43: Continental CultureQuiz Cornucopia…Of Culture!, Or “Guess C” (Part 1 of 3)

As the three culture-curious mates remedy last episode’s sangria-lessness with beer and chianti, Dean (our resident global cultures expert) challenges Tom and Torin (our very-much-not-experts) to play six of his self-written CultureQuizzes - that is, brief quizzes about fundamental culture concepts in particular regions - against each other. Perhaps due to their mild inebriation or Torin’s overactive competitive side, or both, Tom and Torin agree to duke it out over two quizzes about Australia and the Middle East in this episode, all in pursuit of precious points (and possibly a jar of Vegemite). Can one of the blokes understand Strine in order to come out on top, or will continued drinking over this three-part episode series simply result in ignominious strife? Listen ASAP to find out! ***Subscribe to Dean’s Substack here to find ALL of Dean's CultureQuizzes, including the CultureQuizzes from this episode and many many more. The next two parts of this three-part episode series include Dean's CultureQuizzes about Asia, Europe, Africa, and Latin America.*** PLEASE NOTE: This episode was recorded in September 2023. We are heartbroken by the escalating crisis in Gaza and Israel, and we invite you to give what you can to on-the-ground humanitarian organizations such as the World Food Programme and World Central Kitchen. Thank you. Have a cultural question or episode idea? Reach out on X/Twitter & Facebook (@OopsCultureShow) or by email at [e-mail]. Music: “Little Idea” – Bensound.com

Episode Transcript

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Now. Okay. We are rolling. Great.Right now. And everybody looks, uh,
good to me, so thank you. I thinkI'm loud enough. Okay. Here we go.
Okay, great.
All right. Um, .
So, well, I'm grabbing my beer.
Oh, okay. I'm.
Realizing it's gonna be hard to keep mymouth near the microphone and grab it,
but here we, oh, you'rehandy. Oh, thank you.

(00:20):
Absolutely.
He handed it to me. How.
Gly Absolutely. Are you with us, Dean?
I'm here. I'm here, man. I'm.
Here. Do you, uh, do you have aglass of wine with you today? I.
Do. I have a little, uh, chii.
A chiante. Ooh, my goodness.
You have some fava beans with thatalso for those movie buffs. Oh, no.
Nice . I'm.
A little, I'm a little scared. I'm veryscared. Oh, okay. . Um, .

(00:43):
Do, do you have a, aalcoholic beverage with you?
I, I do. I have, I alsohave a beer. Yes, I do. Now.
Are we doing this? Because in the lastpodcast we talked about the fact that we,
that I had said, when we sit down,we're gonna have some sangria.
And then I didn't actually prepare.
There was no.
Any.
Sangria. There was no freaking sangria. I.
Think it drove us to do this.
It, yeah. We brought our own. Becauseyou clearly are not providing anything.

(01:06):
So.
And I was concerned at thetime that providing alcoholic sustenance might not be
a good thing for the podcast, so.Right, right. I didn't want, I,
I said I would have sangria, but of courseI really wasn't gonna do it. Mm-hmm.
. And theneverybody said, no, no, no.
Do it. Yeah. We rebelled.
Well,
what that leads the listener to understandis don't trust anything Dean tells

(01:26):
you. is basicallyit every defined.
We've.
Done for the last five years. That'sright. In terms of, that's correct.
In terms of culturaldo's and don'ts. Right.
4,000, your podcast. That's right.
Ignore, forget Defy.
That's right. Completely ignore him.
That's the takeaway. That's.
It. Well, actually, you know, if,
if there is a listener who hasheard something that is not correct,

(01:47):
I would always hope thatthey would let us know.
And make, make sure you addressall of those to Dean Foster.
Or care of it's [e-mail]. There.
You go.
And I've never heard anybody say.
That. No, no, no.
So that means.
But hold.
On. Perfection thus far.
Perfection. It gotta beperfection. 'cause without,
unless someone actually says thathe's wrong, Uhhuh ,

(02:09):
he's always wrong. He's.
Always right.
Exactly. That makes perfect senseto me. Always. Right? That's right.
Perfect sense. And.
From this point on, now thatwe do have, um, you have a a,
what are you drinking? A little beer.
A little beer.
It's a nice craft beer from the stateof Maine in the United States. It's.
Uh, we, we both have actually an ashwhite, we're not being sponsored by Ash.
No, you're not. But I'll name it.
We could be. We could be. If you wannasponsor a sash, please feel free.

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I live in Portland, Maine. So let, let's.
Do it right. He's rightthere. He is a local. Yeah.
I've been to the brewerymany times. Fucking.
And as have I. Yeah. And it'sa, it's a, a lovely place.
Go visit it when you get a.
Chance. We.
Get on board. Absolutely. We'replugging 'em. And it makes a wide,
they make a wide range of beersthat are, are, I swear they're not.
Sponsored. We're.
Sponsoring. We're not sponsoredat all. We could be at all.
We could be Allagash .

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So from this point forward, however,
if I do get comments that the thingsthat we've said is not correct, yes.
We'll attribute it to thealcohol. Right, right.
Okay. Well, and I should name thatWe're planning to do three epi.
We're going to record, what are wedoing? Three episodes? I don't dunno.
We're gonna record three episodesback to back. That's the plan.
Uhhuh . So, you know,
we'll see how things go over thecourse of time as we consume alcohol.

(03:17):
There you go. You know.
There you go.
It might get, it might get alittle, little interesting.
You'll hear these over thenext several months. You know.
If I were a listener listeningto this, I would say like,
why are you giving methis warning , I,
I'm getting less and less and lessand less encouraged. We'll see.
Oh, what happens?
I would say this could be more andmore entertaining as it goes along.
Uhhuh . Yeah. Uh,very possibly. That's right.
Especially from Dean's. Uh, end.

(03:38):
We'll see what, what comes out.
He's, he's usually a drag and he doesn'tknow anything. You know, come on.
We know what's happening withthis. The cultural piece. Uh.
The culture is always acultural, well, here's, he's.
Gonna blow it out, is the.
Cultural piece, piece piece to the beer.
Oh.
Really? Here's.
The cultural piece. Okay.We spoke a lot about, in,
in previous podcasts about different,different drinks, different toasting,

(03:59):
different Right. Differentprotocols around drinking. So, uh,
here's to a successful podcast.Cheers. Here on Cheers.
Cheers. Oops.
Your culture is going.
Did I just say that.
You need to do that again?
Maybe we wanna say it again. .
What did you say?
Well, here's.
I don't even think he'shad much qui thus far.

(04:20):
Was that, was that ?
This is the sober Dean . Okay.
It's gonna get better for beer.
So there's gonna be a problem here aswe go along. I got a feeling. Maybe not.
Maybe he'll get better.
Wouldn't it be funny if you spokelike really clearly after that?
Hmm. Could happen.
With full engagement. Full eng.
Well, no, full. Let's not push you a.
Lot.
Yeah. I don't know. Come.
On. Well, in this podcast, that's called.

(04:42):
Oops. Oops. Your showing.
Oh, there you go. That was muchbetter. Yes, I think so. and.
Here. And here we are. Hello. Tom.
Peterson. Hello. Oh, thank you. Hello,Dean Foster and hello Torn. Welcome.
We're so glad you'rewith us again. Just Oh.

(05:03):
Thank you so much. I was just gonna notenow we can't cut out the previous one.
'cause we're talking about No, no.
Short say it in we, we leftit in and it's, it's a,
we have to because that's because.
I'm editing it. I'm not,I can't cut that out.
No, it's what it's all about .It's what it's all about. Right? The.
Editing machine is broken. So.
It's a, you're hearingeverything. It's, this is a, um,
you gotta understand the podcast.This is the way podcasts work.
That's what makes 'em great. That's.
Right.

