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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Warriors at Work Show. This is Genie Koomber,
your guide and host. This is a show for men
and women in the workplace who want to move from
the predictable to the potent. This is your weekly dose
of inspiration with an edge. I talk with CEOs and shawmans,
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minded thinkers and doers who tell stories, share wisdom, and
challenge each other to have the best life possible inside
and outside the office. Welcome to your Warrior Conversation. Hey everybody,
it's Gennie. Thanks so much for joining me here at
Warriors at Work and Happy July. As we reach the
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Let's make the rest of the year really count enjoy Courtney,
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thank you so much for joining me here at Warriors
at Work for what I'll characterize as a really, really
special conversation with a really special person. So I'm very
very grateful that you took the time to be here today.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Thank you, Jeanie. It's my pleasure. I'm so happy to
know you, and I'm so happy to sit down with
you and have this conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
So I want to start at the beginning, because you know,
you as a human being.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Are very very special and the work that you're doing
in the world is so extraordinary, and so I want
to start at the beginning, which in twenty ten, you
decided to take a very big trip to India to
study textiles for.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Thirty days, and that trip changed your life.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
So tell us the story. Yes, well, in short, it
was supposed to be a thirty day trip and here
we are fifteen years later and I've never left India.
I'm still here. So I you know, I graduated FIT
in New York. I wanted to be a jewelry designer.
I wanted to work for luxury brands, and I was.
I was working for several luxury brands and you know,
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traveling across the US and doing merchandising and training and
sales and all of that. So you know, my goal
was always this kind of glamor glamorous like fashion focus career.
But I was invited with a research team from my
university to go to India and study a type of
wool that is manufactured only there. It's called Kashmina, which
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we call kashmir Is, you know, very luxurious cloth and
all of that. And I thought, what am I going
to do there? But I was kind of pressured like
you got to come. It's going to be an amazing experience.
So I was like, okay, fine, I'll go. I flew
to India. I met the group there and as soon
as I walked out of the airport, I saw children
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begging on the streets. They were coming up to me,
you know, these little three four year olds, barely any clothes,
tattered clothes on their bodies, and they were begging for
food and money. And it was so shocking to me.
You know, I had done an internship in Uganda, which
was like a rural setting, you know, we lived in
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a mud hud for two months, and I saw poverty there,
but it was so different, you know, talking about urban poverty.
Seeing children begging on the streets, it was so shocking
for me. And it even though we were going through
India and seeing these amazing beautiful places, and the culture
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is so incredible. That image and that experience of those
children just stuck with me throughout the trip. So when
it was time to come back to the US, I thought, Okay,
let me stay and volunteer for a little bit and
you know, do something thing maybe I can help, or
maybe I'll just feel better about myself. And then yeah,
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once I started volunteering, I was volunteering in an orphanage
in the middle of one of the biggest slums in Deli,
and I just felt like it was the saddest, loneliest
place on earth and here are these fifty girls. It
was a girl's orphanage, fifty girls who just had no one.
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You know. They had shelter, they had food, they had education,
but they had no one who really cared about them.
And so my time there I spent just caring for them,
asking them, you know, about themselves, you know what they
want to be, what are their dreams, what is their story?
What are their struggles? And I found out that I
was the only one asking those questions. And so when
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it came time to leave, I was like, really felt like,
you know, I'm going to come back, And one little
girl said to me, No, you won't come back. Nobody
comes back and it's okay. She was like, it's fine.
Everybody says they'll come back, but nobody comes back. And
I just felt like, here are these kids. They're abandoned
throughout their life, not just once. They didn't just get
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abandoned and end up in an orphanage. It's a daily
feeling of abandonment and loneliness. And I felt that my life,
what better use of my life can there be than to,
you know, invest in a child who has no one
to just love a child and give them that support
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system that no one else is offering. And I knew
that I had a choice to make at that point
that I could go back to us, I can continue
in my career. And you know, we all love to
say when I'm rich one day, I'm going to help
me do something and I'm going to make a difference,
or I can make that difference right now. You don't
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need a million dollars to make a difference. You just
need a heart to care, a heart to love, and
a heart to give. Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
And so when you decided to go back, tell us, like,
what was the conversation like with your family?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yes, well, So I made the decision while I was
still in India, and I knew it was probably better
that I called my parents on the phone and told
them that you know, I'm coming, but it's only for
a little bit. I'm going to head right back to
India once i'm there. So I called my mom and
I was like, I explained it to her that this
there is nothing better that I can do with my
life than to invest my love, my talents, everything to
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make a life better, and that there are these children
that have no one. They're being abandoned, They're helpless, and
I have to do something about it. And I won't
be able to sleep at night unless I know that
I'm doing something about it. So my mom, and you know,
with my dad's of course his support as well, she
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flew out to India. She was like, I have to
see it. I can't say yes, I have to see
it for hand. So she came and she visited me,
and you know that from her experience, she knew as
soon as she stepped foot in that orphanage she was
overwhelmed with like sadness. I said, the loneliest, saddest place
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on earth. And she says that she saw me there
as like a light of hope for these children, and
she knew that I was exactly where I was meant
to be, so with from home, she told my dad
and that we can't tell her no, like we would
be stopping something beautiful from happening if we were to
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hold her back. So they supported me, Genie. My parents,
like people tell me, like you just said, you know,
I'm a special person and whatever people tell me, I'm brave.
