March 8, 2025 • 46 mins
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S1 (00:10):
Hello friends. It's time for the second hour of Open
Line with Doctor Michael Redlich. That's me. It's Moody Radio's
Bible study across America. We're talking about your questions about
the Bible, God and the spiritual life. I'm my. As
I said, my name is Michael Melnick. I'm the academic dean,
and I'm also a professor of Jewish studies and Bible
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I hope you have your Bibles open and a second
cup of coffee, because we're going to talk about the scriptures.
So you need your Bible right there. And I think
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of things I do want to mention. Uh, first of all,
our current resource, which is a book called The Story
of the Bible. It's written by a friend of mine,
Carl Laney, and I. I actually picked this book up myself. Uh,
I saw that he had published it, and I liked
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it so much that I thought, well, I like the title,
and I get questions about this so often that I
bought a copy myself, and then I liked it so much,
I said, let's use this as a resource. The reason
is people wonder all the time, how did those ancient
manuscripts become the book that we're supposed to read every day. Uh,
how did it go from divine inspiration to canonicity? How
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did the books get put in the Bible to the
transmission and copying of the books all the way to
modern translations? And since people always ask about this, I thought,
what a great resource. How God worked through human authors,
how he used scribes, how he used translators. This book
will give you great confidence in the Bible, in its reliability,
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people have been asking me about a Bible study, uh,
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if you're interested in, in joining me for a Bible
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the Caribbean. Just go to my website Michael Wright. Org.
There's a link there with a picture of a cruise ship.
Click on that. You can learn more about that. Now
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we're going to go to the phones and talk with uh,
Bob in Chicago, Illinois listening on Wmbi. Welcome to Open Line. Bob.
How can I help you?
S2 (03:20):
Yes. God's blessings. Uh, Michael, uh, listen, I'm working with
a young man who's, uh, who's approached me. Uh, he's
he's a student over at Moody. Okay. And, uh, you
and I studied under you. Okay. Messianic. Uh, okay. And
it was in messianic ministry. Still am.
S1 (03:40):
Huh?
S2 (03:40):
Uh, but but he but he's he's the issues. I'm
looking for clarification. Uh, because we hear so much, uh,
it's to the Jews first. And yet Jesus says he
will not return Until the Great Commission is fulfilled, and
I need clarification on that point.
S1 (04:02):
Well, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what your question
is that. Should we not go to Jewish people with
the gospel?
S2 (04:09):
No, no, it's not that. It's it's the reason the
Jews were the ones that were to initially carry the message. Yeah, okay.
That's to the Jews first. But to reach the Gentiles,
the Gentiles who have become believers in the, in the,
in the King of the Jews has to be fulfilled. Uh, ultimately,
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before Jesus returns.
S1 (04:37):
Well, listen, the gospel needs to be proclaimed throughout the
earth in Matthew 24. That's during the tribulation period. Not now.
The rapture can happen at any time. Uh, but it's
really important to know that God always treats the gospel
message in Romans 116 as to the Jewish people pre-eminently
not historically that it went to the Jews first, and
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now it's not to the Gentiles. But when it says
in the Great Commission to make disciples of the nations,
what nation is included in there? The Jewish people. Paul
means in Romans 116 that the gospel has primary relevance
to the Jewish people, but it's for all nations. And
I think even even in the book of acts, when
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you see it going from Jerusalem to Judea to Samaria,
and then finally to the Gentile world, you have acts 12,
which is the end of the gospel to the Jewish world.
And then it's going to in acts 13, you have
the missionary journeys pick up Richard Longnecker. I pulled this
up right from my computer. He's got a great quote, uh,
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about the purpose of acts 12. He says, before Luke
turns to his portrayal of the Christian message to the
Gentile world. He takes the opportunity of presenting two further
glimpse glimpses of God's working on behalf of the believers
in Jerusalem. Luke seems desirous of making the point that
though he is about to portray the advances of the
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gospel within the Gentile Gentile world, it should not be
assumed that God was finished with Jerusalem, or that his
activity in the Jewish world was finished. Divine activity on
behalf of the Gentiles does not mean divine inactivity on
behalf of the Jewish world, or unconcerned for Jews. This
is a heresy that has often afflicted, afflicted Gentile Christians
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and resulted in horrendous calamities. Do you hear what he
is saying? That just because the gospel is now going
to spread to the Gentile world, doesn't mean that God
isn't working in the Jewish world? And so if someone's
going to go, uh, uh, reach the Jewish people, that's
something that God is working in. He still it still
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has primary relevance for Jewish people. And by the way,
one of the things that happens whenever you go reach
Jewish people, everyone gets reached. What I found is if
people go to the Gentile world, they're not usually looking
to reach Jews. But when you go to reach Jews,
the result is there are so many Gentiles wherever you
go that you're still going to be reaching Gentiles. So
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does that does that answer your question? I hope, Bob.
S2 (07:13):
It wasn't a question. I'm in Jewish ministry. I understand that,
but he's confused. He's confused about whether or not he
needs to move to Israel to set up a church
in Israel, as opposed to possibly going out and preaching
the word elsewhere.
S3 (07:31):
Well, okay.
S1 (07:33):
You don't have to go to Israel to reach Jewish people.
The Jewish.
S3 (07:36):
People.
S2 (07:36):
Are.
S3 (07:37):
No, no, no, ah, ah. The.
S1 (07:39):
The, the Jewish people are the unreached people right in
our very midst. So hopefully he will if God's calling
him to Jewish ministry, wherever he goes, he'll go out
and reach Jewish people with the gospel. Appreciate your call. Bob, uh,
we're going to talk to James in Webster, Florida, listening
to Wcqs. Welcome to Open Line, James. How can I
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help you today?
S4 (08:01):
Yes, sir. I just wanted to ask, uh, it says to, uh,
leave behind all your worldly possessions to follow him. And
he tells the man to sell all of his stuff
and follow him. But then everywhere you see that, it
says to, uh, when you get to heaven, that you'll
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walk on streets of gold and live in mansions. And
I was just wondering why. Why is it to give
up everything down here? So when we get to heaven,
we can have it there.
S3 (08:36):
Well.
S1 (08:37):
Is this a genuine question, James? I, I just need
to know. Are you. Are you really thinking you have
to give up all your worldly possessions?
S4 (08:46):
No, sir, I'm not meaning about it like that, but
I mean, he he tells the man.
S1 (08:52):
I understand what you're. I understand the verses. I'm just asking. What?
What is your real question here? James? What are you
concerned about?
S3 (09:01):
Uh.
S4 (09:02):
What if if I make it to heaven? What if
when I get to heaven, I don't want to walk
on streets of gold. And, uh. I don't want to
live in a mansion. I want to live in a
little cabin and have fields of green grass. I mean.
S3 (09:16):
Okay, I don't. Well.
S1 (09:17):
Okay. Now, now, let me clarify what the scriptures actually say. Uh,
the the rich young ruler, he he was told to
sell all his possessions because his possessions meant more to
him than anything else. And and the Lord Jesus knew
what was in humanity. And that's why he told him that.
It's not like he tells that to everyone. Uh, and
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then further the streets of gold in heaven. That's metaphorical.
And and not, uh, not necessarily, uh, something to be
taken literally. And in John 14, when the Lord Jesus says, uh,
in my father's house there are many mansions. Uh, let's
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be honest that the literal translation, that's King James Version,
but the literal translation is in my father's house there
are many apartments or places to live. So it's not
talking about mansions, necessarily, James. It's just talking about this.
And what is most important is not how you're going
to live, whether the streets are paved with gold or
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whether we get a mansion or an apartment. What I
think is really the issue here is what what we
know from, uh, the, uh, Elliott, uh, Jim Elliott, who said, uh,
he is no fool who gives up what he cannot
keep to gain that which he cannot lose. We sometimes
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give up our everything about our lives so that we can,
because that's what what knowing him and following him may entail.
But we gain something by following Jesus that we cannot lose.
And that's an eternal relationship with God. And and that's
what it's not talking about streets of gold. That's a metaphor.
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It's not talking about many mansions. It's talking about having
an eternal walk and relationship with God that will never
fail us, that will never be taken away from us.
And that's what our goal should be, not worrying about
how we're going to live or where we're going to walk,
it's that we're going to be with the Lord forever. Uh,
and if you're listening and you're thinking, oh, the the
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faith is just pie in the sky, it's not. It's
Jesus promised us an abundant life now, an eternal life
with him forever. All our sins will be forgiven, will
be with him forever. I hope. If you're listening and
you would like to experience a forever relationship with God,
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all you have to do is trust that Jesus died
for you, taking the punishment for your sin and that
he was raised again, proving he's God and now he's
got the power to to live through you by His
Holy Spirit. Uh, I hope you'll put your trust in
the fact that Jesus died for your sins and rose
again and experienced that forever relationship with God. Uh, you
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don't have to wait. You can trust in him right now.
