September 22, 2025 • 26 mins
Catch up on all the Rugby League news from NRL 360, Thursday September 18th, with hosts Braith Anasta and Gorden Tallis.
Braith Anasta and Gorden Tallis are joined by Brent Read and Phil Rothfield to unpack a massive week of finals footy on NRL 360. The panel dives into the Bulldogs’ straight-sets exit, clashing over Cameron Ciraldo’s season of changes and whether they ultimately cost the Dogs their shot at glory. Attention then turns to Penrith, as the Panthers continue their charge toward an unprecedented five straight premierships - is the dream of a 5-peat about to become reality?
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome to AL three sixty Rugby League from every angle,
brought to you by Regain. The race to the Premiership
is down to just four teams after an epic weekend
of semi finals football.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
As the Panthers and.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Sharks prepare for a prelim showdown, two heavyweight contenders are
left wondering where it all went wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
They have had any dream season? The Raiders in the
Sharks right here, Trindle hard set up the left.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
What a fuss by Turner, the.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Schools grid, Triddle there, flick post.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Hugs Dad again, I know we just deep Mike.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Up now one last play They go on the short
side again and well, Tanna's gone. Where does Sharks fans
have gone up? Some only crazy twenty unanswered points and
throw the prelimb fire. It's the Panthers and the Bulldogs
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replacing against the Broncos. We're under the way here in
the city, five meters out edwards to clearing.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It comes to the middle.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Lindy Spith keeple going, sorrezon and McLean.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Likewise, Tara for the corner.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Let's try and go to the Panthers for second. Here
Edwards tip on again. Tell the money off the back
of Tuggle still going Allabody's goes the former Budog takes
a number two for the Panthers. I'm believing and in
that's humble for Allabody gets away from it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
A karma back on the inside. Terry is there.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
The Panthers strike once again. He's clearing to Loundy McLean
stands clearing rapping chosen dummy gets.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
It the top of picks.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Backod Feld Lady is there and everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Get to try Yo clearing the heads again.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Tunle hell the buddy.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
For a Mattrek on a big, big day.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
There's dumbing too.
Speaker 7 (02:31):
The pomp cosen next for the four time defending champions.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
They have taken down the Bulldogs forty six points to
twenty six.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
How good was the first or the second week of finals?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
We are joining me?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
The Great gordin Tallas has bring the jones in buzz
Rothfield and Brent Reid in two games, two winners, one
and darn it was the Sharks that were too good
for the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Buzzy'd be happy with that one.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
And then yesterday Panthers with a clinical display smashing the
Bulldogs at the Core Stadium, Gording.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Well, look it was a fantastic the Sharks obviously getting
that monkey off. They're back in pen with yesterday. That's
probably the best forty minutes of their season. And you
were the.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Teams guys outside the top four are still alive, the
Panthers and the Sharks. The other thing made I'll tell
you about a smashing weekend for rugby league on television.
You know, these two finals we had on the weekend
ratings in Australia and year Zeland on Fox and on
Channel nine year on year were up thirty four percent.
(03:38):
That's how many. And I'll tell you what's really impressive.
Ad midilely off a low base, but Melbourne AFL City
up ninety five percent.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Now with the crowds.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
I've written it all down here, the attendances and the
two finals on the weekend, even though we didn't fill
a pall, they are up thirty five percent compared to
last year.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
The game's going, it's are you taking any credit for that?
Boys in the journal, A little bit.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
We've contributed our little part positive. Every second team in
the are right in a couple more off.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Stadium.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Let's get to the Panthers and the dream is alive
for their fifth straight premiership after the demolition of the
Dogs at the Course Stadium yesterday, and they were simply superb.
Completion rated one hundred percent in that first half. Execution
was at a premium speed, power, you name it, they
had it. Finesse Cleary was the outstanding. What a performance
(04:42):
it was by the premiers.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah. Look for I've never seen a side in recent
history dominate territory the way they've been able to dominate.
I know that the Dogs are a little bit light
on in the forwards, but their way that they could
suffocate the Dogs and that up and in that famous
up and in Dogs defense for them just to hold
back their speed and get to the edges on them
(05:04):
with some class or some silky skill, as I said,
is probably the best performance of the Pennmouth Panthers this year.
It was their best footing yea by a long way.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
You know what I have decided, Ivan clear his decision
to rest sixteen players in around twenty six was an
absolute coaching master.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Straightout it. We will still blow up.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
You were critical, don't sound flip flopping.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
And.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Well, you know what, I'm still critical of it for
the game of rugby league and that Canterbury would gifted
two competition points against reserve grade side.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
We need a rule, whether it's a bye before whatever.
We haven't talked about that later.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
His decision though, to freshen up his entire roster I
don't think was good for rugby league.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
But i'll tell you what. He had a premiership in mind.
