Catch up on all the Rugby League news from NRL 360, Tuesday July 8th, with hosts Braith Anasta and Gorden Tallis.
Joined by Andrew Webster and Paul Crawley, the panel looks ahead to the Origin decider - can Cameron Munster channel emotion into one of his greatest performances after the recent passing of his father? Is this also Nathan Cleary’s final frontier in his rugby league journey? Plus, what’s really gone wrong at the Rabbitohs in 2025 - and is there a way out?
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Well the two three sixty rugby league from every angle
joining me again, the great, great and tallasspring. The journal
is in Paul Crawley and Andrew Webster and great news
for the Queensland Maroons. Cameron Munster has made it back
into camp for the Captain's run and Gordy, you know,
inspiration really be great to see.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, that's great news.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Obviously you didn't know how the week was going to
pat it out, but he looked to be bouncing around
and he's over yourself walked around and that's really good signs.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
If you're a Queensland f I don't think there'd be
a person in the game not feeling for Cameron Munster
write now, you know, such a sad situation ahead of
one of the biggest moments of his life.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
But good on him for coming back and being part
of it.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
It just shows you what a special player is that
he's been able to even say to Billy Slater straight
away on Sunday, I'll be playing there. You know, that
just shows what a competitor is. I'm just I can't
get there's nothing to compare it to. You know, I
talked to like a lot of historians across the game today.
And you know, I think back to I think back
to when Robbie Farre's mum died and like it just
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before that game at Art and Robbie didn't play and
it affected the team. I think of Michael Maguire's mum
dying the day before the fourteen Grand Final when he
was coaching Sounds. But nothing like that is not not
in origin at least, and not not a game of
this importance.
Speaker 7 (01:25):
So it's all the best for him, Monthly.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Sorry, it was really nice too, Gordy. I saw his
mum and wife Bianka and the kids. They must have traveled.
They did, They traveled back down with him from rock
Hampton and we're there for the captain's run, which was
a good touch too.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, that's, you know, the most important time of the years.
They have your family with you and you couldn't imagine
his mindset going into this. And I said the other
day that if he doesn't play, Queensland would obviously stand
behind him because family comes first. But they've chosen as
a family for here to go represent his dad and
I'm sure he'll do that tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
All right, let's cross live now to Blues camp wear
he South Wales team manager Frank Pernice he joins us
on the Goo True Blue Mike, Frank, thanks for joining us.
Good news for the Maroons with Cameron Munster back in camp,
and it must have been a bit tough for you
and Craig being so close to Cameron, but being in
the new South Wales camp. Why Kevin was going through
what he did this week?
Speaker 8 (02:22):
Yeah, thank you Brath.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It was.
Speaker 8 (02:24):
It certainly was. I'm not going to why it wasn't
Sunday morning. It was a tough phone call when Billy
called me. Craig was actually on a flight back from
Townsville after the Storm game, so you know he landed
and got the news there, and you know, obviously we
feel for Cameron. But Cameron's father, Stephen and mum Deborah,
they've been really big parts of the Storm for the
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last eleven years. Cameron came as a nineteen year old
and his parents have been wonderful supporters of his journey.
They spent a fair bit of time in Melbourne for
big games and milestones and parents weekend. So Stephen was
a real character and to get that new Sunday morning
was devastating.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Frank, I know he really loves you guys in Melbourne.
The support that you've given him and his family over
the years has been amazing, so thank you for that.
Now New soth Wales, is he going to be one
to seventeenth tomorrow night?
Speaker 8 (03:14):
We ared Braith. Yeah, that everyone got through. Obviously the
big injury clouds over the last ten days or so
it has been paynehas and Brian Tohu. Internally, we've handled
it really well. We knew from the start they were
going to be in some doubt and more importantly, we
knew that their preparation was going to be restricted, and
that's why we selected the team that we did. Jacob
Kiraz was selected as eighteenth, which probably shocked a few
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people picking Wingers your eighteenth, but he was in there
for Brian, so he covered all the trainings that Brian
couldn't do so and the players knew that if Brian
was going to be unavailable, it was just going to
be a smooth transition to Jacob and the same with Paine.
We knew that he was in some doubt as well
and he was going to certainly be restricted with his
training and that's why we picked Lindsay Smith. You know
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he deserves it for a start, but also picking a
player from a team that had the buy so we're
going to have him for the whole week. So from
our point of view, I know there's been a lot
of noise outside about the injuries, but it's been really
smooth and we've been certainly unflustered in that area.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I frank as scoredy, there's one thing that I was
jealous about the new South Wales. I do that big
long walk of walk of fame walking onto the ground.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You guys aren't going to do it. Is there a
reason for that?
Speaker 9 (04:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (04:27):
God, we probably had made that decision twelve months ago
after that first game that we lost, and it was
we just and we did it with consultation, without the
leaders most importantly, and that they were quite keen as
great it is the walk and running out, but their
preparation before the game was critical and getting dressed a
fair way away from the ground and they just wanted
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a normality as much as if possible, And you know
they're still going to get a normighty raw coming out
the other tunnel. And as especial, we walked there to
training last night, so we experienced that, but obviously without
the rule of running out. We just think for preparation
and in consultation with the players, based on what we
reviewed twelve months ago, we decided that's the best thing
Tomorrow night.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
Frank Andrew Webster here, mate, what are you expecting from.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Ashley Klein in the Origin Decider tomorrow night?
Speaker 8 (05:16):
We just got to worry about ourselves. We can't worry
about Ashley Klein or the officials. You know, game two.
We'll learn from our mistakes, and we didn't handle. Yes,
we've probably got one or two bad calls that every
team does every weekend, and I'm sure there was probably
a couple of queens thin could have got as well.
But we got flustered. We spoke about before about being unflustered.
We just got to worry about our game and being disciplined.
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And you know, there are a lot of penalties that
we shouldn't have have done, and we're going to be
certainly more disciplined in that area. So our major focus
is on ourselves.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Frank Paul Crawley here on that note, looking back in hindsight,
the start of that game, after such a dominant game one,
to start the game that way with the lack of
discipline and the lack of cohesion.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
In hindsight, could you see it coming.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Now?
