April 29, 2025 • 18 mins
Catch up on all the Rugby League news from NRL 360, Tuesday 29th of April, with hosts Braith Anasta and Gorden Tallis.
Paul Crawley and Andrew Webster join Braith & Gorden as pressure builds on the NRL surrounding the "crackdown" ahead of Magic Round, the pressure on Des Hasler and the Gold Coast Titans.
Tallis and Crawley also debate how much of the "crackdown" is to blame for the players poor tackle technique.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I was on two n RL three sixty rugby league
from every angle joining me in the great Gordon Tallis
bring the journals in, Paul Crawley and Andrew Webster. Interesting
round of footy on the weekend, that you enjoy the
weekend's footing.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I love sim bins.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I just think there should be more of them. Don't
need to wrap the games at all. Now, what's up?
You know the footy has been great.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
We just need to get the officials out of the way.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
Just be great if you could talk about the footy.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Hopefully after magic round we can now. The sin bin
saga continues tonight, with Titans coach Des Has hitting out
at the NRL denying his team he is the most
penalized in the competition.
Speaker 6 (00:46):
Take a look the.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Most penalized team in competition for high tackles.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 7 (00:51):
Yeah, it's interesting stat and it doesn't mean it's correct
and consultation it might appeal at that.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
I can assure you it's not correct.
Speaker 7 (01:04):
So for Andrew to say that there has been a
correct down.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Us is wrong.
Speaker 7 (01:08):
And it seems like all of a sudden that you
know we're going to move the gold posts, which is
not the not a clear response. Why are we moving
the gold posts all of a sudden, I don't think
coming out and changing all this now moving the goal post,
I think it's not being honest with the integrity of
the game.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Are you after four losses and a couple of them?
Speaker 7 (01:31):
No, No, we take full will take full responsibility to
four losses. So don't say that I never said that.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You said that he's off at the NRL.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
The NL are moving the goal posts.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Ah, And I don't.
Speaker 8 (01:51):
Think they're moving the goal post. I think they're clamping down.
And last night when we saw the stats, I must
have been reading the wrong ones because the Titans were leading,
the comp went we shod here well.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Is the most head Eige tackles. He's saying they haven't, But.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Is he alluding to other teams get away with them?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
That's the point.
Speaker 9 (02:09):
That's the point when when you when you put those
figures up last night, you can read them two ways. Yeah,
the Titans are on top, but as we all know,
we're seeing some that are being panalized that shouldn't be
penalties and some that are getting this from other teams.
That changes the landscape, and there's no question in the world,
no question in the world. In the last month, we've
seen a change, Gordon. You can't deny the goalposts have
(02:32):
changed in the last month.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
It was the line that was sort of trotted out
by Andrew Abdo on his charm offensive yesterday, like he
spoke to everybody, and I remember talking to Andrew earlier
in the day and he made the point that, you know,
head high tackles are significantly more at this point of
the season than last year.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
But you're right.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
The counter argument to that is is that they're they're
calling more and more head high tackles when they actually aren't.
So I'm less concerned about them like calling it tackles
as the inconsistency of when they're calling them from game
to game, from.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
From official to official.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
That's I think that's.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
The thing that we're all worried about heading into Magic Ground,
that we're just going to have the repeat of what
we saw in twenty one, and that's the last thing
the game needs.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
We're actually sitting arguing over the force. Well, it wasn't hard,
but isn't it if you hit him in the head,
you hit him in the head.
Speaker 9 (03:18):
It's the fairness of the Gordy you showed last night
the knee in the head, right, there's no excuse in
the world that the bunker missed that. Everyone that watches
that game sees that happen, and the injustice and the
unfairness of it. And even though it was the same
team that got lost to Bloke A tackle later, is
that you look at the second that the tackler of Montoya,
(03:38):
it doesn't warrant a sinbin if Tupereneurs doesn't.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
And there's no way in the world they miss that.
You can't miss that the Burden one in the same
game that the.
Speaker 9 (03:49):
Burden one when they called up the game and showed
that and put him on report, yet they didn't send
him to the sinbin. How the hell, How the hell
is that not synbin if we're seeing all these other
ones that are synbind In the South Sydney game, there
was a crusher tackle, you know, that's head contact. Memozulas
was on the ground. I think it was trently Erro
did the tackle. He's sitting there, he's holding his neck.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
No penalty.
Speaker 9 (04:12):
It's the fairness of it all. There's no fairness at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Fair to be fair, ABDA come on last night admitted
they got it wrong and said there will be immediate change.
