December 2, 2024 • 44 mins
This week I welcome two incredible women from my personal circle, Hilary DiPiero and Teresa Pearson. Long term friends turned collaborators, who have come together in the creation of a brand that is focused on sharing the beauty and power of the small moments in life. Personally, I am struck by their connection to each other and their decision to reveal themselves so that it can bring happiness and inspiration to other people.
An inspiring, feel good conversation that is just in time for the season of giving!
Hilary DiPiero is married with 3 children in New Jersey. She has served on HMH@ Riverview Medical Center Board of trustees and served on Horizons Board. She also hosts an annual fundraiser for HMH@Riverview Medical Center the last 10 years.
Teresa Pearson relocated back to the NJ area in 2020 after living in the New England area for 18+ years. She is mother to Bridget and happily married to her husband, Dana. She has been a Marketing Executive w/ over 25+ years of experience working for Fortune 500 companies and served on several boards - Girls on the Run Board, St Judes Family Advisory Board as well as HMH Marketing Sub-Committee Board.
(4:00) We start off talking about the beautiful friendship that Hilary and Teresa share. How did they meet? What was the genesis of this collaboration that they have created?
(9:27) They talk about how this collaboration isn’t just about themselves, but also shedding light on the “small moments” we can appreciate each day.
(12:33) They each describe the other, sharing with the community what they see in each other.
(16:37) We talk about courage, in bringing themselves forward into the public, and what part it has played in their journey.
(25:26) What has changed in their lives as a result of their collaboration and putting themselves out there?
(28:18) What is the reaction to the work they do? What are they hearing from people who follow them and share their own experiences?
(32:15) What advice do they share with others who are inspired to try something new in their own lives?
(40:02) What is next for Hilary and Teresa?
Connect with Hilary DiPiero and Teresa Pearson
https://www.instagram.com/hilaryandteresa/
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An inspiring, feel good conversation that is just in time for the season of giving!
Hilary DiPiero is married with 3 children in New Jersey. She has served on HMH@ Riverview Medical Center Board of trustees and served on Horizons Board. She also hosts an annual fundraiser for HMH@Riverview Medical Center the last 10 years.
Teresa Pearson relocated back to the NJ area in 2020 after living in the New England area for 18+ years. She is mother to Bridget and happily married to her husband, Dana. She has been a Marketing Executive w/ over 25+ years of experience working for Fortune 500 companies and served on several boards - Girls on the Run Board, St Judes Family Advisory Board as well as HMH Marketing Sub-Committee Board.
(4:00) We start off talking about the beautiful friendship that Hilary and Teresa share. How did they meet? What was the genesis of this collaboration that they have created?
(9:27) They talk about how this collaboration isn’t just about themselves, but also shedding light on the “small moments” we can appreciate each day.
(12:33) They each describe the other, sharing with the community what they see in each other.
(16:37) We talk about courage, in bringing themselves forward into the public, and what part it has played in their journey.
(25:26) What has changed in their lives as a result of their collaboration and putting themselves out there?
(28:18) What is the reaction to the work they do? What are they hearing from people who follow them and share their own experiences?
(32:15) What advice do they share with others who are inspired to try something new in their own lives?
(40:02) What is next for Hilary and Teresa?
Connect with Hilary DiPiero and Teresa Pearson
https://www.instagram.com/hilaryandteresa/
Subscribe: Warriors At Work Podcasts
Website: https://jeaniecoomber.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/986666321719033/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanie_coomber/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeanie_coomber
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanie-coomber-90973b4/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbMZ2HyNNyPoeCSqKClBC_w
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And in many ways. I think a lot of times
people don't present themselves right. They feel that they have
to arm or up in order to kind of deal
with every day. And I think that has been a
process I've personally been going through. In this process, is
I got to speak that shield off because you know,
(00:20):
I may present myself in some way that's not my intention.
But if I did, I want to make sure that
that is not You're not really seeing that as the reality.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Welcome to the Warriors at Work show. This is Genie Koomber,
your guide and host. This is a show for men
and women in the workplace who want to move from
the predictable to the potent. This is your weekly dose
of inspiration with an edge. I talk with CEOs and
Shawman's sports marketing executives and therapists. All of us are
(00:54):
like minded thinkers and doers who tell stories, share wisdom
and chat. I lenge each other to have the best
life possible inside and outside the office. Welcome to your
Warrior Conversation. Hey everybody, it's Genie. Thanks so much for
joining me here at Warriors at Work. I'm bringing to
(01:14):
you today a slightly different conversation than the ones I
might have done in the past. Hillary and Teresa are
two wound from my personal circle. Our daughters all go
to high school together, and I was struck not only
by their connection to each other because they have a long,
long history, but I was really struck by who they
are individually and the decision that they made to reveal
(01:38):
more of themselves purely with the intention of sharing things
to bring happiness to other people. You know, when you
get that dopeymine hit when you've had a delicious meal
or a delicious drink of some kind, or you bought
something for yourself or someone else, and the joy that
you feel, that's Hillary and Teresa. You know, when you
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experience a product, whether it's clothing, skincare, anything that brings
you a moment of joy and happiness and gratitude, that's
Hillary and Teresa. You know, when you see something in
nature and you're in complete awe and you feel inspired
and motivated, that's Hilary and Teresa. It's all of these
(02:22):
small moments that they are experiencing that they've decided to
create an Instagram brand and are having a really nice
following of people, And I thought, what a great opportunity
to provide them a platform to share their story and
what they're doing in the world, because that little bit
(02:44):
that they're doing could inspire someone else. Maybe someone listening
or watching is wondering, Yeah, that's something else that I
want to do. But I don't want to come out
from behind my label or my armor, and so I
was thrilled to just provide a space for these two
incredible women to tell you their story and what they're
doing and how they're having an impact. So enjoy, Hillary
(03:08):
and Teresa, Thank you so much for joining me. Well,
one of the things that I want to do first
is I want to set the table, and so for
everybody listening, watching, there's really three things about this conversation
that I want to make sure we really bring out.
One is the beauty and power of friendships new and old. Secondly,
what it's like to actually bring something to the world
(03:29):
that you have a yearning around and you both really
deliberately did that. And then the third is the expansiveness
and the sense of fulfillment that comes from doing that.
And so what I really want is for those that
are here in this conversation with us, maybe ignite an
idea inside of them, or maybe just fan the fire
(03:50):
of energy and passion that they have for something and saying, hey,
they're just like me. I can do this too. And
so having said all of that, what I think is
is really important is I want to take a step
back and talk about this beautiful friendship that the two
of you have. And it all started in college when
(04:10):
fill in the blank.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Nineteen ninety two ish, Yes, we were both junior year.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, because I was a transfer in and so we
didn't connect until like a couple of years into our
college experience.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, yeah, so I'd say nineteen ninety two and ninety yeah,
ninety one, ninety two somewhere around there.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So from ninety one ninety two to now you have
had lots of twists and turns and have stayed together
as friends. And you decided to do a collaboration together
after knowing each other for many, many years. Gets back
to the moment when you decided to do something together.
Tell us the genesis of the idea, what was going on?
(04:58):
Even like who brought it up to?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Who?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I think?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I think that we have dabbled in these conversations for
so many years. We would have a particular interest in
just kind of it would spur conversation that would be, Oh,
we should do we should do a spa, we should
do a kids store, we should do I can't remember
the ideas over the last fifteen years that we just
(05:29):
always kind of had a deeper conversation and it would
lead to kind of wanting to do more with.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Whatever we were talking about at the time. Yeah, and
I think because we've had similar interests. We had similar
interests from the day we met, so we've always connected
on our interests and I've always just innately thought, Wow,
if we brought something to market, you and I would
have enough passion to really execute it upon it. And
I think having these early ideas was great because we're
(06:00):
to be like, well, could we do it?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Should we do it? It's the right time.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So when we got to where we are today, it
wasn't starting from scratch. We already knew we had similar interests,
We already knew about some business verticals we were interested in.
