Catch up on all the Rugby League news from NRL 360, Monday the 7th of April, with hosts Braith Anasta and Dan Ginnane.
NRL 360 hosts Braith Anasta and Dan Ginnane are joined by Buzz Rothfield and Brent Read to debate all the controversial topics to come out of Round 5 including the game-sealing forward pass, Latrell's possible move to the halves, and the Roosters' recent recruitment.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome to three sixty rad League from every angle, brought
to you by the new Ranger plug in hybrid. Joining me,
Dan Ganan, let's be in the journal, Australian Buzzerrod Field
and Brent Reed.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Gordon Tallas. He's on a bit of a holiday, Dan,
so you're back off the bench.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
So what it's proving Gordon's time off is proving a
little lucrative my mind joint?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Really yeah, pay purpose.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Look, no, I don't discuss my.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Journals. That's true.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
I already keep sending me text messages from wherever it is,
some beach front place in Queensland. Yeah, it's very annoying.
The last one I told him where to go.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
Oh lucky Gordon, So you'd have to go with something
annoying texts.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Oh wow, he's already started.
Speaker 7 (00:56):
You're ringing your at a every Sunday morning. Get a
fank and dead tsion I'm getting at that time.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
That's an accusation in a weekend full of controversies, which
we'll get to there with some big absorty box office
office moments.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Sorry that sent League fans into meltdown.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
They're almost back at the halfway line, but they're short
on tackles and they're very short on time.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Here's young shows it into the backfield to hide.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
He's got a piece of him back to strange.
Speaker 8 (01:33):
Now smithies goops are going.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Here's savage midfield.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Watch him go.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
He puts a kick in.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
A chat for typical.
Speaker 8 (01:42):
It sits up weeks has it come back to the sunny.
Speaker 9 (01:47):
They came to the line.
Speaker 8 (01:49):
The Raiders pull out a.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Green machine special.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Ad lib radfielding and it's very best.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You say, you've seen what this club is about in
that last minute and a half, you've seen what this
club is built on.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
The sasser up shallow.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Mitchell throws all.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Water, shoven water stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
That is remarkable.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
That is a past very few in our game control. Incredible,
a troll Bitchell coaching career.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It's in the green Fly.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I can tell you they've they overcome what they overcome
the night they gets called it football team, that was
it was pretty special.
Speaker 8 (02:28):
He's right in front Zach Lomax to head the first
win of the second head up right and went through
the former Dragon hands his coach, another former Dragon the
first wins as PARAMOUNTA Reels in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, it's tough one, and I guess the emotional over
I just see so much effort and so much codes,
and there's so many young blades.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
In our team, and you know those are disappointing. Thing
about the start of the year, it's there's a lot
of the times are we just go stick at it?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So many magical moments over the weekend. Everyone was mesmerized
by the past that stopped the nation.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Buzz. But was it forward or not?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I have got absolutely no doubt it was forward. But
it was great play by Latrell. It was adventurous, it
was a game changer.
Speaker 9 (03:20):
It's forward, that's its not it's a forward past, Brent.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
It's not if you, Brent, if you pass the ball
metal line, that's where his feet were, and he stopped
and he catches it four meters downfield.
Speaker 9 (03:34):
Task, it's forward.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Can we get Nick text up? So buzz? It's simple,
this is buzz. So you tweeted this after the game.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Now that's where Latrell throws the pass, which is on
the line, and this is where Task catches the ball,
which is i'd say about two and a half three
meters he said five. But okay, so this is Nick Pappas,
the chairman of the South Indi Rabbitos and his response,
let me step in here, pheel physics one oh one.
(04:04):
If a player has forward velocity, that velocity is transferred
to the ball, i e.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The ball will move forward relative to the ground.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Or throw or throw a ball backwards from a moving car,
the ball will move forward relative to the road.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Phil, that's simple, simples.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Can I just say this, Nick Pappus is a great lawyer,
My goodness he Look it was a forward pass.
Speaker 10 (04:33):
It's out of the hands. It doesn't matter what the
ball does after it leaves the hands. A forward pass
is dictated whether it goes forward or backwards out of
the hands, and that clearly clearly goes backwards.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Out of his head.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I want to pressure on this ready a little bit now,
La Mitchell generational talent is and this play is it
really is. It's almost iconic, you know, game on the
line against his old club, rival club. He comes up
with the big play. It's special. But can we just
go back You're saying that without doubt, right this sto
(05:06):
without doubt that that that's going backwards.
Speaker 11 (05:09):
Look at that that is clearly going backwards, really going backwards.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It really so.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Clearly either of you know you can't buzz I said
this to you some radio I slightly leaned towards it
is probably forward, probably sixty.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Forty and haven't let that.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
How are you going to?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
My point?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Is this really I don't want to hear talk of
we've got to bring video technology in on on on
passes like this, the angle on a camera from the
fifty mortle line, you can't make a.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Decision one way or the other on that.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Yeah, And that's why there is not a rule that
allows the bunker to adjudicate, because if they're add a
log and.
Speaker 9 (05:47):
Stop front, we'd be blowing up.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
There was twalk years ago they were going to put
a chip in for like a GPS confirm that. So
I think we're going to have to live with decisions
like that. And I can guarantee you we'll see instance
that Brook fail call combak Penrith every ground identical pass
and more than half will be called back.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
We are missing a lot of forward past.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I was about to say, Dan, this is this is
My argument is that if we can look at that
and probably say it weren't a little bit forward, but
there were three or four other passes in that game
that were forward forward.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
It doesn't matter how far forward forward.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So if you want to go back and look and
dissect the game and pick at the pieces, there were
quite a few, but this was a big moment, you know,
and the touch judge was right there.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
But a lot of people disagree with you. Buzz I
sixty forty that went backwards? Break if you're alive on
this panel, isn't it? So let's go and that's pulled up,
and so how it's going to lose?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I don't think people are blowing up the way people
are blowing up. There's no I didn't call it in
the commentary because I was more fixated ones to be
honest and getting you called.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
The game right? So everyone was so men'smerized by the play.
We're looking at Isaiah TAS's foot as it touched the sideline.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
What to pass?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
It was from Latrell, Latrell's first game back, He's throwing
the match winner against his old club. Were people that
mesmerized by the play that maybe they just missed the pop?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I think, honestly grat yes.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
But don't you think it's also because it wasn't an
obvious forward passing.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Very's only know what I'm saying. The reason wasn't picked
up in the commentary.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Like for example, I think there was one of the
Rooster's game the other day that went a mile forward.