(05:24):
That's, I think there.
Are a lot of other things that make themgreat, but, oh, this one of them. Okay.
Well, name three.
Culture, culture and culture. Ding.
No idea what he's talking about.
. I understood it because this.
Is what we, this is, thankyou. Thank you, Tony. You're.
Welcome. Let me drink a little more.Maybe I'll, I'll just keep drinking.
Understand more. See, normally when Icome to these sessions, I'm already drunk,

(05:48):
so There you go. It's like.
That explains. So it really.
Does. It really does. Yeah.
Well, that's kind of fun. We justhad a little game show right there.
It felt like.
We did bit and I heard Ding Bell.
And, and I got points,I believe, didn't I?
Uh, now what? Let's doa game show today. Oh.
Oh, alright.
Okay. You, what do you think?
Sure, sure. You, you got one in mind.You got some questions for us? Well.

(06:08):
You know, I think, uh, in one of theprevious podcasts we were talking about,
we briefly touched on this,
and then we've moved on to other rabbitholes that we went down. Oh, us? No.
Never.
When has that happened? We, we brieflytouched on a phenomenon of, um,
cultures of similarity. Mm. Right? And,
and the challenge that that presentsbecause just when you encounter a culture

(06:31):
that you think is similar to yours,
most people's knee-jerk reactionis to then say, well, um,
there's really no cultural differences.
I'm looking at more similaritiesand differences. Therefore, I don't,
therefore I don't have to understand thisculture to the same degree that I have
to understand a culture that is obviouslyso different from mine. Right. Right.
So let's.

(06:52):
So like, if they share acommon language mm-hmm.
If you share a common language mm-hmm.If you share a common history, Uhhuh,
, if you share a, anycommon, uh, maybe cultural similarities,
like, oh, US and Canada. Mm.Yeah. Us and uk. Yeah. Uh,
UK and Canada. Mm-hmm. Right. Orit doesn't have to be anglophones.
They're sharing similarlanguages, similar histories. Oh.

(07:12):
Portugal and Brazil. Thank.
You. Right.
Spain and Mexico. Right. And so on.
China and Hong Kong. Mm. Uh, Chinaand Singapore. Mm-hmm. .
Right. Um, Belgium and France,
same language.
Along the same line.
Although the not all won't they likebeat you up if you say that to either.

(07:32):
One. Precise precisely tomy, to my point here. Right.
We get blinded by the similarities. Wethink there are no real differences.
I remember that song, blindedby the similarities. Was.
That America, did they do.
That? No, that was definitelynot America. But Nice.
I like the tie in on culture there. By,by picking America . Very nice.
Well, it, it's the culturein the room right here.

(07:55):
I see.
One of them Anyway.
Alright. So anyway, we're, sowhat is that leading us to? So.
If 80, well, he, I'm thinking 80% similar,
20% different. Hmm. Okay.
I'm gonna assume that the differencesreally don't matter very much when I deal
with the culture and I'm gonnafocus on incorrectly. Hmm.
This is most people's knee jerk.

(08:17):
Reaction. Right.
You're saying 80% to 20% based is aperson thinking they know what's going on
between, um, the United Statesand Canada, for instance.
Exactly. Okay. Uh, butthe truth is though,
that that 20% difference thatwe're ignoring Yeah. Because it's,
the difference is precisely what'sgonna make the problems. Yeah.
'Cause there are differences. Yeah, of.

(08:37):
Course there are. Right? Yeah. Andthe the quickest way to say, say, ask,
ask Canadian if there are any differencesbetween Canadians and us Americans.
Yeah.
The Canadians see those a littlemore than we see the other.
'cause we sort of thinkit's the 51st state. Right.
We just sort of think what usAmericans. Yeah. Right. I know, I know.
That's a annoying and, and aggravatingto Canadians that I've spoken with.

(09:00):
Right.
So here's the thing. I wrote aboutthis in my sub. You did in my,
in my ck um, right page. Okay. And, um, I,
I saw that actually, but I didit in the form of, of a quiz. Ah,
so it was kind of like a culture.
Quiz. Well, I did not, I didsee you put a quiz in, but I'm,
I have to admit I did not take it.

(09:21):
Same. I, I, I read a little bit aboutit, but I didn't take the actual quiz.
Yeah. Uhhuh it looked interesting. Okay.
So if you haven't taken the quizeven better, because first of all,
the reason the three of us are here,the reason I'm here with the two of you,
I tell is.
This is is this an existentialstatement? Yeah. Why or what? Why are we,
why are we, why are we here, man? And.
As opposed to other people.

(09:41):
He hasn't even really starteddrinking yet. .
Not.
Yet. One of the reasons is becauseyou're, you're brilliant. Ah,
not that, not.
Only that. Well, we can acceptthat stars just move on.
I think the stars not think only.
That. Not only that. I love you bothdearly as friends. Oh, thank you. And.
Colleagues. You as well. It's verynice. We say the same back to you.
All right. Enough of this. But.
But it's a mutual admiration society here.

(10:02):
. Now you guys, it's a littlena guys know this stuff. You're,
you're into it, I believe.Let's see. You know,
we've been talking and examiningthese issues of culture.
I'm gonna give you my quiz.You haven't seen it, right? Oh.
Shoot. No, no. I have not seen it. No.
I'm gonna give you my quiz.Five questions. In most quizzes,
most of the quizzes gotta do are fivequestions, real quick, real easy, promise.

(10:23):
Real easy. He's setting us up. Don'tlook like total jerk. We're big trouble.
Oh, yeah.
And.
And make, get one total.
And . And you get the,and the answers by the way,
to the five questions aboutany particular culture Yes.
Are in multiple choice forms.Even if you don't know the answer,
just do what you did on the s sat t.
Uh, I'm, can I, can I, can I ratchet?Can I ratchet this up a little bit?

(10:46):
Can I, I, can I ratchet up the.
You're ratcheting up the stakes.
I am ratcheting up the stakesand, and the difficulty.
Oh, I'm, I'm a little scared.
Well, the, my, I wanna say before youget to the multiple choice mm-hmm.
,
I would like to give us a chance toanswer it without multiple choice.
And then if we can't get it, youcan give us the multiple choice.
Okay. Fine. We'll do that on the firstone. Okay. Yeah, that's good. All right.

(11:09):
I like.
That. And then after welook incredibly stupid,
we'll just go to themultiple choice. Yeah. Uhhuh.
Very quickly go to that .
Yeah. And I, I'm guessing.
Because I'm an idiot.
That's, I'm, we're gonna be able to maybedo two of them per, per episode. Okay.
Per.
Twos. Yeah.
S.
About different cultures.
Yeah, I think, yeah. I,
I saw recently you had done quizzes onsort of different continents, right?

(11:30):
Not exclusively, because I sawMiddle East, which is not a.
Continent. I do quizzes oncontinents, cities, countries. Okay.
Your neighborhood, whatever you want. Wow.
What.
Right? Antarctica.
Yeah. I, I would like to see that one.
I haven't done it yet,but I will. Okay. Okay.
All.
I may spontaneously do it here right now.
Excellent. How about the core of thearts? My, my answer is penguins .

(11:52):
That's my answer. So.
You're gonna, you're gonnabe answer, you're gonna be.
Correct. That's my answer toeverything Penguin. Most of them.
Yes. But, okay. So we do acouple over three episodes. Yeah.
So we'll get kind of likea continental runthrough.
Well, let's see. Let's getstarted. Right? All right.
We'll see. We'll see whathappens. Alright. Yeah.
Well, we'll start one.The, this is gonna be my,
my culture quiz now on Australia. Okay.
The.
Aussies in the, uh, and.

