I should have called the Donald.
That was respect what I think some of his way comment.
I'm attracting that comment. Desk, I apologize. You shouldn't called
your dinos. Some of de ways our old school.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
And they don't. They did work on the gold.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Case, the reverse button.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
It was a She's been a great coach.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I was Wayne Gravy Man.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
We'll get to that lass.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Never heard anyone back flip in sixties when you're.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
About to soon.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Has been great for the game. I just think it's done.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
My bra.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
You start running six. No one would worry if his
press conference was a three minute STrenD. But they're not.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
They run, stay, they come and last, just to keep
the information on a mission to avoid their third straight
last Bulldogs cash camera. Serudo swung the axe on his
prize signing and it worked.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Bulldogs now on the attack.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
Marty to kick out a tackle, Spail, Oh he is Superman.
Drink water on the pertue, tin and cowboys, McLean labor,
j FT stacks, check and let slide. Urdon light signed
kicked and getting through Preston.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That was up. That was too easy.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
Extra points Hayward Burton.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
They're not at the moment.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
Tracy on to Joanna, he's got rid of Shatra, rid
of cover, becomes a dread scorer in the NRL.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I think it's in the stars.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
Dean a dummy and riders dren Curer that's in the
stars as well.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Or did he loads out lost it?
Speaker 8 (19:11):
He's like at all over the line Cowboys re Ben
against Worldall and kick for the lead and he loses possession.
Love Derby throws a watermelon passpect to Labor, says to
your best pay off loads drink water. Diner Winer kicked
in a corner. Did Ny the cab up Nights takes
(19:34):
a dad Canterbury within the contests and a courageous weed
with the Bulldogs on their own.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
That was the turning point thanks to Ashley and Martin
Medical hair Centers, Buzz to drop.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Or not to drop? You're talking Galvin story you wrote
this morning?
Speaker 5 (19:56):
I wrote this morning the Tobby Sexton and Red Marni
had got them into the top four and should stay
in the football side, and that Galvin, I don't like
him sitting in a coaching box, should probably keep his
match conditioning up and go and play news last Cup
a few weeks That was my opinion. I have since
learnt this will not be the case. They couldn't give
(20:19):
us stuff what I've written, obviously, because I am now
told that there were huge concerns about the Bulldog's attack,
not just in recent weeks, but since the beginning of
the season. I've got the stats here. Storm have scored
five hundred and seventeen points, Raiders have scored four sixty
two points, The Bulldogs have scored three hundred and sixty
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six points. Manly Roosters, Sharks and Dolphins have all scored
more points than there's a worry about their attack. I'm
hearing that they're at tempted now to put Galvin in,
start him at half back, stop the debate, stop the speculation,
get some coesion and Paul Old Toby Sex. I have
not changed my opinion.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
That sounds a good idea. I swear I said it
a week ago.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Well you know what you have, you have a million
ideas and you finally got one ride. Well done.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Come. I think it's a.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
It was right from the dogs, just you know, just
to cut the head off on the weekend and stop
trying to keep everybody happy. And if they go with Galvin,
go with Galvin. But picking at seven or picking at
six and just run with it, don't try to keep
the whole squad happy.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Wat watching the game on the.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Weekend, I thought, this team, the way they're attacking camp,
win the camp.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It was really an eye opener to me.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I was hoping they would improve put going back to
the team that.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
They did have, but they didn't.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Their defense has been amazing and won them this game.
Now what really concerned me was playing the team that's
got the worst defense in the competition and they only
scored the points that they did. So I went and
had to look at the numbers, and this was Sexton's
numbers compared to the others top four teams at the
moment in attack. If you look at Hughes fifteen games,
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six tries, nine and try assists forty seven, tackle bus
eight line breaks Metcalf, he's played less games than Sexton.
Eight tries, eleven, tryasis, eight line breaks, thirty three tackle
bus Foguti even there sixteen games, two tries eight and
you can see the numbers compared to Sexton down.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
The bottom right.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
So this is in no line breaks, so he hasn't
made one line break all a year Sexton, So this
is what I'm thinking. You know what, I can see
what sorialdo c is but he's got to make the call.
He's got to make the call if he wants to
win a premiership. We'll have a chance of winning a premiership.
And he doesn't think Sexton can do it in that
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key position and execute the way that they need it,
then put Galvin at seven and just do it now,
just do.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
It now here as soon as he signed is a
big picture, long term signing that he was going to
deliver the premierships that Gus told us about that it
would be in a year or two, maybe even three years.
That's why they signed him long term. Cameron is obviously
of the opinion there were a chance of winning the
comp this year, but not with the attacking processes they
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have in place right now. And that's why Sexton will
be I believe, removed from the side in the next week.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It goes back to what we said in the preseason,
early in the season break about the spine and I
doubt whether they ad a spine that could win a premiership,
but I think Galvin gives him that because he adds
another dimension to them, which you respect to tab sext
and He's done a really serviceable job, but he can't
do a lock and Galvin he's a good football to
prove himself.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I'm not going to take back that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I don't think it's a distraction still what's going on.