Everyone not this game. I think it was a weak
game last week. Everyone picked it up straight away. The
story you can see from Angus Crime's reaction went forward
right this one. No one thought it was forward, and
he watched the forty three players.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Were turned around and was sort of saying it was
for Latrell does a.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Great job as running forward too, so he's in front
of the ball, which is what most great players do.
He can feel sometimes and you're thinking, oh, as this
is touching going, You're looking at the referee and you're
hoping he lets it go.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But let me ask you, because you know about passing
on the Nick Pappas the science guys theory, he lost me.
Did you think he had that much moment into into
the past because he wasn't running a full throttle the
trail and he was running more sideways from forwards. Does
he have forward momentum he can?
Speaker 6 (08:08):
I just point out that's actually not Nick Papa's theory.
That's actually a physical physics. It's a nurser, is what
it's called.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
The nurser. It's not Nick has physics.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
What I wrote this morning, whether it was forward or not,
it was a beautiful bit of rugby lead by looking
hand was I'm not that with the game on the line,
he took a risk there and did descent and I
love players who will be risky.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Are you on the bus or off the butt?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
He also told his teammates after the game that he
noticed Dom Young was a little bit tired, and there
was he read that situation.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Perfectly did picked him. That's why I called him a
generational talent.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
There's not many players that not only would execute that
play or even try that play.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
But I love.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Especially he had a couple of shocking players in the game,
but yet it never stops his confidence.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
He knew in that moment there's not many that would
have the stones to do what he did there.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
He put a couple of kicks into touch on the
full right, and that would shatter the confidence of a
lot of players right at the death, game on the line.
Past of the year, whether it's backwards or forward.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I think it was his night because a couple of
those those drop kicks too. That leaned on the try
line about ten you sometimes.
Speaker 9 (09:31):
But you get that day.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
It would have shattered a lot of guys and they
wouldn't have been prepared to take another risk like he did.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Fair point all right, Now he's moving a five eighth.
That's official by not.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Well, it's not official yet but it probably will be tomorrow.
He trained there today and Lewis Dodd's unavailable. He got
I don't think Lewis doud would have been there anyway,
but he's unavailable. He's got charged and you said last
couple of crusher, so I believe he'll be unavailable. And
it looks like the Traivel plays six and I think
I think it's a great call. Lewis he would have
in the squad, but extended.
Speaker 11 (10:01):
Squad, but played very well last why he gave him
a wrap up The game was a bit slow to
get into the game, but he come up with that
crucial line break passed back on the inside the grave
which changed the game.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So Sullivan and Latrell.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
That's a that's a that's a very talented seven and
six and when they're on, they will be on. But
I don't think of you know, game management and control.
But you've got to I suppose play to you what
you got in front of you. And they're both dangerous players.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I guess you'll find out to Morrows, Kempbell Graham back.
So they're going to be short of.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Sen Johnston's back and you and Akens back, right. I
think you and Will playing the centers. Johnston, do you
like it?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I mean, you can play Latrella three, you can play,
but one you can play.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I think I think.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
See Whyton doesn't want to play there. It seems because
he actually did a very good job for them last year.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
He did, He's done a great job in the past
as a fire a for Cambra.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Like it's a fair point.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
And Jason Demetro today about obviously coach Latrell, and he's
always had a view that Latrol can be a world
CU class five eight good kicking game. We saw his
passing game before big body in defense reduced his work
workload as opposed to playing fullback. He says, you know,
he's always had a high opinion of.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Latrolloy Patrol is good anywhere, if not great, And I
think he'll do a really good job, then I'm happy
with him at five. I think it's a good decision
and see how Bud goes alongside of him, exciting for
the Bunnies. But the real test is over the next
few weeks they've got the Dogs and the Storm.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Really yeah, yeah, well that will be a test given
the way those two sides are going. But you know,
I mean, I think Wayne has succeeded exceeding a lot
of expectations already, so you know, he's obviously really happy
with the way they're playing. The player we saw at
the weekend. They're playing for each other, which is one
of the things Wayne always instills in these footing teams.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I wouldn't rule them out in those two games.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Ready, The big question mark is going to be good
Friday sixty thousand at a care Bulldogs going gang Bustards
half by going to be very hard to be.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
That's a big Cody's going.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
To miss two. We've got that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
This could have been worse for sous Humphreys four. That's
that's it's unlucky for him, and was six. But Cody,
you for that's only two. That's not that bad, not
as bad as it could have been.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
All hamstring injuries too. It's a lot of hammies this year.
It's interesting. I've got nothing you're going to come up with.
I thought you're going to come up with some sort
of hams.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Like I don't ask questions and the answer to like
you do. Brewster's a language in sixteenth position.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Buzz. What is happening at the Chucks.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Well, there's going to be some major selection news and
that in that Chad Townsend it's going to be dropped
from the side for this weekend. I put a stat
in the paper last week, no runs, no meters and
he was disappointing again on the weekend. And look, he's
a cheap halfbacker they bought in the stop gap, but
he hasn't named up. There's one really telling statistic. The
(13:03):
Roosters have not scored one try from a kick this year,
not one try. Now, to give you an idea, nineteen
percent of tries scored in the game come from kicks.
The Broncos have scored thirty three percent of their tries
this year from the boot of Adam Reynolds. And without
(13:25):
Sam Walker, who is one of those beautiful players close
to the line, grubbers, chips, bombs, the Roosters have got nothing,
not one try they've scored nineteen and it's all been
hands on the football. And so I'm told Hugo Savilla
will play this week. Who played against Penrith. He's a book.
(13:46):
He's bagmen at Ramdmick Races at the championship, so he
might have to have the afternoon off there.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
He's a local boy for we've seen him play. He's
played a couple of games.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
He played, we know him that Penrith game he came
on but he's got as a back rower just to
fill a role at the.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
End of the game. Yeah, he's a big boy.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
There's another change there, Brave. I'm told Dom Young is
facing the chop. Probably misread Latrell passed. Everyone's been a
bit able to form.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
What I don't disagree with that, I think you know
and is probably have a bit of a breather and
freshen up and a few few poor reeds and under
the high ball. He's been a little bit suss. I
think he's got some there to get himself back to
his best. He's great and open space and he's a
good finisher. But he got a few things wrong on
the weekend and he has the past month.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
So now driving over here, this afternoon. I practiced his pronunciation.