(12:13):
Is that supposed to be an Australian.
Accent? I what? Because thatit was kind of British. Wasn't.
That really wasn't.
A, Aussies were very sorry. It reallywasn't. No, I'm sorry. I truly, truly am.
Sorry. You know, as soonas we say I never do.
That had about.
God, I mean, these stereotypes thatpop up in people's minds, these.
Why was that a stereotype? It was justa lousy accent. . It's just,
I I'm thinking you could your dragonbeam be behind the, the bus here already?

(12:35):
What are the pictures that peopleare seeing in their heads now?
You have kangaroos andwallabies and, well, it's.
Australia. They havekangaroos and wallabies.
So I hear I've never been, I'd love.
To go. I've never been either.Yeah. I'd love to go. However,
I'd believe the man with the, uh, the,the questions here has in fact been, Ooh,
yes.
Oh, yes. In fact, the very first cultural,

(12:57):
cultural training that me and my companyhad ever done mm-hmm. ,
the very first one that got us outof the box mm-hmm. ,
and we're going back a hundredyears now. Right. Was a,
was a culture training onAustralian culture, huh.
For another culture of similarity.Okay. For Americans and Britains.
Nice. Okay. Alright.

(13:18):
Which was a real challenge for usto put this information together
because it's so much easierto put information together about cultures that are
ostensibly and obviously different.
Oh, sure. I can understand that. But.
Again, to highlight the, the, the fewer,
but therefore more importantdifferences between Australia and the

(13:38):
US and the UK was a fargreater challenge. Yeah.
And I think that's what everybody has togo through when they deal with culture.
Are we, are we going to, at thispoint, attempt to do two of these?
I think that's what you said. Correct. So.
Should we jump in? Isthat what you're getting.
To? I'm saying let's do it. All right.Let's do it. Let's kick it off. .
Alright.
So Australia's first.
We're doing a Australians first.Excellent. Okay. And I'm gonna,

(13:59):
I'm gonna give you guys the scenarios.I'm gonna read it. I'm gonna.
When you're in Australia, does itfeel like you're standing upside down?
Depends on where you come from.
I see. Okay.
Dean, is this one multiple choice?
Um, sorta of, kind of.
Oh, okay. Oh, okay. All right. Alright.Well, in, we'll see. Initially it's not,
initially you're justgiving us a question. I'm.
Gonna give you a one question andyou guys have to come up with,

(14:22):
with five different answers.Okay. That have to be correct.
Okay. There's five answers to thisquestion that have to be correct.
And each one's different.
Here's.
What.
I want you to do.
Let's just start with the first oneand we'll figure it out as we go.
Along. That's right. I'mgonna read you the scenario,
otherwise this is gonna gonna be a.
Five hour. Then.
I want you to identify five cultural

(14:44):
differences between your cultureand the Australian culture.
So we're talking the USculture, us American culture.
And Australian. Okay. Now, can I just,before we start, can I ask, uh, I'm,
I'm very competitive when it comesto game show type things. Um,
is there a point situation,
are we not doing that at firstor is this like a warmup?
No, I'm gonna give you all whateverpoints I want to give you for this. Okay.

(15:06):
Okay.
Great. Just for this one. Okay.
. Yeah. It's like the show thatused to be on after the Walking Dead. Ah,
remember that? Yeah, I think it wastalking Talking Dead. Talking dead. Yeah.
Uhhuh. And they just used togive it points out. Just points.
Oh, I think, okay. You're thinking ofat midnight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chris Hardwick. Yeah.
Yeah. It was a wonderful show. Yeah.Better than Walking Dead, actually,
in my opinion, but.
Oh, at midnight's. Great.It's coming back. But then.

(15:27):
There, the talking heads.
Yeah. Because talkingHeads not the Walking.
Dead talking dead midnight. Itis actually coming back. Anyway.
. Okay, so you guys, um,
listen to my scenario because you're allgon each of you are gonna have to give
me, we'll, 1, 2, 3, A total of five.
Oh my God.
Examples of the differences between yourculture and Australian culture in this

(15:48):
scenario.
Oh, okay. Go right ahead. I'm overwhelmed.
Here we.
Go. Nervous. Here we go. Yeah.You are meeting in Sydney. Ran.
Penguin. . .
And Sydney is with the y It's nota person, it's, it's the name.
Well, Sydney with a y couldbe a person. It's the name of.
Major city.
I think it's named after a major ALord Sydney, if I'm not mistaken.

(16:09):
That's.
True. Yes. I may be, I may be wrong withthat, but it's named after somebody.
That's right. Alright.
We're forward and we'realready going down Rabbit.
Hole. We down a rabbit hole.
. Alright. Rabbit hole numberone. You're meeting at Sydney.
Get back in there.
Are there rabbit holes inAustralia? Alright, here's the.
Here's, here's the question.Is Sydney the capital of of.
Australia? No.
No, I know what the capital is.
And.
What is it? Ken Burra. Yeah.Okay. But that's not the question.

(16:31):
You're meeting in Sydney.
I think I've already Sydney.
Ran later than expected. Okay. Soyou're there on business. Okay. Okay.
And now you're rushedgetting into the, sorry.
And now you're rushed getting to theairport for your flight to a meeting in
Melbourne.
Okay. Because you're going to anothercity in Austria. You've got two.
Meetings. You got born inSydney and now you're rushed to.
Andre, now going to Melbourne. Okay.

(16:52):
Yep. Because you ran over it.
Which I believe is flying south.
That's right. Okay. You jumpin the backseat of a taxi,
apparently annoying thedriver who asks quote. Ah,
too good to sit up front with me,mate. Ah, and settle in for the ride.
Mentally reviewing some unexpectedproblem moments from the meeting.

(17:12):
Like this is referring back tothe meeting in Sydney. That.
Already happened In Sydney. Okay. Yes.Like when you, I mean in Melbourne. Yes.
Go ahead.
No, in Sydney.
In Sydney. Right.
Okay.
We haven't gotten to Melbourne yet.
Not yet.
We're in a taxi cab. It's gonnatake a while. Oh boy. Okay.
Hopefully we'll get there. ,
maybe unexpected problemmoments from the meeting in Sydney.

(17:33):
Okay. Like when you suggested quote,can we table this for a while?
Uhhuh, and your Australiancolleague kept right on discussing it.
Or when,
despite how hard you tried to impressyour Australian colleagues with your need
to come up with adecision quickly, quickly,
they seemed to take their time andkept coming up with more questions.

(17:54):
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Well, hang.
On, hang on, hang on. Keepreading the scenario. Hang.
Wow. I don't have a buzz over.
We're almost finished. Okay.
As it becomes clear to you that youmay miss your flight to Melbourne,
you text them to ask if theycan reschedule for a later time.
Okay? Mm-hmm. , they respondwith a few available dates and times,
the soonest being several days later,

(18:16):
which will force you to stay in Melbournewell beyond your original schedule.
Okay.
All right.
I want you guys to give me now, oh boy.
A total of five examples in thisscenario that reflect differences between
your culture and Australian culture.
All right. I have, Ihave a, a question here.
Are we working together on this or.

(18:36):
We against each other?You got, you're competing.
All right. So can I, we just blurtthem out. Oh, boy. Okay. I can,
I can start with one. Igot one and I'm in. Oh.
Okay. There's buzzers. All.
Right. I'm in you buzzed in first.Um, table in Australia will mean,
will mean to put it out on the tableand continue to talk about it. Do's.
Like really upset. He'sreally upset because.

(18:59):
Someone he knew and table inthe US means to put it aside and
talk about it at another time.Okay. I have another one. .
So it's the total opposite.Total opposite. I.
Think he's correct. Right? I, becauseI, I believe that, yeah. Alright,
so I was gonna say the same thing.
We we're talking about languagedifferences here, right? Yes. Again,
language differences.
Different interpretations ofthe term table. Right? Alright.