I do, But I also do think.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Do you think breaks an instruction while it's up in
the air.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, you're just going to make up in the air.
That's why I'm saying I need to make it cool.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
You know, there's been too much stuff and around and
they've probably been unsure of it. They've wanted to show
respect to Sext and give him an opportunity. He's had
his opportunity and he hasn't been poor well either. You know,
they still weren't winning games. You know, they've only got
just beaten by Penris. So it's a tough one to make,
very hard coooll. And as long as the players, this
is a big thing for me that I've been strong on.
As long as the playing group and the senior players
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are on the same page as the coach and agree
and don't feel aggrieved by the players like Sexton and
many in their situation. If they're comfortable and they want
Galvin and that seven Jersey and they think they're more
chances of win the comp with Galvin chuck him in.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
And you know what, Cameron Surround on a very short
period of time has proved himself to be an emerging
super coach, you know, a guy who's going to win premierships.
And as much as I wanted sex and to stay
that sex and stay there on the score of loyalty,
I can understand. I can understand, and this decision.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
You're on board now, but I like it.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
No, no, but the dogs probably thought that Sextem was
going to this is gainus.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Like I mean, and then that made the decision easier
if sext And failed.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
And he didn't fail. He just kept on doing his
job and playing well.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I think the thing really too is sometimes you can
look too far ahead. They've got a window of opportunity. Now,
you don't know what's going to happen next year. You
don't know what's going to happen the year after. You
don't know what injury are going to get. You talk
about Seaous, you talk about other teams that've got injuries.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And let's wipe them out.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Well, they don't have injuries, They've just got key positions.
To take care and they've got a chance to win
a camp this year. So sometimes you can look too
far ahead and miss those those windows of opportunity.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
This is one for them. Where do you get that from? Okay?
Speaker 5 (25:43):
The Bulldogs are averaging twenty two point eight points per game,
Melbourne Storm ra averaging thirty two point three. That's why this decision.
I find it very hard on Sexton, but I can understand.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So before we move on, you can see that Rudy
was right and that he got it right.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Will concede that was so long over due.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
To again.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Last Bennett criticism as laughable after buzz questions the age
of the great supercoach.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Had a big day. I have look.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I wrote a piece this morning that souths are running
second last and last year, so I was cup second
lasting flag and I've had a few people reach out
to me, not me saying this that is Wayne Bennett
still up with the modern game. And it was, you know,
it was. It was a nasty thing to print, but
you know people are asking me these things. I actually
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would never disrespect Wayne. I was on an Immortal's judging
power last year and I actually pushed for him to
become an immortal, not that player that nine hundred for
coaching games, plus the fact that he played for Australia,
plus the fact he's won seven Hemanship.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
So it was not so I.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Couldn't get the support in the room. I just wanted
to prove I'd never disrespect him. That's how highly I
think of it. But the bottom line is they're going
like absolute bustards this year. They've had a shocking run
with injuries, which I credit them, and Wayne has a
massive job on his hand to drag them out of this.
This is what I'm surprised that he even put in
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for the Kangaroo's job. I think in September October that
club needs a massive review to work out where they're heading.
You look at clubs like Paramatta and with Ralph's there,
they've struggled too, but you can see future there. You
look at other clubs that lower on the ladder, there's
a couple of them. They've got kids coming through. I
can't see those kids at this house reading. I don't
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know where they're next.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
Do you think do you think Wayne put his hand
up for the Australian job to get a bit of
aura back, Because when you're the Australian coach.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
You get a bit more power.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
And well it's a press seed.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I think Wayne likes doing that job. I think he
likes the idea of doing the idea of doing asses
to as well. Obviously, well when you do, if you
do the job now, but I don't think you should
have to.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
But that's another debate, Gordy.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I mean I think, yeah, I think I think you're
harsh on Wayne Buzz because I think their injury record
this year, and I think the issue hasn't just been.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Their injury record.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
It's the injury record on top of the recruitment in
the last couple of years when Wayne wasn't necessarily there,
they haven't recruited well the last couple of YEARSS injuries
or recruitment.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
You can't separate.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
You can't separate because I think one's injuries last year,
which is unlucky.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
If you have and if you have injuries, and if
you make a decision, if you've recruited poorly, then you
get injuries. It compounds the poor recruitment. I think they
work together. But if you recruit smart that you can
cover for injuries sometimes, but if you recruit poorly, which
is what they've Done's in charge of recruitment, Mark Ellison.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
I suppose last week when I said it was a
recruitment blunder to learn down Reynolds go, you said it
was rubbish.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
No, I said that you can't go back four years
and blame that.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Well, because I said you can't.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Plenty of chances to get it right from them and
they haven't got it right.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Well, so who are you going to blame? LUI start on, Well,
I think we.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Grade.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I don't know that we've ever got to the bottom.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Of Wayne surely would have rubber stamped. He wouldn't come
to a new club and spend elite money on a
that's one they've.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Got obviously got wrong.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Great mystery. It's great, isn't it a great mystery?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
It's one that got wrong obviously because that doesn't worked,
you know, having you know, this is South Sydney, this
isn't the Gold Coast time.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
The position there is just unacceptable across all grades. And
Blake Solely and Wayne need to sit down as soon
as round twenty seven is done and they need to
find a way out of this hole.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Don't don't don't agree us even with hit players. They've
got to be a job on their hands, the bunnies. Now,
let's take a.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Look at our sports Bet Player of the Round nominees
around at nineteen and here they are and Nicholas High.