And but I really give a lot of credit, most
of the credit to my parents, because as a human being,
it's very easy for us to make decisions and go,
but as a parent, it's very to allow our children
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to make decisions that maybe put their safety at risk.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, you make such a really powerful point about you know,
it's one thing to have your son or daughter move
to another city in the US to start a job.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
What you did is.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Move across the world to do something that no one
else was doing in a foreign country, dealing with incredibly
difficult circumstances and situations which we're going to get into,
because I think that's a really really important part to
your story, is not only where you are today, but
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what you had to do to get to this place.
And so what I want to talk about is in
looking at this, there's eighteen million children on the street
in India and one Life to Love's mission is to protect,
to educate, and empower every child. And so what I'd
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love to hear first is the early days, Like what
were some of the critical moves. So you were at
this orphanage for girls who were fifty girls? Was that
like the very very beginning, and was that the foundation?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Okay, So I was willing, you know, to be a
volunteer in my whole life and just love on these
kids however I could and use my skills and my
education however I could to benefit them. And then what
I saw is that there were children being rescued from
the streets every day. They're just being pulled off the streets.
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They've been abandoned whatever, They're part of human traffic, like
they've been abducted into human trafficking rings, begging rings. So
they're being rescued every day and brought into these shelter
homes or orphanages which we call them. But the fact
is that a majority of these children have some sort
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of special need. They have some sort of physical or
mental challenge, and that's you know, for various A lot
of times children with special needs are abandoned by their
families or they're sould you know, it's human trafficking because
there is such a shame culture attached to that still today.
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And then there are other factors, like they might have
not had any special needs, but the fact that they've
been abandoned to the streets and the life on the
streets have just traumatized them so much that they've developed
these kind of challenges. So I was seeing there's so
many children with special needs. There's no facility for a
child with special needs. And what happened was there was
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one boy. His name is Sunder, which means beautiful, so
we call him a beautiful boy. So he was rescued
from the streets about maybe twelve thirteen years old, in
the middle of winter. He had no clothing on, he
showed signs of being physically and sexually abused. He was
left to die on the roadside and he was rescued
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in the middle of the night and brought to the
shelter home where I was volunteering. And you know, the
children just embraced him, and you know, even the people
who were volunteering there. We helped him to like rehabilitate
and of course healthcare all of that. But he was
nonverbal completely, and with the amount of love and care
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and attention that we were showing him, he was able
to tell us his name soundre which is beautiful, and
we saw him he started playing soccer, he started, you know,
enjoying his life. And then what happens is the owners
of that home, they don't want to invest in taking
care of a child like this. He was epileptic, he
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needed special medication, he needed a special nurse on him,
He couldn't do anything on his own, use the washroom,
et cetera. And they aren't willing to invest the money
that it takes to provide those facilities for a special child.
So they sent him out to the only home in
India in Delhi, India for special needs children, which is
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just overrun. They have capacity for four hundred. There's over
a thousand children in that home and children die every
day there without a name, without you know, an identity.
And this most traumatic, like saddest thing that happened is
that he went there and a few months later, you know,
we were trying, I was trying anything. I was calling
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all over India, is there any space available for this
child in your home? There was nothing available, and a
few months later he ended up passing away there and
I remember going home and just crying home, meaning the orphanage.
I went back to the orphanage after I heard this,
and I just laid down on the floor and I
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was crying, and I was so angry, and I remember, like,
you know, you have these moments of like why God,
Why why this? And I felt like that question was
being asked directly back to me, like yeah, why why
is this happening? Why don't you do something about it?
From that moment, I decided that I will open a
home four children like Sounder. And my goal was that
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his suffering should not go in vain. If even we
can help just one child, rescue them from that same fate,
then you know it's all worth it. So that was
always my goal. Then I opened a home. I put
a house on rent. I found a nice two story
house like four bedrooms. I put it on rent. I
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had some of my friends come and help me volunteer.
