Catch up on all the Rugby League news from NRL 360, Monday July 21st, with hosts Braith Anasta and Dan Ginnane.
The boys are joined by Brent Read and Buzz to discuss all the fallout from the Bulldogs clash with the Dragons including Shane Flanagan's blow-up and Lachlan Galvin's showing. The boys also touch on the decision to make Kevin Walters the Kangaroos coach.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to L three sixty Rebu League from Every Angle,
brought to you by Fort Everest joining me, Dan Gane,
Buzz Rothfield and Brent Reed. Dan you're back.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well, it's going to be school holiday somewhere.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Got his busy.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well he's the've got a very watertight contract breath, and
he gets a certain amount of days off.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Mate.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Seriously, this is his third holiday this year.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
You know when the cyclone was supposed to hick coins
and it was still on a Friday. He left here
on the chairs and make the cyclone never came.
Speaker 6 (00:39):
There's only one part time Queensland on this panel, breath.
It's not this blake, it's fell part on queens he had.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
There's a big woods shunning himself up somewhere at the
Looser or with Sundays.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You know where he is.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
He probably danced on a beach somewhere. Was he in
Greece that time dancing?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
That's the man keeps re sleets. I'd be very careful
he does. He sure does. With their finals hopes on the.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Line, the Dragons had everything to fight for against the Bulldogs,
and with just minutes remaining, the Red v look set
for victory.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Before some crucial calls. Flip the script.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Obviously all eyes on that man rather boy just turned
twenty this week. Lock on Galvian Galvin on the tracy
a three on two, crowding on care.
Speaker 7 (01:29):
On the kill set, kill us, He's away, He's constantly
on his inside. He's downslide on his outside and then
tire over, tire outside, cracked away crime, the slips through
Preston on the inside, Galvin on the inside, and with
the number seven on his back, Galvin bunches over in
the corner quite again gets it on. This could be
(01:51):
something and.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
A killer streaming dragonads have hit away. Oh he's lost
the ball.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
He is going upstairs, virus Captain did Joan.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
La Lewis foot is moved forward into the space of
the play the ball.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
This is rockineperis.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
The challenge by the Bulldogs is successful. Seriously, that one
there aroused me more than anything, because you have got
to get to your feet to play the ball. How
it goes. Burton on the kick out trues to shovel.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
A lot off the track at six mortails.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Kick out passes the ball hit sloan and goes forward
the one hundred years.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
That's knock one.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You know, there's some decisions tonight that cost us to
competition points.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
He is Garvin on the d.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Drops that was the turning point thanks to Ashley Martin
Medical Hair Centers phnos.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Read the raid. He was not happy in the press
conference after that one.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Dan the Lachlin Galvin pass match winner, but there was
a few calls that he they got wrong.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yes, and I know we're going to debate those. I
thought to play the ball that he really was upset about.
He might have had a case there, but you know what,
you got to make that last tackle.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Don't race in.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And I know that's cruel on Tyrrell Sloan and I
think the better team lost that game, but there's a
reason why the Dragons keep losing close ones. And while
they didn't get the rub of the green on Saturday night,
and I can understand Shane's frustration, don't run in and
open the door for Galvin. It was like a glitch
in that video game. The poor fella, and that just Canterbury.
(03:39):
The kid had one moment. He was not very good
all game, none of them were, but one moment and that's.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
All that matters.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
But Dan, going back to kraz Les, Lula, they wouldn't
be down that end of the field with Karaz passing
to the winger if the referee not the referee the bunker.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
To look at a buzz wrong on this all right?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Now, let's have because after the game, Flannagan's adamant they
got this wrong.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
How did you see it? Buzz?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
You're obviously they reached side where the game at this
stage is after a quick play.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
The ball cor was after a quick play.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
The ball planted it not on the ground, but planted
it on the player's boot that George's defender leilue it.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
The referee called it correctly.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Then it went up to the bunk and they overturned it.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I have no doubt whatsoever that I'm right and Flannagan
is right on that one decision. I won't wear that
there was a knock on in the next one.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But okay, so we're after we did this on Super Saturday,
and the whole penel agreed with you. In Flanne, we
thought they going wrong and we looked at it a
few times. Since then, I've looked at it even more
and I tend to think now it's the fifty to
fifty cores could.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Have went either way.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Now I know you said he planted it on his football.
Watch leilus foot move lad here there so it moves
into mate.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I know.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
And there's an argument that there is an argument that
Karaz should have got to his feet entirely and didn't
and it was it could have been incorrect play the ball.
But I don't see it as clear as I did.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
But what you're saying a fifty to fifty core you
the bunker has to run with the referee.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
The referee. That's a good point. That's a good pointre.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Also point out look his arms Lewis arms on Jacob
Keraz's back which stops him get into his fit. Now
the NRL has cleared this day said this decision.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Doesn't does it?
Speaker 6 (05:32):
So that does he doesn't sut there and they've watched
this and said, but you know what he put it.
Look talked about him planning the ball. He hasn't planned
the ball because le Lewis foot's got in the way,
So the ball has never planned it. Let's start by
saying that said someone.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
He planted on his boot he trying to play with
because he was out.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
The second thing is he hasn't got to his feet
because Louis got his arm on his back. Buzz.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
That's why can I can I just challenge you on
the NRL saying you got it right?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Were you like were yesterday? Did you see Jerome blue white?
Speaker 6 (06:04):
They haven't said that was right. I said that was right.
I spoke to the all about that decision today.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
They said, you know what they said, and you know
they said this. They said that was a fifty to
fifty call. That's not the blatant Leila knock on. So
you're relying on the n r L telling you the
spin doctors.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Andrew I just told you.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You keep quoting the n r L. No, I told
you what the NRL were wrong with.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
Was on his back, which prevented him getting to his
feet and Lewis foot the ball was never planned on
the ground.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
I'm sorry, Rody, I'm sorry your The spin doctors have
got to you.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
They have, mate, they have Can we go.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Back to Kiros just for a second, because there's something
that no one's talked about here, and it's the fact
that when decisions are going to the video to the bunker,
they are no longer going on field. Referees on field,
they feel the game and they go with flow right,
and they manage a game once it gets to the bunker,
it is now that's where the tiki tak decisions come in.