What a game it was from him, clutch for the
Kronella Sharks. Drame Hughes again four try assists standing out
for the Melbourne Storm, Chanelle Harris, Tavita for the Warriors
with two tries.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Buzz Nico is back.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
As I said, he's from one point one million dollars
and he played like a one point one million dollar
play the other night. It was so great, great to
see his confidence. He's two tries. The Dolphins came home hard.
But Nick him. I haven't even curtain him around the
coffee shop.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
He might have good to see him those moments, clutch moments.
I mean, he's actually looking at the stats today, of
all the harms, when I was looking at Sexton's, I
saw Nikos and he's had the most line break assists
I think. So he creates a lot of opportunities and
he's very dangerous. It's just the big moments that that
he has struggled with. Hopefully this is, you know, the
monkey off the back and.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
There's such a different side break when he plays or
we saw that didn't we're there are they're the side,
but he plays well there the side. Do you think
they can challenge potentially for a premiership now? Have done
too much damage already, but it's great to seem smiling
and happy.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
So it's been the journey Buzz Roth and Brent Reid.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
A massive day in Newcastle with breaking news around their
coach and their captain. It started with the coach Rudy,
but now there's talk around Kaylin Ponger.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
What's going on.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah, the convias has been whispers around Callen Ponger for
some time in rugby union. He's contracted the Knights till
the end of twenty twenty seven, but an agent, a
New Zealand based agent rugby union agent, has been shopping
Calen around Europe. Now, I've been in contact with the
Ponger camp today and there I didn't really get a
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straight answer out of them, but what I gleaned from
their text messages is if he's been shopped around Europe,
it's been done without their them giving him the agent
of green light.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
But that's what's having the man with Calm Ponger. He's
been shocked.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
His name has been mentioned by this revel rugby competition
that's going on at the moment, So he is on
the radar of rugby and club's break.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Very interesting buzz. The coach Adam O'Brien, what's the latest.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Well, i'll do it. Latest says yes. At about two o'clock,
I've got a text message from someone saying Adam O'Brien's
gone at the Newcastle Knights and will happen this week.
The story has now got out. They're now saying Adam
O'Brien will be punted from the Knights at the end
of the season. I've spoken to Peter Park, I've spoken
to Adam O'Brien. They do not know where the stories
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come from. He's made the finals for the last five years.
Adam O'Brien. I think there's legs to the story. I
think he's really struggling to hold onto that job. The
problem these clubs have got right now is there's only
a few quality coaches left. If they don't go for
Hannah Now, if they don't go for Willie Peters. Now
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they're worried the Cowboys will be at the Titans. So
everyone's getting news about when to strike and get the
coach they want.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Does came upoon and have any clauses in his contract Now.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It's a straight contract, so I would say if he's
being shopped to other sports, then that's in breach of
his book.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
There's always been a question mark over Kaitl and his
future at Newcastle, whether he's happy there, does he sees
success there, He wants to win premierships, he wants to
play rugby union, and he's close to Adam O'Brien. So
you think if Adam O'Brien won't be there next year,
the future of him Caitlin at this club is in doubt.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Right Well, I think it's been doubt for a while
both regardless not I think the club will talk to
Kayleen tomorrow about now the story has come out to
get some clarity around what's actually happening and what Caylen
wants to do down the track with his future. Obviously,
as I said, contract for two years there. But these
whispers just been going round around and then you hear
that his name is on the radar of European rugby
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union clubs. His name's been talked about over there. That's
a concern for the Is there a chance buzz I'll
come to you? Is there a chance that Newcastle could
let him go? Given the money he's on and the
results they've had there over the past few years.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Well, the way he's playing. You make a really really
good point because outside of the first two or three games,
he's had a really ordinary season for the highest paid
play in rugby league and he sort of limped his
way into that Origin team, didn't he when Reese Walsh
wasn't available and they didn't think of the hamlet fullback.