It was more about taking that first step. But the
basis the foundation of those conversations are well beyond fifteen years. Yeah,
I would say they're more in the twenty five plus years.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Okay, what was the first step we were like, all right, hey, listen,
let's do something on Instagram like take me down to
like the granular, Like what was the first move?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
So we had been having I had relocated back to
this area.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Having been gone for eighteen years and coming back to
the area. A lot of similar more similarities were coming
to fruition between Hill and I and.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
A lot of it was rooted in just life.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You know, things exparizing, whether it's raising kids, you know, schools,
what makes us happy, going through walks, and just in
those organic conversations. We had so much more to offer,
So we started to just idate what about if we
really took the opportunity, now that I've relocated back here,
(07:22):
we're both in different stages of our lives to start something.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
And I'd also say Hill has always been.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
An advocate for it doesn't need to be this massive
plan to begin, but I tend to think of massive plans.
So it was more about us meeting in the middle
for a massive plan out of the gate.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
You're right because we didn't talk about this, but I
know what you're talking about and that, Yeah, we have
touched on that a lot of times.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, because it's I think the idea of doing something
can feel debilitating, It paralyzes you. So by having both
of us be honest about what we would want to
do to a certain degree and how we want to
execute it.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
As I said, I think we had to meet in
the middle because I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Still going to be like a thousand ideas and He'll
will be like, they're all great ideas, but let's do
them slowly, with thoughtfully, with a lot of you know,
a decent amount of planning. But you know, that's kind
of what brought us to a place that we're like,
you know what she's I was in my.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Own thought process.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I was like, she's right, it doesn't have to be perfection,
but if we're both willing to take that step, let's
take the step.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah. Sometimes the hardest thing to do is to just begin,
just start somewhere.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, And I think that.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I think that space is the hardest because we would
have these conversations and sort of think about sharing or
think about doing something, but it wasn't fully baked. And
so I think the idea of putting sort of our
interests and ideas out there is almost so that community
(09:23):
can help us fully bake something.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
And I know you both shared with me when we
were preparing for this is that this brand is not
about you individually, but it's exactly what you're sharing right
here is it's about how you can provide thought and
moments of feeling good or just ideas or things that
(09:47):
you could create a sense of community and conversation around.
I would love for you to expand upon that, because
I think that's another ingredient to this experience, is that
it's not about you each individually, but it's you're trying
to put a thought or feeling out there that's greater
than yourselves.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
The idea was these everyday moments that were we loved
and if we loved them, we're like, wow, that's great.
That was very simple, but somehow that made a difference
in our day. So those would be the things we
would share just between both of us. And in this
(10:25):
whole process we've been like, listen, there's a lot of
light we can offer people at celebrating those small little
moments in.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Every single day.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
And I mean, at the end of the day, we
want the same thing to apply to our families, to
our kids, et cetera. But it is about those small moments,
and that to me was a light bulb moment where
it wasn't so much about Yes, it was never about us.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
It was about the moments.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And could we have other people think of those moments
as well and realize, yeah, that might have been a
small moment, but that was a special moment in the day,
and that just makes the day better, right, It's not
we rushed through our days all the time. And I
did Hilary a lot of credit for being probably the
(11:15):
more dominant one of us to celebrate some of those
special moments.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Which had pulled me into thinking very differently.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So things that I may have not thought are like, wow,
that's special, now have become.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Well, that was a cup of coffee, or that walk
was the best walk ever, like those are The mindset
change in the small moments is very powerful.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
So I think that just like piggybacking off that, I
think when we would take the walks together and sort
of just we couldn't get enough in, we would we
would walk for like an hour class and we were
always rushing to something else, but we couldn't.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
We were almost like fighting.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
To share, and we would leave the conversations filled up.
You know, sometimes you leave a lot of conversations feeling
exhausted or depleted, and at least for me, I was noticing.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I would get in the car and be like, oh,
I want more, not like I need less.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You know, one thing I think is really interesting. I'm
going to put you both on the spot here. You
both have very different styles and energies that you bring
to this experience. And so Hillary, I'd love for you
to describe Teresa, and then Teresa, I'd love for you
to describe Hillary.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
That's interesting and I haven't thought about that specifically.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I would say that she's high energy.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I would say she runs like on a high energy,
but once she she kind of maxes out. She really
needs to be recharged in a way that is grounded
in something more meaningful, like not just uh, you know,
mindless television or something like that.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I think she does get recharged by.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Uh, a deeper sense of something bigger. She's always gone
to church. I've always found her just a person that
we connect at, you know, three levels down right from
the beginning. So for me, I would describe productive, task oriented,
(13:51):
but also.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Searching for that like peaceful.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Moment and searching for that deeper meaning. I think it's
a great combination, and I think you're grateful. You're grateful
for your family, You're grateful for the people that surround you,
a lot of good quality.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
That's beautiful. Very bribe Hillary, now, so.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You can see she's very thoughtful. So that I mean
incredibly thoughtful.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
Everything she does she puts got into So for me,
that's one of my most favorite things about Hillary is
the intent, the work she puts into it.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And nothing it's all again, it's the investment. Let's just
say that when she invests, she invests. She's also incredibly strong.
She's a fantastic mother and wife, and she is probably,
besides my sister, the only person I would ever take
(15:01):
true advice from, to be honest, because it's it is
she thinks about the whole picture.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
She thinks about. If I was supposed.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Something to her, she'd be like, all right, well, let's
think about all the applications to this. Now, as she explained,
I could be very much on the surface lovel Therefore,
I'm kind of interested and she might say, well it
looks good, but let's think a little bit more about this.
And throughout the years I've always just admired her just
(15:37):
who she's developed into I mean I knew her when
she was so young, and now to see her, you know,
continue to live her life, you know, build her life,
build her life here. You know, she's originally from Connecticut,
and ironically we met in college and happened I was
from this area and she married someone from this area.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
So that's just an amazing story in itself.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
But yeah, very family orientated as well, which is something
I've also.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Very much admired.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So she's capable of anything she puts her mind to,
which is always why it's good to have a little
bit of a firecracker.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Well, I love that you both shared that way because
you can see it with a lot of the posts
and the things that you talk about. Both of your
personalities and your perspective. Well, well, it's not meant to
be individualized. You can feel your chemistry how you're putting
things out there, and I think that also speaks to
really my next question, which you know, when we're thinking
(16:41):
about putting ourselves in a position where we're going to
do something for the sake of something greater than ourselves,
it takes courage to do it, especially being we're over
fifty and we've consciously made an effort to do something
a bit different, And I'd love for you to talk
about out the word courage and how you have both
(17:03):
leaned into that and you may may have faced your
own fears or insecurities, but you've still decided to go
forward with this. So I'd love to hear some perspective
on how courage is played a part in this journey.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I can speak to that first, I guess, I think
for me, even though this first step for us it
doesn't seem maybe from the outside looking and like it's
this overwhelming step, but for me and I think I
can speak to her in this setting, is like it
was big for us. It was big for us to
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share our personal things that inspire her and I. I
don't just share with everyone, you know, so it felt
very personal. So I think we looked at it as
a way to share, obviously a way to collaborate together,
(18:02):
but a way to take that anxious energy and take
a step and kind of put faith in the fact that.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
We could be.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Brave and we could kind of put ourselves out in
this way that is so exposed.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
I live kind of very.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Kind of protected, and I think you do too, where
you know we're not just like spreading everything out everywhere.
