Catch up on all the Rugby League news from NRL 360, Wednesday July 30th, with hosts Braith Anasta and Gorden Tallis.
Joined by James Hooper and Dave Riccio, the panel debate if Anthony Seibold will survive as Manly coach if they fail to make finals in 2025, Jarome Luai's contract before his mage clash against Galvin and the Bulldogs and everything concerning the top eight.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Just six competition rounds remaining, and you better believed that
heat is on in the race for the NRL Finals.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Go in five, keep keep moben.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
So boys, what are we going to do with ten
teams chasing eight spots? About seven point thirty This Super
Saturday Double Box League match to the round ninth place
Seagulls up against the tenth place Roosters. These two have
been going at each other since the nineteen forties, a
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proud history, including two Grand finals, Manly Home in seventy
two on the back of this grade great Pom Malcolm
Really then the Roosters saluting in twenty thirty Trent Robertson's
first year as coach.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Hey, the harder you go on the patch, the better
team will become.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
In fact, Robos only ever missed the finals once eleven
out of twelve, including the past eight series straight es.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Big Daniel Tupo one of the best finishers in the
game in.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Korea best four and he could say the same about
his kid Mark the one g Didnawa Sai because it's
his first season and thirty tries already, all right, Lovatoya,
Little Sam Walker and Lindsay Collins down, isn't here playing
some minutes up against Lehi Hoppawadi two or three Travoievitch's plus.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Daily Cherry Evans.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
That's about as manly as it gets.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
For now anyway, the rugby light gods have spoken.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Ah the Seagulls versus the Roosters, with the finals.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Calling oh's sake, some rugby lea played here.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Don't miss the match of the round seven thirty Super
Saturday limes and exclusive right here on Fox League.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Hello and welcome to turn on three sixty re league
from every angle joining them again the Great Gordon Tallers.
It's been the journals in James Hooper and Dave Riccio
and it's getting to do or die stages with this
Seagles taking on the Roosters Super Saturday, exclusively live in
Fox League seven thirty five pm. Mainly Seagles in ninth position,
Roosters in tenth. It's at the must win stage for
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both teams, right.
Speaker 7 (02:29):
Best time of the year, bra It's September only just
around the corner, and every game genuinely means something.
Speaker 8 (02:35):
Gordy, Yeah, absolutely, I think the Roosters you know there
and maybe the side of that misses this game doesn't
make the finals what do you reckon it's that big.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, it's huge, it is.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
And these you know, this is the game where it's
now that point in time when you you know, when.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You'd look back on the season, you go, we dropped
that game. We should have won that one. Yeah, that's
what teams are doing right now.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Certainly these teams probably because because they're in the fight.
They're in the fight and it's it's time to get
the momentum going.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
And the Ruster has missed an opportunity last week mainly
not so much got hammered by the Bulldogs. And Sebes
is it important for him that they finish strong hoops?
Speaker 7 (03:14):
Definitely, even definitely it is critical breath. It's going to
be performance based. You just keep hearing rumblings out of
the Manly current playing group about some of the shortcomings
that they believe Sebes has as.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
An NRL coach.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
And you know, if you go back for decades at Manly,
the Fulton family and Des Hasler ruled the Seagulls with
an iron fist. They won premierships nine seven, nine to
ninety six, twenty eight, twenty eleven, and there was always
a lot of factionalism, politics, and infighting even when they
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were having success. Fast forward to twenty twenty five, nothing
has changed. There's still a lot of politics going on
underneath the surface on the Northern Beaches and there's a
big sean at the moment from some ex players who
have won premierships with that club to try and get
Anthony Seabolt overthrown and to get Matt Ballen put in.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
On the back of that with Sea Bowlt. Does he
need to make the aide to keep his job or not?
Speaker 7 (04:17):
I think he'll just be a comment in fairness to him, right.
You look at their results this year, the nine wins
and nine losses and they've got a positive differential. I
don't think he necessarily has to make the ape, but
the fact that some of these ex players are leading
that push because they're clearly disgruntled with the way that
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the player talking the current players at the moment, absolutely
no question they are.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I think some of the current players, they're the players
for the most successful part ear of the club too.
They've earnt the right to have their opinion on the
success of the footy club. I must say to you
Sebs's defense, he has had a pretty shocking injury toll
in that in that pack, Josh Ellow and Nathan Brown,
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Persecca Croaker like that he's had some issues.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Look, Jimmy might be getting you might be a little
bit different.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Male.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I still think he's vibes and gets the start next
season at least.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Well, aren't they already preparing for life after Seves or
is that just rumors?
Speaker 7 (05:18):
Well, no, we spoke about it on this show. It
was only a month ago where I think the CEO,
Toney Mestrov said seems is safe for now and supposedly
add two games to guarantee his future.
Speaker 9 (05:30):
Now.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Since then, in fairness, they've won three out of four games,
including beating Melbourne on the road, which is the toughest
road trip in the NRL. So there just continues to
be a lot of noise and a lot of discontent.
And I can see you in the foreseable future. I'm
not sure he's how long term.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
Maybe if it comes down to the senior players, he's gone.
If it comes down to the young kids, he probably stays.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (05:53):
I mean like that's just looking from the outside in.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
And he did say that he doesn't want to coach,
which is strange. Yeah, and everybody's going to die press call.
Speaker 9 (06:03):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
I think from that, Jakobovich still has no indication of
where he's captain.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Is heading as the DCE drama drags on.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Are you aware that it's a bit of a novelty
in terms of Chairs playing against the side that looks
like he's going to next year?
Speaker 10 (06:18):
Well, like it seems that way, but like I haven't
heard that from Chairs or whatever, But that's the way
it seems to be going. I guess people out there,
don't they all they seem to be right. He's chosen
to move on. We can't control that. That's his decision.
He's got a right to do that if he's gone
there before. We want to play well and press it,
you know what I mean. So hopefully that works for
us and puts in a great performance and we go
out and play with.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
The well Jakie, you got to love him.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
He's always positive and bubbly and no matter what, he's
got a smile on his face. And yeah, I mean
it's still going on. There's no official announcement a big
game for DC though.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
If he is playing his new club.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
Yeah, and it's hard and that's the worst thing, right,
So when they don't make a decision. It's hard on
the rest of the group because they keep on getting asked,
We keep on getting all as he should have done
was way back when Round six or whatever come out,
So this is where I'm going and it gets put
to bed.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I think that's the unfair element of its people like
Borovich needing to answer the question. Everybody that only daily
Cherry Evans going to answer and put to bed. And
you know, the very next mainly player that does a
pres confence, he'll be asked and then the next player,
and it's it just causes the questions and the headlines
that Jake doesn't really want to answer.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
He wants to in footy games.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Does it change I mean everyone's going to have an opinion.