What I find with this story it so reminds me
of Sunny Bill Williams all those years ago. He had
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a water tight contract at the Canterbury Bulldogs. He just
took off. It was a court case. He lost the
court case. He had to borrow money from Anthony Mundine
to pay a significant amount of money to Canterby to
get out of that contract. If Caitln has done this,
whether the agent's acting with Caitlin's approval, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But yeah, trouble.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah, I don't think. Why don't think Calu go down
that path?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I think if he wanted to leave rugby league and
go to rugby Union at the end of the season,
he'll sit down with the Knights and look.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
They were crazy to let him go.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Well they got They've got Fletcher Shark. He's on about
one point four one point three one point four million dollars.
He's missed the task past two seasons, large chunks of
it with Liz Frank injuries, so that haven't but Jurius,
but the Karlen it's injury related. But they haven't really
got their value for money out of him. And as
I said, they've got Fletcher Shark coming through, they got
Dylan Brown going the next year. Maybe if Karlen sat
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down with them and said, look, I want to go
and try n't want to play for the All Blacks,
I'm not sure they would say no to him.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Gordy.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I think they would at least have a conversation.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Well, do you think that the Knights are paying more
than what the All Blacks would be willing to pay?
Brad Dawn went across it was for less money. You
don't walk to the All Blacks and go over there
all more money to go to Europe.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Make yes. Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
As for your suggestion that the Knights wouldn't want to
let him go, I have a wait. The last few years,
I've regarded Ponger in the top three players in the game,
up there with Cleary et cetera. On form we've seen
this shoe is not the top ten. He's slipped quite substantially.
And when you're paying the highest paid player in the
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league one point five million dollars, it might be a
wise salary cap move with this usay Fletcher sharp around
to offloading.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Well, he's twenty seven, so at the deal what he'll
get off he'll be thirty when he signs his new deal.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah somewhere else. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I mean, he's out of a football and I'd hate
to see him leave the cove because he's been a star.
He's one of the biggest stars in our game. You
hate to see him go. But as I said, I
think the Knights will now sit down with him now
that we've broken their story. They'll sit down within the
next twenty four hours and they'll try to get some
clarity around what Calm wants.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
It's a bit frustrating because Kaylen is a superstar and
has always had the potential to be the best player
in our game, but just struggled to stay on the
field for a long period of time and show us
what he's got for long periods, you know. And I
think Newcastle have been hurt by that with results, right.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
The interesting thing is too Peter Sullivan told me probably
twelve weeks ago I did a big interview with him
about signing Dylan Brown and was wasted money. He said
he's next target was Ponger, and twelve weeks ago he said,
I'll see Andre and I'll see Ponger in about three
or four weeks and then I'll show them that we got,
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you know what we got to offer.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
What about Dylan Brown? Yeah, okay like that that situation.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Well, it's exactly what I was thing when Buzz said that.
Then I thought, imagine what Dylan Brown thinks right now,
because he thinks he's going to Newcastle to play with
Calm Ponger and that's a lure for him, I imagine.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
So to think that maybe he won't if you're.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Dylan Brown, I mean, that's gotta that's got to be
a shock for you.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Calen needs to come out and make a statement. He's
got so many fans.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Up, he's your men.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Well, I've reached out, brother reached out. We got back
to me today.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
But he just said anything for me they did there
was he just said thanks for reaching out, or was appreciated.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
He didn't say. I didn't say that, and that's a
good session.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Andreas said, Look, there's always noise around us in the nights.
You know, we're not basically not going to add to
the noise. So so he gave you some information, some informay,
not a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Not the answer.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
It doesn't sound like you dug all that heard you would.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
He wouldn't have responded to break a buzzer. That's the problem.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Im to show him a phone.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You've been digging all day and you love to dig.
Adam O'Brien, what have you got for us?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Is it an absolutely crisis? What's what's the story?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Well, they've had a really really disappointing year and their injuries.
They were being up there with the southne Rabbits, there
two worst affected clubs. As I said, I've got a
text message yesterday. But the blow torches on him. He's
made the finals for the next year. No, I don't
think you'll be there next year. I think the Knights
are getting into a situation. I said at the top,
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they're starting to think about next year and if we
don't grab handape, we don't grab Peters, do.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
We go bright up?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
And they don't want to be beaten to the Titans
are looking for a coach, the Cowboys might be looking
for a coach. West Tigers might be looking. So it's
become this four club.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I reckon that's really harsh.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
So I think he's made the four finals as you've
seen five years. I think he deserves to start next
year and they start next year. Paula, Yeah, I think
he does because I think they've had a horrific injury
toll this year. I mean Karlin's going to miss end
up missing half the seasons, missed a lot of footy,
and I think Adam, given his record in recent seasons,
he deserves to question do.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
You think they're a better side now from Nada and
Brian got there too.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Where they are now? Do you think that.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
I'll defend him there because when he started the club
it was on the back of about three wooden spoons,
so he has done better. But he went up and
now he's on the way back down.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
This year is but injuries played such a big part
in that.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
We've seen all the sides who have labored this year
except the Gold Coast have all that massive injury problems.