So as much as yeah, I agree with you Cross,
you know they've been getting it wrong. You know, I
do question the no crackdown by the NRL, and I
think Desi's right there, there's been a crack like that
because the players haven't changed the way that they play
(04:36):
that much for the amount of penalties that have been given,
synbins and reports and you name it. So they're definitely
refereeing differently too. And I mentioned that to Andrew last night.
It's not just the bunker, you know that they are
giving more head EIE penalties that shouldn't be and there's
definitely more synbins that shouldn't be.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Full credit to Abdoor to be able to say that,
you know, to admit that they got it wrong. You
know what I'm interested in is what he said in
all his interviews yesterday, is how much reach the bunker
is going to have during Magic Round. Is it going
to go back and pull up, you know, indiscretions from
earlier in the in the set. That's going to be
the interesting thing because he seems to think that that threshold,
(05:13):
as he was calling it, needs to be needs to
be lifted, and that's going to be interesting to see
in Magic Round, just where that thresholds at.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
The referees are always going to push the envelope. I
think we're missing the point. If they changed the technique
of all the players and they get hit in the
head less, there's going to be less Papa.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
The last couple of nights off because you think the
players are going to responsible now.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
I think tackling techniques really pull that.
Speaker 8 (05:35):
Bolly comes in and there's Hazeltin runs, He's got his
rib cage open, and he stands up and hits him
in there.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
That's the one offense. Gordon.
Speaker 9 (05:44):
You can't pin this back on the coaches and the
players and tackling technique.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
I'll tell you what. Okay, So where they learn? A
year ago?
Speaker 9 (05:50):
A year ago, hang on a second last June I
wrote a story Bennett.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
There was so much frustration in the game.
Speaker 9 (05:58):
Bennett couldn't bite his tongue anymore, bring me up, and
he wanted to do a story about it because he
was so fed up and everyone in the game was
so fed up. He came up with some really great
ideas right at the end of the season. They sat
weighing down, they said, Ivan Cleary and Ricky Stewart, and they.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Came up with a plan. Well guess what.
Speaker 9 (06:13):
They didn't bring the plan into play, and we're a
year down the track and it hasn't got better, mate,
it has got worse. They came up with a plan
that perhaps could have fixed the sinbin problem that we
have at the moment while still punishing high tackles.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
They ignored it.
Speaker 9 (06:30):
Andrew Abdo said last night, we might look at it
at the end of the year. They looked at the
end of last year, and they trialed it in a trial.
They spoke about putting regular people in the bunker, right
for regular people that could be there every week to
try and get some consistency.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Never happened. Never happened, Never happened.
Speaker 9 (06:48):
To Mate, reference a game because this could have been
sorted out, or at least we would be on the
right track.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
But to me and to many many.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
Fans out there, mate, backwards, I used to used to
get penalized if you gave way a penalty. It was taboo.
Now I reckon your coach to give away penalties. That's
why six to go to coming. They don't care how
many penalties.
Speaker 9 (07:09):
Believe is coached injured. I would back there, but I
would suggest mate on the try line. Yeah, their coach
to give away penalties and slow down the game and
that sort of stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
They probably don't care. But I wouldn't say I like
the only I would like.
Speaker 8 (07:25):
I would like every week to challenge every coach to
come down the park and run.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
And I hit him in the.
Speaker 9 (07:29):
Head the only delivery active.
Speaker 8 (07:35):
And I hit him at I said, man, I'm sorry,
I just slipped you know, MAT's up and just see
whether they like it.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
And I don't think that they would.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
I didn't like it when I'm playing and now you
see them all getting hit in the head and they
just run, bend your back I.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Speak to I don't A lot of coaches were on
the point your I think it's all a lot of
factors to be to the game, the surface, the interpret
But but I agree with you, Gordy, because I've been
writing this for a few years, because you talk to
coaches about it. Did they think that you know, the
two players, the two defenders coming in that up high.
That's a big part of it. So let me ask
(08:08):
you this, Then, what do you say to those, and
the great Mic Cronan has been a propeller this for
a long time. Two in the tackle, I don't mind it.
But I don't know why we don't even try that.
Why we don't even.
Speaker 8 (08:19):
Consider that because the athletes got two seconds because the
athletes got too good, got too big, too big and too.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
That would take it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
That would take a while to for players to get
you still, So that's not an off season thing.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
That that's that's a whole.
