Catch up on all the Rugby League news from NRL 360, Monday 12th of May, with hosts Braith Anasta and Gorden Tallis.
Buzz Rothfield and Brent Read join Braith & Gorden to discuss the news that Mal Meninga has put his hand up to coach the returning Perth Bears. The boys also touch on the Jerome Luai contract saga and Jahrome Hughes' contract extension.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to a three sixty reight League from every angle,
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
For joining me, the Great Gordon Tallis.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
It's been the Journal Australian Buzz Roth tonight and Brent Reid.
It was another cracking round of rugby league on Fox League.
But to start the show, reader, you have some breaking
news coming from the Perth Bears.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Both.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
We're all wondering who's going to coach the Perth Bears.
We've heard Brad Arth, We've heard Sam Berg's now melmurn
Ingers trying his hat in the ring to coach the
Perth Bears. I spoke to Melissavo. He's very interested in
the job. He said, Look, it's a serious consideration for
me if I'm in the mix for that job.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
He wants to coach the Bears.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
He's in the ring, he's on an advisor, he's not
over seeing anything. And what would happen to the AUSTRALI
GI well, I think he would inevitably give that away both.
I think he would if the man you got the
Perth Bears head coaching job, I think Mel would reluctantly
stand down from the Australian job.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
That was the impression I got. So you know, obviously
I think he'd be amazing over there because of his
profile and if that club needs to hit ground running,
they need some profile on their coach and there's not
many bigger profiles in the game than Yeah, Angry, he wouldn't. Yeah,
you have to great assistance around it. But he's always
done that with Australia, hasn't he Gordy, So you know,
I think he'd be amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
For Okay, but you know, male obviously very close the
fl coming into Brisbane, they put like they put a
big name there, you know, and that's and then that's
what you need, like you need a face to sell
the game. If he's got the assistance and melmann Inger's voice.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
The greatest example though both Kevin Sheedy a g w S.
Everyone knew where they were. Now no one knows who
g w S is, but when Cheedy was there, they
were huge, huge, but they made an.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Impression Matthews and Brisbane. Matthews, Brisbane, Sheedy Western Sydney. Okay,
so but really he's behind the April here because Brad
Arthur is expected to get it and Sam sam.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Burgers Sam Birch as well, and truly.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Have you heard any mail and where we're at.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I've heard that they had a meeting actually today the Perth.
I'm not sure he's exactly on the committee that's setting up. Obviously,
Peter Blandy's is one of the guys at a meeting today.
I think they plotted the path forward. It's going to
be a quick decision. It's not going to take a
lot of time. But Brad Arthur's obviously in the box
heat at the moment because he's been the bloke for
a while now and I think he's got his nose
well and trilling in front. But I think they're going
(02:21):
to go through a process.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I need to go through a progress, a process, so
I said at the time when all the reports came.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Out about Brad Arthur. Where's the due diligence?
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Have we made phone cause we run Bennett, Have we
rung Bellamy, we run Cleary?
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Have we tested the market to see who else is there?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
I think, like the Dolphins, we need a high profile
figurehead to launch a project in Perth, a mad afl city,
and I think Mao, providing he had the right team
around him, it would probably be the preferred choice.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
And my understanding is it's the Ennerill who makes this
call on the coach, not the Bears.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Well looks in the process of setting up a committee
and as I wrote on weekend, Joe Hockey, the former treasurer,
will be on that board. Three Perth businessman will be
on the board. But the setup phase is very much
involved Sandy Abdoh and Peter Land. He's just a line
of it. It's quite urgent that they do appointed coach
if they're coming in in twenty seven.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Burgess is interesting. Arthur as a good coach.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
I just think Mao has that presence and you surround
him with the right coaching staff, win sponsorship and track players.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Oh, Mel can definitely break but you know what, it
can be a great bit of a left field idea.
But you know, Mel's obviously in age now. I wouldn't
imagine if it'd be the coach the next five years.
I'd like to see actually Mail working with Sam and
Sam would come through and eventually as a succession plan
because think what Sam does. He opens rugby union up
to you because and the other thing is this direct
(03:51):
flight from Perth to London, right, So Sam knowes superle
better than anyone, and I reckonink you do a lot
of players from Super League.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Do you think Sam would be okay being assisting.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I think Sam would be happy to work. He wants
a head coach, he does. I reckon he would work
with that.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
And this is exactly what the Dolphins did with Bill.
They said, you come and coach under Wayne at your
job in two years and it's a good way.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Wouldn't he want the house job in two years? Sam?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, it depends is that in charge of South in
two years?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I don't think I don't need to play second fildom.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well, they want to extend Wayne at South. I've spoken
about it.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
A good young coach, but it's not Sam. Willie Pteris
is going gangbusters in the UK.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
He's got whole Kingston Ravers to Wembley Final, now they're
leading the competition. He could come over and work with
Mail for two years, then take it over. I think
having an untried coach but a very sharp guy under
Mail would be a terrific way to laud.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Do you not think if Sam was given an option
where Mel would be there for two three years and
then he would take over. Sam possibly I know he
wants a head job, head coaching job.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
That's a bit really wasn't coming out wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I know he wants the big right, so you know,
but in saying that, you're right, buzz like You've got
to do your apprenticeship. He's doing a good job over
there in the Super League.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
But you have to ask him.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I mean, those two the star power of Sam Burgess
Melmaning are working in tandem.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Light.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
That's that's Temple.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Watched his space round ten, had it all on Fox League,
from every comebacks to match winning moments, an all Tiger towel,
and you wouldn't believe.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Here is Coggert, comes to Sharp, who was their best
opson last week, and then Lucas to the outside. Here
best Jumaju rhumps of the groot, He draws and passes
Fletcher Sharp.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Here is Campbell and the.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Back there for the group cut out ball. They got
the prims it three on two and overlap. Can't Brera
Rubbers prise.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
It there to keep planes it down.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Last tweety four points to twenty. Well, here we go
kicking on the laughs, I land to catch it, then
gets an all.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
Ricky fancies ever Reynolds at the back touch from Copper.