The Gold Coast of the exception, they haven't. They've just
had a crap year. But a lot of the others
have struggled, struggle with injuries and that's why you look
at Souse and we're going to talk about them at
some point of the Knights. The injuries have killed them.
And again the recruitment hasn't been great because they haven't
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nailed behalves.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Before we move on.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So if Adam O'Brien is gone for next year, do
they have a preference who coaches?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Newcastle have to have someone in the barrel.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
I keep hearing Brad Arthur and his two sons are
there now.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
He's best mates with Adam O'Brien. Imagine he came and
took his job well, like best mates. I think Brad's
got Adam's godfather one of his children, isn't he. So
let's just find that the same manager, no different managers.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'm here and Blake Green's there.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
They love him, that's true.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I also heard that.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
A big reason Dylan Brown went there was because of
Blake Green and the pitch that he put to him,
so that again he wanted to keep the fourteen men.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Or play happy as well.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
And it's the interesting thing is Peter Parr in Sis
he's the CEO, insists nothing's happening. But they've got a
brutal board headed by Phil Gardner who just makes decisions
and won't bring the rest into the loop until he's
actually made them.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Does he know what he's doing, He'll gone.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I think Phil Gardner runs Pokey's really well, bistros really well.
But he's not a rugby league man. He's built an
empire with that West gros Or. I think the ceties
up there are very good. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I want to keep it all mad.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
I was answering your question from a.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Bit of gravy too.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Are we several cases seemingly fighting for their futures? Cracks
begin to show over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Do you want more time with the club? Make student
to turn this around?
Speaker 6 (10:39):
I mean, which you've seen You've seen all the reports
about where you're going to do.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
No, but and I don't take any notice to report
the speculation.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's unfounded. The results we just haven't gotten.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
The game that we are in is a result driven business.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
The day the club feels like I'm not the right
guy that'll take care of himself and take these jobs.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You understand what comes with it.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
The reason I do this job is because I want
to turn the club around, and I actually believe that
I can.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I feel like I'm seeing my eulogy. I'm good, mate,
I'm all good.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Watch the team that was connected and fighting hard throughout
that whole eighty minute period. We've got some parts of
our game that costing us steely and I'm losing sleep
at night working out how.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
To fix it. Okay, Bars, I've been looking forward to
this all day.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
You've put together a coaching pressure gauge.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I was asked by the producer to put together a
pressure gauge.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's the oud effects of it. And yeah, there are five.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Where do you rate these coaches? Buzz take the floor?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Well, death has I got ten out of ten? He's
gone and I know he was in denial yesterday. Unless
he retirees on his own relition or his own decision,
he will be removed by that clause in his contract.
It won't be a court case. He's gone. I've lifted
out of my Brian up to nine point.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Five started what do you start the day at?
Speaker 5 (12:03):
He started as an eight point five. But there are
developments in rugby league as by the the more phone
calls you mad and I do want to tell you.
I spoke to Peter part and I spoke to Adam
as well. I had a good chat to Adam and
I also spoke to another key figure at that club
before forming this opinion that he's in major, major strife.
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Now Todd Peyton at the Titan at the Cowboys, they've
won one of six, the twelfth on the ladder. The
last few weeks the Dolphins and the Roosters combined to
put one hundred points on them. He has five or
six State of origin players. They went into week two
of the finals last year. I think their management up there,
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and I know the CEO is moving on. I think
the management up there are looking at other options.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Doing their a really soft run home to the cow
a softer run home.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Now, Benji eight out of ten. He was joking about
his own eulogy yesterday. They've won one out of eight.
Rich Ol is on record, the great rich I was
saying he'll be coaching next year. But the one went off,
the one loss off the bottom of the ladder, and
I think he's under pressure.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Finally we're going to die one day.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yeah, they are Finally I've given him a six.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
He can write one. He's writing the eulogy.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yeah, Steeves, I've got us a six out of ten.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
He should be higher. Yeah, they're running seven eighth.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
They're in the ape.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
But at the beginning of the year, where you thought
they were going to be. I thought they'd be top
four and the Roosters signed their captain for what to
win a camp apparently.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yeah, with Sebs, I still think to be iron clad
certainty of keeping his job, he needs to make the age.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I think because we thought at the start of the
most did our top four club?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Top four?
Speaker 5 (14:02):
All right, there are your rankings, mate.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
All right, thank you, that was fantastic. Now is he
gone or not? Like I thought he was gone? Everyone
said he was gone. I was waiting for the announcement.
I actually thought it happened. I'd seen it that much
and heard it. But it hasn't. What's going on.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
I spoke to desk Friday. He says he's not gone.
