June 9, 2025 • 49 mins
On this show: Dave Steinwedel and Payton Girod are back to discuss Aaron Rodgers offically a Steeler, Nick Chubb going to the Texans, and Jaire Alexander no longer a Packer. (3:00-18:05)
Why the Stanely Cup Playoffs have been hard to read and OKC should win the Finals. (18:06-25:00)
College Football and a salary cap plus there are too much streaming in sports. (25:01-END)
Why the Stanely Cup Playoffs have been hard to read and OKC should win the Finals. (18:06-25:00)
College Football and a salary cap plus there are too much streaming in sports. (25:01-END)
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Opening Kickoff Podcast. We got a good one for you.
A lot of NFL news and nuggets that we're gonna
dive into. NBA Finals going on. That series is tied
one one. Stanley Cup Final Game three is while we
are taping tonight, that one is one to one. We'll
talk about that was a little bit. We'll get into
a little bit of golf. As the calendar hits that
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June time of the year, good time as always to
discuss some of the smaller sports that maybe we don't
get to touch on during the busy parts of our
sports calendar, viewing and golf taking center stage next to
baseball and motorsports for the next couple months until football.
So we're gonna talk a little bit about that and
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all whole heck of a lot more. I'm your host,
Dave stamweel we're down a couple of guys. David Malls
is on dad duty this week, so he is not
with us, and we don't know where Brandon is. I
think is the fair way to describe this, Peyton girod It's.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
An accurate way.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I think that's the only way I know how to
and respect my guy. But he's a busy guy. You know,
he's he's got a big, big boy job and he's gotta,
you know, do some stuff, which means sometimes he can't
respond to us, which I hope is why he's not
responding to us. And now that he's just fucking ignoring us.
But you know, that's just the way it goes sometimes.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, and you know what if he's if we've come
to find out he ignored us, we'll address that. We
have a zero no, we have a zero no ignoring
policy on the show. I have a on my arm.
I don't know where it came from.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
No, Mark down there. You're out of school, aren't you.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I am so a very good chance I cut it
on something I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But here there we go.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
That's right. So let's lets it is just us. And uh,
sometimes those are good pods. Sometimes they're not great pods.
We're gonna find out. We will find that. You may later,
We're gonna tease that out a little bit. But for
right now, the saga is over. Aaron Rodgers has finally
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signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Peyton, giving you your flowers.
You absolutely called this that he was gonna play this
game out until he didn't have so he didn't have
to come.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
He had to literally show up to work last day.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
That literally, at the moment that word mandatory showed up.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
He's all right, how long.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Could I go? What's the latest I could do this?
And he's like, They're like probably this day, and he's like,
all right, sweet. He probably also took pleasure in it,
being right in the middle of Elon Musk and Donald
Trump just on an all out Twitter ward. He's like, yo,
I know we said Friday, just drop it now, just
put it out right now. That's literally probably what he said.
He's like, let him know, I want to be right
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in the middle of all this. I want to be
right in the middle of the madness.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
News dumpull a Friday. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, So he was like, I gotta be I gotta
get involved. I gotta get involved in the mix. You know. Well,
it was, uh.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Look, here's all I can say about it. Obviously, I
think every Steelers Channe'll speak to them. This is not
obviously what we wanted. If you had to pick, I
think we all kind of ru on the side of
Justin Fields.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It came out. I don't know if you saw.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
That was shocking to me was he was their third option,
which that was not the shocking part.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
The shocking part was that they tried to trade.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
For Matthew Stafford was very shocking because it doesn't seem
like Matthew Stafford has a lot of years left in
his game or that he wants to.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Play for a lot I guess I could say.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But the fact that that was a higher option than
feel as well, as reported by Adam Schefter, is very
very I want to say, concerning for the Steelers management.
But like it is kind of bothers some that they
thought they would go with that guy and then Justin
Fields and then Rogers, like you know what I mean, Like,
wouldn't you put the younger guy in the front of them?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Maybe they see this big window that I don't see
to win now. But yeah, I'm I'm at this point.
I'm cool with the Rogers thing because we had nothing else.
I mean, there's no other way to put it. We
have no we had no other plan. I mean, Mason
Rudolph and Will Howard I thought would be fun to
like try to see how they navigate that it'd be
the hardest test of Mike Tollman's career. But I don't know,
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And I will say this, like you we could complain
about it. I can't complain about the money he took.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's a joke.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean he's making less than like probably a lot
of guys that I can think of. I mean he's
making like backup less almost less than backup my line,
I would say probably.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And it's I'm cool with that. That sounds sweet, but
it's it's saying that.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It's interesting you say the Steeler window because this feels
like the Steelers have gone all in for this year
and the reality is they don't have a defense that's
young and up and coming. The offense like they've done
a lot of investing offensively the last couple of years,
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and it feels like the defense is now getting old,
getting age, getting beat up to a point where you
kind of feel like the Steelers are about ready to
have to make an overhaul on the defense, and that's
going to close their window for a little bit. Still
thinking Pittsburgh's looking at twenty twenty six and saying that's
the quarterback class, yeah, that we want to be in
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because as we said before, and I don't want to
reiterate points, but Aaron Rodgers doesn't move the needle as
much as everybody acts like Aaron Rodgers is going to
move the needle. You're playing in a brutal division with
really good teams. You're playing in a brutal conference with
really good teams, and Aaron Rodgers doesn't make the Steelers
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a super Bowl contender. It makes them a playoff contender,
but it doesn't cover up the deficiencies the Steelers have.
So not to belabor a point, because we spent more
time on Aaron Rodgers, and I think we all want to.
I wanted to move on to some of the other
NFL news with Jay R Alexander getting released by the Packers,
their top corner, which after it's sounding like an offseason
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of trying to trade him to no avail, the Packers
have moved on. What do you make of that decision?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Shocking that no one would want to play with that guy?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Like I get like he is good, and but I
think it's starting to get to that point of he
still thinks he's here. It's you could all I mean, honestly,
I've been saying this. You can say about Jalen Ramsey too.
They think they're still right here, and they're real down
here now they're not as good and they there are
younger guys that are much better that will be coming
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around in free agency, or even guys that are slightly
maybe they're aged or older, that I could pay less
and still get about the same product.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Now, I'm not saying, like.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Jay Alexander is in like you know, a good corner
or anything like that, but like we'd be lying if
we said that we're gonna you're gonna get the same
production that you would be getting for whatever number he wanted.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I mean, he probably wanted top dollar. I would imagine
right like.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, if he were to get traded, he would want
to sign with that seame for a good deal, and
clearly no one wanted to pay that. And listen, also,
you have to like factor in the amount of money
that like he's gonna go out there and talk shit
and you have to deal with it, and you're like.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Are we probably like are we good enough for him
to talk to it?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Like he's got up and not to mention the injuries.
I mean, he's been injured a lot the last couple
of years. Exactly as good of a corner, yeah, as
good of a corner as he is now, is he
worth a two A playoff team on a one year deal,
because that's pretty much what he's looking for. I say, yeah,
I don't think you're gonna get a playoff team to
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want to sign you long term. You're gonna be signed
for a one year. We're we're going all in here,
the missing piece in the secondary sort of move. And
then I think you're gonna have to bite the bolt
and play for a bad team next year when you
want the top dollar, because that's who's gonna give you
the top dollar if you're Dye Alexander at this stage
because of everything you just said, because of the injury concerns,
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because of the on the field antics, and clearly driving
a wedge to a point where you didn't want to
come back to green Bay, and green Bay decided we're
better off cutting you than getting something for you. Is
a little telling to me. Last NFL nugget before we
talk about the Stanley Cup and the NBA Final here
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Nick Chubb. A weird offseason for him coming back off
his second knee injury, but he has a home and
it's with the Houston Texans.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah. I like that move.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I love it. I just think that's a great move.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
We we should actually talk about the more thing. Actually,
I'll ask of the just straight up like this, How
concerned are you with the Texans season, with what's going
on with CJ's shroud that he's just not throwing the football.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Well, you've got it. I'm not overly concerned right now
because we're in June. Like if this is in the
August and we're getting closer to the season and he's
not like he hasn't done his starting program. Now, okay,
we can raise some concerns, but I mean, how bad
that offensive line was the last two years. I'm not
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shocked at already he's his body's worn down a little bit. Yeah,
but that's why I love the Nick Chubb move personally,
because now you sort of say, hey, we're gonna give
you a run game that we're gonna stick with. It
isn't just oh god, Joe Mixon comes off the field.
We can't really run the ball. Whatever you're gonna get
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out of Nick Chubb. And Nick Chubb at this stage
in his career with the two knee injuries, until he
can show he's back one hundred percent, this is what
you're gonna see from Nick Chubb. He's gonna be a
number two back that hey, if it works, he's gonna
get himself another starting job somewhere. He's that good of
a running back, but yeah, you protect him with the
wear and tear, And the reality is that's like with
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some of those veteran backs you need that you need
to have two different running backs, and these are two
really good complimentary backs. I think with what Houston is
doing to help alleviate C. J. Stroud and to wear
and tear that he has taken on his body from
all the injury all the.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Do you think, like, I mean, it's obviously always kind
of been there.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I can't say like it it's it's becoming a thing.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
But do you think it's going to be start to
become more regular that every team has a one to
two like legos like for reference, I think honestly the
Jamiir Gibbs Daved Montgomery thing will become more of the
social Norman at the NFL just because you see, you
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like running back, you like the running next you have
you obviously draft him or bring him in for whatever reason,
and then you start to get this like kind of
flow of like it's it's weird where you normally would say, oh,
that guy needs to stay in and get more carries
to get a flow of the game. But these guys
have kind of like understood a flow of being subbed
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in and subbed out, but still have the hot end
whenever they get in. I just feel like that's what
the Texans want to try to do with Joe Mixon, Like,
even though they are both older, like you said, they
want to have more of.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
That rotation where they can you know, it keeps.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
It honestly keeps defenders on their heels because, like you know,
each of them are kind of different running backs.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I mean, that's just such a big point though.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, I think that's it.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
That's such a big point you bring up. Is if
you're gonna do the two headed monster at running back,
which at this stage with the wear and tear that
running backs are coming into the league with, that's what
you've got to do. You have to have the backs
be different so that when they come into the game.