We're very mindful of how we live and how we
lead our lives, and so you know, just to put
those intimate details out it did take a lot of
(18:48):
It did take a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Of courage for me personally. Yeah, I would say absolutely
to a courage.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I could brand anyone and I could market anyone. But
then if I had myself, it becomes a very different scenario.
I also think because Hill and I were so committed
to authenticity with everything we're doing, these are not photoshopped
image is we don't have someone doing our social media.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
There isn't someone coming taking pictures of us. It is
not that.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It is those everyday moments. So that is that is
the exposed exposure and the courage that.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
You need to be willing to be like, hey, listen, this.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Is an everyday moment. And I can tell you one
example right now is I made a soup. Okay, now
I'm not the cook here. I'm like not goffled, So
I'm not thoffled as a kitschop a little more high energy.
So I want like instant, right, So I decide to
make this soup that is healthy, and I you know,
(19:53):
I just made it. It was a whim and it
was basically broccoli soup from I'm like nothing right, and
it's in a mighty mix, so it's it anyway. So
I post it, so no comment from her, but I
knew that it was like it's my version of cooking.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
So the next day she posts hers which is like
this gourmet and so, and at the end of her
picture she gave us off five stars. She put on
the post and I was like humiliating.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
The eating and talked about it. She's like she just
looked like what she's like, was it good? I'm like
kind of, but like that was a moment for me
in real time.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But if I wasn't being authentic, R like that's and
she did come back and give me a rating. She
gave me a star. I don't think anyone picked up
on but it was for you a lot exactly. But
the idea is like, I'm not looking for someone to
be like hopefully they some people are like how do
(21:07):
I Is it good? You know, maybe it inspired someone
to try that version of broccoli suit or it didn't,
But at that very moment, that was an everyday moment
that made me happen you know what can I.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Just I want to elaborate on that a little bit
because I was teasing you, right, And but the reality
is we're very aware of the different paths, even though
there's a lot of alignment of the different paths that
we've taken over the last you know, thirty years of
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you know, she's very like corporate and raising a family.
I was home and being like a support role and
doing all of those things that cultivated that side of me.
And almost as much as me putting myself out here
in this way feels.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Feels like such a different lane for me. Her trying.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Recipes and cooking and posting and all of those those
things that I've had the chance to really hone in on.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
It's great that you're doing that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Like I think that we've spoken a lot about like
bringing softness back into like an everyday life and you know,
appreciating like those cracks and crevices of the day. And
she's finding like interest and joy in trying those things.
And everyone has to start somewhere. So if you're starting
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with broccoli in the finist yes, as you should, you know,
and I think like that should be on there because
it's dabbling and she's putting it out there and that's like,
that's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
I had fifteen.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Minutes, you know what I mean that that was the
other thing, like, right, I didn't have that was the
get sure, you know. It was like, right, I'm gonna
throw all this in. I read about this recipe. Yeah,
really big trainer in la. I'm gonna strive this.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
And you'd probably time in between meetings where.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
I made a day of it and I bought all
my produce the day before and I make a bunch
of them and I freeze some and it's my mother
in law's recipe, and like I bring them out for
people at different times, and you know, so it's just
a different process.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I love I love this the story and the interaction
that you both had and the honesty that you just
shared here. And just to that point, so I sent
you a message Treata when I bought up her genes
that were not genes I would ever try on because
my immediate thought was I'm too old for this. These
genes don't speak to me because I'm too old for
(24:08):
this and they're too hip. And then when I saw
your posts, I was like, you know what, I'm going back.
I'm going to try those genes on and I bought
them and I would not have done that had you
not put yourself out there. So it immediately inspired me
to play, to play with the edges a bit for myself.
And of course I walked into my house and I
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was like.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Check me out.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I did some spins and I was like, they could
wear them with heels, I can wear them with go on,
and I just took it to the next level. So
it was like just a little little thing that you
did where you were having a moment of authenticity that
had a multiplying effect. And I think that's the other
thing that I'm seeing and noticing with your brand and
what you're putting out there. It's creating has resonance with people,
(24:56):
and there's a bit of a contagious energy to it,
and so subtlety and the beauty of that moment can
have such a profound impact. And I think that's the
other thing that I really want to drive home in
this point is that I think we over architecture things,
we overthink it. And the genesis of what you're both
saying is like the these are moments that made you
(25:16):
both feel good. Yeah, and if it made you feel good,
it can make someone else feel good, and yes to
more of that in the world, which leads me to
my next question, because I would love for you to
share with us what has changed in both of you
or maybe how have you expanded as a result of
leaning into this now.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I think as you're doing things, you're you're feeling them more, right,
It's resonating with you more, and you're like, you're like, looking,
what can I share or what do I want to share?
And so you're kind of honing in more on whether
it is a product and experience a quote that spoke
to you. I think you're just, oh, I really think
(26:02):
that this could you know, resonate, So I think that
that's a bigger piece.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And the bravery, Yeah, and I think, oh, I've definitely
seen Hill become more brave.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
That was for sure in other ways, not necessarily.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
The cooking part was already break there, but just in
an exposure part, I've seen that. And then for me personally,
I feel that before I started this, I rushed through
every single day. So I was like that case that
was really hard to acknowledge anything happening in my day
(26:41):
and this has really made me not only appreciate the moments,
but look for the moment.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
And that was that's changed my whole dynamic. So I
look for those.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Everyday moments that matter because they do not have to
be monumental to be a great moment. It is also
in many ways translated to my family life. What are
the things that I'm doing that could be special moments
that my family can acknowledge with me and they can
(27:13):
be again big, small, doesn't matter. We make something, we
go for a walk, we plant some stuff, we all
put the halloweens, whatever it is, or just to talk,
just to talk.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
You know, we're now starting to like potentially bring out
the backhand in games. You know, it's puzzles to me.
The other day I was like, Wow, I hadn't done
them in a while.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Maybe I think it's it's made me personally stop and
slow down and look for those moments every day and
then figure out where when I see them. Besides sharing
them with people, you know, in our community, it's more
about how do I bring them in and use more
of them into my everyday life, inclusive of you know,
(27:57):
things I do with my family.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, the awareness that where are we rushing to to
what end. Like, I know, we all live and die
by our schedules, but why why not just take the
moments And I think, I think that's really really beautiful
what you both just said. And I'm also really curious, like,
what's what's been the reaction, what's the love you're feeling back?
(28:24):
What are you hearing from people?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I mean, he'll just have someone that she ran into
that gave her some you know, direct reflection, and I'll
let her speak to But overall, I'd say it's been
really positive. We're not doing this for the likes necessarily,
but we are doing it for the fact of even
if no one's commenting, if they are taking from it
(28:47):
something that benefits their every day that they're like like you, You're like, well,
I wasn't going to get those genes, but you know what,
I just saw him on her, and I'm going to
go do something like that that that's us is worth
a thousand minutes we have, you know, asked like, what
do you want to see more of? We can obviously
see where engage mind is on certain things, but yeah,
(29:10):
why don't you.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Tell her about your recent one?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I ran into somebody that I know that I don't
see that often anymore, and she just was she just.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Like stopped me and said how much.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
And she was with her daughter and her husband and
just said, I love this Sunday you know, reflection, this
thing that you guys do. And and her family was
like laughing with her because she's like, don't I always
send you that the I share the Sunday reflection with
you guys, Like it's such a nice It's always like
(29:42):
a thoughtful, thought provoking reminder. And I just thought that
was such a nice, such a nice compliment, because that's really.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Important to both of us. Yeah, because she's if she's
sharing it with.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Her daughters on Sundays, because it say reflection, whether it's
a gratitude, whatever it might be. That I heard, you know,
when Hill told me that, I'm like, oh yeah, you know, yeah,
that's so good.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
You know that that's that softness that you were referring to,
the softness, this compassion, this kindness, and like it's it's
this whole notion around we all want to be seen,
we all want to be heard, we all want to
be understood, and all of these moments just speak to
that sense of humanity and connectedness yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I think that your point about like, what are we
all rushing to?