DC playing the team that he's going to next year.
Does it put more pressure on it on DC? Does
it motivating more to Sam Walker?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Think?
Speaker 6 (07:40):
You know what, I want to aim up. I don't
want this guy being the chief. I want to be
the chief. Like is there anything to that or is it?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Do you think they're just going out there not thinking
about next year?
Speaker 7 (07:49):
No, they're professional athletes breaks so both of them, no question,
they're going to want to make a statement the advantage
Daily's god is he's got three hundred and nearly fifty
games of NRL experience and seeing coming back off a
long term injury. But if you look at the Roosters already,
since Sam Walker's returned, he switched to the left hand
side of the field now he has throughout his entire
career primarily been a right sided player. So that just
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shows you that they're already preparing for Daily's arrival as.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Of next year.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
But it's a critical game for both clubs, like they
both need to win to remain in the hunt for
the top eight.
Speaker 9 (08:23):
Would you keep Sam at seven and put DC at six?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
No, I'd put DC at seven.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
I think DC is more controlled, more experience, more composed.
You've seen the game on the weekend. Sam's got so
much firepower and can create opportunities left, right and center.
But you know, he's still got that error in him
and he and you know, I think with game management,
he's still got a lot to learn, you know. Whereas DC,
that's why they're getting him, That's what I would think
they're getting him for is to have that control, composure,
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kicking game and get them to spots on the field
for Sam to weave his magic. You know that I'd
rather that scenario than the other. And I think he'll
learn a lot from DC because that's a part of
his game. I think Sam needs to work on to
get to where it needs to get to it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
That's interesting you say that Raith the appeal of what
the Rooster's see in DC, that controlling element, And if
you ask the Manly Seagulls, they don't think so, which
is why they went and got Jamal Foggery who just
keeps it simple, points the team around the park.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Kick Chase right keeps it simple.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
But Daily has an ability to play a bit of
freelance footy, run down a short side, the teammates may
not know what the next play is.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's very Sam Walker.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I'm intrigued to see how that marriage works when they're
both they both can play freelance footy.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, well that's mailed.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
I didn't know if there's players in his team think
and that he's a bit that way.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Well you've seen Daily and hey, Daily got dropped from
the Queensland origin side for not taking control of that
moment in time.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
But I think the.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Rooster's day of view that the close games that they've
lost this season, the most recent loss to Melbourne last
Thursday r it's a prime example if they've got a
player of the experience and the composure of daily Jerry
Evans with the kicking.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Runs on the board daily.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
I think that.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
He's why he's going there, and they've spoken at length
why and what they want from him in that season.
I'm pretty sure he'll be able to nail that over
a twelve month period now. Jeramony has opened up on
facing his ex halves partner this week after Galvin's messy
exit from the club.
Speaker 11 (10:27):
It's not about it's not about Lucky, it's not about
the dogs. It's about us and that's what we need
to focus on is put him on a good performance
in front of our home fans. That's a story everyone
wants to talk about his Tigers was lucky, but for
us here inside our four wards, it's about us and
how he performed on game.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I think that's if he spoke much. See that's good.
Should I have.
Speaker 11 (10:53):
No, that's not my job. He's not here, he's not
part of my team and like I said, my focus
is me and my boys.
Speaker 10 (11:00):
Over the fans probably go pretty hard at Lockey boot
they pay their money, they're allowed.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
To do it.
Speaker 11 (11:06):
Yeah, I've been on the receiving end. That's the game
of Beliegue. It's a it's a fendriven game, you know,
so you got to expect that. But yeah, good luck
to Lockey.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
I enjoyed that little. I wish is Galvin the best
of luck? Says he's not thinking about him?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
What would he be? Well, maybe he is thoughts on this.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Come boy, let's get the marshmallows out around.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
In all seriousness, you just wish that part of Lockey
Galvin's messy exit was an NDA non disclosure agreement where
none of the West Tigers are allowed to make any
sort of disparaging, honest cutting assessment of his exit. So
we're not getting told the truth.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
They're on with you. I thought Jerome a light the
way you handle interview.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, at no point through that whole Lachland Galvin scandal
scandal saga, did we hear Jerome going Lockey please stay,
please stay.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Come on mate.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
We know what Yeah, I understand, but we can't pretend
that he's not agitated by it.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
We know he would exactly, and that's what makes this
game so mouthful.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah, you know, like and Gordon.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
I spoke about it, and I suppose as ex players
we kind of get it like a betrayal of trust.
And you know, I don't want to overhype it and
dramatize it, but I just if you put ourselves in
his in Jerome and the Tigers shoes and the guy
who walked out, and the circumstances in which he did,
he's got to target. He's got to target on him. Well,
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he walked in, I won't.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
He walked in with his agent, the CEO West Tiger
CEO Shane Richardson's office with a list of grievances.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
About Benji Marshall.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
As a case, you tell me if you were playing
against him on Sunday at Combat Stadium, surely they go
after it.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Benji won't even have to say that something spoke that.
You won't have to with the posts and all that
kind of stuff. The players will not.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
But they suspecting that he was plotting to move to
the Dogs much earlier than he did.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Or I think the West Tigers do privately suspect that, yes,
that Lockey Galvin had been cozying up with Canterbury Banks
down since early this year January February whenever.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
It was Tiger's fans will be what they are going
to be pretty fighte ut Oh yeah, it's going to
be a hard watch though, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
For who Tigers fans? Absolutely, I think it will be.
I think deep down they would like Lachland Galvin at
football club. He's too good at talent you don't want.
You don't want such talented players walking out the door
at your footay club and you look at their current predicament,
they would He makes them a better team.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
He's made the Bulldogs a better team.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
It's torture for the West Tigers members and fans, Dave,
because they've had to walk this path so many times
over the course of the last fifteen years. Whether you
want to go back to Mitch Moses, a gun local
junior who then departs and goes to the Parameter Reels
ends up playing in a Grand Final with them, James
Tedesco goes to the Sydney Roosters wins a couple of premierships.