Just tell him by faith. Just tell him I believe
that you died. The Lord Jesus died for me and
rose again. And I'm accepting that in my life right now.
That's all you have to do. Just tell him, uh,
and and then you'll have that forever relationship with God.
We're going to take a break right here. Give you
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a chance to respond to that. Let me know. Give
me a call If you've put your trust in Jesus
for the very first time right now by listening and
hearing that and responding to that. Uh, this is open
line with Michael Ray. Dominic. We're going to be back
with more of your Bible questions in just a moment,
so don't go away. Uh, we'll be right back. Welcome
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back to Open Line. So glad to be with you. Hey,
I've been talking to a bunch of young people, uh,
speaking in different schools of late. One of the things
that I was struck by is what a great school,
Moody Bible Institute, is for young people as they finish
high school, people think, well, I need to get a job.
And so I have to major in something that will listen.
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The most important foundation you can get for life is
understanding how to grow your walk with God, how to
understand His Word, how to serve him no matter what
job you're in. And so I really want to encourage
you no matter where you're going. We're all called to
serve the king. And if you're interested in and no
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Now you think I'm too old to go to school,
but you have children, grandchildren really encourage them to check
out if they know the Lord and want to serve him. Uh,
check out, uh, no matter where they're going to get
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The Lord in anywhere they go. Check out Moody, Dot,
Edu and maybe even come visit the school. I really
want to encourage people to check that out. Uh, and
we're going to talk now to Doug in Akron, Ohio,
listening on Wtxf. Welcome to Open Line, Doug. How can
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I help you today?
S5 (14:45):
Well, my question is, I've heard in the past that
the Holy Spirit will convict you of sin. And I
wondered if there's any scriptural proof or evidence that it
says that that is one of the functions of the
Holy Spirit.
S1 (14:59):
Do you ever feel convicted of sin?
S5 (15:03):
Yes. Yeah. And I yeah. My question is, is that
my conscience or.
S3 (15:08):
Yeah.
S1 (15:09):
Well, I think it's both, actually. Uh, the Holy Spirit
is what our conscience will convict us of sin. But, uh,
generally it doesn't help us if we just feel guilty.
The benefit of the Holy Spirit's ministry is that he
convicts us of sin. So that we put our trust
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in Jesus. This is not talking about a believer. In
John 16 it says, uh, this is what the Lord
Jesus says, uh, in John 16 seven. Uh, it's for
your benefit that I go away. He's talking about the
ascension there. Because if I don't go away, the counselor
will not come to you. If I go, I will
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send him to you. So it's talking about the Holy Spirit.
He says when he comes, he will convict the world.
It's not talking about believers here. It's talking about the
world about sin, righteousness, and judgment, about sin, because they
don't believe in me. Now think about this. He'll convict
you of sin. Uh, maybe it's the great sin of
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not believing in him. Or maybe because you don't, you'll
feel convicted of sin by the Holy Spirit. Because. Not forgiven.
And then about, uh, righteousness. Because I'm going to the father.
He will convict people about the righteousness that is needed
to stand before God. And no one else has it
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but the Lord Jesus. He can go stand before the father.
And so it's sort of a sense of he'll convict
them of their lack of righteousness that Jesus alone has.
And then, uh, and then about judgment, because the ruler
of this world has been judged, if the the one
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who causes all the rebellion and sin in the world
has been judged through the death of Jesus, and ultimately
through being bound and cast into the abyss and ultimately
cast into the lake of fire, if that one will
face judgment. Anyone that that doesn't know the Lord has
that same destiny. And so there's a sense of I
will be judged for my sin. And so this is
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talking about the way the the Holy Spirit works in
people's lives to convict them of sin, righteousness, and judgment.
I often say to people, in order to get saved,
you have to first have to get lost. People have
to have a sense of, uh, of being separated from
God because of their sin. That's what the Holy Spirit
is doing. And then, uh, the result is that they
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will trust in Jesus, be forgiven, and by application, if
the Holy Spirit can do that with people who don't
know him, how much more will he do it with
those of us who do know him, in whom he
is dwelling within us already. So that's that's where I
think the scripture is for about the convicting work of
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the Holy Spirit.
S5 (18:04):
Okay. Thank you very much.
S3 (18:06):
Okay. Yeah.
S1 (18:07):
Thanks. Thanks for your call. Uh, and we're going to
talk to Stephanie in Cleveland, Tennessee. Uh, listening on Wmw.
Welcome to Open Line, Stephanie. How can I help you today?
S6 (18:19):
Hi, doctor Michael or doctor Nick. I'm sorry.
S3 (18:23):
You can call me Doctor Michael.
S1 (18:24):
You can call me Michael.
S3 (18:25):
You can call me. Uh.
S1 (18:27):
I don't care what you call me. That's fine.
S3 (18:29):
So.
S6 (18:29):
I'm sorry. Um.
S3 (18:31):
Hey, you know, I think I always like it when.
S1 (18:33):
Uh.
S3 (18:34):
There are kids.
S1 (18:36):
That they want to call me Mr. Nick. My friends, children, grandchildren,
they want. And I say, just call me Michael to
those kids. And and they they can't do it. They
call me Doctor Michael. I think.
S3 (18:48):
That's.
S6 (18:49):
Well.
S3 (18:49):
So.
S6 (18:50):
Yeah, I can understand that. Yeah. Um. Thank you. Thank
you for taking my call. I was asked a question
last night, and I, I know you've talked about this before,
and I'm sorry that I could not give a proper answer, but, um,
they asked me about salvation after the rapture, uh, during tribulation.
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And I know that, um, there's a remnant and there
was some something about that that you've talked about and
was hoping maybe you could help me answer this question
about the possibility of salvation after the rapture.
S3 (19:23):
Yeah.
S1 (19:24):
Well, at the rapture, everyone that knows this is my belief.
I believe in the pre-tribulation rapture. That means that, uh,
The the Lord will snatch the church up any genuine
believer to be with him, and that will happen sometime
before the tribulation. Then the tribulation begins when Israel signs
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a covenant with the false Messiah, the Antichrist. And that's, uh,
found in Daniel 924 through 27. Uh, that's the passage
about that. Uh, but can people so I think just
be clear, Stephanie, you're saying can people be saved in
the tribulation once the tribulation begins? Am I am I
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hearing you right?
S6 (20:10):
Yes. That is my question.
S3 (20:12):
Yeah.
S1 (20:13):
Okay. So, uh, it does appear to be so because
you keep seeing people getting saved in the book of
revelation after the tribulation has begun. So here I am
in revelation chapter seven, as I'm turning my pages here. Uh,
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and it says that there are 144,000, 12,000 from each tribe.
144,000 people of Israel. Uh, and they this is what
it says. Don't harm the earth or the sea or
the trees until we seal the slaves of our God
on their foreheads. Uh, and they are sealed to serve him.
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It doesn't say what they are sealed to do. What
how their service is going to be, but they, uh.
But it just says that they are sealed as servants
of God. And then the very next paragraph talks about
the vast multitude from every nation, tribe, people and language
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which no one could number, standing before the throne and
before the lamb, robed in white with palm branches in
their hands, crying out, salvation belongs to our God. These
are the people who get saved in the tribulation. So
it sounds to me like what we have in revelation
seven is 144,000 Jews who believe in Jesus. They get
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saved in the tribulation. They're sealed to serve God. I
think their service is proclaiming the gospel. Think of about
144,000 Jewish. Billy Graham's out there proclaiming the gospel during
the tribulation, and they win people from every tribe and
tongue and nation. And so that, yes, there's most people
don't realize this, but there's going to be a great
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revival in the tribulation period. Okay. There and there, they're
going to win a lot of people to the Lord.
And then those people who are from every tribe and
tongue and nation, they'll win people to the Lord. And
so I think there's going to be a great revival.
I think just as many people as ever, maybe the
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greatest revival in history will take place in the worst
time in history, in the tribulation period. Okay, Stephanie. Yeah.
S6 (22:26):
Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate.
S1 (22:29):
That. And by the way, then you'll see that there
will be martyrs in revelation six during the tribulation. How
can they be martyrs in the tribulation if if they
didn't get saved in the tribulation, since every believer will
be removed? So yeah, there will there will be martyrs
and there will be great revival. Okay, okay. Thanks for
your call.
S7 (22:48):
Appreciate it. Thank you.