That's what makes what Detroit does so effective. David Montgomery
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is a downhill, one cut at you running back. Jamir
Gibbs is sort of You're all around. He can catch
a ball out of the backfield, he can make you
miss in the open field, he can run you over.
He's the all important. If you're gonna do two running backs,
you've gotta have like, to be honest, that's what I
think Pittsburgh's problem was. You had this aim running back
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when you Tooknology Harris out, there was no difference when
Jalen Warren came into the game.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I would say they use him how they should have.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well, I agree, I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
The year prior, they definitely were doing it the right way.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
And then last year, I don't know what the fuck
anybody like Jalen Warren did to piss people off or
I mean, I guess that's the toll of a different coordinator.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I guess you could say with Arthur Smith.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
But I hope this year goes back to him, you know,
thinking ducking around screens and stuff. But I get your sentiment, like,
if you're gonna do this, that's how you have to
do it.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I think like, and I think that's where Nick Chubb
and Joe Mixon at this stage in their career. That's
why this is probably gonna work because Nick Chubb is
gonna have to be a one cutback until until he
proves that the acls his knees are intact. Joe Mixon
can still still be able to make you miss, still
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be able to make all the cuts, get outside, be
dynamical on the edge and inside where Nick Chubb's gonna
be more in between the tackles. Guy, I think it's
gonna work well, But you're right. I think that's where
we're headed in the NFL is you're gonna have to
have two backs. If you don't have two backs, you
don't have a running game, essentially, because when when you
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have to take the first guy out, it is such
a considerable drop off. Look at the Ravens. The Ravens
have three backs that are all completely different from each
other correct so at any time and really you can
throw Lamar Jackson as a runner in there, and there's
four different types of guys running the football at you
that all present a different challenge as when they get
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the ball in their hand, and that is hard for defenses.
If you just have one guy, I don't think you're
gonna be success as successful because he has when he
wears out or teams are able to adjust to him,
You've got to have that counter in your run game.
He's still got to be able to run the ball.
At the end of today, the NFL loves to be
a passing league, and it's fun, it's exciting to watch.
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But look at the teams that make it to the
Super Bowl. What do they all have? They have a
great run game. Yeah, Philadelphia doesn't make it without sae
Quon Barkley.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I mean I would say it's like, I think it's funny.
It's like we get in this argument like it's a
passing league now, but we always get back to that
part at some point in the season or whether we
realize it in the playoffs or we realize it later
and at the end of the regular season, whenever you
start to realize that these guys that are hanging all
have like that guy right like they have whatever whoever
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it may be, they they're able to.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Run the ball. I mean really, and I think, honestly,
I think the best the biggest part.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And I'm not breaking any I'm not coming up with
a new idea here, but I think like Jalen Hurts
probably benefited more because he was able to take off,
like take less pressure on himself, you know, like it
wasn't relying on on him. And now I'm not saying
he you know, the first time around. I don't think
he ever really felt the pressure like that anyways, But
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even just not having to worry about that, or like
knowing you're gonna get forty yards here because you know
how it's gonna play out, at least at minimum, You're like,
oh great, all right, You're already thinking what's next, you
know what I mean, You're thinking about what do we
want to do on the next play if it's four
yards or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So yeah, I mean it's it's very important.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I think I'm curious to see how guys like Sai
Kuon and guys like Derrick Henry do this year after
a year of such success, and you know, with a
new team, how does that look in the division? Do
people start to figure I mean eventually the NFL, they
always figure something out. You know, one team may or multiple.
But we'll see what happens with all of that.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
We're gonna shift gears here a little bit and talk
about the stand like Cup final, because it's been a
hell of the two games. Going back to Florida for
Game three? What did your take on the series two games?
In Peyton?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Uh, Connor McDavid is trying his damnas. I mean, the
guy I don't know if he saw this just the
other night with the toe drag just filth.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I mean, there's not many guys that can do that
that coordinated. But there's always a fucking rat. There's always
a rat in the building, and Brad marsh In is
always a fucking rat man. So I couldn't believe, like
why I was at a wedding, but I saw like
on the bar like him. You know, I caught how
it ended. I mean how he got the breakaway and
how he did. I mean, he like it was like
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he had the click remote. He fast he rewind back
into like.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The two thousands.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
He was like, oh, I got this ship Unlocke's Gordon.
I mean, it's it's a battle. I would say that
it's gotta go six or seven. It's just a fucking
It's an absolute test. And these guys played each other
last year. I think they're so nerve trying to stop
all these things that happened in the previous matchup that
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like that's allowing for more mistakes or I guess higher scoring.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I guess there's been a huge amount of breakaways into
two games, which is una this time of year.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You feel would be like tighter, right, But you know
it's not. It's weird.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
What's amazed me through the two games is what I
thought the difference, as we talked about in the goaltending,
would be so much more magnified, and it hasn't been.
He has not. Now Stuart Skinner has been serviceable but
not outstanding by any means. But Sergei Bribrovski, who usually
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stands on his head this time of year, has been
a human for a lack of better terms, something again
we don't see a lot of this time of year
from him. But I think to your point, Florida's been
here the last three years, Edmonton going back this year.
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If you go back and look at last year, Edmonton
didn't play this confident early in the series. Last year,
it took them a little bit. It took McDavid, It
took dry Sidle and those guys a couple of games
to sort of get themselves. Those jitters. You don't have
that this year. Both are playing. The Edmonton's forwards and
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their frontline guys are playing with an immense amount of confidence,
and you're seeing it kind of translated through the team.
And I think Florida, I don't want to say underestimated.
But I think Florida thought they could come in and
kind of exact their will on Edmonton like they did
last year, and eventually Edmonton and wilt and that has
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through two games now. Again, a lot of that could
be you're at home, you're in Edmonton, you have the
home iice advantage, and you get a little extra bump.
I'm interested to see what happens here tonight in Florida.
But I think edd Florida had to do a little
bit in game two of like, all right, we need
to readjust because we're not gonna be able to push
this team around like we did last year. It's not
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gonna work. They're not as phased by that this year.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, I mean, I agree, I just honest I don't
even have an inkling of which way II leen anymore.
I think Florida is gonna win it just I think
they're just so there's so much better like depth wise
in my opinion, but maybe not. If you honestly, I'd
go like this, whoever wins to Night's wins.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Series absolutely, and I think there's no there's no other
way because you get up to one in this type
of series and it's particularly if it's close. If you're Edmonton,
you're just sick to your stomach because of had a
chance to put it away. Get that way, get too Oh,
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go to Florida and have their backs against the wall
and then miss that, like miss that opportunity at home,
you go down to one here, Florida is gonna run
you out of the building in the next two games.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, I mean, that's just exactly what I think will happen.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
So, I mean, I think it's I don't want to
say must win, but I think it's important for either team,
like someone someone has to like set the tone for
the rest of this series.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And I mean, is it gonna be just.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
On cocaine and crack the whole rest of the way
of five four six five?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Or is it gonna be are they gonna tighten up tonight?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I'm leaning towards cracking cocaine because they're in Florida. But
that's just me, you know, I just that's what I'm
thinking about those guys. That's the way they want to play.
They like the chaos of it, and I think Edmonton,
I don't think they know how to navigate it when
it gets you know, it becomes like a shootout like that.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You know, I think they'd rather keep it more close
and conservative, But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I am rooting by the way four had to happen.
Give me the chaos because the games been exciting, been
an awesome two games. That's why I felt bad for
the NBA because you had such a great game one
of the finals, then turn around and and and throw
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a dud back up there is a is a tough
one to swallow. The first one was gonna be a
dud though it was outside of Tyrese Haliverton and Indiana
putting one together. But but like we've talked about that,
with that one, we all know Oklahoma City is the
better team. That's why it was.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
It would be Is it crazy to say if they
were to lose this it would be a bigger choke
than when the Warriors like blew it.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Oh no, No, I think that's a that's a fair take.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Like not saying the three one I think three one
was really bad. I'm saying more like going into that
series like they were even though it was Lebron James, Like,
I mean, that was supposed to be the best basketball
team of all time.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
So yeah, well, and roster wise, Oklahoma City is the
best roster in the NBA today up and down. Their
depth is great. Like they should win this series against
Indiana purely because they are the more complete team. They
don't win it, this will be one of the worst
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and it will make it worse is if Oklahoma City
doesn't ever make it back. Not saying that that will happen,
but if they never make it back, that'll be a
really bad look for Oklahoma City if they don't win this.
But well, Indiana, you can't roll them out. Going in.
Going back for Game three will be fun. But Oklahoma
City should win this because they are the more complete
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team up and down that roster. All Right, we're gonna
catch our breath and we'll be back in a moment.