I don't think that he's been brought into the picture
of the position they're in. I think they're waiting till
it's spath and medal impossible for him to make the
top eight. I think that's now really is well, No,
if he won every.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Game, sixteen points left in the competition, you know the
Titans better than that yesterday, and we'll turn tell us
something I haven't heard it, So we don't want to
keep on second coaches. And as he was there and
everybody thought we'd be in a better position, and for
some reason.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
There's been some very heavy stuff written. And Peter Badell
and Travis Main did how his sheds and that a
kid there in the side read about his first grade
tobo and the telegraph on the website wasn't even told
didn't get his jumper, but all that sort of thing, and.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
That what's coming out of there at the moment.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
You're right, yeah, but look, it's more.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Alarming the way they're playing. I mean, I loved as
as a blake, right, but I think his ways are outdated.
I think it's with due respect to doubt dares, I
think he's become a bit of a dinosaur.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
If you're going to coach on the.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Gold Coast, a place that needs more promotion, it's there
under section the AFL. What does he do to promote
the game up there? Cuts his press conferences off after
three minutes, sits after does his press conference after games,
gets up and walks out.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I mean, you've got to promote the game. Doesn't promote
the game.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
On the Gold Coast.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
This is the thing that I find annoying. It's one
thing to lose footy games.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Look, that happens, right, and that's what coaches get judged by.
But on the Gold Coast it's different. Gravy Man, you're
under assault from the AFL. You've got to promote the game,
because that's what the AFL do up there. They promote
the hell out of the game.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
At that joint.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Really, conferences get moved left right and so then it
goes anymore.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
There's a little bit of nonsense there. I tell you
what the nonsense is. The coach is not a pr guy,
Yes he is. He's not Wayne Bennett. Press conferences best
in the business man?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Are you serious?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
You don't think he gets one or two word answers
every now and then?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
If the media better than anyone? Buzz?
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Can he reallyship people privately and loads you up and
all that sort of thing. I'm saying somebody's press conferences
are pretty.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Order of them.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Problem is not one of them. Problem is not his
pr that's like us blowing up about Origin players not
speaking to us. That's wrongs. His problem is he's not
winning fully games. We're on the bottom of the lane.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
That's an issue.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
It's nothing to do.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
But also think if you're upset the.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Local journals because he won't do four minute press comms,
he's doing three.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Maybe he moves and all the time buzz players are
never up for media because there is pulling him out
of media media.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I'm not caring foreign on the little world done well.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
That's because the Greg Kirwan's retorian.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Yeah, look, I think DESI could do that at a big,
powerful club like Brisbane when you're on the gold case
and there's a lot of transit people and a lot
of holiday goals that might want to come to the game.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
The more they see a guy they're promoting. I think
it does help.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
When I had to go Wayne minute, because there'd be
you know, the Swan's coach was Kevin Sheady. They're kicking
balls over planes and all that early in the morning
and Wayne would brush them. And I think there is
a responsibility of the coaches to sell the game.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I should have got I should have called the Donald.
That was respect what I think some of his way comment.
I'm attracting that comment. Desk, I apologize. You shouldn't called
your dinos. Some of de ways our old school.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
And they don't. They did work on the gold.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Case, the reverse button.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
It was a She's been a great coach.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I was Wayne Gravy Man.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
We'll get to that lass.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Never heard anyone back flip in sixties when you're.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
About to soon.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Has been great for the game. I just think it's done.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
My bra.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
You start running six. No one would worry if his
press conference was a three minute STrenD. But they're not.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
They run, stay, they come and last, just to keep
the information on a mission to avoid their third straight
last Bulldogs cash camera. Serudo swung the axe on his
prize signing and it worked.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Bulldogs now on the attack.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
Marty to kick out a tackle, Spail, Oh he is Superman.
Drink water on the pertue, tin and cowboys, McLean labor,
j FT stacks, check and let slide. Urdon light signed
kicked and getting through Preston.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That was up. That was too easy.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
Extra points Hayward Burton.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
They're not at the moment.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
Tracy on to Joanna, he's got rid of Shatra, rid
of cover, becomes a dread scorer in the NRL.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I think it's in the stars.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
Dean a dummy and riders dren Curer that's in the
stars as well.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Or did he loads out lost it?
Speaker 8 (19:11):
He's like at all over the line Cowboys re Ben
against Worldall and kick for the lead and he loses possession.
Love Derby throws a watermelon passpect to Labor, says to
your best pay off loads drink water. Diner Winer kicked
in a corner. Did Ny the cab up Nights takes
(19:34):
a dad Canterbury within the contests and a courageous weed
with the Bulldogs on their own.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
That was the turning point thanks to Ashley and Martin
Medical hair Centers, Buzz to drop.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Or not to drop? You're talking Galvin story you wrote
this morning?