S1 (22:50):
Uh, we're going to talk with Ronald in Elmwood Park, Illinois,
listening on Wmbi, our flagship station. Hello, Ronald. How can
I help you today? Welcome to the young man.
S8 (23:01):
How are you doing?
S1 (23:02):
Thank God. Doing okay? How can I help you?
S8 (23:06):
I am far from a biblical scholar, so please accept
some of my babbling. But anyhow.
S1 (23:11):
There's no babbling, no babbling allowed. Just go ahead with
your question.
S8 (23:15):
There's a. I'm sure there's there's a verse or several
in the Bible. Moses meets Jesus on Mount Sinai and
they and it says to I'm paraphrasing or whatever I'm
doing with it. That day, Jesus spoke to Moses face
to face. And I believe that there's another instance where
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Moses is going across the desert, where he goes back
to his tent, and that one evening and Jesus comes
down and he meets him face to face. And pretty sure,
at least in the Mount Sinai, when it says face
to face as a man speaks to another man. But
I believe there's several places in the Bible where it says.
S1 (23:59):
Okay, I got you, I got you. So what's your question?
S8 (24:03):
No one has seen the face of God and lived.
S1 (24:07):
Okay. That's it. And you want to know about how
can Moses speak to God face to face?
S8 (24:13):
Yes, sir.
S1 (24:14):
Okay, good. Uh, so in the book of numbers, when, uh. Uh,
Miriam and Aaron speak against Moses because they get jealous.
They're like, we're we're prophets, too, you know? You should
listen to us, too. God calls them out, and he
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and he says in numbers 12, verses six through eight. Uh,
if there is a prophet among you from the Lord,
I will make myself known to him in a vision.
I speak with him in a dream. Uh, not so
with my servant Moses. He is faithful in all my household.
I speak with him directly and literally. It says mouth
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to mouth. And that's what some versions translate with him.
I speak face to face openly and not in riddles.
He sees the form of the Lord. So what you
have here is Moses speaks to God directly. That's it's
a metaphor, uh, that that they have direct conversation, not
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dreams and visions. But it doesn't mean that Moses actually
sees God. That comes from another place. When Moses goes
up on the mountain and they see God. But I
believe what they only see there is they see in
a vision in numbers 2411. Uh, they saw him in
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a vision. That's the Hebrew word that's used. So that's
how Moses could see God. Uh, we'll talk more about
that another time. Thanks for your call. We're going to
be right back with the mailbag, so don't go away.
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Welcome back to Open Line. I'm so grateful to be
with you. I so appreciate Tricia being back with me.
She's got all the mailbag questions, the Febc mailbag questions, and, uh. Hey, Tricia. Yes, I'm.
I am just amazed. Uh, I have to say, to
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hear it did a great job the last couple of
weeks when you weren't in the studio. Uh. And did
she tell you what I told her to warn you about?
S9 (26:39):
I'm not sure if she did.
S1 (26:41):
I told her to worry that you should. She should
tell you the story of Wally Pipp.
S9 (26:45):
Oh. You know.
S1 (26:47):
Do you know the story of Wally Pipp?
S9 (26:49):
I do not. Wally.
S1 (26:50):
Wally Pipp was the first baseman of the Yankees, and
he got injured. And so this is in, uh, this
is about 100 years ago. And so a guy named
Lou Gehrig was replaced him.
S9 (27:02):
Yeah, I've heard of him. Yeah.
S1 (27:04):
Lou Gehrig, Hall of Famer. He set the record for
most continuous games without missing one, uh, 2130 games. That
was later broken by Cal Ripken. But he set the
record for a long time, 2130 consecutive games. And Wally
Pipp lost his job. And so I told her that
you should be a little concerned.
S9 (27:27):
That she should.
S1 (27:29):
Yeah, because you don't want to become the Wally Pipp
of producers.
S9 (27:32):
That's it. It's true, it's true. But we're working together
as a team, she and I. And so. Yeah. So
that neither of us has to be here every week
because we've both been here every week. Um, yeah. In
the background. Often she was in the background. And so, um, yeah.
So we're kind of sharing this and working together as
a team.
S1 (27:53):
Yeah. Which most people don't know about why we need
a team for something like this is because you are
also the producer of Chris Fabry Live, and you're here
during the week. You're I feel bad for you having
to be here on the weekends, but we're part of
a team and I really appreciate the whole big team.
And that teamwork is what makes open line work people. Yeah,
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people don't know how important, how much I rely on
the whole team. Omar. You. Tyra. Lisa. Everyone's there, and
I really appreciate it. And I appreciate to our kitchen
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And they really are part of the team every time
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S9 (29:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's a study we've been talking about for
a while off the air, and so I'm glad it's
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S1 (29:13):
Finally doing it. I appreciate Trish producing that. Uh, and
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what have we got?
S9 (30:01):
All right. Kevin in Minnesota listens to Ktis and says,
I had decided that quoting job's three friends to make
a correct biblical point is a bad idea and should
not be done even if they said something accurate because, um,
they were so wrong in the whole book, in the
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story with job and have problematic credibility, even if they
have a nice, concise quote. I'd rather use biblical people
who are more accurate and living rightly. Um, but there
are other places where the Bible quotes unbelievers when they
say untrue things. But I was also assuming we shouldn't
use those to support things that we have. However, in
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first Corinthians 319, Paul quotes Eliphaz from job 513 so
that seems to shoot my cherished theory down. Can you
please help me with this?
S1 (30:56):
Yeah, I think that shoots your theory down. That's what
I would say. Uh, it's, uh, think about this. Let's
let's just take it out of the hole. Job's friends. Context.
Matthew 16 Jesus says to Peter, who do men say
that I am? He says, you know these different options.
S9 (31:15):
Some say this, some say this.
S1 (31:16):
Yeah. And then he says. But who do you say
that I am? He says, you are the Messiah, the
son of the living God. Jesus says, flesh and blood
has not revealed this to you, but my father. It's
a big deal that that Peter gets that very next
thing the Lord Jesus says is that he's going to Jerusalem.
He's going to be crucified. Peter says, absolutely not. No, no, no.
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And what does the Lord Jesus response to him there?
S9 (31:41):
Get behind me, Satan! Isn't that right?
S10 (31:44):
That's it. That's right.
S1 (31:47):
Well, here's the question. Uh, what do we what do
we do with that? Do we never quote Peter because
he was so off on that.
S9 (31:56):
So off or that Jesus calls him Satan?
S10 (31:59):
Exactly.
S9 (32:01):
That's pretty.
S10 (32:01):
Far off.
S1 (32:02):
We just have to assess whether the thing the person
says is true. You're the Messiah. Uh, or uh, or
the or wrong. Never. Lord, you'll never be crucified, right?
S10 (32:16):
Right.
S1 (32:16):
And the same thing with Eliphaz. The same thing with.
With anyone in Scripture. We have to establish whether what
they're saying is overall true. We have the whole Bible
to evaluate it or not. True. And it's okay to
quote one of job's friends as long as what they're
saying is true. Okay. Not not mistaken. So.
S9 (32:39):
Okay.
S1 (32:40):
That does shoot the theory, doesn't it?
S9 (32:42):
It does, it does. But that's a good helpful um,
tool as we're tip as we're studying the Bible. Like
we shouldn't be quoting those that say there is no
God because that's not what we believe. And we have
an entire book that talks about. Yeah, you know, that
kind of supports the opposite of that, even though that
is in the Bible. But but quoting the truth, even
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if it is said by someone who is false, like,
like even Balaam and his donkey, like those are not
people that you would quote, generally speaking, however, you know,
there was.
S1 (33:16):
Why can we quote Balaam? Because he got it right.
And that's why we have the story of Balaam's donkey.
Because if God could speak through one donkey, he can
speak through another donkey, right?
S10 (33:24):
That's right. Okay.
S9 (33:26):
Thank you for that question, Kevin. Our next question is
from Franco in Florida. Um, who is confused about Exodus 30?
And actually, any time that something, um, talks about a
perpetual like this is a perpetual thing that God is
setting up or a forever thing was commanded by the
people to do this forever. Um, specifically like sacrifices. Should
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Israel still be offering sacrifices like God set up in
Exodus 30 day and night? Um, and then beyond that
kind of, he said, I thought that Jesus had fulfilled
the law. And yet Matthew five he says it will
not pass away before passing, before the passing of heaven
and earth. Can you explain?
S1 (34:10):
Well, first of all, the a lot of the commands
are oh, this is forever. The the words olam the
world forever in Hebrew means until its lifespan for its lifespan. Okay, so.
So when the lifespan of the event is over. No,
you don't have to do it anymore. Uh, so, for example,
in Exodus 21 six, it talks about the the slave
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that wants to become doesn't want to be liberated, but
wants to become his master's servant forever, and he gets
his ear pierced. Do you remember that story in Exodus 21?