Speaker 8 (06:07):
We probably didn't play scoring early. He probably didn't help us,
and I know that sounds quite bizarre, but we probably
lost a bit of focus and we didn't handle the
conditions well. That was incredibly wet over there, and we
probably started pushing passes and making things happen. You know,
getting that early try probably gave us a full sense
of security. So then we just became unflustered and you know,
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our discipline suffered as a result. So you know, we
looked at that very early in the in the last
week for the start of camp three. You know, we
looked at where we went wrong, but we also looked
at the positives and when we got back to just
playing the game plan and being more focused and more
discipline in the second half, we saw what we can do.
So you know, that's that's the the blueprint was in
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the second half and that's certainly going to be given
us a confidence and what we need to do tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Frank Nathan Cleary, some say it's the final frontier for him,
and also how's his body, how's his preparation. Beranie was
definitely impacted in Game two by it and hampered. How
is he prepared for this one?
Speaker 8 (07:07):
Been fantastic, Braith, He really has. He's the ultimate professional,
as we all know. That's probably being involved with him
this year. He wasn't involved in the series last year.
But you know, I was just talking to Craig Belly
me this afternoon. Just his professional is and the way
he prepares is just second to none. He's far more
relaxed this game. Obviously having that injury the day before
the game in Game two didn't help. He won't be
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doing the goalkicking tomorrow night, but everything else in terms
of kicking, he'll be the main kicker along with Jerome
Lewie and anyone else. But he's had a great preparation.
He hasn't missed any training. As I said, he's felt
very relaxed. He looks confident and I think he's in
for a really big game tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Beautiful good to hear.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Does that mean Zach Lomax will be doing the goalkeeping.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
More than likely?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Braith?
Speaker 8 (07:52):
He obviously had some tough kicks over there in Perth.
You know the couple hit the post as I said
the conditions were pretty ordinary. He did a great job
last year for us Zach goal kicking. You know, a
couple of games there that you know, especially that last
game he had a real pressure kick to make it
too all, you know, from the sideline on his wrong
side and we can see you. Even after Perth game
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he came back to paramatter and he kicked well straight away.
So he's been kicking well at training and we have
full confidence in him.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Frank Laurie seemed to be really confident through the week
every time he got interviewed. What's been the message slash
theme for Towyn Knight's decider.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
Yeah, Gordy, I think is our mindset in terms of
probably starting our training as well, so that transfers on
to the end of the game. We you know, as
Paul mentioned before, even though we scored the first try,
we didn't start well in Perth and there's been a
major focus all week on doing everything well from the start,
so he's been really focusing on that. But you know,
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he's a relaxed character, but when he speaks about the
game and getting close to the game, you can see
the passion and his experience coming through and you know,
we're very lucky to have someone of laurie'sill as our leader.
You know, the boys respect him. He's got a wonderful
group of coaches behind him, and he's got Craig advising him,
so you know, he's just been wonderful to work with.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Frank, I wanted to ask you about that. I spoke
to Billy earlier in the week. He reckons he's got
had a tiny little role to do with this new
South Wales team.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Are you buying that? Is that true? Is he is?
Speaker 6 (09:22):
How hands on is Craig Bellamy with the preparation for
this team?
Speaker 8 (09:28):
Yeah, Web, it's a great question in terms of I
was a little bit unsure myself how what craze roll
will billion and he was the same, to be honest,
and it's evolved as this series gone on. He's he
does a lot more than he makes out, but that's
just Craig just you know, keeping everything.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
On the low.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
He's you know, he'll come Lauria will ask him to
speak to the players as a team at times, he'll
also speak to players individually, and he does a lot
of work with the coaches themselves, you know, in the
background and the planning and giving some advice and he's
generally enjoyed the role, you know, and he's he's been
fantastic for the group. And it's probably I've seen him
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in a different role than I usually see him day
to day down in Melbourne, but it's certainly one that
I think he's It's been a great asset to the team.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Seems to be nice and relaxed, which is good to
see with their head coach in the Melbourne Storm. Thank
you very much, Frank. We appreciate your time so close
to the game. You've given us a lot of confidence
behind the Blues and good luck tomorrow night.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Thanks Brath there.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Is Frank Ponisi and we'll check in with Nate Miles
in Queensland camp shortly, but let's continue our origin to
preview thanks to Ford and Crawls. You think the Blues
only have themselves to blame if they lose this well.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I asked Frank that question because I thought from the
start of the game in game two, you could see
that the Blues it went out there with the cockininess
about them. Their discipline was very poor. Despite all the
criticism of the eight mild penalty count and Nashally climb
being one sided, the Blues had themselves to blame and
we saw in the second half how they came back
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and they put all those points on when they played
with discipline. So on paper they are clearly the best
team if you go through the two teams there and
you picked your best fullback, your best winger, is your
best centers. If we're being fired income New South Wales
take all those spots, they take the half back spot,
they take one of the props at least, they probably
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take the back rowers, and they take the lock. There's
thirteen on paper. On paper, no, no, they are clearly
the better team.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
If you're picking Australians to be dominated by in New
South Wales players with it.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, I want you to say that.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
No, it would, but you know what, it's.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Come on, you've got to admit on paper and New
South Wales, but it's not played on paper and that's
where we're lucky.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
And Origin never has Origin never has, never has.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
But that said, you know, I agree, cause I thought
it's smacked of complacency in the first half.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
They're in per when into that game, but just don't.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Give Queensland a really good guys they.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Were said, Well, I agree, I thought they were. They
were sensational and the way that they held on was sensational.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
I think people aren't giving Queensland.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Enough credit for that victory, and I think they go
into the decided tomorrow with a lot more confidence than
people sort of should be giving them credit for.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Uh you South.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I was with the shortest price favorites in almost Origin
Benning history heading into game two there, just based on
that on that team, I think it says a lot
that regardless of what happens tomorrow night, each coach, Billy
Slater and Laurie Daily will get criticized or lauded for
their selections. Lauri for keeping the team, not make any changes,
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not for bringing Colin and tongueing and and and Billy
has really thrown caution too, the win with the side
that he's he's picked and the changes that he's made,
and there is they're they're either going to both look
like or one's gonna look like a genius and one's
going to look like a dud.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Speculation and criticism comes with Origin, So I think I reckon.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Yeah, So both just delivered most of it.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
In fairness when we go and look at the selections.