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Locke is just the latest example. So there's definitely it's
been a kick in the guards for the West Tigers faithful.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
And they've had to go through a hell of a
lot lot.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
They haven't played in the finals since twenty eleven, so
watching the best emerging talent in the game off the
back of hearing that they're a development club that are
going to invest in their local juniors and build the
club around them, that's a saw point.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
And I have to play the game of their lives
this week to beat the dogs the way they are
playing now. Jerome Luai has also spoken on his future
at the club.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Take a look.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Will you please to see that RP like officially resigned
as well?
Speaker 11 (14:41):
Yeah, of course, he's a big part of this club
and there's a big reason of why I'll come here
as also. I'm good to see this the skip locked
in for a few more years. Yeah, comments to play
some more footy with him.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Would he be a big reason why his.
Speaker 11 (14:53):
Day from stand for it for a long time, for
life option, It's not, it's not gone, but I think
when things get hard, people sort of are expecting you
to change. You know, I'm not that type of guy.
I'm here for the long run and I'm here to
change his cover round, Big love.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Big Love. He's there for life.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
It's good news. It's good news.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Can we just can he just come out and announce
it that, go see Riche in his office and say hey,
I'm locked in.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Take the clauses out. He's told us he's there for life.
And until that happens.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I think Tiger's fans will sleep a little bit better
when that happens.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
If he doesn't take it, If he doesn't take the
clauses out, and he executes one of them, that will
be getting replayed and over again.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Do you think you'll stay? I don't know.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
For Tigers fans, what are you guys thinking? I think
he will. It's it is business. This game is business.
Let's ask the Tigers stand.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
Well, they need him to stay, Gordy because they've invested
so much in Jerome and now they've started to build
the rest of the side. They extended Oppy Corus, how
that allowed Talent to Silver, another young gun local Jinior
to go and join the paramotter Reial. So they need
They have pushed their chips so all in on Jerome
that even though he hasn't scored a try, and even
though he hasn't made a line break this year, and
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if you going purely on value for money, he hasn't
really aimed up on the field. But everything you hear
away from the field, in terms of professionalism, training standards,
everything else that he's trying to bring into the Concord club,
that's what they need and that's what they haven't find.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
All part of it that adds value and that's part
of the whole deal. Do you think he's been worth
his money over a million dollars a year for the club?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
No, not at this point in time.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Everything Jimmy said I totally agree with and no, absolutely,
It's true off the field outstanding work ethic, training character
as far as help these younger players onto the training paddock, outstanding.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
But on the field he hasn't delivered to that figure.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
And if he was any other player that, if we
were talking about any other player on the same salary
in the NRL, we would be dissecting them just as much.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Well, here are the stats if you want to dissect.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Them, well, if you will, he's yet to score a try.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Okay, so now, of so much influence on a football team,
and a struggling football team, I would have thought Jerome
would have crossed for a try at this point in time.
Points wise, last, obviously, Trice is down the pecking order,
line breaks twenty ninth in the in the NRL line
breakers six assists and runs obviously down as well.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Look, granted, there's been a little bit of change at fullback.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Jerome Buller has been in and out at Becorus House,
had a couple of issues along the way, and obviously
the Galvin and Latu Fine who change in the Hearts
as well impacts Jerome's game. But again, this is a
highly paid individual who I can understand why he would
take his options up and stay at the Tigers, because
I would argue that if he went onto the open
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market today, he wouldn't be able to get the current
salary that he's on of around one point two million dollars.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Would now that I disagree with that, Dave.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
I think he would with new teams coming in with
personally on that basis New Guinea. He's an elite player,
He's won four Premiershire.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
You just believe, I believe, I.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Promise that if he went to the open market, I
would argue that he would be okay, he would command
top dollars in the current climate. And I mean the
other element. We can't tap dance around with Jerome and
this is why the West Tigers desperately needed to work
with him, is that his arrival has forced Locky Galvin out.
There was clearly some friction in terms of their personalities.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
They didn't get along.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
Lockie hasn't enjoyed whatever he's brought to the club and
that's why he's a big part of the reason why
he sought the messy exit. Then there was also the
beefs with Benji, but Benji's also untested as well, Like
we don't know that Benji's going to be their long term.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Shane Richards and stick by Benji, well, I.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Think he is at this point in time. He has
given Benji absolutely everything that is at.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
The point in time get the crystal ball out.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
I think Benji's a coach clearly for the rest of
this year, and definitely he is the coach for next season.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
They have to.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
They've already invested so much, They've made so many decisions
based around Benji delivering as the right coach for that team.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Again, just asking questions, if they get the wooden spoon
and a zero and two or three it's to start
next year, they keep it.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
I think there'd be a conversation to ask if you
look at what if you look at what Soeraldo has
done in the short time at the Dogs, if you
look at what Jason Ross is slowly building, I think
that they are a better side than what they were
last year. But if they finish on the same amount
of points, I.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Don't think that.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
I actually think Benji will get them and I hope
off the bottom, and then I think he won't start
Zre on three. I'm just throwing scenarios because you know
it hasn't last.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
That's four spoons in a row. If they do get
it and we know how it works, you know you
can put trust in a coach now, but things change
very quickly.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Well, they signed a five year deal. When he initially
signed to do a couple of years apprenticeship under Tim
Sheen's and then take over. That all got thrown out
the window because Tim Sheen's exit was fastened and so
essentially next year will be the fourth year of that deal.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
So if it.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Doesn't work by next season, if it's not working by
midway breath, then we all know how this plays out.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
During Bullard returns against the Dogs, any update on his situation.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
At the moment, the Tigers are confident that it's not
going to be an issue and the Dreams agent won't agitate.
But I've got to say I didn't light the fact
that he's been spotted sitting with the families of Canterbury
Banks down players game but his sides playing the next day?
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Was he going to Cannibury you.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Wanted to support He's made plenty of players go to
what's their mates play?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
My concern isn't the play.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
You don't think any current NRL players go to other
games and what's their mates play?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
It's not the first time he's done it.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
I'm sorry we didn't watch anybody. My concern isn't that
he's going to support his mate. It's the agent, because
that's the agent who put a bomb under the club
through this year and he's done it repeated last decade.
Speaker 8 (21:26):
Because what's happened at the club. If you're sitting here,
you go, is this a good look or bad look?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
From the West Tiger's point of view, the kid wants
to go and support his teammate. It's teammate, it's live
on Fox's better at the ground?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Is the club? Was the club concerned about that?