All right, apologies for that. We had to take a
little bit of a breather here because you know, it's
just two of us talking sports, so we gotta hydrate
the vocal cords a little bit. But college football is
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in such an interesting spot now when now a salary
cap being put in so Peyton, Geront. The question I
have to you is this, does the salary cap save
some of these smaller schools in your eyes like it
like in my eyes, it does that are in these
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big conferences.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Honestly, I kind of we're shit chatting on off camera,
but this idea, it's kind of popped in my head.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It kind of goes into the theory of.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
For at least the beginning of it, and it kind
of reminds you of like how Formula one is a
little structured, right, Like there used to not be a
salary cap and it was always the top four teams
and then they put you know, but they put in
a budget or whatever, and if you go over the
budgets be penalized. That is also something that we don't
have clarity on what happens if Ohio State spends you know,
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just a measly hundred grand over, you know, and they
can't they you know, they're like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You know, we thought you'd let that slide. No idea.
What happens.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Then maybe NCAA gets power again, they have to intervene
or something. But for a while, like sure they're the
salary cap now, right, but Bowling Green won't be able
to reach that number, you know what I mean, They're
not going to reach the tippy tippy top to the
end of it, they're not gonna be able to They're
only gonna they'll probably I'm not saying they're gonna put
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no money into it, but the amount of money they're
gonna be putting in for their whole budget and department
isn't gonna come near to fucking Alabama's football and basketball
just those two, right. So I think it'll take time,
uh for everybody to try to figure out how they
can navigate and get close to that pop, you know,
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reaching the full allocation of that budget.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But I think for at least a couple of years
it'll it'll still.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Be you know, top dog is gonna roll until you
figure out a way around it. I did see the
interesting article. I don't know if you saw this today,
Penn State and UCLA private equity funding. I don't know
if you heard this getting funding for their football team
through private equity. Both athletic credit directors deny involvement with
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private equity amid the house settlement. But that's one way
I started thinking about, like you get you know, brand Stevens.
We do have an update. He just out out of
the office seven pm. Brick by brick, not stick by
stick guy. Look at that guy putting in the hours,
my tax dollars are working for me today. Yeah, I think, honestly,
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this is how these bigger schools will get there. Their
schools can make up a gap, they'll have to go
private equity with it. They'll have to get some more.
They're going to have to get more money than just
their alumni or the local businesses or the local truck
guy that's willing to give you know, fifteen thousand dollars
a year to the program or what ever it is. Right,
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they're gonna have to go outside to a furn that's
gonna give them capital.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
But I mean, who knows what that does to your school? Right?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Like what if you don't pay back those if it's
like a loan type, what do you don't pay that back?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
So I think it's just a wild while west. Still,
it's just they.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Have more Alley have mo money out there that they
can pay out. They're like, fuck, yeah, I can give
Jeremiah with three million dollars now for sure.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Well, and let's call spade a spade. This salary cap
is not for the Bowling Greens. No, this is for
your Rutgers, your Vandy's, your your your big programs that
are trying to compete in the Big Ten, the ACC,
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the Big twelve, yeah, and that, but aren't in that
class that we talked about before with some of the
big dogs in terms of their money and their investors
and the alumni base that they can pull from. So
what you're gonna what you're seeing is this is saying, hey,
we're gonna keep the conferences competitive so that we can
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get more teams in. If we have six schools in
a Big ten that can compete for a national title
and not just three. Yeah, or hey, if we're the ACC,
we can put in three teams next year because we
got a cap. Now, the good players are also going
to Virginia Tech and Virginia and not just to Clemson
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and Florida State and the big dogs that have the
big money. That's really who the salary cap is for.
And anybody that's disillusioned themselves into hey, this is gonna
help everybody. No, it's not gonna help everybody. It is
to help the power conferences, and that's all that it's
gonna help. There's nobody else that gets the benefit from this.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, I think honestly, I mean, it'll still like you're
still even with like the Vanderbilts of the world, which
there are, like obviously those programs like how is Vanderbilt
is a hard school to get into? I believe, like
engineering wise, I think it's a big engineering a bunch
of stuff, right, But I think, like you look at
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that and it's right in Nashville, You're like, why would
you not want to go player? Other than the stadium
does look like shit and it's hung together with like bolts,
nuts and like a crane with holding the video board.
But you kind of wonder, is like hand this feed
the camel that breaks it's back, like doesn't break the
camel's back.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Of these guys.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Can be contenders now like that to your question, I
don't know though, I'm not sure if this is enough
where I think it's like do you think a kid,
let's say, like a Bryce Underwood right who I'm starting to.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Feel I don't know about you. I'm starting to feel
like he might not be great.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Like I'm starting to feel like the expectation of this
kid is so here and he's kind of true himself,
like he's here that it's just it's not gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And I saw the reason is I saw the photo
of him with his belly out. I'm like, that's not great.
You didn't look like that before you came nan Arbor.
That's not good. You're eating good dot.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
But I just don't know if like there's gonna be
a kid like that that's gonna go to a Virginia
Tech anymore. Like I don't know if like you're they're
gonna get a top five quarterback in the country, like
you gotta steal one, or like you really gotta make
that offer really good. I don't know if these guys
are gonna be able to put together packages like.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
That, or do you have to or do you have
to do the Indiana route? Do you have to land
one of these top guys that hits the transfer portal.
And see, that's where I also thine this plays in
is if you are putting a salary cap, that's where
I think the transfer portal gets more competitive. Then it
becomes a little more of a true free agency because
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now you can get those schools like the Virginia Tech,
the Indiana's, Rutgers, Maryland. I'll throw an Arkansas in there,
like some of those.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Funny that's so funny you say that gone.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Like some of those schools that can't compete mm hmm
solely into recruiting game. But hey, let's let's shift our focus.
We're gonna be a transfer portal team. I think that's
gonna be Indiana for the next five years until someone
figures out how to do it better than they do.
They're just gonna say, look, we'll bring you for a year.
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We'll give you a shot. You're gonna play because you're
gonna be replacing a guy that just left in the
transfer portal. I mean, the kid they got from cal
is one of the best quarterbacks in the country.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
That's facts. That's a fact. I think.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Also the other one, like to your point, like, I
think it could also work in the effort of like
an Oklahoma right, they've kind of been ever since Brenton Bennables,
it's been tier Yeah, it's been you know, he had
he's not ten years wins the second year.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
He went like six and six last year.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
But like they got the kid from Washington State who
everybody thinks is one of the next big ones that
come out, Joe Burrow, Like, you know, transfer kind of thing.
I think everyone's trying to create the Joe Burrow thing. Too,
by the way, they're just trying to think. I'm honestly,
we need to get to a point of like that
was just one of the best teams ever collected ever,
Like just let that go. What was I saying, Oh,
(33:28):
but like it could bring a team back to that
promise like in Oklahoma. I mean, that's what Nebrass is
trying to do, right with Dylan Riola. It's just you're
trying to nail it. And I'll tell you honestly, I
was having a conversation with our buddy. Oh you're doing
something you're making it's terrible. I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Maybe it's me.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I might be I have the headphone court here.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Mm hmm, it's something hastatic, weird.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Oh, that's definitely me. Then here I muted anymore.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
No, that's good, Okay, good podcasting. So what I was
saying is I was talking to our buddy from uh
uh Kansas City the other day, a good pal, and
we were talking. I was making the point to him
we were talking about gms in college football and in
the next couple of years, I would say, five to ten,
you're gonna see like gms from the NFL a lot
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of those guys are gonna be the guys that come
from college because like they're gonna be like shit, if
you can naive at the eight think about how many
how many free agents are there in the NFL? What
a couple hundred maybe like per year something like that. Yes,
like you if you counted every person, even like the
people who probably are like practice squad people. These guys
are evaluating thousands of people, thousands of people. Like, the
(34:52):
whole landscape of football over the next five to ten
years is gonna be insane. Like those guys that are
all young now that are like handling all this transfer
portal shit, they're gonna get these big jobs. They're gonna
be like d NFL is fucking easy compared to what
we were dealing with back in the day. Like it's
like madness.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
So like the whole landscape has changing, it's gonna be insane.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Well, I mean it's not. There's no way this it's
sustainable in the current model that college football has created
for itself, plain and simple, it's not. It's not sustainable.
It's not gonna work. You're either gonna eat yourself alive
or eventually you're gonna have eight teams that are good
(35:36):
every year and that's it.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Oh, I'm going to ask you, would are you gonna
if it goes to this way, you're gonna pay pay
per view for college football games? I don't know if
you saw that old John skipperl or ESPN guy said
he thinks that's what Bobby eager and then we're gonna
do call it like the big games are gonna be
like you know, Bama Texas or Bama Ohio State. They're
(35:58):
gonna become like a paper review kind of model and
that's the future.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Would you Yeah? I was like, I'd hate that. I'd
probably I would.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I would do everything in my power actually to bootleg it,
to make sure they never get a dollar.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Well, here's what I would say. Our girlfriends and wives
would be very happy if we didn't go through with that.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I think they would be more pissed because my wife
will be like, holy shit, he's going to every extent,
Like I'd be going back channels like i'd be. I'd
be in discord of things like you who's got that link?
Who's got the link? Like I would be going if
I couldn't have if I don't get if I'll tell
you what will happen if they make me pay for Action.
I'll fucking lose it. I'll lose it.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
If I have to pay for Action football on a
Tuesday night like that.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Okay, you know, I'm glad you said this because this
has sort of been my feeling for about the last
six months to a year, this going to streaming thing
for sports. Yes, it's not the move. It's not the move.
It is not the move because it doesn't help us
the sportsman. It's trying to watch you.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Look, did you see did you like, like a perfect
example of that is the US Open schedule for how
you have to watch it.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Did you see that?