(07:10):
That's the Harry Grant decision on the cost Melbourne the
game because to the letter of the law, what is
the bunker supposed to do when Leilua does. I'm with you,
I think Kiras is at fault because he clearly gets
up before and tries to plant before he's entitled to.
But letter of the law, Leilua's arm is on him
the whole way, and there's the leg in there as well,
(07:30):
so letter of the law they are adjudicating it differently.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
The first er my eyes, was him trying to play
it too quick, planning the ball on his and I
think the NRL's assertion whether it's spin doctoring and I
think it might be or not, is that before he
gets a chance to make the error, Lailua makes the
error first he creates the first I thought it was
a really really sloppy attempt to play the ball, and
(07:55):
all weekend we've had play the ball penalties for roll
through the tunnel.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
But it's sloppy because Blake's arms on his back buzz
and I'm sorry, I don't agree.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Really, let's agree to disagree, because if we get aru
all night over this one, let's get to the next one.
This was really army kick out left hand side, goes
for the quick hands, which I've seen him do five, six,
seven times this year. Shane flanningg and his adamant that
he dropped this. I totally disagree with Shane on this now.
My opinion kick out is going for those quick hands,
(08:26):
and I said that he does often. Was a pass
and he tries to pass it on it's knocked down
by Sloan. So I didn't see this as he did.
How did you guys see it?
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I think Flanno has seen that live and when you
see that live yet it looks like a knock on.
But when you see the replay like we've seen, and
the touch judge was right there in line with it,
and it was based on the touch judge's call, I
believe you can see that's a pass breath that's knocked
by Roll Sloane. So I think they've got this one
spot on. I can understand why Flanet had the reaction
(08:57):
he had to it because he's sitting on the stand
and and sitting up high a stand, you see that,
I could see what you would think, that's a knock on.
But when you see it like we've.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Also got computers that they look at and.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
They can get a clear look at it, but.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
From behind it looks like a knock on. I reckon.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Brace.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
I don't have a real problem with what happened there,
and I can I can wear that one was slowan
in the wrong place in the first time.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Should he have stuck to his wing and trusted his center?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That's yeah, that that's why he's coming up the gym.
He's just yeah, but I know you come up to jam.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
But should he have come up to jam when he
had to send it there was committed.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Or whether he had the edge forward.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
There he center got committed by you think he did
the right thing. He did, Yeah, he had to because
look silly.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
He's actually releasing its fair point being pulled in there.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
But what's what's that going to do anything? We're arguing
over the knock on here, don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
But what I'm trying to say is Plano could also
ask his winger. That's why he was not there in
the first place.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
To keep an eye on the I have mastered the art.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Of losing close games this year. I think Flannagan is
one hundred.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Percent right with the Kirez decision, and I can understand
his frustration.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
But there's a reason they're out of the eighth.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
They should be actually strangely right in the mix, but
they keep losing the close games because they can't close them.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Did you see Cambra two satur days ago, the slaying
forward pass when the try got called back a forward
pass that when a meter back with and what I'm.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Saying, buzz buzz buzz.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You're talking about a team no matter what calls they get,
are they going to win the game?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Still it's round nine? Has been saying, he said it
a round nine.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
We need to improve our game management and we need
to finish off our games. I haven't heard him say
it since, but that's the problem they've got.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
And I agree with all that. I agree with what
you're saying.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
But what I'm trying to point out is two weeks
in a row they've had a couple of bad calls.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
That's deciding calls.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
They signing down in Canberra, it was in the first
twenty minutes or something that had.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
A tried taken off them possible twenty minutes, they had
tried and I finished, they had tried taken off them
right and a conversion attempt and they're beaten by four.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
It happened in the first half, don't that's a street
to say that it's a terrible call, but it's not
to say it cost them the game.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
That was in the first ten minutes.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Look, I you know, I feel a bit sorry for them.
I do because I thought they didn't have to win
that game. That was heartbreaking that game, and you know
we talk about the Galvin pass, miracle pass, great pass,
brave pass, rister, an intercept.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
But that's the difference between the teams. Buss Dan's right,
they've had to go all year, but they just and
bright to the two. They haven't had someone and Tim
Watson is coming on. Like've spoken about this, they're after
a marquee half because they haven't had someone who can
get them over the line, win the games and the balance.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
And further to that, you know they've had some tough calls.
They had tough calls in this game, but in the
first half they're kicking game and their game management. The
King game is diabolic, you know, and even in kemmandments
they're short dropouts and their fit tackle options. You wouldn't
see much worse if you looked at every game this year,
that first forty minutes. So you know, yeah, we can
(12:11):
look at all these lucky calls they get, and rightly so,
and you can feel sorry for them because they could
have won, should have won four or five more games
this year, but you can't overlook that they do have
issues with the way they're playing it.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
But I thought going back to we've spoken about it
here and Shane gets upset with this, right and this
is not a shot of Kyle, and I'll stress that
it's not a shot of Kyle flann again. But the
reserve grade team is winning. They want again on the weekend,
their halves and that it's not just lucky, it's Jonah
Glover as well, been playing out of their skin and
reserve grade can't get a looking.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And that's not why does he get angry with that?
Because he thinks he seems to be very sensitive.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Father mate, he's a father.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
They've won one out of their last six, the I
was Cup of one, eleven out of their last world
and and and then.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
If I can, so, why are you're discussing it? But
a father doesn't look looks at his son different, that's affectively.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
That's not even Saint Cole should be out. The team
has been battling in recent weeks.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I think he's going all right the five eight, I
think he's going okay. But the bottom line is with
Saint George, and we're here picking them apart and giving
him the first ten minutes of the show compared to Paramatta,
compared to the West Tigers, compared to the Titans, and
this was a side many expected to finish some tipical
when the wooden spurn.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
So they're not going too bad. But I can understand this.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
But we're talking about the top of the showcause of
the controversy. Yeah, yeah, we are. We're not talking about this.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Look, I understand that.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
But I think Carle Flannagan is a hooker and that's
where his place is down the track with that Saint
George side. And I even spoke to Cameron Serroudo about
last week. He thinks he's a well they.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Debuted him as nine, yes, didn't They owed the Bulldogs
and Serroudo was full of praise for Galvin. But did
he improved their attack on the weekend.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Well, he did when the game was the Long Breath.
I mean, obviously they didn't have a great night and
Dragons defended the world, but you know what he came
up with the big players then said when it was needed.