Though Kalamtungi probably did himself no favors in that final
lead up game, he probably made the decision for Lorry.
So I think when Lorrie named this team, it's probably
what you expected. I think Billy has made some brave calls.
But before the game, I'll go out there and say
I think he's made the right call with Papa League.
I think he's a great decision and it could be
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a massive motivation and potentially it could lead them to victory.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Will mean a lot of people are split on this.
The Nathan Cleary Final Frontier winning an Origin decider as
the number seven for the Blues, which he hasn't done.
Do you agree with that or not?
Speaker 7 (13:45):
No, No, I don't. I don't think he's got anything
to prove.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
But this game is in the final front He's twenty seven,
He's probably got another eight years of football left.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
It's like it's.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Funny the narratives we spin in this game. I mean,
the guy's won three Origins, he's won a World car.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
But I'll tell you what though, if he wants to like,
I still don't.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
And this is the thing, the same questions are asked
about Joey's place in history around the same age as
Nathan is now, and I still think he's got a
way to go. I know he's won four comps and
I'm not knocking.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Him at all.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I'm not bagging him.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
He's a he's a he's a champion player and we
all know that.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
But he's never won a dally M and he hasn't win.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
If he wins an Origin Decider, it really buries the
the the argument in many ways.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
But he's front.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Are trying to say, I'm saying Tomorrow night's his final
front here. I think, what if he's going to get to.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Rate that again?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
So my reference there is that whether he's had great
Origin moments. But but as for owning the series, I
think we're yet to see that. And and while it's
not a criticism at Nathan at club level and in
Grand finals and games throughout the season, he has absolutely
dominated to prove himself as the game speed and this
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is just the natural progression.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
I just didn't have him as up there with Joey.
I don't. I don't have him up there with Joey
and Cameron.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
You know either, But he's dominating Grand finals like he's
got at least he's the fall of Frontier. But it
would be good to tick it off now, you know,
and it would take him to another echelon in the league.
It sort of buries the argument if he would bury
the argument. I don't read it because you know, there's
so many good teams in players in his team. They
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spread the points heret.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I think he's just been judged of this right. So
there's certain boxes you tick.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I remember Jonathan Thurston because he won that Grand Final
when he was really young. He had to go win
another comp because then he started dominating Oregon and then
they said, oh, but he hasn't won a competition.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
As captain and he hasn't led. So there's always boxes.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
That you've got to tick in memorable all with the
Andrew Johns and the Wally Lawses of the world. That's
the that's the shelf you sit on when there's certain
boxes that you have been.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know what I've been at this level and alongside
these normals, he's not far away is.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
The final front Let's sweach.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Not a criticism though, you know it's Nottism and there's
no question in the world for what he's achieved at
twenty seven years of age.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
It's just astonishing.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Like Brace said, it's a chance to tick another box
and it is the final frontier.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Thanks right, let's switch to the Morions and camera monster.
It's been it's been a horrible week. You know, there's
no other way to put him. I suppose the challenge
for him in this game is to harness all that
emotion and put it into his performance. You know, it's
it's it's it's probably easier said than done, and I
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think the reality is it's going to be a challenge
for him. If anyone can do it, it's Cameron. I
think we all agree on that, especially for Queensland and
especially the reasons he's playing, which a lot of it
would be for his family and his dad. But still,
you know it's going to be hard for him, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Look, you don't need motivation pulling on a state of
origin jersey for either state and being captain, so there
were so many carrots in front of him to go
out there and play and lead the side.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But there's just another one.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
There's another bit of motivation or the spirit that sits
on his shoulder that when he's there in a tough
moment that he can lean on someone.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
But yeah, can I say he's a new South Wales fan?
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Seeing those images of him at the Captain's run smiling
like that, it scares the shit out of me because
I just think he's got the game of you. He
played one of the games of his life and his
career in Game two. I'm expecting even more tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
You know the makeup of his personality better than us
break But he strikes you as that man who you
think back to Shane warn and he could handle turmoil
off the field and then go on and just adapt.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And Cameron strikes me.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
As that sort of player that he almost plays off
the top of his head, or he looks to play
off the top of his head, and he goes out
and plays what's.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
In front of him. And it wouldn't shock you one bit.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
If Cameron Munster goes out on the field on Wednesday
night and walks off the best player.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
It wouldn't shock me either. And I think he's going
to do great, so I wish him all the best
for him mye ICs. It's a unique situation that no
one really finds himself in, and I.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Wish him all the very best for you, bro.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Uh, it's it's been it's been tough because it was
it was a shock, and I haven't been able to
really see him. So I'm going to go to the
game and go see him in the sheds. But it's
been hard because I haven't really been and I wanted
to give him time for his family. You know, I
can relate to it. I think a lot of us
can have been in a similar situation. So I know
what he's going through and it's it's been difficult here.
But yeah, he's a great bloke, you know, and he
deserves all the best. So you can't wait for him
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to watch him play. Well, now let's move on and
we're going to have Nate Miles coming up and we'll
talk some more Origin and Queensland down the track. But
Souths running equal last with the Titans. Is that as
bad as it looks? I think it is.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
I watch that game on the weekend against Manly and yeah,
they're missing Cody, they're missing Latrell, Cam Murray's not there.