Speaker 9 (08:36):
Fifteen the interchange and everything else comes having an idea.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
It's good enough for me.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Krona haven't appear on the show because there's one on
one right.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
And then in my era, the player the balls got
so quick, so I had to be two in a tackle,
and now they play the balls didn't slow down, so
now there's three just to slow it down.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
So you don't have as many rocking friends either. And
the leg tackle wasn't getting rewarded.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Get rid of the sixth to go, which is so
subjective anyway, the tackle.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It's not just fans that are blowing up though the
immoral Joey he was feelthy, wasn't he?
Speaker 6 (09:11):
And that it was well reported and on TV and
all that.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, he put the headset down here.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I wrote that in The Australian yesterday he with twenty
look at that look at that head Jesus.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Yeah, and I reckon, I'm bigger than current and he
hits him in the head.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So that was a send off, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I thought?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
But this, this story in terms of Joey, like I mean,
it just shows you know, people give Joey, have different
opinions on Joe Jo love the fact that he's so
unfielded and it's such a fan of the game that
he could not call the last twenty three minutes of
that match for Channel nine. He just put his put
his his microphone down after the bole a well, when
it got to Golden Point they trying to engage, he said,
(09:53):
I hope there's no head highs and then said nothing
for the rest of the game. To me, that just
sums up the frustration, particularly and former players about what's
going on in the game.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
It's not just former players though, it's the fans too.
You look, you look at any online story that that
talks about the crackdown all the sin bins at the moment,
and the majority of fans feel so frustrated Gordy and
this is what the game can't ignore because people love
rugby league. Well you know what your friends will say,
oh wait, watch the footing next week. They're always back
on watching the footy because they love rugby league.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
But they still care.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
That was the dumbest one out of the weekend.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
You know, it just sort of put an exclamation point
on the weekend.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Really, that's a creature of habit. Yeah, because that's what.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
It's not even a penalty though, is it.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's if it's a penalty, it's only just why does
he hit him in the head.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
To wrap up the ball?
Speaker 9 (10:45):
And you're right, it's look he got him high and
he has got his ribs cage there that he But
the fact.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
That it's not a sin being Gordy, it has never
been a sin.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Bin get ten of those a game. As I said,
just go down bunk, just get someone. Just keep on
it in your hand.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Do it now.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
It's annoying.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
You're pretty outspoken about Latrell Mitchell. It's him been in
now one week suspension. You don't believe he should have been.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
I'll tell you what I don't believe.
Speaker 9 (11:16):
I don't believe it's fair that Latrell gets one week
for that and he gets sin binned. And Isaiah Yo
hits Tom Travoyevitch with a swinging arm and again I'll
call him both Rugby League accidents in a way.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
But Yo hits him and gets nothing, Mane.
Speaker 9 (11:32):
This is it all goes back to the fairness, and
in fairness to Latrell. Litrell's a bloke that is so
polarizing in our game, and so many people love him
and others don't like him.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
But when that tackle happened, there's an immediate blow up.
Oh he should have been sent off. But when you
actually look at the tackle and Faye Logo.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
Comes sliding in different circumstances and Latrell hits him right,
Falgo actually knocks himself out when.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
When his head hits the ground.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
This was careless at all.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Yeah, it's careless.
Speaker 9 (11:59):
But what I'm saying is it's the unfairness because then
you get Yo that gets understand that, and that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
With the game at the moment.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Thought for Latrell's I'd take the week and run.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
If that's how I saw it, I saw it differently
because I reckon we've seen accidents in the game forever,
and you'll never get it out of the game unless
you's unless you put on os tag or you put
on touch footy, because it's a collision sport and unfortunately
it's going to happen.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
He's sliding on the wet ground there and he and
he's and he's engaged.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Latrell and he was going to pass the ball.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
So quick on what he's going to do and the
defenders moving forward when standing there in the defensive.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I'm happy if he stays on the field and let
the matter review handle it, you know what I mean.
I just think they're so trigger happy with with sending
boats to the bin. But then again, the bunker and
the referees are under instructions from those above them.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
The direction is going to come. What about magic around
this weekend? What's a pass mark?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Again?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Andrew Abdo was on sitting right there where you are,
Cruls and he said, it's not going to be the same.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
They're going to pull back on the bunker. They're not
going to interrupt the game.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
The referees probably won't be as harsh with their judgment
of high tackles.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
What's a past mark?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Common sense?
Speaker 9 (13:17):
Common sense is a pass mark? Like you can't put
a number on what's right and what's wrong. But we
speak about it all the time. The majority of people
will sit down and they will agree what constitutes as
send off, what constitutes has sin bin, and what's a
penalty and what you let go.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
We just want to see common sense.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Okay, what are we expecting then, more more so than
a pass mark? Do we think that it's going to
be a lot different this weekend from the conversation we
had with the NLCO.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I think it's going to be significantly different.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Oh, I think so too, But I wouldn't even want
to try and forecast what it's going to look like.