Ratings and everybody come out to watch them because they're
seeing the champs. So it is a master stroke. It
is that they they're healthy, they're mentally strong, they're fresh.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah, they look fresh to they're playing like the fresh earlier.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And the like you're right, no, we're not disagreeing.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Earlier in the year there were times when they look
tired of the bit jaded or a little a little
unmotivated maybe, and obviously they wanted to get to this
point of the season. They were so slick in that
first forty minutes. They so classy and Nathan has just
been I mean the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
He's how good he is.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I was going to say it's been ridiculous, but he's
like that every week season.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You put a line through them. Yeah he said that.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Still, I think Bristo will beat them this week. I
think Bristo will.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Be You still think that? Do you still think they
can't win the comp from outside the four?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Well, they're going to get through Brisbane first, they be Brisbane.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
There are a chance you're rubbed out every side in
the comp this year.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You said were no good.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
You famously said East.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And Walker wouldn't play.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Did they win, the cops would.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Back there. I think this is a new one British.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I think I think Brisbane at home Sunday are game
the Okay, I'm going to get through Brisbane when the
Cape break and I don't think they will.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
You still don't think they can do it though, so
you don't think Penrith on that performance, I'm not beat
every other team.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And look, if they get past Brisbane, I can see
they're a chance to win the greend past Brisbane.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
I reckon Ivan and a few of the players who
are watching this show that I are so happy about
what they just said that another side he's written off
the other thing just going back quickly to the Masters
stroke less than their sixteen players. Remember after Origin in
Perth had an away game in New Zealand and he
would not even think about picking his five players.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Again, that's why they're fresh now from master stroke to
master class by anything.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Clearly, we've spoken about it already, but let's dive a
little deeper into his performance and how spectacular it was.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It was Andrew John's esque.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
They control the poise, the direction in which he led
his team, in the way that he executed every single
play with intent, and Gordy I haven't seen I don't
think I've seen a better performance from a seven this year.
In the first forty minutes, like we said, I mean,
they took their foot off the accelerator bit.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I think signs for Perth when he took the first
goal kick, because he struggled this year with his hips
and he's growing. So for Nathan to do the goalkick
and this looks like that he was free. There was
a moment there where they got him over on the right.
I think if he kicks here and he kicks it
and puts it on a dime, he passed it. He
was just a step ahead all game. The Dogs are
known for their defense. That's what's kept them in the
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last couple of years, their defense. And I said yes,
saying the call Nathan Cleary pulled him apart like a
hot chalk. He was so clinical, you know, going through
his movements.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
You know, and there's this argument, and I've argued against
your guys when we try, I try and put him
on Joey and Jonathan Thurston's level and above Kronk and
all that. But he typically and you guys argue back
about any origin. But he so typically does this in finals.
And you go back to the that when they came
(09:23):
from that impossible position against Adam Reynolds, and you know
that the was the Broncos a couple of years ago.
That performance and then again yesterday put him in.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
The Hall of Fame. Now.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I was talking to someone after game yes night. I said,
can you do you remember the last time you walked
away from a game? And he went, she's Nathan out
a shocker today. I don't think I've ever said it.
He just his standard is so high. He just doesn't
have poor games. They're either good or brilliant.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
There's no poor in his He has levels too, He
has levels, and he took them to another level yesterday.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
He just went, you're.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Watching I mean no, no, no, yes, he was really
He's been good for a long time, but yesterday, like
you watch him go to the defensive line, always a threat,
and he plays so square, he knows who he wants
to get to, whose eyes he wants to engage, what
player he wants hitting short are out the back, And
I mean Penith do a great job of giving giving
him a number of options at any given time with
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every play because they're set up is so good. But
the execution and yeah, he's he plays so square that
he can run the ball, he can throw the pass,
he can kick like he has every option at any
time because of the way that he plays, the style
style that he plays. It's just sublime, it really is.
It's beautiful to watch.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Yeah, and contact doesn't mywn mind. He doesn't mean he's
willing to take on the defensive line when he has
to because he's physically he's quite quite a physically physically
physically built guy. And Brisbane had to beat him next week,
they've got to stop this week. They've got to stop him.
It's as simple as that.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
You mentioned the Panthers and if they do win five
in a row, so Ivan Cleary five in a row,
where does that hold him amongst coaches over the rugby league.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
It's a really big thing to say because you know,
I grew up as a young reporter when Jack Gibson
was winning titles. He won five Grand Finals, Wayne Bennett
won seven, and Craig Bellamy. No one will ever match
the consistency. He's won five titles, get three of them.
I think under the salary cap rules, considering the amount
(11:27):
of players and assistant coaches he's lost, considering that at
the bottom of the ladder in round twelve and.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
They've had to come from nowhere.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
If he lifts that trophy in two weeks time, I
would put them him up with Jack and Wayne Bennett
and Craig Bellamy as the greatest coaches of all time.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
He's in the argument, it's no doubt about that. Well,
I'm saying he's in the argument. Rath, it's worth a debate.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I'm above him.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Well, I think Craig probably is, because I think Craig's
regenerated teams. He's been at the top for five years
in the arraw But Craig's won premierships.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Breaks last time permission lost them, Yes, like I've done. Yes,
over twenty years, he's consistently lost them.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And this is of course anyway.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And Wayne's won seven comps.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
I said that, and Jack Gibson won five comps, but
when Wayne was winning comps he had after the Queensland.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Side, he's got a pretty handy team as well.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, but they're trying to appreciate them all. Yeah, well
that's what I'm trying to do. God them up there
with them. No, but you should say that they're equal then, yeah,
you know, because in American busball they call it the
mount rushmore. So there's a I mean, so they sit
up there equally with the greatest and what Jack achieved,
what Wayne's achieved, what Craig Bellamy has achieved, with some
of the players that he's achieved. If you've looked at
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Penrith over the last five years and it's in hindsight,
the players that they've had gone through the system is
the arguably some of the greatest players to play.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
The only thing I leaning with Cleary joining them is
that it's salary cap era and it's so hard to
win comps when you're losing your players and your coaches
every year.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
He's definitely amongst the best ever, especially if he goes
on the five pat now. Cameron Serroudo was defiant post
game after the Bulldogs bounced out of the finals in
straight sets.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
When you reflect, what did you learn, like, would you
have changed anything? Well, what have you learned from the past?