No one a tea, Right, I'm not going to try again.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
But he's back. That's a good idea, and they're going
to they.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Want to keep Billy Smith and send us, so they'll
probably play market Park on the Wig.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Quickly on Townsend. He wasn't brought to the club to
be a starting half. He really was a stop gap, right, Yeah,
so it's been hard. It's hard for him to come
in and then all of a sudden you're the chief playmaker.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Well he was brought in the back up Sam Walker
and Sam Smith and then Sam Walker after he was signed,
Sam Walker's knee went, so he's probably been forced into
action before they expected. He's probably be news more than
they expected it to be used. But that's not to
excuse his form. And he hasn't been good Chad through
the opening fire, let's be honest about it. But you know,
(15:27):
I feel a bit sorry for I thought it's sorry
for the club and the sense that they've had to
rely on him more than they thought they would have to,
and they made a lot of mistakes the chalks, which
is well, we're going to get in I don't want
to jump the run sheet.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
But what I want to say to start off with,
I have that much respect for Nick Polidis and Trent
Robinson who together had won thirteen pre three premierships in
fourteen years. But yeah, but there's been some horrible recruitment there.
And I'm starting at this an academy club that allegedly
bring shown players through.
Speaker 9 (16:02):
You know, they had Jacob.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Presston there and Jacob and they wouldn't give him the
development and that one Robbos or Nick's court the recruitment people.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Jacob, who's a manly junior, You're going to have a
manly for letting him go as well.
Speaker 9 (16:16):
He played s G ball, lives.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
On the Northern Beaches.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Well I don't know how he finished up at the Roosters,
but he was there on the eve of n RL career.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
Ethan strange. We rate him.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I love another boy who was in the Rooster system
didn't hang on to him.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Every club loses players, you know that happens at every club.
You can go through every club and you could find
two or three blogs that they've lost over the years
to come back to haunt you every club occasion gets
one wrong.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
To start giving me some examples well, you know, you've
just yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You've just.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
Crap on my get where I'm trying to.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Have deli chair. Evans isn't from Manly, He's from Queensland.
There's one for you.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Not as I said, you know, the Rooster's recruit We're
going to be fed incre it hadn't been great. I
don't think we've still had a reasonable explanation for the
departure of Terrell.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
May do you agree? I agree with your buzz. I'm
not disagreeing with you to do you agree they gave
it cultual issues.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
They explain that well, Toperno left because they are in
the midst of signing day for Feeder.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Which is the big problem. Really, it's the big fish
that they haven't been able.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
To learn for the last couple of years that exacerbates
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Buzz is not far off the market in a lot
of ways. We've spoken about it quite a bit. You know,
for the.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
First time in a long time, the Roosters have got
their recruitment wrong numbers. You know, we gave back to
Brandon Smith and we go back to letting certain players
go and you know, I'm a Roosters fair never knows
how close. I am to Nick, but we sit here,
we're going to tell it how we see. It's got
it right.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Just quickly on that.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
And Chady was on the show and he's a champion
bloke and he's been a champion player. But when they
bought him, it was like why, I don't even care
if he was a backup. He's one of your younger
kids coming through. He was you know, I'm not surprised
anyone surprised with what's happened there, the way he's performed
this year. It was anyone surprised with what happened to
Brandon Smith. I wasn't, you know, like they thought.
Speaker 9 (18:32):
They had Ben Harten.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
I was surprised by Brandon Smith, but that doesn't really
good football left Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, but he wasn't a nine in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
They don't get he wasn't what.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
You're talking about the.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Names they keep missing out on. There was a period ten, fifteen,
twenty years I didn't miss out.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
On anyone if the roosters wanted someone, and that's where
the sombrero jokes started.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Now there are more misses than hits at the moment.
That's the big concern.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
Well, DC, he might change that guys, but not that
they're giving in it.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's big, you know, because everyone's saying he's going there
and off the back of your point there he.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Will be the one they do. Let that big feat too.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
What about Walker? He's going to sit for his return?
When does he return?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It is around July.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
But I mean, if you're if you're if there are
season's over, boy comes July August. I'm not sure what
would you're risking? Whyould you let him have the rest
of the year off? Getting right twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Six when you're supposed to return? I think it's around July,
isn't it. That's one of the dumbest things I've heard
in my life. So you're saying, you're saying, where it is?
Speaker 9 (19:41):
Can I throw the right power on top of it?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Here we go? Here we go. They're out of finals
contention and.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
A half back and they've got to finish the season.
Even if they're out of finals contention with some respect
and a decent position on the lad put.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
Your half Do you put him at risk? They won't
bring him back?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
How do you? So, let's be honest. You know what,
you don't have an opinion?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You think by then they're going to be out of Yes,
you think they'll still be in contingent?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Do you think they will be a right off by then?
Completely right off? That's what you think. Do you think
they will be in finals contention? So irrelevant to that, No,
that's what you're asking me. That's what we came. I
think I wouldn't say they're going to be completely out
of it. No, I think there'll be one in seven
in two weeks, okay, six? So what do you do?
They still in finals one and six?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
You think they're still going to be in finals Contentionale,
I don't really care.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
If that's a difficult player, Walker, I still playing.
Speaker 9 (20:35):
When you go to your members and say, and you
go to your sponsor.
Speaker 11 (20:40):
Members and player, we haven't scored try and you also
think she let Brandon Smith go too early?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Why wouldn't you so hang on? What would you keep
your best players in your team? You just said Brent
Brandon's not a good fit for the club. You said
that nine he's a thirty. Okay, Well they've got enough back.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
If he's available, I'm playing him, are you?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
No? I'm saying, souse, do you if they.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Both come back with nine rounds to play and they
get Psmith and Walker back and win eight out of
their ass nine. What happens then it may not matter
the way they're going, bro, What do you mean they
might be going eight out of nine games? They have
won enough probably to be on the edge of the eight.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Edge of the eight to press the eight. Probably not know?
Are you notred? They're one in six and two weeks?
You know what's going to happen next month?
