Catch up on all the Rugby League news from NRL 360, Monday September 15th, with hosts Braith Anasta and Gorden Tallis.
The NRL 360 panel are joined by Buzz Rothfield and Brent Read to discuss all the fallout from the Broncos thrilling win against the Raiders. The boys also dive into the Bulldogs and Broncos spine problems ahead of the final weeks of the 2025 season.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
After an epic weekend, just six teams remained in the
race for the premiership, but it was the final game
on Sunday that will be remembered forever. Three Sinbins four
missed the field goals and the Raiders robbed of a
winning moment not once but twice. After ninety four minutes,
a veteran Bronco broke the deadline.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
This is the final.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Everyone has been waiting all weekend for the camera. Raiders
number one against these suddenly.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Hot Brisbane Broncos.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
We're off and running Raiders and Broncos wilship first receiver,
the double pup and going through and going over this
caton stamps last Fogny rolls it in part said the
news over. Ki awakes to get the space, kiawakes, go
for it. The fine Mone is over now, Shibasaki staying.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Alive, had his pass put down.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah here we go. Look at this and now, yes
this is a little meat here than usual. Ooh Walsh
bac and then I'll just leading with their head careful
racely you're.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Run in there and got into his face right, which
makes him for You're gonna got it the bit.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Ten minutes, well, they've seen the president.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
Now he led a head.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I don't know how they got the penalty to be here.
Speaker 7 (01:18):
They've got a one hundred percent wrong, but we shouldn't
make it about that one.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You're in a bit of rehearsal and look at Walsh
and he's getting caught up to you in the locals.
Now Kyle Waitz is a lie who's going to run
him down. Kyle law was in the clean hang on Barna,
Danny come Wax trust Harrigan trying to change them and
meets him here as he lines out Smithy Well at
that shoulder on head. This will be ten Brisbane or
(01:44):
unraveling Brisbane. On the rights, here's fogginging on straight, straight,
talk out straight Rusc and Fody. Now he has that
in him at times, but right now it's not mattering.
The margin is sixteen and there's twenty two and a
half to go. Lass on the run, will slice of
sve this this race, Wills in his pat They're the
(02:07):
kick from inside the forty. No way, no worry Walsh,
Walter's shut off.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
They've done it again.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Ship us out using well shut an angle touched by
Cara Blive Bak Cirah Runnings winning Raiders. Hold on, hang on,
they are reviewing the charge down on the field goal.
That's gonna be a penalty goal attempt. Brisbane were down
by sixteen with Bourdy in the play twenty.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Eight all Ferguny goes to the air.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
See Husky ohla Fergany charged. There's over.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
They've done it again.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
The Rainers mak time and they're gonna be to night again.
Speaker 8 (02:49):
The bullgaates Ford into the brocades the first knock on
with the camera twice now they have celebrated victory and
twice headed to Night to win the game.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Ben Honey's hand on one.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Field god his career.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
He kicks it, It's long, it looks like a field goal.
But comeback in the Capitol He's took plays unbelievable. Brisbane
twenty nine, Caverra twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Welcome to L three sixty Ruby League from every angle,
brought to you by Regain joining me again a great
good and tallis Let's been to Jona's in Buzz Rothfield
and Brett Reid. Well, if you didn't believe in miracles
before yesterday, you do today. One of the best finals
games in NRL history, if not the best scoredy.
Speaker 8 (03:34):
What a game this was down in Canberra. Absolutely, I
think the game is in wait. I think it was
thirty years is probably they played their last.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Finals game against each other.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
You go, their beautiful day, perfect conditions for rugby league
and they delivered.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
What a performance from both clubs. Guys.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
I've been going to rugby league probably since the seventies
a kid, and I've seen origins, I've seen Grand Primes,
I've seen test matches. Walked down to Canberra Stadium last night,
not sure I've seen anything is stirring, dramatic epic as
that ninety four minutes, Yes, afternoon it was off the
charts entertainment drama, high drama.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
You sunded it up, buzz. I mean I was on
the sideline for it and it was just hectic. It
was a manic you know, you couldn't sit still. And
Ricky was right beside me, and he was you know,
he reminded me, reminded me of the day of a
young breath and asked to kick the field goal.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Yes, to win a game that was a final, wasn't it?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Break it was?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah? Or even even watching it, you know, of course
I played in that game. But It did remind me
of that, just so many turning points in dramatic moments.
And you know, I was at a maids place and
we're twenty minutes ago, and then he went home. You know,
I wait a couple of minutes, and then it was like, oh,
I'm glad I didn't right, but let's get straight to it.
(04:53):
Madge has he proven the doubt.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Is wrong, but maybe the sunny build.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Richie's doing column on this. He asked me today, would
I apologize to Madge? And my answer is no, I
won't because.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I write no.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Why would I write the story on reliable intelligence at
the start of the year, having Madge having been sacked
by the West Tigers and Souse that the Broncos players
were struggling to adjust to his demands. There the story
was one hundred percent accurate. Later in the year, he
took him on a harbor cruise. Two days later they
came out and they got flogged by Souse, the house
(05:29):
sending down the bottom of the ladder. I looked into
it and they had the Fort Dennison cultural experience. I
actually think, well, it's true.
Speaker 9 (05:42):
Did they get better on that cruise?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Or something?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I didn't look at the menu.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
But I do not apologize for the fact that they
were struggling at that time. And I'm of the opinion
that Madge might have met the players in the a
little bit and just knocked it back slightly. And that's
my beauty and that's.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
That's my time, is that once they understand what he's
trying to do and why he's doing it, they'll reap
the benefits. And they have and I think match has
proven Sorry Buzz, but I think he's proven you wrong.
You were a doubted too at the start of the year,
and you can understand why because they weren't performing where
(06:27):
we thought they would. Right, let's be honest.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
As long as you're as long as you're happy before
we go off here after the Grand Final, if we
can analyze some of the statements you've made.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You can get a go for it started by now.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I don't have one exactly, I'm not prepared.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I've got a few for you.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
If you both all that hard work they put in,
all those army camps, all the vomit buckets, that's say
you can win games the ninety fourth minute in the finals,
and that's what they did on the weekend so we
can all question Madge's methods. We've all questioned them over
the years. I've had my doubts when he was at
the West time. But at the moment he's having the
last laugh because at one game they got a Grand Final.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
They got it, they got to win.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
And then in that game I've watched enough, the Raiders
had it won. At twenty eight they did well, they
had it one and they stopped playing.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
And a blacklock named Resfors and then.
Speaker 8 (07:15):
Reese Walsh is a freak when so where do they
get about army camps?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Reese don't need them, he just needs the ball in
his head.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Where did they get it wrong?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Men?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Camera, you said they stopped playing. You were there, he
watched it first here. What do you mean by that?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Well, it just felt like they stopped attacking.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
So when they scored that try, the whole fans went
up and then we were in the ground and they
celebrated like they wont and it was like that they
got strange right, yeah, and it and it felt like
that Brisbane were going away like they had a couple
of sets. No forwards had touched the ball. Ca Toni
Stag's got them out. But I thought the Raiders started
playing not to lose the game. They just thought, let's
(07:53):
get through our sets, get to a kick a bit.