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I have not dix am to like eight USA, then
it goes to like fucking Peacock, and then it goes
back to regular TV, and then the next day it
follows a completely different format, Like it makes no sense.
Like it's like you're like, you're not even buying the sport,
(37:40):
You're buying a fucking time slot. So it's just crazy.
I mean, it's like you have I mean I do.
I've always been a cable guy. I've never cut the
cord because I hate the delay. But there was a
moment where I almost got got and almost suck that thing.
But I got everything now, so I watch every everything.
It's a pain in the ass to have to go
(38:02):
like why can't one sport, Like why can't we.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Just divvy that?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Like all right, you're gonna run golf, you're gonna run soccer,
you're gonna run college football, NFL YouTube can split it
because it's so much money, Like why can't we just
do that? Like split? But that sounds I guess that
sounds stupid because you know, why would I make less money?
Speaker 1 (38:23):
That sounds too logical too, that's all, Like, that's all,
it's too logical.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Rotated every couple of years, so everyone gets a piece
of the pot.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Well here's my thing, Like, okay, I.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Just debscribed socialism with TV.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I was gonna say, way to go.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
That's what I just did.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Great, Well, may like this baseball, you have to have
cable Holy ship. Yeah, because you have ESPN, TBS, Fox,
you have to have Apple TV, you have to have
YouTube TV. You have to have Roku because those are
(39:02):
all games the NFL. You need to have YouTube Netflix.
I'm not even counting the NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV.
You need to have paramount. You need to have regular
cable because of CBS, NBC, ABC, ESPN and Fox. You
need to have NFL networks, so you need to have
(39:23):
either cable or buy the NFL package online. Like eventually,
I don't I don't think it's gonna happen right now
because the newness is still there. But it feels like
eventually the consumer is gonna push back and say, no,
this isn't gonna work. Yeah, like the NBA, the NBA,
(39:47):
but with the NBA, during the week, you're gonna have
whatever game ESPN puts on on linear TV and that's it.
Amazon and Peacock will have games during the week, but
you gotta have streaming to watch them. Yeah yeah, and
then you gotta wait till Sunday. Like eventually, it's like
(40:09):
you're killing your product doing it that way. I think
the NHL's got the same problem. If it isn't, if
it isn't TNT Wednesday night, you're not guaranteed to see
hockey on TV.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
As I look at Gary, Bettman explained to me why
the game is so good right now on TV. That's
literally what's happening. I'm looking at him talk about how
the game is so good.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
So yeah, it's a fucking mess. I got a great example.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
My in laws live in California, like an hour and
some change outside LA, and they couldn't watch.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
The fucking Dodgers. They had to get Apple TV to
watch the Dodgers. Like that's crazy, Like how does that work?
Why is that a thing? Who's you know what? I'd
love to know who's the asshole that came up with
that idea? Right? That was? Like, you know, we're gonna
take it from local TV too. We gotta we got
to make sure we take.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
All that too, Like it's insane streaming dot we sound
like boomers.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Well, admittedly we feel like it, like we sit here
and it's like all right, well, what where am I
watching the sports today? All right? Well, I mean I'll
give you a perfect diet. I bought is that we
saw it direct to be. I bought MLB extra innings
because I love watching just put a game on on
a Saturday afternoon, but I hated watching it on streaming.
(41:31):
It buffered. It was behind. I was missing pitches, I
was missing plays, like no, just put it on freaking
linear TV and then if I miss it, it's because
I missed it.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
Also, this is a completely different point, but I'd like
to shame shame this. Are you a guy that let's
say the Ravens were playing you can even say Orioles
a Gas. If they were playing, like let's say Sunday
at one o'clock and you were doing something, then would
you record it, not watch it, avoid it, and then
go back and watch the whole game? No, that's crazy
(42:08):
person talk right it, that's crazy like those.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Well, because like how hard is it nowadays to avoid
the spoiler?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah? No, I I completely agree with that. I'm just
saying this.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
People still do, Like I have buddies that do that,
and I think it's I think it's Kukouville.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Now, Like here's here's here's what I would Here's what
I would do if it was a game I wanted
to see but couldn't make it, I would record it,
follow along, and then go back and watch it afterwards.
At least see it. Yeah, in person as opposed to wait,
could you wait.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Three hours to see if the Ravens won a football game?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
No, I'd have like I need to know. I was
driving back from the beach. True story, they're playing the Giants.
I had a game on radio. I was like, I
know I'm gonna miss it, but I'm gonna put it
on for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
The same thing with driving over the random serious whatever
the NFL dudes are on there, they do a decent job.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I'll throw them off, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Just to be like, I have it so I can
know what's happening, have an idea, and then if I
want to, I can go watch the replay later, so
I have I can see it happening. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
So yeah, I just wanted to shame those kind of
people for a moment. I actually have one that's worse
than that, if you can believe it.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
My h I don't.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
I have no shame in saying this too, because I
think I think this guy, I think he should be shamed.
My best friend Connor, his father. I don't know if
he still does it. But when we lived back in
the neighbor and when I lived in Maryland, like high school,
he was a Steelers fan, grew up in Pittsburgh, so
we he had direct TV when Sunday ticket you know big,
you know obviously like he can see the game.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Living in Maryland, you get Ravens or you know whatever
it is. So ill go over there. First time I
go over there, we're sitting there watching the game, and
it's like first quarter, uh, like first second drive.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
He says he has to go get up to get
something out of the oven, pauses the game.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Oh no no.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Then he comes back like five ten minutes later, resumes
and I'm sitting there like you gonna.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Fast forward or like, he goes, no, we gotta we
gotta see what happened.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
And I was like, I think I might have been
like fifteen, and I was like absolutely not, no way,
And I gave I told him that was crazy as
like a teenager. I was like, I'm in your house
and I'm about to talk back to you, like this
is insane.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
And he did it.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Maybe I don't even know one o'clock game. I think
it ended at like five, maybe maybe an hour after.
I mean he would also, I don't even know if
all the time, if he would fast forward through the
fucking commercials, I think he would watch this too, and
I'd be like, what the fuck, what's the point of
this man? Like you want to see fucking d Angela
(44:55):
Williams get packed on the backfield already got to the alert.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Dude like let's feed this up. Like I'm getting.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Alerts like day like Darius Hayward based cats in our
touchdown already.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
And I'm like, hell the fuck did that guy get
in the game?
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Like come on, like it's insane.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
H how to hell? How to hell? Am I'm missing this?
Oh never mind, I'm literally in a house with a
dumb ass.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
But so I won't even say that.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
I think it's just psychotic to like, like I get
like wanted to see every play, but like if I
knew the Steelers lost, I would just go back and
maybe look at some of the highlights. I'm not going
back to watch why we sucked. I don't want to
be pissed all over again, like like you miss the game.
People are like, oh, dude, that guy was terrible, Like dude,
actually I didn't see it, So I.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Don't think that right now. I actually think he's okay,
you know whatever.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
So yeah, just it's interesting with like we're giving actually
we're enabling that with the way streaming is going.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
That's the problem. We're enabling that behavior behavior.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Oh yeah, without a doubt, And you've gotta I don't
know how you fix it at this point, because it's
one of those like the genies out of a bottle. Yeah,
and good luck putting it back in. I mean, look,
I think it sucks that the Sunday tickets not on
linear TV anymore.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
I would agree with that. I think that's kind of lame.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Now, admittedly, YouTube TV does a fairly good job, but
if you live where like I do, where your internet
connection isn't always great, and it's a Sunday when your
team isn't playing, it can be kind of rough to
watch every once in a while because you can't watch
it in HD.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
No, no, you cannot.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
I did.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
I do know that you can change YouTube TV it's
limit the delay, but I don't actually know if there
is still a delay when you make that when you.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
Hit the button, it's like in the settings or something,
then there still is a delay.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
It's about a five to ten second delay. Because that's
like when I watch it, I can't watch it in
HD because like where I live, it's just hard hard
to stream at.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
That high of Carroll County.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Hell yeah, it's hard to stream HD quality without a buffering.
So I'll watch it in standard DEV, which isn't terrible.
Like standard DEV looks good on the big TV it's
just not as clear of a picture. But even then
it's like a ten second delay because I'll have to
sit there and check to make sure, Like all right,
I'm not like three plays behind, I'm about a half
(47:28):
a play.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Behind, yes, but streaming hopefully it get you get I
gotta switch to I ever heard.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Of Optimum, I've heard about it. That's what I got.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Now, that's what I'll be getting in Texas's gotta fucking
move along. I've tried them off, I've done Exfinity Spectrum.
Spectrum is, without a doubt, I'll speak for everybody, the
worst cable provider, internet provider on the planet.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
I think.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
I think that's that. I think I can safely say it.
It was the worst experience of all time. And also
they had like an archaic system. It would have been
like if you were able to save a format for.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Your TV guide for like two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Oh yes, oh yes.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
And then the TV remote They're like, yeah, we're gonna
keep that in the same too.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I'm like, what the fuck's going on over here?
Speaker 3 (48:20):
You guys can't invest in a new remote like I got,
like a goddamn I could. I could literally speak to
my think my remote like it's Siri and be like, hey,
can you put on Tropic Thunder? And by the way,
can you put on like a score on the side,
like spectrums over here?
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Like I gotta hit A B and C on the
remote and hold it to reset it or some skit
you got.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
The old school type three times to get to the
letter you want to yes.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
And I'm like, what the fuck are they doing over here? Oh? Terrible?
But hopefully the optim is good. I've gotten okay things,
so hopefully they're decent.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I guess we're gonna find out. And that's gonna do it.