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Racing to? It goes by so fast, and I think we're.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Just trying to slow it down a little bit. And again,
if we play any part in that, whether it's slowing
you down, making you reflect on something, having a special
moment thinking about doing something, and everyday moment you would
have thought about doing then those are the moments that
we're telling you to break. In many ways, take a beat.
(31:09):
And again, we're work in progress. This is not like
we don't have it all worked out. We are just
being very honest about what it's really like and how
we're getting through it and how we're you know.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
The the light and our the light and the joy
in our days.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
But we're not dictating you go do you need to
do that. We're just clearly saying we've found something. It's
working for us. And in many ways, I think a
lot of times people don't present themselves right.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
They feel that they have to armor up in order
to kind of deal with every day.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
And I think that has been a process I've personally
been going through. In this process is I got to
take that shield off, because you know, I may present
myself in some way. That's not my intention, But if
I did, I want to make sure that that is
not You're not really seeing that as the reality.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
I would like to.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Live these lives because they're busy and they're hard.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
And when you think about anybody that's watching or listening
and they're yearning for something more or they want to
do something with it, what's your advice?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
A small step just to try try something new. It
doesn't have to be the plan. It can just be
all plan.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
You know.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
It could be a class, it could just be dabbling
in a new experience that you feel afraid to try
or intimidated to try, just to expand you know.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Your own comfort level. I think I think a big
conversation her and I have is like that over fifty
dynamic where you almost feel pigeonholed into a lane and
you can speak to this you know you had to
hit it, and I think you know you've gone down
this road for this amount of years, and so that's
(33:14):
how you're seen. How can I be seen as a
person trying to cook? How can I be seen as
a person trying to share in a public way just
by taking a small step?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Because we can all keep recreating.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
You know, I think it's I think I said it
to you is you know you see somebody's bio and
you know, just that little highlight reel and you know
some are more expansive than others. But especially if you've
had a career or a big education, you know you
can the bio grows. But where's all the little bits
(33:56):
and pieces. You know, it's it's not in your bio.
You know you have to you have to. That's where
I say, like, there was cracks and crevices, like that's
where life is built in those.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Little yeh, That's where all the grit, the pain, the
ugly cries are. Yeah, the cracks and crevices.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
And the sampling and the trying and the.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Failing and the embarrassment or the intimidation. She brought me
to a yoga class I don't know when last year
at some point, and I always worked out my whole life,
but I went to the yoga class and it was
a hot yoga.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
I was destroyed. I couldn't. I thought, oh my god,
I can't do this.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
And I was overwhelmed and hot, and I left and
I thought, oh, I have to try.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
I have to see like this cannot be. So I
googled what I had to do.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I realized I had made a couple you know, wrong
moves drinking cold water before all this is And I
went back in and I said, like, I have to
try again, and then I kept going because it felt
great and it's just.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Not feeling so embarrassed right you look about you, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
But the safety too of saying to her I was
dying that day, like I was sweating, perfect I was.
She had to walk me down this Year's and get
me a green juice and like replenish me and for
me to say, have a friend close enough to be
like I am, I'm going to hydrate.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Me right now and exactly what we were. But I
feel braver together. There's a safety in that, you know
what I mean. Not everybody has that, So I'm grateful
for that. You know. I don't know if I would
(36:05):
do it.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I'm sure I would try many things alone, but I
think that we would try more together.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
And just as we were talking the other day and
I said, isn't it funny how you know Hilbo reference lanes,
I will reference like we put ourselves in boxes. And
for me personally, I felt like, oh, I was just
a working mom.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
So that's my box. I never thought that I could
maybe be.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
A working mom and learn some things that I wouldn't
have learned because or done often because I was working,
you know, in a different capacity, because you know, obviously everyone.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Works, whether you're at at a corporate job or not.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
And I think that that it is the removal of
those boxes that is because a freeing feeling that.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
It is because we are a lot of light.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
But then quite different that the free them and the
comfort and the acknowledgment to say you can go try something,
whether it's till it's a hot yoga class with me.
For me, it's doing anything, you know, I mean entertaining.
I mean she had to give me her playlist on
what is the wort? I mean, you know, this is
(37:18):
what it comes down to. But that's the reality. It's like, well,
how did you do that? Create that and think of that,
you know, and that fascinates me because I'm like, hum,
but for that.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
She didn't make me go do my own I just well,
it's damn.
Speaker 8 (37:35):
And also, you know, being our age, right, timing is
everything you're in.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
The thick of, Like whether it's raising kids, or building
your career, providing for your family or in all kinds
of ways nurturing them or financially. That takes the front
seat for a long time. And when you get to
a certain age and maybe one aspect of that can
(38:03):
slow down a bit and you can actually see through
that to not just say, oh, now, I can just
kick my feet up, to say, like, what did.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I always want to try?
Speaker 3 (38:14):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (38:17):
You know, what is there out there that interests me?
Speaker 3 (38:22):
You know that I didn't think would interest me as
I was had blinders on and in just running from
appointment to appointment over the last you know. So I
think to women also, it's men and women, it's be
patient with yourself and your timing. There are plenty of
things that are going to take a front seat in
(38:43):
different moments.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Of your life.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
And it's more about just like kind of trying to
stay open to the possibility that's not going to always be.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Like this, right.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
And I think also when you're in your fifties, I
don't know about you both, but I feel like the
clock is louder, It's ticking much louder. You start to
really think about if not now, then when and what's
that expression, I didn't work this hard to only come
this far? Yeah, and so what else is there not
(39:14):
to resign ourselves to what we think we're supposed to do.
It's like, well why not?
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Right?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
And and that mightn't necessarily mean if you're a working
mom saying oh I have to I've worked this hard.
I can't quit working this hard, it might mean i've
worked this hard at this Oh now I want to
work this.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Hard at some right or.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
You know, vice versa somebody else in a different way,
like you can you can pick up on other things
for your for your mental capacity, just to keep yourself
engaged in life.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
So true? Who so true? All right, So here's my
last question. What is next? What are you both plotting
and planning looking down the road for right now?
Speaker 4 (40:12):
So we have a.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Few things that we're looking at. I would say first
on our list is probably we are going to look
at some bespoke collections.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
So these would be.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Very thoughtful collections around things both Hill and I like.
So I can't really go into details necessarily about what
it would be, but just know we will bring to
market something in a very small way, but something that
again will be based on something we both love, but
(40:46):
we'll involve you know, a lot of thought around it,
and we're hoping that in the next few months the
first one will happen.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Yeah, And I think that we we.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Talk about wanting to just push ourselves, right and again
that it doesn't have to be in this giant way,
but pushing ourselves with our different experiences and trying to
capitalize on that, not in the sense of like capitalize,
but like to push each other out of our spaces
(41:23):
and say, all these skills you've accumulated, or all these
skills that I've accumulated, Like, let's collaborate in that space
and see in a small way what we.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Can do together just challenge ourselves.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah, So like you know, you know, as I said,
some bespoke collections, we've talked about doing or doing this one.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Podcast, we've talked about the podcasts. We've talked about writing.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Is there anything we can do writing wise between the
two of us that could be interesting. And then the
other is, you know, specifically on our IG channel is
highlighting women women who we believe should be everyone should
be celebrated, but we'll start to spotlight individuals.