That's a class try. Fourteen points to deal Bill playing
the havilly. He tries to Tunney's way on it, Oh
straight past Stack. Did the pass on want a chart?
Tax will scar into the back then Renalds leaving up
on the inside, but no one wants it on his own.
Speaker 9 (06:25):
Saint sational tackle Mitchell Britchall from forty eight. But two
point Latroll the do has booted a nod Stack say
see me and now la Troll with a bit of trickery.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
He's patrol. Mitchell's done.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
He just does what Latle can't do that would make
him such a special plant.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
Welcome to a very special afternoon here in Cambra.
Speaker 9 (06:52):
Back then are our skates and glass Kate scarfs on
the bar. First, I'll pub al in the pot.
Speaker 8 (07:00):
Seventy kings over right, there's twenty care of prey kneeling.
Tracy keeps it going. Crime for the line, and that's
just what the doctor on and crime is broth and
care of our r P and the docs are parking
on the Tracy greg Ans crime.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
The lightful past here as Karen is over one.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
Of the great comebacks we have ever seen.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
That Brace You've been a lot of transcription. Uh in
the emotion of it all are Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's like I'm just so proud of them.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
Here is paper Housen who grubbs in behind nobody there,
exposing forward a problem flooding as had holes and coach
comes back in field.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Guess who's there again?
Speaker 9 (07:43):
Head House He has a hand.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Rink, monster in a huge space, comes.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
Back to Garlic.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
He' scores for Melbourne to take them beyond sixty.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
We've got to be better than that.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Everyone's disappointed, embarrassed, probably a few other words you could use.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But it's good.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
The rugby league just continues to deliver and get better
and better every week. But it was the Tigers going
down sixty four points to Neil And it was Martin
Lewie who come up with this on social media, the
father of Jerome. I couldn't believe this this morning.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I was shocked. Boy, what have you heard about this guy?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Well he took it down pretty soon, and I'm told
Jerome was quite annoyed with his dad. You know, he
loves his dad obviously, but for putting something like that up,
that's going to stir the pot after a sixty point loss.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
You know, was the wrong thing to do.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
And he's still a long way off a clause decision
at the end of next year.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Correct, right now, I think it's the clause the end
of this year. It's the end next year, November one.
He can go to market though, Yeah, that's the concern.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
So I think it was fool This should be Dad
to do it after an afternoon was a joke. Yeah,
I'm sure, Jake, I thought he's being sarcastic but stupid.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It's just a joke. He's not a flight If you're.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Told us fan, you're pretty nervous about it, though. I mean,
if you lose sixty four and the father of your
star signing puts that up.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
When all the galls and stuff was going on, you
were saying that, I think it was your day. David
was pushing, was pushing that he should get rid of
the co And you know what, do you agree with David?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
And I yes, he should. I mean genuinely no, hold on, no, no,
let me finish. It's genuinely your You hate clauses, so
don't you start. He's generally committed to the club. He's
genuinely committed to the club, and he's in it for
the long haul. Take the option out. It's not that hard.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
No, it's not hard at all.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
But you saw the way Mitchell Moses handled it. After
Brown left, the club went said we want to get
rid of clauses. So his manager went to them and said,
we'll get rid of the clauses. What's at Worth probably
got an extra one hundred k topp up. So I'm
sure if Shane Richardson sat down with his manager and said, look,
we want to get rid of this cause we want stability.
(10:04):
Galvin's going before we give you another hundred a year,
will you drop it?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Were dancing around a little bit. Is he any chance
to get rid of them? Have you heard anything out
of the Tiger's camp? Well, they just going to leave
the causes in.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Well, they're they're very confident that he has committed to
the club. Brother. They spoke to him again today about it,
and he looks committed.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
No one's wing that, and even his performances have suggested
that he's had a great year and yesterday it was yesterday, right,
But you know they're probably after that. That doesn't help
the mean it's his father putting that up, and you
know that doesn't help the situation. So I think everyone
would be put at ease in Tigers Town if he
got rid of it.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
If he'd kept it up.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
It's a problem the fact Jerome's had a chatter and
said get that down right, and he was always going
to get.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Pulled up in the first place. There was a piss tape.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
It's in the Tiger's best interest and the best interests
of their fans if they negotiate those clauses out of
the deal. It's just what I said, that's what they
should be working towards, and I'm sure Richo is working
towards doing that.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So you both agree, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
On Melbourne Storm, you've been talking to Melbourne about Jerome
Hughes possibly signing an extension.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I believe they're not going to November one. Have you
heard anything else?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well, I think they're very optimistic. Deals not far away
breath and they put a deal to him, an extension,
extension deal long term Luke at of extension, and my
gut feeling is this is closes and get done reasonably
soon and Jerome, who's won't get anywhere near November one,
and he'll be there for at least I would imagine
another two to three years, your next year, top of.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Next year, the young kids at Melbourne underneath it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Well, Janah Peasant who breath manages, was the obvious one,
and I think they'd love to keep Jana. My impression
is they'd love to keep Jonah at the club, even
though Jerome's going to stay just Jana.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
We haven't had time to talk about it because he
had a clause in his contracts on a long term
deal not long ago. But if Jerome stayed and re signed,
then he's off contract. But well, indications from Melbourne as
they want to keep him there. I know when we
were negotiating, we spoke about alone for a year, which
could be a possibility, you know, maybe in twenty seven
or whenever that may be. But all reports coming out
(12:15):
of Melbourne's they still want him there.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
What I feel interesting about that break is that if
Jerome does this long term deal, which we expect, and
Jonahs stays long term, does that have implications for another
one of your clients. Monster, he's off concert the end
of twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
It may he's got a few more years Kemon, So
that's a long way away.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
So but at the moment, no time will tell me that,
yeah's peasant. He's only twenty one or twenty one?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Would he be happy to sit there break because some
young kids do get a tew feet.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And they put a lot of faith and trusting him.
