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November 5, 2024 51 mins

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Jess Gilliam is the Brand Creative Director at Giphy. She’s also an artist and maker, whose creative output is full of joy and play.

In our conversation, Jess offers her thoughts on being an artist in the modern world, with the constant push and pull of having a 'grown-up' job versus making art that’s linked to your sense of being a playful child. We also discuss the pressures of being an adult and having a so-called proper job.

Jess also shares her journey of coming back to herself and unlocking her creativity, mirrored by her move from New York back home to California.

We also discuss the ins and outs of Jess’s creative practice, and her work at Giphy. It’s a wonderful, soothing, relatable conversation.

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