I think Peyton for this podcast.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yeah, real quick, I'll just say it.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
For golf, I'm gonna bet on Scotti shuffler, I think everyone, shocker,
you should just do that.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I don't know why you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
So take whatever amount of money you were gonna do
somewhere and put it all towards that and just make money,
Like that's the best way to do it. And you
get to root for a guy that's like the best
in the world. So it's like super fun when you
root for someone who's really good.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
So yeah, yeah, I was talking golf there.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
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A lot of NFL news and nuggets that we're gonna
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So we're gonna talk a little bit about that and
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Dave stamweel we're down a couple of guys. David Malls
is on dad duty this week, so he is not
with us, and we don't know where Brandon is. I
think is the fair way to describe this, Peyton girod It's.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
An accurate way.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I think that's the only way I know how to
and respect my guy. But he's a busy guy. You know,
he's he's got a big, big boy job and he's gotta,
you know, do some stuff, which means sometimes he can't
respond to us, which I hope is why he's not
responding to us. And now that he's just fucking ignoring us.
But you know, that's just the way it goes sometimes.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, and you know what if he's if we've come
to find out he ignored us, we'll address that. We
have a zero no, we have a zero no ignoring
policy on the show. I have a on my arm.
I don't know where it came from.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
No, Mark down there. You're out of school, aren't you.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I am so a very good chance I cut it
on something I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But here there we go.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
That's right. So let's lets it is just us. And uh,
sometimes those are good pods. Sometimes they're not great pods.
We're gonna find out. We will find that. You may later,
We're gonna tease that out a little bit. But for
right now, the saga is over. Aaron Rodgers has finally
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signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Peyton, giving you your flowers.
You absolutely called this that he was gonna play this
game out until he didn't have so he didn't have
to come.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
He had to literally show up to work last day.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
That literally, at the moment that word mandatory showed up.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
He's all right, how long.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Could I go? What's the latest I could do this?
And he's like, They're like probably this day, and he's like,
all right, sweet. He probably also took pleasure in it,
being right in the middle of Elon Musk and Donald
Trump just on an all out Twitter ward. He's like, yo,
I know we said Friday, just drop it now, just
put it out right now. That's literally probably what he said.
He's like, let him know, I want to be right
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in the middle of all this. I want to be
right in the middle of the madness.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
News dumpull a Friday. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, So he was like, I gotta be I gotta
get involved. I gotta get involved in the mix. You know. Well,
it was, uh.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Look, here's all I can say about it. Obviously, I
think every Steelers Channe'll speak to them. This is not
obviously what we wanted. If you had to pick, I
think we all kind of ru on the side of
Justin Fields.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It came out. I don't know if you saw.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
That was shocking to me was he was their third option,
which that was not the shocking part.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
The shocking part was that they tried to trade.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
For Matthew Stafford was very shocking because it doesn't seem
like Matthew Stafford has a lot of years left in
his game or that he wants to.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Play for a lot I guess I could say.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But the fact that that was a higher option than
feel as well, as reported by Adam Schefter, is very
very I want to say, concerning for the Steelers management.
But like it is kind of bothers some that they
thought they would go with that guy and then Justin
Fields and then Rogers, like you know what I mean, Like,
wouldn't you put the younger guy in the front of them?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Maybe they see this big window that I don't see
to win now. But yeah, I'm I'm at this point.
I'm cool with the Rogers thing because we had nothing else.
I mean, there's no other way to put it. We
have no we had no other plan. I mean, Mason
Rudolph and Will Howard I thought would be fun to
like try to see how they navigate that it'd be
the hardest test of Mike Tollman's career. But I don't know,
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And I will say this, like you we could complain
about it. I can't complain about the money he took.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's a joke.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean he's making less than like probably a lot
of guys that I can think of. I mean he's
making like backup less almost less than backup my line,
I would say probably.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And it's I'm cool with that. That sounds sweet, but
it's it's saying that.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It's interesting you say the Steeler window because this feels
like the Steelers have gone all in for this year
and the reality is they don't have a defense that's
young and up and coming. The offense like they've done
a lot of investing offensively the last couple of years,
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and it feels like the defense is now getting old,
getting age, getting beat up to a point where you
kind of feel like the Steelers are about ready to
have to make an overhaul on the defense, and that's
going to close their window for a little bit. Still
thinking Pittsburgh's looking at twenty twenty six and saying that's
the quarterback class, yeah, that we want to be in
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because as we said before, and I don't want to
reiterate points, but Aaron Rodgers doesn't move the needle as
much as everybody acts like Aaron Rodgers is going to
move the needle. You're playing in a brutal division with
really good teams. You're playing in a brutal conference with
really good teams, and Aaron Rodgers doesn't make the Steelers
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a super Bowl contender. It makes them a playoff contender,
but it doesn't cover up the deficiencies the Steelers have.
So not to belabor a point, because we spent more
time on Aaron Rodgers, and I think we all want to.
I wanted to move on to some of the other
NFL news with Jay R Alexander getting released by the Packers,
their top corner, which after it's sounding like an offseason
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of trying to trade him to no avail, the Packers
have moved on. What do you make of that decision?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Shocking that no one would want to play with that guy?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Like I get like he is good, and but I
think it's starting to get to that point of he
still thinks he's here. It's you could all I mean, honestly,
I've been saying this. You can say about Jalen Ramsey too.
They think they're still right here, and they're real down
here now they're not as good and they there are
younger guys that are much better that will be coming
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around in free agency, or even guys that are slightly
maybe they're aged or older, that I could pay less
and still get about the same product.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Now, I'm not saying, like.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Jay Alexander is in like you know, a good corner
or anything like that, but like we'd be lying if
we said that we're gonna you're gonna get the same
production that you would be getting for whatever number he wanted.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I mean, he probably wanted top dollar. I would imagine
right like.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, if he were to get traded, he would want
to sign with that seame for a good deal, and
clearly no one wanted to pay that. And listen, also,
you have to like factor in the amount of money
that like he's gonna go out there and talk shit
and you have to deal with it, and you're like.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Are we probably like are we good enough for him
to talk to it?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Like he's got up and not to mention the injuries.
I mean, he's been injured a lot the last couple
of years. Exactly as good of a corner, yeah, as
good of a corner as he is now, is he
worth a two A playoff team on a one year deal,
because that's pretty much what he's looking for. I say, yeah,
I don't think you're gonna get a playoff team to
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want to sign you long term. You're gonna be signed
for a one year. We're we're going all in here,
the missing piece in the secondary sort of move. And
then I think you're gonna have to bite the bolt
and play for a bad team next year when you
want the top dollar, because that's who's gonna give you
the top dollar if you're Dye Alexander at this stage
because of everything you just said, because of the injury concerns,
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because of the on the field antics, and clearly driving
a wedge to a point where you didn't want to
come back to green Bay, and green Bay decided we're
better off cutting you than getting something for you. Is
a little telling to me. Last NFL nugget before we
talk about the Stanley Cup and the NBA Final here
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Nick Chubb. A weird offseason for him coming back off
his second knee injury, but he has a home and
it's with the Houston Texans.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah. I like that move.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I love it. I just think that's a great move.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
We we should actually talk about the more thing. Actually,
I'll ask of the just straight up like this, How
concerned are you with the Texans season, with what's going
on with CJ's shroud that he's just not throwing the football.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Well, you've got it. I'm not overly concerned right now
because we're in June. Like if this is in the
August and we're getting closer to the season and he's
not like he hasn't done his starting program. Now, okay,
we can raise some concerns, but I mean, how bad
that offensive line was the last two years. I'm not
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shocked at already he's his body's worn down a little bit. Yeah,
but that's why I love the Nick Chubb move personally,
because now you sort of say, hey, we're gonna give
you a run game that we're gonna stick with. It
isn't just oh god, Joe Mixon comes off the field.
We can't really run the ball. Whatever you're gonna get
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out of Nick Chubb. And Nick Chubb at this stage
in his career with the two knee injuries, until he
can show he's back one hundred percent, this is what
you're gonna see from Nick Chubb. He's gonna be a
number two back that hey, if it works, he's gonna
get himself another starting job somewhere. He's that good of
a running back, but yeah, you protect him with the
wear and tear, And the reality is that's like with
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some of those veteran backs you need that you need
to have two different running backs, and these are two
really good complimentary backs. I think with what Houston is
doing to help alleviate C. J. Stroud and to wear
and tear that he has taken on his body from
all the injury all the.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Do you think, like, I mean, it's obviously always kind
of been there.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I can't say like it it's it's becoming a thing.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
But do you think it's going to be start to
become more regular that every team has a one to
two like legos like for reference, I think honestly the
Jamiir Gibbs Daved Montgomery thing will become more of the
social Norman at the NFL just because you see, you
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like running back, you like the running next you have
you obviously draft him or bring him in for whatever reason,
and then you start to get this like kind of
flow of like it's it's weird where you normally would say, oh,
that guy needs to stay in and get more carries
to get a flow of the game. But these guys
have kind of like understood a flow of being subbed
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in and subbed out, but still have the hot end
whenever they get in. I just feel like that's what
the Texans want to try to do with Joe Mixon, Like,
even though they are both older, like you said, they
want to have more of.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
That rotation where they can you know, it keeps.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
It honestly keeps defenders on their heels because, like you know,
each of them are kind of different running backs.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I mean, that's just such a big point though.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, I think that's it.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
That's such a big point you bring up. Is if
you're gonna do the two headed monster at running back,
which at this stage with the wear and tear that
running backs are coming into the league with, that's what
you've got to do. You have to have the backs
be different so that when they come into the game.