And then it says he will be his servant forever? Well,
that doesn't mean for all eternity. It means for as
long as he lives. And that's how very often we
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have to understand these commands. Like how often should Israel, uh, uh,
offer these sacrifices or burn this incense for as long
as the sacrificial system exists, as long as it lives,
that's how long we do it. Uh, and yes, the
Law of Moses is forever. I open my Bible. We
talk about it all the time. It's right there. The
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Torah is in my Bible, and I still can live
by its principles and wisdom, as as we all should.
Because it's the word of God. Uh, but the what?
What the law. What has, uh, been rendered inoperative? Not
that it doesn't exist, but it's not our it's not
our operating system is what it is. Uh, so, uh,
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that's that's the key idea. It's not our operating system.
That's the Sinai covenant, the laws that were given. So. Okay,
but they still exist, and they're still there. Okay. And
the reason I say that is the Lord Jesus doesn't
say the law alone. He says the law and the prophets.
And in Matthew, in Matthew five, he's talking about the
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Bible as a whole.
S9 (36:04):
Okay. Um, so when it comes to Matthew 28, When
Jesus says, I am with you always.
S1 (36:13):
Different Greek word is it.
S9 (36:14):
I was going to ask what it is even to
the end of the age. Is that just just for
the time, or is that an actual.
S1 (36:20):
For the eons?
S9 (36:21):
Okay, so that is, that is longer than than these
do these.
S1 (36:27):
Sacrifices.
S9 (36:27):
Forever. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Good. That makes me feel good.
Makes me feel better sometimes. You know, you never ask
a question you don't know the answer to. But I
was like, oh, I don't know what the actual Greek
says in that. So thank you for that reassurance. So
that one actually is a forever eternal. Yeah. An eternal
promise from Jesus. Yeah. Okay. That's it. Wonderful. Okay. You
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want to do one more?
S1 (36:50):
No. We're going to take a break.
S9 (36:51):
Okay. All right. Sounds good.
S1 (36:52):
Had a good time with that. We'll we'll take more questions.
Send your question in to open line radio.org. All you
have to do is go to our website. Click on
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will uh you can post it there and Trish will
put it in the mailbag. Thanks for your help with this, Tricia. Always.
And thanks for. Thanks for not being Wally Pipp and
coming back. Appreciate it. We're going to be right back
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with more of your questions in just a moment, so
don't go away. This is open line with Michael Ray
Dolnick and Tricia McMillan. Welcome back to Open Line. You know,
I should have mentioned this earlier. Uh, someone called in
and wanted to know, is it okay for someone to
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still go to the Jewish people today? Because the gospel
was to the Jewish people first and therefore, uh, you know, now,
shouldn't we be reaching the Gentiles so that Jesus can return? Uh, well,
here's the thing. When the Bible says the gospel is
to the Jew first, it doesn't mean that the historically
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the gospel went to the Jewish people earlier, and that
now is to the Gentiles. It means to the Jewish
people especially. And and for the whole world. It says,
I am not ashamed of the gospel. It is present tense,
the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes,
to the Jewish people especially, and also to the Gentiles.
That's what that verse means. And yes, we should reach
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Jewish people. And there's a great little booklet called To
the Jew first by In the New Millennium, uh, by, uh,
Doctor Al Mohler. And it's being offered for free by
Chosen People Ministries. I hope you'll get a copy. It's
a wonderful little booklet, and it really shows how being
faithful to this message of reaching the Jewish people with
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the gospel will, uh, show our our commitment to the
Great Commission and how important it is. And if you'd
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Jew first. And now we're going to go to the
phones and talk with Linda listening in Lakeland, Florida on Wcqs.
Welcome to Open Line, Linda. Now is a good season
to be living in Florida, isn't it? It's not too hot.
S11 (39:20):
It's beautiful. It's absolutely gorgeous. It is. It's great times
all around. That's great. My question was I was reading
about when Moses was on the mountain and he was talking.
God was talking to him and he passed by him.
And then Moses came down the mountain. And when he
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got down there, they were all worshipping the golden calf. And, um,
he I don't know if he said something to Aaron
or not, but Aaron says, I don't know how it happened.
It just kind of all the pieces, it just formed itself.
S1 (39:57):
I tossed the gold in the fire and out came
this calf.
S11 (40:01):
And out there it is. And then God smote 3000 people. Why?
Why was Aaron, um. You know, not smote.
S1 (40:16):
Why was he not smote? Yeah. Yeah. I wonder about
that myself. Why was Aaron not smote? Uh, here's what
I think. I don't think, uh, not why? I don't
think Aaron really wanted to do this. Uh, I think
that what happened was, uh, that Aaron Aaron was just
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pressed by the people. Uh, and I also believe what
happened is that when Moses came down and got really
ticked off, as he should have been, he said, what
did these people do to you that you have led
them into such a great sin? Uh, that's, by the way,
that's in Exodus 32, verse 24, he says, when I
threw it in the fire, out came this calf. And
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Moses saw the people were out of control, for Aaron
had let them get out of control, resulting in weakness
before their enemies and the Levites. So then this is
what the Lord, the God of Israel, says. Every man
fastened his sword to his side. Go back and forth
through the camp from entrance to entrance, and each of
you kill his brother, his friend, and his neighbor. The
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Levites did as Moses commanded in about 3000 men fell
dead that day among the people afterward. Today you have
been dedicated to the Lord since each of you. Each
man went against his son and his brother. Therefore you
have brought a blessing on yourselves today. Okay, here's what
I think happened. Moses came down, yelled at his brother,
as he should have, and probably many, many more people
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had been involved in in Golden calf worship. But Aaron stopped,
as did the rest of Israel. But 3000 were like,
we're not going to listen to Moses. We're going to persist.
And those are the ones that perished, the ones that
would not stop worshiping the golden calf when Moses put
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a stop to it. That's why. And Aaron had put
a stop to it in his own life. He wasn't
even doing it. He was just stupidly, you know, those
are my people. I must lead them. Let me. Let
me do whatever they want. That is ridiculous. So, yeah,
but that's what he did. Yeah. And by the way,
what follows after that are all the Levitical laws. Uh,
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the Priestly Code follows because Aaron was a failure as
a priest. So they had to get more laws for
the priest. So.
S11 (42:45):
Um, can I ask you one more question.
S1 (42:48):
Related to this? Uh.
S11 (42:51):
Well, it's about Moses.
S7 (42:53):
Okay. Go ahead.
S11 (42:54):
When Moses, uh, it says that Moses can see the
Promised land. He couldn't go in it because of his sin.
But he saw the Promised Land. Did Aaron go into
the Promised Land?
S7 (43:08):
No.
S1 (43:09):
Both. Aaron died before Moses did. Before, even while they
were still in the wilderness wanderings. And in Leviticus, it
tells us, remember that it's the whole story that Moses struck,
not Leviticus. In, uh, in numbers. Moses struck the rock twice.
S12 (43:27):
Mhm. Yeah. Okay.
S11 (43:30):
Well thank you very much for taking my question. It
it really helped me with Aaron.
S9 (43:46):
We are having technical difficulties again with Michael. Um, and
so we, um, we will uh, checking the clock here.
We are going to try and reconnect with him. Um,
and our next caller is Marlena in Cleveland, Ohio. Marlena,
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go ahead with your question on Open Line.
S13 (44:12):
Okay. Uh, a Jewish friend of mine asked me this question.
Jesus remembered the Passover by participating in a Seder. If
Jesus did it, why don't Christians practice this today?
S9 (44:27):
Um, that is a great question. And I know Michael
thinks that, um, that people should I mean, it is
a good thing to do. It is not required. Um, um,
it is not a required thing by Christians to do
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to live under the Jewish feasts. However, it can shed
great light on, um, I think it gives a lot
of great. Um. It helps. It gives a fuller understanding
of what was happening at the Passover and remembering that, um,
what was happening, um, when, when they were doing. Okay,
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we've got Michael back. Michael. Not much time. But you
want to try and you want to try and help Marlena.
I told her that there's it is not required for
Christians to celebrate and do Seder services, but it does
give great, um, addition to help us understand them.
S1 (45:29):
Yeah, it's kind of fun. And I would say every
time you have the Lord's Supper, in a sense you're
having a little mini Seder, and that's something that we're
supposed to do. And then I think a full seder
is great, but there's no obligation to do it. It's
just a meaningful thing. And it's. I have to tell you, uh,
there are so many believers that agree with you that
it's meaningful, that if I wanted to spend every day
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for the month of April and part of March Speaking
someplace and leading a Seder. I would have a very full,
full time because many, many believers would like that. So.