We got all the furniture and everything, and then the
goal was, Okay, let's just rescue one child today. Let's
go out and see if there's one child who needs
a safe home. And that's how it started. And now
fast forward today, we've helped rehabilitate over four hundred children.
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We are caring for hundreds of children every day. We're
rescuing thousands of children from child marriage, child labor, human trafficking.
It's just and you know, our focus is still always
like one child at a time. Let's give that the
child before. Let's give them the best care and attention
and everything that they need.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Wow. So walk us through like an average day for you.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yes, average day. So when we first started, we used
to go out to the slums. So I would go
into the slums or the streets and I would do
what we call awareness campaign. So I'll say, this is
a special needs child. These are factors, like identifying factors
of someone with special needs, and then this is how
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we should respond to that, and this is the feeling
and you know, the kind of thought process that we
should have when we're dealing with people who are different
from us, to kind of just break that shame. You know,
nobody's talking about it. Let's talk about it. And then
from that people would say come to me and say, oh,
I know of a child who is being locked in
a cabinet. I know of another one who's being chained
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up all day. They're starving that one, they're abusing that one.
So then we would go with the communities, help two
of those homes, those some areas shunty areas, and then
we would you know, counsel the parents and we would
just if needed, work with the police as well, and
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then we would convince them that you know, this is
how your child does not cursed. This is not something
to be ashamed of. They're beautiful, they're able, and most
of the time the parents would give up the child
to us, uh, and then we work with them. So
you know morning tonight. We have therapies, we have i EPs,
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which are individualized education plans for each child, and then
you know what happened. So everything is organic. What we do.
We just want to help whoever is in need right
in front of us. So there we are starting with
our children's home or orphanage for special needs children. But
then there's still children who are maybe not special needs,
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but they're left on the streets all day. They're mostly
migrant children, so their families migrate to the cities for work,
and the children are just left. They're homeless. They're left
on the streets all day. Oftentimes the older siblings have
to take care of the younger siblings. So there was
actually a young girl, Ruccie. She used to her parents
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were constructing a building next to our orphanage, and Rucchie
used to roam around with her little one year old brother,
her six year old brother, and her four year old sister.
And she was just ten years old. And I used
to see her that she had no clothes, you know,
and she's just caring for these kids and the heat
all day outside. So I told her, Ruchie, why don't
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you come to our orphanage and you'll get some good food,
you'll get clothing, and you just stay there for the
day and the kids will get taken care of and
then you can study with us too. So it came
that day next morning, and then the day after that,
Rouchie brought a friend who was also like her. Day
after that she brought another friend, and then that friend
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brought a friend, and fast forward today we have over
one hundred and twenty five children coming every day to
our Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Wow, you know, you also when we were preparing for
this interview, you were telling me about some incredible challenges
that you had to overcome along the journey, more in
the earlier days, and a lot of people did not
want you to succeed, and that really would have stopped
a lot of people I know from doing anything further.
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But that just wasn't the case for you. And so
as you reflect on the journey, what I would love
for you to share is like, what's been most difficult
for you and how did you move through the difficulty
and if you want to give any context or call
or around, what were some of the bigger challenges.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Sure, I think the biggest challenge was finding people to
come alongside me in this work, because it's not for
the faint hearted. You need to have a heart, you
need to have the love and the passion to do
this work. So it's very hard to find people who
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had that, who really cared for the children as their own.
And there were some who came and they just saw,
you know, an opportunity to make money. There was one
instance where we had a group of volunteers who all
conspired to steal everything in the orphanage. They stole everything,
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they stole the washing machine, they stole the stove, they
stole the TV, they stole the rice, and you know
the rations that we had. They stole everything in the
middle of the night and they left my kids there.
And I mean this was a like terrible situation. I
got physically sick over it because it's so you know,
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it's such a betrayal on so many levels, and it
just questions. It makes you question everything, like who can
you trust? And it was very hard to bounce back
from that to then again let the wall down a
little bit and see, you know, who we can let in,
who we can trust with our kids, And then of
course to put all of those safety nets in place.
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Now we are connected with the police, we're connected with
the government. There's so many safety nets all around us
that we ensure that these things can't happen again. So yeah,
like learning the hard way with that. And then that
is the biggest struggle, finding people who really love the kids,
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and we have gotten to that. So we call them
our house mothers. These are women who are widows there,
maybe survived domestic violence, their ostracized from their communities for
whatever reason, and they also find refuge, hope and a
home with us, and at the same time they learn
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to embrace the children as their own. That's why we
call them house mothers. They are like the mothers to
the children and they're with them twenty four to seven.