(19:19):
So we're talking about the, and thelanguage that you speak in Australia is.
Is Eng is Australian English.
Strine.
Oh. Oh, really?
I didn't know that. Sst. R i n.
E. Okay.
Strine.
Is that a word for Oh, it's a, it's avariation on the word Australian. Exactly.
Shortening it and making it witha, with a, uh, a, a way of, uh,

(19:40):
a dialect Arine. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.It's Arine mate. Oh, no, .
That was better. That was a littlebetter. That was better. Yeah. Yeah.
'cause I threw ma in, you know. Yeah.
And I'm sorry to all thepeople in Australia. Really?
Uh, well, you know, there's, there'snow there's a lot there. We can,
we can dig into this. Well.
We can't, well, yeah.
We can do an episode onall, all in Australia. We've done a New Zealand one, by.
The way. We're down to, maybe we can getthis one done in this episode.

(20:02):
Okay. So that's correct. Right?That's all right. Right, right.
He.
Was correct. We needanother one. Wait, hang.
On, hang on. Wait, I gotta, I gottatalk about this for a second. Go ahead.
This is really important and, and if,
if the listeners are into Australianculture, I want them to know this .
Okay. Please.
Continue. Maybe they're into gameshows and they're really pissed.
You're gonna talk aboutit. , .
One of the aspects of Stride Yes. Is to,

(20:25):
is to shorten words and to addie. On the end of it. So like,
Brawley means.
Umbrella. Umbrella. Yes. Okay, I gotthat too. Points. Do we get points? Yeah.
Points for each of us. Okay, great.
A lolly is.
Lollipop.
Lollipop? Yeah. Or candyin general. Okay. Yeah.
And then there are those strangewords that are just very different,
like a cozy.
Oh, okay. I don't thinkwe should talk about this.

(20:46):
This on this show is a cousin.
.
I mean, really.
It's a bathing suit, youknow? Okay. But, you.
Know, oh, I never would've gone there.
Or as we might say in Britain, abathing costume. Mm-hmm. .
Sure. So.
Sure.
Yeah. Okay. All right. Um, eh,oh, he's coming in with one.
Okay. So.
Okay. So we got Tom, you got, you got one.
One. I have two points torn as well.
You have 250 points. I.
Don't have any, I havetwo. I have yet. Oh, okay.

(21:08):
Um, do I get a point for buzzing in?
I think you got Brawley.
Oh, that, we're counting that. Okay.
Oh, so we take that off of, we.
Take, you also got Lollipop too.
All right, so we take two. So maybewe're tied. So we take 50 points each.
I'm the points on this one. Don'tgo and give it to him. Wait.
What? Okay.
I'm thinking the points on thisone. Don't go . All.
Right. Okay. So, or ever. So.
The taxi, so in, in us,in US America, you know,

(21:31):
it's more standard to sit inthe back seat of the taxi,
but I'm guessing in Australia it'smore standard to sit in the front seat.
So there was some offense taken fromthe taxi driver when you sit in the back
seat, when you, they expectyou to sit in the front seat.
Oh boy. You know, one of the things.
Can I, can I buzz in and add to that?Yeah. Because not only did you do that,

(21:51):
but you then, when he said, are youtoo good to sit in the front seat?
You didn't move into thefront seat. Right? Right.
You stayed where you were. Right.
And he was giving youthe information really,
that you should have known aboutthe cultural difference. Yeah.
Because he wanted you to come up tothe front seat and act like a mate. He.
He, exactly. Yeah.
So your use of the word mate is anexample of what's going on here.

(22:15):
And he said, what's the matter too goodto sit up front with me mate? Mm-hmm.
. Yeah. And this actuallyhappened to me. Uhhuh, ,
Uhhuh , Uhhuh ,
which is where I drew this drewof the scenario. Okay. All right.
And what is he telling me? You know,
he's saying that nobody is betterthan anybody else in Australia.
I'm not your chauffeur, I'm justa taxi driver. I'm doing this for,

(22:37):
for the money. Hmm. You're payingme. We are equals here. Hmm hmm.
And sitting in the back, Uhuhjust sit up front with me. Right.
Huh?
Right, right. Yeah. Now this is a very,
very critical issue inAustralian culture. Um,
they even have a term forit in Australia. They,
they call it the tall poppysyndrome. So, ah, poppy.

(22:57):
I think you've mentioned that. Yeah.
Poppies grow to different heights. Yeah.Right. Some are tall, some are short.
Right. Yeah. If you're a tall poppy,
you're gonna get your head cut off inAustralia, right. Slice. Yep. Mm-hmm.
get, you get leveled.Right. It's a leveling culture.
So grow around the same height asthe other poppies. Gotcha. Okay.
I think we've talkedabout it lot that also in,
in connection with some ofthe Asian countries, other, other Asian countries in,

(23:17):
in that part of the world. Correct. Uh.
I, you know, you'll seeversions of this Yeah.
But for different reasonsin different cultures. Okay.
But in Australia it's verypowerful and I think Okay.
It really stands out forus Americans. Okay. Right.
'cause in the US the.
The tall hoppy getsthe attention. You get.
The attention, the squeaky wheel getsthe oil. Yeah. Yeah. You know, if you,
if you've got the expertiseand you bring it to Australia,

(23:40):
you expect people to just welcomeyou with open arms. Yeah. And no,
you gotta be on equalterms with them. Right.
Sure. That's interesting. 'causefor me in the U s A, I don't,
I don't think of that in the taxi whenI'm sitting in the backseat. Right.
I'm not thinking of it as like,
I'm not being very egalitarian rightnow . Um, but obviously that's,
you know.
Hopeful. That's in fact, in fact in theU s A, I remember when we were in, uh,

(24:04):
new Orleans mm-hmm. and, and an Uber came. Yeah.
We were using an Uber. Yep.And there were several of us.
And I went around to the front side andI opened the door and I said to the Uber
driver, um, is it okay if I sit in thefrontier with you? Right. You could sit.
A little, it's di that'sdifferent. You're.
Kind of jumping into their space.Right. Exactly. Right. And they were,
you know, said, sure. AndI, I climbed in. Right. And.

(24:25):
It's a perfect example right there. Yeah.In, in that small little experience.
Mm-hmm.
of a taxi of a very deepand rich and major cultural distinction.
Yeah.
'cause my first option was for me tofeel comfortable would be to sit in the
backseat. Yeah.
Right.

(24:47):
Okay. So we need to come up with three.
More . Uh, I can, because those,I think I can, those the two I, I had,
I got, I think I've got morehere. Hang on. I had him, uh,
I gotta go back through the scenarioin my head. Oh, I know. Um, okay.
So then he gets on his phone andignores the driver and is texting,
uh, about the, 'cause he's going overnotes from the meeting in, uh, well,

(25:07):
I think you're filling in blanks,Sydney. He said that, but Okay. No,
I'm thi well, I'm going there and then,and, and from the meeting in Sydney,
and then he, um, and, andhe goes, then he goes to,
he realizes he probably is gonnabe late for the media in Melbourne.
So he sends a text to them and in,
and he's texting them. And, and I,that may be something that bothers him,

(25:30):
but I'm not even going there. I'm going,
then he wants to delaythings and as a result,
instead of getting a Let's putyou back a couple of hours,
he's getting a couple of days.Yeah. That was the only time.
'cause the view of time is gonnabe quite different between the US
American and the Aussie.
Well, I think the view of time isin the big picture rather similar.

(25:54):
Okay. Around the world, you know, comparedto lots of other cultures. Mm-hmm.
,
I think the difference is coming upactually between Sydney and Melbourne.
Really?
Yeah. Huh.
These two cities are in like manyplaces around the world, you know,
you get differencesbetween national cultures,
but you'll also get differenceswithin the culture. Right.
New York and Boston.