And you know, I'm not sure Tabe's sex and throws
his pass. You know, I think Taby's been good and
Buzz pointed out he was good in use at last Cup,
but I'm not sure whether he comes up with that
(14:24):
play lock and Galvin did to win that game at
the end of that match, So yeah, you know, I
mean that's a twenty year old kid who is under
immense pressure to throw that pass when the game's in
the line. I mean that takes a lot of that stones.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
That's all very that's all very fair comment.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
I go back to the first seventy eight minutes before
that great pass was thrown, and I didn't see enough
in Canterbury's attack to challenge a top four side.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, it is when you say work in progress.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
We've got seven rounds to go, we get in the
busin this end of the season and they need to
sort it out.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Pretty quickly or they won't last longer.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Do you think, Okay, do you think they had an
attack that could challenge top four sides consistently before all
this went down?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Well, Dan, they were leading the competition but a very
long time.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
They had a good second against question. I understand, I understand, But.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
They had a good second half against Camber and they've
booting nobody, And am I right? Both they're booting nobody
and that's not their fault. They can only boot the
teams that they played. But do you think and maybe
you've answered that by bye, by the fact they were
on the top of.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
The tape, you're only last week pointing out why they
needed to make the change.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
No, this is where you're wrong reading and I stuck.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
No, you aren't. You're so wrong. I wish we could
get a replat what I said last week.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
See what I said was I had mail last week
that Lachlan Galvin would come into the side. I continued,
and I said, I wouldn't have done that. You pointed
out the attack was I didn't put the stats up
on the board.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah I did up, Yeah I didn't drop off My
argument that Sexton should be the half back didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I'll tell you how I said.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I thought the first half was very promising, busy, he
was left, he was right, he was threatening. He's so
fit and he's in the game and that's what you
want from your halves. The second game, I've got a
second half. Got a little bit concerned because their attack
was poor. It really was, and I couldn't see too
much evolution. But then he comes up with the big
(16:32):
player to win the game, which is what you need.
X factor class and under pressure, delivering when you need
to deliver at the right time of the game. This
is all about evolution and evolving in their attack.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Getting better. That's why they've put him in there.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
It's the first game, but he's started seven that they've
picked him, so you've got to give it time. And
I think at the end of the day it's a
really good result because he'll take a lot of confidence
from that one. I think Buzz in three weeks you
can go. You know what, it's either a failure or
is his success.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Right now, Cameron serud is.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
A great coach.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Cameron, he thinks he's going to turn them into a
more lethal attacking So what.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Do you think you feel like I can feel you
want to jump in.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I respect the move, I don't respect how it went down.
We all agree it's stunk from the moment and I
know I'm going over all territory, but from the moment.
Gus referred to Galvin as the best teenager who's ever
seen that. That's a guy the coach Brad Fhitler as
a teenager right through all the events till he arrived
at the Bulldogs. The whole thing is stuck. Okay, but
(17:39):
that past is the past, and I think we have
to stop looking through the prism of how we got
to hear and now we have to look at this
from a distance and take away how it happened, why
it happened, and both that attack were struggling.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
They can't win them plan they did on the weekend,
but they hang on you.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Before before yeah saying.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
You said, and I saw it on the show. You
wenttimated that their attack was not going to trouble the likes.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Of in Canberra when they came back from twenty down.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
That's one good half of football, one good attacking half
of football.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I was there when they had sixty five thousand people
and it's only South and South were wounded Easter Monday
or good Try whenever it was they bought him off
the park.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Hang on, be strong here, But you're saying that they'd
be better off with sex than or not.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Oh what I'm saying to you is I don't like
the way it's happened.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I think if a half back is good.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Enough to lead the competition with, I think he deserves
to keep his spot on the side. I'm not here
to argue with someone as knowledgeable as Cameron Surround, who
was a super coach in the making, if he thinks
that he can.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Get more for that football, so we get You've got
to back him. You know you got it.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
This is a tough lud, right, and tough things happen
where I feel sorry for Sexton as Cannaby, people behind
the scenes, feeding journo's stats, feeding journo's bits and pieces
so they can write things about Toby Sixton and where
he struggled and the first half against Camber was terrible
and that stuff happened, and that stuff goes on softening
the ground. So when this happened, we wouldn't be shocked
(19:18):
by My question to you, Braith, can they do this
in six weeks. It's not a long time break and
they've got Melbourne in around twenty five. I'm looking at that.
I think that's potentially must win because that'bly for top
two and I break.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
To be honest, I think they're going.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
To have to get a couple of finals at home.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
If they're a fed in compute, they've got some work
to do. They can do it. They can do it.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
But if you look at the teams that are inform
at the moment, you know, Canberra, even Penrith, Brisbane mainly
showed form on the weekend, even the Worry, there's a
lot of teams that have leveled up with them now,
you know, in terms of the way they're playing at
the right time of the year. But because I don't
think it's just all about Galvin, I think there's other
players in that team. This form has dropped, I really do,
(20:03):
and I think that's actually impacted the team as well.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
It's not just about the seven.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
It's not just about getting that combination or even their
key players. Creator was really good on the weekend, come
up with that individual effort for a try, but even
his form over last month dropped a little bit Sherry's injured.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Burton wasn't great on the weekend, so.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
That they actually need their big guns to stand up again,
as they had done for the majority of the year.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
It's all Origin knocked him about.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
They lost a pew to Origin King and Burton was
a manned one week and cry And was gone and
Young the lock forward, the utility player went to Queensland man.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
As Galvin gets more comfortable break they'll get better. He
gets more comfortable with the Blake surround him. They get
more comfortable with him. They know what because he's a
bit of an unpredictable player. I can imagine he would
be not hard to play with, but he'd take a
bit of getting used to because he lots to be
so involved and so all over the park. So they'll improve.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It's interesting with.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
How they handle Blaze to Laney now they are in
desperate straits early, but they did not put him in
as five eight until round six because they wanted to
be sure he was ready for the Penrish system. I
suspect that's more about defense than anything. But they were patient,
but it took six weeks for them to be comfortable.
So is it possible breath to have Galvin fit in
(21:20):
and he's a very different style of player to Canterbury.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Can it be sorted in six?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I think Kenby and the Weekend was the first step
they won the game. They took a risk, he came
up with a big play and the rest have got
to evolve around him. Now Kevin Walters has been oh
is to be named the Kangaroos coach.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
There's been a bit of a delay on this. What
is the delay?