S7 (46:04):
Absolutely.
S1 (46:05):
Yeah. And that's why it's good that people learn. Anyway,
thanks for your call, Marlena. Sorry about the glitch and thanks.
That's the program for this week. Thanks for listening, everyone,
and thanks to the Open Line team. Tricia. Omar. Lisa,
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Week.
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we're going to go to the phones and talk with uh,
Bob in Chicago, Illinois listening on Wmbi. Welcome to Open Line. Bob.
How can I help you?
S2 (03:20):
Yes. God's blessings. Uh, Michael, uh, listen, I'm working with
a young man who's, uh, who's approached me. Uh, he's
he's a student over at Moody. Okay. And, uh, you
and I studied under you. Okay. Messianic. Uh, okay. And
it was in messianic ministry. Still am.
S1 (03:40):
Huh?
S2 (03:40):
Uh, but but he but he's he's the issues. I'm
looking for clarification. Uh, because we hear so much, uh,
it's to the Jews first. And yet Jesus says he
will not return Until the Great Commission is fulfilled, and
I need clarification on that point.
S1 (04:02):
Well, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what your question
is that. Should we not go to Jewish people with
the gospel?
S2 (04:09):
No, no, it's not that. It's it's the reason the
Jews were the ones that were to initially carry the message. Yeah, okay.
That's to the Jews first. But to reach the Gentiles,
the Gentiles who have become believers in the, in the,
in the King of the Jews has to be fulfilled. Uh, ultimately,
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before Jesus returns.
S1 (04:37):
Well, listen, the gospel needs to be proclaimed throughout the
earth in Matthew 24. That's during the tribulation period. Not now.
The rapture can happen at any time. Uh, but it's
really important to know that God always treats the gospel
message in Romans 116 as to the Jewish people pre-eminently
not historically that it went to the Jews first, and
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now it's not to the Gentiles. But when it says
in the Great Commission to make disciples of the nations,
what nation is included in there? The Jewish people. Paul
means in Romans 116 that the gospel has primary relevance
to the Jewish people, but it's for all nations. And
I think even even in the book of acts, when
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you see it going from Jerusalem to Judea to Samaria,
and then finally to the Gentile world, you have acts 12,
which is the end of the gospel to the Jewish world.
And then it's going to in acts 13, you have
the missionary journeys pick up Richard Longnecker. I pulled this
up right from my computer. He's got a great quote, uh,
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about the purpose of acts 12. He says, before Luke
turns to his portrayal of the Christian message to the
Gentile world. He takes the opportunity of presenting two further
glimpse glimpses of God's working on behalf of the believers
in Jerusalem. Luke seems desirous of making the point that
though he is about to portray the advances of the
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gospel within the Gentile Gentile world, it should not be
assumed that God was finished with Jerusalem, or that his
activity in the Jewish world was finished. Divine activity on
behalf of the Gentiles does not mean divine inactivity on
behalf of the Jewish world, or unconcerned for Jews. This
is a heresy that has often afflicted, afflicted Gentile Christians
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and resulted in horrendous calamities. Do you hear what he
is saying? That just because the gospel is now going
to spread to the Gentile world, doesn't mean that God
isn't working in the Jewish world? And so if someone's
going to go, uh, uh, reach the Jewish people, that's
something that God is working in. He still it still
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has primary relevance for Jewish people. And by the way,
one of the things that happens whenever you go reach
Jewish people, everyone gets reached. What I found is if
people go to the Gentile world, they're not usually looking
to reach Jews. But when you go to reach Jews,
the result is there are so many Gentiles wherever you
go that you're still going to be reaching Gentiles. So
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does that does that answer your question? I hope, Bob.
S2 (07:13):
It wasn't a question. I'm in Jewish ministry. I understand that,
but he's confused. He's confused about whether or not he
needs to move to Israel to set up a church
in Israel, as opposed to possibly going out and preaching
the word elsewhere.
S3 (07:31):
Well, okay.
S1 (07:33):
You don't have to go to Israel to reach Jewish people.
The Jewish.
S3 (07:36):
People.
S2 (07:36):
Are.
S3 (07:37):
No, no, no, ah, ah. The.
S1 (07:39):
The, the Jewish people are the unreached people right in
our very midst. So hopefully he will if God's calling
him to Jewish ministry, wherever he goes, he'll go out
and reach Jewish people with the gospel. Appreciate your call. Bob, uh,
we're going to talk to James in Webster, Florida, listening
to Wcqs. Welcome to Open Line, James. How can I
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help you today?
S4 (08:01):
Yes, sir. I just wanted to ask, uh, it says to, uh,
leave behind all your worldly possessions to follow him. And
he tells the man to sell all of his stuff
and follow him. But then everywhere you see that, it
says to, uh, when you get to heaven, that you'll
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walk on streets of gold and live in mansions. And
I was just wondering why. Why is it to give
up everything down here? So when we get to heaven,
we can have it there.
S3 (08:36):
Well.
S1 (08:37):
Is this a genuine question, James? I, I just need
to know. Are you. Are you really thinking you have
to give up all your worldly possessions?
S4 (08:46):
No, sir, I'm not meaning about it like that, but
I mean, he he tells the man.
S1 (08:52):
I understand what you're. I understand the verses. I'm just asking. What?
What is your real question here? James? What are you
concerned about?
S3 (09:01):
Uh.
S4 (09:02):
What if if I make it to heaven? What if
when I get to heaven, I don't want to walk
on streets of gold. And, uh. I don't want to
live in a mansion. I want to live in a
little cabin and have fields of green grass. I mean.
S3 (09:16):
Okay, I don't. Well.
S1 (09:17):
Okay. Now, now, let me clarify what the scriptures actually say. Uh,
the the rich young ruler, he he was told to
sell all his possessions because his possessions meant more to
him than anything else. And and the Lord Jesus knew
what was in humanity. And that's why he told him that.
It's not like he tells that to everyone. Uh, and
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then further the streets of gold in heaven. That's metaphorical.
And and not, uh, not necessarily, uh, something to be
taken literally. And in John 14, when the Lord Jesus says, uh,
in my father's house there are many mansions. Uh, let's
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be honest that the literal translation, that's King James Version,
but the literal translation is in my father's house there
are many apartments or places to live. So it's not
talking about mansions, necessarily, James. It's just talking about this.
And what is most important is not how you're going
to live, whether the streets are paved with gold or
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whether we get a mansion or an apartment. What I
think is really the issue here is what what we
know from, uh, the, uh, Elliott, uh, Jim Elliott, who said, uh,
he is no fool who gives up what he cannot
keep to gain that which he cannot lose. We sometimes
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give up our everything about our lives so that we can,
because that's what what knowing him and following him may entail.
But we gain something by following Jesus that we cannot lose.
And that's an eternal relationship with God. And and that's
what it's not talking about streets of gold. That's a metaphor.
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It's not talking about many mansions. It's talking about having
an eternal walk and relationship with God that will never
fail us, that will never be taken away from us.
And that's what our goal should be, not worrying about
how we're going to live or where we're going to walk,
it's that we're going to be with the Lord forever. Uh,
and if you're listening and you're thinking, oh, the the
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faith is just pie in the sky, it's not. It's
Jesus promised us an abundant life now, an eternal life
with him forever. All our sins will be forgiven, will
be with him forever. I hope. If you're listening and
you would like to experience a forever relationship with God,
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all you have to do is trust that Jesus died
for you, taking the punishment for your sin and that
he was raised again, proving he's God and now he's
got the power to to live through you by His
Holy Spirit. Uh, I hope you'll put your trust in
the fact that Jesus died for your sins and rose
again and experienced that forever relationship with God. Uh, you
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don't have to wait. You can trust in him right now.
Just tell him by faith. Just tell him I believe
that you died. The Lord Jesus died for me and
rose again. And I'm accepting that in my life right now.
That's all you have to do. Just tell him, uh,
and and then you'll have that forever relationship with God.
We're going to take a break right here. Give you
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a chance to respond to that. Let me know. Give
me a call If you've put your trust in Jesus
for the very first time right now by listening and
hearing that and responding to that. Uh, this is open
line with Michael Ray. Dominic. We're going to be back
with more of your Bible questions in just a moment,
so don't go away. Uh, we'll be right back. Welcome
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back to Open Line. So glad to be with you. Hey,
I've been talking to a bunch of young people, uh,
speaking in different schools of late. One of the things
that I was struck by is what a great school,
Moody Bible Institute, is for young people as they finish
high school, people think, well, I need to get a job.
And so I have to major in something that will listen.