What Brisbane did in the twenty fifteen Grand Final, how
they just sort of shut up shop, let's just defend ourselves.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
There's a couple of players.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And this happened in It's like that Grand Final two
years ago when.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
The twenty three years and Penrith came from nowhere. Technically
was there for all to see yesterday, and you're going
to be journal or a former player. Canberra have an
issue on the right side their defense. Matt Timmerca Timaka
struggled there yesterday, not just with his due but breeding
(08:26):
it and the Broncos just keept.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Me bash back. But buzz.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
You also need great players to make stuff happen when
you're down, like that Nathan Cleary you mentioned two years ago.
Nathan Cleary stood up with twenty minutes to go and
won that Grand Final just about single handley. Reese Wall
stood up twenty tosolutely. He just about won this game
single handley as well.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Because he did.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
We did.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
To the fact, whether we should have been on the well,
we're going to get there right now.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Let's get to the huge debate over the Reese Walsh
and Hudson Young sin Bin. There was so much This
is the talk of the town. People are split over this.
Let's get into it. I'll let you get the first runs.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Yeah, well, I can tell our you was straight away
that pash Klein the referee, you got to pass Mark
out of this game.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And ash Klein you got to pass Mark.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Out of the game and will be in control of
one of the two finals this weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I don't know who.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I'm just telling you, just let on. I thought he
had enough game.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I believe you got a pass one.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Okay, tell you what, Accord, it was a tough game
ninety four minutes.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
That's what you've got to get. That's why you've got
to get the decisions. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
It's tougher for it. I just want to let's.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Go through the decisions.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
Then, okay, let's go through the first one.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
This one the head. But here from Reese Walsh, did
he get it wrong or what he wants to take it?
Speaker 8 (09:56):
So if you're going to get sin Bin now for
sell obraiding and getting them players faces, there won't be
a player every week. I watched that Cranella winger the
young symbian's wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You're saying, yes, so for you to.
Speaker 8 (10:09):
Come and get in someone's face, how many times do
we watch it? We don't like it? Right, but he's
allowed to do that. Hudson Young did nothing wrong. That
is not a noble offense, and Reswol should have got something.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
I think the r Old's viewers Gordy that Hudson Young
initiated contact. He didn't just get his face, He initiated
contact with him.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
I don't think it's I don't think he should have.
You believe what they told you.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
Yeah, I believe that's why they they back.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I don't have the decision.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
No, I don't think. I'm just knowing.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
What I would say in defense of the n L
is that at times throughout the season, in past seasons,
the player who runs in and incites the mela is
often the one if it turns in the third man.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
But then that's just those two, that's not third man.
If he went off, I'd go I agree with that,
but Hudson Young, that doesn't deserve.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
The concession I got out of the NRL today was
from that incident.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Camera was penalized.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
They have now admitted that camera should have got the penalty, absolutely,
and they people describe it like this, if you've got
a dickhead act which is Hudson Young right, you're behaving
like you did, and you've got a head butt, which
is blatant foul play.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
The foul play far outweighs.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
The dickhead and it was a cus they got the
penalty wrong spot on.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
We'll go a little deeper into those as well. But
Reese Walsh not being sighted, what's on that?
Speaker 8 (11:45):
I agree? I don't think there was too much in it.
I just would like to know if that was now
the solemn charge Gray one head butt, if that was
now head budding Reese, what would happen. That's just just
as long as we're consistent. I don't think there's two
much in it, Like, I really don't. I don't think
it's worth a week on the sideline. Do you think
it's worth a week?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And I think you're about to talk to it recording.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
Yeah, Yeah, it's consistent.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
The NRL has given us detail which is very much
consistent the last five players who had butted apparents on
the field, similar manner, not overly serious but still ahead.
But I've got off with a grade one, didn't miss
any footy. Well, now, Victor Radley example, he got three weeks.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
His was all about loading and that's the difference.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
So I am certainly not going to be bagging them
about lack of consistently because a.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Lot of people are messaging me today from clubs and
talking about Victor and it's had nothing to do a
record Victor loading.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
That's why when when you look.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
At those replays, you can see it's very similar to them,
to the Reese Walls things.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
So you want it.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Everyone's happy that Ree Walsh is playing next week. We
got that out of the way, Yes, yes, okay, I
want to get back to that penalty. So they got
it wrong, the penalty irrelevantly that they did. They should
have been a penalty to.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
To the raid as a result of the headbut they've
confirmed that to me, and this is one of the reasons. Look,
Klein didn't get it better than the pass. They told
me that was client's decision. The bunker ruled how to
look at it, but it was Klein's decision to penalize
Canberra for an in your face act of stupidity.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And you know.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Football players like Hudson Young and you're never going to
stop it, always going to applaud a mistake like that
and get in opponent's face.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Are you happy with it?
Speaker 7 (13:45):
That call, the submitting or the penalty was wrong. Penally
went to the wrong team, There's no doubt about that.
But I mean camera should have got the penalty in
that situation because Ree committed the gravey.
Speaker 9 (13:56):
So actually, where's all the drama?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Then you you got? I was just saying ash Clin
didn't have a good day. Where do you get it wrong?
Speaker 8 (14:04):
Well, a couple of times sides like to watch it
live Brisbane off side by like a meet like meters.
At some stage, I thought when Starling went through on
play two of the game and he pulled him up,
they lost all the momentum for party with.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
The players a tough carry.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
The second play the ball of the game, Starling goes
through a gap right and then they lose all momentum.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
I thought he got that one right there.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
Okay, then were Billy twenty minutes about fifteen minutes later
and there was no penalty.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
So he just wanted to be consistent, That's.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
What I'm saying. So it's not about the Raiders getting penalized.
It's about he didn't. So then they're consistency and the referee.
If we're talking about the referee consistency in his performance
through the game. And I'm not a referee, but I
know that he wouldn't have got a pass.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I think Camera had every opportunity with that game. Absolutely
they should have won, and.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
They wouldn't be blaming the the interest he wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Get spoke to Ricky Stewart this morning and you know,
he he was down. He he was if you can't, yeah,
he was calm made.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
He was really really shitty.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
He wasn't happy, and he's made his feelings known to
Andrew Abdo and Peter Balandi. He's made his feelings known
to them. But what I got out of the conversation
is he's going to walk into that presentation night tonight.
He's going to be upbeat and he's going to pick
those young players off the canvas the disappointment yesterday, and
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they're going to rock up afternoon and that game against Coronala.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Will be a colossal game.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
It's a big job.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Will not give up.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
It's a big job for Ricky because it's unprecedented. They
he kissed his players on the bench and celebrated like
they won.