He's had a few injuries of late and they've supported him,
so he loves the club.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
He doesn't want to go anywhere. I can't see him.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Can they keep them all?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Well?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I mean the issue is not just the guys you've
spoken about there, but you've got and he hasn't playing
the way he is he's off and then you've got
coach Warbrick. But you've also got Harry Grant at the
end of next year. So there's at least of players
that they now they need to try and keep, so
they're going to have to lose a couple is.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Not going anywhere, Bro. They've had really informal talks with
his management, but I don't think my understanding is Harry
has no interest in going anywhere. I don't want to
speak for Harry, but he's captain of that football club
and he's his committee as well.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
I think a huge signing or pending signing is a massive,
massive story because if he went to open market. He
could become the player, the face of Perth on one
point six million dollars and if they've locked him up
for around a million, it is a massive coup of
that club.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
They've always been really confident in keeping him break. I
mean I spoke to Trip to Matt Trip two weeks
ago about him, and even at that time, you just
had a sense that something was going on because he said,
I think I was staying. I said why, he said,
called a gut instinct, but he just knew. You just
got a sense that they knew he wanted to stay,
They wanted to keep him, and they get a deal
done because it's so important to you.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Wonder the rumors about six months ago that he wanted
to go back to Quest.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I don't know. Well, now you look at that in hindsight,
I'm not sure where I'm not sure how that came about,
whether that was his agent putting pressure on them to
try and get a better deal out of them. But
my understanding is he never he never wanted to go.
And the other other crucial part of this break is
Bella's only contracted for one week. He hasn't taken up
the deal for next year. Yet, but he will. That's
(14:35):
when his contract runs out.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
It's Johnny Farnel. He never going to but that's the.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
End of his deal and at the moment he's shown
no intention to extend that. So they've got to find
a new coach. You want to give that new coach
good players and if he's got your own. Now it's
a good start.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Good point.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Now let's get to the next point. Buzz, what's happened
with Madge? Story and today Dally telegraph. We're very concerned
about you.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I read the art.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
It was like this, this very confrontational phone call, and
I'm thinking, poor poor By.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You would have been cheering, You would have been very recorded.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
I I'd play it to it's a private conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
That's when you told the whole world.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
I said to Madge, I'll tell you what happened.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
The Broncos are off to their worst start after ten
rounds in four seasons. So every year Kevie Walters was there,
they were doing better after ten rounds of what they
are with mad So they last four of their last
five games. I spoke to people around it and was
told they went on a harbor cruise in a five
day turnaround. They fly to Sydney three days early per game,
(15:40):
they line up down at the wharf.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
They jump on this Anthony Bell luxury cruisy.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Stressful Buzz, Well, was there a treadmill on the boat?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well?
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Do you think it was a good idea?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I don't see the problem with it with the boat.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Did you have any problem with their performance against the
South Sydney side walks Jack White and now Alex.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Johnson cab bark any.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Well, what I'm saying is, mate, if that was his
preparation to treat them to a day or a cultural avariance,
it's all bonding.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Well the bonding back.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Buzz does have a point. Last year they were Hollywood.
They had their heads in the cloud, They're wearing all
the fancy stuff, and then two days before a game.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
It's not a great look. If they were winning a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Look, Braith, you've gotta have a lot of but some
kids don't handle that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Look, the conversation, the conversation with Madge, wasn't it just
the conversation Madge wasn't just about That's all I was
goot to say.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, Bota side right, we can disagree on that.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
The Bota side. You think there's a lot of issues there.
And what else was the conversation?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
I was spoken about player unrest and reports that you
know the players are feeling flat.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Is their player unrest there?
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Yeah, I think there is. I've got no doubts there is.
I think they feel flat.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
I think there's people around there who think they're being overtrained.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
And I said to you when we were in Las
Vegas this year.
Speaker 9 (16:57):
It did.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
And I joked about the Army camp and the players
every day every week.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Well, I don't understand.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
I knew you wouldn't understand.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I've heard the same things to do with this player
under restaurant. But two weeks ago, wasn't they smashed the Bulldogs?
Where was the Titans?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Then?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
To me, this is not a physical tie, this is
a mental that club why they Well, it's the same
issue kere that Why.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Were they no hold on? keV was going better for
these three years there but ten rounds like this.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
These players, this playing group were mentally week. Last year,
the mentally Week had a.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Lot of injuries. This is not the same.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Well he's got.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I'm going to stick up with Kevy, that's not I'm
back in the players. He hasn't had injuries yet.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Kevin Gordy playing group last year were mentally I thought
they were mentally fragile, and I think they are again
this year. I don't magic just changed that. He may
have tried, that's what he got brought in to do.
I understand that. I agree with you he did, but
it's obviously not done. He's obviously not done it.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
So then there's two ways to go. Marge McGuire changes
his ways, then he's not Madge McGuire.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Can I tell you something about this Harbord Cruz. I
think it got back to Souse I think got back
to Wayne Bennett. He's obviously got Broncos connection. Anthony Bell
was on the board, yes, and Anthony Bell is a
mad Souse man.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
I reckon Whain and said.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
To his players, they're expecting such a comfort game this
way he can You don't think that.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Happened one time? To think about this. I think there's
a hangover there from Brisbane right.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
The reason Mage went there is because there's a soft
underbelly egos, and then he died to tough ring them
up and build some resilience within the joint. Now he's
finding this job a lot harder than where he thought
it would be, and he's got a lot more work
than what he thought he had to do. You look
at that game on the weekend and he acknowledges that.