Speaker 5 (21:40):
I think the fact Radio Michael carry out and has
broke the story prematurely yesterday.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
The story, Yeah, it was coming, is going to happen,
It's still gonna happen. I think it's still gonna happen.
I think happened at some point this week. I think
break the Kevy will be the new coach. The Kangaroos
think it's a smart decision. Look, I mean I thought
maybe Wayne shoul got the job, but once they made
the decision not to appoint a club coach, I think
Kevy was the logical next bloke in line. So I
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think you'll do a great job.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
keV. Three game deal?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Is it three game deals he's worked out?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Because why a three game deal?
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Well, I think that's just because they've got They've done
it so quickly. Brath, I just want to get through
this ASST series, which is really important for them, because.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
He's going to be a tough tour ready, It's going
to be such a tough tour. A lot of players
we saw in Origin I'm talking pay Haas, I'm talking
Tina and now the Hammer might not make themselves available
for that green of gold jersey. And look, I know
we have tremendous backup in the centers and it's Latl
going to be fit to tour ready. You know, Tam
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Murray in the old days was an automatic selection that
forward pack.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Jake Turbo was too. It is going to be a
really tough tour for Kevy.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Do we think the Hammer, Hals and Tina are going
to play for Australia or not?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Like, what are the odds?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Well, I don't think Pain will. I think Pain would
have played for Small last year if he was fit,
and I think I'll play for Samail again. I think
Tina by the sounds of it's definitely leaning that way.
And minudstanding is that Tino and Hammer have actually spoken
about it, spoke about it during Origin camp with Queensland
and there's every chance Hammer plays for Siri's played for
Smile before it the World Cup I think a few
years ago, so I think they'll all play for Small Breath.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
It was crazy, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Look this started what four or five years ago with
Andrew Pifedo and Jason Tarmalama, and it's just growing and
growing and growing. I actually think it's great for international
rugby league. Australia used to just have to put their
jerseys on and turn up to win international and the
international game was pretty rubbish, I thought. But now we
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have the Pacific Ons, now we have England, now we
have New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I think it's great.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Do you think it's good there?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I think yes I do. I don't like it when
players intomate. If I don't get picked for Australia, I'll
go and play for one of the Pacific nations. It's
sort of Hammer said that in a press conference.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I'd rather just.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Say I want to play for SMO and that's the
end of that too. Absolutely, I think I do think
we need to get to Tier one status somehow, and
Tonga perhaps have some sort of moratorium where for a
year an amnesty whoever wants to go across, this is
your chance.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
But that's it.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
We can't have chopping and change. I don't like that idea.
I've never been a fan of that idea because then
you forced players to make a choice between playing for
Samoroa or Tonga and playing playing state of origin. I
think they'll all play state of origin. You'll decimate Samow,
You'll decimate all the good work we're done with Samorow.
And if you do that, you are right.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
We need the big argument last time I was anyway,
just separate the two. Start of origins its own thing
and has everyone And if.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
You if you qualify for origin, if you're born in
this country, or if you paid your journal, that's doesn't
matter what country.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
You played for.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Bradley's right, Brimston playing for England.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Their Coeensland is the new South Wales boys.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
But national. And there's a World Cup here next year
is at the end of next year. It'll be terrific.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
But what about the West Tigers snatching victory at Leichhart
against the Tigers, sorry against the Titans in.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
It with a great field goal from Adam Dewey. What
a game?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Not so it was a great field goal break. It
was a bit of an ugly one but doesn't do
the job. And there's a sideline for this game.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
And Dan was corn.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
It was a bit of a blood of a game.
But you know it's important win for the Tigers. You can't,
you know for club that's rue through successive Wooden spoon
if they'd lost their game, the Titans winning right up
the cracker, so to win, so to win that game,
it's huge for the Tigers and.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
The funny ready we talk about game managers and lou
I was on a million plus to manage football games.
He gets the ball on the full tackle and he
runs down the hill side almost in the corner, making
a field goal almost impossible. Lucky they got out of it.
But that ain't game management in any way.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
You said, what a game, broth amend that too a game.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
But it was a great fish and it was.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It was great that week.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Those kids, dads would have taken their kids and daughters
and their sons and daughters and they'll never ever, they'll
forget how rubbish the first seventy nine minutes, but they'll
remember how they felt at the finish.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Can I tell you it was a lot more exciting
than the rugby Union a lot more.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Did you watch it?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I had on my iPad and I had the league
on the main team.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And now the Tigers players Grapper with Lee and Pasco.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
What's the story here? You got a message there like
break news or something or.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
No, someone's just text me about what I just said
about rugby union. It was quick, unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Back to this, what happened to Grapper?
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Three West Tigers had dinner there with Lee, had your
pentalis and Justin Pasco, the old CEO and chairman. The
players actually organized the dinner. Wayne Bennett and his partner
was sitting on a nearby table there going Yeah, Wayne
loves the Johnt you know, that's his favorite restaurant. I
thought it was a really really odd place for these
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guys to gather for a dinner. Knowing I think Hoop
said it on radio. It's a bit like Rugby League Central.
If rugby league people get go there, they get noticed.
And I was to me it was a little bit
of an up yours, Richil and Benji Mate, I can
tell you.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I can't tell you the players.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Were there because tell us the players bus to I
can't because the person rang up and told me and said,
I'll tell you this happened, but I'm not going to
tell you who was there?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Have you got someone? I caught one there at COVID.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
No, I know you did. Weren't you.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Made Tim Sheen's coach?
Speaker 6 (27:52):
And I was there with that lunch?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah? Yeah, we had lunch.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
And Timmy was sitting down there and the table. This
is when they were getting rid of mad And I
said to Tim, at seventy odd years of age, I said, mate,
would you consider coaching?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
And he put his hand up?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
But Tim got the job from that simple question because
Pasco was just nodding when he didn't he was all right?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
As for lunch, who nominated Shenes as the coach? Again,
I just I didn't.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I asked him would he be interested in doing the
job and he said yes?
Speaker 6 (28:30):
And then didn't you say?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Justin?
Speaker 6 (28:32):
What do you think? And he went, it's not a
bad idea.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, that's right, justin, it's good.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
You wanted to walk out of the restaurant and write it,
and I.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Said, lot's I said, it's a private lune, okay, right,
and we'll just sit on it.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
So you wrote it a week later.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
All right, beautiful as we had to a break.