Speaker 7 (21:46):
When I spoke to Rich about it a couple of
weeks ago. He said, Look, I'm not overly concerned about it.
They believe that they have the power because the way
this current contract with Jurim is structured, they get first save.
They can they can say we will take up the
option for twenty twenty seven at nine hundred thousand. My
concern in response to that is the current agent isn't
the agent who negotiated this deal, so he doesn't make
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a dollar out of that.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
We can't have anymore. That's why.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
The Bulldogs game is an issue.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
What value?
Speaker 6 (22:16):
What value does it add to the agent by taking
him on unless he's going to move him elsewhere. I
get a new contract somewhere and we know where that ends.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
But this is why Richard has to act right.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
He has to. He just has to roll over the clause.
So he stays, yeah, he just has to get it done.
He's just to everything we've said about lou Wise. Importance
for that team during balls of talent, huge talent needs
to be at the footy class is the agent will.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Be knowing this agent, This agent will try and renegotiations,
letting someone.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Else who's runs through the proceedings. Last night with Jack
whiteon and at the judiciary.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Yea, the Bunnies went in super confident that they absolutely
had a case that it wasn't a shoulder charge. I've
got to say, watching the replay repeatedly and in slow
motion and over and over, I did start to think
that that might have been a little bit of wishful thinking.
It got a little bit different gravy when the NRL
prosecutor put a little bit of heat on Jack White
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and about why he was just letting his lawyer answer
all the questions and why he didn't personally want to
be cross interrogated by the NRL. But Judiciary Chairman Jeff Bell,
he took umbrage at that. He really disliked it, and
he actually advised the panel, he said, listen, forget all
of that. That absolutely holds no sway in terms of
what decision you're going to come do. But then we
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figured out that last time, one of the last timestry
was when he'd been charged with biting and he was
cross interrogated by the NRL Council at that time and
he asked him how many games did you play of NRL?
Speaker 5 (23:52):
There might have been a little bit of background.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
That's the normal question made Jimmy get when we write
a story, it's a pet hates, isn't it?
Speaker 6 (23:59):
For of course don't I was going to say something
the spoon possibly looms for the Bunnies.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
What's what's gone wrong?
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Well, well, you know we know they've had heaps of injuries,
but we didn't quite think they get the spoon right.
And I'm not saying they will, but there are a chance.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
The way they fought against Cronella on Saturday night, I
don't think they will get the spoon breath. It's going
to come down to around twenty three they play the Gold
Coast Titans.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Therefore childress in that they still.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Have one buy to come the Bunny, so there's an
additional set of points there. I don't think wayn Bennett's
never had a spoon in his tenure coaching in the
NRL or prior to South Wales Rugby League Premiership.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
He won't want it. He'll come and he'll hunt you
down and try.
Speaker 9 (24:44):
And click no.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
But you know it's going to be a coaching effort.
And we know they've got injuries, but where they were
last year, no South Fain.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
Would have believed that they'd be in the situation.
Speaker 11 (24:57):
But.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
Any injury, you know what that But like when Wayne
comes to the club and comes back and how fit
they were looking at the beginning of the year, you
don't ever envisage that.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Let me say this, we hear so much about those
players loving the fact that they're being able to be
coached by Wayne Bennett, and certainly some of the younger
players just can't believe that they are having this opportunity
to be coached by a super coach. I just wonder
you boys have been in the dressing room over your
career on Now that it's on the line and Wayne's
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never picked up the wooden spoon, do these players start
to talk to each other about, ain't going to sec
We've got to do this for the coach, like we
have to protect that.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Like that's that is an unbelievable statistic.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
If you're not trying to avoid this, each every dressing
room is in the same situation. No one wants Like
I remember when Brisbane got their first and I think
fans went through like three or four hundred spoons on
their training field right to go around middle and so
it's like it's said, it's no player would have didn't
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get one to do.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
I think I did at one point. Likely I've got
a bad memory, but I'm pretty sure I did it.
I'm pretty sure I did.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Wayne Bennett has spoken to the curermals Peter Biddell. Let's
take a look at what he had to say. If
Gord he can just move back a little bit, it's
not going to work for us if we're having crisis
meetings every freaking day and carrying on about where we
are in the competition. I won the Wooden Spoon coaching
in the Brisbane League, so this doesn't wire me in
the least.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
The team is here.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
If we get our best team on the field next year,
we can do something. So it still remains very optimistic.
He said he's had the spoon before. There must have
been early day. Our brothers wouldn't have been that. Can
the current roster that he's got everyone on the field,
can they fight for premiership next year?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
No, no, I need to make and this is my concern.
The unless there's a huge domino effect come this November one,
once with Bears start to get active, there's no there's
no big apples to be picked as far as what
the Bunnies need and I think in the forward pack
and enforcerre upfront.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
And the and the and the.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Player market just won't open up enough next year for
the Bunnies and it might just might have to be
another two seasons away.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
What do you think the miss and hoops on the
same page year, Or.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
To be brutally honest, their recruitment's been diabolical and you
can go all the way back to the decision where
they did let Adam Reynolds go to Dave's point, they
haven't had an enforcer probably since Sam Burgess retired and
then Tom and George were moved on from the club
and the Lewis Dodd experiment unfortunately it just it hasn't worked.
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So they've now their biggest issue over the summer will
be that they've got to move Todd somehow, pay as
minimal as possible and whatever they've got left over and
change out of the seven hundred that he's on, or
they've got to go to the market and they've got
to try and get some front rowers.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Gordy, what do you think they're missing?
Speaker 9 (27:59):
Well, they're players, are one, but they're very light on
in the middle of the ruck.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
Yeah, and then you guys just mentioned it like Fordsman
matches like you look at the Raiders where they with
Tarpani and Josh Papal, I think are won two punches
critical and this day and age.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Jen know is your key playing matchups for around twenty
two things to Ossie broadbander Combank Stadium.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Sunday Jerome Lewie on the left edge for the West
Tigers up against the newly minted Bulldogs halfback Lachland Galvin.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Saturday Night Boys Live and exclusive on Fox Roosters mainly
Sammy Walker against his future teammate Daily Cherry Evans.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Yeah for that suit Saturday.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Just before we go, sad news today with the passing
of Johnny May. He's at the age of seventy eight.