(26:14):
Right. Sure. Or regions, youknow. Yeah. The American, the,
the American South and the, andthe s and Northeast. Yeah. And in,
um, in Australia there's a, there's a,
it's more than just a playfulrivalry between Sydneyites and
Melbourne. Sure.
So he's annoyed them because he was take,

(26:35):
took too much time in Sydney and nowMelbourne's a little annoyed that he's
showing up. Well.
Well, once again, the Melbourne, Mel,
Melbourne folks are being told thattheir second fiddle to Sydney. Yeah.
He's coming from Sydney first,where a big deal was made. Right.
And now I'll come and see youguys. Oh, and by the way, can you,
can you move your schedule for me because.
I'm running late?
'cause I spent more time it exactly thanI had originally scheduled at Sydney.

(26:58):
Yeah.
So like, oh yeah, sure. We'll take sure.
Mm-hmm. .
Yeah. So they're already annoyed.
They're already, can I, Ihave one more question, Uhhuh.
I have one more question on this. Isthis really question one of five?
Or is those are the five things?
No, this are the five things. Five.
Things. Ah, gotcha. This are the fivethings. Okay. So, alright, great. So.
I think we've identified whatthree, um, we have identified the.

(27:21):
There's a time element ora, a, a competition element between Sydney and Mel.
Yeah. You don't want, you don'twant table a cultural element. You.
Wanna tell taxi, right. The table, thesitting in the front seat with the taxi.
What about the idea that it,
that once the guy stays in thebackseat doesn't pick up on the hint,
then he jumps onto his phone andis going over things on that.
Yeah, I think you're right.Mm-hmm. ,
I think he just reinforced theopinions that the driver had more.

(27:44):
You are making this up.
Yeah, he did. He said he was lookingat his phone, looking at notes. Mm-hmm.
Well, he is looking at noteswhether they're on his phone or not.
Mentally reviewing some unI I happen to, I pulled.
It up. Oh, you're cheating . No,I looking on You could've done that too.
You wrote, well, what do you mean? Icould've done that? You could pull it out.
Well, the answers on, well, I could'vecheated as well, mentally reviewing.
There's a cultural point. This I think.

(28:05):
Problem moments from the meeting.
Mentally. Wow. Wow. What a, that's I'm so,
I I'm a Paul. I.
Don't have two more. So I, I I.
We need.
Two more. I'm a little stumped here. We.
Need two more. Okay. No, Idon't e I don't either those.
Three. I, I, I think I, yeah.
I saw I'm up to, um.
Uh.
Were there multiple choicefor this or no or No,

(28:26):
this is a wide open fill in the blank.I mean, a, a short answer. Yes. Okay.
Well, let me, let me see. And,
and he got into there and he's gottamake the plane still sitting in the
backseat playing. I.
Mean,
is that two separate things in the taxithat first of all sat in the back to
begin with and then didn'tchange once they said, I.
I just think that aggravatedthe situation even more.

(28:46):
So that's two. So there's threewe're, that's just one. Okay. Okay.
That's one .
Wow.
So there were two more points.
Two more points to go to. Okay.
And I, and I'll give you ahint. Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Um, .
Oh, wait, wait, don't tell me. Oh.
Wait, wait. Don't tellme. Um, the Australian.
Captain different show.
Despite how hard you tried to impressyour Australian colleagues with your need
to come up with decision quickly,
they seemed to take their time and keptcoming up with more questions. Right.

(29:09):
Uh, I don't remember hearing that. Well.
That's was.
Right. So.
What is that?
Maybe.
You just need to pay attention, Tom.
That's maybe that's that's, Iwas already coming up with the answers.
I always did that. So.
Maybe that's customary in Australianbusiness meetings to continue to ask
questions to kinda let the processplay out with more and more questions.
Whereas in the US us America businesscontext, we want to kind of get to.

(29:30):
Get to the point and getover it. Get the point. Yes.
Wrap it up and get out of there. Yeah.
I think you're, I I, you're right.
And I think you're reinforcingsomething that Tom said, Torin.
Oh, I think I get the points then.
Oh, no, I don't think so. No,I'm not saying that for that. Oh,
I'm just saying because you did mentionthe issue of time. I did. You're,
and you're raising time again,Uhhuh, . Um,
but I think through the,

(29:50):
the point about questioning atquestions at the meeting, right. Um,
there is this difference sense of time,
and you are really gonna see it betweenMelbourne Heights and Sydneyites,
but Oh, right.
But you'll see it between Americansand Australians in general. Okay. The,
the get to the point I, listen,I'm coming here with the expertise,
just listen to me and let's get thisdone. And the fastest we can get it done,

(30:12):
the better. And you're only,
you are only pushing your Australiancolleague to try to slow things down
because you're not being amate, you're not being a bloke.
So there's a re an anopposite reaction to the
kind of pushing for faster time thatwould come about slowing things down
instead of, especially when you, insteadof actually doing what you would like,

(30:34):
especially.
When you've come in as a tall poppywith all the answers to their.
Right. Right, right. Okay. So they'relooking for ways to chop your head off.
Yeah.
The, the similarities in the culturesare there, but here's the difference.
90% of Australians live alongthe coast. Ah-huh. ,
not 90% of Americans don'tlive along the coast, right?
No, a lot of 'em do. But not90% we're nowhere near that.

(30:56):
Right. Because the interioris very, very hostile.
Oh my goodness. Yes. Very hostile, verydifficult. Right, right. Yeah. Okay.
So in order to succeed in Australia,you've gotta, if you're gonna,
if you're gonna succeed at all,
especially if you're goingto go in the interior,
you've gotta build relationships withpeople and depend on each other. Hmm.
Okay. Or else, or else. You gotta bea mate, you gotta be a bloke. Hmm.

(31:19):
You gotta be somebody I cantrust. Uhhuh .
And that's the first thing that counts.
Okay.
So you don't come in with all theanswers. You go to a, you go to the bar,
you're invited to for a drink,socialize, somebody buys you a shout.
They call it a shout. Okay. You haveto buy the next shout. Nice. Right.
It's this constant interplay to build,to, to build relationships. Right.

(31:42):
And the,
the topography in which most Australiansdo live along the coast is just the
opposite of the interior. It'svery, very pleasant. Hmm. Okay.
Australians have said to Americans,why are you coming here? You're coming,
you know, 3000 miles. Youcan just go to California.
There's a certain similarity inthe topography where they do live,

(32:05):
and the, and the climate and theweather. Uhhuh, .
And it's more laid back, you know, throwanother shrimp on the Barbie, okay?
Mm-hmm.
mm-hmm.
. Right. So thatwhole idea of chill. Oh, okay.
Take your time. Right. And if we havequestions, let's deal with things.
Let's deal with the questions,let's get the answers.
And if you're rubbing me the wrongway, I'm gonna ask lots of questions.

(32:27):
Mm-hmm. Right. Slow thingsdown. And not even in, in, in,
as with a lot of cultural things,
I'm guessing that a lot of this stuffwould be done almost in a subconscious way
too. It's not done. I'm gonnafix you as much as it is. Um,
this is my reaction tofeeling pushed and rushed.
Right. Most people don't realizethat they're working from a cultural.
Place because it is acultural thing. Sure. I'm.

(32:48):
Unconscious.
Rarely do any of us. Right.
Right. Except you've annoyed this guyso much now that he's happy to be.
Now he is doing Yeah.
.
Alright, so we got four.Yeah, I understand that. Okay.
I don't have a fifth one. Uh, I'm,I'm tapped out. Okay. Um, uh, Dean,
we'll we'll give up on that one.What do we got for a fifth one?
Uh, you know, I, I'm gonna give pointsto both of you for the fifth one. Oh.