(18:57):
I mean, I bumped into him actually the day after
the game. Knowledge is that they're taking shortcuts, they're trying
to score tries on play one. They're not building pressure
or they're not they're not sort of controlling games and
doing the tough stuff for what teams need to do
to win.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Now, you know this is a big job.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
What Brisbane come last year for eighth You were just
comparing their first ten rounds.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
But that's all I can It's a long way to go.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
But all I'm saying in your backing, Madge, and I
don't mind your backing, Madge, and the jury will.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Be I'm just telling it. I'm just saying that that's
a big job up there.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
But your you seem to be doubting the fact that
he might have upset a few players up there, And
he did upset players at the West Tigers.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Craig Bellamy and Ricky Stewart, upsets players in the off season, but.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
There's only one of them. What do you mean so
there's only one Craig Bellamy. I can't come out and
coach like people. No, no, no, and then people will
didn't he going to court Ricky Stewart? Yeah, but then yeah, I'll.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Keep naming teams that again, well there training hard that
are vomiting in the off season that he's only.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I played und Ricky Stewart, Ricky, well you do.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
You're sitting here, you're doubting my story it personally, I'm
not taking a person at all. Breaks you're saying when
I tell you the players are off him, right, it
is exactly the same. He was sacked but made his
last two jobs for being off with players and running
around the West Tigers dressing him with the base what
I'm saying, and at house where he worried.
Speaker 9 (20:29):
What is this?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
And it buzz Listen, it's about Madge flying the balance there, right,
because I'm not I'm just giving you my point of view.
Image's a lot of work to do and they've got
to be better and he knows that. But it's fine
in the balance for match. That's what he's got to do.
He's got to he's got to train him hard and
teaching some hard lessons. But at the same time, you
can't lose the group. If you lose the group, you
lose the team you're.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Going and that I can have you but both.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
I rang him yesterday with the intention of allowing him
to take the column, for allowing him to tell his
story about.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
How it's going on.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
He didn't want to do that, and I can tell
you the way he spoke and look I gave it
back to him, gave me an impression and an understanding
of why he has relationship issues.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
We play it did enough because you didn't. He didn't
want my point of view. And I said to him
about his training techniques.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I said, if you looked at the NFL and their
pre season guidelines, if.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
You looked at the EPL, oh you wouldn't. And I
can't quote his conversation because I guarantee.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
NFL you've been pretty critical of him from day one, right,
so do you expect to bring him up and him buzzy?
Speaker 6 (21:43):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Brother?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I just I wanted to be fair and I repeat
what I said that as a representative coach with the
Kiwis and with New South Wales, he's absolutely outstanding because
there are eight week programs right and you've got the
elite players. You don't have to skill them up. You
don't have to train him hard. Right, There's there's no
(22:07):
question he's now standing rep coach. But I had my
doubts after watching Towers from Tiger Town and the f
bomb tie raids and the way players went off at
South as well Weather, as much as the Broncos needed
a hard edge, whether Madge was the life man to
deliver in too far.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
It's ten games. It's ten games in the season, ten
games the players.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Kevin was gone last year after team players. It was
gone by the players.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Apparently they're off heavy as well. This is a bigger
problem than the coach.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
This club doesn't want to.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Have not won a common ninety, the biggest club in
the game.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
This is a problem.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Who's that club for two decades?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
But last year it was a coach's fault. So whose
fault is it there?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Well, it's cause it's easy to clean out the coaches
to clean out a dressing right, Well, it always has been. Well, Look,
I just think there's club's got cultural issues at the
moment and manages in there and he's trying to fix it.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Justice Kevin, very good job.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Well, your teen games in the season, ten games and
the preseason precind don't count, please.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Don't preseason champions. Look, there is early.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
It's a bit early to go, just comparing it to
only Wayne Banner can have his speech, only Ricky can
have his speech, only Craig Bellamy can have his sprayler.
I've been coached enough. There's certain people talk a certain
way and you get their respect. There's some coaches, brath
and I'm pretty sure you've been coached by when you
walk in and they try to have that speech and
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it just doesn't work for some reason.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
And look, I'll say now far too early to write
off the broadcast season. They've got some George and then
Guy Day have had a major positive late this afternoon
that Ezra Man has been cleared of a high tackle
charge playing for.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
And he will play five eight this weekend against the Dragon.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Does he comes straight back in breath?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, yeah, I think he's done it, He's done his time.
He played last week. I think he comes in.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
What do you I was just a bit worried about
you with that argument.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Everything's good, Buzzy.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
I'm here spitting out facts and you're saying to be no.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
More cruises alright, I've imagine make sure Cruis cruises.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Latrell stunts Broncos and the n ROL with match winning
forty nine meter field goal.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
It was a thing of beauty.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
It was the cleanest and most pure field goal strike
that I've ever witnessed, and it was effortless. Not as
good as that it is Latrell Mitchell back.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
I think there's no question whatsoever. It's back.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
And as impressive, or nearly as impressive is that field goal?
Was that cover tackle Undie Mariner. It was textbook classic
rugby league try saber. Yeah, he's back and I think
he should play original.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I've said that before.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Man, his box office is the best, is the biggest
star we've got in this game, and when he's playing,
when he's at his best, you can't take your eyes
off of I think.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
He played himself into an origin Jurny.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I mean, if you're Queensland and I am in Queensland,
don't pick him please.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Because what do you reckon before the game? It's like
do you put him in? Don't you?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
He's been inconsistent, he hasn't said, he hasn't really delivered
this year, and then he goes whoosh, gut and he's
straight in like he couldn't leave him out after that game.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
But he missed the first fall five weeks, so he
was he had that bad hammy and since he came back,
he was out of position for three weeks.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
He was five eight, he was sander well. But to
do that goal with that rain, that slipper.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
It made it look so easy.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Crazy.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Did you have a problem with that? The little fox
playing just playing possum at the end.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
It's okay, it's okay. I know a lot of people
have even shot at him over that, but it was
asmanship by.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
The Whistle Boys, by the whistle Buzzy. Yeah, are you
two stick around? That was a good first segment.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Bo you all right?