Like I mean, honestly, it's so all over the place
at the moment, like I've got no I actually am
worried about how it's.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
Going to go.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
We're not talking about magic round. If we're talking about
Sinbin's on Monday morning, that's a failure for.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
The Can we live with if the referee misses it?
Speaker 9 (14:12):
Yes, for mate, that's what the mat We're always going
to debate the game, mate, We're always going to debate
the game. But they missed the Burton one the other day, right,
I wasn't upset that they missed the Burton one. I
was upset when they saw the Burton one they didn't
Sinbinni all right.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Circling back to des at the top of the show,
we're going back there, and the reporter, which he caught
my eye, am i ear said are you deflecting from
the last four losses?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yes, Daz and Wayne Bennett are the masters of using
the press to distract attention from their team. I've got
no doubt that that's what des has done. I also
don't understand why he's done his press conference this morning
or earlier today and not after dropping David Tafita. I
think that's prettyordinary from Deaz. I know Desert's mind games,
(15:02):
and I love deserts so much anyone.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
He's done the press conference before, it looks.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Like to me, that looks ridicuous.
Speaker 9 (15:08):
He could have been defending his reputation with the fact
that Titans are at the top of the penalty things
and he doesn't think that they're all fair and he
doesn't think they're chemist right.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
You don't think Cruelsey should have spoken after dropping over
for feeder from the team and explaining it to the
fans and given the way that they're playing.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I just think that's I think that's ordinary and I
see that.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
As a different issue though, there's no question in the
world you can't make excuses for the Titans performances this year,
but you can also defend your club.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
But he can do it all with the one press
conference later in the day gime. I know he does,
but I mean the NRL, I think that's rubbish. I
don't think the NRL should should let coaches, you know,
dictate when they talk in the week, do it before
the game.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
Well, there was a time, there was a time to
where they used to make every player talk every every
three weeks.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Was that they all run their you know what I had.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
About it, because later in the week they're going to
shove up two players. They're going to have to air
the questions a bit. Why David Ffieda isn't in the
team and not the coach Surgury.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
So that's something about Dave that no one knows. Sure
they had a show.
Speaker 8 (16:07):
Sorry, he had an ankle reconstruction and he's struggled with
pain in his ankle.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Has pressure? Is he under pressure?
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Has to be under is his job on the line?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Do you think they'd be considering other options or has
he got some time here?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
What do we think? How long has he got? The
way he's going at the moment is unders well.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
They're definitely underachieving, aren't they. And they're and they're throwing
away good leads, which shows that they should be more
competitive over eighty minutes?
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Is he under pressure? Who knows?
Speaker 9 (16:38):
Like, if you don't win football games, you're under pressure.
That's how it works.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Surely they've got to be you guys, tell me they've
got to be doing better than the Tamos.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
Yeah, I thought I thought would be doing better, especially
this year. This is does his second year. One thing
I know about the organization that they're very loyal. You
haven't heard anything out there? No, I haven't heard anything,
but I don't go there either. The last game I
was there was a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Probably not going to tell you anyway, because you sitting here,
Can you please tell them?
Speaker 6 (17:04):
I need to break a story?
Speaker 7 (17:05):
All right?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Let's take a look at the ins and out's around
nine thanks to sports Bett, and here they are a
couple of big ones this week is the teams are
on out today white and at five eight Dodd on
the extended bench, Ily has dropped for the Dragons, King
Tommy are named at half or five eight, whichever one.
David Fafeeda demoted to the reserves list for the Titans,
Garner a place in McClean at center for the Panthers,
(17:29):
and Reynolds chosen for the Broncos despite that shoult Or injury.
Now we'll get to the Dragons, but quickly, let's talk
about Lewis Dodd and him not getting a run this week.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
What's our take on this.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
It's a massive story, really, isn't it.
Speaker 9 (17:44):
Like you can't you can't hide from the fact he's
on seven hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
He's chilling up seven hundred thousand dollars a year. They're
short of halves.