Speaker 5 (19:56):
I wrote this morning the Tobby Sexton and Red Marni
had got them into the top four and should stay
in the football side, and that Galvin, I don't like
him sitting in a coaching box, should probably keep his
match conditioning up and go and play news last Cup
a few weeks That was my opinion. I have since
learnt this will not be the case. They couldn't give
(20:19):
us stuff what I've written, obviously, because I am now
told that there were huge concerns about the Bulldog's attack,
not just in recent weeks, but since the beginning of
the season. I've got the stats here. Storm have scored
five hundred and seventeen points, Raiders have scored four sixty
two points, The Bulldogs have scored three hundred and sixty
(20:41):
six points. Manly Roosters, Sharks and Dolphins have all scored
more points than there's a worry about their attack. I'm
hearing that they're at tempted now to put Galvin in,
start him at half back, stop the debate, stop the speculation,
get some coesion and Paul Old Toby Sex. I have
not changed my opinion.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
That sounds a good idea. I swear I said it
a week ago.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Well you know what you have, you have a million
ideas and you finally got one ride. Well done.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Come. I think it's a.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
It was right from the dogs, just you know, just
to cut the head off on the weekend and stop
trying to keep everybody happy. And if they go with Galvin,
go with Galvin. But picking at seven or picking at
six and just run with it, don't try to keep
the whole squad happy.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Wat watching the game on the.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Weekend, I thought, this team, the way they're attacking camp,
win the camp.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It was really an eye opener to me.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I was hoping they would improve put going back to
the team that.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
They did have, but they didn't.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Their defense has been amazing and won them this game.
Now what really concerned me was playing the team that's
got the worst defense in the competition and they only
scored the points that they did. So I went and
had to look at the numbers, and this was Sexton's
numbers compared to the others top four teams at the
moment in attack. If you look at Hughes fifteen games,
(22:13):
six tries, nine and try assists forty seven, tackle bus
eight line breaks Metcalf, he's played less games than Sexton.
Eight tries, eleven, tryasis, eight line breaks, thirty three tackle
bus Foguti even there sixteen games, two tries eight and
you can see the numbers compared to Sexton down.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
The bottom right.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
So this is in no line breaks, so he hasn't
made one line break all a year Sexton, So this
is what I'm thinking. You know what, I can see
what sorialdo c is but he's got to make the call.
He's got to make the call if he wants to
win a premiership. We'll have a chance of winning a premiership.
And he doesn't think Sexton can do it in that
(22:52):
key position and execute the way that they need it,
then put Galvin at seven and just do it now,
just do.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
It now here as soon as he signed is a
big picture, long term signing that he was going to
deliver the premierships that Gus told us about that it
would be in a year or two, maybe even three years.
That's why they signed him long term. Cameron is obviously
of the opinion there were a chance of winning the
comp this year, but not with the attacking processes they
(23:21):
have in place right now. And that's why Sexton will
be I believe, removed from the side in the next week.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It goes back to what we said in the preseason,
early in the season break about the spine and I
doubt whether they ad a spine that could win a premiership,
but I think Galvin gives him that because he adds
another dimension to them, which you respect to tab sext
and He's done a really serviceable job, but he can't
do a lock and Galvin he's a good football to
prove himself.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I'm not going to take back that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I don't think it's a distraction still what's going on.
I do, But I also do think.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Do you think breaks an instruction while it's up in
the air.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, you're just going to make up in the air.
That's why I'm saying I need to make it cool.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
You know, there's been too much stuff and around and
they've probably been unsure of it. They've wanted to show
respect to Sext and give him an opportunity. He's had
his opportunity and he hasn't been poor well either. You know,
they still weren't winning games. You know, they've only got
just beaten by Penris. So it's a tough one to make,
very hard coooll. And as long as the players, this
is a big thing for me that I've been strong on.
As long as the playing group and the senior players
(24:25):
are on the same page as the coach and agree
and don't feel aggrieved by the players like Sexton and
many in their situation. If they're comfortable and they want
Galvin and that seven Jersey and they think they're more
chances of win the comp with Galvin chuck him in.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
And you know what, Cameron Surround on a very short
period of time has proved himself to be an emerging
super coach, you know, a guy who's going to win premierships.
And as much as I wanted sex and to stay
that sex and stay there on the score of loyalty,
I can understand. I can understand, and this decision.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
You're on board now, but I like it.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
No, no, but the dogs probably thought that Sextem was
going to this is gainus.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Like I mean, and then that made the decision easier
if sext And failed.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
And he didn't fail. He just kept on doing his
job and playing well.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I think the thing really too is sometimes you can
look too far ahead. They've got a window of opportunity. Now,
you don't know what's going to happen next year. You
don't know what's going to happen the year after. You
don't know what injury are going to get. You talk
about Seaous, you talk about other teams that've got injuries.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And let's wipe them out.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Well, they don't have injuries, They've just got key positions.
To take care and they've got a chance to win
a camp this year. So sometimes you can look too
far ahead and miss those those windows of opportunity.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
This is one for them. Where do you get that from? Okay?