There's other players, you know, I think there's seven or
eight out at the moment. But for mine, it shows
you where this current sow Sydney roster is and the
depth of the club, and when you peel back the
layers of what's happened in recent years, for mine and sous.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Have denied it till they're blue in the face.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
But I keep going back to the moment they didn't
offer Adam Reynolds a two year deal. It's kind of
like when the seams fell apart at this joint because
in the years since, they've gone on and offered Cody
multiple contracts and another year next year they bought Jack White,
and Jack I think was over thirty years of age
and they offered him a four year deal. It just
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seems like since then they've made mistake upon mistake when
it comes to their roster, and I think they're paying
the price.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Now do you see it the same way?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I'm sorry, Crauls, I have to disagree with this one.
I I was as critical as anyone about Adam Reynolds
not getting a two year deal at that club.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
I thought it was madness for them to let him go.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
But you have to honestly say that this seasons You've
got to pin it on their injury toll, but there's
been an incredibly it's hard to think of a year
a club that's had a year with injuries like it.
I understand what you're talking about around the halves. That's
something they've got to deal with. But Adam, you can't
pin it on Adam Reynolds and the Lewis Dodds situation.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
That's part of it.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
But you know, you take our Cameron Murray, Cody Walker's
played eight games, Latrell's played ten. You know what I
reckon it is, I reckon they've been beaten. You know,
they've got through on heart for so much of this season.
I think the loss to the Melbourne Storm just broken
the floodgates have opened in the last two weeks, continually
continually going off injured and there's no depth below him,
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you know.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
What I mean. They've got players there.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Latrell as a fullback, right, Theatrell can really do some
damage when he gets up the good end of the field,
but from the back of the field, some of his
runs they're just there's no impact. There's there's no lightning speed.
Even on top of that, when you look at their wings,
there's no they haven't got the strong carriage. If Latrell
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can't do that out of the back end of the
field that they haven't got the other players. To me,
the roster's out of shape, and you talk about the
Lewis DoD thing again, it's a it's a seven hundred
and fifty thousand dollars mistake, you know, like across the
board they have made mistake upon mistake where other clubs
have left.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I said, I said, I think it was either was
it a last week There's been some poor decisions in
roster management. That's why they are where they are. I
mean injuries, yes, And I said again, the majority of
the year, I could understand where they were because they
had a significant injuries and key positions. But then you
look at last weekend where we conceded in fifty points.
I had climb or telling me, you know, White and Latrell,
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Cody Humphreys, Johnston narrow.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Like squad against team better team again the dogs.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
You know, you look at the West Tigers boards left
and center. Look their squad compared to that's the out squad.
Like really, I think you can get a bit. I
don't know, because they've been talking about their injuries all
year and year we go and considering the injuries and
then everyone sort of falls into that and you know
they have got the best on the planet.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Yeah, and it's not just they've been they've hardly settled
on a team and that's been a big factor.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Lay.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
A lot of that is too because of recruitment, right, well,
I want their injuries an't because of the recruitment Lewis.
If they bought the right half back or or made
better decisions, they wouldn't be in a hole. They're in Humphries.
They said that they were really happy at the start
of the year, but now he's.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
A young blake that's coming to win our real level
and played up up above himself for many weeks and
in recent weeks he struggled a bit, and again that
goes back to the depth of the club because he
probably wasn't brought in to do that job.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Dog was.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, I'm not disagreeing because they have had a torridy
injury toll. But to become an equal last with the
best coach in the world, with the players that had
on the weekend, I don't know. I don't think it's
I don't think it's acceptable and get the other team
to be cotton bullets left flight in the center if
they were in the same boat.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Finis to the players are out there too, like if
you if you go back and take away maybe the
last two weeks although they tried pretty hard on the
weekend too against Manly, but the rosters there was just
this difference in class.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
But the week before that was disappointing.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
The four weeks prior to that, they tried their hearts
out against four of the best teams in the comp.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
No question, the players out there are giving their changes.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Next year, then well break there's got to be changes
change last what the first thing that has to change
next year?
Speaker 5 (23:41):
There has to be a resolution on Dodd.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Now.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I know the club has come out and said that
there's no way they're going to push him out and
he has got a three year deal, but it's just
an ongoing problem until it's resolved because he's not playing
first grade there. It's seven hundred and fifty of the cap.
They've had some terrible luck, but that's one burden that
they have to swallow.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Me mad when Gray was back at full back, looked
like that the side had a bit more energy.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
He's been injured too, and.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Then maybe Latrell going to the centers, like we watched
that manly with Tomsie.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I think it I wouldn't think it's.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Going to happen.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I think it has to be considered at some stage
because you can see the player latrell Is he's an
absolute weapon when you get up to that other end
of the field and against the Warriors a few weeks
ago he nearly won the game in twenty minutes. But
the energy that he brings out of the back of
the field, it brings them down. Look at Ko weeks
on the weekend. What he does for Canberra, what Hammer
did when he played South's for the Dolphins, Souse don't
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have that.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
They don't have that energy coming out of the back
of the field. He joy Gray. If he's not the fullback,
at least get him a go in the halves. That's
where he played.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Troy used to turn her on and he still does.
But when he used to turn it on, they would
just they just win. There was no other result. But
now when he does turn it on and plays great,
which he has been given the circumstances that they're still struggling,
you know, it's a bit of a battle for him
and Cary doesn't help being out of the team for
the majority of you as well, So that's.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
What would you do with the till I play him
in the centers like I do.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Think he's a Ferrari and you don't need to put
that many miles on the klumb like on the clock.
I think he can have an impact. I watch him
at State of Oregon. It is the hardest game to
play scored all those tries because because he's outside of
the trail. I think he can have an impact with
any number he puts on his back, but I wouldn't
put him at full back.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
It also both shows you where they're at to the
fact that they are now offering Cody another year because
he's got the class to him that the players around
him haven't got. So it's a club's in a position
where they do have to offer him the next year.
But does that mean that they've got the roster right, No,
it means they've got to have a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Of junior house, isn't he.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
The kids coming through.
Speaker 9 (25:51):
Getting it's getting smaller the changing area really anyway you
go in their forwards going like they probably going to
come forwards right, there's no who they go to buy
certain you look at where what positions they need most
but who is on the market and who's available.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
And I think Gordon raises a good point too though
about the juniors and that because look at the rooster
system that they've set up another successful clubs. If you
don't have the kids, you've got to find the kids.