Not good news, guys.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Champion halfback won a premiership with the Seagulls nine and
seventy three, then went to the Roosters under Jack Gibson
and went back to back titles in seventy four seventy four.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Sad day for the Roosters.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Both all right from everyone here at Fox League. Would
like to pass on our condolences to the Maze family
after the tragic passing of Johnny Today
Just six competition rounds remaining, and you better believed that
heat is on in the race for the NRL Finals.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Go in five, keep keep moben.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
So boys, what are we going to do with ten
teams chasing eight spots? About seven point thirty This Super
Saturday Double Box League match to the round ninth place
Seagulls up against the tenth place Roosters. These two have
been going at each other since the nineteen forties, a
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proud history, including two Grand finals, Manly Home in seventy
two on the back of this grade great Pom Malcolm
Really then the Roosters saluting in twenty thirty Trent Robertson's
first year as coach.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Hey, the harder you go on the patch, the better
team will become.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
In fact, Robos only ever missed the finals once eleven
out of twelve, including the past eight series straight es.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Big Daniel Tupo one of the best finishers in the
game in.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Korea best four and he could say the same about
his kid Mark the one g Didnawa Sai because it's
his first season and thirty tries already, all right, Lovatoya,
Little Sam Walker and Lindsay Collins down, isn't here playing
some minutes up against Lehi Hoppawadi two or three Travoievitch's plus.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Daily Cherry Evans.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
That's about as manly as it gets.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
For now anyway, the rugby light gods have spoken.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Ah the Seagulls versus the Roosters, with the finals.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Calling oh's sake, some rugby lea played here.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Don't miss the match of the round seven thirty Super
Saturday limes and exclusive right here on Fox League.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Hello and welcome to turn on three sixty re league
from every angle joining them again the Great Gordon Tallers.
It's been the journals in James Hooper and Dave Riccio
and it's getting to do or die stages with this
Seagles taking on the Roosters Super Saturday, exclusively live in
Fox League seven thirty five pm. Mainly Seagles in ninth position,
Roosters in tenth. It's at the must win stage for
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both teams, right.
Speaker 7 (02:29):
Best time of the year, bra It's September only just
around the corner, and every game genuinely means something.
Speaker 8 (02:35):
Gordy, Yeah, absolutely, I think the Roosters you know there
and maybe the side of that misses this game doesn't
make the finals what do you reckon it's that big.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, it's huge, it is.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
And these you know, this is the game where it's
now that point in time when you you know, when.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You'd look back on the season, you go, we dropped
that game. We should have won that one. Yeah, that's
what teams are doing right now.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Certainly these teams probably because because they're in the fight.
They're in the fight and it's it's time to get
the momentum going.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
And the Ruster has missed an opportunity last week mainly
not so much got hammered by the Bulldogs. And Sebes
is it important for him that they finish strong hoops?
Speaker 7 (03:14):
Definitely, even definitely it is critical breath. It's going to
be performance based. You just keep hearing rumblings out of
the Manly current playing group about some of the shortcomings
that they believe Sebes has as.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
An NRL coach.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
And you know, if you go back for decades at Manly,
the Fulton family and Des Hasler ruled the Seagulls with
an iron fist. They won premierships nine seven, nine to
ninety six, twenty eight, twenty eleven, and there was always
a lot of factionalism, politics, and infighting even when they
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were having success. Fast forward to twenty twenty five, nothing
has changed. There's still a lot of politics going on
underneath the surface on the Northern Beaches and there's a
big sean at the moment from some ex players who
have won premierships with that club to try and get
Anthony Seabolt overthrown and to get Matt Ballen put in.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
On the back of that with Sea Bowlt. Does he
need to make the aide to keep his job or not?
Speaker 7 (04:17):
I think he'll just be a comment in fairness to him, right.
You look at their results this year, the nine wins
and nine losses and they've got a positive differential. I
don't think he necessarily has to make the ape, but
the fact that some of these ex players are leading
that push because they're clearly disgruntled with the way that
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the player talking the current players at the moment, absolutely
no question they are.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I think some of the current players, they're the players
for the most successful part ear of the club too.
They've earnt the right to have their opinion on the
success of the footy club. I must say to you
Sebs's defense, he has had a pretty shocking injury toll
in that in that pack, Josh Ellow and Nathan Brown,
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Persecca Croaker like that he's had some issues.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Look, Jimmy might be getting you might be a little
bit different.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Male.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I still think he's vibes and gets the start next
season at least.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Well, aren't they already preparing for life after Seves or
is that just rumors?
Speaker 7 (05:18):
Well, no, we spoke about it on this show. It
was only a month ago where I think the CEO,
Toney Mestrov said seems is safe for now and supposedly
add two games to guarantee his future.
Speaker 9 (05:30):
Now.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Since then, in fairness, they've won three out of four games,
including beating Melbourne on the road, which is the toughest
road trip in the NRL. So there just continues to
be a lot of noise and a lot of discontent.
And I can see you in the foreseable future. I'm
not sure he's how long term.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
Maybe if it comes down to the senior players, he's gone.
If it comes down to the young kids, he probably stays.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (05:53):
I mean like that's just looking from the outside in.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
And he did say that he doesn't want to coach,
which is strange. Yeah, and everybody's going to die press call.
Speaker 9 (06:03):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
I think from that, Jakobovich still has no indication of
where he's captain.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Is heading as the DCE drama drags on.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Are you aware that it's a bit of a novelty
in terms of Chairs playing against the side that looks
like he's going to next year?
Speaker 10 (06:18):
Well, like it seems that way, but like I haven't
heard that from Chairs or whatever, But that's the way
it seems to be going. I guess people out there,
don't they all they seem to be right. He's chosen
to move on. We can't control that. That's his decision.
He's got a right to do that if he's gone
there before. We want to play well and press it,
you know what I mean. So hopefully that works for
us and puts in a great performance and we go
out and play with.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
The well Jakie, you got to love him.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
He's always positive and bubbly and no matter what, he's
got a smile on his face. And yeah, I mean
it's still going on. There's no official announcement a big
game for DC though.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
If he is playing his new club.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
Yeah, and it's hard and that's the worst thing, right,
So when they don't make a decision. It's hard on
the rest of the group because they keep on getting asked,
We keep on getting all as he should have done
was way back when Round six or whatever come out,
So this is where I'm going and it gets put
to bed.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I think that's the unfair element of its people like
Borovich needing to answer the question. Everybody that only daily
Cherry Evans going to answer and put to bed. And
you know, the very next mainly player that does a
pres confence, he'll be asked and then the next player,
and it's it just causes the questions and the headlines
that Jake doesn't really want to answer.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
He wants to in footy games.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Does it change I mean everyone's going to have an opinion.