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Welcome to L three sixty Rebu League from Every Angle,
brought to you by Fort Everest joining me, Dan Gane,
Buzz Rothfield and Brent Reed. Dan you're back.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well, it's going to be school holiday somewhere.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Got his busy.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well he's the've got a very watertight contract breath, and
he gets a certain amount of days off.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Mate.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Seriously, this is his third holiday this year.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
You know when the cyclone was supposed to hick coins
and it was still on a Friday. He left here
on the chairs and make the cyclone never came.
Speaker 6 (00:39):
There's only one part time Queensland on this panel, breath.
It's not this blake, it's fell part on queens he had.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
There's a big woods shunning himself up somewhere at the
Looser or with Sundays.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You know where he is.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
He probably danced on a beach somewhere. Was he in
Greece that time dancing?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
That's the man keeps re sleets. I'd be very careful
he does. He sure does. With their finals hopes on the.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Line, the Dragons had everything to fight for against the Bulldogs,
and with just minutes remaining, the Red v look set
for victory.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Before some crucial calls. Flip the script.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Obviously all eyes on that man rather boy just turned
twenty this week. Lock on Galvian Galvin on the tracy
a three on two, crowding on care.
Speaker 7 (01:29):
On the kill set, kill us, He's away, He's constantly
on his inside. He's downslide on his outside and then
tire over, tire outside, cracked away crime, the slips through
Preston on the inside, Galvin on the inside, and with
the number seven on his back, Galvin bunches over in
the corner quite again gets it on. This could be
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something and.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
A killer streaming dragonads have hit away. Oh he's lost
the ball.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
He is going upstairs, virus Captain did Joan.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
La Lewis foot is moved forward into the space of
the play the ball.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
This is rockineperis.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
The challenge by the Bulldogs is successful. Seriously, that one
there aroused me more than anything, because you have got
to get to your feet to play the ball. How
it goes. Burton on the kick out trues to shovel.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
A lot off the track at six mortails.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Kick out passes the ball hit sloan and goes forward
the one hundred years.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
That's knock one.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You know, there's some decisions tonight that cost us to
competition points.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
He is Garvin on the d.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Drops that was the turning point thanks to Ashley Martin
Medical Hair Centers phnos.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Read the raid. He was not happy in the press
conference after that one.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Dan the Lachlin Galvin pass match winner, but there was
a few calls that he they got wrong.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yes, and I know we're going to debate those. I
thought to play the ball that he really was upset about.
He might have had a case there, but you know what,
you got to make that last tackle.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Don't race in.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And I know that's cruel on Tyrrell Sloan and I
think the better team lost that game, but there's a
reason why the Dragons keep losing close ones. And while
they didn't get the rub of the green on Saturday night,
and I can understand Shane's frustration, don't run in and
open the door for Galvin. It was like a glitch
in that video game. The poor fella, and that just Canterbury.
(03:39):
The kid had one moment. He was not very good
all game, none of them were, but one moment and that's.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
All that matters.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
But Dan, going back to kraz Les, Lula, they wouldn't
be down that end of the field with Karaz passing
to the winger if the referee not the referee the bunker.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
To look at a buzz wrong on this all right?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Now, let's have because after the game, Flannagan's adamant they
got this wrong.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
How did you see it? Buzz?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
You're obviously they reached side where the game at this
stage is after a quick play.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
The ball cor was after a quick play.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
The ball planted it not on the ground, but planted
it on the player's boot that George's defender leilue it.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
The referee called it correctly.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Then it went up to the bunk and they overturned it.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I have no doubt whatsoever that I'm right and Flannagan
is right on that one decision. I won't wear that
there was a knock on in the next one.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But okay, so we're after we did this on Super Saturday,
and the whole penel agreed with you. In Flanne, we
thought they going wrong and we looked at it a
few times. Since then, I've looked at it even more
and I tend to think now it's the fifty to
fifty cores could.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Have went either way.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Now I know you said he planted it on his football.
Watch leilus foot move lad here there so it moves
into mate.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I know.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
And there's an argument that there is an argument that
Karaz should have got to his feet entirely and didn't
and it was it could have been incorrect play the ball.
But I don't see it as clear as I did.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
But what you're saying a fifty to fifty core you
the bunker has to run with the referee.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
The referee. That's a good point. That's a good pointre.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Also point out look his arms Lewis arms on Jacob
Keraz's back which stops him get into his fit. Now
the NRL has cleared this day said this decision.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Doesn't does it?
Speaker 6 (05:32):
So that does he doesn't sut there and they've watched
this and said, but you know what he put it.
Look talked about him planning the ball. He hasn't planned
the ball because le Lewis foot's got in the way,
So the ball has never planned it. Let's start by
saying that said someone.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
He planted on his boot he trying to play with
because he was out.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
The second thing is he hasn't got to his feet
because Louis got his arm on his back. Buzz.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
That's why can I can I just challenge you on
the NRL saying you got it right?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Were you like were yesterday? Did you see Jerome blue white?
Speaker 6 (06:04):
They haven't said that was right. I said that was right.
I spoke to the all about that decision today.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
They said, you know what they said, and you know
they said this. They said that was a fifty to
fifty call. That's not the blatant Leila knock on. So
you're relying on the n r L telling you the
spin doctors.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Andrew I just told you.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You keep quoting the n r L. No, I told
you what the NRL were wrong with.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
Was on his back, which prevented him getting to his
feet and Lewis foot the ball was never planned on
the ground.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
I'm sorry, Rody, I'm sorry your The spin doctors have
got to you.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
They have, mate, they have Can we go.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Back to Kiros just for a second, because there's something
that no one's talked about here, and it's the fact
that when decisions are going to the video to the bunker,
they are no longer going on field. Referees on field,
they feel the game and they go with flow right,
and they manage a game once it gets to the bunker,
it is now that's where the tiki tak decisions come in.
(07:10):
That's the Harry Grant decision on the cost Melbourne the
game because to the letter of the law, what is
the bunker supposed to do when Leilua does. I'm with you,
I think Kiras is at fault because he clearly gets
up before and tries to plant before he's entitled to.