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The most important foundation you can get for life is
understanding how to grow your walk with God, how to
understand His Word, how to serve him no matter what
job you're in. And so I really want to encourage
you no matter where you're going. We're all called to
serve the king. And if you're interested in and no
matter what it is that you're going to do, you're
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going to be serving him. That's our first priority. Get
the foundation that you need to do that. The best
way to do that is by checking out Moody Bible Institute.
Now you think I'm too old to go to school,
but you have children, grandchildren really encourage them to check
out if they know the Lord and want to serve him. Uh,
check out, uh, no matter where they're going to get
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their job, no matter how they get their paycheck, Moody's
the best place to learn how to serve the Lord.
The Lord in anywhere they go. Check out Moody, Dot,
Edu and maybe even come visit the school. I really
want to encourage people to check that out. Uh, and
we're going to talk now to Doug in Akron, Ohio,
listening on Wtxf. Welcome to Open Line, Doug. How can
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I help you today?
S5 (14:45):
Well, my question is, I've heard in the past that
the Holy Spirit will convict you of sin. And I
wondered if there's any scriptural proof or evidence that it
says that that is one of the functions of the
Holy Spirit.
S1 (14:59):
Do you ever feel convicted of sin?
S5 (15:03):
Yes. Yeah. And I yeah. My question is, is that
my conscience or.
S3 (15:08):
Yeah.
S1 (15:09):
Well, I think it's both, actually. Uh, the Holy Spirit
is what our conscience will convict us of sin. But, uh,
generally it doesn't help us if we just feel guilty.
The benefit of the Holy Spirit's ministry is that he
convicts us of sin. So that we put our trust
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in Jesus. This is not talking about a believer. In
John 16 it says, uh, this is what the Lord
Jesus says, uh, in John 16 seven. Uh, it's for
your benefit that I go away. He's talking about the
ascension there. Because if I don't go away, the counselor
will not come to you. If I go, I will
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send him to you. So it's talking about the Holy Spirit.
He says when he comes, he will convict the world.
It's not talking about believers here. It's talking about the
world about sin, righteousness, and judgment, about sin, because they
don't believe in me. Now think about this. He'll convict
you of sin. Uh, maybe it's the great sin of
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not believing in him. Or maybe because you don't, you'll
feel convicted of sin by the Holy Spirit. Because. Not forgiven.
And then about, uh, righteousness. Because I'm going to the father.
He will convict people about the righteousness that is needed
to stand before God. And no one else has it
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but the Lord Jesus. He can go stand before the father.
And so it's sort of a sense of he'll convict
them of their lack of righteousness that Jesus alone has.
And then, uh, and then about judgment, because the ruler
of this world has been judged, if the the one
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who causes all the rebellion and sin in the world
has been judged through the death of Jesus, and ultimately
through being bound and cast into the abyss and ultimately
cast into the lake of fire, if that one will
face judgment. Anyone that that doesn't know the Lord has
that same destiny. And so there's a sense of I
will be judged for my sin. And so this is
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talking about the way the the Holy Spirit works in
people's lives to convict them of sin, righteousness, and judgment.
I often say to people, in order to get saved,
you have to first have to get lost. People have
to have a sense of, uh, of being separated from
God because of their sin. That's what the Holy Spirit
is doing. And then, uh, the result is that they
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will trust in Jesus, be forgiven, and by application, if
the Holy Spirit can do that with people who don't
know him, how much more will he do it with
those of us who do know him, in whom he
is dwelling within us already. So that's that's where I
think the scripture is for about the convicting work of
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the Holy Spirit.
S5 (18:04):
Okay. Thank you very much.
S3 (18:06):
Okay. Yeah.
S1 (18:07):
Thanks. Thanks for your call. Uh, and we're going to
talk to Stephanie in Cleveland, Tennessee. Uh, listening on Wmw.
Welcome to Open Line, Stephanie. How can I help you today?
S6 (18:19):
Hi, doctor Michael or doctor Nick. I'm sorry.
S3 (18:23):
You can call me Doctor Michael.
S1 (18:24):
You can call me Michael.
S3 (18:25):
You can call me. Uh.
S1 (18:27):
I don't care what you call me. That's fine.
S3 (18:29):
So.
S6 (18:29):
I'm sorry. Um.
S3 (18:31):
Hey, you know, I think I always like it when.
S1 (18:33):
Uh.
S3 (18:34):
There are kids.
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That they want to call me Mr. Nick. My friends, children, grandchildren,
they want. And I say, just call me Michael to
those kids. And and they they can't do it. They
call me Doctor Michael. I think.
S3 (18:48):
That's.
S6 (18:49):
Well.
S3 (18:49):
So.
S6 (18:50):
Yeah, I can understand that. Yeah. Um. Thank you. Thank
you for taking my call. I was asked a question
last night, and I, I know you've talked about this before,
and I'm sorry that I could not give a proper answer, but, um,
they asked me about salvation after the rapture, uh, during tribulation.
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And I know that, um, there's a remnant and there
was some something about that that you've talked about and
was hoping maybe you could help me answer this question
about the possibility of salvation after the rapture.
S3 (19:23):
Yeah.
S1 (19:24):
Well, at the rapture, everyone that knows this is my belief.
I believe in the pre-tribulation rapture. That means that, uh,
The the Lord will snatch the church up any genuine
believer to be with him, and that will happen sometime
before the tribulation. Then the tribulation begins when Israel signs
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a covenant with the false Messiah, the Antichrist. And that's, uh,
found in Daniel 924 through 27. Uh, that's the passage
about that. Uh, but can people so I think just
be clear, Stephanie, you're saying can people be saved in
the tribulation once the tribulation begins? Am I am I
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hearing you right?
S6 (20:10):
Yes. That is my question.
S3 (20:12):
Yeah.
S1 (20:13):
Okay. So, uh, it does appear to be so because
you keep seeing people getting saved in the book of
revelation after the tribulation has begun. So here I am
in revelation chapter seven, as I'm turning my pages here. Uh,
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and it says that there are 144,000, 12,000 from each tribe.
144,000 people of Israel. Uh, and they this is what
it says. Don't harm the earth or the sea or
the trees until we seal the slaves of our God
on their foreheads. Uh, and they are sealed to serve him.
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It doesn't say what they are sealed to do. What
how their service is going to be, but they, uh.
But it just says that they are sealed as servants
of God. And then the very next paragraph talks about
the vast multitude from every nation, tribe, people and language
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which no one could number, standing before the throne and
before the lamb, robed in white with palm branches in
their hands, crying out, salvation belongs to our God. These
are the people who get saved in the tribulation. So
it sounds to me like what we have in revelation
seven is 144,000 Jews who believe in Jesus. They get
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saved in the tribulation. They're sealed to serve God. I
think their service is proclaiming the gospel. Think of about
144,000 Jewish. Billy Graham's out there proclaiming the gospel during
the tribulation, and they win people from every tribe and
tongue and nation. And so that, yes, there's most people
don't realize this, but there's going to be a great
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revival in the tribulation period. Okay. There and there, they're
going to win a lot of people to the Lord.
And then those people who are from every tribe and
tongue and nation, they'll win people to the Lord. And
so I think there's going to be a great revival.
I think just as many people as ever, maybe the
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greatest revival in history will take place in the worst
time in history, in the tribulation period. Okay, Stephanie. Yeah.
S6 (22:26):
Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate.
S1 (22:29):
That. And by the way, then you'll see that there
will be martyrs in revelation six during the tribulation. How
can they be martyrs in the tribulation if if they
didn't get saved in the tribulation, since every believer will
be removed? So yeah, there will there will be martyrs
and there will be great revival. Okay, okay. Thanks for
your call.
S7 (22:48):
Appreciate it. Thank you.
S1 (22:50):
Uh, we're going to talk with Ronald in Elmwood Park, Illinois,
listening on Wmbi, our flagship station. Hello, Ronald. How can
I help you today? Welcome to the young man.
S8 (23:01):
How are you doing?
S1 (23:02):
Thank God. Doing okay? How can I help you?
S8 (23:06):
I am far from a biblical scholar, so please accept
some of my babbling. But anyhow.
S1 (23:11):
There's no babbling, no babbling allowed. Just go ahead with
your question.
S8 (23:15):
There's a. I'm sure there's there's a verse or several
in the Bible. Moses meets Jesus on Mount Sinai and
they and it says to I'm paraphrasing or whatever I'm
doing with it. That day, Jesus spoke to Moses face
to face. And I believe that there's another instance where
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Moses is going across the desert, where he goes back
to his tent, and that one evening and Jesus comes
down and he meets him face to face. And pretty sure,
at least in the Mount Sinai, when it says face
to face as a man speaks to another man. But
I believe there's several places in the Bible where it says.