DC playing the team that he's going to next year.
Does it put more pressure on it on DC? Does
it motivating more to Sam Walker?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Think?
Speaker 6 (07:40):
You know what, I want to aim up. I don't
want this guy being the chief. I want to be
the chief. Like is there anything to that or is it?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Do you think they're just going out there not thinking
about next year?
Speaker 7 (07:49):
No, they're professional athletes breaks so both of them, no question,
they're going to want to make a statement the advantage
Daily's god is he's got three hundred and nearly fifty
games of NRL experience and seeing coming back off a
long term injury. But if you look at the Roosters already,
since Sam Walker's returned, he switched to the left hand
side of the field now he has throughout his entire
career primarily been a right sided player. So that just
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shows you that they're already preparing for Daily's arrival as.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Of next year.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
But it's a critical game for both clubs, like they
both need to win to remain in the hunt for
the top eight.
Speaker 9 (08:23):
Would you keep Sam at seven and put DC at six?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
No, I'd put DC at seven.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
I think DC is more controlled, more experience, more composed.
You've seen the game on the weekend. Sam's got so
much firepower and can create opportunities left, right and center.
But you know, he's still got that error in him
and he and you know, I think with game management,
he's still got a lot to learn, you know. Whereas DC,
that's why they're getting him, That's what I would think
they're getting him for is to have that control, composure,
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kicking game and get them to spots on the field
for Sam to weave his magic. You know that I'd
rather that scenario than the other. And I think he'll
learn a lot from DC because that's a part of
his game. I think Sam needs to work on to
get to where it needs to get to it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
That's interesting you say that Raith the appeal of what
the Rooster's see in DC, that controlling element, And if
you ask the Manly Seagulls, they don't think so, which
is why they went and got Jamal Foggery who just
keeps it simple, points the team around the park.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Kick Chase right keeps it simple.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
But Daily has an ability to play a bit of
freelance footy, run down a short side, the teammates may
not know what the next play is.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's very Sam Walker.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I'm intrigued to see how that marriage works when they're
both they both can play freelance footy.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, well that's mailed.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
I didn't know if there's players in his team think
and that he's a bit that way.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Well you've seen Daily and hey, Daily got dropped from
the Queensland origin side for not taking control of that
moment in time.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
But I think the.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Rooster's day of view that the close games that they've
lost this season, the most recent loss to Melbourne last
Thursday r it's a prime example if they've got a
player of the experience and the composure of daily Jerry
Evans with the kicking.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Runs on the board daily.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
I think that.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
He's why he's going there, and they've spoken at length
why and what they want from him in that season.
I'm pretty sure he'll be able to nail that over
a twelve month period now. Jeramony has opened up on
facing his ex halves partner this week after Galvin's messy
exit from the club.
Speaker 11 (10:27):
It's not about it's not about Lucky, it's not about
the dogs. It's about us and that's what we need
to focus on is put him on a good performance
in front of our home fans. That's a story everyone
wants to talk about his Tigers was lucky, but for
us here inside our four wards, it's about us and
how he performed on game.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I think that's if he spoke much. See that's good.
Should I have.
Speaker 11 (10:53):
No, that's not my job. He's not here, he's not
part of my team and like I said, my focus
is me and my boys.
Speaker 10 (11:00):
Over the fans probably go pretty hard at Lockey boot
they pay their money, they're allowed.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
To do it.
Speaker 11 (11:06):
Yeah, I've been on the receiving end. That's the game
of Beliegue. It's a it's a fendriven game, you know,
so you got to expect that. But yeah, good luck
to Lockey.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
I enjoyed that little. I wish is Galvin the best
of luck? Says he's not thinking about him?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
What would he be? Well, maybe he is thoughts on this.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Come boy, let's get the marshmallows out around.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
In all seriousness, you just wish that part of Lockey
Galvin's messy exit was an NDA non disclosure agreement where
none of the West Tigers are allowed to make any
sort of disparaging, honest cutting assessment of his exit. So
we're not getting told the truth.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
They're on with you. I thought Jerome a light the
way you handle interview.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, at no point through that whole Lachland Galvin scandal
scandal saga, did we hear Jerome going Lockey please stay,
please stay.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Come on mate.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
We know what Yeah, I understand, but we can't pretend
that he's not agitated by it.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
We know he would exactly, and that's what makes this
game so mouthful.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah, you know, like and Gordon.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
I spoke about it, and I suppose as ex players
we kind of get it like a betrayal of trust.
And you know, I don't want to overhype it and
dramatize it, but I just if you put ourselves in
his in Jerome and the Tigers shoes and the guy
who walked out, and the circumstances in which he did,
he's got to target. He's got to target on him. Well,
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he walked in, I won't.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
He walked in with his agent, the CEO West Tiger
CEO Shane Richardson's office with a list of grievances.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
About Benji Marshall.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
As a case, you tell me if you were playing
against him on Sunday at Combat Stadium, surely they go
after it.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Benji won't even have to say that something spoke that.
You won't have to with the posts and all that
kind of stuff. The players will not.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
But they suspecting that he was plotting to move to
the Dogs much earlier than he did.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Or I think the West Tigers do privately suspect that, yes,
that Lockey Galvin had been cozying up with Canterbury Banks
down since early this year January February whenever.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
It was Tiger's fans will be what they are going
to be pretty fighte ut Oh yeah, it's going to
be a hard watch though, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
For who Tigers fans? Absolutely, I think it will be.
I think deep down they would like Lachland Galvin at
football club. He's too good at talent you don't want.
You don't want such talented players walking out the door
at your footay club and you look at their current predicament,
they would He makes them a better team.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
He's made the Bulldogs a better team.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
It's torture for the West Tigers members and fans, Dave,
because they've had to walk this path so many times
over the course of the last fifteen years. Whether you
want to go back to Mitch Moses, a gun local
junior who then departs and goes to the Parameter Reels
ends up playing in a Grand Final with them, James
Tedesco goes to the Sydney Roosters wins a couple of premierships.
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Locke is just the latest example. So there's definitely it's
been a kick in the guards for the West Tigers faithful.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
And they've had to go through a hell of a
lot lot.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
They haven't played in the finals since twenty eleven, so
watching the best emerging talent in the game off the
back of hearing that they're a development club that are
going to invest in their local juniors and build the
club around them, that's a saw point.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
And I have to play the game of their lives
this week to beat the dogs the way they are
playing now. Jerome Luai has also spoken on his future
at the club.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Take a look.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Will you please to see that RP like officially resigned
as well?