But letter of the law, Leilua's arm is on him
the whole way, and there's the leg in there as well,
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so letter of the law they are adjudicating it differently.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
The first er my eyes, was him trying to play
it too quick, planning the ball on his and I
think the NRL's assertion whether it's spin doctoring and I
think it might be or not, is that before he
gets a chance to make the error, Lailua makes the
error first he creates the first I thought it was
a really really sloppy attempt to play the ball, and
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all weekend we've had play the ball penalties for roll
through the tunnel.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
But it's sloppy because Blake's arms on his back buzz
and I'm sorry, I don't agree.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Really, let's agree to disagree, because if we get aru
all night over this one, let's get to the next one.
This was really army kick out left hand side, goes
for the quick hands, which I've seen him do five, six,
seven times this year. Shane flanningg and his adamant that
he dropped this. I totally disagree with Shane on this now.
My opinion kick out is going for those quick hands,
(08:26):
and I said that he does often. Was a pass
and he tries to pass it on it's knocked down
by Sloan. So I didn't see this as he did.
How did you guys see it?
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I think Flanno has seen that live and when you
see that live yet it looks like a knock on.
But when you see the replay like we've seen, and
the touch judge was right there in line with it,
and it was based on the touch judge's call, I
believe you can see that's a pass breath that's knocked
by Roll Sloane. So I think they've got this one
spot on. I can understand why Flanet had the reaction
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he had to it because he's sitting on the stand
and and sitting up high a stand, you see that,
I could see what you would think, that's a knock on.
But when you see it like we've.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Also got computers that they look at and.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
They can get a clear look at it, but.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
From behind it looks like a knock on. I reckon.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Brace.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
I don't have a real problem with what happened there,
and I can I can wear that one was slowan
in the wrong place in the first time.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Should he have stuck to his wing and trusted his center?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That's yeah, that that's why he's coming up the gym.
He's just yeah, but I know you come up to jam.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
But should he have come up to jam when he
had to send it there was committed.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Or whether he had the edge forward.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
There he center got committed by you think he did
the right thing. He did, Yeah, he had to because
look silly.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
He's actually releasing its fair point being pulled in there.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
But what's what's that going to do anything? We're arguing
over the knock on here, don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
But what I'm trying to say is Plano could also
ask his winger. That's why he was not there in
the first place.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
To keep an eye on the I have mastered the art.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Of losing close games this year. I think Flannagan is
one hundred.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Percent right with the Kirez decision, and I can understand
his frustration.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
But there's a reason they're out of the eighth.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
They should be actually strangely right in the mix, but
they keep losing the close games because they can't close them.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Did you see Cambra two satur days ago, the slaying
forward pass when the try got called back a forward
pass that when a meter back with and what I'm.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Saying, buzz buzz buzz.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You're talking about a team no matter what calls they get,
are they going to win the game?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Still it's round nine? Has been saying, he said it
a round nine.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
We need to improve our game management and we need
to finish off our games. I haven't heard him say
it since, but that's the problem they've got.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
And I agree with all that. I agree with what
you're saying.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
But what I'm trying to point out is two weeks
in a row they've had a couple of bad calls.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
That's deciding calls.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
They signing down in Canberra, it was in the first
twenty minutes or something that had.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
A tried taken off them possible twenty minutes, they had
tried and I finished, they had tried taken off them
right and a conversion attempt and they're beaten by four.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
It happened in the first half, don't that's a street
to say that it's a terrible call, but it's not
to say it cost them the game.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
That was in the first ten minutes.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Look, I you know, I feel a bit sorry for them.
I do because I thought they didn't have to win
that game. That was heartbreaking that game, and you know
we talk about the Galvin pass, miracle pass, great pass,
brave pass, rister, an intercept.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
But that's the difference between the teams. Buss Dan's right,
they've had to go all year, but they just and
bright to the two. They haven't had someone and Tim
Watson is coming on. Like've spoken about this, they're after
a marquee half because they haven't had someone who can
get them over the line, win the games and the balance.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
And further to that, you know they've had some tough calls.
They had tough calls in this game, but in the
first half they're kicking game and their game management. The
King game is diabolic, you know, and even in kemmandments
they're short dropouts and their fit tackle options. You wouldn't
see much worse if you looked at every game this year,
that first forty minutes. So you know, yeah, we can
(12:11):
look at all these lucky calls they get, and rightly so,
and you can feel sorry for them because they could
have won, should have won four or five more games
this year, but you can't overlook that they do have
issues with the way they're playing it.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
But I thought going back to we've spoken about it
here and Shane gets upset with this, right and this
is not a shot of Kyle, and I'll stress that
it's not a shot of Kyle flann again. But the
reserve grade team is winning. They want again on the weekend,
their halves and that it's not just lucky, it's Jonah
Glover as well, been playing out of their skin and
reserve grade can't get a looking.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And that's not why does he get angry with that?
Because he thinks he seems to be very sensitive.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Father mate, he's a father.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
They've won one out of their last six, the I
was Cup of one, eleven out of their last world
and and and then.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
If I can, so, why are you're discussing it? But
a father doesn't look looks at his son different, that's affectively.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
That's not even Saint Cole should be out. The team
has been battling in recent weeks.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I think he's going all right the five eight, I
think he's going okay. But the bottom line is with
Saint George, and we're here picking them apart and giving
him the first ten minutes of the show compared to Paramatta,
compared to the West Tigers, compared to the Titans, and
this was a side many expected to finish some tipical
when the wooden spurn.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
So they're not going too bad. But I can understand this.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
But we're talking about the top of the showcause of
the controversy. Yeah, yeah, we are. We're not talking about this.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Look, I understand that.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
But I think Carle Flannagan is a hooker and that's
where his place is down the track with that Saint
George side. And I even spoke to Cameron Serroudo about
last week. He thinks he's a well they.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Debuted him as nine, yes, didn't They owed the Bulldogs
and Serroudo was full of praise for Galvin. But did
he improved their attack on the weekend.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Well, he did when the game was the Long Breath.
I mean, obviously they didn't have a great night and
Dragons defended the world, but you know what he came
up with the big players then said when it was needed.