S1 (23:59):
Okay, I got you, I got you. So what's your question?
S8 (24:03):
No one has seen the face of God and lived.
S1 (24:07):
Okay. That's it. And you want to know about how
can Moses speak to God face to face?
S8 (24:13):
Yes, sir.
S1 (24:14):
Okay, good. Uh, so in the book of numbers, when, uh. Uh,
Miriam and Aaron speak against Moses because they get jealous.
They're like, we're we're prophets, too, you know? You should
listen to us, too. God calls them out, and he
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and he says in numbers 12, verses six through eight. Uh,
if there is a prophet among you from the Lord,
I will make myself known to him in a vision.
I speak with him in a dream. Uh, not so
with my servant Moses. He is faithful in all my household.
I speak with him directly and literally. It says mouth
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to mouth. And that's what some versions translate with him.
I speak face to face openly and not in riddles.
He sees the form of the Lord. So what you
have here is Moses speaks to God directly. That's it's
a metaphor, uh, that that they have direct conversation, not
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dreams and visions. But it doesn't mean that Moses actually
sees God. That comes from another place. When Moses goes
up on the mountain and they see God. But I
believe what they only see there is they see in
a vision in numbers 2411. Uh, they saw him in
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a vision. That's the Hebrew word that's used. So that's
how Moses could see God. Uh, we'll talk more about
that another time. Thanks for your call. We're going to
be right back with the mailbag, so don't go away.
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Welcome back to Open Line. I'm so grateful to be
with you. I so appreciate Tricia being back with me.
She's got all the mailbag questions, the Febc mailbag questions, and, uh. Hey, Tricia. Yes, I'm.
I am just amazed. Uh, I have to say, to
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hear it did a great job the last couple of
weeks when you weren't in the studio. Uh. And did
she tell you what I told her to warn you about?
S9 (26:39):
I'm not sure if she did.
S1 (26:41):
I told her to worry that you should. She should
tell you the story of Wally Pipp.
S9 (26:45):
Oh. You know.
S1 (26:47):
Do you know the story of Wally Pipp?
S9 (26:49):
I do not. Wally.
S1 (26:50):
Wally Pipp was the first baseman of the Yankees, and
he got injured. And so this is in, uh, this
is about 100 years ago. And so a guy named
Lou Gehrig was replaced him.
S9 (27:02):
Yeah, I've heard of him. Yeah.
S1 (27:04):
Lou Gehrig, Hall of Famer. He set the record for
most continuous games without missing one, uh, 2130 games. That
was later broken by Cal Ripken. But he set the
record for a long time, 2130 consecutive games. And Wally
Pipp lost his job. And so I told her that
you should be a little concerned.
S9 (27:27):
That she should.
S1 (27:29):
Yeah, because you don't want to become the Wally Pipp
of producers.
S9 (27:32):
That's it. It's true, it's true. But we're working together
as a team, she and I. And so. Yeah. So
that neither of us has to be here every week
because we've both been here every week. Um, yeah. In
the background. Often she was in the background. And so, um, yeah.
So we're kind of sharing this and working together as
a team.
S1 (27:53):
Yeah. Which most people don't know about why we need
a team for something like this is because you are
also the producer of Chris Fabry Live, and you're here
during the week. You're I feel bad for you having
to be here on the weekends, but we're part of
a team and I really appreciate the whole big team.
And that teamwork is what makes open line work people. Yeah,
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people don't know how important, how much I rely on
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I really appreciate it. And I appreciate to our kitchen
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And they really are part of the team every time
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S9 (29:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's a study we've been talking about for
a while off the air, and so I'm glad it's
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S1 (29:13):
Finally doing it. I appreciate Trish producing that. Uh, and
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And I want you to check out their podcast Until
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what have we got?
S9 (30:01):
All right. Kevin in Minnesota listens to Ktis and says,
I had decided that quoting job's three friends to make
a correct biblical point is a bad idea and should
not be done even if they said something accurate because, um,
they were so wrong in the whole book, in the
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story with job and have problematic credibility, even if they
have a nice, concise quote. I'd rather use biblical people
who are more accurate and living rightly. Um, but there
are other places where the Bible quotes unbelievers when they
say untrue things. But I was also assuming we shouldn't
use those to support things that we have. However, in
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first Corinthians 319, Paul quotes Eliphaz from job 513 so
that seems to shoot my cherished theory down. Can you
please help me with this?
S1 (30:56):
Yeah, I think that shoots your theory down. That's what
I would say. Uh, it's, uh, think about this. Let's
let's just take it out of the hole. Job's friends. Context.
Matthew 16 Jesus says to Peter, who do men say
that I am? He says, you know these different options.
S9 (31:15):
Some say this, some say this.
S1 (31:16):
Yeah. And then he says. But who do you say
that I am? He says, you are the Messiah, the
son of the living God. Jesus says, flesh and blood
has not revealed this to you, but my father. It's
a big deal that that Peter gets that very next
thing the Lord Jesus says is that he's going to Jerusalem.
He's going to be crucified. Peter says, absolutely not. No, no, no.
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And what does the Lord Jesus response to him there?
S9 (31:41):
Get behind me, Satan! Isn't that right?
S10 (31:44):
That's it. That's right.
S1 (31:47):
Well, here's the question. Uh, what do we what do
we do with that? Do we never quote Peter because
he was so off on that.
S9 (31:56):
So off or that Jesus calls him Satan?
S10 (31:59):
Exactly.
S9 (32:01):
That's pretty.
S10 (32:01):
Far off.
S1 (32:02):
We just have to assess whether the thing the person
says is true. You're the Messiah. Uh, or uh, or
the or wrong. Never. Lord, you'll never be crucified, right?
S10 (32:16):
Right.
S1 (32:16):
And the same thing with Eliphaz. The same thing with.
With anyone in Scripture. We have to establish whether what
they're saying is overall true. We have the whole Bible
to evaluate it or not. True. And it's okay to
quote one of job's friends as long as what they're
saying is true. Okay. Not not mistaken. So.
S9 (32:39):
Okay.
S1 (32:40):
That does shoot the theory, doesn't it?
S9 (32:42):
It does, it does. But that's a good helpful um,
tool as we're tip as we're studying the Bible. Like
we shouldn't be quoting those that say there is no
God because that's not what we believe. And we have
an entire book that talks about. Yeah, you know, that
kind of supports the opposite of that, even though that
is in the Bible. But but quoting the truth, even
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if it is said by someone who is false, like,
like even Balaam and his donkey, like those are not
people that you would quote, generally speaking, however, you know,
there was.
S1 (33:16):
Why can we quote Balaam? Because he got it right.
And that's why we have the story of Balaam's donkey.
Because if God could speak through one donkey, he can
speak through another donkey, right?
S10 (33:24):
That's right. Okay.
S9 (33:26):
Thank you for that question, Kevin. Our next question is
from Franco in Florida. Um, who is confused about Exodus 30?
And actually, any time that something, um, talks about a
perpetual like this is a perpetual thing that God is
setting up or a forever thing was commanded by the
people to do this forever. Um, specifically like sacrifices. Should
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Israel still be offering sacrifices like God set up in
Exodus 30 day and night? Um, and then beyond that
kind of, he said, I thought that Jesus had fulfilled
the law. And yet Matthew five he says it will
not pass away before passing, before the passing of heaven
and earth. Can you explain?
S1 (34:10):
Well, first of all, the a lot of the commands
are oh, this is forever. The the words olam the
world forever in Hebrew means until its lifespan for its lifespan. Okay, so.
So when the lifespan of the event is over. No,
you don't have to do it anymore. Uh, so, for example,
in Exodus 21 six, it talks about the the slave
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that wants to become doesn't want to be liberated, but
wants to become his master's servant forever, and he gets
his ear pierced. Do you remember that story in Exodus 21?
And then it says he will be his servant forever? Well,
that doesn't mean for all eternity. It means for as
long as he lives. And that's how very often we
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have to understand these commands. Like how often should Israel, uh, uh,
offer these sacrifices or burn this incense for as long
as the sacrificial system exists, as long as it lives,
that's how long we do it. Uh, and yes, the
Law of Moses is forever. I open my Bible. We
talk about it all the time. It's right there. The
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Torah is in my Bible, and I still can live
by its principles and wisdom, as as we all should.
Because it's the word of God. Uh, but the what?
What the law. What has, uh, been rendered inoperative? Not
that it doesn't exist, but it's not our it's not
our operating system is what it is. Uh, so, uh,
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that's that's the key idea. It's not our operating system.
That's the Sinai covenant, the laws that were given. So. Okay,
but they still exist, and they're still there. Okay. And
the reason I say that is the Lord Jesus doesn't
say the law alone. He says the law and the prophets.