What three three were so months? No?
Speaker 6 (13:33):
No, I wouldn't change the thing. You know, this is
this is all part of the journey. There's been some
tough times this year. Our guys about to deal with
a lot more scrutiny than probably some other places and
short of know what the headlines will be, But internally
we're really clear on how this season panned out, what
was good, what we need to do better. Yeah, we
don't need no vindication or validation on what we're doing.
We know, you know, we know what we're doing and
really confident in what we're doing. But we're lucky to
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go out there today and attack the game the way
he did. I thought he was in one of our
top players out there. I thought Bailey Hayward was one
of our top players out there when he got on
the field. For those two guys in particular, to come
out and play will be two of our best on
the big stage under the most pressure says a lot
about their character in terms of how much crap they
had to deal with this week and external opinions like
(14:16):
those two guys are tough, tough characters. They're going to
play a massive part in our future, no.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Matter what you think of it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It's been the biggest story of the this year has
been the Bulldogs and there changing of the guard. You
could say Laughlin Galvin coming in mid season, they were
coming first and then they are out of the competition
and gone in straight sets. Let's just rip the band
aid off and get straight into it. I'll come to you,
Buzz because you were the men the road this for
(14:44):
Monday Bars and you've been quite outspoken about this.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Well, I'm just a bit disappointed in Cameron's press conference
yesterday when he spoke about the crap that's been in
the media, the commentary around all the changes he's made
in the unsettling effect it's on his football side, and
absolutely no self reflection, absolutely no respect for anyone who
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has even challenged him on you go through it all.
Sexton was the first to be dropped, then Galvin came
into the side, then Marny got dropped, and then Bailey
Haywood got dropped. You know what happened yesterday Sexton came
back into the side. Galvin moved to five eight where
we all know he was best suited.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
That's out, buzz, I mean, that was why the changes
took place.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
What do you mean what about Red Marney coming back? Yeah,
Themarney Marney was bringing back. What I want to compare
it to is a settled side like Cranulla, who have
had Blake Brayley upfront. They've had Heines, they've had Trendle,
they've had Kennedy out the back. They've been so settled
and they're still alive in this competition.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
He made he made too many changes.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
The players were confused, they lacked coesion, Their defense even
fell apart yesterday.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It's hard hard to argue that it hasn't had an
impact on the club and their team the way they
were tracking. I know that you were going to argue,
and you can argue all you like, but from my opinion,
just looking at it, and yeah, even watching yesterday, he
kind of confused and you don't They've made so many
(16:20):
changes and went in so many different directions.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
What would you have had them do differently yesterday? Can
I ask?
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Because Crichton was out, the best ops was to move
Burton to the centate. You guys keep going back to
mid year, right, can I say round sixteen? I looked
at their draw today. For the first sixteen rounds, there
had two buyers, They played four top eight teams. In hindsight,
fort they had a soft draw. No, I'm saying they
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had a soft draw, so where they were false leaders
at that point because they.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Had a soft leaders that at the time.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Well, if you remember I said they couldn't win the
cor I've got to give us said that all year, Broth,
all year. I said they couldn't win something, and they
need to make some need to make changes.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Changes.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
You reckon that drawer was so I can take it
through that last let me take it through this. The
last six weeks they won one game out of six.
One game you know that was against a reserve grade
Penriside with about sixteen players. Right, So all these changes
he made did not work.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
There is the proof.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
Okay, I don't need any other status.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Are saying that because they didn't think they could win.
You didn't think they could win the camp. You're okay
with what's hapchanging?
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Yes, because I think in the long run they're going
to be a better team as a result of the
changes They made.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Do you think they thought that.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I think they thought they couldn't win the camp, that's.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yes. So what happened this is this is just my opinion,
and I'm happy for them to prove me wrong. When
you said that the half backs not good enough, you
tell all the other players that you're not good enough
to win the camp. So bomb there and I'm a background,
I'm personal and on kickout and I'm Stephen Crichton and
I've got to bring in an eighteen year old kid, right,
that's what beyond the ears to win the competition. I'm
embarrassed because they were on top of the table and
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you can say it's soft. You can only beat who
you play against, and I thought that, and in hindsight,
if they're honest, don't blame me. I wouldn't have made
that decision and they should not.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I think that's why, like, ex players can speak to
this situation better. And I'm not saying that you guys
don't have a valid points and opinions, but as ex
players and you talk to a lot of ex players
about this current situation.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I said it at the time.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
It's not so much the decision you're making, it's the
impact it's going to have on the team and your
teammates going through what a few of them had to
go through. And they played it down and said that
the team was happy the whole time. The teammates are
on board. Of course you're on board. You listen to
your coach, you believe in your coach, and you do
all year. But you know, bubbling underneath the surface, there's
a bit of uncertainty, and it's like, do they not
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think we can win the comp with the group we've got,
We're coming first?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Do they not think that this guy and he can
do the job that needs to be done With Maney,
we interviewed him on Triple M how emotionally was and
cried about when he got to the place to when
he left the place. That's the guy. So now if
I'm sitting you know, you to talk about people when
you sit in the dress room, I would like to
have played with the guy and you go, yeah, he
gives away penalties, but he gives away our penalties because
he got in front of guys. He was trying to
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make things happen. Yes, so they're the things that.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I can I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
He was trying to win a camp.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
That's why he made the differing it out now ready,
that's right.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
I didn't turn now to say he was wrong, And
I'll ask you this. I'll ask you one more question.