Speaker 9 (17:54):
They haven't got Cody, they haven't got Humphreys at the moment,
and he's moved Jack Whiton.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Why won't they pick Obviously he's not playing well enough,
well enough, He hasn't played that much well.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
He's obviously way in New South Wales.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Doesn't think that he's first grade ready or he's good
enough to play.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
He's picked Jack White and at five eight this week
he's moved him from centers.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
They're already short Latrell. It suggests to me.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That he's no Cody, no Latrell.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Yeah, well, it is what it is, isn't it. They
haven't picked him. You can't make excuses for it.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
I remember we talked about this in Vegas on the
on the show when we were there for the start
of the season.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
It was always going to be a bubbling issue. It
just seems to be
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I was on two n RL three sixty rugby league
from every angle joining me in the great Gordon Tallis
bring the journals in, Paul Crawley and Andrew Webster. Interesting
round of footy on the weekend, that you enjoy the
weekend's footing.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I love sim bins.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I just think there should be more of them. Don't
need to wrap the games at all. Now, what's up?
You know the footy has been great.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
We just need to get the officials out of the way.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
Just be great if you could talk about the footy.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Hopefully after magic round we can now. The sin bin
saga continues tonight, with Titans coach Des Has hitting out
at the NRL denying his team he is the most
penalized in the competition.
Speaker 6 (00:46):
Take a look the.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Most penalized team in competition for high tackles.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 7 (00:51):
Yeah, it's interesting stat and it doesn't mean it's correct
and consultation it might appeal at that.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
I can assure you it's not correct.
Speaker 7 (01:04):
So for Andrew to say that there has been a
correct down.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Us is wrong.
Speaker 7 (01:08):
And it seems like all of a sudden that you
know we're going to move the gold posts, which is
not the not a clear response. Why are we moving
the gold posts all of a sudden, I don't think
coming out and changing all this now moving the goal post,
I think it's not being honest with the integrity of
the game.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Are you after four losses and a couple of them?
Speaker 7 (01:31):
No, No, we take full will take full responsibility to
four losses. So don't say that I never said that.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You said that he's off at the NRL.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
The NL are moving the goal posts.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Ah, And I don't.
Speaker 8 (01:51):
Think they're moving the goal post. I think they're clamping down.
And last night when we saw the stats, I must
have been reading the wrong ones because the Titans were leading,
the comp went we shod here well.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Is the most head Eige tackles. He's saying they haven't, But.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Is he alluding to other teams get away with them?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
That's the point.
Speaker 9 (02:09):
That's the point when when you when you put those
figures up last night, you can read them two ways. Yeah,
the Titans are on top, but as we all know,
we're seeing some that are being panalized that shouldn't be
penalties and some that are getting this from other teams.
That changes the landscape, and there's no question in the world,
no question in the world. In the last month, we've
seen a change, Gordon. You can't deny the goalposts have
(02:32):
changed in the last month.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
It was the line that was sort of trotted out
by Andrew Abdo on his charm offensive yesterday, like he
spoke to everybody, and I remember talking to Andrew earlier
in the day and he made the point that, you know,
head high tackles are significantly more at this point of
the season than last year.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
But you're right.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
The counter argument to that is is that they're they're
calling more and more head high tackles when they actually aren't.
So I'm less concerned about them like calling it tackles
as the inconsistency of when they're calling them from game
to game, from.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
From official to official.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
That's I think that's.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
The thing that we're all worried about heading into Magic Ground,
that we're just going to have the repeat of what
we saw in twenty one, and that's the last thing
the game needs.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
We're actually sitting arguing over the force. Well, it wasn't hard,
but isn't it if you hit him in the head,
you hit him in the head.
Speaker 9 (03:18):
It's the fairness of the Gordy you showed last night
the knee in the head, right, there's no excuse in
the world that the bunker missed that. Everyone that watches
that game sees that happen, and the injustice and the
unfairness of it. And even though it was the same
team that got lost to Bloke A tackle later, is
that you look at the second that the tackler of Montoya,
(03:38):
it doesn't warrant a sinbin if Tupereneurs doesn't.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
And there's no way in the world they miss that.
You can't miss that the Burden one in the same
game that the.
Speaker 9 (03:49):
Burden one when they called up the game and showed
that and put him on report, yet they didn't send
him to the sinbin. How the hell, How the hell
is that not synbin if we're seeing all these other
ones that are synbind In the South Sydney game, there
was a crusher tackle, you know, that's head contact. Memozulas
was on the ground. I think it was trently Erro
did the tackle. He's sitting there, he's holding his neck.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
No penalty.
Speaker 9 (04:12):
It's the fairness of it all. There's no fairness at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Fair to be fair, ABDA come on last night admitted
they got it wrong and said there will be immediate change.
So as much as yeah, I agree with you Cross,
you know they've been getting it wrong. You know, I
do question the no crackdown by the NRL, and I
think Desi's right there, there's been a crack like that
because the players haven't changed the way that they play
(04:36):
that much for the amount of penalties that have been given,
synbins and reports and you name it. So they're definitely
refereeing differently too. And I mentioned that to Andrew last night.