Speaker 9 (15:48):
They pretty much went one two or three times.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I don't know what they hold.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
Yeah, twice they celebrate a buzzs then beside me, I'm
thinking they've won this sitting there going wow.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
Well, the challenge is mental, right, It's not so much
physics for it's a mental challenge to get those blogs
up again after that they've I imagine that the dressing
dressingmen would have been so deflated.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
After that game.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
If they can get that right ready, Yeah, I think
they'll be fine because they are a great team and
they still even though they lost, you know, so that
they're a young team, but there are brilliant I can report.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
That was so emotional and so tense there on the
bus trip home last night, Gord, you need to have
a few.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Beers just to settle.
Speaker 9 (16:28):
Himself down, just a couple on a bus together.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah. Yeah, that it was like a nursing home. Bush
really was.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
The under control.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
How many bathroom stops did we have to make?
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Jimmy, that was Jimmy Gray.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
Honestly, it was like the nerd school just doing his homework.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, you talk about pressure, you talk about big moments,
and it was a question mark over Jamal Fogan heading
into this game, and through no fault of his own,
he just hadn't been put under pressure and big moments,
and there was there was a question mark. Will we
say that he fell short?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Well that's a question for you.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, well, yes, yes he did. And it was this
moment here the field the field goal so that kicks
kickable and you know, like it's hard to say. I
hate even saying it or even having to look at
this and go over it because it would be heartbreaking
for him. And he's had such an incredible year and
he's a great player. But again, nothing compares to when
(17:38):
you've got the kick, and it means so much to
not only you, but to your team, the fans you
threw to all prelim and that's when you find out
what you're made off, you know.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
And he still needs to prove that too against Peneth.
I think he missed the kick to he out at
what about.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
This about poverty?
Speaker 5 (17:59):
I think he's been and play actually share, But there
have been a couple of clutch moments that the really
good halves, the Cherry Evans is the clear eas and
those sort of guys they get them here.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Well, you've got you've got to make that field goal.
He's perfectly set up, set up for it's what fifteen
twenty meters out, you just got it twenty meters out.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
You've got to nail it.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Break. Is he in the right.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
You kicking right foot, right side of the post, you
got if you're right foot out, you want to be
at the right post, and then you throw so you're
around the left post, so it opens up and the
marker's got to chase from the from the art further, yeah, further.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
No one's saying he's not a great player. Break and
it's just I got that wrong.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
You get to the left post for a.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
Right halves get measured on the ability ship close close
the game out, and he had that opportunity on the weekend,
and this one gets me because he's in perfect position,
he's got time on his side. It's set up. You've
just got to make that.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, they didn't really set up for it that well,
but near to the Brisbane they had a chance to
set up for one as well.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
Earlier I think it was in Golden Point and they
didn't even go.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
What about the Welsh at tempt the cross forty from
forty two out to bounce off across bar.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
That was he didn't hit it probably either it went
too high if you know it goes over the back.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It was a crazy game. Now Billy Walter's unfortunately for him,
suffering a partial ACL ten Does that mean, like, do
we know much about the partial a cl? Is he
gone for the season.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
He's got to see a specialist on Wednesday, Break, and
it's look, it's highly unlikely a plaguga in this year,
but we won't know.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
For sure until he sees that specialist on Wednesday.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
So it's a devastating blay for Billy because again yesterday
Billy was outstanding at five eight.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
We're going to come on and debate about whether Renold
should be in or out now obviously now he comes
straight in right and it should have.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Come straight in anyway. Break, I can't even believe.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I cannot even believe we're having this. This has been debated.
Captain of the foot team.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, I know forty.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Contributes a bit and is a very very good player.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
Really only give you one thing if you have Ben
Hunt's career and Adam reynolds career and they retire, who's
had a better career.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Would just say Ben Ben would a great game, a
great game because Ben Hunt his own work.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
He got the job done.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
He did the job done.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Hit me with your right.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I haven't had a right about you for a while.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
The end, we don't know what's coming.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Well, I just wanted to short circuit and get in
and tell you what Ben Hunt's done.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
He has set ree Welsh a light.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Whereas there were Reeese was making a lot of mistakes
when Rena was there.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
He was played pretty good football alongside Adam Reynolds.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
He has played his best in his last five weeks. Yeah,
you boding.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Straight back and see you guys are saying that if
Walters is fit and was, Reynolds would have played his
last game for the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Really thinks Galvin should have went straight into the Bulldogs.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Yeah, so we're not talking about a rookie. We're talking
about a three hundred games that's played twenty State of Origins,
that's got.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
The team.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Listen, you don't change your winning formula.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
You do for black slug Adam Ronolds.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I believe you do anyway, Yeah, what do you think
he just.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
If Walters was fit.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
There is no way, in my view, you can change
the Broncos side to just set this competition up.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
For the last speak call from the boys that one
really firm that yeah, that's that's right. Bronco is to
play winner of Panthers and the Bulldogs. Do they have
what it takes to win the comp.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Time?
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Well, Broth, I said, you've got to be in the
top four to win it. I thought it was a
two horse race a couple of weeks ago. I think
they could win it. Brisbane definitely, but it's gonna be
tough in the know Pack Carragher next game and obviously
Billy with no Billy Walters now. So I still think
Melbourne and the favorites.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I still think Melbourne.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
Yeah, how do you okay, we'll get to that a
little bit later.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
How do you think they can win the Compliraders?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yeah, they hope. Yeah, anyone who's you know, to qualifier?
That's true, that's true. And well we're talking about the
Harps that Stacks what about him?
Speaker 4 (22:39):
What about believe I reckon he was the real savior.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
When it mattered.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
The other person who's going to appreciate this two weeks
off more than anyone playing half with that. He had
a bit of a hobble yesterday, so I think I
can win it.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, all right, let's have a look at a massive
week here. It was a massive week and this was
first one of finals week. Now the Storm beating the
Bulldogs twenty six points to eight, and what a game
that was. On Saturday the Panthers were too good for
the Warriors twenty four to eight, and then followed up
with the Sharks too good for the Roosters twenty points
to ten. Finishing with that epic encounter the Raiders twenty
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eight been getting beaten by the Broncos twenty nine. And
this is week two, Saturday, this Saturday, six pm Raiders
up against the Sharks, followed by on Sunday two thirty
pm afternoon game the Bulldogs taking on the Panthers. Now,
there is some.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Late breaking news.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
The prelim schedule has changed and here it is right here.
The Melbourne Storm now will play on the Friday, September
twenty six either the Raiders or Sharks, and the Broncos
now play on Sunday, September twenty eighth against the winner
of the Bulldogs and Panthers.
Speaker 9 (23:52):
What do we think it is.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
It's a bit of an advantage in the Storm a
couple of days extra rest. I think it's look, I mean,
Sunday afternoon has been going. Game buses the role in
the finals. Just those game went through the roof, so
I can sort of understand why they've done it. But
it does give the Storm a bit of an edge. Well,
whoever wins that game on Friday night a bit of
an edge going into the ground.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
So why don't they move Storm to Saturday Al Final?