Did he err in playing Lachlan Galvin at halfback and
asked him to run that football side rather than at
five to eight where we all knew he was much
more comfortable as was shown yes afternoon of course stadium.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Well he played for the Yes, they got flogged, flogged, but.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Quiet game.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
He was their best player with Jacob Press.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
We didn't help, you know, and you can't admit it.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
He should not have been picked at half back to
run that side. Well at the time.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
The best their attack, their attack when I'm coming first
or fifth in the I just told you their draw
breath fifty. I just told you they draw fifteenth attack,
Take it through.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
They played, mate, wouldn take it through their play?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
You put me to sleep, as you normally do. But it's.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
So you you you think he was one hundred percent
confident with the decisions he's made. He's happy with the
ones he's made. He's got no regrets whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
He didn't sound to me the guy's got.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
This decisions going there yesday is one of the greatest days.
And your wish that the Bulldogs fan would have won
like it was a special day to see the crowd rocking.
And if they won like next week, it would have
been bigger. Rights.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Forty two tackles at half time? Yep, forty two? Would
they missed forty two tackles when they're coming first?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Breath and so I can't tell you, but as I said, but.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
The periods this year when they're coming first, and they've
been they flogged a couple of times when they're coming.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
First reading, can you not understand the confusion in that
football side where Marny's in one week, three weeks from
the bench sacked, Bally Hayward.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Bally Hayward is three weeks sack. I just I just
told you how well, Look, I'm sorry I didn't listen
all that carefully.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
You did.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Change Steve Crichton was out the hold one.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Talkers when you lose the center, now, don't go on
with that rubbish. You don't change talkings when the center, Paul.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
They did, you were calling for remarty.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
They say they shouldn't have brought red money because confused
everyone so you're confused by no, you're making this up now.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
You see the start of the year that Red Marney
right needed to get the rubbish out of each game
he did. He should have stayed in the football side
is extremely popular with the players you know years and
Bailey Hayward the week before your hawk at missed thirteen tackles, so.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
He brought him back into hooker.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Change now, But you're both missing the point here. It's
just so much of change and so much no matter
who plays where, no one knows who's playing where, and
everyone's changing. Look at their edges yesterday, Rudy. Look at
their defensive reads on the edges. Look, they had no idea.
They were not working as a unit. Forty two miss
tackles means that you are not playing as a team,
and you're not playing as a team because the team
has changed so much over a long period of time
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that you actually end up losing belief and trust in
each other because you don't know who you're playing next to.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Like, how could you.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Sit here and say that those big significant decisions of
a team coming first with a chance to win a competition,
whether you think they could over or nine, has not
led to a team now that was losing thirty six
points to eight at halftime in the final.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I think what we saw yesterday was their spine reading.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
What about the spine, the fine, the most key, the
four key position.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
You are you wanted sext and back in the team,
you want a money back in the team. How did
they play yesterday? The team yesterday?
Speaker 7 (23:11):
Confidence might have been shattered in the manner in which
they would trade.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Round and there wasn't Maybe maybe Preston was the best dog.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Preston and.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You know what, they look tired relieve the years. Do
you think that Daly Cherry Evans decision hurt manly m hmm.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I've said on here then yes, yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
The Galvin decision heard the Bulldogs just stay consistent.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Okay, So what happens now with the Dogs? What happens
now moving on the next year?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
What do they do they need?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
They need some big forwards break before the strength of the.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Middle of the middle of the field, because they get
they got steamroll at times this year.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
So they Thompsons coming.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
They need more than Thompson for okayo King tried harder
so he was just a bit small. But then the
but Penmouth have done that to a lot of sides.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
I think Mitch Woods comes in a half back, so
you play Mitch Woods at half.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Gelvin plays six, Burton goes to the centers, shuffle right
up quite plays fullbackers.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
He has a chance.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Well, I think that's it. I think it has to
be a chance. I think it has to be a
chance because I think Connor Tracy as good as he is,
and I think Steve Crichton is elite.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
And the more you can get the ball, Brady and
I know you're particularly tight with cam and the Bulldogs
the way you're speaking of them at all.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Did they in letting Al go to Penrith Local Jr?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
What do you may come on local Junior?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Mil Per?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Where's he getting that team on the wing where you
got him?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
He would.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
He tries in the wing for penalties. I'm not sure
that he's a good player. I don't not to nying that,
but at the time he was.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Gone, so you would have scored that trick.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Now that one I probably wouldn't.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
The other big thing about Canterbury yesterday with all these changes,
excuse me, they put Matt Burton in a position where
he can't use that burming boot and Galvin did all
the kicking yesterday or but and with Burton. He was
heard at training last Thursday night. He did his soon
his shoulder. He went into the game with pay Kelly injections.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
But mate Burns kicked the center this year.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Burns play and he kicked the start of the game.
He's doing a lot of long keys.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
He can kick the balls.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Galvin, I think was feeling it and he was in
a bit of a mood yesterday was playing some good footy,
so he took which I thought was good boys. Kenny Suthcliffe,
he's coming on later. Are you two going to start behaving?