You've got to bring them in and get them up
to speed.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
All right, stick around journas and following us. It's Face
to Face with Lauren Dailey Part two.
Well the two three sixty rugby league from every angle
joining me again, the great, great and tallasspring. The journal
is in Paul Crawley and Andrew Webster and great news
for the Queensland Maroons. Cameron Munster has made it back
into camp for the Captain's run and Gordy, you know,
inspiration really be great to see.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, that's great news.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Obviously you didn't know how the week was going to
pat it out, but he looked to be bouncing around
and he's over yourself walked around and that's really good signs.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
If you're a Queensland f I don't think there'd be
a person in the game not feeling for Cameron Munster
write now, you know, such a sad situation ahead of
one of the biggest moments of his life.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
But good on him for coming back and being part
of it.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
It just shows you what a special player is that
he's been able to even say to Billy Slater straight
away on Sunday, I'll be playing there. You know, that
just shows what a competitor is. I'm just I can't
get there's nothing to compare it to. You know, I
talked to like a lot of historians across the game today.
And you know, I think back to I think back
to when Robbie Farre's mum died and like it just
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before that game at Art and Robbie didn't play and
it affected the team. I think of Michael Maguire's mum
dying the day before the fourteen Grand Final when he
was coaching Sounds. But nothing like that is not not
in origin at least, and not not a game of
this importance.
Speaker 7 (01:25):
So it's all the best for him, Monthly.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Sorry, it was really nice too, Gordy. I saw his
mum and wife Bianka and the kids. They must have traveled.
They did, They traveled back down with him from rock
Hampton and we're there for the captain's run, which was
a good touch too.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, that's, you know, the most important time of the years.
They have your family with you and you couldn't imagine
his mindset going into this. And I said the other
day that if he doesn't play, Queensland would obviously stand
behind him because family comes first. But they've chosen as
a family for here to go represent his dad and
I'm sure he'll do that tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
All right, let's cross live now to Blues camp wear
he South Wales team manager Frank Pernice he joins us
on the Goo True Blue Mike, Frank, thanks for joining us.
Good news for the Maroons with Cameron Munster back in camp,
and it must have been a bit tough for you
and Craig being so close to Cameron, but being in
the new South Wales camp. Why Kevin was going through
what he did this week?
Speaker 8 (02:22):
Yeah, thank you Brath.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It was.
Speaker 8 (02:24):
It certainly was. I'm not going to why it wasn't
Sunday morning. It was a tough phone call when Billy
called me. Craig was actually on a flight back from
Townsville after the Storm game, so you know he landed
and got the news there, and you know, obviously we
feel for Cameron. But Cameron's father, Stephen and mum Deborah,
they've been really big parts of the Storm for the
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last eleven years. Cameron came as a nineteen year old
and his parents have been wonderful supporters of his journey.
They spent a fair bit of time in Melbourne for
big games and milestones and parents weekend. So Stephen was
a real character and to get that new Sunday morning
was devastating.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Frank, I know he really loves you guys in Melbourne.
The support that you've given him and his family over
the years has been amazing, so thank you for that.
Now New soth Wales, is he going to be one
to seventeenth tomorrow night?
Speaker 8 (03:14):
We ared Braith. Yeah, that everyone got through. Obviously the
big injury clouds over the last ten days or so
it has been paynehas and Brian Tohu. Internally, we've handled
it really well. We knew from the start they were
going to be in some doubt and more importantly, we
knew that their preparation was going to be restricted, and
that's why we selected the team that we did. Jacob
Kiraz was selected as eighteenth, which probably shocked a few
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people picking Wingers your eighteenth, but he was in there
for Brian, so he covered all the trainings that Brian
couldn't do so and the players knew that if Brian
was going to be unavailable, it was just going to
be a smooth transition to Jacob and the same with Paine.
We knew that he was in some doubt as well
and he was going to certainly be restricted with his
training and that's why we picked Lindsay Smith. You know
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he deserves it for a start, but also picking a
player from a team that had the buy so we're
going to have him for the whole week. So from
our point of view, I know there's been a lot
of noise outside about the injuries, but it's been really
smooth and we've been certainly unflustered in that area.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I frank as scoredy, there's one thing that I was
jealous about the new South Wales. I do that big
long walk of walk of fame walking onto the ground.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You guys aren't going to do it. Is there a
reason for that?
Speaker 9 (04:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (04:27):
God, we probably had made that decision twelve months ago
after that first game that we lost, and it was
we just and we did it with consultation, without the
leaders most importantly, and that they were quite keen as
great it is the walk and running out, but their
preparation before the game was critical and getting dressed a
fair way away from the ground and they just wanted
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a normality as much as if possible, And you know
they're still going to get a normighty raw coming out
the other tunnel. And as especial, we walked there to
training last night, so we experienced that, but obviously without
the rule of running out. We just think for preparation
and in consultation with the players, based on what we
reviewed twelve months ago, we decided that's the best thing
Tomorrow night.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
Frank Andrew Webster here, mate, what are you expecting from.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Ashley Klein in the Origin Decider tomorrow night?
Speaker 8 (05:16):
We just got to worry about ourselves. We can't worry
about Ashley Klein or the officials. You know, game two.
We'll learn from our mistakes, and we didn't handle. Yes,
we've probably got one or two bad calls that every
team does every weekend, and I'm sure there was probably
a couple of queens thin could have got as well.
But we got flustered. We spoke about before about being unflustered.
We just got to worry about our game and being disciplined.
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And you know, there are a lot of penalties that
we shouldn't have have done, and we're going to be
certainly more disciplined in that area. So our major focus
is on ourselves.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Frank Paul Crawley here on that note, looking back in hindsight,
the start of that game, after such a dominant game one,
to start the game that way with the lack of
discipline and the lack of cohesion.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
In hindsight, could you see it coming.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Now?