But it's going to be finished for two hours. Yeah,
and they're playing in the.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Same Melbourne stops the city on AFL Grand Final didn't
stop our game.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I probably agree with you, Gordy.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I probably agree, And I think ready makes a fair
point that one team getsday night, one team gets nine
days to repair, the other get seven.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Why couldn't they play the broncos.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
You know you two agreement, you are, Yeah, it is
an advantage like day listen, but you'd play it after
five I mean, and and side to play like a replay,
you know, three days after. So it's a game that
you're playing no matter how many days you get.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
The cool thing is the NRL have fallen in love
was Sunday Afternoon Football.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
They love it in the final come and buzz.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
I won't even I.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Went to Peter Ble and just paked him last paid.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Peter ploys a.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Grand look yesterday's game.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Pete, would he move horse racing? Delight?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Are you're not going to move there?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
You don't like enough?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
And grandfather all let's talk.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Bulldogs are brave, but injuries in the spine shake up
leaves them fighting for survival. The Monday buzz took a
fair swipe today.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Buzzy at the Dogies, Well, I think they're blundered. I do.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
I think their decision to drop Red Marney for bally
Haywood his mistake. Paul Bailey missed the tackles the other
day and they've only got a thirty three percent win
record with him there. With read Marney there they got
a seventy five percent records. Clear cut, they're a better
side with read Money.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
It's clear.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
It's not funny having said that Heywood's a terrific player
half five eight lock ll backup hooker now in the halves.
I have similar stats that prove beyond doubt that they
are a better side with Toby sext and at half back.
And I can see the look on your face over there.
(26:21):
I can see you're going to challenge this. I back
it up with cold hard.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Facts, the fact that the factor is earlier this year.
You were highly critical of read Money and said he
would cost them a finals.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Absolutely, I was. I was critical. Imagine I'm going to
stick my hand up and say that what I'm not saying,
I'm wrong, I'm saying Cameron. So I had a chat
to read Marnie and said, mate, you're giving away to
mental too many penalties. Pull your head and he did that.
Speaker 9 (26:50):
Are you worried about his discipline?
Speaker 7 (26:52):
I wasn't raised issues about it, No, not really, but
I look, I think he'd be in the hook he'll
I think I'm happy with bally Hayward and Hooker.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
But but you're happy with miss Towns.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
But if reed Money's in the seven.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
You picks in the seventeen this week, then you'll be
able to come on and give bally Hayward a rest,
give him a break. It's not great, but how many
times has bally Hayward done that this year?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You can't the other importance?
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Can I say one of.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
The things was one of the criticists of red money
that you and others have made is over his defense.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
But if you drop someone for the defense and someone
comes in, miss.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Did he get dropped for his defense? He did?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
What did he?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Why did you get I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Know really the other important Canterbury are in all sorts.
They have lost.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
They have won four of their last nine games, and
he's tried every trick to change that side. Now when
I say they've won four, it's really three because they
beat Penrith Reserve Grade.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
So let's make they were all on the weekend through
pure courage, show how the dogs, the sidarity there and
the culture that they've got that they are they're a team, right,
they're a club. But still the finesse wasn't there. They
had injuries and all that. We know that right, and
their backs were against the wall. But still.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Two of those losses of Melbourne, they could have easily
won both.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Those games, but they didn't.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
They didn't, but they could have won them there in
both those games against against Melbourne two three weeks ago,
but they held up the line three times for memory,
so they could have easily won that game.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Through Canterbury right, all this off, Gus God will tell
cam and its media destabilization that there after year that
they won a un said all the players that I
said when Galvin came across Brace said just well that
it has enormous, enormous potential to disrupt this football has
(28:57):
been proven.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
Right and as I said numerous times, they already on
the slide at that point we were there's two of
the four games before he got there.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
They do you think Galvin's been a success?
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Well say that.
Speaker 9 (29:13):
Because I haven't years the game point here, Really, that's
the point.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
It didn't look like scoring on the weekend until sex
and got on the field, I scored.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Maybe it's maybe I'll tell you what. Maybe it shows
at Galvin's sixth or seven chose three months maybe.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
A show that they in dropping Toby sext and you're saying,
now Galvin's a six.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Yes I am, but you know what they were going
to win. They weren't going to win the camp with
with Sex and.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Half know now, well I thought it.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
I think that you thought at one point this year,
because you've seen on the.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Season that was after.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Surround, he is going to be a sensational coach. You
can't get away from the fact mistakes have been made.
The interesting thing is on that column I wrote this morning,
you look at the reader's comments from Canterbury. They're ninety
five percent in agreeance with what we're basically saying here
tonight about sext and read last week I said.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
The Galvan signing is a lot. It's a long term
They've taken a long term view with it. There's been
some short term paper in the long term.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
If it's a long term view, you don't rush it.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
When it's a long term view.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Why to stabilize issue? Because I think they thought the
better chance to win in this year. I want to
move on from this because we've gone over so much.
What do I do this week?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Then?
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Well I play sex and a half back and Galvin
and six and Burton and Senners that.
Speaker 9 (30:47):
It was the right to see you know you're saying
you're going to put the sex?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
What what else do they do? How else do you exactly?
Because because I was in, would you left the halves
the same?
Speaker 6 (31:01):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Well, okay, all right, what would you guys have done?
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Sexting comes back in the morning. Give me a real chance,
give them a real chance in front of it.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Be a really hard, hard thing to do. If Crichton
was fit, I would play Sexton and Burton in the halfs.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, I'm the same. I'd have Sex and Gaalvint and
I'd probably move Burton to the centers with Yeah, I'm
doing I Just the bottom line is here is they
just need a half back playing half back like that
is they have over analyzed, over complicated, over thought this
(31:38):
whole process.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
I've got a young half back coming through breath and
Mitchell Woods will play there for a lot for a
long time ago and.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
He's not readyet three time, and neither is the other kid.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
There was a point this season they realized that we're
going to win the comp with Toby Sex and half.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
So they're coming, they're winning the camp and they decide
at that point they're not going to win the camp.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Clearly they did.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Well.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
I didn't think they were going to win the comp.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
I sat up in the start of you don't think
they've heard in dropping sext? No, I don't really.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Very drinking put it to bed, all right. So some
very sad news today with the death of legendary player
agent Wayne Beavers, who we've all known been associated with
what he was a legend I love absolute champion boke
what about right?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
What eighty three years about?