(33:11):
Because it's kind of related tothe first one that we talked about.
We talked about this tall poppy syndrome.
We talked about being a mate and beinga bloke and depending on each other and
building trust. Mm-hmm. ,it's all, you know, of a, of, of,
of a piece.
There's also this whole idea that whenyou look at the history of Australia,

(33:31):
where did all these peoplestart? Where'd they come from?
Other than the indigenous people? Right.
Ab other than the aboriginals Aboriginal.
People. Right. The, the cut from the,from the European continent from Yeah.
It was a penal colon. A lotfrom the uk. Yeah. Yeah. It.
Was a penal colon.
Absolutely. Yeah. These.
The, and Australians will proudly referto themselves as ies. Mm-hmm. Okay.
Prisoners of her majesty'ssurface. Sure. Huh. Sure.

(33:54):
So we all started out here all the same,
and the same happened to bereally way down the social ladder.
Right, right. So.
Anybody who puts on airs of any kind Oh.
Sure. Yep. Right.
Yep. Is immediately gonna bechallenged. Yeah. So if you put on airs,
like you come here with all theanswers, you come here with all the,

(34:16):
the solutions. Just do what we say asa lot of us Americans and Britains too.
Because after all, they were prisonersof her Majesty service. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
,
I would imagine that the Britts couldalienate them even faster than the
Americans. And.
I'm sure there are cases where they.
Have 'cause of the history. Right? Yeah,sure. Exactly. Yeah. Sure. Okay. Cool.
Huh. Okay. That's interesting. Yeah.

(34:38):
Now, this is one of the differences,and it's not mentioned in this scenario,
but if, you know, youwanna dig deeper into,
into the histories of the culturesof Australia and the US and,
and other cultures of similarities.You look at New Zealand Hmm.
This is one of the differencesbetween a Aussies and Kiwis,
because in New Zealand they wereimprisons of her Majesty service.
Right. Right. These.

(34:59):
Folks came a whole lot later. Right.
And they came often as landedgentry who were looking for more
opportunity.
So a totally different viewpoint ofthe mother country and that much more.
Much more connected to the mother country.
Than, and we have, I know we havetalked about that in the past.
'cause we talked about your trip toboth New Zealand and Australia, and,

(35:19):
and you were mentioning thatthen. And, and I, that's,
I find that very interestingbecause of the, the proximity,
the geographical proximityof the two countries and the,
the past history in the senseof both being from an a,
a large point of the poppopulation coming from, uh,
other than the indigenouspeople coming from, um,

(35:40):
the UK or from England itself. And, uh,
and yet being vastly different.
Vastly different. And,
but they're not burdened with thishistory of new prisons of her majesty
service. Huh. Right. Alright. It seemsto be a point of pride. You know what,
I I, yeah. Not, I should, I shouldcorrect myself not burdened by it,
but a point of pride.
Oh no, they aren't. They, they stillfeel very good about it. Right. I mean,

(36:01):
they, they were very, they're very happyto con to be part of, of that entire,
um, kingdom in essence. So.
Right. So.
Where in the.
Commonwealth? So how, how many, howmany points you guys get? No points.
I get the points without.
One. I think, wait a minute. Yeah.You think you get all the points.
How did he win ? I knew this wasgonna happen. This was gonna happen.
It was inevitable.
I get all the points, but eachof you gets a jar of Vegemite.

(36:23):
Oh, great.
Perfect. Excellent. I'm, I'm gonna goin and gag myself now. . Um,
actually.
Would like to try it.
Sorry, oie. I'm sorry.
I've heard Yeah, I, but obviouslypeople love it too. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I, it's a, um,
it's a lot of talk I do every year watchthe Australian tennis open Sure. Yeah.
Down there. And they alwaysbring that up at some point.
to the broadcast, back tothe us. Yeah. And the funny thing is,

(36:46):
because Australia has along history in tennis, uh,
long and glorious historyand tennis and, um, so the,
the people on there,
several of the p announcers and stuffback to the United States are from
Australia. Yeah. For, for all ofthe tennis, uh, broadcast. And, um,
and they will gladly bring up how muchthey like it. Mm-hmm. .

(37:06):
And I think they do that just toget to the other people. Oh, sure.
to get a reaction.
Yeah. No, I, I, I would liketo try it at some point.
Um, should we move to ournext continental or region?
Should we go on and do onemore? I think we should. I mean,
we're gonna be a little time pressed'cause I don't wanna drag this out too
long, but that's all right. Okay,let's do another one then. All right.

(37:28):
Hop on the plane and we'll gosomewhere else. Um, where's we go?
I'm say in Middle East. Where, where we.
Go the Middle East. East MiddleEast. Middle East. East to Middle.
East. Interesting. And I got, andI've got five questions. Well, and.
I lived in the Middle East for a coupleof years, so I, that may benefit me,
but I'm not gonna say itwill 'cause it might not.
I'm believing that, that.
I can you, I'm, I'm really sorry you saidthat . I really am. Because if.

(37:51):
You don't get these.
I'm not saying you're gonna'get so slaughtered there.
I'm not saying I might.
I'm hoping that you look ridiculousin this whole thing. I'm.
Not claiming anything. If, ifI'm hoping it gives me a benefit.
All right. Five questions. Eachquestion now. Okay. Multiple choice.
So, okay. So these are the multiple.Okay. So I would like us to really get,
again, I'm, I'm competitive. So let'ssay how many points for each Correct.
Answer. 10. Can we say 10if we get it right? Sure.

(38:13):
Now it's like there's no ambiguity.You're getting it right or it's wrong.
All right. Okay, great. Sure. BecauseI wanna a win and a loser Who set the.
Who's setting the rules here?
I do believe I get extra points becauseI have not lived in the Middle East.
Don't I get a, you.
Get a headstart. 20 extra points. Thereyou go. You get a handicap already.
You can get.
Extra.
Mental points.
Mental points.
in your head.
He's already got the mentalpoints. Points. They're a little,

(38:35):
they're a little shiny.Sometimes they stick.
Yeah, they're a little, yeah. They're.
You gotta be careful. Those headphonesare kind of bothering to get.
All question number one. Ah, here we go.
Okay.
In Shaah.
Oh.
Yes. Throughout the Arabicspeaking countries in the region,
which already means thatnot all the countries,
but most of the countries are speakingArabic in Shallah throughout the Arabic

(38:57):
speaking countries in the region.
A literally means if it'sGod's will and is used often as
a disclaimer for any statementsof intent. Okay. Or B,
refers to the Muslim prayers recitedduring the period of time between sunset
and sunrise. Okay.
Or C represents the sense ofcommunity and brotherhood that exists

(39:21):
between all the Arabic speakingcountries in the region. Okay.
Or d refers to the unusuallycool weather that sometimes
blows in from the northduring the month of September,
providing some longed for heat relief.
Oof. I wish I had gotten some of Dwhen I was living in Jordan .
That sounds lovely.Okay. I I have my answer.

(39:43):
Um, I, well, I I have an answer. I hada, I have an answer you didn't say, but,
uh, now, okay, I have an answer. I have an answer.
Should we.
Say 'em at the same time? Yes. 3, 2, 1. A.
Inah, you are both right. .
Alah.
Maha.
I was just, I was just wonderingif in some way, not directly,

(40:05):
because a was the clearly the, thecorrect answer as I knew it. Oh, well.
Now we're getting arrogant.
Well, I'm a little arrogantabout it. Yeah. . But,
but I thought that the other two,the second and third choices,
B and C I thought were kindof had a sort of tie in
in the sense that, that it's a phraseused throughout that entire region.