Speaker 8 (06:07):
We probably didn't play scoring early. He probably didn't help us,
and I know that sounds quite bizarre, but we probably
lost a bit of focus and we didn't handle the
conditions well. That was incredibly wet over there, and we
probably started pushing passes and making things happen. You know,
getting that early try probably gave us a full sense
of security. So then we just became unflustered and you know,
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our discipline suffered as a result. So you know, we
looked at that very early in the in the last
week for the start of camp three. You know, we
looked at where we went wrong, but we also looked
at the positives and when we got back to just
playing the game plan and being more focused and more
discipline in the second half, we saw what we can do.
So you know, that's that's the the blueprint was in
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the second half and that's certainly going to be given
us a confidence and what we need to do tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Frank Nathan Cleary, some say it's the final frontier for him,
and also how's his body, how's his preparation. Beranie was
definitely impacted in Game two by it and hampered. How
is he prepared for this one?
Speaker 8 (07:07):
Been fantastic, Braith, He really has. He's the ultimate professional,
as we all know. That's probably being involved with him
this year. He wasn't involved in the series last year.
But you know, I was just talking to Craig Belly
me this afternoon. Just his professional is and the way
he prepares is just second to none. He's far more
relaxed this game. Obviously having that injury the day before
the game in Game two didn't help. He won't be
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doing the goalkicking tomorrow night, but everything else in terms
of kicking, he'll be the main kicker along with Jerome
Lewie and anyone else. But he's had a great preparation.
He hasn't missed any training. As I said, he's felt
very relaxed. He looks confident and I think he's in
for a really big game tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Beautiful good to hear.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Does that mean Zach Lomax will be doing the goalkeeping.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
More than likely?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Braith?
Speaker 8 (07:52):
He obviously had some tough kicks over there in Perth.
You know the couple hit the post as I said
the conditions were pretty ordinary. He did a great job
last year for us Zach goal kicking. You know, a
couple of games there that you know, especially that last
game he had a real pressure kick to make it
too all, you know, from the sideline on his wrong
side and we can see you. Even after Perth game
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he came back to paramatter and he kicked well straight away.
So he's been kicking well at training and we have
full confidence in him.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Frank Laurie seemed to be really confident through the week
every time he got interviewed. What's been the message slash
theme for Towyn Knight's decider.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
Yeah, Gordy, I think is our mindset in terms of
probably starting our training as well, so that transfers on
to the end of the game. We you know, as
Paul mentioned before, even though we scored the first try,
we didn't start well in Perth and there's been a
major focus all week on doing everything well from the start,
so he's been really focusing on that. But you know,
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he's a relaxed character, but when he speaks about the
game and getting close to the game, you can see
the passion and his experience coming through and you know,
we're very lucky to have someone of laurie'sill as our leader.
You know, the boys respect him. He's got a wonderful
group of coaches behind him, and he's got Craig advising him,
so you know, he's just been wonderful to work with.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Frank, I wanted to ask you about that. I spoke
to Billy earlier in the week. He reckons he's got
had a tiny little role to do with this new
South Wales team.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Are you buying that? Is that true? Is he is?
Speaker 6 (09:22):
How hands on is Craig Bellamy with the preparation for
this team?
Speaker 8 (09:28):
Yeah, Web, it's a great question in terms of I
was a little bit unsure myself how what craze roll
will billion and he was the same, to be honest,
and it's evolved as this series gone on. He's he
does a lot more than he makes out, but that's
just Craig just you know, keeping everything.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
On the low.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
He's you know, he'll come Lauria will ask him to
speak to the players as a team at times, he'll
also speak to players individually, and he does a lot
of work with the coaches themselves, you know, in the
background and the planning and giving some advice and he's
generally enjoyed the role, you know, and he's he's been
fantastic for the group. And it's probably I've seen him
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in a different role than I usually see him day
to day down in Melbourne, but it's certainly one that
I think he's It's been a great asset to the team.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Seems to be nice and relaxed, which is good to
see with their head coach in the Melbourne Storm. Thank
you very much, Frank. We appreciate your time so close
to the game. You've given us a lot of confidence
behind the Blues and good luck tomorrow night.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Thanks Brath there.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Is Frank Ponisi and we'll check in with Nate Miles
in Queensland camp shortly, but let's continue our origin to
preview thanks to Ford and Crawls. You think the Blues
only have themselves to blame if they lose this well.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I asked Frank that question because I thought from the
start of the game in game two, you could see
that the Blues it went out there with the cockininess
about them. Their discipline was very poor. Despite all the
criticism of the eight mild penalty count and Nashally climb
being one sided, the Blues had themselves to blame and
we saw in the second half how they came back
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and they put all those points on when they played
with discipline. So on paper they are clearly the best
team if you go through the two teams there and
you picked your best fullback, your best winger, is your
best centers. If we're being fired income New South Wales
take all those spots, they take the half back spot,
they take one of the props at least, they probably
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take the back rowers, and they take the lock. There's
thirteen on paper. On paper, no, no, they are clearly
the better team.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
If you're picking Australians to be dominated by in New
South Wales players with it.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, I want you to say that.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
No, it would, but you know what, it's.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Come on, you've got to admit on paper and New
South Wales, but it's not played on paper and that's
where we're lucky.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
And Origin never has Origin never has, never has.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
But that said, you know, I agree, cause I thought
it's smacked of complacency in the first half.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
They're in per when into that game, but just don't.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Give Queensland a really good guys they.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Were said, Well, I agree, I thought they were. They
were sensational and the way that they held on was sensational.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
I think people aren't giving Queensland.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Enough credit for that victory, and I think they go
into the decided tomorrow with a lot more confidence than
people sort of should be giving them credit for.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Uh you South.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I was with the shortest price favorites in almost Origin
Benning history heading into game two there, just based on
that on that team, I think it says a lot
that regardless of what happens tomorrow night, each coach, Billy
Slater and Laurie Daily will get criticized or lauded for
their selections. Lauri for keeping the team, not make any changes,
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not for bringing Colin and tongueing and and and Billy
has really thrown caution too, the win with the side
that he's he's picked and the changes that he's made,
and there is they're they're either going to both look
like or one's gonna look like a genius and one's
going to look like a dud.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Speculation and criticism comes with Origin, So I think I reckon.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Yeah, So both just delivered most of it.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
In fairness when we go and look at the selections.