Looking forward to Kenny coming up? He's the key, absolute legend,
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all right. If you two to settle down, stick around
journals on Friday to ride a cup against the US
take on Europe, and you didn't catch all the action
from nine pm on Channel FO by Throt
Welcome to AL three sixty Rugby League from every angle,
brought to you by Regain. The race to the Premiership
is down to just four teams after an epic weekend
of semi finals football.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
As the Panthers and.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Sharks prepare for a prelim showdown, two heavyweight contenders are
left wondering where it all went wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
They have had any dream season? The Raiders in the
Sharks right here, Trindle hard set up the left.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
What a fuss by Turner, the.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Schools grid, Triddle there, flick post.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Hugs Dad again, I know we just deep Mike.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Up now one last play They go on the short
side again and well, Tanna's gone. Where does Sharks fans
have gone up? Some only crazy twenty unanswered points and
throw the prelimb fire. It's the Panthers and the Bulldogs
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replacing against the Broncos. We're under the way here in
the city, five meters out edwards to clearing.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It comes to the middle.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Lindy Spith keeple going, sorrezon and McLean.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Likewise, Tara for the corner.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Let's try and go to the Panthers for second. Here
Edwards tip on again. Tell the money off the back
of Tuggle still going Allabody's goes the former Budog takes
a number two for the Panthers. I'm believing and in
that's humble for Allabody gets away from it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
A karma back on the inside. Terry is there.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
The Panthers strike once again. He's clearing to Loundy McLean
stands clearing rapping chosen dummy gets.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
It the top of picks.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Backod Feld Lady is there and everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Get to try Yo clearing the heads again.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Tunle hell the buddy.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
For a Mattrek on a big, big day.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
There's dumbing too.
Speaker 7 (02:31):
The pomp cosen next for the four time defending champions.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
They have taken down the Bulldogs forty six points to
twenty six.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
How good was the first or the second week of finals?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
We are joining me?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
The Great gordin Tallas has bring the jones in buzz
Rothfield and Brent Reid in two games, two winners, one
and darn it was the Sharks that were too good
for the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Buzzy'd be happy with that one.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
And then yesterday Panthers with a clinical display smashing the
Bulldogs at the Core Stadium, Gording.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Well, look it was a fantastic the Sharks obviously getting
that monkey off. They're back in pen with yesterday. That's
probably the best forty minutes of their season. And you
were the.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Teams guys outside the top four are still alive, the
Panthers and the Sharks. The other thing made I'll tell
you about a smashing weekend for rugby league on television.
You know, these two finals we had on the weekend
ratings in Australia and year Zeland on Fox and on
Channel nine year on year were up thirty four percent.
(03:38):
That's how many. And I'll tell you what's really impressive.
Ad midilely off a low base, but Melbourne AFL City
up ninety five percent.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Now with the crowds.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
I've written it all down here, the attendances and the
two finals on the weekend, even though we didn't fill
a pall, they are up thirty five percent compared to
last year.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
The game's going, it's are you taking any credit for that?
Boys in the journal, A little bit.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
We've contributed our little part positive. Every second team in
the are right in a couple more off.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Stadium.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Let's get to the Panthers and the dream is alive
for their fifth straight premiership after the demolition of the
Dogs at the Course Stadium yesterday, and they were simply superb.
Completion rated one hundred percent in that first half. Execution
was at a premium speed, power, you name it, they
had it. Finesse Cleary was the outstanding. What a performance
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it was by the premiers.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah. Look for I've never seen a side in recent
history dominate territory the way they've been able to dominate.
I know that the Dogs are a little bit light
on in the forwards, but their way that they could
suffocate the Dogs and that up and in that famous
up and in Dogs defense for them just to hold
back their speed and get to the edges on them
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with some class or some silky skill, as I said,
is probably the best performance of the Pennmouth Panthers this year.
It was their best footing yea by a long way.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
You know what I have decided, Ivan clear his decision
to rest sixteen players in around twenty six was an
absolute coaching master.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Straightout it. We will still blow up.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
You were critical, don't sound flip flopping.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
And.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Well, you know what, I'm still critical of it for
the game of rugby league and that Canterbury would gifted
two competition points against reserve grade side.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
We need a rule, whether it's a bye before whatever.
We haven't talked about that later.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
His decision though, to freshen up his entire roster I
don't think was good for rugby league.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
But i'll tell you what. He had a premiership in mind.