Speaker 10 (42:12):
As part of the evolution of that channel, so you know,
at the end of the day, we'll have a better
sense as things evolve, how things work for us, how
we feel about them.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Like everything will be done in a small, thoughtful way.
That's probably the big takeaway. It will be something that
we're not going to.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Throw all our eggs into one basket, because we're saying
we don't want to be in a box.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
That's why we're saying we can do a lot of
different things. They may be smaller in scale, but if
they have a thought behind them, then well it will
be authentic us and hopefully authentic to anyone who, in
their views it purchases it, what have he engages with.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
It, which is the whole reason you're doing this in
the first place, is to put the good out there
and it really represents who you both are in the world.
And I feel so grateful to have made this podcast
conversation come to life and give you both a platform
(43:13):
to share more of this because I know this is
going to inspire more for you both, but also for
others to maybe take a chance on themselves, bring something
to light that maybe that they didn't have the courage
or were overthinking it and can see that it's just
about beginning. So I thank you both for all that
(43:34):
you're putting out into the world. I think Trinity Hall
for the introduction.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Yes, thank you, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
And I want to see whats best.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
Yes, I know for you too.
Speaker 11 (43:46):
We're so we're so grateful, and we've had a couple
of really nice conversations, all three of us, and they
are alone inspiring.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
So thanks, thanks for making Yeah this is an everyday
moment press as a highlight. Yeah, We're so grateful.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Thank you for joining me for another episode of the
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Speaker 4 (44:55):
Be well,
And in many ways. I think a lot of times
people don't present themselves right. They feel that they have
to arm or up in order to kind of deal
with every day. And I think that has been a
process I've personally been going through. In this process, is
I got to speak that shield off because you know,
(00:20):
I may present myself in some way that's not my intention.
But if I did, I want to make sure that
that is not You're not really seeing that as the reality.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Welcome to the Warriors at Work show. This is Genie Koomber,
your guide and host. This is a show for men
and women in the workplace who want to move from
the predictable to the potent. This is your weekly dose
of inspiration with an edge. I talk with CEOs and
Shawman's sports marketing executives and therapists. All of us are
(00:54):
like minded thinkers and doers who tell stories, share wisdom
and chat. I lenge each other to have the best
life possible inside and outside the office. Welcome to your
Warrior Conversation. Hey everybody, it's Genie. Thanks so much for
joining me here at Warriors at Work. I'm bringing to
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you today a slightly different conversation than the ones I
might have done in the past. Hillary and Teresa are
two wound from my personal circle. Our daughters all go
to high school together, and I was struck not only
by their connection to each other because they have a long,
long history, but I was really struck by who they
are individually and the decision that they made to reveal
(01:38):
more of themselves purely with the intention of sharing things
to bring happiness to other people. You know, when you
get that dopeymine hit when you've had a delicious meal
or a delicious drink of some kind, or you bought
something for yourself or someone else, and the joy that
you feel, that's Hillary and Teresa. You know, when you
(02:01):
experience a product, whether it's clothing, skincare, anything that brings
you a moment of joy and happiness and gratitude, that's
Hillary and Teresa. You know, when you see something in
nature and you're in complete awe and you feel inspired
and motivated, that's Hilary and Teresa. It's all of these
(02:22):
small moments that they are experiencing that they've decided to
create an Instagram brand and are having a really nice
following of people, And I thought, what a great opportunity
to provide them a platform to share their story and
what they're doing in the world, because that little bit
(02:44):
that they're doing could inspire someone else. Maybe someone listening
or watching is wondering, Yeah, that's something else that I
want to do. But I don't want to come out
from behind my label or my armor, and so I
was thrilled to just provide a space for these two
incredible women to tell you their story and what they're
doing and how they're having an impact. So enjoy, Hillary
(03:08):
and Teresa, Thank you so much for joining me. Well,
one of the things that I want to do first
is I want to set the table, and so for
everybody listening, watching, there's really three things about this conversation
that I want to make sure we really bring out.
One is the beauty and power of friendships new and old. Secondly,
what it's like to actually bring something to the world
(03:29):
that you have a yearning around and you both really
deliberately did that. And then the third is the expansiveness
and the sense of fulfillment that comes from doing that.
And so what I really want is for those that
are here in this conversation with us, maybe ignite an
idea inside of them, or maybe just fan the fire
(03:50):
of energy and passion that they have for something and saying, hey,
they're just like me. I can do this too. And
so having said all of that, what I think is
is really important is I want to take a step
back and talk about this beautiful friendship that the two
of you have. And it all started in college when
(04:10):
fill in the blank.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Nineteen ninety two ish, Yes, we were both junior year.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, because I was a transfer in and so we
didn't connect until like a couple of years into our
college experience.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, yeah, so I'd say nineteen ninety two and ninety yeah,
ninety one, ninety two somewhere around there.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So from ninety one ninety two to now you have
had lots of twists and turns and have stayed together
as friends. And you decided to do a collaboration together
after knowing each other for many, many years. Gets back
to the moment when you decided to do something together.
Tell us the genesis of the idea, what was going on?
(04:58):
Even like who brought it up to?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Who?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I think?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I think that we have dabbled in these conversations for
so many years. We would have a particular interest in
just kind of it would spur conversation that would be, Oh,
we should do we should do a spa, we should
do a kids store, we should do I can't remember
the ideas over the last fifteen years that we just
(05:29):
always kind of had a deeper conversation and it would
lead to kind of wanting to do more with.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Whatever we were talking about at the time. Yeah, and
I think because we've had similar interests. We had similar
interests from the day we met, so we've always connected
on our interests and I've always just innately thought, Wow,
if we brought something to market, you and I would
have enough passion to really execute it upon it. And
I think having these early ideas was great because we're
(06:00):
to be like, well, could we do it?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Should we do it? It's the right time.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So when we got to where we are today, it
wasn't starting from scratch. We already knew we had similar interests,
We already knew about some business verticals we were interested in.
It was more about taking that first step. But the
basis the foundation of those conversations are well beyond fifteen years. Yeah,
I would say they're more in the twenty five plus years.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Okay, what was the first step we were like, all right, hey, listen,
let's do something on Instagram like take me down to
like the granular, Like what was the first move?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
So we had been having I had relocated back to
this area.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Having been gone for eighteen years and coming back to
the area. A lot of similar more similarities were coming
to fruition between Hill and I and.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
A lot of it was rooted in just life.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You know, things exparizing, whether it's raising kids, you know, schools,
what makes us happy, going through walks, and just in
those organic conversations. We had so much more to offer,
So we started to just idate what about if we
really took the opportunity, now that I've relocated back here,
(07:22):
we're both in different stages of our lives to start something.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
And I'd also say Hill has always been.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
An advocate for it doesn't need to be this massive
plan to begin, but I tend to think of massive plans.