Speaker 11 (14:41):
Yeah, of course, he's a big part of this club
and there's a big reason of why I'll come here
as also. I'm good to see this the skip locked
in for a few more years. Yeah, comments to play
some more footy with him.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Would he be a big reason why his.
Speaker 11 (14:53):
Day from stand for it for a long time, for
life option, It's not, it's not gone, but I think
when things get hard, people sort of are expecting you
to change. You know, I'm not that type of guy.
I'm here for the long run and I'm here to
change his cover round, Big love.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Big Love. He's there for life.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
It's good news. It's good news.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Can we just can he just come out and announce
it that, go see Riche in his office and say hey,
I'm locked in.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Take the clauses out. He's told us he's there for life.
And until that happens.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I think Tiger's fans will sleep a little bit better
when that happens.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
If he doesn't take it, If he doesn't take the
clauses out, and he executes one of them, that will
be getting replayed and over again.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Do you think you'll stay? I don't know.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
For Tigers fans, what are you guys thinking? I think
he will. It's it is business. This game is business.
Let's ask the Tigers stand.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
Well, they need him to stay, Gordy because they've invested
so much in Jerome and now they've started to build
the rest of the side. They extended Oppy Corus, how
that allowed Talent to Silver, another young gun local Jinior
to go and join the paramotter Reial. So they need
They have pushed their chips so all in on Jerome
that even though he hasn't scored a try, and even
though he hasn't made a line break this year, and
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if you going purely on value for money, he hasn't
really aimed up on the field. But everything you hear
away from the field, in terms of professionalism, training standards,
everything else that he's trying to bring into the Concord club,
that's what they need and that's what they haven't find.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
All part of it that adds value and that's part
of the whole deal. Do you think he's been worth
his money over a million dollars a year for the club?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
No, not at this point in time.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Everything Jimmy said I totally agree with and no, absolutely,
It's true off the field outstanding work ethic, training character
as far as help these younger players onto the training paddock, outstanding.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
But on the field he hasn't delivered to that figure.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
And if he was any other player that, if we
were talking about any other player on the same salary
in the NRL, we would be dissecting them just as much.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Well, here are the stats if you want to dissect.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Them, well, if you will, he's yet to score a try.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Okay, so now, of so much influence on a football team,
and a struggling football team, I would have thought Jerome
would have crossed for a try at this point in time.
Points wise, last, obviously, Trice is down the pecking order,
line breaks twenty ninth in the in the NRL line
breakers six assists and runs obviously down as well.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Look, granted, there's been a little bit of change at fullback.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Jerome Buller has been in and out at Becorus House,
had a couple of issues along the way, and obviously
the Galvin and Latu Fine who change in the Hearts
as well impacts Jerome's game. But again, this is a
highly paid individual who I can understand why he would
take his options up and stay at the Tigers, because
I would argue that if he went onto the open
(18:04):
market today, he wouldn't be able to get the current
salary that he's on of around one point two million dollars.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Would now that I disagree with that, Dave.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
I think he would with new teams coming in with
personally on that basis New Guinea. He's an elite player,
He's won four Premiershire.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
You just believe, I believe, I.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Promise that if he went to the open market, I
would argue that he would be okay, he would command
top dollars in the current climate. And I mean the
other element. We can't tap dance around with Jerome and
this is why the West Tigers desperately needed to work
with him, is that his arrival has forced Locky Galvin out.
There was clearly some friction in terms of their personalities.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
They didn't get along.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
Lockie hasn't enjoyed whatever he's brought to the club and
that's why he's a big part of the reason why
he sought the messy exit. Then there was also the
beefs with Benji, but Benji's also untested as well, Like
we don't know that Benji's going to be their long term.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Shane Richards and stick by Benji, well, I.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Think he is at this point in time. He has
given Benji absolutely everything that is at.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
The point in time get the crystal ball out.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
I think Benji's a coach clearly for the rest of
this year, and definitely he is the coach for next season.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
They have to.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
They've already invested so much, They've made so many decisions
based around Benji delivering as the right coach for that team.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Again, just asking questions, if they get the wooden spoon
and a zero and two or three it's to start
next year, they keep it.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
I think there'd be a conversation to ask if you
look at what if you look at what Soeraldo has
done in the short time at the Dogs, if you
look at what Jason Ross is slowly building, I think
that they are a better side than what they were
last year. But if they finish on the same amount
of points, I.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Don't think that.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
I actually think Benji will get them and I hope
off the bottom, and then I think he won't start
Zre on three. I'm just throwing scenarios because you know
it hasn't last.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
That's four spoons in a row. If they do get
it and we know how it works, you know you
can put trust in a coach now, but things change
very quickly.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Well, they signed a five year deal. When he initially
signed to do a couple of years apprenticeship under Tim
Sheen's and then take over. That all got thrown out
the window because Tim Sheen's exit was fastened and so
essentially next year will be the fourth year of that deal.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
So if it.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Doesn't work by next season, if it's not working by
midway breath, then we all know how this plays out.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
During Bullard returns against the Dogs, any update on his situation.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
At the moment, the Tigers are confident that it's not
going to be an issue and the Dreams agent won't agitate.
But I've got to say I didn't light the fact
that he's been spotted sitting with the families of Canterbury
Banks down players game but his sides playing the next day?
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Was he going to Cannibury you.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Wanted to support He's made plenty of players go to
what's their mates play?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
My concern isn't the play.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
You don't think any current NRL players go to other
games and what's their mates play?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
It's not the first time he's done it.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
I'm sorry we didn't watch anybody. My concern isn't that
he's going to support his mate. It's the agent, because
that's the agent who put a bomb under the club
through this year and he's done it repeated last decade.
Speaker 8 (21:26):
Because what's happened at the club. If you're sitting here,
you go, is this a good look or bad look?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
From the West Tiger's point of view, the kid wants
to go and support his teammate. It's teammate, it's live
on Fox's better at the ground?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Is the club? Was the club concerned about that?
Speaker 7 (21:46):
When I spoke to Rich about it a couple of
weeks ago. He said, Look, I'm not overly concerned about it.
They believe that they have the power because the way
this current contract with Jurim is structured, they get first save.