Though Kalamtungi probably did himself no favors in that final
lead up game, he probably made the decision for Lorry.
So I think when Lorrie named this team, it's probably
what you expected. I think Billy has made some brave calls.
But before the game, I'll go out there and say
I think he's made the right call with Papa League.
I think he's a great decision and it could be
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a massive motivation and potentially it could lead them to victory.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Will mean a lot of people are split on this.
The Nathan Cleary Final Frontier winning an Origin decider as
the number seven for the Blues, which he hasn't done.
Do you agree with that or not?
Speaker 7 (13:45):
No, No, I don't. I don't think he's got anything
to prove.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
But this game is in the final front He's twenty seven,
He's probably got another eight years of football left.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
It's like it's.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Funny the narratives we spin in this game. I mean,
the guy's won three Origins, he's won a World car.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
But I'll tell you what though, if he wants to like,
I still don't.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
And this is the thing, the same questions are asked
about Joey's place in history around the same age as
Nathan is now, and I still think he's got a
way to go. I know he's won four comps and
I'm not knocking.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Him at all.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I'm not bagging him.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
He's a he's a he's a champion player and we
all know that.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
But he's never won a dally M and he hasn't win.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
If he wins an Origin Decider, it really buries the
the the argument in many ways.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
But he's front.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Are trying to say, I'm saying Tomorrow night's his final
front here. I think, what if he's going to get to.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Rate that again?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
So my reference there is that whether he's had great
Origin moments. But but as for owning the series, I
think we're yet to see that. And and while it's
not a criticism at Nathan at club level and in
Grand finals and games throughout the season, he has absolutely
dominated to prove himself as the game speed and this
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is just the natural progression.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
I just didn't have him as up there with Joey.
I don't. I don't have him up there with Joey
and Cameron.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
You know either, But he's dominating Grand finals like he's
got at least he's the fall of Frontier. But it
would be good to tick it off now, you know,
and it would take him to another echelon in the league.
It sort of buries the argument if he would bury
the argument. I don't read it because you know, there's
so many good teams in players in his team. They
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spread the points heret.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I think he's just been judged of this right. So
there's certain boxes you tick.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I remember Jonathan Thurston because he won that Grand Final
when he was really young. He had to go win
another comp because then he started dominating Oregon and then
they said, oh, but he hasn't won a competition.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
As captain and he hasn't led. So there's always boxes.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
That you've got to tick in memorable all with the
Andrew Johns and the Wally Lawses of the world. That's
the that's the shelf you sit on when there's certain
boxes that you have been.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know what I've been at this level and alongside
these normals, he's not far away is.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
The final front Let's sweach.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Not a criticism though, you know it's Nottism and there's
no question in the world for what he's achieved at
twenty seven years of age.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
It's just astonishing.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Like Brace said, it's a chance to tick another box
and it is the final frontier.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Thanks right, let's switch to the Morions and camera monster.
It's been it's been a horrible week. You know, there's
no other way to put him. I suppose the challenge
for him in this game is to harness all that
emotion and put it into his performance. You know, it's
it's it's it's probably easier said than done, and I
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think the reality is it's going to be a challenge
for him. If anyone can do it, it's Cameron. I
think we all agree on that, especially for Queensland and
especially the reasons he's playing, which a lot of it
would be for his family and his dad. But still,
you know it's going to be hard for him, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Look, you don't need motivation pulling on a state of
origin jersey for either state and being captain, so there
were so many carrots in front of him to go
out there and play and lead the side.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But there's just another one.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
There's another bit of motivation or the spirit that sits
on his shoulder that when he's there in a tough
moment that he can lean on someone.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
But yeah, can I say he's a new South Wales fan?
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Seeing those images of him at the Captain's run smiling
like that, it scares the shit out of me because
I just think he's got the game of you. He
played one of the games of his life and his
career in Game two. I'm expecting even more tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
You know the makeup of his personality better than us
break But he strikes you as that man who you
think back to Shane warn and he could handle turmoil
off the field and then go on and just adapt.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And Cameron strikes me.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
As that sort of player that he almost plays off
the top of his head, or he looks to play
off the top of his head, and he goes out
and plays what's.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
In front of him. And it wouldn't shock you one bit.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
If Cameron Munster goes out on the field on Wednesday
night and walks off the best player.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
It wouldn't shock me either. And I think he's going
to do great, so I wish him all the best
for him mye ICs. It's a unique situation that no
one really finds himself in, and I.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Wish him all the very best for you, bro.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Uh, it's it's been it's been tough because it was
it was a shock, and I haven't been able to
really see him. So I'm going to go to the
game and go see him in the sheds. But it's
been hard because I haven't really been and I wanted
to give him time for his family. You know, I
can relate to it. I think a lot of us
can have been in a similar situation. So I know
what he's going through and it's it's been difficult here.
But yeah, he's a great bloke, you know, and he
deserves all the best. So you can't wait for him
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to watch him play. Well, now let's move on and
we're going to have Nate Miles coming up and we'll
talk some more Origin and Queensland down the track. But
Souths running equal last with the Titans. Is that as
bad as it looks? I think it is.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
I watch that game on the weekend against Manly and yeah,
they're missing Cody, they're missing Latrell, Cam Murray's not there.
There's other players, you know, I think there's seven or
eight out at the moment. But for mine, it shows
you where this current sow Sydney roster is and the
depth of the club, and when you peel back the
layers of what's happened in recent years, for mine and sous.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Have denied it till they're blue in the face.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
But I keep going back to the moment they didn't
offer Adam Reynolds a two year deal. It's kind of
like when the seams fell apart at this joint because
in the years since, they've gone on and offered Cody
multiple contracts and another year next year they bought Jack White,
and Jack I think was over thirty years of age
and they offered him a four year deal. It just
(19:46):
seems like since then they've made mistake upon mistake when
it comes to their roster, and I think they're paying
the price.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Now do you see it the same way?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I'm sorry, Crauls, I have to disagree with this one.