Ratings and everybody come out to watch them because they're
seeing the champs. So it is a master stroke. It
is that they they're healthy, they're mentally strong, they're fresh.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah, they look fresh to they're playing like the fresh earlier.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And the like you're right, no, we're not disagreeing.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Earlier in the year there were times when they look
tired of the bit jaded or a little a little
unmotivated maybe, and obviously they wanted to get to this
point of the season. They were so slick in that
first forty minutes. They so classy and Nathan has just
been I mean the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
He's how good he is.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I was going to say it's been ridiculous, but he's
like that every week season.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You put a line through them. Yeah he said that.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Still, I think Bristo will beat them this week. I
think Bristo will.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Be You still think that? Do you still think they
can't win the comp from outside the four?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Well, they're going to get through Brisbane first, they be Brisbane.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
There are a chance you're rubbed out every side in
the comp this year.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You said were no good.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
You famously said East.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And Walker wouldn't play.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Did they win, the cops would.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Back there. I think this is a new one British.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I think I think Brisbane at home Sunday are game
the Okay, I'm going to get through Brisbane when the
Cape break and I don't think they will.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
You still don't think they can do it though, so
you don't think Penrith on that performance, I'm not beat
every other team.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And look, if they get past Brisbane, I can see
they're a chance to win the greend past Brisbane.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
I reckon Ivan and a few of the players who
are watching this show that I are so happy about
what they just said that another side he's written off
the other thing just going back quickly to the Masters
stroke less than their sixteen players. Remember after Origin in
Perth had an away game in New Zealand and he
would not even think about picking his five players.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Again, that's why they're fresh now from master stroke to
master class by anything.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Clearly, we've spoken about it already, but let's dive a
little deeper into his performance and how spectacular it was.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It was Andrew John's esque.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
They control the poise, the direction in which he led
his team, in the way that he executed every single
play with intent, and Gordy I haven't seen I don't
think I've seen a better performance from a seven this year.
In the first forty minutes, like we said, I mean,
they took their foot off the accelerator bit.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I think signs for Perth when he took the first
goal kick, because he struggled this year with his hips
and he's growing. So for Nathan to do the goalkick
and this looks like that he was free. There was
a moment there where they got him over on the right.
I think if he kicks here and he kicks it
and puts it on a dime, he passed it. He
was just a step ahead all game. The Dogs are
known for their defense. That's what's kept them in the
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last couple of years, their defense. And I said yes,
saying the call Nathan Cleary pulled him apart like a
hot chalk. He was so clinical, you know, going through
his movements.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
You know, and there's this argument, and I've argued against
your guys when we try, I try and put him
on Joey and Jonathan Thurston's level and above Kronk and
all that. But he typically and you guys argue back
about any origin. But he so typically does this in finals.
And you go back to the that when they came
(09:23):
from that impossible position against Adam Reynolds, and you know
that the was the Broncos a couple of years ago.
That performance and then again yesterday put him in.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
The Hall of Fame. Now.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I was talking to someone after game yes night. I said,
can you do you remember the last time you walked
away from a game? And he went, she's Nathan out
a shocker today. I don't think I've ever said it.
He just his standard is so high. He just doesn't
have poor games. They're either good or brilliant.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
There's no poor in his He has levels too, He
has levels, and he took them to another level yesterday.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
He just went, you're.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Watching I mean no, no, no, yes, he was really
He's been good for a long time, but yesterday, like
you watch him go to the defensive line, always a threat,
and he plays so square, he knows who he wants
to get to, whose eyes he wants to engage, what
player he wants hitting short are out the back, And
I mean Penith do a great job of giving giving
him a number of options at any given time with
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every play because they're set up is so good. But
the execution and yeah, he's he plays so square that
he can run the ball, he can throw the pass,
he can kick like he has every option at any
time because of the way that he plays, the style
style that he plays. It's just sublime, it really is.
It's beautiful to watch.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Yeah, and contact doesn't mywn mind. He doesn't mean he's
willing to take on the defensive line when he has
to because he's physically he's quite quite a physically physically
physically built guy. And Brisbane had to beat him next week,
they've got to stop this week. They've got to stop him.
It's as simple as that.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
You mentioned the Panthers and if they do win five
in a row, so Ivan Cleary five in a row,
where does that hold him amongst coaches over the rugby league.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
It's a really big thing to say because you know,
I grew up as a young reporter when Jack Gibson
was winning titles. He won five Grand Finals, Wayne Bennett
won seven, and Craig Bellamy. No one will ever match
the consistency. He's won five titles, get three of them.
I think under the salary cap rules, considering the amount
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of players and assistant coaches he's lost, considering that at
the bottom of the ladder in round twelve and.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
They've had to come from nowhere.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
If he lifts that trophy in two weeks time, I
would put them him up with Jack and Wayne Bennett
and Craig Bellamy as the greatest coaches of all time.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
He's in the argument, it's no doubt about that. Well,
I'm saying he's in the argument. Rath, it's worth a debate.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I'm above him.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Well, I think Craig probably is, because I think Craig's
regenerated teams. He's been at the top for five years
in the arraw But Craig's won premierships.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Breaks last time permission lost them, Yes, like I've done. Yes,
over twenty years, he's consistently lost them.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And this is of course anyway.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And Wayne's won seven comps.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
I said that, and Jack Gibson won five comps, but
when Wayne was winning comps he had after the Queensland.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Side, he's got a pretty handy team as well.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, but they're trying to appreciate them all. Yeah, well
that's what I'm trying to do. God them up there
with them. No, but you should say that they're equal then, yeah,
you know, because in American busball they call it the
mount rushmore. So there's a I mean, so they sit
up there equally with the greatest and what Jack achieved,
what Wayne's achieved, what Craig Bellamy has achieved, with some
of the players that he's achieved. If you've looked at
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Penrith over the last five years and it's in hindsight,
the players that they've had gone through the system is
the arguably some of the greatest players to play.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
The only thing I leaning with Cleary joining them is
that it's salary cap era and it's so hard to
win comps when you're losing your players and your coaches
every year.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
He's definitely amongst the best ever, especially if he goes
on the five pat now. Cameron Serroudo was defiant post
game after the Bulldogs bounced out of the finals in
straight sets.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
When you reflect, what did you learn, like, would you
have changed anything? Well, what have you learned from the past?