Speaker 5 (25:43):
The Bulldogs are averaging twenty two point eight points per game,
Melbourne Storm ra averaging thirty two point three. That's why this decision.
I find it very hard on Sexton, but I can understand.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So before we move on, you can see that Rudy
was right and that he got it right.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Will concede that was so long over due.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
To again.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Last Bennett criticism as laughable after buzz questions the age
of the great supercoach.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Had a big day. I have look.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I wrote a piece this morning that souths are running
second last and last year, so I was cup second
lasting flag and I've had a few people reach out
to me, not me saying this that is Wayne Bennett
still up with the modern game. And it was, you know,
it was. It was a nasty thing to print, but
you know people are asking me these things. I actually
(26:43):
would never disrespect Wayne. I was on an Immortal's judging
power last year and I actually pushed for him to
become an immortal, not that player that nine hundred for
coaching games, plus the fact that he played for Australia,
plus the fact he's won seven Hemanship.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
So it was not so I.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Couldn't get the support in the room. I just wanted
to prove I'd never disrespect him. That's how highly I
think of it. But the bottom line is they're going
like absolute bustards this year. They've had a shocking run
with injuries, which I credit them, and Wayne has a
massive job on his hand to drag them out of this.
This is what I'm surprised that he even put in
(27:22):
for the Kangaroo's job. I think in September October that
club needs a massive review to work out where they're heading.
You look at clubs like Paramatta and with Ralph's there,
they've struggled too, but you can see future there. You
look at other clubs that lower on the ladder, there's
a couple of them. They've got kids coming through. I
can't see those kids at this house reading. I don't
(27:44):
know where they're next.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
Do you think do you think Wayne put his hand
up for the Australian job to get a bit of
aura back, Because when you're the Australian coach.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
You get a bit more power.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
And well it's a press seed.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I think Wayne likes doing that job. I think he
likes the idea of doing the idea of doing asses
to as well. Obviously, well when you do, if you
do the job now, but I don't think you should
have to.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
But that's another debate, Gordy.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I mean I think, yeah, I think I think you're
harsh on Wayne Buzz because I think their injury record
this year, and I think the issue hasn't just been.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Their injury record.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
It's the injury record on top of the recruitment in
the last couple of years when Wayne wasn't necessarily there,
they haven't recruited well the last couple of YEARSS injuries
or recruitment.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
You can't separate.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
You can't separate because I think one's injuries last year,
which is unlucky.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
If you have and if you have injuries, and if
you make a decision, if you've recruited poorly, then you
get injuries. It compounds the poor recruitment. I think they
work together. But if you recruit smart that you can
cover for injuries sometimes, but if you recruit poorly, which
is what they've Done's in charge of recruitment, Mark Ellison.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
I suppose last week when I said it was a
recruitment blunder to learn down Reynolds go, you said it
was rubbish.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
No, I said that you can't go back four years
and blame that.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Well, because I said you can't.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Plenty of chances to get it right from them and
they haven't got it right.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Well, so who are you going to blame? LUI start on, Well,
I think we.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Grade.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I don't know that we've ever got to the bottom.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Of Wayne surely would have rubber stamped. He wouldn't come
to a new club and spend elite money on a
that's one they've.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Got obviously got wrong.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Great mystery. It's great, isn't it a great mystery?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
It's one that got wrong obviously because that doesn't worked,
you know, having you know, this is South Sydney, this
isn't the Gold Coast time.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
The position there is just unacceptable across all grades. And
Blake Solely and Wayne need to sit down as soon
as round twenty seven is done and they need to
find a way out of this hole.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Don't don't don't agree us even with hit players. They've
got to be a job on their hands, the bunnies. Now,
let's take a.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Look at our sports Bet Player of the Round nominees
around at nineteen and here they are and Nicholas High.
What a game it was from him, clutch for the
Kronella Sharks. Drame Hughes again four try assists standing out
for the Melbourne Storm, Chanelle Harris, Tavita for the Warriors
with two tries.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Buzz Nico is back.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
As I said, he's from one point one million dollars
and he played like a one point one million dollar
play the other night. It was so great, great to
see his confidence. He's two tries. The Dolphins came home hard.
But Nick him. I haven't even curtain him around the
coffee shop.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
He might have good to see him those moments, clutch moments.
I mean, he's actually looking at the stats today, of
all the harms, when I was looking at Sexton's, I
saw Nikos and he's had the most line break assists
I think. So he creates a lot of opportunities and
he's very dangerous. It's just the big moments that that
he has struggled with. Hopefully this is, you know, the
monkey off the back and.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
There's such a different side break when he plays or
we saw that didn't we're there are they're the side,
but he plays well there the side. Do you think
they can challenge potentially for a premiership now? Have done
too much damage already, but it's great to seem smiling
and happy.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Very good to see you stick around. Journo's This Sunday
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