Speaker 5 (32:39):
It's one of the greatest characters I've ever met in
rugby league.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Whenever I rang him.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
There was a scandal with Jared Haynes, there was a
scandal with another play. Whatever it does, it's a storm
and a tea cup. Nothing's happened, it's all. And he
was so protective of his footballers. He really really was
almost to a fault some of the things he did
for them, you know. And you look at the media
career that people like Bo Ryan a Ford and I
(33:05):
remember I was edited a sports enter of the Telegraph
one day and Wayne's Freddie just retired. So when he
came in, we had a beer and he said, you
got to put Freddie on as a columnist, he said,
and this was long before anyone thought about Freddie the
TV star which is now.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And Wayne was behind all that, he really was.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
We heard how much he meant to bow Ryan to
the radio on Triple and he broke down in tears
he spoke of him. I had to leave the studio,
so I used a game changer sort of a head
of his time, Wayne Beavers.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
So he had a few run into in the media
because he was able to protect his players.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
A very Saturday for Rugby League. As we headed the break,
we would like to pass on our condolences to the
Beavers family and all of Wayne's friends from everyone here
at Foxley
After an epic weekend, just six teams remained in the
race for the premiership, but it was the final game
on Sunday that will be remembered forever. Three Sinbins four
missed the field goals and the Raiders robbed of a
winning moment not once but twice. After ninety four minutes,
a veteran Bronco broke the deadline.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
This is the final.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Everyone has been waiting all weekend for the camera. Raiders
number one against these suddenly.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Hot Brisbane Broncos.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
We're off and running Raiders and Broncos wilship first receiver,
the double pup and going through and going over this
caton stamps last Fogny rolls it in part said the
news over. Ki awakes to get the space, kiawakes, go
for it. The fine Mone is over now, Shibasaki staying.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Alive, had his pass put down.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah here we go. Look at this and now, yes
this is a little meat here than usual. Ooh Walsh
bac and then I'll just leading with their head careful
racely you're.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Run in there and got into his face right, which
makes him for You're gonna got it the bit.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Ten minutes, well, they've seen the president.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
Now he led a head.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I don't know how they got the penalty to be here.
Speaker 7 (01:18):
They've got a one hundred percent wrong, but we shouldn't
make it about that one.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You're in a bit of rehearsal and look at Walsh
and he's getting caught up to you in the locals.
Now Kyle Waitz is a lie who's going to run
him down. Kyle law was in the clean hang on Barna,
Danny come Wax trust Harrigan trying to change them and
meets him here as he lines out Smithy Well at
that shoulder on head. This will be ten Brisbane or
(01:44):
unraveling Brisbane. On the rights, here's fogginging on straight, straight,
talk out straight Rusc and Fody. Now he has that
in him at times, but right now it's not mattering.
The margin is sixteen and there's twenty two and a
half to go. Lass on the run, will slice of
sve this this race, Wills in his pat They're the
(02:07):
kick from inside the forty. No way, no worry Walsh,
Walter's shut off.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
They've done it again.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Ship us out using well shut an angle touched by
Cara Blive Bak Cirah Runnings winning Raiders. Hold on, hang on,
they are reviewing the charge down on the field goal.
That's gonna be a penalty goal attempt. Brisbane were down
by sixteen with Bourdy in the play twenty.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Eight all Ferguny goes to the air.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
See Husky ohla Fergany charged. There's over.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
They've done it again.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
The Rainers mak time and they're gonna be to night again.
Speaker 8 (02:49):
The bullgaates Ford into the brocades the first knock on
with the camera twice now they have celebrated victory and
twice headed to Night to win the game.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Ben Honey's hand on one.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Field god his career.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
He kicks it, It's long, it looks like a field goal.
But comeback in the Capitol He's took plays unbelievable. Brisbane
twenty nine, Caverra twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Welcome to L three sixty Ruby League from every angle,
brought to you by Regain joining me again a great
good and tallis Let's been to Jona's in Buzz Rothfield
and Brett Reid. Well, if you didn't believe in miracles
before yesterday, you do today. One of the best finals
games in NRL history, if not the best scoredy.
Speaker 8 (03:34):
What a game this was down in Canberra. Absolutely, I
think the game is in wait. I think it was
thirty years is probably they played their last.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Finals game against each other.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
You go, their beautiful day, perfect conditions for rugby league
and they delivered.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
What a performance from both clubs. Guys.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
I've been going to rugby league probably since the seventies
a kid, and I've seen origins, I've seen Grand Primes,
I've seen test matches. Walked down to Canberra Stadium last night,
not sure I've seen anything is stirring, dramatic epic as
that ninety four minutes, Yes, afternoon it was off the
charts entertainment drama, high drama.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
You sunded it up, buzz. I mean I was on
the sideline for it and it was just hectic. It
was a manic you know, you couldn't sit still. And
Ricky was right beside me, and he was you know,
he reminded me, reminded me of the day of a
young breath and asked to kick the field goal.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Yes, to win a game that was a final, wasn't it?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Break it was?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah? Or even even watching it, you know, of course
I played in that game. But It did remind me
of that, just so many turning points in dramatic moments.
And you know, I was at a maids place and
we're twenty minutes ago, and then he went home. You know,
I wait a couple of minutes, and then it was like, oh,
I'm glad I didn't right, but let's get straight to it.
(04:53):
Madge has he proven the doubt.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Is wrong, but maybe the sunny build.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Richie's doing column on this. He asked me today, would
I apologize to Madge? And my answer is no, I
won't because.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I write no.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Why would I write the story on reliable intelligence at
the start of the year, having Madge having been sacked
by the West Tigers and Souse that the Broncos players
were struggling to adjust to his demands. There the story
was one hundred percent accurate. Later in the year, he
took him on a harbor cruise. Two days later they
came out and they got flogged by Souse, the house
(05:29):
sending down the bottom of the ladder. I looked into
it and they had the Fort Dennison cultural experience. I
actually think, well, it's true.
Speaker 9 (05:42):
Did they get better on that cruise?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Or something?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I didn't look at the menu.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
But I do not apologize for the fact that they
were struggling at that time. And I'm of the opinion
that Madge might have met the players in the a
little bit and just knocked it back slightly. And that's
my beauty and that's.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
That's my time, is that once they understand what he's
trying to do and why he's doing it, they'll reap
the benefits. And they have and I think match has
proven Sorry Buzz, but I think he's proven you wrong.
You were a doubted too at the start of the year,
and you can understand why because they weren't performing where
(06:27):
we thought they would. Right, let's be honest.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
As long as you're as long as you're happy before
we go off here after the Grand Final, if we
can analyze some of the statements you've made.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You can get a go for it started by now.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I don't have one exactly, I'm not prepared.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I've got a few for you.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
If you both all that hard work they put in,
all those army camps, all the vomit buckets, that's say
you can win games the ninety fourth minute in the finals,
and that's what they did on the weekend so we
can all question Madge's methods. We've all questioned them over
the years. I've had my doubts when he was at
the West time. But at the moment he's having the
last laugh because at one game they got a Grand Final.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
They got it, they got to win.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
And then in that game I've watched enough, the Raiders
had it won. At twenty eight they did well, they
had it one and they stopped playing.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
And a blacklock named Resfors and then.
Speaker 8 (07:15):
Reese Walsh is a freak when so where do they
get about army camps?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Reese don't need them, he just needs the ball in
his head.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Where did they get it wrong?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Men?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Camera, you said they stopped playing. You were there, he
watched it first here. What do you mean by that?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Well, it just felt like they stopped attacking.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
So when they scored that try, the whole fans went
up and then we were in the ground and they
celebrated like they wont and it was like that they
got strange right, yeah, and it and it felt like
that Brisbane were going away like they had a couple
of sets. No forwards had touched the ball. Ca Toni
Stag's got them out. But I thought the Raiders started
playing not to lose the game. They just thought, let's
(07:53):
get through our sets, get to a kick a bit.