What three three were so months? No?
Speaker 6 (13:33):
No, I wouldn't change the thing. You know, this is
this is all part of the journey. There's been some
tough times this year. Our guys about to deal with
a lot more scrutiny than probably some other places and
short of know what the headlines will be, But internally
we're really clear on how this season panned out, what
was good, what we need to do better. Yeah, we
don't need no vindication or validation on what we're doing.
We know, you know, we know what we're doing and
really confident in what we're doing. But we're lucky to
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go out there today and attack the game the way
he did. I thought he was in one of our
top players out there. I thought Bailey Hayward was one
of our top players out there when he got on
the field. For those two guys in particular, to come
out and play will be two of our best on
the big stage under the most pressure says a lot
about their character in terms of how much crap they
had to deal with this week and external opinions like
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those two guys are tough, tough characters. They're going to
play a massive part in our future, no.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Matter what you think of it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It's been the biggest story of the this year has
been the Bulldogs and there changing of the guard. You
could say Laughlin Galvin coming in mid season, they were
coming first and then they are out of the competition
and gone in straight sets. Let's just rip the band
aid off and get straight into it. I'll come to you,
Buzz because you were the men the road this for
(14:44):
Monday Bars and you've been quite outspoken about this.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Well, I'm just a bit disappointed in Cameron's press conference
yesterday when he spoke about the crap that's been in
the media, the commentary around all the changes he's made
in the unsettling effect it's on his football side, and
absolutely no self reflection, absolutely no respect for anyone who
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has even challenged him on you go through it all.
Sexton was the first to be dropped, then Galvin came
into the side, then Marny got dropped, and then Bailey
Haywood got dropped. You know what happened yesterday Sexton came
back into the side. Galvin moved to five eight where
we all know he was best suited.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
That's out, buzz, I mean, that was why the changes
took place.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
What do you mean what about Red Marney coming back? Yeah,
Themarney Marney was bringing back. What I want to compare
it to is a settled side like Cranulla, who have
had Blake Brayley upfront. They've had Heines, they've had Trendle,
they've had Kennedy out the back. They've been so settled
and they're still alive in this competition.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
He made he made too many changes.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
The players were confused, they lacked coesion, Their defense even
fell apart yesterday.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It's hard hard to argue that it hasn't had an
impact on the club and their team the way they
were tracking. I know that you were going to argue,
and you can argue all you like, but from my opinion,
just looking at it, and yeah, even watching yesterday, he
kind of confused and you don't They've made so many
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changes and went in so many different directions.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
What would you have had them do differently yesterday? Can
I ask?
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Because Crichton was out, the best ops was to move
Burton to the centate. You guys keep going back to
mid year, right, can I say round sixteen? I looked
at their draw today. For the first sixteen rounds, there
had two buyers, They played four top eight teams. In hindsight,
fort they had a soft draw. No, I'm saying they
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had a soft draw, so where they were false leaders
at that point because they.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Had a soft leaders that at the time.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Well, if you remember I said they couldn't win the
cor I've got to give us said that all year, Broth,
all year. I said they couldn't win something, and they
need to make some need to make changes.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Changes.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
You reckon that drawer was so I can take it
through that last let me take it through this. The
last six weeks they won one game out of six.
One game you know that was against a reserve grade
Penriside with about sixteen players. Right, So all these changes
he made did not work.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
There is the proof.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
Okay, I don't need any other status.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Are saying that because they didn't think they could win.
You didn't think they could win the camp. You're okay
with what's hapchanging?
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Yes, because I think in the long run they're going
to be a better team as a result of the
changes They made.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Do you think they thought that.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I think they thought they couldn't win the camp, that's.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yes. So what happened this is this is just my opinion,
and I'm happy for them to prove me wrong. When
you said that the half backs not good enough, you
tell all the other players that you're not good enough
to win the camp. So bomb there and I'm a background,
I'm personal and on kickout and I'm Stephen Crichton and
I've got to bring in an eighteen year old kid, right,
that's what beyond the ears to win the competition. I'm
embarrassed because they were on top of the table and
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you can say it's soft. You can only beat who
you play against, and I thought that, and in hindsight,
if they're honest, don't blame me. I wouldn't have made
that decision and they should not.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I think that's why, like, ex players can speak to
this situation better. And I'm not saying that you guys
don't have a valid points and opinions, but as ex
players and you talk to a lot of ex players
about this current situation.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I said it at the time.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
It's not so much the decision you're making, it's the
impact it's going to have on the team and your
teammates going through what a few of them had to
go through. And they played it down and said that
the team was happy the whole time. The teammates are
on board. Of course you're on board. You listen to
your coach, you believe in your coach, and you do
all year. But you know, bubbling underneath the surface, there's
a bit of uncertainty, and it's like, do they not
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think we can win the comp with the group we've got,
We're coming first?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Do they not think that this guy and he can
do the job that needs to be done With Maney,
we interviewed him on Triple M how emotionally was and
cried about when he got to the place to when
he left the place. That's the guy. So now if
I'm sitting you know, you to talk about people when
you sit in the dress room, I would like to
have played with the guy and you go, yeah, he
gives away penalties, but he gives away our penalties because
he got in front of guys. He was trying to
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make things happen. Yes, so they're the things that.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I can I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
He was trying to win a camp.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
That's why he made the differing it out now ready,
that's right.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
I didn't turn now to say he was wrong, And
I'll ask you this. I'll ask you one more question.