It's not just the bunker, you know that they are
giving more head EIE penalties that shouldn't be and there's
definitely more synbins that shouldn't be.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Full credit to Abdoor to be able to say that,
you know, to admit that they got it wrong. You
know what I'm interested in is what he said in
all his interviews yesterday, is how much reach the bunker
is going to have during Magic Round. Is it going
to go back and pull up, you know, indiscretions from
earlier in the in the set. That's going to be
the interesting thing because he seems to think that that threshold,
(05:13):
as he was calling it, needs to be needs to
be lifted, and that's going to be interesting to see
in Magic Round, just where that thresholds at.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
The referees are always going to push the envelope. I
think we're missing the point. If they changed the technique
of all the players and they get hit in the
head less, there's going to be less Papa.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
The last couple of nights off because you think the
players are going to responsible now.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
I think tackling techniques really pull that.
Speaker 8 (05:35):
Bolly comes in and there's Hazeltin runs, He's got his
rib cage open, and he stands up and hits him
in there.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
That's the one offense. Gordon.
Speaker 9 (05:44):
You can't pin this back on the coaches and the
players and tackling technique.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
I'll tell you what. Okay, So where they learn? A
year ago?
Speaker 9 (05:50):
A year ago, hang on a second last June I
wrote a story Bennett.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
There was so much frustration in the game.
Speaker 9 (05:58):
Bennett couldn't bite his tongue anymore, bring me up, and
he wanted to do a story about it because he
was so fed up and everyone in the game was
so fed up. He came up with some really great
ideas right at the end of the season. They sat
weighing down, they said, Ivan Cleary and Ricky Stewart, and they.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Came up with a plan. Well guess what.
Speaker 9 (06:13):
They didn't bring the plan into play, and we're a
year down the track and it hasn't got better, mate,
it has got worse. They came up with a plan
that perhaps could have fixed the sinbin problem that we
have at the moment while still punishing high tackles.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
They ignored it.
Speaker 9 (06:30):
Andrew Abdo said last night, we might look at it
at the end of the year. They looked at the
end of last year, and they trialed it in a trial.
They spoke about putting regular people in the bunker, right
for regular people that could be there every week to
try and get some consistency.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Never happened. Never happened, Never happened.
Speaker 9 (06:48):
To Mate, reference a game because this could have been
sorted out, or at least we would be on the
right track.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
But to me and to many many.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
Fans out there, mate, backwards, I used to used to
get penalized if you gave way a penalty. It was taboo.
Now I reckon your coach to give away penalties. That's
why six to go to coming. They don't care how
many penalties.
Speaker 9 (07:09):
Believe is coached injured. I would back there, but I
would suggest mate on the try line. Yeah, their coach
to give away penalties and slow down the game and
that sort of stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
They probably don't care. But I wouldn't say I like
the only I would like.
Speaker 8 (07:25):
I would like every week to challenge every coach to
come down the park and run.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
And I hit him in the.
Speaker 9 (07:29):
Head the only delivery active.
Speaker 8 (07:35):
And I hit him at I said, man, I'm sorry,
I just slipped you know, MAT's up and just see
whether they like it.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
And I don't think that they would.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
I didn't like it when I'm playing and now you
see them all getting hit in the head and they
just run, bend your back I.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Speak to I don't A lot of coaches were on
the point your I think it's all a lot of
factors to be to the game, the surface, the interpret
But but I agree with you, Gordy, because I've been
writing this for a few years, because you talk to
coaches about it. Did they think that you know, the
two players, the two defenders coming in that up high.
That's a big part of it. So let me ask
(08:08):
you this, Then, what do you say to those, and
the great Mic Cronan has been a propeller this for
a long time. Two in the tackle, I don't mind it.
But I don't know why we don't even try that.
Why we don't even.
Speaker 8 (08:19):
Consider that because the athletes got two seconds because the
athletes got too good, got too big, too big and too.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
That would take it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
That would take a while to for players to get
you still, So that's not an off season thing.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
That that's that's a whole.
Speaker 9 (08:36):
Fifteen the interchange and everything else comes having an idea.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
It's good enough for me.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Krona haven't appear on the show because there's one on
one right.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
And then in my era, the player the balls got
so quick, so I had to be two in a tackle,
and now they play the balls didn't slow down, so
now there's three just to slow it down.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
So you don't have as many rocking friends either. And
the leg tackle wasn't getting rewarded.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Get rid of the sixth to go, which is so
subjective anyway, the tackle.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It's not just fans that are blowing up though the
immoral Joey he was feelthy, wasn't he?