And in Matthew, in Matthew five, he's talking about the
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Bible as a whole.
S9 (36:04):
Okay. Um, so when it comes to Matthew 28, When
Jesus says, I am with you always.
S1 (36:13):
Different Greek word is it.
S9 (36:14):
I was going to ask what it is even to
the end of the age. Is that just just for
the time, or is that an actual.
S1 (36:20):
For the eons?
S9 (36:21):
Okay, so that is, that is longer than than these
do these.
S1 (36:27):
Sacrifices.
S9 (36:27):
Forever. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Good. That makes me feel good.
Makes me feel better sometimes. You know, you never ask
a question you don't know the answer to. But I
was like, oh, I don't know what the actual Greek
says in that. So thank you for that reassurance. So
that one actually is a forever eternal. Yeah. An eternal
promise from Jesus. Yeah. Okay. That's it. Wonderful. Okay. You
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want to do one more?
S1 (36:50):
No. We're going to take a break.
S9 (36:51):
Okay. All right. Sounds good.
S1 (36:52):
Had a good time with that. We'll we'll take more questions.
Send your question in to open line radio.org. All you
have to do is go to our website. Click on
the link that says ask Michael a question and Trish
will uh you can post it there and Trish will
put it in the mailbag. Thanks for your help with this, Tricia. Always.
And thanks for. Thanks for not being Wally Pipp and
coming back. Appreciate it. We're going to be right back
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with more of your questions in just a moment, so
don't go away. This is open line with Michael Ray
Dolnick and Tricia McMillan. Welcome back to Open Line. You know,
I should have mentioned this earlier. Uh, someone called in
and wanted to know, is it okay for someone to
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still go to the Jewish people today? Because the gospel
was to the Jewish people first and therefore, uh, you know, now,
shouldn't we be reaching the Gentiles so that Jesus can return? Uh, well,
here's the thing. When the Bible says the gospel is
to the Jew first, it doesn't mean that the historically
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the gospel went to the Jewish people earlier, and that
now is to the Gentiles. It means to the Jewish
people especially. And and for the whole world. It says,
I am not ashamed of the gospel. It is present tense,
the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes,
to the Jewish people especially, and also to the Gentiles.
That's what that verse means. And yes, we should reach
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Jewish people. And there's a great little booklet called To
the Jew first by In the New Millennium, uh, by, uh,
Doctor Al Mohler. And it's being offered for free by
Chosen People Ministries. I hope you'll get a copy. It's
a wonderful little booklet, and it really shows how being
faithful to this message of reaching the Jewish people with
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the gospel will, uh, show our our commitment to the
Great Commission and how important it is. And if you'd
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Scroll down till you come to the link that says
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Jew first. And now we're going to go to the
phones and talk with Linda listening in Lakeland, Florida on Wcqs.
Welcome to Open Line, Linda. Now is a good season
to be living in Florida, isn't it? It's not too hot.
S11 (39:20):
It's beautiful. It's absolutely gorgeous. It is. It's great times
all around. That's great. My question was I was reading
about when Moses was on the mountain and he was talking.
God was talking to him and he passed by him.
And then Moses came down the mountain. And when he
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got down there, they were all worshipping the golden calf. And, um,
he I don't know if he said something to Aaron
or not, but Aaron says, I don't know how it happened.
It just kind of all the pieces, it just formed itself.
S1 (39:57):
I tossed the gold in the fire and out came
this calf.
S11 (40:01):
And out there it is. And then God smote 3000 people. Why?
Why was Aaron, um. You know, not smote.
S1 (40:16):
Why was he not smote? Yeah. Yeah. I wonder about
that myself. Why was Aaron not smote? Uh, here's what
I think. I don't think, uh, not why? I don't
think Aaron really wanted to do this. Uh, I think
that what happened was, uh, that Aaron Aaron was just
(40:43):
pressed by the people. Uh, and I also believe what
happened is that when Moses came down and got really
ticked off, as he should have been, he said, what
did these people do to you that you have led
them into such a great sin? Uh, that's, by the way,
that's in Exodus 32, verse 24, he says, when I
threw it in the fire, out came this calf. And
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Moses saw the people were out of control, for Aaron
had let them get out of control, resulting in weakness
before their enemies and the Levites. So then this is
what the Lord, the God of Israel, says. Every man
fastened his sword to his side. Go back and forth
through the camp from entrance to entrance, and each of
you kill his brother, his friend, and his neighbor. The
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Levites did as Moses commanded in about 3000 men fell
dead that day among the people afterward. Today you have
been dedicated to the Lord since each of you. Each
man went against his son and his brother. Therefore you
have brought a blessing on yourselves today. Okay, here's what
I think happened. Moses came down, yelled at his brother,
as he should have, and probably many, many more people
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had been involved in in Golden calf worship. But Aaron stopped,
as did the rest of Israel. But 3000 were like,
we're not going to listen to Moses. We're going to persist.
And those are the ones that perished, the ones that
would not stop worshiping the golden calf when Moses put
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a stop to it. That's why. And Aaron had put
a stop to it in his own life. He wasn't
even doing it. He was just stupidly, you know, those
are my people. I must lead them. Let me. Let
me do whatever they want. That is ridiculous. So, yeah,
but that's what he did. Yeah. And by the way,
what follows after that are all the Levitical laws. Uh,
(42:37):
the Priestly Code follows because Aaron was a failure as
a priest. So they had to get more laws for
the priest. So.
S11 (42:45):
Um, can I ask you one more question.
S1 (42:48):
Related to this? Uh.
S11 (42:51):
Well, it's about Moses.
S7 (42:53):
Okay. Go ahead.
S11 (42:54):
When Moses, uh, it says that Moses can see the
Promised land. He couldn't go in it because of his sin.
But he saw the Promised Land. Did Aaron go into
the Promised Land?
S7 (43:08):
No.
S1 (43:09):
Both. Aaron died before Moses did. Before, even while they
were still in the wilderness wanderings. And in Leviticus, it
tells us, remember that it's the whole story that Moses struck,
not Leviticus. In, uh, in numbers. Moses struck the rock twice.
S12 (43:27):
Mhm. Yeah. Okay.
S11 (43:30):
Well thank you very much for taking my question. It
it really helped me with Aaron.
S9 (43:46):
We are having technical difficulties again with Michael. Um, and
so we, um, we will uh, checking the clock here.
We are going to try and reconnect with him. Um,
and our next caller is Marlena in Cleveland, Ohio. Marlena,
(44:09):
go ahead with your question on Open Line.
S13 (44:12):
Okay. Uh, a Jewish friend of mine asked me this question.
Jesus remembered the Passover by participating in a Seder. If
Jesus did it, why don't Christians practice this today?
S9 (44:27):
Um, that is a great question. And I know Michael
thinks that, um, that people should I mean, it is
a good thing to do. It is not required. Um, um,
it is not a required thing by Christians to do
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to live under the Jewish feasts. However, it can shed
great light on, um, I think it gives a lot
of great. Um. It helps. It gives a fuller understanding
of what was happening at the Passover and remembering that, um,
what was happening, um, when, when they were doing. Okay,
(45:12):
we've got Michael back. Michael. Not much time. But you
want to try and you want to try and help Marlena.
I told her that there's it is not required for
Christians to celebrate and do Seder services, but it does
give great, um, addition to help us understand them.
S1 (45:29):
Yeah, it's kind of fun. And I would say every
time you have the Lord's Supper, in a sense you're
having a little mini Seder, and that's something that we're
supposed to do. And then I think a full seder
is great, but there's no obligation to do it. It's
just a meaningful thing. And it's. I have to tell you, uh,
there are so many believers that agree with you that
it's meaningful, that if I wanted to spend every day
(45:52):
for the month of April and part of March Speaking
someplace and leading a Seder. I would have a very full,
full time because many, many believers would like that. So.
S7 (46:04):
Absolutely.
S1 (46:05):
Yeah. And that's why it's good that people learn. Anyway,
thanks for your call, Marlena. Sorry about the glitch and thanks.
That's the program for this week. Thanks for listening, everyone,
and thanks to the Open Line team. Tricia. Omar. Lisa,
thanks for all that you do. Keep in touch with
Open Line during the week by going to our web page,
Open Line radio.org. It's got all the links you're looking for.
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Link to our current resource, how to become a Kitchen
Table Partner, and also a link to my personal web
page if you're interested in traveling with me and studying.
Keep reading the Bible. We're going to talk about it
next week. Open line with Doctor Michael Ray Dolnick is
a production of Moody Radio, a ministry of Moody Bible Institute.
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See you next.
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