Speaker 9 (21:30):
This is it's a waste of time. It's solid, it
is obvious.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Are you saying there a chance of making the finals
with the two?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
With those two players, maybe I'm not saying they're going to,
but I'm not going to rest them or throw one
of them away, not playing my best player.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
What if Brandon, If Souse wanted to take Brandon and
you can save yourself three undred grand the salary cap,
what would you keep your.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Keep you around? You hate them, but here he's a
chance to win. You get something out of it. Though.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
I think this season anyway, the Rusters have responsibility.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
You can use pay money forward and use it the
next year.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
That the Roosters have a responsibility to the game to
put the best side in the park and I've explained
they can't score a triple mckick. Sam Walker is a
million dollar player. To suggest they should rest him is
outrageously silly. And I've been kind to you, Okay, fair enough,
Yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Really you've got to play.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Dan, I've enjoyed all of this.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Was about. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
That's the scariest you've ever seen. I've ever seen you.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I've seen you. Let's go to something a bit more
less controversial.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
The NRL follows high contacts in how they go on
the weekend. With this, the high tackles.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
It took a bit of time to get their head around,
and I think bra by the end of the weekend,
I think they were they's just about got to play.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
That's where you're wrong, That's where you're wrong going to hit.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Because Friday, Thursday, Friday, they were over zealous. We had
tiki tac things like Hudson Young and I still don't
know what Isaac Tuger got centered to the sinbin for
and Rhys Robson okay, sinbin careless grade one, careless grade one,
no charge among the three players on Thursday Friday, Okay,
(23:22):
none of them.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Should have been centered the sinbin.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
So these were that One's had a little bit more forced,
but still careless grade.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
One, so no suspension.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Once we got to Saturday, they started to get it right. Tino,
ray Stone, Brendan Peterkore were all careless grade two and
you knew Braith watching they were all.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Worthy of being Synbins right.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
So I think by Saturday this was these were correct interpretations.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
The only problem with.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Tino was it was early in the game, very early,
and they had to pull it back. That's why everyone
was a bit witted out by but it was the
absolute correct core.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
And then we get to Sunday.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I'm moving ahead of the pictures here because these are
the Saturday calls Corey Wdell, so we've gone from the
extra Corey Woddell absolutely wax was a tyrant wish. Here
it is and you have a look at it, and
you know, and look at it. He knows he's done
the wrong thing. You look at the replay, it's an
obvious suspension coming.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
My theory is, if you know it's going to be
a suspension, and.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I think we're all fairly confident we can pick what's
going to get about.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
It's the worst decision of the weekend and that.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
So we went from the sublime of the all the
tiki tas early in the week to the ridiculous of
not sending off the one that should have been sent
off in the middle.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
It was good.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
I'll show some stats at you.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
There are thirty two penalties blind for high shots on
the weekend and six sinbins.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
Okay, a high shots.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Now, I would rather the over correction than what I
saw the previous weekend with four terrible high shots that
were not acted on and forced the NRALD to remind
the referees and the clubs of the rules. I'm all
about protecting the safety of the players and high shots.
(25:13):
I think it will settle down after what we saw
this weekend.
Speaker 9 (25:17):
But I think they've just about got it right.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Come on, you're going to send Tanguel off.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (25:24):
I said, they've just about got it.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So we had ADO on direct forceful mitigating circumstances. Now
that's there's a gray area though with the force. Is
it moderate, is it light, is it whatever, forceful, whatever
you want to call it. A lot of the referees
we're saying moderate force. I don't know what the definition
of moderate is. And that's where it gets murky. I
think common sense comes into play. Like you watch all
(25:50):
these and I reckon, if you showed me the six
of them, I could say, all right, three, yeah, definite,
ten and the bins one questionable.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Two of them are a joke, you.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Know, like to It's quite obvious if I was in
the bunker, and I think most fans would agree the
Tongue all one, even the Robson one shouldn't. Shouldn't have
been ten in the bin, you know, even the Hudson
Young Yeah, you know, I could kind of accept that one.
But how forceful was it? Hudson was kind of he
knew he was about to make contact.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
He tried to pull out of it. He was kind
of coming backwards as he hit him.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
He sort of leans backwards at the end there, you know,
Like as I said, I'm okay with this one, really,
But there's a couple of hours and that's that's that's
what we've got to get rid of the house. Like
I except that there there's going to be hard to
know the science of what force players.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
You're always going to have somehow's breath because humans are involved,
humans make blues.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
You're always going to have some hours. Really, yes you will,
we shouldn't.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
You shouldn't win, I know, but you also got people
operating the bunker. People make mistakes. They will make mistakes,
but I'm talking hours. Yes, they will make house. But
because how long have we been talking about rugby league,
they can they do it everything all the time.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
That's the one who in their right mind would think
that's turning the big.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Well, the blaker was in the buns. Do you think
next week, if it happens, will.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
Yeah, you mess it.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
You keep going on about that tackle.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
The one was the worst.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
You say, and what I'm saying to you, you're saying
there's human error. Of course, there's human err and some
things are a bit subjective. There is no other person on
this planet outside whoever made that decision the bunker who
wouldn't have thought that is a so that that was
more than human say, that was a massive blin I'm
not saying and you know what we're like, it was
(27:41):
a forty eight twenty scoreline.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
It wasn't all.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
I'm not saying it's acceptable. I just think it's going
to happen from time to time in the game.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
But it shouldn't. I know, it shouldn't. But what I'm
saying is is, how do we not learn from this
like they will?
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Because next week they won't make the hopefully they don't
make the same mistake, but it's some point d in
the year they will.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That's okay if it happens once every few years, but
not like this, And you know, like that's ambitious.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Start how many different video refs we have? So the
first two games it was Climb and something in the
in the Bunker, running the bunker. Then on Saturday g
and Klin the games I'm talking about, and then Casey
Badger after and they all have obviously.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
A different interpretation.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yesterday Casey Badger, I think it was Casey Badger.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
But the point is different people, different interpretations. I'm starting
to believe maybe a maximum of three people, because.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
You've got to do the Saturday games. You can't have
a person do multiple games. It's not the easiest gig.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
But if we can limit it to three people for
that specific job of running the bunker over the four days,
I think you've.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Got some contest like that.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, I do like that, Yeah, I think, but the
enneral have a minute that they've they got the Woodo
one wrong and I'm not sure they've admitted any hell,
but I think moving forward we will get more consistency.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
I think they'll learn from the tongue or one.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I'm hoping and hopefully there are no more mistakes. General
stick around and following n L three sixty, another blockbuster
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Welcome to three sixty rad League from every angle, brought
to you by the new Ranger plug in hybrid. Joining me,
Dan Ganan, let's be in the journal, Australian Buzzerrod Field
and Brent Reed.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Gordon Tallas. He's on a bit of a holiday, Dan,
so you're back off the bench.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
So what it's proving Gordon's time off is proving a
little lucrative my mind joint?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Really yeah, pay purpose.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Look, no, I don't discuss my.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Journals. That's true.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
I already keep sending me text messages from wherever it is,
some beach front place in Queensland. Yeah, it's very annoying.