So it was more about us meeting in the middle
for a massive plan out of the gate.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
You're right because we didn't talk about this, but I
know what you're talking about and that, Yeah, we have
touched on that a lot of times.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, because it's I think the idea of doing something
can feel debilitating, It paralyzes you. So by having both
of us be honest about what we would want to
do to a certain degree and how we want to
execute it.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
As I said, I think we had to meet in
the middle because I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Still going to be like a thousand ideas and He'll
will be like, they're all great ideas, but let's do
them slowly, with thoughtfully, with a lot of you know,
a decent amount of planning. But you know, that's kind
of what brought us to a place that we're like,
you know what she's I was in my.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Own thought process.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I was like, she's right, it doesn't have to be perfection,
but if we're both willing to take that step, let's
take the step.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah. Sometimes the hardest thing to do is to just begin,
just start somewhere.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, And I think that.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I think that space is the hardest because we would
have these conversations and sort of think about sharing or
think about doing something, but it wasn't fully baked. And
so I think the idea of putting sort of our
interests and ideas out there is almost so that community
(09:23):
can help us fully bake something.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
And I know you both shared with me when we
were preparing for this is that this brand is not
about you individually, but it's exactly what you're sharing right
here is it's about how you can provide thought and
moments of feeling good or just ideas or things that
(09:47):
you could create a sense of community and conversation around.
I would love for you to expand upon that, because
I think that's another ingredient to this experience, is that
it's not about you each individually, but it's you're trying
to put a thought or feeling out there that's greater
than yourselves.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
The idea was these everyday moments that were we loved
and if we loved them, we're like, wow, that's great.
That was very simple, but somehow that made a difference
in our day. So those would be the things we
would share just between both of us. And in this
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whole process we've been like, listen, there's a lot of
light we can offer people at celebrating those small little
moments in.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Every single day.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
And I mean, at the end of the day, we
want the same thing to apply to our families, to
our kids, et cetera. But it is about those small moments,
and that to me was a light bulb moment where
it wasn't so much about Yes, it was never about us.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
It was about the moments.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And could we have other people think of those moments
as well and realize, yeah, that might have been a
small moment, but that was a special moment in the day,
and that just makes the day better, right, It's not
we rushed through our days all the time. And I
did Hilary a lot of credit for being probably the
(11:15):
more dominant one of us to celebrate some of those
special moments.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Which had pulled me into thinking very differently.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So things that I may have not thought are like, wow,
that's special, now have become.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Well, that was a cup of coffee, or that walk
was the best walk ever, like those are The mindset
change in the small moments is very powerful.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
So I think that just like piggybacking off that, I
think when we would take the walks together and sort
of just we couldn't get enough in, we would we
would walk for like an hour class and we were
always rushing to something else, but we couldn't.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
We were almost like fighting.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
To share, and we would leave the conversations filled up.
You know, sometimes you leave a lot of conversations feeling
exhausted or depleted, and at least for me, I was noticing.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I would get in the car and be like, oh,
I want more, not like I need less.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You know, one thing I think is really interesting. I'm
going to put you both on the spot here. You
both have very different styles and energies that you bring
to this experience. And so Hillary, I'd love for you
to describe Teresa, and then Teresa, I'd love for you
to describe Hillary.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
That's interesting and I haven't thought about that specifically.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I would say that she's high energy.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I would say she runs like on a high energy,
but once she she kind of maxes out. She really
needs to be recharged in a way that is grounded
in something more meaningful, like not just uh, you know,
mindless television or something like that.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I think she does get recharged by.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Uh, a deeper sense of something bigger. She's always gone
to church. I've always found her just a person that
we connect at, you know, three levels down right from
the beginning. So for me, I would describe productive, task oriented,
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but also.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Searching for that like peaceful.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Moment and searching for that deeper meaning. I think it's
a great combination, and I think you're grateful. You're grateful
for your family, You're grateful for the people that surround you,
a lot of good quality.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
That's beautiful. Very bribe Hillary, now, so.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You can see she's very thoughtful. So that I mean
incredibly thoughtful.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
Everything she does she puts got into So for me,
that's one of my most favorite things about Hillary is
the intent, the work she puts into it.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And nothing it's all again, it's the investment. Let's just
say that when she invests, she invests. She's also incredibly strong.
She's a fantastic mother and wife, and she is probably,
besides my sister, the only person I would ever take
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true advice from, to be honest, because it's it is
she thinks about the whole picture.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
She thinks about. If I was supposed.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Something to her, she'd be like, all right, well, let's
think about all the applications to this. Now, as she explained,
I could be very much on the surface lovel Therefore,
I'm kind of interested and she might say, well it
looks good, but let's think a little bit more about this.
And throughout the years I've always just admired her just
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who she's developed into I mean I knew her when
she was so young, and now to see her, you know,
continue to live her life, you know, build her life,
build her life here. You know, she's originally from Connecticut,
and ironically we met in college and happened I was
from this area and she married someone from this area.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
So that's just an amazing story in itself.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
But yeah, very family orientated as well, which is something
I've also.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Very much admired.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So she's capable of anything she puts her mind to,
which is always why it's good to have a little
bit of a firecracker.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Well, I love that you both shared that way because
you can see it with a lot of the posts
and the things that you talk about. Both of your
personalities and your perspective. Well, well, it's not meant to
be individualized. You can feel your chemistry how you're putting
things out there, and I think that also speaks to
really my next question, which you know, when we're thinking
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about putting ourselves in a position where we're going to
do something for the sake of something greater than ourselves,
it takes courage to do it, especially being we're over
fifty and we've consciously made an effort to do something
a bit different, And I'd love for you to talk
about out the word courage and how you have both
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leaned into that and you may may have faced your
own fears or insecurities, but you've still decided to go
forward with this. So I'd love to hear some perspective
on how courage is played a part in this journey.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I can speak to that first, I guess, I think
for me, even though this first step for us it
doesn't seem maybe from the outside looking and like it's
this overwhelming step, but for me and I think I
can speak to her in this setting, is like it
was big for us. It was big for us to
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share our personal things that inspire her and I. I
don't just share with everyone, you know, so it felt
very personal. So I think we looked at it as
a way to share, obviously a way to collaborate together,
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but a way to take that anxious energy and take
a step and kind of put faith in the fact that.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
We could be.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Brave and we could kind of put ourselves out in
this way that is so exposed.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
I live kind of very.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Kind of protected, and I think you do too, where
you know we're not just like spreading everything out everywhere.
We're very mindful of how we live and how we
lead our lives, and so you know, just to put
those intimate details out it did take a lot of
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It did take a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Of courage for me personally. Yeah, I would say absolutely
to a courage.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I could brand anyone and I could market anyone. But
then if I had myself, it becomes a very different scenario.
I also think because Hill and I were so committed
to authenticity with everything we're doing, these are not photoshopped
image is we don't have someone doing our social media.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
There isn't someone coming taking pictures of us. It is
not that.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It is those everyday moments. So that is that is
the exposed exposure and the courage that.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
You need to be willing to be like, hey, listen, this.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Is an everyday moment. And I can tell you one
example right now is I made a soup. Okay, now
I'm not the cook here. I'm like not goffled, So
I'm not thoffled as a kitschop a little more high energy.
So I want like instant, right, So I decide to
make this soup that is healthy, and I you know,
(19:53):
I just made it. It was a whim and it
was basically broccoli soup from I'm like nothing right, and
it's in a mighty mix, so it's it anyway. So
I post it, so no comment from her, but I
knew that it was like it's my version of cooking.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
So the next day she posts hers which is like
this gourmet and so, and at the end of her
picture she gave us off five stars. She put on
the post and I was like humiliating.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
The eating and talked about it. She's like she just
looked like what she's like, was it good? I'm like
kind of, but like that was a moment for me
in real time.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But if I wasn't being authentic, R like that's and
she did come back and give me a rating. She
gave me a star. I don't think anyone picked up
on but it was for you a lot exactly. But
the idea is like, I'm not looking for someone to
be like hopefully they some people are like how do
(21:07):
I Is it good? You know, maybe it inspired someone
to try that version of broccoli suit or it didn't,
But at that very moment, that was an everyday moment
that made me happen you know what can I.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Just I want to elaborate on that a little bit
because I was teasing you, right, And but the reality
is we're very aware of the different paths, even though
there's a lot of alignment of the different paths that
we've taken over the last you know, thirty years of
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you know, she's very like corporate and raising a family.