And somehow, again it's all like God's timing, God's planning.
We were able to get some good women with us,
and now we have such a wide network of women
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who just want to come and work for us and
you know, love on these kids and take care of them. Then,
of course, like the challenge, it's always like, you know,
there's this saying, so like I am a blue person,
I'm like from a blue country, and then I go
into a yellow country. So like India is my yellow
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country now, but I'm blue. I was born and raised blue.
Now I'm in the yellow country, and I don't really
connect so much with the blue, but you know, I
connect a lot with the yellow, but I'm not actually yellow.
So now I'm you know, I've I've just kind of
mixed it too, and I feel like I'm green. So
it's like I miss home. I miss New Jersey, I
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missed my family, and I miss America, I miss my
roots and all. But when I'm here, it doesn't feel
like home. When I'm in India, that is home and
I you know, it's like you you become something else, right.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
It's almost like that's where your spirit is in India.
Your life's work, what you what you're supposed to do
while you're on this planet. You have found you have
found your path.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
One of the stories that I'd love for you to
talk about is because obviously you were doing this work
through COVID, yes, and India was dramatically impacted by COVID,
So I'd love for you to give us some context there.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yes, So when the COVID pandemic happened, there's we are
in a city Delhi where it's like millions and millions
of migrants come from all over India, even different countries
Bangladesh and Nepal. They come from all over into these
cities like Delhi because there's such a boom in construction.
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So there's a lot of unskilled laborers. These are migrants.
They're undocumented. They don't really exist here technically, but there's
millions of them, and they're homeless and they live, you know,
hand them out so they work and then that's what
puts food on the table for them. So what happened
when the pandemic happened, everything shut down and these people
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they have no home, they have no now they have
no daily income, so that means they're starving, they have
no food. So the people from the community, we had
made such a reputation for ourselves that we can and
we give and we help anyone who was in need.
And a lot of these migrant families, their children were
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coming to our daycare center at that time. So one
day we just had hundreds of people lining up outside
our door asking for food. They had nothing to eat,
their whole small children starving. So we started just giving
out rations, dry rations and enabling them to cook at home.
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So we would give like we call them ration packs,
and it was enough food supplies for a family to
eat for a week. And it became such a huge
outreach that the police and everybody came alongside us to
help us distribute. We ended up distributing over six thousand
tons of rations, helping tons of thousands of families through
our mech and it was such a bad situation for
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these families that actually many of them started walking back
to their villagers. We're talking tens of thousands of miles
walking on foot with their children on their backs, whatever
they own in a bag dragging behind them. They were
so desperate for help. Wow.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Wow, that's an incredible story. And I'm sure that also
helped facility because now you're known nationally in India and
I mean, that is such an incredible story that it
probably opened up a lot of positive relationships with the government,
with the police.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
So talk to us.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
About like how you have expanded this work to get
onto a national stage. You started with such humble beginning,
such humble roots, such a it was an intention, a
positive intention that you've now created this national presence.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yes, well, it goes back to the same philosophy that
we hold on to one child at a time. We
aren't though we statistically we are helping tens of thousands
through education, through relief, work, through you know, healthcare, all
of that. We have all those statistics, but our philosophy
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remains the same that until we help that one child
and really you know, find out what they need and
how we can meet that need, we're not going to
move on to the next one. And I think that
this is so unique in the nonprofit world. You know,
everybody wants to help that huge million dollar organization. We
will remain this humble organization. We don't invest in marketing teams.
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I'm sitting in my closet in my childhood bedroom. This
is where you know all of our documents and you
know forms, and everything is kept here. I don't take
a salary. Nobody takes a salary. We're run by volunteers.
Our board of directors is an amazing compassionate They all
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have that same calling and purpose to be here to
make a difference in at least one child's life. And
I think that that is what is carrying us forward.
And of course we need the recognition, we need the support,
we need you know, the news blurbs and all of that,
but at the end of the day, what's most important
is that we hold on to our values.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
That was one of the things that I really loved.
The uniqueness is the organization's run by volunteers. You have
an open door policy because again it's one child at
a time and one life to love. Is the only
home in New Delhi that caters to children on the street,
and I thought that was another really really important distinction.
So tell us about the long term goal. What are
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you looking for down the road when you think about
expansion or growth.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yes. So my goal with one life to love is
to We've created this model, this model of support for
underprivileged children, and I want to take this model and
I want to show it to the government of India
and governments of other countries and say like, hey, this works.