I I was as critical as anyone about Adam Reynolds
not getting a two year deal at that club.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
I thought it was madness for them to let him go.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
But you have to honestly say that this seasons You've
got to pin it on their injury toll, but there's
been an incredibly it's hard to think of a year
a club that's had a year with injuries like it.
I understand what you're talking about around the halves. That's
something they've got to deal with. But Adam, you can't
pin it on Adam Reynolds and the Lewis Dodds situation.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
That's part of it.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
But you know, you take our Cameron Murray, Cody Walker's
played eight games, Latrell's played ten. You know what I
reckon it is, I reckon they've been beaten. You know,
they've got through on heart for so much of this season.
I think the loss to the Melbourne Storm just broken
the floodgates have opened in the last two weeks, continually
continually going off injured and there's no depth below him,
(20:51):
you know.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
What I mean. They've got players there.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Latrell as a fullback, right, Theatrell can really do some
damage when he gets up the good end of the field,
but from the back of the field, some of his
runs they're just there's no impact. There's there's no lightning speed.
Even on top of that, when you look at their wings,
there's no they haven't got the strong carriage. If Latrell
(21:14):
can't do that out of the back end of the
field that they haven't got the other players. To me,
the roster's out of shape, and you talk about the
Lewis DoD thing again, it's a it's a seven hundred
and fifty thousand dollars mistake, you know, like across the
board they have made mistake upon mistake where other clubs
have left.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I said, I said, I think it was either was
it a last week There's been some poor decisions in
roster management. That's why they are where they are. I
mean injuries, yes, And I said again, the majority of
the year, I could understand where they were because they
had a significant injuries and key positions. But then you
look at last weekend where we conceded in fifty points.
I had climb or telling me, you know, White and Latrell,
(21:52):
Cody Humphreys, Johnston narrow.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Like squad against team better team again the dogs.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
You know, you look at the West Tigers boards left
and center. Look their squad compared to that's the out squad.
Like really, I think you can get a bit. I
don't know, because they've been talking about their injuries all
year and year we go and considering the injuries and
then everyone sort of falls into that and you know
they have got the best on the planet.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Yeah, and it's not just they've been they've hardly settled
on a team and that's been a big factor.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Lay.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
A lot of that is too because of recruitment, right, well,
I want their injuries an't because of the recruitment Lewis.
If they bought the right half back or or made
better decisions, they wouldn't be in a hole. They're in Humphries.
They said that they were really happy at the start
of the year, but now he's.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
A young blake that's coming to win our real level
and played up up above himself for many weeks and
in recent weeks he struggled a bit, and again that
goes back to the depth of the club because he
probably wasn't brought in to do that job.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Dog was.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, I'm not disagreeing because they have had a torridy
injury toll. But to become an equal last with the
best coach in the world, with the players that had
on the weekend, I don't know. I don't think it's
I don't think it's acceptable and get the other team
to be cotton bullets left flight in the center if
they were in the same boat.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Finis to the players are out there too, like if
you if you go back and take away maybe the
last two weeks although they tried pretty hard on the
weekend too against Manly, but the rosters there was just
this difference in class.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
But the week before that was disappointing.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
The four weeks prior to that, they tried their hearts
out against four of the best teams in the comp.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
No question, the players out there are giving their changes.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Next year, then well break there's got to be changes
change last what the first thing that has to change
next year?
Speaker 5 (23:41):
There has to be a resolution on Dodd.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Now.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I know the club has come out and said that
there's no way they're going to push him out and
he has got a three year deal, but it's just
an ongoing problem until it's resolved because he's not playing
first grade there. It's seven hundred and fifty of the cap.
They've had some terrible luck, but that's one burden that
they have to swallow.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Me mad when Gray was back at full back, looked
like that the side had a bit more energy.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
He's been injured too, and.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Then maybe Latrell going to the centers, like we watched
that manly with Tomsie.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I think it I wouldn't think it's.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Going to happen.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I think it has to be considered at some stage
because you can see the player latrell Is he's an
absolute weapon when you get up to that other end
of the field and against the Warriors a few weeks
ago he nearly won the game in twenty minutes. But
the energy that he brings out of the back of
the field, it brings them down. Look at Ko weeks
on the weekend. What he does for Canberra, what Hammer
did when he played South's for the Dolphins, Souse don't
(24:35):
have that.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
They don't have that energy coming out of the back
of the field. He joy Gray. If he's not the fullback,
at least get him a go in the halves. That's
where he played.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Troy used to turn her on and he still does.
But when he used to turn it on, they would
just they just win. There was no other result. But
now when he does turn it on and plays great,
which he has been given the circumstances that they're still struggling,
you know, it's a bit of a battle for him
and Cary doesn't help being out of the team for
the majority of you as well, So that's.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
What would you do with the till I play him
in the centers like I do.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Think he's a Ferrari and you don't need to put
that many miles on the klumb like on the clock.
I think he can have an impact. I watch him
at State of Oregon. It is the hardest game to
play scored all those tries because because he's outside of
the trail. I think he can have an impact with
any number he puts on his back, but I wouldn't
put him at full back.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
It also both shows you where they're at to the
fact that they are now offering Cody another year because
he's got the class to him that the players around
him haven't got. So it's a club's in a position
where they do have to offer him the next year.
But does that mean that they've got the roster right, No,
it means they've got to have a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Of junior house, isn't he.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
The kids coming through.
Speaker 9 (25:51):
Getting it's getting smaller the changing area really anyway you
go in their forwards going like they probably going to
come forwards right, there's no who they go to buy
certain you look at where what positions they need most
but who is on the market and who's available.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
And I think Gordon raises a good point too though
about the juniors and that because look at the rooster
system that they've set up another successful clubs. If you
don't have the kids, you've got to find the kids.
You've got to bring them in and get them up
to speed.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
All right, stick around journas and following us. It's Face
to Face with Lauren Dailey Part two.
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