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Yeah, no, absolutely sure.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Friendships okay, stick around journals and this Wednesday, Wednesday, Sam
Goodman headlines a huge card Live in Sydney and
Speaker 2 (26:10):
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Welcome to a three sixty reight League from every angle,
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
For joining me, the Great Gordon Tallis.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
It's been the Journal Australian Buzz Roth tonight and Brent Reid.
It was another cracking round of rugby league on Fox League.
But to start the show, reader, you have some breaking
news coming from the Perth Bears.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Both.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
We're all wondering who's going to coach the Perth Bears.
We've heard Brad Arth, We've heard Sam Berg's now melmurn
Ingers trying his hat in the ring to coach the
Perth Bears. I spoke to Melissavo. He's very interested in
the job. He said, Look, it's a serious consideration for
me if I'm in the mix for that job.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
He wants to coach the Bears.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
He's in the ring, he's on an advisor, he's not
over seeing anything. And what would happen to the AUSTRALI
GI well, I think he would inevitably give that away both.
I think he would if the man you got the
Perth Bears head coaching job, I think Mel would reluctantly
stand down from the Australian job.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
That was the impression I got. So you know, obviously
I think he'd be amazing over there because of his
profile and if that club needs to hit ground running,
they need some profile on their coach and there's not
many bigger profiles in the game than Yeah, Angry, he wouldn't. Yeah,
you have to great assistance around it. But he's always
done that with Australia, hasn't he Gordy, So you know,
I think he'd be amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
For Okay, but you know, male obviously very close the
fl coming into Brisbane, they put like they put a
big name there, you know, and that's and then that's
what you need, like you need a face to sell
the game. If he's got the assistance and melmann Inger's voice.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
The greatest example though both Kevin Sheedy a g w S.
Everyone knew where they were. Now no one knows who
g w S is, but when Cheedy was there, they
were huge, huge, but they made an.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Impression Matthews and Brisbane. Matthews, Brisbane, Sheedy Western Sydney. Okay,
so but really he's behind the April here because Brad
Arthur is expected to get it and Sam sam.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Burgers Sam Birch as well, and truly.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Have you heard any mail and where we're at.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I've heard that they had a meeting actually today the Perth.
I'm not sure he's exactly on the committee that's setting up. Obviously,
Peter Blandy's is one of the guys at a meeting today.
I think they plotted the path forward. It's going to
be a quick decision. It's not going to take a
lot of time. But Brad Arthur's obviously in the box
heat at the moment because he's been the bloke for
a while now and I think he's got his nose
well and trilling in front. But I think they're going
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to go through a process.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I need to go through a progress, a process, so
I said at the time when all the reports came.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Out about Brad Arthur. Where's the due diligence?
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Have we made phone cause we run Bennett, Have we
rung Bellamy, we run Cleary?
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Have we tested the market to see who else is there?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
I think, like the Dolphins, we need a high profile
figurehead to launch a project in Perth, a mad afl city,
and I think Mao, providing he had the right team
around him, it would probably be the preferred choice.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
And my understanding is it's the Ennerill who makes this
call on the coach, not the Bears.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Well looks in the process of setting up a committee
and as I wrote on weekend, Joe Hockey, the former treasurer,
will be on that board. Three Perth businessman will be
on the board. But the setup phase is very much
involved Sandy Abdoh and Peter Land. He's just a line
of it. It's quite urgent that they do appointed coach
if they're coming in in twenty seven.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Burgess is interesting. Arthur as a good coach.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
I just think Mao has that presence and you surround
him with the right coaching staff, win sponsorship and track players.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Oh, Mel can definitely break but you know what, it
can be a great bit of a left field idea.
But you know, Mel's obviously in age now. I wouldn't
imagine if it'd be the coach the next five years.
I'd like to see actually Mail working with Sam and
Sam would come through and eventually as a succession plan
because think what Sam does. He opens rugby union up
to you because and the other thing is this direct
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flight from Perth to London, right, So Sam knowes superle
better than anyone, and I reckonink you do a lot
of players from Super League.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Do you think Sam would be okay being assisting.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I think Sam would be happy to work. He wants
a head coach, he does. I reckon he would work
with that.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
And this is exactly what the Dolphins did with Bill.
They said, you come and coach under Wayne at your
job in two years and it's a good way.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Wouldn't he want the house job in two years? Sam?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, it depends is that in charge of South in
two years?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I don't think I don't need to play second fildom.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well, they want to extend Wayne at South. I've spoken
about it.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
A good young coach, but it's not Sam. Willie Pteris
is going gangbusters in the UK.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
He's got whole Kingston Ravers to Wembley Final, now they're
leading the competition. He could come over and work with
Mail for two years, then take it over. I think
having an untried coach but a very sharp guy under
Mail would be a terrific way to laud.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Do you not think if Sam was given an option
where Mel would be there for two three years and
then he would take over. Sam possibly I know he
wants a head job, head coaching job.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
That's a bit really wasn't coming out wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I know he wants the big right, so you know,
but in saying that, you're right, buzz like You've got
to do your apprenticeship. He's doing a good job over
there in the Super League.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
But you have to ask him.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I mean, those two the star power of Sam Burgess
Melmaning are working in tandem.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Light.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
That's that's Temple.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Watched his space round ten, had it all on Fox League,
from every comebacks to match winning moments, an all Tiger towel,
and you wouldn't believe.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Here is Coggert, comes to Sharp, who was their best
opson last week, and then Lucas to the outside. Here
best Jumaju rhumps of the groot, He draws and passes
Fletcher Sharp.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Here is Campbell and the.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Back there for the group cut out ball. They got
the prims it three on two and overlap. Can't Brera
Rubbers prise.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
It there to keep planes it down.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Last tweety four points to twenty. Well, here we go
kicking on the laughs, I land to catch it, then
gets an all.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
Ricky fancies ever Reynolds at the back touch from Copper.