The last one I told him where to go.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
Oh lucky Gordon, So you'd have to go with something
annoying texts.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Oh wow, he's already started.
Speaker 7 (00:56):
You're ringing your at a every Sunday morning. Get a
fank and dead tsion I'm getting at that time.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
That's an accusation in a weekend full of controversies, which
we'll get to there with some big absorty box office
office moments.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Sorry that sent League fans into meltdown.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
They're almost back at the halfway line, but they're short
on tackles and they're very short on time.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Here's young shows it into the backfield to hide.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
He's got a piece of him back to strange.
Speaker 8 (01:33):
Now smithies goops are going.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Here's savage midfield.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Watch him go.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
He puts a kick in.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
A chat for typical.
Speaker 8 (01:42):
It sits up weeks has it come back to the sunny.
Speaker 9 (01:47):
They came to the line.
Speaker 8 (01:49):
The Raiders pull out a.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Green machine special.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Ad lib radfielding and it's very best.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You say, you've seen what this club is about in
that last minute and a half, you've seen what this
club is built on.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
The sasser up shallow.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Mitchell throws all.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Water, shoven water stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
That is remarkable.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
That is a past very few in our game control. Incredible,
a troll Bitchell coaching career.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It's in the green Fly.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I can tell you they've they overcome what they overcome
the night they gets called it football team, that was
it was pretty special.
Speaker 8 (02:28):
He's right in front Zach Lomax to head the first
win of the second head up right and went through
the former Dragon hands his coach, another former Dragon the
first wins as PARAMOUNTA Reels in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, it's tough one, and I guess the emotional over
I just see so much effort and so much codes,
and there's so many young blades.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
In our team, and you know those are disappointing. Thing
about the start of the year, it's there's a lot
of the times are we just go stick at it?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So many magical moments over the weekend. Everyone was mesmerized
by the past that stopped the nation.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Buzz. But was it forward or not?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I have got absolutely no doubt it was forward. But
it was great play by Latrell. It was adventurous, it
was a game changer.
Speaker 9 (03:20):
It's forward, that's its not it's a forward past, Brent.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
It's not if you, Brent, if you pass the ball
metal line, that's where his feet were, and he stopped
and he catches it four meters downfield.
Speaker 9 (03:34):
Task, it's forward.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Can we get Nick text up? So buzz? It's simple,
this is buzz. So you tweeted this after the game.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Now that's where Latrell throws the pass, which is on
the line, and this is where Task catches the ball,
which is i'd say about two and a half three
meters he said five. But okay, so this is Nick Pappas,
the chairman of the South Indi Rabbitos and his response,
let me step in here, pheel physics one oh one.
(04:04):
If a player has forward velocity, that velocity is transferred
to the ball, i e.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The ball will move forward relative to the ground.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Or throw or throw a ball backwards from a moving car,
the ball will move forward relative to the road.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Phil, that's simple, simples.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Can I just say this, Nick Pappus is a great lawyer,
My goodness he Look it was a forward pass.
Speaker 10 (04:33):
It's out of the hands. It doesn't matter what the
ball does after it leaves the hands. A forward pass
is dictated whether it goes forward or backwards out of
the hands, and that clearly clearly goes backwards.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Out of his head.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I want to pressure on this ready a little bit now,
La Mitchell generational talent is and this play is it
really is. It's almost iconic, you know, game on the
line against his old club, rival club. He comes up
with the big play. It's special. But can we just
go back You're saying that without doubt, right this sto
(05:06):
without doubt that that that's going backwards.
Speaker 11 (05:09):
Look at that that is clearly going backwards, really going backwards.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It really so.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Clearly either of you know you can't buzz I said
this to you some radio I slightly leaned towards it
is probably forward, probably sixty.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Forty and haven't let that.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
How are you going to?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
My point?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Is this really I don't want to hear talk of
we've got to bring video technology in on on on
passes like this, the angle on a camera from the
fifty mortle line, you can't make a.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Decision one way or the other on that.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Yeah, And that's why there is not a rule that
allows the bunker to adjudicate, because if they're add a
log and.
Speaker 9 (05:47):
Stop front, we'd be blowing up.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
There was twalk years ago they were going to put
a chip in for like a GPS confirm that. So
I think we're going to have to live with decisions
like that. And I can guarantee you we'll see instance
that Brook fail call combak Penrith every ground identical pass
and more than half will be called back.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
We are missing a lot of forward past.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I was about to say, Dan, this is this is
My argument is that if we can look at that
and probably say it weren't a little bit forward, but
there were three or four other passes in that game
that were forward forward.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
It doesn't matter how far forward forward.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So if you want to go back and look and
dissect the game and pick at the pieces, there were
quite a few, but this was a big moment, you know,
and the touch judge was right there.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
But a lot of people disagree with you. Buzz I
sixty forty that went backwards? Break if you're alive on
this panel, isn't it? So let's go and that's pulled up,
and so how it's going to lose?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I don't think people are blowing up the way people
are blowing up. There's no I didn't call it in
the commentary because I was more fixated ones to be
honest and getting you called.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
The game right? So everyone was so men'smerized by the play.
We're looking at Isaiah TAS's foot as it touched the sideline.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
What to pass?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
It was from Latrell, Latrell's first game back, He's throwing
the match winner against his old club. Were people that
mesmerized by the play that maybe they just missed the pop?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I think, honestly grat yes.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
But don't you think it's also because it wasn't an
obvious forward passing.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Very's only know what I'm saying. The reason wasn't picked
up in the commentary.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Like for example, I think there was one of the
Rooster's game the other day that went a mile forward.