Speaker 6 (09:11):
And that it was well reported and on TV and
all that.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, he put the headset down here.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I wrote that in The Australian yesterday he with twenty
look at that look at that head Jesus.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Yeah, and I reckon, I'm bigger than current and he
hits him in the head.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So that was a send off, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I thought?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
But this, this story in terms of Joey, like I mean,
it just shows you know, people give Joey, have different
opinions on Joe Jo love the fact that he's so
unfielded and it's such a fan of the game that
he could not call the last twenty three minutes of
that match for Channel nine. He just put his put
his his microphone down after the bole a well, when
it got to Golden Point they trying to engage, he said,
(09:53):
I hope there's no head highs and then said nothing
for the rest of the game. To me, that just
sums up the frustration, particularly and former players about what's
going on in the game.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
It's not just former players though, it's the fans too.
You look, you look at any online story that that
talks about the crackdown all the sin bins at the moment,
and the majority of fans feel so frustrated Gordy and
this is what the game can't ignore because people love
rugby league. Well you know what your friends will say,
oh wait, watch the footing next week. They're always back
on watching the footy because they love rugby league.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
But they still care.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
That was the dumbest one out of the weekend.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
You know, it just sort of put an exclamation point
on the weekend.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Really, that's a creature of habit. Yeah, because that's what.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
It's not even a penalty though, is it.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's if it's a penalty, it's only just why does
he hit him in the head.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
To wrap up the ball?
Speaker 9 (10:45):
And you're right, it's look he got him high and
he has got his ribs cage there that he But
the fact.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
That it's not a sin being Gordy, it has never
been a sin.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Bin get ten of those a game. As I said,
just go down bunk, just get someone. Just keep on
it in your hand.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Do it now.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
It's annoying.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
You're pretty outspoken about Latrell Mitchell. It's him been in
now one week suspension. You don't believe he should have been.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
I'll tell you what I don't believe.
Speaker 9 (11:16):
I don't believe it's fair that Latrell gets one week
for that and he gets sin binned. And Isaiah Yo
hits Tom Travoyevitch with a swinging arm and again I'll
call him both Rugby League accidents in a way.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
But Yo hits him and gets nothing, Mane.
Speaker 9 (11:32):
This is it all goes back to the fairness, and
in fairness to Latrell. Litrell's a bloke that is so
polarizing in our game, and so many people love him
and others don't like him.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
But when that tackle happened, there's an immediate blow up.
Oh he should have been sent off. But when you
actually look at the tackle and Faye Logo.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
Comes sliding in different circumstances and Latrell hits him right,
Falgo actually knocks himself out when.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
When his head hits the ground.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
This was careless at all.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Yeah, it's careless.
Speaker 9 (11:59):
But what I'm saying is it's the unfairness because then
you get Yo that gets understand that, and that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
With the game at the moment.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Thought for Latrell's I'd take the week and run.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
If that's how I saw it, I saw it differently
because I reckon we've seen accidents in the game forever,
and you'll never get it out of the game unless
you's unless you put on os tag or you put
on touch footy, because it's a collision sport and unfortunately
it's going to happen.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
He's sliding on the wet ground there and he and
he's and he's engaged.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Latrell and he was going to pass the ball.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
So quick on what he's going to do and the
defenders moving forward when standing there in the defensive.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I'm happy if he stays on the field and let
the matter review handle it, you know what I mean.
I just think they're so trigger happy with with sending
boats to the bin. But then again, the bunker and
the referees are under instructions from those above them.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
The direction is going to come. What about magic around
this weekend? What's a pass mark?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Again?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Andrew Abdo was on sitting right there where you are,
Cruls and he said, it's not going to be the same.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
They're going to pull back on the bunker. They're not
going to interrupt the game.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
The referees probably won't be as harsh with their judgment
of high tackles.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
What's a past mark?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Common sense?
Speaker 9 (13:17):
Common sense is a pass mark? Like you can't put
a number on what's right and what's wrong. But we
speak about it all the time. The majority of people
will sit down and they will agree what constitutes as
send off, what constitutes has sin bin, and what's a
penalty and what you let go.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
We just want to see common sense.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Okay, what are we expecting then, more more so than
a pass mark? Do we think that it's going to
be a lot different this weekend from the conversation we
had with the NLCO.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I think it's going to be significantly different.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Oh, I think so too, But I wouldn't even want
to try and forecast what it's going to look like.