That's what makes what Detroit does so effective. David Montgomery
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is a downhill, one cut at you running back. Jamir
Gibbs is sort of You're all around. He can catch
a ball out of the backfield, he can make you
miss in the open field, he can run you over.
He's the all important. If you're gonna do two running backs,
you've gotta have like, to be honest, that's what I
think Pittsburgh's problem was. You had this aim running back
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when you Tooknology Harris out, there was no difference when
Jalen Warren came into the game.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I would say they use him how they should have.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well, I agree, I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
The year prior, they definitely were doing it the right way.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
And then last year, I don't know what the fuck
anybody like Jalen Warren did to piss people off or
I mean, I guess that's the toll of a different coordinator.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I guess you could say with Arthur Smith.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
But I hope this year goes back to him, you know,
thinking ducking around screens and stuff. But I get your sentiment, like,
if you're gonna do this, that's how you have to
do it.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I think like, and I think that's where Nick Chubb
and Joe Mixon at this stage in their career. That's
why this is probably gonna work because Nick Chubb is
gonna have to be a one cutback until until he
proves that the acls his knees are intact. Joe Mixon
can still still be able to make you miss, still
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be able to make all the cuts, get outside, be
dynamical on the edge and inside where Nick Chubb's gonna
be more in between the tackles. Guy, I think it's
gonna work well, But you're right. I think that's where
we're headed in the NFL is you're gonna have to
have two backs. If you don't have two backs, you
don't have a running game, essentially, because when when you
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have to take the first guy out, it is such
a considerable drop off. Look at the Ravens. The Ravens
have three backs that are all completely different from each
other correct so at any time and really you can
throw Lamar Jackson as a runner in there, and there's
four different types of guys running the football at you
that all present a different challenge as when they get
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the ball in their hand, and that is hard for defenses.
If you just have one guy, I don't think you're
gonna be success as successful because he has when he
wears out or teams are able to adjust to him,
You've got to have that counter in your run game.
He's still got to be able to run the ball.
At the end of today, the NFL loves to be
a passing league, and it's fun, it's exciting to watch.
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But look at the teams that make it to the
Super Bowl. What do they all have? They have a
great run game. Yeah, Philadelphia doesn't make it without sae
Quon Barkley.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I mean I would say it's like, I think it's funny.
It's like we get in this argument like it's a
passing league now, but we always get back to that
part at some point in the season or whether we
realize it in the playoffs or we realize it later
and at the end of the regular season, whenever you
start to realize that these guys that are hanging all
have like that guy right like they have whatever whoever
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it may be, they they're able to.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Run the ball. I mean really, and I think, honestly,
I think the best the biggest part.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And I'm not breaking any I'm not coming up with
a new idea here, but I think like Jalen Hurts
probably benefited more because he was able to take off,
like take less pressure on himself, you know, like it
wasn't relying on on him. And now I'm not saying
he you know, the first time around. I don't think
he ever really felt the pressure like that anyways, But
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even just not having to worry about that, or like
knowing you're gonna get forty yards here because you know
how it's gonna play out, at least at minimum, You're like,
oh great, all right, You're already thinking what's next, you
know what I mean, You're thinking about what do we
want to do on the next play if it's four
yards or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So yeah, I mean it's it's very important.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I think I'm curious to see how guys like Sai
Kuon and guys like Derrick Henry do this year after
a year of such success, and you know, with a
new team, how does that look in the division? Do
people start to figure I mean eventually the NFL, they
always figure something out. You know, one team may or multiple.
But we'll see what happens with all of that.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
We're gonna shift gears here a little bit and talk
about the stand like Cup final, because it's been a
hell of the two games. Going back to Florida for
Game three? What did your take on the series two games?
In Peyton?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Uh, Connor McDavid is trying his damnas. I mean, the
guy I don't know if he saw this just the
other night with the toe drag just filth.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I mean, there's not many guys that can do that
that coordinated. But there's always a fucking rat. There's always
a rat in the building, and Brad marsh In is
always a fucking rat man. So I couldn't believe, like
why I was at a wedding, but I saw like
on the bar like him. You know, I caught how
it ended. I mean how he got the breakaway and
how he did. I mean, he like it was like
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he had the click remote. He fast he rewind back
into like.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The two thousands.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
He was like, oh, I got this ship Unlocke's Gordon.
I mean, it's it's a battle. I would say that
it's gotta go six or seven. It's just a fucking
It's an absolute test. And these guys played each other
last year. I think they're so nerve trying to stop
all these things that happened in the previous matchup that
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like that's allowing for more mistakes or I guess higher scoring.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I guess there's been a huge amount of breakaways into
two games, which is una this time of year.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You feel would be like tighter, right, But you know
it's not. It's weird.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
What's amazed me through the two games is what I
thought the difference, as we talked about in the goaltending,
would be so much more magnified, and it hasn't been.
He has not. Now Stuart Skinner has been serviceable but
not outstanding by any means. But Sergei Bribrovski, who usually
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stands on his head this time of year, has been
a human for a lack of better terms, something again
we don't see a lot of this time of year
from him. But I think to your point, Florida's been
here the last three years, Edmonton going back this year.
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If you go back and look at last year, Edmonton
didn't play this confident early in the series. Last year,
it took them a little bit. It took McDavid, It
took dry Sidle and those guys a couple of games
to sort of get themselves. Those jitters. You don't have
that this year. Both are playing. The Edmonton's forwards and
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their frontline guys are playing with an immense amount of confidence,
and you're seeing it kind of translated through the team.
And I think Florida, I don't want to say underestimated.
But I think Florida thought they could come in and
kind of exact their will on Edmonton like they did
last year, and eventually Edmonton and wilt and that has
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through two games now. Again, a lot of that could
be you're at home, you're in Edmonton, you have the
home iice advantage, and you get a little extra bump.
I'm interested to see what happens here tonight in Florida.
But I think edd Florida had to do a little
bit in game two of like, all right, we need
to readjust because we're not gonna be able to push
this team around like we did last year. It's not
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gonna work. They're not as phased by that this year.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, I mean, I agree, I just honest I don't
even have an inkling of which way II leen anymore.
I think Florida is gonna win it just I think
they're just so there's so much better like depth wise
in my opinion, but maybe not. If you honestly, I'd
go like this, whoever wins to Night's wins.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Series absolutely, and I think there's no there's no other
way because you get up to one in this type
of series and it's particularly if it's close. If you're Edmonton,
you're just sick to your stomach because of had a
chance to put it away. Get that way, get too Oh,
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go to Florida and have their backs against the wall
and then miss that, like miss that opportunity at home,
you go down to one here, Florida is gonna run
you out of the building in the next two games.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, I mean, that's just exactly what I think will happen.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
So, I mean, I think it's I don't want to
say must win, but I think it's important for either team,
like someone someone has to like set the tone for
the rest of this series.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And I mean, is it gonna be just.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
On cocaine and crack the whole rest of the way
of five four six five?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Or is it gonna be are they gonna tighten up tonight?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I'm leaning towards cracking cocaine because they're in Florida. But
that's just me, you know, I just that's what I'm
thinking about those guys. That's the way they want to play.
They like the chaos of it, and I think Edmonton,
I don't think they know how to navigate it when
it gets you know, it becomes like a shootout like that.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You know, I think they'd rather keep it more close
and conservative, But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I am rooting by the way four had to happen.
Give me the chaos because the games been exciting, been
an awesome two games. That's why I felt bad for
the NBA because you had such a great game one
of the finals, then turn around and and and throw
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a dud back up there is a is a tough
one to swallow. The first one was gonna be a
dud though it was outside of Tyrese Haliverton and Indiana
putting one together. But but like we've talked about that,
with that one, we all know Oklahoma City is the
better team. That's why it was.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
It would be Is it crazy to say if they
were to lose this it would be a bigger choke
than when the Warriors like blew it.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Oh no, No, I think that's a that's a fair take.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Like not saying the three one I think three one
was really bad. I'm saying more like going into that
series like they were even though it was Lebron James, Like,
I mean, that was supposed to be the best basketball
team of all time.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
So yeah, well, and roster wise, Oklahoma City is the
best roster in the NBA today up and down. Their
depth is great. Like they should win this series against
Indiana purely because they are the more complete team. They
don't win it, this will be one of the worst
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and it will make it worse is if Oklahoma City
doesn't ever make it back. Not saying that that will happen,
but if they never make it back, that'll be a
really bad look for Oklahoma City if they don't win this.
But well, Indiana, you can't roll them out. Going in.
Going back for Game three will be fun. But Oklahoma
City should win this because they are the more complete
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team up and down that roster. All Right, we're gonna
catch our breath and we'll be back in a moment.
All right, apologies for that. We had to take a
little bit of a breather here because you know, it's
just two of us talking sports, so we gotta hydrate
the vocal cords a little bit. But college football is
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in such an interesting spot now when now a salary
cap being put in so Peyton, Geront. The question I
have to you is this, does the salary cap save
some of these smaller schools in your eyes like it
like in my eyes, it does that are in these
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big conferences.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Honestly, I kind of we're shit chatting on off camera,
but this idea, it's kind of popped in my head.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It kind of goes into the theory of.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
For at least the beginning of it, and it kind
of reminds you of like how Formula one is a
little structured, right, Like there used to not be a
salary cap and it was always the top four teams
and then they put you know, but they put in
a budget or whatever, and if you go over the
budgets be penalized. That is also something that we don't
have clarity on what happens if Ohio State spends you know,
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just a measly hundred grand over, you know, and they
can't they you know, they're like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You know, we thought you'd let that slide. No idea.