What Brisbane did in the twenty fifteen Grand Final, how
they just sort of shut up shop, let's just defend ourselves.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
There's a couple of players.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And this happened in It's like that Grand Final two
years ago when.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
The twenty three years and Penrith came from nowhere. Technically
was there for all to see yesterday, and you're going
to be journal or a former player. Canberra have an
issue on the right side their defense. Matt Timmerca Timaka
struggled there yesterday, not just with his due but breeding
(08:26):
it and the Broncos just keept.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Me bash back. But buzz.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
You also need great players to make stuff happen when
you're down, like that Nathan Cleary you mentioned two years ago.
Nathan Cleary stood up with twenty minutes to go and
won that Grand Final just about single handley. Reese Wall
stood up twenty tosolutely. He just about won this game
single handley as well.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Because he did.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
We did.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
To the fact, whether we should have been on the well,
we're going to get there right now.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Let's get to the huge debate over the Reese Walsh
and Hudson Young sin Bin. There was so much This
is the talk of the town. People are split over this.
Let's get into it. I'll let you get the first runs.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Yeah, well, I can tell our you was straight away
that pash Klein the referee, you got to pass Mark
out of this game.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And ash Klein you got to pass Mark.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Out of the game and will be in control of
one of the two finals this weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I don't know who.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I'm just telling you, just let on. I thought he
had enough game.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I believe you got a pass one.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Okay, tell you what, Accord, it was a tough game
ninety four minutes.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
That's what you've got to get. That's why you've got
to get the decisions. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
It's tougher for it. I just want to let's.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Go through the decisions.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
Then, okay, let's go through the first one.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
This one the head. But here from Reese Walsh, did
he get it wrong or what he wants to take it?
Speaker 8 (09:56):
So if you're going to get sin Bin now for
sell obraiding and getting them players faces, there won't be
a player every week. I watched that Cranella winger the
young symbian's wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You're saying, yes, so for you to.
Speaker 8 (10:09):
Come and get in someone's face, how many times do
we watch it? We don't like it? Right, but he's
allowed to do that. Hudson Young did nothing wrong. That
is not a noble offense, and Reswol should have got something.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
I think the r Old's viewers Gordy that Hudson Young
initiated contact. He didn't just get his face, He initiated
contact with him.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
I don't think it's I don't think he should have.
You believe what they told you.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
Yeah, I believe that's why they they back.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I don't have the decision.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
No, I don't think. I'm just knowing.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
What I would say in defense of the n L
is that at times throughout the season, in past seasons,
the player who runs in and incites the mela is
often the one if it turns in the third man.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
But then that's just those two, that's not third man.
If he went off, I'd go I agree with that,
but Hudson Young, that doesn't deserve.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
The concession I got out of the NRL today was
from that incident.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Camera was penalized.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
They have now admitted that camera should have got the penalty, absolutely,
and they people describe it like this, if you've got
a dickhead act which is Hudson Young right, you're behaving
like you did, and you've got a head butt, which
is blatant foul play.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
The foul play far outweighs.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
The dickhead and it was a cus they got the
penalty wrong spot on.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
We'll go a little deeper into those as well. But
Reese Walsh not being sighted, what's on that?
Speaker 8 (11:45):
I agree? I don't think there was too much in it.
I just would like to know if that was now
the solemn charge Gray one head butt, if that was
now head budding Reese, what would happen. That's just just
as long as we're consistent. I don't think there's two
much in it, Like, I really don't. I don't think
it's worth a week on the sideline. Do you think
it's worth a week?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And I think you're about to talk to it recording.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
Yeah, Yeah, it's consistent.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
The NRL has given us detail which is very much
consistent the last five players who had butted apparents on
the field, similar manner, not overly serious but still ahead.
But I've got off with a grade one, didn't miss
any footy. Well, now, Victor Radley example, he got three weeks.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
His was all about loading and that's the difference.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
So I am certainly not going to be bagging them
about lack of consistently because a.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Lot of people are messaging me today from clubs and
talking about Victor and it's had nothing to do a
record Victor loading.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
That's why when when you look.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
At those replays, you can see it's very similar to them,
to the Reese Walls things.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
So you want it.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Everyone's happy that Ree Walsh is playing next week. We
got that out of the way, Yes, yes, okay, I
want to get back to that penalty. So they got
it wrong, the penalty irrelevantly that they did. They should
have been a penalty to.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
To the raid as a result of the headbut they've
confirmed that to me, and this is one of the reasons. Look,
Klein didn't get it better than the pass. They told
me that was client's decision. The bunker ruled how to
look at it, but it was Klein's decision to penalize
Canberra for an in your face act of stupidity.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And you know.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Football players like Hudson Young and you're never going to
stop it, always going to applaud a mistake like that
and get in opponent's face.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Are you happy with it?
Speaker 7 (13:45):
That call, the submitting or the penalty was wrong. Penally
went to the wrong team, There's no doubt about that.
But I mean camera should have got the penalty in
that situation because Ree committed the gravey.
Speaker 9 (13:56):
So actually, where's all the drama?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Then you you got? I was just saying ash Clin
didn't have a good day. Where do you get it wrong?
Speaker 8 (14:04):
Well, a couple of times sides like to watch it
live Brisbane off side by like a meet like meters.
At some stage, I thought when Starling went through on
play two of the game and he pulled him up,
they lost all the momentum for party with.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
The players a tough carry.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
The second play the ball of the game, Starling goes
through a gap right and then they lose all momentum.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
I thought he got that one right there.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
Okay, then were Billy twenty minutes about fifteen minutes later
and there was no penalty.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
So he just wanted to be consistent, That's.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
What I'm saying. So it's not about the Raiders getting penalized.
It's about he didn't. So then they're consistency and the referee.
If we're talking about the referee consistency in his performance
through the game. And I'm not a referee, but I
know that he wouldn't have got a pass.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I think Camera had every opportunity with that game. Absolutely
they should have won, and.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
They wouldn't be blaming the the interest he wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Get spoke to Ricky Stewart this morning and you know,
he he was down. He he was if you can't, yeah,
he was calm made.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
He was really really shitty.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
He wasn't happy, and he's made his feelings known to
Andrew Abdo and Peter Balandi. He's made his feelings known
to them. But what I got out of the conversation
is he's going to walk into that presentation night tonight.
He's going to be upbeat and he's going to pick
those young players off the canvas the disappointment yesterday, and
(15:32):
they're going to rock up afternoon and that game against Coronala.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Will be a colossal game.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
It's a big job.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Will not give up.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
It's a big job for Ricky because it's unprecedented. They
he kissed his players on the bench and celebrated like
they won.
Speaker 9 (15:48):
They pretty much went one two or three times.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I don't know what they hold.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
Yeah, twice they celebrate a buzzs then beside me, I'm
thinking they've won this sitting there going wow.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
Well, the challenge is mental, right, It's not so much
physics for it's a mental challenge to get those blogs
up again after that they've I imagine that the dressing
dressingmen would have been so deflated.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
After that game.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
If they can get that right ready, Yeah, I think
they'll be fine because they are a great team and
they still even though they lost, you know, so that
they're a young team, but there are brilliant I can report.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
That was so emotional and so tense there on the
bus trip home last night, Gord, you need to have
a few.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Beers just to settle.