Like I mean, honestly, it's so all over the place
at the moment, like I've got no I actually am
worried about how it's.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
Going to go.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
We're not talking about magic round. If we're talking about
Sinbin's on Monday morning, that's a failure for.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
The Can we live with if the referee misses it?
Speaker 9 (14:12):
Yes, for mate, that's what the mat We're always going
to debate the game, mate, We're always going to debate
the game. But they missed the Burton one the other day, right,
I wasn't upset that they missed the Burton one. I
was upset when they saw the Burton one they didn't
Sinbinni all right.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Circling back to des at the top of the show,
we're going back there, and the reporter, which he caught
my eye, am i ear said are you deflecting from
the last four losses?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yes, Daz and Wayne Bennett are the masters of using
the press to distract attention from their team. I've got
no doubt that that's what des has done. I also
don't understand why he's done his press conference this morning
or earlier today and not after dropping David Tafita. I
think that's prettyordinary from Deaz. I know Desert's mind games,
(15:02):
and I love deserts so much anyone.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
He's done the press conference before, it looks.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Like to me, that looks ridicuous.
Speaker 9 (15:08):
He could have been defending his reputation with the fact
that Titans are at the top of the penalty things
and he doesn't think that they're all fair and he
doesn't think they're chemist right.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
You don't think Cruelsey should have spoken after dropping over
for feeder from the team and explaining it to the
fans and given the way that they're playing.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I just think that's I think that's ordinary and I
see that.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
As a different issue though, there's no question in the
world you can't make excuses for the Titans performances this year,
but you can also defend your club.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
But he can do it all with the one press
conference later in the day gime. I know he does,
but I mean the NRL, I think that's rubbish. I
don't think the NRL should should let coaches, you know,
dictate when they talk in the week, do it before
the game.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
Well, there was a time, there was a time to
where they used to make every player talk every every
three weeks.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Was that they all run their you know what I had.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
About it, because later in the week they're going to
shove up two players. They're going to have to air
the questions a bit. Why David Ffieda isn't in the
team and not the coach Surgury.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
So that's something about Dave that no one knows. Sure
they had a show.
Speaker 8 (16:07):
Sorry, he had an ankle reconstruction and he's struggled with
pain in his ankle.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Has pressure? Is he under pressure?
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Has to be under is his job on the line?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Do you think they'd be considering other options or has
he got some time here?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
What do we think? How long has he got? The
way he's going at the moment is unders well.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
They're definitely underachieving, aren't they. And they're and they're throwing
away good leads, which shows that they should be more
competitive over eighty minutes?
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Is he under pressure? Who knows?
Speaker 9 (16:38):
Like, if you don't win football games, you're under pressure.
That's how it works.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Surely they've got to be you guys, tell me they've
got to be doing better than the Tamos.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
Yeah, I thought I thought would be doing better, especially
this year. This is does his second year. One thing
I know about the organization that they're very loyal. You
haven't heard anything out there? No, I haven't heard anything,
but I don't go there either. The last game I
was there was a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Probably not going to tell you anyway, because you sitting here,
Can you please tell them?
Speaker 6 (17:04):
I need to break a story?
Speaker 7 (17:05):
All right?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Let's take a look at the ins and out's around
nine thanks to sports Bett, and here they are a
couple of big ones this week is the teams are
on out today white and at five eight Dodd on
the extended bench, Ily has dropped for the Dragons, King
Tommy are named at half or five eight, whichever one.
David Fafeeda demoted to the reserves list for the Titans,
Garner a place in McClean at center for the Panthers,
(17:29):
and Reynolds chosen for the Broncos despite that shoult Or injury.
Now we'll get to the Dragons, but quickly, let's talk
about Lewis Dodd and him not getting a run this week.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
What's our take on this.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
It's a massive story, really, isn't it.
Speaker 9 (17:44):
Like you can't you can't hide from the fact he's
on seven hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
He's chilling up seven hundred thousand dollars a year. They're
short of halves.
Speaker 9 (17:54):
They haven't got Cody, they haven't got Humphreys at the moment,
and he's moved Jack Whiton.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Why won't they pick Obviously he's not playing well enough,
well enough, He hasn't played that much well.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
He's obviously way in New South Wales.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Doesn't think that he's first grade ready or he's good
enough to play.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
He's picked Jack White and at five eight this week
he's moved him from centers.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
They're already short Latrell. It suggests to me.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That he's no Cody, no Latrell.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Yeah, well, it is what it is, isn't it. They
haven't picked him. You can't make excuses for it.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
I remember we talked about this in Vegas on the
on the show when we were there for the start
of the season.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
It was always going to be a bubbling issue. It
just seems to be
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