What happens.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Then maybe NCAA gets power again, they have to intervene
or something. But for a while, like sure they're the
salary cap now, right, but Bowling Green won't be able
to reach that number, you know what I mean, They're
not going to reach the tippy tippy top to the
end of it, they're not gonna be able to They're
only gonna they'll probably I'm not saying they're gonna put
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no money into it, but the amount of money they're
gonna be putting in for their whole budget and department
isn't gonna come near to fucking Alabama's football and basketball
just those two, right. So I think it'll take time,
uh for everybody to try to figure out how they
can navigate and get close to that pop, you know,
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reaching the full allocation of that budget.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But I think for at least a couple of years
it'll it'll still.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Be you know, top dog is gonna roll until you
figure out a way around it. I did see the
interesting article. I don't know if you saw this today,
Penn State and UCLA private equity funding. I don't know
if you heard this getting funding for their football team
through private equity. Both athletic credit directors deny involvement with
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private equity amid the house settlement. But that's one way
I started thinking about, like you get you know, brand Stevens.
We do have an update. He just out out of
the office seven pm. Brick by brick, not stick by
stick guy. Look at that guy putting in the hours,
my tax dollars are working for me today. Yeah, I think, honestly,
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this is how these bigger schools will get there. Their
schools can make up a gap, they'll have to go
private equity with it. They'll have to get some more.
They're going to have to get more money than just
their alumni or the local businesses or the local truck
guy that's willing to give you know, fifteen thousand dollars
a year to the program or what ever it is. Right,
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they're gonna have to go outside to a furn that's
gonna give them capital.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
But I mean, who knows what that does to your school? Right?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Like what if you don't pay back those if it's
like a loan type, what do you don't pay that back?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
So I think it's just a wild while west. Still,
it's just they.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Have more Alley have mo money out there that they
can pay out. They're like, fuck, yeah, I can give
Jeremiah with three million dollars now for sure.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Well, and let's call spade a spade. This salary cap
is not for the Bowling Greens. No, this is for
your Rutgers, your Vandy's, your your your big programs that
are trying to compete in the Big Ten, the ACC,
(28:44):
the Big twelve, yeah, and that, but aren't in that
class that we talked about before with some of the
big dogs in terms of their money and their investors
and the alumni base that they can pull from. So
what you're gonna what you're seeing is this is saying, hey,
we're gonna keep the conferences competitive so that we can
(29:08):
get more teams in. If we have six schools in
a Big ten that can compete for a national title
and not just three. Yeah, or hey, if we're the ACC,
we can put in three teams next year because we
got a cap. Now, the good players are also going
to Virginia Tech and Virginia and not just to Clemson
(29:30):
and Florida State and the big dogs that have the
big money. That's really who the salary cap is for.
And anybody that's disillusioned themselves into hey, this is gonna
help everybody. No, it's not gonna help everybody. It is
to help the power conferences, and that's all that it's
gonna help. There's nobody else that gets the benefit from this.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, I think honestly, I mean, it'll still like you're
still even with like the Vanderbilts of the world, which
there are, like obviously those programs like how is Vanderbilt
is a hard school to get into? I believe, like
engineering wise, I think it's a big engineering a bunch
of stuff, right, But I think, like you look at
(30:16):
that and it's right in Nashville, You're like, why would
you not want to go player? Other than the stadium
does look like shit and it's hung together with like bolts,
nuts and like a crane with holding the video board.
But you kind of wonder, is like hand this feed
the camel that breaks it's back, like doesn't break the
camel's back.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Of these guys.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Can be contenders now like that to your question, I
don't know though, I'm not sure if this is enough
where I think it's like do you think a kid,
let's say, like a Bryce Underwood right who I'm starting to.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Feel I don't know about you. I'm starting to feel
like he might not be great.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Like I'm starting to feel like the expectation of this
kid is so here and he's kind of true himself,
like he's here that it's just it's not gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And I saw the reason is I saw the photo
of him with his belly out. I'm like, that's not great.
You didn't look like that before you came nan Arbor.
That's not good. You're eating good dot.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
But I just don't know if like there's gonna be
a kid like that that's gonna go to a Virginia
Tech anymore. Like I don't know if like you're they're
gonna get a top five quarterback in the country, like
you gotta steal one, or like you really gotta make
that offer really good. I don't know if these guys
are gonna be able to put together packages like.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
That, or do you have to or do you have
to do the Indiana route? Do you have to land
one of these top guys that hits the transfer portal.
And see, that's where I also thine this plays in
is if you are putting a salary cap, that's where
I think the transfer portal gets more competitive. Then it
becomes a little more of a true free agency because
(31:55):
now you can get those schools like the Virginia Tech,
the Indiana's, Rutgers, Maryland. I'll throw an Arkansas in there,
like some of those.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Funny that's so funny you say that gone.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Like some of those schools that can't compete mm hmm
solely into recruiting game. But hey, let's let's shift our focus.
We're gonna be a transfer portal team. I think that's
gonna be Indiana for the next five years until someone
figures out how to do it better than they do.
They're just gonna say, look, we'll bring you for a year.
(32:30):
We'll give you a shot. You're gonna play because you're
gonna be replacing a guy that just left in the
transfer portal. I mean, the kid they got from cal
is one of the best quarterbacks in the country.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
That's facts. That's a fact. I think.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Also the other one, like to your point, like, I
think it could also work in the effort of like
an Oklahoma right, they've kind of been ever since Brenton Bennables,
it's been tier Yeah, it's been you know, he had
he's not ten years wins the second year.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
He went like six and six last year.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
But like they got the kid from Washington State who
everybody thinks is one of the next big ones that
come out, Joe Burrow, Like, you know, transfer kind of thing.
I think everyone's trying to create the Joe Burrow thing. Too,
by the way, they're just trying to think. I'm honestly,
we need to get to a point of like that
was just one of the best teams ever collected ever,
Like just let that go. What was I saying, Oh,
(33:28):
but like it could bring a team back to that
promise like in Oklahoma. I mean, that's what Nebrass is
trying to do, right with Dylan Riola. It's just you're
trying to nail it. And I'll tell you honestly, I
was having a conversation with our buddy. Oh you're doing
something you're making it's terrible. I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Maybe it's me.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I might be I have the headphone court here.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Mm hmm, it's something hastatic, weird.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Oh, that's definitely me. Then here I muted anymore.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
No, that's good, Okay, good podcasting. So what I was
saying is I was talking to our buddy from uh
uh Kansas City the other day, a good pal, and
we were talking. I was making the point to him
we were talking about gms in college football and in
the next couple of years, I would say, five to ten,
you're gonna see like gms from the NFL a lot
(34:27):
of those guys are gonna be the guys that come
from college because like they're gonna be like shit, if
you can naive at the eight think about how many
how many free agents are there in the NFL? What
a couple hundred maybe like per year something like that. Yes,
like you if you counted every person, even like the
people who probably are like practice squad people. These guys
are evaluating thousands of people, thousands of people. Like, the
(34:52):
whole landscape of football over the next five to ten
years is gonna be insane. Like those guys that are
all young now that are like handling all this transfer
portal shit, they're gonna get these big jobs. They're gonna
be like d NFL is fucking easy compared to what
we were dealing with back in the day. Like it's
like madness.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
So like the whole landscape has changing, it's gonna be insane.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Well, I mean it's not. There's no way this it's
sustainable in the current model that college football has created
for itself, plain and simple, it's not. It's not sustainable.
It's not gonna work. You're either gonna eat yourself alive
or eventually you're gonna have eight teams that are good
(35:36):
every year and that's it.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Oh, I'm going to ask you, would are you gonna
if it goes to this way, you're gonna pay pay
per view for college football games? I don't know if
you saw that old John skipperl or ESPN guy said
he thinks that's what Bobby eager and then we're gonna
do call it like the big games are gonna be
like you know, Bama Texas or Bama Ohio State. They're
(35:58):
gonna become like a paper review kind of model and
that's the future.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Would you Yeah? I was like, I'd hate that. I'd
probably I would.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I would do everything in my power actually to bootleg it,
to make sure they never get a dollar.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Well, here's what I would say. Our girlfriends and wives
would be very happy if we didn't go through with that.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I think they would be more pissed because my wife
will be like, holy shit, he's going to every extent,
Like I'd be going back channels like i'd be. I'd
be in discord of things like you who's got that link?
Who's got the link? Like I would be going if
I couldn't have if I don't get if I'll tell
you what will happen if they make me pay for Action.
I'll fucking lose it. I'll lose it.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
If I have to pay for Action football on a
Tuesday night like that.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Okay, you know, I'm glad you said this because this
has sort of been my feeling for about the last
six months to a year, this going to streaming thing
for sports. Yes, it's not the move. It's not the move.
It is not the move because it doesn't help us
the sportsman. It's trying to watch you.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Look, did you see did you like, like a perfect
example of that is the US Open schedule for how
you have to watch it.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Did you see that?
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I have not dix am to like eight USA, then
it goes to like fucking Peacock, and then it goes
back to regular TV, and then the next day it
follows a completely different format, Like it makes no sense.
Like it's like you're like, you're not even buying the sport,
(37:40):
You're buying a fucking time slot. So it's just crazy.
I mean, it's like you have I mean I do.
I've always been a cable guy. I've never cut the
cord because I hate the delay. But there was a
moment where I almost got got and almost suck that thing.
But I got everything now, so I watch every everything.
It's a pain in the ass to have to go
(38:02):
like why can't one sport, Like why can't we.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Just divvy that?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Like all right, you're gonna run golf, you're gonna run soccer,
you're gonna run college football, NFL YouTube can split it
because it's so much money, Like why can't we just
do that? Like split? But that sounds I guess that
sounds stupid because you know, why would I make less money?