That's a class try. Fourteen points to deal Bill playing
the havilly. He tries to Tunney's way on it, Oh
straight past Stack. Did the pass on want a chart?
Tax will scar into the back then Renalds leaving up
on the inside, but no one wants it on his own.
Speaker 9 (06:25):
Saint sational tackle Mitchell Britchall from forty eight. But two
point Latroll the do has booted a nod Stack say
see me and now la Troll with a bit of trickery.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
He's patrol. Mitchell's done.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
He just does what Latle can't do that would make
him such a special plant.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
Welcome to a very special afternoon here in Cambra.
Speaker 9 (06:52):
Back then are our skates and glass Kate scarfs on
the bar. First, I'll pub al in the pot.
Speaker 8 (07:00):
Seventy kings over right, there's twenty care of prey kneeling.
Tracy keeps it going. Crime for the line, and that's
just what the doctor on and crime is broth and
care of our r P and the docs are parking
on the Tracy greg Ans crime.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
The lightful past here as Karen is over one.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
Of the great comebacks we have ever seen.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
That Brace You've been a lot of transcription. Uh in
the emotion of it all are Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's like I'm just so proud of them.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
Here is paper Housen who grubbs in behind nobody there,
exposing forward a problem flooding as had holes and coach
comes back in field.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Guess who's there again?
Speaker 9 (07:43):
Head House He has a hand.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Rink, monster in a huge space, comes.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
Back to Garlic.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
He' scores for Melbourne to take them beyond sixty.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
We've got to be better than that.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Everyone's disappointed, embarrassed, probably a few other words you could use.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But it's good.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
The rugby league just continues to deliver and get better
and better every week. But it was the Tigers going
down sixty four points to Neil And it was Martin
Lewie who come up with this on social media, the
father of Jerome. I couldn't believe this this morning.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I was shocked. Boy, what have you heard about this guy?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Well he took it down pretty soon, and I'm told
Jerome was quite annoyed with his dad. You know, he
loves his dad obviously, but for putting something like that up,
that's going to stir the pot after a sixty point loss.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
You know, was the wrong thing to do.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
And he's still a long way off a clause decision
at the end of next year.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Correct, right now, I think it's the clause the end
of this year. It's the end next year, November one.
He can go to market though, Yeah, that's the concern.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
So I think it was fool This should be Dad
to do it after an afternoon was a joke. Yeah,
I'm sure, Jake, I thought he's being sarcastic but stupid.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It's just a joke. He's not a flight If you're.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Told us fan, you're pretty nervous about it, though. I mean,
if you lose sixty four and the father of your
star signing puts that up.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
When all the galls and stuff was going on, you
were saying that, I think it was your day. David
was pushing, was pushing that he should get rid of
the co And you know what, do you agree with David?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
And I yes, he should. I mean genuinely no, hold on, no, no,
let me finish. It's genuinely your You hate clauses, so
don't you start. He's generally committed to the club. He's
genuinely committed to the club, and he's in it for
the long haul. Take the option out. It's not that hard.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
No, it's not hard at all.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
But you saw the way Mitchell Moses handled it. After
Brown left, the club went said we want to get
rid of clauses. So his manager went to them and said,
we'll get rid of the clauses. What's at Worth probably
got an extra one hundred k topp up. So I'm
sure if Shane Richardson sat down with his manager and said, look,
we want to get rid of this cause we want stability.
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Galvin's going before we give you another hundred a year,
will you drop it?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Were dancing around a little bit. Is he any chance
to get rid of them? Have you heard anything out
of the Tiger's camp? Well, they just going to leave
the causes in.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Well, they're they're very confident that he has committed to
the club. Brother. They spoke to him again today about it,
and he looks committed.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
No one's wing that, and even his performances have suggested
that he's had a great year and yesterday it was yesterday, right,
But you know they're probably after that. That doesn't help
the mean it's his father putting that up, and you
know that doesn't help the situation. So I think everyone
would be put at ease in Tigers Town if he
got rid of it.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
If he'd kept it up.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
It's a problem the fact Jerome's had a chatter and
said get that down right, and he was always going
to get.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Pulled up in the first place. There was a piss tape.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
It's in the Tiger's best interest and the best interests
of their fans if they negotiate those clauses out of
the deal. It's just what I said, that's what they
should be working towards, and I'm sure Richo is working
towards doing that.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So you both agree, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
On Melbourne Storm, you've been talking to Melbourne about Jerome
Hughes possibly signing an extension.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I believe they're not going to November one. Have you
heard anything else?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well, I think they're very optimistic. Deals not far away
breath and they put a deal to him, an extension,
extension deal long term Luke at of extension, and my
gut feeling is this is closes and get done reasonably
soon and Jerome, who's won't get anywhere near November one,
and he'll be there for at least I would imagine
another two to three years, your next year, top of.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Next year, the young kids at Melbourne underneath it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Well, Janah Peasant who breath manages, was the obvious one,
and I think they'd love to keep Jana. My impression
is they'd love to keep Jonah at the club, even
though Jerome's going to stay just Jana.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
We haven't had time to talk about it because he
had a clause in his contracts on a long term
deal not long ago. But if Jerome stayed and re signed,
then he's off contract. But well, indications from Melbourne as
they want to keep him there. I know when we
were negotiating, we spoke about alone for a year, which
could be a possibility, you know, maybe in twenty seven
or whenever that may be. But all reports coming out
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of Melbourne's they still want him there.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
What I feel interesting about that break is that if
Jerome does this long term deal, which we expect, and
Jonahs stays long term, does that have implications for another
one of your clients. Monster, he's off concert the end
of twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
It may he's got a few more years Kemon, So
that's a long way away.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
So but at the moment, no time will tell me that,
yeah's peasant. He's only twenty one or twenty one?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Would he be happy to sit there break because some
young kids do get a tew feet.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And they put a lot of faith and trusting him.