I was home and being like a support role and
doing all of those things that cultivated that side of me.
And almost as much as me putting myself out here
in this way feels.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Feels like such a different lane for me. Her trying.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Recipes and cooking and posting and all of those those
things that I've had the chance to really hone in on.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
It's great that you're doing that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Like I think that we've spoken a lot about like
bringing softness back into like an everyday life and you know,
appreciating like those cracks and crevices of the day. And
she's finding like interest and joy in trying those things.
And everyone has to start somewhere. So if you're starting
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with broccoli in the finist yes, as you should, you know,
and I think like that should be on there because
it's dabbling and she's putting it out there and that's like,
that's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
I had fifteen.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Minutes, you know what I mean that that was the
other thing, like, right, I didn't have that was the
get sure, you know. It was like, right, I'm gonna
throw all this in. I read about this recipe. Yeah,
really big trainer in la. I'm gonna strive this.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
And you'd probably time in between meetings where.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
I made a day of it and I bought all
my produce the day before and I make a bunch
of them and I freeze some and it's my mother
in law's recipe, and like I bring them out for
people at different times, and you know, so it's just
a different process.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I love I love this the story and the interaction
that you both had and the honesty that you just
shared here. And just to that point, so I sent
you a message Treata when I bought up her genes
that were not genes I would ever try on because
my immediate thought was I'm too old for this. These
genes don't speak to me because I'm too old for
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this and they're too hip. And then when I saw
your posts, I was like, you know what, I'm going back.
I'm going to try those genes on and I bought
them and I would not have done that had you
not put yourself out there. So it immediately inspired me
to play, to play with the edges a bit for myself.
And of course I walked into my house and I
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was like.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Check me out.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I did some spins and I was like, they could
wear them with heels, I can wear them with go on,
and I just took it to the next level. So
it was like just a little little thing that you
did where you were having a moment of authenticity that
had a multiplying effect. And I think that's the other
thing that I'm seeing and noticing with your brand and
what you're putting out there. It's creating has resonance with people,
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and there's a bit of a contagious energy to it,
and so subtlety and the beauty of that moment can
have such a profound impact. And I think that's the
other thing that I really want to drive home in
this point is that I think we over architecture things,
we overthink it. And the genesis of what you're both
saying is like the these are moments that made you
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both feel good. Yeah, and if it made you feel good,
it can make someone else feel good, and yes to
more of that in the world, which leads me to
my next question, because I would love for you to
share with us what has changed in both of you
or maybe how have you expanded as a result of
leaning into this now.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I think as you're doing things, you're you're feeling them more, right,
It's resonating with you more, and you're like, you're like, looking,
what can I share or what do I want to share?
And so you're kind of honing in more on whether
it is a product and experience a quote that spoke
to you. I think you're just, oh, I really think
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that this could you know, resonate, So I think that
that's a bigger piece.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And the bravery, Yeah, and I think, oh, I've definitely
seen Hill become more brave.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
That was for sure in other ways, not necessarily.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
The cooking part was already break there, but just in
an exposure part, I've seen that. And then for me personally,
I feel that before I started this, I rushed through
every single day. So I was like that case that
was really hard to acknowledge anything happening in my day
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and this has really made me not only appreciate the moments,
but look for the moment.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
And that was that's changed my whole dynamic. So I
look for those.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Everyday moments that matter because they do not have to
be monumental to be a great moment. It is also
in many ways translated to my family life. What are
the things that I'm doing that could be special moments
that my family can acknowledge with me and they can
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be again big, small, doesn't matter. We make something, we
go for a walk, we plant some stuff, we all
put the halloweens, whatever it is, or just to talk,
just to talk.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
You know, we're now starting to like potentially bring out
the backhand in games. You know, it's puzzles to me.
The other day I was like, Wow, I hadn't done
them in a while.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Maybe I think it's it's made me personally stop and
slow down and look for those moments every day and
then figure out where when I see them. Besides sharing
them with people, you know, in our community, it's more
about how do I bring them in and use more
of them into my everyday life, inclusive of you know,
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things I do with my family.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, the awareness that where are we rushing to to
what end. Like, I know, we all live and die
by our schedules, but why why not just take the
moments And I think, I think that's really really beautiful
what you both just said. And I'm also really curious, like,
what's what's been the reaction, what's the love you're feeling back?
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What are you hearing from people?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I mean, he'll just have someone that she ran into
that gave her some you know, direct reflection, and I'll
let her speak to But overall, I'd say it's been
really positive. We're not doing this for the likes necessarily,
but we are doing it for the fact of even
if no one's commenting, if they are taking from it
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something that benefits their every day that they're like like you, You're like, well,
I wasn't going to get those genes, but you know what,
I just saw him on her, and I'm going to
go do something like that that that's us is worth
a thousand minutes we have, you know, asked like, what
do you want to see more of? We can obviously
see where engage mind is on certain things, but yeah,
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why don't you.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Tell her about your recent one?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I ran into somebody that I know that I don't
see that often anymore, and she just was she just.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Like stopped me and said how much.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
And she was with her daughter and her husband and
just said, I love this Sunday you know, reflection, this
thing that you guys do. And and her family was
like laughing with her because she's like, don't I always
send you that the I share the Sunday reflection with
you guys, Like it's such a nice It's always like
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a thoughtful, thought provoking reminder. And I just thought that
was such a nice, such a nice compliment, because that's really.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Important to both of us. Yeah, because she's if she's
sharing it with.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Her daughters on Sundays, because it say reflection, whether it's
a gratitude, whatever it might be. That I heard, you know,
when Hill told me that, I'm like, oh yeah, you know, yeah,
that's so good.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
You know that that's that softness that you were referring to,
the softness, this compassion, this kindness, and like it's it's
this whole notion around we all want to be seen,
we all want to be heard, we all want to
be understood, and all of these moments just speak to
that sense of humanity and connectedness yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I think that your point about like, what are we
all rushing to?
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Racing to? It goes by so fast, and I think we're.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Just trying to slow it down a little bit. And again,
if we play any part in that, whether it's slowing
you down, making you reflect on something, having a special
moment thinking about doing something, and everyday moment you would
have thought about doing then those are the moments that
we're telling you to break. In many ways, take a beat.
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And again, we're work in progress. This is not like
we don't have it all worked out. We are just
being very honest about what it's really like and how
we're getting through it and how we're you know.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
The the light and our the light and the joy
in our days.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
But we're not dictating you go do you need to
do that. We're just clearly saying we've found something. It's
working for us. And in many ways, I think a
lot of times people don't present themselves right.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
They feel that they have to armor up in order
to kind of deal with every day.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
And I think that has been a process I've personally
been going through. In this process is I got to
take that shield off, because you know, I may present
myself in some way. That's not my intention, But if
I did, I want to make sure that that is
not You're not really seeing that as the reality.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
I would like to.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Live these lives because they're busy and they're hard.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
And when you think about anybody that's watching or listening
and they're yearning for something more or they want to
do something with it, what's your advice?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
A small step just to try try something new. It
doesn't have to be the plan. It can just be
all plan.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
You know.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
It could be a class, it could just be dabbling
in a new experience that you feel afraid to try
or intimidated to try, just to expand you know.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Your own comfort level. I think I think a big
conversation her and I have is like that over fifty
dynamic where you almost feel pigeonholed into a lane and
you can speak to this you know you had to
hit it, and I think you know you've gone down
this road for this amount of years, and so that's
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how you're seen. How can I be seen as a
person trying to cook? How can I be seen as
a person trying to share in a public way just
by taking a small step?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Because we can all keep recreating.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
You know, I think it's I think I said it
to you is you know you see somebody's bio and
you know, just that little highlight reel and you know
some are more expansive than others. But especially if you've
had a career or a big education, you know you
can the bio grows. But where's all the little bits
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and pieces. You know, it's it's not in your bio.