Speaker 9 (16:28):
Himself down, just a couple on a bus together.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah. Yeah, that it was like a nursing home. Bush
really was.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
The under control.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
How many bathroom stops did we have to make?
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Jimmy, that was Jimmy Gray.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
Honestly, it was like the nerd school just doing his homework.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, you talk about pressure, you talk about big moments,
and it was a question mark over Jamal Fogan heading
into this game, and through no fault of his own,
he just hadn't been put under pressure and big moments,
and there was there was a question mark. Will we
say that he fell short?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Well that's a question for you.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, well, yes, yes he did. And it was this
moment here the field the field goal so that kicks
kickable and you know, like it's hard to say. I
hate even saying it or even having to look at
this and go over it because it would be heartbreaking
for him. And he's had such an incredible year and
he's a great player. But again, nothing compares to when
(17:38):
you've got the kick, and it means so much to
not only you, but to your team, the fans you
threw to all prelim and that's when you find out
what you're made off, you know.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
And he still needs to prove that too against Peneth.
I think he missed the kick to he out at
what about.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
This about poverty?
Speaker 5 (17:59):
I think he's been and play actually share, But there
have been a couple of clutch moments that the really
good halves, the Cherry Evans is the clear eas and
those sort of guys they get them here.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Well, you've got you've got to make that field goal.
He's perfectly set up, set up for it's what fifteen
twenty meters out, you just got it twenty meters out.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
You've got to nail it.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Break. Is he in the right.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
You kicking right foot, right side of the post, you
got if you're right foot out, you want to be
at the right post, and then you throw so you're
around the left post, so it opens up and the
marker's got to chase from the from the art further, yeah, further.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
No one's saying he's not a great player. Break and
it's just I got that wrong.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
You get to the left post for a.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
Right halves get measured on the ability ship close close
the game out, and he had that opportunity on the weekend,
and this one gets me because he's in perfect position,
he's got time on his side. It's set up. You've
just got to make that.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, they didn't really set up for it that well,
but near to the Brisbane they had a chance to
set up for one as well.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
Earlier I think it was in Golden Point and they
didn't even go.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
What about the Welsh at tempt the cross forty from
forty two out to bounce off across bar.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
That was he didn't hit it probably either it went
too high if you know it goes over the back.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It was a crazy game. Now Billy Walter's unfortunately for him,
suffering a partial ACL ten Does that mean, like, do
we know much about the partial a cl? Is he
gone for the season.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
He's got to see a specialist on Wednesday, Break, and
it's look, it's highly unlikely a plaguga in this year,
but we won't know.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
For sure until he sees that specialist on Wednesday.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
So it's a devastating blay for Billy because again yesterday
Billy was outstanding at five eight.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
We're going to come on and debate about whether Renold
should be in or out now obviously now he comes
straight in right and it should have.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Come straight in anyway. Break, I can't even believe.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I cannot even believe we're having this. This has been debated.
Captain of the foot team.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, I know forty.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Contributes a bit and is a very very good player.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
Really only give you one thing if you have Ben
Hunt's career and Adam reynolds career and they retire, who's
had a better career.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Would just say Ben Ben would a great game, a
great game because Ben Hunt his own work.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
He got the job done.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
He did the job done.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Hit me with your right.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I haven't had a right about you for a while.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
The end, we don't know what's coming.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Well, I just wanted to short circuit and get in
and tell you what Ben Hunt's done.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
He has set ree Welsh a light.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Whereas there were Reeese was making a lot of mistakes
when Rena was there.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
He was played pretty good football alongside Adam Reynolds.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
He has played his best in his last five weeks. Yeah,
you boding.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Straight back and see you guys are saying that if
Walters is fit and was, Reynolds would have played his
last game for the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Really thinks Galvin should have went straight into the Bulldogs.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Yeah, so we're not talking about a rookie. We're talking
about a three hundred games that's played twenty State of Origins,
that's got.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
The team.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Listen, you don't change your winning formula.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
You do for black slug Adam Ronolds.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I believe you do anyway, Yeah, what do you think
he just.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
If Walters was fit.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
There is no way, in my view, you can change
the Broncos side to just set this competition up.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
For the last speak call from the boys that one
really firm that yeah, that's that's right. Bronco is to
play winner of Panthers and the Bulldogs. Do they have
what it takes to win the comp.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Time?
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Well, Broth, I said, you've got to be in the
top four to win it. I thought it was a
two horse race a couple of weeks ago. I think
they could win it. Brisbane definitely, but it's gonna be
tough in the know Pack Carragher next game and obviously
Billy with no Billy Walters now. So I still think
Melbourne and the favorites.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I still think Melbourne.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
Yeah, how do you okay, we'll get to that a
little bit later.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
How do you think they can win the Compliraders?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yeah, they hope. Yeah, anyone who's you know, to qualifier?
That's true, that's true. And well we're talking about the
Harps that Stacks what about him?
Speaker 4 (22:39):
What about believe I reckon he was the real savior.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
When it mattered.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
The other person who's going to appreciate this two weeks
off more than anyone playing half with that. He had
a bit of a hobble yesterday, so I think I
can win it.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, all right, let's have a look at a massive
week here. It was a massive week and this was
first one of finals week. Now the Storm beating the
Bulldogs twenty six points to eight, and what a game
that was. On Saturday the Panthers were too good for
the Warriors twenty four to eight, and then followed up
with the Sharks too good for the Roosters twenty points
to ten. Finishing with that epic encounter the Raiders twenty
(23:19):
eight been getting beaten by the Broncos twenty nine. And
this is week two, Saturday, this Saturday, six pm Raiders
up against the Sharks, followed by on Sunday two thirty
pm afternoon game the Bulldogs taking on the Panthers. Now,
there is some.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Late breaking news.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
The prelim schedule has changed and here it is right here.
The Melbourne Storm now will play on the Friday, September
twenty six either the Raiders or Sharks, and the Broncos
now play on Sunday, September twenty eighth against the winner
of the Bulldogs and Panthers.
Speaker 9 (23:52):
What do we think it is.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
It's a bit of an advantage in the Storm a
couple of days extra rest. I think it's look, I mean,
Sunday afternoon has been going. Game buses the role in
the finals. Just those game went through the roof, so
I can sort of understand why they've done it. But
it does give the Storm a bit of an edge. Well,
whoever wins that game on Friday night a bit of
an edge going into the ground.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
So why don't they move Storm to Saturday Al Final?