Did he err in playing Lachlan Galvin at halfback and
asked him to run that football side rather than at
five to eight where we all knew he was much
more comfortable as was shown yes afternoon of course stadium.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Well he played for the Yes, they got flogged, flogged, but.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Quiet game.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
He was their best player with Jacob Press.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
We didn't help, you know, and you can't admit it.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
He should not have been picked at half back to
run that side. Well at the time.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
The best their attack, their attack when I'm coming first
or fifth in the I just told you their draw
breath fifty. I just told you they draw fifteenth attack,
Take it through.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
They played, mate, wouldn take it through their play?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
You put me to sleep, as you normally do. But it's.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
So you you you think he was one hundred percent
confident with the decisions he's made. He's happy with the
ones he's made. He's got no regrets whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
He didn't sound to me the guy's got.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
This decisions going there yesday is one of the greatest days.
And your wish that the Bulldogs fan would have won
like it was a special day to see the crowd rocking.
And if they won like next week, it would have
been bigger. Rights.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Forty two tackles at half time? Yep, forty two? Would
they missed forty two tackles when they're coming first?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Breath and so I can't tell you, but as I said, but.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
The periods this year when they're coming first, and they've
been they flogged a couple of times when they're coming.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
First reading, can you not understand the confusion in that
football side where Marny's in one week, three weeks from
the bench sacked, Bally Hayward.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Bally Hayward is three weeks sack. I just I just
told you how well, Look, I'm sorry I didn't listen
all that carefully.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
You did.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Change Steve Crichton was out the hold one.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Talkers when you lose the center, now, don't go on
with that rubbish. You don't change talkings when the center, Paul.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
They did, you were calling for remarty.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
They say they shouldn't have brought red money because confused
everyone so you're confused by no, you're making this up now.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
You see the start of the year that Red Marney
right needed to get the rubbish out of each game
he did. He should have stayed in the football side
is extremely popular with the players you know years and
Bailey Hayward the week before your hawk at missed thirteen tackles, so.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
He brought him back into hooker.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Change now, But you're both missing the point here. It's
just so much of change and so much no matter
who plays where, no one knows who's playing where, and
everyone's changing. Look at their edges yesterday, Rudy. Look at
their defensive reads on the edges. Look, they had no idea.
They were not working as a unit. Forty two miss
tackles means that you are not playing as a team,
and you're not playing as a team because the team
has changed so much over a long period of time
(22:32):
that you actually end up losing belief and trust in
each other because you don't know who you're playing next to.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Like, how could you.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Sit here and say that those big significant decisions of
a team coming first with a chance to win a competition,
whether you think they could over or nine, has not
led to a team now that was losing thirty six
points to eight at halftime in the final.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I think what we saw yesterday was their spine reading.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
What about the spine, the fine, the most key, the
four key position.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
You are you wanted sext and back in the team,
you want a money back in the team. How did
they play yesterday? The team yesterday?
Speaker 7 (23:11):
Confidence might have been shattered in the manner in which
they would trade.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Round and there wasn't Maybe maybe Preston was the best dog.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Preston and.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You know what, they look tired relieve the years. Do
you think that Daly Cherry Evans decision hurt manly m hmm.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I've said on here then yes, yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
The Galvin decision heard the Bulldogs just stay consistent.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Okay, So what happens now with the Dogs? What happens
now moving on the next year?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
What do they do they need?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
They need some big forwards break before the strength of the.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Middle of the middle of the field, because they get
they got steamroll at times this year.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
So they Thompsons coming.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
They need more than Thompson for okayo King tried harder
so he was just a bit small. But then the
but Penmouth have done that to a lot of sides.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
I think Mitch Woods comes in a half back, so
you play Mitch Woods at half.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Gelvin plays six, Burton goes to the centers, shuffle right
up quite plays fullbackers.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
He has a chance.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Well, I think that's it. I think it has to
be a chance. I think it has to be a
chance because I think Connor Tracy as good as he is,
and I think Steve Crichton is elite.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
And the more you can get the ball, Brady and
I know you're particularly tight with cam and the Bulldogs
the way you're speaking of them at all.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Did they in letting Al go to Penrith Local Jr?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
What do you may come on local Junior?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Mil Per?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Where's he getting that team on the wing where you
got him?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
He would.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
He tries in the wing for penalties. I'm not sure
that he's a good player. I don't not to nying that,
but at the time he was.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Gone, so you would have scored that trick.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Now that one I probably wouldn't.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
The other big thing about Canterbury yesterday with all these changes,
excuse me, they put Matt Burton in a position where
he can't use that burming boot and Galvin did all
the kicking yesterday or but and with Burton. He was
heard at training last Thursday night. He did his soon
his shoulder. He went into the game with pay Kelly injections.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
But mate Burns kicked the center this year.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Burns play and he kicked the start of the game.
He's doing a lot of long keys.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
He can kick the balls.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Galvin, I think was feeling it and he was in
a bit of a mood yesterday was playing some good footy,
so he took which I thought was good boys. Kenny Suthcliffe,
he's coming on later. Are you two going to start behaving?
Looking forward to Kenny coming up? He's the key, absolute legend,
(25:51):
all right. If you two to settle down, stick around
journals on Friday to ride a cup against the US
take on Europe, and you didn't catch all the action
from nine pm on Channel FO by Throt
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