Everyone not this game. I think it was a weak
game last week. Everyone picked it up straight away. The
story you can see from Angus Crime's reaction went forward
right this one. No one thought it was forward, and
he watched the forty three players.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Were turned around and was sort of saying it was
for Latrell does a.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Great job as running forward too, so he's in front
of the ball, which is what most great players do.
He can feel sometimes and you're thinking, oh, as this
is touching going, You're looking at the referee and you're
hoping he lets it go.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But let me ask you, because you know about passing
on the Nick Pappas the science guys theory, he lost me.
Did you think he had that much moment into into
the past because he wasn't running a full throttle the
trail and he was running more sideways from forwards. Does
he have forward momentum he can?
Speaker 6 (08:08):
I just point out that's actually not Nick Papa's theory.
That's actually a physical physics. It's a nurser, is what
it's called.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
The nurser. It's not Nick has physics.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
What I wrote this morning, whether it was forward or not,
it was a beautiful bit of rugby lead by looking
hand was I'm not that with the game on the line,
he took a risk there and did descent and I
love players who will be risky.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Are you on the bus or off the butt?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
He also told his teammates after the game that he
noticed Dom Young was a little bit tired, and there
was he read that situation.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Perfectly did picked him. That's why I called him a
generational talent.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
There's not many players that not only would execute that
play or even try that play.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
But I love.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Especially he had a couple of shocking players in the game,
but yet it never stops his confidence.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
He knew in that moment there's not many that would
have the stones to do what he did there.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
He put a couple of kicks into touch on the
full right, and that would shatter the confidence of a
lot of players right at the death, game on the line.
Past of the year, whether it's backwards or forward.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I think it was his night because a couple of
those those drop kicks too. That leaned on the try
line about ten you sometimes.
Speaker 9 (09:31):
But you get that day.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
It would have shattered a lot of guys and they
wouldn't have been prepared to take another risk like he did.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Fair point all right, Now he's moving a five eighth.
That's official by not.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Well, it's not official yet but it probably will be tomorrow.
He trained there today and Lewis Dodd's unavailable. He got
I don't think Lewis doud would have been there anyway,
but he's unavailable. He's got charged and you said last
couple of crusher, so I believe he'll be unavailable. And
it looks like the Traivel plays six and I think
I think it's a great call. Lewis he would have
in the squad, but extended.
Speaker 11 (10:01):
Squad, but played very well last why he gave him
a wrap up The game was a bit slow to
get into the game, but he come up with that
crucial line break passed back on the inside the grave
which changed the game.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So Sullivan and Latrell.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
That's a that's a that's a very talented seven and
six and when they're on, they will be on. But
I don't think of you know, game management and control.
But you've got to I suppose play to you what
you got in front of you. And they're both dangerous players.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I guess you'll find out to Morrows, Kempbell Graham back.
So they're going to be short of.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Sen Johnston's back and you and Akens back, right. I
think you and Will playing the centers. Johnston, do you
like it?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I mean, you can play Latrella three, you can play,
but one you can play.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I think I think.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
See Whyton doesn't want to play there. It seems because
he actually did a very good job for them last year.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
He did, He's done a great job in the past
as a fire a for Cambra.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Like it's a fair point.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
And Jason Demetro today about obviously coach Latrell, and he's
always had a view that Latrol can be a world
CU class five eight good kicking game. We saw his
passing game before big body in defense reduced his work
workload as opposed to playing fullback. He says, you know,
he's always had a high opinion of.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Latrolloy Patrol is good anywhere, if not great, And I
think he'll do a really good job, then I'm happy
with him at five. I think it's a good decision
and see how Bud goes alongside of him, exciting for
the Bunnies. But the real test is over the next
few weeks they've got the Dogs and the Storm.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Really yeah, yeah, well that will be a test given
the way those two sides are going. But you know,
I mean, I think Wayne has succeeded exceeding a lot
of expectations already, so you know, he's obviously really happy
with the way they're playing. The player we saw at
the weekend. They're playing for each other, which is one
of the things Wayne always instills in these footing teams.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I wouldn't rule them out in those two games.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Ready, The big question mark is going to be good
Friday sixty thousand at a care Bulldogs going gang Bustards
half by going to be very hard to be.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
That's a big Cody's going.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
To miss two. We've got that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
This could have been worse for sous Humphreys four. That's
that's it's unlucky for him, and was six. But Cody,
you for that's only two. That's not that bad, not
as bad as it could have been.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
All hamstring injuries too. It's a lot of hammies this year.
It's interesting. I've got nothing you're going to come up with.
I thought you're going to come up with some sort
of hams.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Like I don't ask questions and the answer to like
you do. Brewster's a language in sixteenth position.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Buzz. What is happening at the Chucks.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Well, there's going to be some major selection news and
that in that Chad Townsend it's going to be dropped
from the side for this weekend. I put a stat
in the paper last week, no runs, no meters and
he was disappointing again on the weekend. And look, he's
a cheap halfbacker they bought in the stop gap, but
he hasn't named up. There's one really telling statistic. The
(13:03):
Roosters have not scored one try from a kick this year,
not one try. Now, to give you an idea, nineteen
percent of tries scored in the game come from kicks.
The Broncos have scored thirty three percent of their tries
this year from the boot of Adam Reynolds. And without
(13:25):
Sam Walker, who is one of those beautiful players close
to the line, grubbers, chips, bombs, the Roosters have got nothing,
not one try they've scored nineteen and it's all been
hands on the football. And so I'm told Hugo Savilla
will play this week. Who played against Penrith. He's a book.
(13:46):
He's bagmen at Ramdmick Races at the championship, so he
might have to have the afternoon off there.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
He's a local boy for we've seen him play. He's
played a couple of games.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
He played, we know him that Penrith game he came
on but he's got as a back rower just to
fill a role at the.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
End of the game. Yeah, he's a big boy.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
There's another change there, Brave. I'm told Dom Young is
facing the chop. Probably misread Latrell passed. Everyone's been a
bit able to form.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
What I don't disagree with that, I think you know
and is probably have a bit of a breather and
freshen up and a few few poor reeds and under
the high ball. He's been a little bit suss. I
think he's got some there to get himself back to
his best. He's great and open space and he's a
good finisher. But he got a few things wrong on
the weekend and he has the past month.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
So now driving over here, this afternoon. I practiced his pronunciation.