But it's going to be finished for two hours. Yeah,
and they're playing in the.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Same Melbourne stops the city on AFL Grand Final didn't
stop our game.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I probably agree with you, Gordy.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I probably agree, And I think ready makes a fair
point that one team getsday night, one team gets nine
days to repair, the other get seven.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Why couldn't they play the broncos.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
You know you two agreement, you are, Yeah, it is
an advantage like day listen, but you'd play it after
five I mean, and and side to play like a replay,
you know, three days after. So it's a game that
you're playing no matter how many days you get.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
The cool thing is the NRL have fallen in love
was Sunday Afternoon Football.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
They love it in the final come and buzz.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
I won't even I.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Went to Peter Ble and just paked him last paid.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Peter ploys a.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Grand look yesterday's game.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Pete, would he move horse racing? Delight?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Are you're not going to move there?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
You don't like enough?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
And grandfather all let's talk.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Bulldogs are brave, but injuries in the spine shake up
leaves them fighting for survival. The Monday buzz took a
fair swipe today.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Buzzy at the Dogies, Well, I think they're blundered. I do.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
I think their decision to drop Red Marney for bally
Haywood his mistake. Paul Bailey missed the tackles the other
day and they've only got a thirty three percent win
record with him there. With read Marney there they got
a seventy five percent records. Clear cut, they're a better
side with read Money.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
It's clear.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
It's not funny having said that Heywood's a terrific player
half five eight lock ll backup hooker now in the halves.
I have similar stats that prove beyond doubt that they
are a better side with Toby sext and at half back.
And I can see the look on your face over there.
(26:21):
I can see you're going to challenge this. I back
it up with cold hard.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Facts, the fact that the factor is earlier this year.
You were highly critical of read Money and said he
would cost them a finals.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Absolutely, I was. I was critical. Imagine I'm going to
stick my hand up and say that what I'm not saying,
I'm wrong, I'm saying Cameron. So I had a chat
to read Marnie and said, mate, you're giving away to
mental too many penalties. Pull your head and he did that.
Speaker 9 (26:50):
Are you worried about his discipline?
Speaker 7 (26:52):
I wasn't raised issues about it, No, not really, but
I look, I think he'd be in the hook he'll
I think I'm happy with bally Hayward and Hooker.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
But but you're happy with miss Towns.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
But if reed Money's in the seven.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
You picks in the seventeen this week, then you'll be
able to come on and give bally Hayward a rest,
give him a break. It's not great, but how many
times has bally Hayward done that this year?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You can't the other importance?
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Can I say one of.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
The things was one of the criticists of red money
that you and others have made is over his defense.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
But if you drop someone for the defense and someone
comes in, miss.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Did he get dropped for his defense? He did?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
What did he?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Why did you get I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Know really the other important Canterbury are in all sorts.
They have lost.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
They have won four of their last nine games, and
he's tried every trick to change that side. Now when
I say they've won four, it's really three because they
beat Penrith Reserve Grade.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
So let's make they were all on the weekend through
pure courage, show how the dogs, the sidarity there and
the culture that they've got that they are they're a team, right,
they're a club. But still the finesse wasn't there. They
had injuries and all that. We know that right, and
their backs were against the wall. But still.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Two of those losses of Melbourne, they could have easily
won both.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Those games, but they didn't.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
They didn't, but they could have won them there in
both those games against against Melbourne two three weeks ago,
but they held up the line three times for memory,
so they could have easily won that game.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Through Canterbury right, all this off, Gus God will tell
cam and its media destabilization that there after year that
they won a un said all the players that I
said when Galvin came across Brace said just well that
it has enormous, enormous potential to disrupt this football has
(28:57):
been proven.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
Right and as I said numerous times, they already on
the slide at that point we were there's two of
the four games before he got there.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
They do you think Galvin's been a success?
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Well say that.
Speaker 9 (29:13):
Because I haven't years the game point here, Really, that's
the point.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
It didn't look like scoring on the weekend until sex
and got on the field, I scored.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Maybe it's maybe I'll tell you what. Maybe it shows
at Galvin's sixth or seven chose three months maybe.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
A show that they in dropping Toby sext and you're saying,
now Galvin's a six.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Yes I am, but you know what they were going
to win. They weren't going to win the camp with
with Sex and.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Half know now, well I thought it.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
I think that you thought at one point this year,
because you've seen on the.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Season that was after.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Surround, he is going to be a sensational coach. You
can't get away from the fact mistakes have been made.
The interesting thing is on that column I wrote this morning,
you look at the reader's comments from Canterbury. They're ninety
five percent in agreeance with what we're basically saying here
tonight about sext and read last week I said.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
The Galvan signing is a lot. It's a long term
They've taken a long term view with it. There's been
some short term paper in the long term.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
If it's a long term view, you don't rush it.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
When it's a long term view.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Why to stabilize issue? Because I think they thought the
better chance to win in this year. I want to
move on from this because we've gone over so much.
What do I do this week?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Then?
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Well I play sex and a half back and Galvin
and six and Burton and Senners that.
Speaker 9 (30:47):
It was the right to see you know you're saying
you're going to put the sex?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
What what else do they do? How else do you exactly?
Because because I was in, would you left the halves
the same?
Speaker 6 (31:01):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Well, okay, all right, what would you guys have done?
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Sexting comes back in the morning. Give me a real chance,
give them a real chance in front of it.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Be a really hard, hard thing to do. If Crichton
was fit, I would play Sexton and Burton in the halfs.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, I'm the same. I'd have Sex and Gaalvint and
I'd probably move Burton to the centers with Yeah, I'm
doing I Just the bottom line is here is they
just need a half back playing half back like that
is they have over analyzed, over complicated, over thought this
(31:38):
whole process.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
I've got a young half back coming through breath and
Mitchell Woods will play there for a lot for a
long time ago and.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
He's not readyet three time, and neither is the other kid.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
There was a point this season they realized that we're
going to win the comp with Toby Sex and half.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
So they're coming, they're winning the camp and they decide
at that point they're not going to win the camp.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Clearly they did.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Well.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
I didn't think they were going to win the comp.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
I sat up in the start of you don't think
they've heard in dropping sext? No, I don't really.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Very drinking put it to bed, all right. So some
very sad news today with the death of legendary player
agent Wayne Beavers, who we've all known been associated with
what he was a legend I love absolute champion boke
what about right?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
What eighty three years about?
Speaker 5 (32:39):
It's one of the greatest characters I've ever met in
rugby league.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Whenever I rang him.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
There was a scandal with Jared Haynes, there was a
scandal with another play. Whatever it does, it's a storm
and a tea cup. Nothing's happened, it's all. And he
was so protective of his footballers. He really really was
almost to a fault some of the things he did
for them, you know. And you look at the media
career that people like Bo Ryan a Ford and I
(33:05):
remember I was edited a sports enter of the Telegraph
one day and Wayne's Freddie just retired. So when he
came in, we had a beer and he said, you
got to put Freddie on as a columnist, he said,
and this was long before anyone thought about Freddie the
TV star which is now.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And Wayne was behind all that, he really was.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
We heard how much he meant to bow Ryan to
the radio on Triple and he broke down in tears
he spoke of him. I had to leave the studio,
so I used a game changer sort of a head
of his time, Wayne Beavers.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
So he had a few run into in the media
because he was able to protect his players.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
A very Saturday for Rugby League. As we headed the break,
we would like to pass on our condolences to the
Beavers family and all of Wayne's friends from everyone here
at Foxley
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