He's had a few injuries of late and they've supported him,
so he loves the club.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
He doesn't want to go anywhere. I can't see him.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Can they keep them all?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Well?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I mean the issue is not just the guys you've
spoken about there, but you've got and he hasn't playing
the way he is he's off and then you've got
coach Warbrick. But you've also got Harry Grant at the
end of next year. So there's at least of players
that they now they need to try and keep, so
they're going to have to lose a couple is.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Not going anywhere, Bro. They've had really informal talks with
his management, but I don't think my understanding is Harry
has no interest in going anywhere. I don't want to
speak for Harry, but he's captain of that football club
and he's his committee as well.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
I think a huge signing or pending signing is a massive,
massive story because if he went to open market. He
could become the player, the face of Perth on one
point six million dollars and if they've locked him up
for around a million, it is a massive coup of
that club.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
They've always been really confident in keeping him break. I
mean I spoke to Trip to Matt Trip two weeks
ago about him, and even at that time, you just
had a sense that something was going on because he said,
I think I was staying. I said why, he said,
called a gut instinct, but he just knew. You just
got a sense that they knew he wanted to stay,
They wanted to keep him, and they get a deal
done because it's so important to you.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Wonder the rumors about six months ago that he wanted
to go back to Quest.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I don't know. Well, now you look at that in hindsight,
I'm not sure where I'm not sure how that came about,
whether that was his agent putting pressure on them to
try and get a better deal out of them. But
my understanding is he never he never wanted to go.
And the other other crucial part of this break is
Bella's only contracted for one week. He hasn't taken up
the deal for next year. Yet, but he will. That's
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when his contract runs out.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
It's Johnny Farnel. He never going to but that's the.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
End of his deal and at the moment he's shown
no intention to extend that. So they've got to find
a new coach. You want to give that new coach
good players and if he's got your own. Now it's
a good start.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Good point.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Now let's get to the next point. Buzz, what's happened
with Madge? Story and today Dally telegraph. We're very concerned
about you.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I read the art.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
It was like this, this very confrontational phone call, and
I'm thinking, poor poor By.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You would have been cheering, You would have been very recorded.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
I I'd play it to it's a private conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
That's when you told the whole world.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
I said to Madge, I'll tell you what happened.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
The Broncos are off to their worst start after ten
rounds in four seasons. So every year Kevie Walters was there,
they were doing better after ten rounds of what they
are with mad So they last four of their last
five games. I spoke to people around it and was
told they went on a harbor cruise in a five
day turnaround. They fly to Sydney three days early per game,
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they line up down at the wharf.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
They jump on this Anthony Bell luxury cruisy.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Stressful Buzz, Well, was there a treadmill on the boat?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well?
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Do you think it was a good idea?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I don't see the problem with it with the boat.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Did you have any problem with their performance against the
South Sydney side walks Jack White and now Alex.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Johnson cab bark any.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Well, what I'm saying is, mate, if that was his
preparation to treat them to a day or a cultural avariance,
it's all bonding.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Well the bonding back.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Buzz does have a point. Last year they were Hollywood.
They had their heads in the cloud, They're wearing all
the fancy stuff, and then two days before a game.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
It's not a great look. If they were winning a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Look, Braith, you've gotta have a lot of but some
kids don't handle that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Look, the conversation, the conversation with Madge, wasn't it just
the conversation Madge wasn't just about That's all I was
goot to say.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, Bota side right, we can disagree on that.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
The Bota side. You think there's a lot of issues there.
And what else was the conversation?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
I was spoken about player unrest and reports that you
know the players are feeling flat.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Is their player unrest there?
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Yeah, I think there is. I've got no doubts there is.
I think they feel flat.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
I think there's people around there who think they're being overtrained.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
And I said to you when we were in Las
Vegas this year.
Speaker 9 (16:57):
It did.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
And I joked about the Army camp and the players
every day every week.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Well, I don't understand.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
I knew you wouldn't understand.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I've heard the same things to do with this player
under restaurant. But two weeks ago, wasn't they smashed the Bulldogs?
Where was the Titans?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Then?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
To me, this is not a physical tie, this is
a mental that club why they Well, it's the same
issue kere that Why.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Were they no hold on? keV was going better for
these three years there but ten rounds like this.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
These players, this playing group were mentally week. Last year,
the mentally Week had a.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Lot of injuries. This is not the same.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Well he's got.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I'm going to stick up with Kevy, that's not I'm
back in the players. He hasn't had injuries yet.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Kevin Gordy playing group last year were mentally I thought
they were mentally fragile, and I think they are again
this year. I don't magic just changed that. He may
have tried, that's what he got brought in to do.
I understand that. I agree with you he did, but
it's obviously not done. He's obviously not done it.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
So then there's two ways to go. Marge McGuire changes
his ways, then he's not Madge McGuire.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Can I tell you something about this Harbord Cruz. I
think it got back to Souse I think got back
to Wayne Bennett. He's obviously got Broncos connection. Anthony Bell
was on the board, yes, and Anthony Bell is a
mad Souse man.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
I reckon Whain and said.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
To his players, they're expecting such a comfort game this
way he can You don't think that.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Happened one time? To think about this. I think there's
a hangover there from Brisbane right.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
The reason Mage went there is because there's a soft
underbelly egos, and then he died to tough ring them
up and build some resilience within the joint. Now he's
finding this job a lot harder than where he thought
it would be, and he's got a lot more work
than what he thought he had to do. You look
at that game on the weekend and he acknowledges that.