And you know, I'm not sure Tabe's sex and throws
his pass. You know, I think Taby's been good and
Buzz pointed out he was good in use at last Cup,
but I'm not sure whether he comes up with that
(14:24):
play lock and Galvin did to win that game at
the end of that match, So yeah, you know, I
mean that's a twenty year old kid who is under
immense pressure to throw that pass when the game's in
the line. I mean that takes a lot of that stones.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
That's all very that's all very fair comment.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
I go back to the first seventy eight minutes before
that great pass was thrown, and I didn't see enough
in Canterbury's attack to challenge a top four side.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, it is when you say work in progress.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
We've got seven rounds to go, we get in the
busin this end of the season and they need to
sort it out.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Pretty quickly or they won't last longer.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Do you think, Okay, do you think they had an
attack that could challenge top four sides consistently before all
this went down?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Well, Dan, they were leading the competition but a very
long time.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
They had a good second against question. I understand, I understand, But.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
They had a good second half against Camber and they've
booting nobody, And am I right? Both they're booting nobody
and that's not their fault. They can only boot the
teams that they played. But do you think and maybe
you've answered that by bye, by the fact they were
on the top of.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
The tape, you're only last week pointing out why they
needed to make the change.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
No, this is where you're wrong reading and I stuck.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
No, you aren't. You're so wrong. I wish we could
get a replat what I said last week.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
See what I said was I had mail last week
that Lachlan Galvin would come into the side. I continued,
and I said, I wouldn't have done that. You pointed
out the attack was I didn't put the stats up
on the board.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah I did up, Yeah I didn't drop off My
argument that Sexton should be the half back didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I'll tell you how I said.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I thought the first half was very promising, busy, he
was left, he was right, he was threatening. He's so
fit and he's in the game and that's what you
want from your halves. The second game, I've got a
second half. Got a little bit concerned because their attack
was poor. It really was, and I couldn't see too
much evolution. But then he comes up with the big
(16:32):
player to win the game, which is what you need.
X factor class and under pressure, delivering when you need
to deliver at the right time of the game. This
is all about evolution and evolving in their attack.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Getting better. That's why they've put him in there.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
It's the first game, but he's started seven that they've
picked him, so you've got to give it time. And
I think at the end of the day it's a
really good result because he'll take a lot of confidence
from that one. I think Buzz in three weeks you
can go. You know what, it's either a failure or
is his success.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Right now, Cameron serud is.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
A great coach.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Cameron, he thinks he's going to turn them into a
more lethal attacking So what.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Do you think you feel like I can feel you
want to jump in.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I respect the move, I don't respect how it went down.
We all agree it's stunk from the moment and I
know I'm going over all territory, but from the moment.
Gus referred to Galvin as the best teenager who's ever
seen that. That's a guy the coach Brad Fhitler as
a teenager right through all the events till he arrived
at the Bulldogs. The whole thing is stuck. Okay, but
(17:39):
that past is the past, and I think we have
to stop looking through the prism of how we got
to hear and now we have to look at this
from a distance and take away how it happened, why
it happened, and both that attack were struggling.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
They can't win them plan they did on the weekend,
but they hang on you.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Before before yeah saying.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
You said, and I saw it on the show. You
wenttimated that their attack was not going to trouble the likes.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Of in Canberra when they came back from twenty down.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
That's one good half of football, one good attacking half
of football.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I was there when they had sixty five thousand people
and it's only South and South were wounded Easter Monday
or good Try whenever it was they bought him off
the park.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Hang on, be strong here, But you're saying that they'd
be better off with sex than or not.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Oh what I'm saying to you is I don't like
the way it's happened.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I think if a half back is good.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Enough to lead the competition with, I think he deserves
to keep his spot on the side. I'm not here
to argue with someone as knowledgeable as Cameron Surround, who
was a super coach in the making, if he thinks
that he can.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Get more for that football, so we get You've got
to back him. You know you got it.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
This is a tough lud, right, and tough things happen
where I feel sorry for Sexton as Cannaby, people behind
the scenes, feeding journo's stats, feeding journo's bits and pieces
so they can write things about Toby Sixton and where
he struggled and the first half against Camber was terrible
and that stuff happened, and that stuff goes on softening
the ground. So when this happened, we wouldn't be shocked
(19:18):
by My question to you, Braith, can they do this
in six weeks. It's not a long time break and
they've got Melbourne in around twenty five. I'm looking at that.
I think that's potentially must win because that'bly for top
two and I break.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
To be honest, I think they're going.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
To have to get a couple of finals at home.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
If they're a fed in compute, they've got some work
to do. They can do it. They can do it.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
But if you look at the teams that are inform
at the moment, you know, Canberra, even Penrith, Brisbane mainly
showed form on the weekend, even the Worry, there's a
lot of teams that have leveled up with them now,
you know, in terms of the way they're playing at
the right time of the year. But because I don't
think it's just all about Galvin, I think there's other
players in that team. This form has dropped, I really do,
(20:03):
and I think that's actually impacted the team as well.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
It's not just about the seven.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
It's not just about getting that combination or even their
key players. Creator was really good on the weekend, come
up with that individual effort for a try, but even
his form over last month dropped a little bit Sherry's injured.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Burton wasn't great on the weekend, so.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
That they actually need their big guns to stand up again,
as they had done for the majority of the year.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
It's all Origin knocked him about.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
They lost a pew to Origin King and Burton was
a manned one week and cry And was gone and
Young the lock forward, the utility player went to Queensland man.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
As Galvin gets more comfortable break they'll get better. He
gets more comfortable with the Blake surround him. They get
more comfortable with him. They know what because he's a
bit of an unpredictable player. I can imagine he would
be not hard to play with, but he'd take a
bit of getting used to because he lots to be
so involved and so all over the park. So they'll improve.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It's interesting with.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
How they handle Blaze to Laney now they are in
desperate straits early, but they did not put him in
as five eight until round six because they wanted to
be sure he was ready for the Penrish system. I
suspect that's more about defense than anything. But they were patient,
but it took six weeks for them to be comfortable.
So is it possible breath to have Galvin fit in
(21:20):
and he's a very different style of player to Canterbury.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Can it be sorted in six?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I think Kenby and the Weekend was the first step
they won the game. They took a risk, he came
up with a big play and the rest have got
to evolve around him. Now Kevin Walters has been oh
is to be named the Kangaroos coach.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
There's been a bit of a delay on this. What
is the delay?
Speaker 5 (21:40):
I think the fact Radio Michael carry out and has
broke the story prematurely yesterday.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
The story, Yeah, it was coming, is going to happen,
It's still gonna happen. I think it's still gonna happen.