No one a tea, Right, I'm not going to try again.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
But he's back. That's a good idea, and they're going
to they.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Want to keep Billy Smith and send us, so they'll
probably play market Park on the Wig.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Quickly on Townsend. He wasn't brought to the club to
be a starting half. He really was a stop gap, right, Yeah,
so it's been hard. It's hard for him to come
in and then all of a sudden you're the chief playmaker.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Well he was brought in the back up Sam Walker
and Sam Smith and then Sam Walker after he was signed,
Sam Walker's knee went, so he's probably been forced into
action before they expected. He's probably be news more than
they expected it to be used. But that's not to
excuse his form. And he hasn't been good Chad through
the opening fire, let's be honest about it. But you know,
(15:27):
I feel a bit sorry for I thought it's sorry
for the club and the sense that they've had to
rely on him more than they thought they would have to,
and they made a lot of mistakes the chalks, which
is well, we're going to get in I don't want
to jump the run sheet.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
But what I want to say to start off with,
I have that much respect for Nick Polidis and Trent
Robinson who together had won thirteen pre three premierships in
fourteen years. But yeah, but there's been some horrible recruitment there.
And I'm starting at this an academy club that allegedly
bring shown players through.
Speaker 9 (16:02):
You know, they had Jacob.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Presston there and Jacob and they wouldn't give him the
development and that one Robbos or Nick's court the recruitment people.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Jacob, who's a manly junior, You're going to have a
manly for letting him go as well.
Speaker 9 (16:16):
He played s G ball, lives.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
On the Northern Beaches.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Well I don't know how he finished up at the Roosters,
but he was there on the eve of n RL career.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
Ethan strange. We rate him.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I love another boy who was in the Rooster system
didn't hang on to him.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Every club loses players, you know that happens at every club.
You can go through every club and you could find
two or three blogs that they've lost over the years
to come back to haunt you every club occasion gets
one wrong.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
To start giving me some examples well, you know, you've
just yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You've just.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
Crap on my get where I'm trying to.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Have deli chair. Evans isn't from Manly, He's from Queensland.
There's one for you.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Not as I said, you know, the Rooster's recruit We're
going to be fed incre it hadn't been great. I
don't think we've still had a reasonable explanation for the
departure of Terrell.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
May do you agree? I agree with your buzz. I'm
not disagreeing with you to do you agree they gave
it cultual issues.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
They explain that well, Toperno left because they are in
the midst of signing day for Feeder.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Which is the big problem. Really, it's the big fish
that they haven't been able.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
To learn for the last couple of years that exacerbates
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Buzz is not far off the market in a lot
of ways. We've spoken about it quite a bit. You know,
for the.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
First time in a long time, the Roosters have got
their recruitment wrong numbers. You know, we gave back to
Brandon Smith and we go back to letting certain players
go and you know, I'm a Roosters fair never knows
how close. I am to Nick, but we sit here,
we're going to tell it how we see. It's got
it right.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Just quickly on that.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
And Chady was on the show and he's a champion
bloke and he's been a champion player. But when they
bought him, it was like why, I don't even care
if he was a backup. He's one of your younger
kids coming through. He was you know, I'm not surprised
anyone surprised with what's happened there, the way he's performed
this year. It was anyone surprised with what happened to
Brandon Smith. I wasn't, you know, like they thought.
Speaker 9 (18:32):
They had Ben Harten.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
I was surprised by Brandon Smith, but that doesn't really
good football left Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, but he wasn't a nine in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
They don't get he wasn't what.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
You're talking about the.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Names they keep missing out on. There was a period ten, fifteen,
twenty years I didn't miss out.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
On anyone if the roosters wanted someone, and that's where
the sombrero jokes started.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Now there are more misses than hits at the moment.
That's the big concern.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
Well, DC, he might change that guys, but not that
they're giving in it.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's big, you know, because everyone's saying he's going there
and off the back of your point there he.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Will be the one they do. Let that big feat too.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
What about Walker? He's going to sit for his return?
When does he return?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It is around July.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
But I mean, if you're if you're if there are
season's over, boy comes July August. I'm not sure what
would you're risking? Whyould you let him have the rest
of the year off? Getting right twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Six when you're supposed to return? I think it's around July,
isn't it. That's one of the dumbest things I've heard
in my life. So you're saying, you're saying, where it is?
Speaker 9 (19:41):
Can I throw the right power on top of it?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Here we go? Here we go. They're out of finals
contention and.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
A half back and they've got to finish the season.
Even if they're out of finals contention with some respect
and a decent position on the lad put.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
Your half Do you put him at risk? They won't
bring him back?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
How do you? So, let's be honest. You know what,
you don't have an opinion?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You think by then they're going to be out of Yes,
you think they'll still be in contingent?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Do you think they will be a right off by then?
Completely right off? That's what you think. Do you think
they will be in finals contention? So irrelevant to that, No,
that's what you're asking me. That's what we came. I
think I wouldn't say they're going to be completely out
of it. No, I think there'll be one in seven
in two weeks, okay, six? So what do you do?
They still in finals one and six?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
You think they're still going to be in finals Contentionale,
I don't really care.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
If that's a difficult player, Walker, I still playing.
Speaker 9 (20:35):
When you go to your members and say, and you
go to your sponsor.
Speaker 11 (20:40):
Members and player, we haven't scored try and you also
think she let Brandon Smith go too early?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Why wouldn't you so hang on? What would you keep
your best players in your team? You just said Brent
Brandon's not a good fit for the club. You said
that nine he's a thirty. Okay, Well they've got enough back.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
If he's available, I'm playing him, are you?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
No? I'm saying, souse, do you if they.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Both come back with nine rounds to play and they
get Psmith and Walker back and win eight out of
their ass nine. What happens then it may not matter
the way they're going, bro, What do you mean they
might be going eight out of nine games? They have
won enough probably to be on the edge of the eight.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Edge of the eight to press the eight. Probably not know?
Are you notred? They're one in six and two weeks?
You know what's going to happen next month?