You know you have to you have to. That's where
I say, like, there was cracks and crevices, like that's
where life is built in those.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Little yeh, That's where all the grit, the pain, the
ugly cries are. Yeah, the cracks and crevices.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
And the sampling and the trying and the.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Failing and the embarrassment or the intimidation. She brought me
to a yoga class I don't know when last year
at some point, and I always worked out my whole life,
but I went to the yoga class and it was
a hot yoga.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
I was destroyed. I couldn't. I thought, oh my god,
I can't do this.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
And I was overwhelmed and hot, and I left and
I thought, oh, I have to try.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
I have to see like this cannot be. So I
googled what I had to do.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I realized I had made a couple you know, wrong
moves drinking cold water before all this is And I
went back in and I said, like, I have to
try again, and then I kept going because it felt
great and it's just.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Not feeling so embarrassed right you look about you, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
But the safety too of saying to her I was
dying that day, like I was sweating, perfect I was.
She had to walk me down this Year's and get
me a green juice and like replenish me and for
me to say, have a friend close enough to be
like I am, I'm going to hydrate.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Me right now and exactly what we were. But I
feel braver together. There's a safety in that, you know
what I mean. Not everybody has that, So I'm grateful
for that. You know. I don't know if I would
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do it.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I'm sure I would try many things alone, but I
think that we would try more together.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
And just as we were talking the other day and
I said, isn't it funny how you know Hilbo reference lanes,
I will reference like we put ourselves in boxes. And
for me personally, I felt like, oh, I was just
a working mom.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
So that's my box. I never thought that I could
maybe be.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
A working mom and learn some things that I wouldn't
have learned because or done often because I was working,
you know, in a different capacity, because you know, obviously everyone.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Works, whether you're at at a corporate job or not.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
And I think that that it is the removal of
those boxes that is because a freeing feeling that.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
It is because we are a lot of light.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
But then quite different that the free them and the
comfort and the acknowledgment to say you can go try something,
whether it's till it's a hot yoga class with me.
For me, it's doing anything, you know, I mean entertaining.
I mean she had to give me her playlist on
what is the wort? I mean, you know, this is
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what it comes down to. But that's the reality. It's like, well,
how did you do that? Create that and think of that,
you know, and that fascinates me because I'm like, hum,
but for that.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
She didn't make me go do my own I just well,
it's damn.
Speaker 8 (37:35):
And also, you know, being our age, right, timing is
everything you're in.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
The thick of, Like whether it's raising kids, or building
your career, providing for your family or in all kinds
of ways nurturing them or financially. That takes the front
seat for a long time. And when you get to
a certain age and maybe one aspect of that can
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slow down a bit and you can actually see through
that to not just say, oh, now, I can just
kick my feet up, to say, like, what did.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I always want to try?
Speaker 3 (38:14):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (38:17):
You know, what is there out there that interests me?
Speaker 3 (38:22):
You know that I didn't think would interest me as
I was had blinders on and in just running from
appointment to appointment over the last you know. So I
think to women also, it's men and women, it's be
patient with yourself and your timing. There are plenty of
things that are going to take a front seat in
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different moments.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Of your life.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
And it's more about just like kind of trying to
stay open to the possibility that's not going to always be.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Like this, right.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
And I think also when you're in your fifties, I
don't know about you both, but I feel like the
clock is louder, It's ticking much louder. You start to
really think about if not now, then when and what's
that expression, I didn't work this hard to only come
this far? Yeah, and so what else is there not
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to resign ourselves to what we think we're supposed to do.
It's like, well why not?
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Right?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
And and that mightn't necessarily mean if you're a working
mom saying oh I have to I've worked this hard.
I can't quit working this hard, it might mean i've
worked this hard at this Oh now I want to
work this.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Hard at some right or.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
You know, vice versa somebody else in a different way,
like you can you can pick up on other things
for your for your mental capacity, just to keep yourself
engaged in life.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
So true? Who so true? All right, So here's my
last question. What is next? What are you both plotting
and planning looking down the road for right now?
Speaker 4 (40:12):
So we have a.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Few things that we're looking at. I would say first
on our list is probably we are going to look
at some bespoke collections.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
So these would be.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Very thoughtful collections around things both Hill and I like.
So I can't really go into details necessarily about what
it would be, but just know we will bring to
market something in a very small way, but something that
again will be based on something we both love, but
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we'll involve you know, a lot of thought around it,
and we're hoping that in the next few months the
first one will happen.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Yeah, And I think that we we.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Talk about wanting to just push ourselves, right and again
that it doesn't have to be in this giant way,
but pushing ourselves with our different experiences and trying to
capitalize on that, not in the sense of like capitalize,
but like to push each other out of our spaces
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and say, all these skills you've accumulated, or all these
skills that I've accumulated, Like, let's collaborate in that space
and see in a small way what we.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Can do together just challenge ourselves.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah, So like you know, you know, as I said,
some bespoke collections, we've talked about doing or doing this one.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Podcast, we've talked about the podcasts. We've talked about writing.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Is there anything we can do writing wise between the
two of us that could be interesting. And then the
other is, you know, specifically on our IG channel is
highlighting women women who we believe should be everyone should
be celebrated, but we'll start to spotlight individuals.
Speaker 10 (42:12):
As part of the evolution of that channel, so you know,
at the end of the day, we'll have a better
sense as things evolve, how things work for us, how
we feel about them.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Like everything will be done in a small, thoughtful way.
That's probably the big takeaway. It will be something that
we're not going to.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Throw all our eggs into one basket, because we're saying
we don't want to be in a box.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
That's why we're saying we can do a lot of
different things. They may be smaller in scale, but if
they have a thought behind them, then well it will
be authentic us and hopefully authentic to anyone who, in
their views it purchases it, what have he engages with.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
It, which is the whole reason you're doing this in
the first place, is to put the good out there
and it really represents who you both are in the world.
And I feel so grateful to have made this podcast
conversation come to life and give you both a platform
(43:13):
to share more of this because I know this is
going to inspire more for you both, but also for
others to maybe take a chance on themselves, bring something
to light that maybe that they didn't have the courage
or were overthinking it and can see that it's just
about beginning. So I thank you both for all that
(43:34):
you're putting out into the world. I think Trinity Hall
for the introduction.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Yes, thank you, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
And I want to see whats best.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
Yes, I know for you too.
Speaker 11 (43:46):
We're so we're so grateful, and we've had a couple
of really nice conversations, all three of us, and they
are alone inspiring.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
So thanks, thanks for making Yeah this is an everyday
moment press as a highlight. Yeah, We're so grateful.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Thank you for joining me for another episode of the
Warriors at Work Show. If you are interested in learning
more about what we do at the Warriors at Work
Show and platform, be sure to go over to my website,
Genie Koomber and subscribe to my monthly Warrior Playbook newsletter.
I share everything that I'm up to month by month,
(44:28):
as well as some lessons and insights that I've learned.
I'm also interested in hearing any feedback you have about
this conversation or future topics, so reach out to me
directly on JC at Geniecomber dot com or on LinkedIn.
Be sure to tell your friends and your colleagues about
this Warriors at Work conversation, subscribe, review and rate us.
(44:51):
It's the best way to get this message out into
the world.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
Be well,
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