Speaker 1 (38:23):
That sounds too logical too, that's all, Like, that's all,
it's too logical.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Rotated every couple of years, so everyone gets a piece
of the pot.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Well here's my thing, Like, okay, I.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Just debscribed socialism with TV.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I was gonna say, way to go.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
That's what I just did.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Great, Well, may like this baseball, you have to have
cable Holy ship. Yeah, because you have ESPN, TBS, Fox,
you have to have Apple TV, you have to have
YouTube TV. You have to have Roku because those are
(39:02):
all games the NFL. You need to have YouTube Netflix.
I'm not even counting the NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV.
You need to have paramount. You need to have regular
cable because of CBS, NBC, ABC, ESPN and Fox. You
need to have NFL networks, so you need to have
(39:23):
either cable or buy the NFL package online. Like eventually,
I don't I don't think it's gonna happen right now
because the newness is still there. But it feels like
eventually the consumer is gonna push back and say, no,
this isn't gonna work. Yeah, like the NBA, the NBA,
(39:47):
but with the NBA, during the week, you're gonna have
whatever game ESPN puts on on linear TV and that's it.
Amazon and Peacock will have games during the week, but
you gotta have streaming to watch them. Yeah yeah, and
then you gotta wait till Sunday. Like eventually, it's like
(40:09):
you're killing your product doing it that way. I think
the NHL's got the same problem. If it isn't, if
it isn't TNT Wednesday night, you're not guaranteed to see
hockey on TV.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
As I look at Gary, Bettman explained to me why
the game is so good right now on TV. That's
literally what's happening. I'm looking at him talk about how
the game is so good.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
So yeah, it's a fucking mess. I got a great example.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
My in laws live in California, like an hour and
some change outside LA, and they couldn't watch.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
The fucking Dodgers. They had to get Apple TV to
watch the Dodgers. Like that's crazy, Like how does that work?
Why is that a thing? Who's you know what? I'd
love to know who's the asshole that came up with
that idea? Right? That was? Like, you know, we're gonna
take it from local TV too. We gotta we got
to make sure we take.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
All that too, Like it's insane streaming dot we sound
like boomers.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Well, admittedly we feel like it, like we sit here
and it's like all right, well, what where am I
watching the sports today? All right? Well, I mean I'll
give you a perfect diet. I bought is that we
saw it direct to be. I bought MLB extra innings
because I love watching just put a game on on
a Saturday afternoon, but I hated watching it on streaming.
(41:31):
It buffered. It was behind. I was missing pitches, I
was missing plays, like no, just put it on freaking
linear TV and then if I miss it, it's because
I missed it.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
Also, this is a completely different point, but I'd like
to shame shame this. Are you a guy that let's
say the Ravens were playing you can even say Orioles
a Gas. If they were playing, like let's say Sunday
at one o'clock and you were doing something, then would
you record it, not watch it, avoid it, and then
go back and watch the whole game? No, that's crazy
(42:08):
person talk right it, that's crazy like those.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Well, because like how hard is it nowadays to avoid
the spoiler?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah? No, I I completely agree with that. I'm just
saying this.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
People still do, Like I have buddies that do that,
and I think it's I think it's Kukouville.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Now, Like here's here's here's what I would Here's what
I would do if it was a game I wanted
to see but couldn't make it, I would record it,
follow along, and then go back and watch it afterwards.
At least see it. Yeah, in person as opposed to wait,
could you wait.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Three hours to see if the Ravens won a football game?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
No, I'd have like I need to know. I was
driving back from the beach. True story, they're playing the Giants.
I had a game on radio. I was like, I
know I'm gonna miss it, but I'm gonna put it
on for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
The same thing with driving over the random serious whatever
the NFL dudes are on there, they do a decent job.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I'll throw them off, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Just to be like, I have it so I can
know what's happening, have an idea, and then if I
want to, I can go watch the replay later, so
I have I can see it happening. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
So yeah, I just wanted to shame those kind of
people for a moment. I actually have one that's worse
than that, if you can believe it.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
My h I don't.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
I have no shame in saying this too, because I
think I think this guy, I think he should be shamed.
My best friend Connor, his father. I don't know if
he still does it. But when we lived back in
the neighbor and when I lived in Maryland, like high school,
he was a Steelers fan, grew up in Pittsburgh, so
we he had direct TV when Sunday ticket you know big,
you know obviously like he can see the game.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Living in Maryland, you get Ravens or you know whatever
it is. So ill go over there. First time I
go over there, we're sitting there watching the game, and
it's like first quarter, uh, like first second drive.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
He says he has to go get up to get
something out of the oven, pauses the game.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Oh no no.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Then he comes back like five ten minutes later, resumes
and I'm sitting there like you gonna.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Fast forward or like, he goes, no, we gotta we
gotta see what happened.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
And I was like, I think I might have been
like fifteen, and I was like absolutely not, no way,
And I gave I told him that was crazy as
like a teenager. I was like, I'm in your house
and I'm about to talk back to you, like this
is insane.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
And he did it.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Maybe I don't even know one o'clock game. I think
it ended at like five, maybe maybe an hour after.
I mean he would also, I don't even know if
all the time, if he would fast forward through the
fucking commercials, I think he would watch this too, and
I'd be like, what the fuck, what's the point of
this man? Like you want to see fucking d Angela
(44:55):
Williams get packed on the backfield already got to the alert.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Dude like let's feed this up. Like I'm getting.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Alerts like day like Darius Hayward based cats in our
touchdown already.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
And I'm like, hell the fuck did that guy get
in the game?
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Like come on, like it's insane.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
H how to hell? How to hell? Am I'm missing this?
Oh never mind, I'm literally in a house with a
dumb ass.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
But so I won't even say that.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
I think it's just psychotic to like, like I get
like wanted to see every play, but like if I
knew the Steelers lost, I would just go back and
maybe look at some of the highlights. I'm not going
back to watch why we sucked. I don't want to
be pissed all over again, like like you miss the game.
People are like, oh, dude, that guy was terrible, Like dude,
actually I didn't see it, So I.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Don't think that right now. I actually think he's okay,
you know whatever.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
So yeah, just it's interesting with like we're giving actually
we're enabling that with the way streaming is going.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
That's the problem. We're enabling that behavior behavior.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Oh yeah, without a doubt, And you've gotta I don't
know how you fix it at this point, because it's
one of those like the genies out of a bottle. Yeah,
and good luck putting it back in. I mean, look,
I think it sucks that the Sunday tickets not on
linear TV anymore.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
I would agree with that. I think that's kind of lame.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Now, admittedly, YouTube TV does a fairly good job, but
if you live where like I do, where your internet
connection isn't always great, and it's a Sunday when your
team isn't playing, it can be kind of rough to
watch every once in a while because you can't watch
it in HD.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
No, no, you cannot.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
I did.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
I do know that you can change YouTube TV it's
limit the delay, but I don't actually know if there
is still a delay when you make that when you.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
Hit the button, it's like in the settings or something,
then there still is a delay.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
It's about a five to ten second delay. Because that's
like when I watch it, I can't watch it in
HD because like where I live, it's just hard hard
to stream at.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
That high of Carroll County.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Hell yeah, it's hard to stream HD quality without a buffering.
So I'll watch it in standard DEV, which isn't terrible.
Like standard DEV looks good on the big TV it's
just not as clear of a picture. But even then
it's like a ten second delay because I'll have to
sit there and check to make sure, Like all right,
I'm not like three plays behind, I'm about a half
(47:28):
a play.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Behind, yes, but streaming hopefully it get you get I
gotta switch to I ever heard.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Of Optimum, I've heard about it. That's what I got.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Now, that's what I'll be getting in Texas's gotta fucking
move along. I've tried them off, I've done Exfinity Spectrum.
Spectrum is, without a doubt, I'll speak for everybody, the
worst cable provider, internet provider on the planet.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
I think.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
I think that's that. I think I can safely say it.
It was the worst experience of all time. And also
they had like an archaic system. It would have been
like if you were able to save a format for.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Your TV guide for like two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Oh yes, oh yes.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
And then the TV remote They're like, yeah, we're gonna
keep that in the same too.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I'm like, what the fuck's going on over here?
Speaker 3 (48:20):
You guys can't invest in a new remote like I got,
like a goddamn I could. I could literally speak to
my think my remote like it's Siri and be like, hey,
can you put on Tropic Thunder? And by the way,
can you put on like a score on the side,
like spectrums over here?
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Like I gotta hit A B and C on the
remote and hold it to reset it or some skit
you got.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
The old school type three times to get to the
letter you want to yes.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
And I'm like, what the fuck are they doing over here? Oh? Terrible?
But hopefully the optim is good. I've gotten okay things,
so hopefully they're decent.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I guess we're gonna find out. And that's gonna do it.
I think Peyton for this podcast.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yeah, real quick, I'll just say it.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
For golf, I'm gonna bet on Scotti shuffler, I think everyone, shocker,
you should just do that.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I don't know why you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
So take whatever amount of money you were gonna do
somewhere and put it all towards that and just make money,
Like that's the best way to do it. And you
get to root for a guy that's like the best
in the world. So it's like super fun when you
root for someone who's really good.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
So yeah, yeah, I was talking golf there.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
It is We covered it all this week except for baseball.
We didn't really tell baseball, but that's okay. So for
Peyton Grad I am Dave stom Will. This has been
the opening kick AF podcast. Enjoy the week of sports.
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