(40:26):
Yeah. Well one was a prayer.
Right? And so, yeah. AndI, I forget what sea was,
but the winds kind oftook that away from me.
'cause I thought you were gonna say allof the above at some point and that was
gonna be a trick question. Yeah.
I wouldn't do that. No,I wouldn't do that. Okay.
The third one was representingthe community and brotherhood that exists between
all Arabic speaking countries in theregion, which doesn't exist exist.
But, but I thought that wouldbe a way of tying them together,

(40:48):
is that they all sayit, but, Hmm. Nah. Well.
This is true. They do all say it.
It's one thing your quiz shakedoesn't really tie together.
. Alright, so each have 10 points.
Great. But I got points, so I'mgood. So I'm ahead 30 to 10. Now the.
Point being, oh, we're not countingthe other one point being here.
If you're not of the con of theregion, you gotta re remember that.
If somebody says, you know, uh, Ahmed,

(41:09):
are you gonna send me the document byTuesday? And Ahmed goes, ah, absolutely.
Tuesday, you'll have it on your deskin Shaah, right? Maybe you will. Yeah,
maybe.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe you won't and you can't go backto Ahmed and complain about it because
he's gonna go, I did my.
Best. Yeah. Yeah.
It wasn't up to me. It was up to.
A force beyond me. Yes, exactly.Uhhuh. . Okay.

(41:29):
Alright.
Number two.
All right.
In Saudi Arabia.
Oh, okay.
Wasta. Okay.
A refers to the traditionalmale daily business dress.
Okay.
Okay. That's male. M a l e. Okay.
Uhhuh.
B refers to the requirement for everyguest at the table to eat everything that

(41:50):
is served to them on their plate.
Okay.
C is a term referring to anindividual whom you need to know,
who will ensure thatthings get done for you.
Okay.
D refers to the traditionalfemale daily business stress.
Alright.
All right.

(42:10):
I have my answer.
A, B, C, or D.
I have a feeling I am at verymuch at a disadvantage right now.
. Um, so should I go first sothat your answer doesn't influence me?
Um, okay. For,
for some reason what C was what again.

(42:33):
A term referring to anindividual whom you need to know,
who will ensure that thingsget done for you. Yeah.
I like that one.
Yeah, that's the answer. C.
Really? Yeah. Okay. Uh.
You, you're both right. ,you're both right. Yeah. You had a,
was that you conferred with ?
Yeah, I did. I get.
I I did. I I did.
I was texting by WASA atthat point point. Being.

(42:53):
In Jordan, I definitely did .
You know, I.
Talking with Saudi Arabia, but.
Point being in SaudiArabia, you know, a lot of,
let's say us Americans godo try to do business there,
and they don't have contacts, they don'thave, they haven't built relationships.
They just think they're gonna get,
go through some sort of system orprocess and get things done. Right.
And you're not, it'snot gonna happen. Right.

(43:13):
You need to be connected to the rightperson and understand that traditionally
in this culture, you need your wastaand you are a wasta for somebody else,
right? Sure.
Sure. That makes sense. Right. Okay.
Now can I ask, 'cause I,I don't remember hearing.
I'm sorry, we don'thave enough time using.
Just quickly or usingthe term wasta in Jordan,
but definitely that that still existed.

(43:33):
That concept still exists.
Yeah. Um,
so is that a term that is used throughoutthe Middle East or is that specific to
Saudi Arabia? It's.
It is used throughout, becauseit's an Arabic term. Yeah.
It is used throughout the, I've heardit in dif different countries too,
but it is a major absolute firstrequirement in Saudi Arabia. Okay.
Don't put your efforts and your energyinto trying to get the document approved.
Find the person who's gonnaget it approved for you. Yeah.

(44:02):
Alright.
So we both have 20 points.
Yeah. Well, if you're cheating, we have20 points. That's right. That's correct.
I.
I'm gonna give, I'm gonna give bothof you a bonus of 50 points right now.
Okay.
Just, just for, just forhanging in there and, and,
and guessing everything correctly.
I'm very proud of myself forgetting that last one right.

(44:22):
I think. Yeah. And from the Australiaround we can say we both got 50.
I think we were pretty even. Yeah.
Yeah. I think, I think you did. Yeah.
We're we're tied at seven.
So we did questions one and two number.We got, we got, we got five altogether,
or up to number three.All right, here we go.
Cra cra cra in the uua e, United, emer.
Arab Emirates.

(44:42):
Arab, it's.
Emirates. Move your lips. I'll talk. Oh, there's no visual. Nevermind.
Cra is a yes,
a kind of savory donut that is a verypopular food used to break the Ramadan
fast each night at sunset. Yum.
B What was that?
I said yum, yum.

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I don't think a little.
Little comments there. It was allowed.
Don't don't we have a box of cra?
I wish, I wish we did. Someone shouldhave brought the bcra. Go ahead.
I'm sorry. Go ahead.
Someone always should breathe the cra.
.
Especially when you hearwhat it actually is. .
So ignore that one. .
Yeah. No, actually that's, I I already.

(45:23):
Know the answer.
But it's okay. Okay.
A rah in the u a e is nowwe're up to B literally
translates from Arabicinto the word tomorrow,
but it typically refers to anambiguous timeframe that occurs any day
after today. Okay.
C Okay. I'm also, I'm, I'm alsoparticipating in this one under protest.

(45:47):
But but go ahead.
I thought you was gonna sayunder the influence, which Well.
That too, that too. I'm about, I'malmost two thirds of the way through my,
I'm sorry, go ahead. Go ahead. Alright.
You ready for C? No, I'm ready. Okay.
Ra is a derogatory term used bysome Arabic speakers in Gulf Arabia
to describe Arabic speakersoutside of Gulf Arabia.
Okay.

(46:08):
Like, I guess that wouldbe like Egyptians or.
Tunisians. Okay. Or Torrent.
Right, right. . Good.It's very clever of you, Tom.
Thank.
You. And three, I get pointsLast, last possible answer.
Cra d refers to a specifichand gesture used by
drivers, especially in heavy traffic.

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Okay. Okay.
A, B, C, or D Well.
I know the answer so you shouldgo first. Can you repeat that?
A kind of savory donut.
Yeah.
Yeah. Literally translatesinto the word tomorrow.
Right. But a widerversion. Yeah, go ahead.
A derogatory term to describeother speakers of Arabic. Arabic.

(46:52):
Mm-hmm. , and then the,and the hand gesture by the, um,
by the taxi driver.That could be Okay. Um,
I'm gonna go with a.
The donut. Yeah, yeah. Wrong.
Okay. Well you already eliminated it.Sounds delicious. The answer is B,
tomorrow.
Tomorrow.
And tomorrow. Tomorrow.
So when Ahmed says you'llhave that document in Shaah on

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your ra in Shaah.
Ra on Tuesday.
In cra that means.
I was singing tomorrow from Annie rightthere. . That's what I was doing.
Ra So you never asked the, neverasked the question. Um, can, uh,
you know, when, can yousend me the document?
Because Ahmed's gonna say tomorrow.Mm. I'll send it to you tomorrow. Yes.

(47:39):
You'll have it on yourdesk on Tuesday. No, no.
Any time after today is any time.
It's, it's fungible. Yeah, sure.
Very.
Fungible.
In, in the US there's a, there'sa, a phrase, not really a phrase,
but there is a, um, a shortenedphrase that is used all the time,
which is a s a p mm-hmm. ,
which means as soon as possible andthe keyword in that is possible. Right,

(48:01):
right. Because people think that meansI'm getting done right now, like.
10 Min five, 10.
Minutes and it often meansyou'll get it. Sometime I'll.
Do my best. Yeah.
Right. In.
Fact, yeah, it's, it's true. It's very.
Similar. So along thoselines, that's a good.
Connection. Yeah. And in fact,I, I've had someone say to me,
what do you Americans get soupset about when I didn't get the,
this guy was from Taiwan.Mm-hmm. And he, and, and,

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and he was mystified of the Americanreaction when they didn't get what he said
he was gonna send.
He said it wasn't possible for meto send it until I could send it. I.
Did my best. And that's.
What it says. Right, right.
As soon as possible. Yep. No, that'sa good connection. Yeah. Right.
'cause some people, like you said, thinkthat's immediate and some folks Yeah.
When I can get to.
You think I'm gonna getto it. Right. Right. Yeah.
So what kind of strategy do you haveto employ then you you can't say things

(48:45):
like as soon as possible.
You have to be more clear.
In what you need on whatday Can you send it to me?
Okay. More, more.
Specific or, or you have to acceptthat. Okay. It's, it's gonna.
It's gonna come down the road that's.
Possible. That might notbe in check or, you know.
Because they may not.
And also I've got a feeling if I do thatin the wrong way in Australia, ,
they're gonna get annoyed withme and, uh, drag it out even.