(18:57):
I mean, I bumped into him actually the day after
the game. Knowledge is that they're taking shortcuts, they're trying
to score tries on play one. They're not building pressure
or they're not they're not sort of controlling games and
doing the tough stuff for what teams need to do
to win.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Now, you know this is a big job.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
What Brisbane come last year for eighth You were just
comparing their first ten rounds.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
But that's all I can It's a long way to go.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
But all I'm saying in your backing, Madge, and I
don't mind your backing, Madge, and the jury will.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Be I'm just telling it. I'm just saying that that's
a big job up there.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
But your you seem to be doubting the fact that
he might have upset a few players up there, And
he did upset players at the West Tigers.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Craig Bellamy and Ricky Stewart, upsets players in the off season, but.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
There's only one of them. What do you mean so
there's only one Craig Bellamy. I can't come out and
coach like people. No, no, no, and then people will
didn't he going to court Ricky Stewart? Yeah, but then yeah, I'll.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Keep naming teams that again, well there training hard that
are vomiting in the off season that he's only.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I played und Ricky Stewart, Ricky, well you do.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
You're sitting here, you're doubting my story it personally, I'm
not taking a person at all. Breaks you're saying when
I tell you the players are off him, right, it
is exactly the same. He was sacked but made his
last two jobs for being off with players and running
around the West Tigers dressing him with the base what
I'm saying, and at house where he worried.
Speaker 9 (20:29):
What is this?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
And it buzz Listen, it's about Madge flying the balance there, right,
because I'm not I'm just giving you my point of view.
Image's a lot of work to do and they've got
to be better and he knows that. But it's fine
in the balance for match. That's what he's got to do.
He's got to he's got to train him hard and
teaching some hard lessons. But at the same time, you
can't lose the group. If you lose the group, you
lose the team you're.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Going and that I can have you but both.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
I rang him yesterday with the intention of allowing him
to take the column, for allowing him to tell his
story about.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
How it's going on.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
He didn't want to do that, and I can tell
you the way he spoke and look I gave it
back to him, gave me an impression and an understanding
of why he has relationship issues.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
We play it did enough because you didn't. He didn't
want my point of view. And I said to him
about his training techniques.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I said, if you looked at the NFL and their
pre season guidelines, if.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
You looked at the EPL, oh you wouldn't. And I
can't quote his conversation because I guarantee.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
NFL you've been pretty critical of him from day one, right,
so do you expect to bring him up and him buzzy?
Speaker 6 (21:43):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Brother?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I just I wanted to be fair and I repeat
what I said that as a representative coach with the
Kiwis and with New South Wales, he's absolutely outstanding because
there are eight week programs right and you've got the
elite players. You don't have to skill them up. You
don't have to train him hard. Right, There's there's no
(22:07):
question he's now standing rep coach. But I had my
doubts after watching Towers from Tiger Town and the f
bomb tie raids and the way players went off at
South as well Weather, as much as the Broncos needed
a hard edge, whether Madge was the life man to
deliver in too far.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
It's ten games. It's ten games in the season, ten
games the players.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Kevin was gone last year after team players. It was
gone by the players.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Apparently they're off heavy as well. This is a bigger
problem than the coach.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
This club doesn't want to.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Have not won a common ninety, the biggest club in
the game.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
This is a problem.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Who's that club for two decades?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
But last year it was a coach's fault. So whose
fault is it there?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Well, it's cause it's easy to clean out the coaches
to clean out a dressing right, Well, it always has been. Well, Look,
I just think there's club's got cultural issues at the
moment and manages in there and he's trying to fix it.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Justice Kevin, very good job.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Well, your teen games in the season, ten games and
the preseason precind don't count, please.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Don't preseason champions. Look, there is early.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
It's a bit early to go, just comparing it to
only Wayne Banner can have his speech, only Ricky can
have his speech, only Craig Bellamy can have his sprayler.
I've been coached enough. There's certain people talk a certain
way and you get their respect. There's some coaches, brath
and I'm pretty sure you've been coached by when you
walk in and they try to have that speech and
(23:38):
it just doesn't work for some reason.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
And look, I'll say now far too early to write
off the broadcast season. They've got some George and then
Guy Day have had a major positive late this afternoon
that Ezra Man has been cleared of a high tackle
charge playing for.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
And he will play five eight this weekend against the Dragon.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Does he comes straight back in breath?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, yeah, I think he's done it, He's done his time.
He played last week. I think he comes in.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
What do you I was just a bit worried about
you with that argument.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Everything's good, Buzzy.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
I'm here spitting out facts and you're saying to be no.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
More cruises alright, I've imagine make sure Cruis cruises.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Latrell stunts Broncos and the n ROL with match winning
forty nine meter field goal.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
It was a thing of beauty.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
It was the cleanest and most pure field goal strike
that I've ever witnessed, and it was effortless. Not as
good as that it is Latrell Mitchell back.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
I think there's no question whatsoever. It's back.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
And as impressive, or nearly as impressive is that field goal?
Was that cover tackle Undie Mariner. It was textbook classic
rugby league try saber. Yeah, he's back and I think
he should play original.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I've said that before.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Man, his box office is the best, is the biggest
star we've got in this game, and when he's playing,
when he's at his best, you can't take your eyes
off of I think.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
He played himself into an origin Jurny.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I mean, if you're Queensland and I am in Queensland,
don't pick him please.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Because what do you reckon before the game? It's like
do you put him in? Don't you?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
He's been inconsistent, he hasn't said, he hasn't really delivered
this year, and then he goes whoosh, gut and he's
straight in like he couldn't leave him out after that game.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
But he missed the first fall five weeks, so he
was he had that bad hammy and since he came back,
he was out of position for three weeks.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
He was five eight, he was sander well. But to
do that goal with that rain, that slipper.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
It made it look so easy.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Crazy.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Did you have a problem with that? The little fox
playing just playing possum at the end.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
It's okay, it's okay. I know a lot of people
have even shot at him over that, but it was
asmanship by.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
The Whistle Boys, by the whistle Buzzy. Yeah, are you
two stick around? That was a good first segment.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Bo you all right?
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Yeah, no, absolutely sure.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Friendships okay, stick around journals and this Wednesday, Wednesday, Sam
Goodman headlines a huge card Live in Sydney and
Speaker 2 (26:10):
You can order it now at main event dot com
dot Au.
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