Speaker 9 (21:30):
This is it's a waste of time. It's solid, it
is obvious.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Are you saying there a chance of making the finals
with the two?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
With those two players, maybe I'm not saying they're going to,
but I'm not going to rest them or throw one
of them away, not playing my best player.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
What if Brandon, If Souse wanted to take Brandon and
you can save yourself three undred grand the salary cap,
what would you keep your.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Keep you around? You hate them, but here he's a
chance to win. You get something out of it. Though.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
I think this season anyway, the Rusters have responsibility.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
You can use pay money forward and use it the
next year.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
That the Roosters have a responsibility to the game to
put the best side in the park and I've explained
they can't score a triple mckick. Sam Walker is a
million dollar player. To suggest they should rest him is
outrageously silly. And I've been kind to you, Okay, fair enough,
Yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Really you've got to play.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Dan, I've enjoyed all of this.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Was about. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
That's the scariest you've ever seen. I've ever seen you.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I've seen you. Let's go to something a bit more
less controversial.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
The NRL follows high contacts in how they go on
the weekend. With this, the high tackles.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
It took a bit of time to get their head around,
and I think bra by the end of the weekend,
I think they were they's just about got to play.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
That's where you're wrong, That's where you're wrong going to hit.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Because Friday, Thursday, Friday, they were over zealous. We had
tiki tac things like Hudson Young and I still don't
know what Isaac Tuger got centered to the sinbin for
and Rhys Robson okay, sinbin careless grade one, careless grade one,
no charge among the three players on Thursday Friday, Okay,
(23:22):
none of them.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Should have been centered the sinbin.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
So these were that One's had a little bit more forced,
but still careless grade.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
One, so no suspension.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Once we got to Saturday, they started to get it right. Tino,
ray Stone, Brendan Peterkore were all careless grade two and
you knew Braith watching they were all.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Worthy of being Synbins right.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
So I think by Saturday this was these were correct interpretations.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
The only problem with.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Tino was it was early in the game, very early,
and they had to pull it back. That's why everyone
was a bit witted out by but it was the
absolute correct core.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
And then we get to Sunday.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I'm moving ahead of the pictures here because these are
the Saturday calls Corey Wdell, so we've gone from the
extra Corey Woddell absolutely wax was a tyrant wish. Here
it is and you have a look at it, and
you know, and look at it. He knows he's done
the wrong thing. You look at the replay, it's an
obvious suspension coming.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
My theory is, if you know it's going to be
a suspension, and.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I think we're all fairly confident we can pick what's
going to get about.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
It's the worst decision of the weekend and that.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
So we went from the sublime of the all the
tiki tas early in the week to the ridiculous of
not sending off the one that should have been sent
off in the middle.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
It was good.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
I'll show some stats at you.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
There are thirty two penalties blind for high shots on
the weekend and six sinbins.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
Okay, a high shots.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Now, I would rather the over correction than what I
saw the previous weekend with four terrible high shots that
were not acted on and forced the NRALD to remind
the referees and the clubs of the rules. I'm all
about protecting the safety of the players and high shots.
(25:13):
I think it will settle down after what we saw
this weekend.
Speaker 9 (25:17):
But I think they've just about got it right.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Come on, you're going to send Tanguel off.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (25:24):
I said, they've just about got it.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So we had ADO on direct forceful mitigating circumstances. Now
that's there's a gray area though with the force. Is
it moderate, is it light, is it whatever, forceful, whatever
you want to call it. A lot of the referees
we're saying moderate force. I don't know what the definition
of moderate is. And that's where it gets murky. I
think common sense comes into play. Like you watch all
(25:50):
these and I reckon, if you showed me the six
of them, I could say, all right, three, yeah, definite,
ten and the bins one questionable.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Two of them are a joke, you.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Know, like to It's quite obvious if I was in
the bunker, and I think most fans would agree the
Tongue all one, even the Robson one shouldn't. Shouldn't have
been ten in the bin, you know, even the Hudson
Young Yeah, you know, I could kind of accept that one.
But how forceful was it? Hudson was kind of he
knew he was about to make contact.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
He tried to pull out of it. He was kind
of coming backwards as he hit him.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
He sort of leans backwards at the end there, you know,
Like as I said, I'm okay with this one, really,
But there's a couple of hours and that's that's that's
what we've got to get rid of the house. Like
I except that there there's going to be hard to
know the science of what force players.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
You're always going to have somehow's breath because humans are involved,
humans make blues.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
You're always going to have some hours. Really, yes you will,
we shouldn't.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
You shouldn't win, I know, but you also got people
operating the bunker. People make mistakes. They will make mistakes,
but I'm talking hours. Yes, they will make house. But
because how long have we been talking about rugby league,
they can they do it everything all the time.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
That's the one who in their right mind would think
that's turning the big.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Well, the blaker was in the buns. Do you think
next week, if it happens, will.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
Yeah, you mess it.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
You keep going on about that tackle.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
The one was the worst.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
You say, and what I'm saying to you, you're saying
there's human error. Of course, there's human err and some
things are a bit subjective. There is no other person on
this planet outside whoever made that decision the bunker who
wouldn't have thought that is a so that that was
more than human say, that was a massive blin I'm
not saying and you know what we're like, it was
(27:41):
a forty eight twenty scoreline.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
It wasn't all.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
I'm not saying it's acceptable. I just think it's going
to happen from time to time in the game.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
But it shouldn't. I know, it shouldn't. But what I'm
saying is is, how do we not learn from this
like they will?
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Because next week they won't make the hopefully they don't
make the same mistake, but it's some point d in
the year they will.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That's okay if it happens once every few years, but
not like this, And you know, like that's ambitious.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Start how many different video refs we have? So the
first two games it was Climb and something in the
in the Bunker, running the bunker. Then on Saturday g
and Klin the games I'm talking about, and then Casey
Badger after and they all have obviously.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
A different interpretation.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yesterday Casey Badger, I think it was Casey Badger.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
But the point is different people, different interpretations. I'm starting
to believe maybe a maximum of three people, because.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
You've got to do the Saturday games. You can't have
a person do multiple games. It's not the easiest gig.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
But if we can limit it to three people for
that specific job of running the bunker over the four days,
I think you've.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Got some contest like that.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, I do like that, Yeah, I think, but the
enneral have a minute that they've they got the Woodo
one wrong and I'm not sure they've admitted any hell,
but I think moving forward we will get more consistency.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
I think they'll learn from the tongue or one.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I'm hoping and hopefully there are no more mistakes. General
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