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You should try this and maybe or fund us we'll
try it in your country. So this model, it's a
proven success. You give children a support system, they will
flourish and they will become all that they can be.
So that is the long term goal. In order to
get to that point, we first need to raise the
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capital funding to build a permanent facility. So right now
we run out of a rented facility. Everything is run
out of rented facilities. We don't own anything because again
going back to the fact that we don't invest. You know,
whatever is given, we truly believe that whoever is donating,
that donor has a heart that I want to change
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a child's life. So we want those funds to go
directly to who is it's intended for that child. Never
you know, say like let's keep some funds aside for
this building project. Unless we had a grant which we're
seeking now, a grant to build a long term facility,
a permanent facility for our whole entire project, which is
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our orphanage for boys with special needs. We need an
after care facility that's for the boys who age out
of that orphanage. It's like an old age home. And
then we want to do the same with girls, a
girl's home and a girl's after care facility, and then
also our school for migrant children and our library and
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education center for girls. So that's our goal. We need
a two hundred thousand dollars push to get that facility.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
And I'm curious, how do you get Americans so it's
going to be mostly Americans that are watching this or
people based in the US. How do you get people
that are listening and watching to this conversation thinking about
getting involved in something globally when we have so many
challenges here at home.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yes, it's so hard to think outside of our own
you know, even our own lives, our own day to
day struggle. We all have the same struggles on different levels.
I get that question a lot, that why India, why
not here? And you know, yeah, why not here? Why
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not in America. Why not where you are, Why not
the issue that you're facing or that you see as
a pressing need. I feel like anyone who really is
impressed on their heart with my story and the children's story,
and you know, the story of India, that they should
look into it more, see how you can help, see
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how you can get connected with us, and give. But
I am a strong supporter of anyone who wants to
serve and give and make a difference in this world.
That is the best thing that we can do as
human beings is to give without any expectation of return.
Give to give, give to make a difference in someone
else's life. So I would encourage anyone who has everyone
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everyone should give in some capacity because we all have
something to give. Even my children, they give me so much.
I get the most I feel because I walk into
my children's home. I get their smiles, their hugs, their love,
their appreciation, the funny things they do. I get all
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of that. They give so much. So whether you're a
jay who is paralyzed head to toe or you know
a ceo making good money, everyone has something to give.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And I think the other thing that really struck me
about you and your mission is, Yes, this is global,
but this we are all into related. Yes, that story
you were talking about the young girl that's now going
to be a doctor. She's going to save lives and
you don't know where in the world she's going to
live and operate. And I think we have to think
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of this in terms of this is this is a
global thing that we can all play a part in,
and and good attracts good exactly, And I think that
is so spot on what you were sharing. You know,
my last question is when you think about anybody listening,
watching here at Warriors at work, what do you want
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them to remember most about you and one life to love?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
That's a big one. So I would want people to
remember that I'm just an ordinary girl from brick, New Jersey,
very humble family. There's nothing special about I know you
started by saying, you know you're very special, but I
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don't feel that there's anything special about me. I think
that I was given a choice. I was given an
opportunity to make a hard choice, and I made that
hard choice and it has blessed me in my life
and it continues to bless me and I know it
will forever bless me. So I want people to remember
that that we are all faced with opportunities to make
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choices that might seem difficult, and we should take them.
And for One Life to Love, I want One Life
to Love to be an example of what a nonprofit
should be. We should be non profit, we should be
taking like I consider myself a bridge between someone who
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is able to give financially and someone who has a
need for financial help. So I'm the bridge. I get
to connect people across the globe, and I want them
to remember that nonprofits we should be the bridge. We
should be the bridge between those that have and those
that have not, and we should connect them and that
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is our role to play. And of course, like sustainability
should come and we should be supporting nonprofits to become
self sustaining. That is our goal, to become self sustaining.
We don't. We want to see our impact grow when
we want to see, you know, millions of children helped
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the way that our current beneficiaries are being helped by us.
But of course we expect that to come only if
we're self sustaining. So I'd love people to see One
Life to Love as an example of what a nonprofit
should aim to be. What a beautiful way.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
To end this conversation. I'm so grateful for you. I'm
we are so lucky that there's someone like you doing
the work that you are with it, with your team
of volunteers, these incredible people that are also dedicating their lives,
and the incredible impact that you're having on the lives
of so many other people. It's such a privilege to
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have you here and sharing all this.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Thank you so much, Genie. It's such a blessing to
sit and talk to you, and I thank you so
much for asking these questions and taking the interest and
having the heart more. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
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Speaker 2 (35:18):
Be well,