(49:07):
Longer. Well, I think, I think thestrategies have to be different. Yeah.
You very differentcultural issues going on.
And for me and Jordan, I really had toget used to that to accept that. Right.
Okay. That doesn't necessarily meantomorrow. And I, I realized that,
and that's . That's okay.
Tomorrow's any day other than today. Yeah.
Or a, it's the same thing in the cultureof plumbers in the United States. Yeah.

(49:29):
Um.
Well now we can talk, like, have a wholesession, session, a whole episode on,
on.
On people who do utilitywork in the United States.
Contract, fun.
Culture and, and another cultures. Sure.Absolutely. All right. Cool. That's,
that's coming up, uh,later on, but not now.
Let explain out that I'm in the lead.
All right. Oh, well he.
Needed to point that out.
He did point it out. That'svery cultural right there. He.

(49:49):
Didn't ask me to point it out.That's, no, he pointed it out. Oh.
Well, I'm right. Yeah.I'm, I got the story.
Here in front of, we're, we're doingthree of these episodes in a row here,
and it's already gettingvicious, but the next two,
there will be a differentproducer. There will be.
Blood and not the movie.
Go ahead, Dean. Numberfour, moving on. Yes.
And number four, Les Les in Kuwait.

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In Kuwait. Okay.
Literally means get out of my face.
And is a harsh and negative statementused as an expression of frustration and
anger.
Okay. Okay.
B literally means I'vejust eaten. Thank you.
And used usually as a way of notobligating someone to invite you to a
meal out of hospitality. Hmm.

(50:33):
Huh.
C literally means no worries and isguaranteed to bring a smile to your Gulf
Arabian colleague when you use it. Okay.
D literally means I could never do that.
And is a polite way of refusing to dosomething by alluding to the fact that you
don't have the authority to do so, eventhough you would like to help very much.

(50:57):
Wow.
I have no idea B I'm saying d.
B Tom, you say ash literallymeans I've just eaten. Thank you.
And used usually as a wayof not obligating someone to invite you to a meal out
of hospitality.
Yes. Okay. And I'm saying d.
D literally means I could never do that.

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And as a polite way of refusing to dosomething by alluding to the fact that you
don't have the authority to do so. Yeah.
Even though you would like to help outvery much. Uhhuh. . Yeah.
The answer is C oh.
I c was my second guess. .Nah. Oh, wow. Half points,
five points. No.

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It's like the s a t if you don't know.
C c. Yeah, right. I wasgonna say that. Yeah.
Literally means no worries. Sowhen you complain at the things,
when you complain to Achmed thatit hasn't showed up, he goes,
Maha Maha.
Alh. No worries. Yeah, I'm not familiarwith that one. Okay. Alright. Alright.
No, no harm, no foul on thatone. No. No. Okay. Chill.

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It means chill. Chill.
Baby. Leave it alone.
It'll work out. Chill. Let's,uh, go to the last one. Number.
Five, number. No, I'm nervous.Number five. Number five. And we're.
Leaving, we're still in the Middle East,
but we're leaving the ArabArabic speaking world. Oh.
And we are now the word sabra in Israel.
Ah huh. Uh, I know the hummus .

(52:23):
Is that the same? I.
Think I, I might knowthis one. Wait minute.
He knows the Go ahead.
I'm not.
He knows the hummus. Really? Theparticular brand. Yes.
Hummus. Now, well, that.
That may be helpful.
Maybe.
In Israel is gonna behummus, but, okay. Well.
Yeah, sure. . Oh, yes.
Sabra in Israel,
A refers to anyone in Israelwho denigrates the Zionist mission of a homeland

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for the Jewish people.
Hmm. Okay.
B is a derogatory term used by someIsraelis of Eastern European heritage
to describe Israelis ofNorth African heritage.
Okay.
C Sabra is an antiquesword unique to the region,
the design of which is believed to havecome down since biblical times from the

(53:10):
ancient Israelites. Okay.
Or d refers to individuals born inIsrael who behave according to the
Israeli stereotype of beingbrash at first and then warm and
friendly over time. Oh.
Boy. Can you repeat A.
Refers to anyone in Israel who denigratesthe Zionist mission of a homeland for

(53:32):
the Jewish people. Okay.
C.
I'm also gonna go C.
The sword. Yeah. Wrong. Ah.
Really? I was really kind ofhoping it was C uh, uh, that's,
that's why Yeah. I had no idea.
Yeah.
Sabra refers to individuals born inIsrael who behave according to the Israeli
stereotype of being brash at first.Huh. Then warm and friendly over time,

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because the word sabra is theHebrew word for the prickly pear.
Okay. The fruit of the prickly pear. Yeah.
Oh.
So it's prickly on the outside when first.
Meet, then when you get in there.
Yeah. They question you. They, they,they, they're kind of in your face. Uh,
yeah. Challenge you. Uhhuh ,uh, they're in a rush. Listen,
Israelis don't have time forthings, you know? Right, right.

(54:16):
Everything is always an emergency. Sure.
Or at least historically hasbeen uhhuh . Right.
So let's not waste time even withniceties necessarily. Yeah. If I,
if you don't say something more direct,if you say something I don't like,
I'm gonna tell you Yeah. I'min your face. But over time,
we're gonna build atrusting, loving, warm,
and long-term relationship. So that's.

(54:37):
All right. That concept. So this.
Once you get through the pricklystuff, it's sweet and juicy.
So, I'm sorry, is sabra that thatconcept or is that a a a person is No.
It's a concept. It's a concept.It's a cultural concept.
Alright. Interesting. Alright.
Ah, that's cool.
Yeah, it's good to know. It's that,that's very interesting. Yeah.
I'll remember the prickle pear and it'sinteresting that there's a company brand

(54:59):
name Yeah. For that, for,for the hummus. Maybe.
There's prickle P in the,in the, could be the hummus.
Could be . Well, I, I,
I found it all very interesting. Yeah.
And I'm looking forwardto doing it again. Again.
I learned some real interestingthings. Yeah, absolutely. Uh,
so thank you Dean for that, forputting it together. And I'm.
Still in the lead, so I'm.

(55:19):
I'm, and I think I won, actually.No, I won. Going away we're,
we have two more episodes. I'm prettysure. I already won our November,
December episodes and I thinkI won this episode though. No,
that makes me one up. I'm in thelead, so, and you have nailed I am.
Oh God. And I gotta sit hereand listen to this crap.
I have 80.
And you have 70. That's our.
Points. Wow. Wow. All right. Thank you.Thank you. Moving on. All right, well,

(55:41):
well, we'll be back with youwith another, another quiz,
another couple quizzes I guess. And we'll.
Be continuing to.
Drink and, uh, probablyin about a month's time.
And we're still drinking except.
For us. There'll be.
A few weeks. We will have beendrinking for a month. It'll be,
by the time you hear us again, a lot of.
Drinking going on. Something.
That you can't.
For that necessarily do in a lotof countries in the Arab world,
in the Middle East. Right.
There you go. Discussed inour last episode. There.

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