I think happened at some point this week. I think
break the Kevy will be the new coach. The Kangaroos
think it's a smart decision. Look, I mean I thought
maybe Wayne shoul got the job, but once they made
the decision not to appoint a club coach, I think
Kevy was the logical next bloke in line. So I
(22:07):
think you'll do a great job.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
keV. Three game deal?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Is it three game deals he's worked out?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Because why a three game deal?
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Well, I think that's just because they've got They've done
it so quickly. Brath, I just want to get through
this ASST series, which is really important for them, because.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
He's going to be a tough tour ready, It's going
to be such a tough tour. A lot of players
we saw in Origin I'm talking pay Haas, I'm talking
Tina and now the Hammer might not make themselves available
for that green of gold jersey. And look, I know
we have tremendous backup in the centers and it's Latl
going to be fit to tour ready. You know, Tam
(22:45):
Murray in the old days was an automatic selection that
forward pack.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Jake Turbo was too. It is going to be a
really tough tour for Kevy.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Do we think the Hammer, Hals and Tina are going
to play for Australia or not?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Like, what are the odds?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Well, I don't think Pain will. I think Pain would
have played for Small last year if he was fit,
and I think I'll play for Samail again. I think
Tina by the sounds of it's definitely leaning that way.
And minudstanding is that Tino and Hammer have actually spoken
about it, spoke about it during Origin camp with Queensland
and there's every chance Hammer plays for Siri's played for
Smile before it the World Cup I think a few
years ago, so I think they'll all play for Small Breath.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
It was crazy, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Look this started what four or five years ago with
Andrew Pifedo and Jason Tarmalama, and it's just growing and
growing and growing. I actually think it's great for international
rugby league. Australia used to just have to put their
jerseys on and turn up to win international and the
international game was pretty rubbish, I thought. But now we
(23:45):
have the Pacific Ons, now we have England, now we
have New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I think it's great.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Do you think it's good there?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I think yes I do. I don't like it when
players intomate. If I don't get picked for Australia, I'll
go and play for one of the Pacific nations. It's
sort of Hammer said that in a press conference.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I'd rather just.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Say I want to play for SMO and that's the
end of that too. Absolutely, I think I do think
we need to get to Tier one status somehow, and
Tonga perhaps have some sort of moratorium where for a
year an amnesty whoever wants to go across, this is
your chance.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
But that's it.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
We can't have chopping and change. I don't like that idea.
I've never been a fan of that idea because then
you forced players to make a choice between playing for
Samoroa or Tonga and playing playing state of origin. I
think they'll all play state of origin. You'll decimate Samow,
You'll decimate all the good work we're done with Samorow.
And if you do that, you are right.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
We need the big argument last time I was anyway,
just separate the two. Start of origins its own thing
and has everyone And if.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
You if you qualify for origin, if you're born in
this country, or if you paid your journal, that's doesn't
matter what country.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
You played for.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Bradley's right, Brimston playing for England.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Their Coeensland is the new South Wales boys.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
But national. And there's a World Cup here next year
is at the end of next year. It'll be terrific.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
But what about the West Tigers snatching victory at Leichhart
against the Tigers, sorry against the Titans in.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
It with a great field goal from Adam Dewey. What
a game?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Not so it was a great field goal break. It
was a bit of an ugly one but doesn't do
the job. And there's a sideline for this game.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
And Dan was corn.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
It was a bit of a blood of a game.
But you know it's important win for the Tigers. You can't,
you know for club that's rue through successive Wooden spoon
if they'd lost their game, the Titans winning right up
the cracker, so to win, so to win that game,
it's huge for the Tigers and.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
The funny ready we talk about game managers and lou
I was on a million plus to manage football games.
He gets the ball on the full tackle and he
runs down the hill side almost in the corner, making
a field goal almost impossible. Lucky they got out of it.
But that ain't game management in any way.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
You said, what a game, broth amend that too a game.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
But it was a great fish and it was.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It was great that week.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Those kids, dads would have taken their kids and daughters
and their sons and daughters and they'll never ever, they'll
forget how rubbish the first seventy nine minutes, but they'll
remember how they felt at the finish.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Can I tell you it was a lot more exciting
than the rugby Union a lot more.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Did you watch it?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I had on my iPad and I had the league
on the main team.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And now the Tigers players Grapper with Lee and Pasco.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
What's the story here? You got a message there like
break news or something or.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
No, someone's just text me about what I just said
about rugby union. It was quick, unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Back to this, what happened to Grapper?
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Three West Tigers had dinner there with Lee, had your
pentalis and Justin Pasco, the old CEO and chairman. The
players actually organized the dinner. Wayne Bennett and his partner
was sitting on a nearby table there going Yeah, Wayne
loves the Johnt you know, that's his favorite restaurant. I
thought it was a really really odd place for these
(27:11):
guys to gather for a dinner. Knowing I think Hoop
said it on radio. It's a bit like Rugby League Central.
If rugby league people get go there, they get noticed.
And I was to me it was a little bit
of an up yours, Richil and Benji Mate, I can
tell you.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I can't tell you the players.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Were there because tell us the players bus to I
can't because the person rang up and told me and said,
I'll tell you this happened, but I'm not going to
tell you who was there?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Have you got someone? I caught one there at COVID.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
No, I know you did. Weren't you.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Made Tim Sheen's coach?
Speaker 6 (27:52):
And I was there with that lunch?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah? Yeah, we had lunch.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
And Timmy was sitting down there and the table. This
is when they were getting rid of mad And I
said to Tim, at seventy odd years of age, I said, mate,
would you consider coaching?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
And he put his hand up?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
But Tim got the job from that simple question because
Pasco was just nodding when he didn't he was all right?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
As for lunch, who nominated Shenes as the coach? Again,
I just I didn't.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I asked him would he be interested in doing the
job and he said yes?
Speaker 6 (28:30):
And then didn't you say?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Justin?
Speaker 6 (28:32):
What do you think? And he went, it's not a
bad idea.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, that's right, justin, it's good.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
You wanted to walk out of the restaurant and write it,
and I.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Said, lot's I said, it's a private lune, okay, right,
and we'll just sit on it.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
So you wrote it a week later.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
All right, beautiful as we had to a break.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
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Speaker 3 (28:52):
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