They can they can say we will take up the
option for twenty twenty seven at nine hundred thousand. My
concern in response to that is the current agent isn't
the agent who negotiated this deal, so he doesn't make
(22:09):
a dollar out of that.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
We can't have anymore. That's why.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
The Bulldogs game is an issue.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
What value?
Speaker 6 (22:16):
What value does it add to the agent by taking
him on unless he's going to move him elsewhere. I
get a new contract somewhere and we know where that ends.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
But this is why Richard has to act right.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
He has to. He just has to roll over the clause.
So he stays, yeah, he just has to get it done.
He's just to everything we've said about lou Wise. Importance
for that team during balls of talent, huge talent needs
to be at the footy class is the agent will.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Be knowing this agent, This agent will try and renegotiations,
letting someone.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Else who's runs through the proceedings. Last night with Jack
whiteon and at the judiciary.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Yea, the Bunnies went in super confident that they absolutely
had a case that it wasn't a shoulder charge. I've
got to say, watching the replay repeatedly and in slow
motion and over and over, I did start to think
that that might have been a little bit of wishful thinking.
It got a little bit different gravy when the NRL
prosecutor put a little bit of heat on Jack White
(23:17):
and about why he was just letting his lawyer answer
all the questions and why he didn't personally want to
be cross interrogated by the NRL. But Judiciary Chairman Jeff Bell,
he took umbrage at that. He really disliked it, and
he actually advised the panel, he said, listen, forget all
of that. That absolutely holds no sway in terms of
what decision you're going to come do. But then we
(23:38):
figured out that last time, one of the last timestry
was when he'd been charged with biting and he was
cross interrogated by the NRL Council at that time and
he asked him how many games did you play of NRL?
Speaker 5 (23:52):
There might have been a little bit of background.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
That's the normal question made Jimmy get when we write
a story, it's a pet hates, isn't it?
Speaker 6 (23:59):
For of course don't I was going to say something
the spoon possibly looms for the Bunnies.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
What's what's gone wrong?
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Well, well, you know we know they've had heaps of injuries,
but we didn't quite think they get the spoon right.
And I'm not saying they will, but there are a chance.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
The way they fought against Cronella on Saturday night, I
don't think they will get the spoon breath. It's going
to come down to around twenty three they play the Gold
Coast Titans.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Therefore childress in that they still.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Have one buy to come the Bunny, so there's an
additional set of points there. I don't think wayn Bennett's
never had a spoon in his tenure coaching in the
NRL or prior to South Wales Rugby League Premiership.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
He won't want it. He'll come and he'll hunt you
down and try.
Speaker 9 (24:44):
And click no.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
But you know it's going to be a coaching effort.
And we know they've got injuries, but where they were
last year, no South Fain.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
Would have believed that they'd be in the situation.
Speaker 11 (24:57):
But.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
Any injury, you know what that But like when Wayne
comes to the club and comes back and how fit
they were looking at the beginning of the year, you
don't ever envisage that.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Let me say this, we hear so much about those
players loving the fact that they're being able to be
coached by Wayne Bennett, and certainly some of the younger
players just can't believe that they are having this opportunity
to be coached by a super coach. I just wonder
you boys have been in the dressing room over your
career on Now that it's on the line and Wayne's
(25:29):
never picked up the wooden spoon, do these players start
to talk to each other about, ain't going to sec
We've got to do this for the coach, like we
have to protect that.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Like that's that is an unbelievable statistic.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
If you're not trying to avoid this, each every dressing
room is in the same situation. No one wants Like
I remember when Brisbane got their first and I think
fans went through like three or four hundred spoons on
their training field right to go around middle and so
it's like it's said, it's no player would have didn't
(26:04):
get one to do.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
I think I did at one point. Likely I've got
a bad memory, but I'm pretty sure I did it.
I'm pretty sure I did.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Wayne Bennett has spoken to the curermals Peter Biddell. Let's
take a look at what he had to say. If
Gord he can just move back a little bit, it's
not going to work for us if we're having crisis
meetings every freaking day and carrying on about where we
are in the competition. I won the Wooden Spoon coaching
in the Brisbane League, so this doesn't wire me in
the least.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
The team is here.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
If we get our best team on the field next year,
we can do something. So it still remains very optimistic.
He said he's had the spoon before. There must have
been early day. Our brothers wouldn't have been that. Can
the current roster that he's got everyone on the field,
can they fight for premiership next year?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
No, no, I need to make and this is my concern.
The unless there's a huge domino effect come this November one,
once with Bears start to get active, there's no there's
no big apples to be picked as far as what
the Bunnies need and I think in the forward pack
and enforcerre upfront.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
And the and the and the.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Player market just won't open up enough next year for
the Bunnies and it might just might have to be
another two seasons away.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
What do you think the miss and hoops on the
same page year, Or.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
To be brutally honest, their recruitment's been diabolical and you
can go all the way back to the decision where
they did let Adam Reynolds go to Dave's point, they
haven't had an enforcer probably since Sam Burgess retired and
then Tom and George were moved on from the club
and the Lewis Dodd experiment unfortunately it just it hasn't worked.
(27:43):
So they've now their biggest issue over the summer will
be that they've got to move Todd somehow, pay as
minimal as possible and whatever they've got left over and
change out of the seven hundred that he's on, or
they've got to go to the market and they've got
to try and get some front rowers.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Gordy, what do you think they're missing?
Speaker 9 (27:59):
Well, they're players, are one, but they're very light on
in the middle of the ruck.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
Yeah, and then you guys just mentioned it like Fordsman
matches like you look at the Raiders where they with
Tarpani and Josh Papal, I think are won two punches
critical and this day and age.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Jen know is your key playing matchups for around twenty
two things to Ossie broadbander Combank Stadium.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Sunday Jerome Lewie on the left edge for the West
Tigers up against the newly minted Bulldogs halfback Lachland Galvin.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Saturday Night Boys Live and exclusive on Fox Roosters mainly
Sammy Walker against his future teammate Daily Cherry Evans.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Yeah for that suit Saturday.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Just before we go, sad news today with the passing
of Johnny May. He's at the age of seventy eight.
Not good news, guys.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Champion halfback won a premiership with the Seagulls nine and
seventy three, then went to the Roosters under Jack Gibson
and went back to back titles in seventy four seventy four.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Sad day for the Roosters.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Both all right from everyone here at Fox League. Would
like to pass on our condolences to the Maze family
after the tragic passing of Johnny Today
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