June 17, 2025 • 58 mins
On this show: Dave Steinwedel and Payton Girod discuss:
why are all inclusive resorts so expensive (1:10-7:45)
The shocking trade of Rafael Devers to the Giants and how could we get to this point. (7:46-22:30)
The guys discuss whether Edmonton shot themselves in the foot, McDavid and his future. (22:31-35:00)
Plus NBA Finals and ESPN is not what it was. (35:01-END)
why are all inclusive resorts so expensive (1:10-7:45)
The shocking trade of Rafael Devers to the Giants and how could we get to this point. (7:46-22:30)
The guys discuss whether Edmonton shot themselves in the foot, McDavid and his future. (22:31-35:00)
Plus NBA Finals and ESPN is not what it was. (35:01-END)
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(01:16):
Kickoff Podcast. Rolling into the dog days this summer, but
the sports news has been lively. It has been a
fun weekend of sports talk and we're going to continue
that here today. I'm your host Dave Smil, joined as
always by my great co host Peyton Girod. Peyton, you're
(01:37):
looking a little rough there with the house right now
because you're getting ready to make the move and you're
not with us next week. So give me the feel
and the thought right now as you're getting ready to move.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I have at the moment no idea how me and
sav we're gonna unpack this truck by ourselves. So I
think the journey out there, I will be looking up
movers in Lubbock. So if you happen to be a
mover in Lubbick, listen to this, let me fucking know
what's good because I'm gonna need that help. But no,
(02:13):
big truck did like a pod you pack thing. So
they pulled out with the truck this morning. Build that
bitch up, and yeah, it was on its way. So
we're going to Pro Football Hall of Fame on Friday.
Gonna do that and check it out on my way
out of the East Coast and then you know it's
it's Mojo football, baby, it's West Texas. This is it
(02:35):
is Friday night lights and ready to roll, and you
know we're gearing up big shift, so we'll see, but
uh yeah, looking forward to it. I will update you
on the drive. I will update you guys on how
terrible it's going or how good it's going, because I
will have a dog with me for the entirety of
(02:56):
the twenty two hours, so we'll see how many stops
that goes. All probably pissed more than the dog that
and the dog will be like, you're you're a disgrace.
But uh yeah, it's going well, it's going well.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I love that for your pinton, I really do.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Are you doing we? I mean, no one ever asked
you how you're doing, Dave. It's a fair man. It's
a thankless job you have being the host.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It very much is a thankless job. But you know what,
somebody's got to do it. So yeah, we're gonna We're
gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Are you in summer mode yet or I.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Am picked up some summer work, you know, because like
I did the whole like not working last summer. M hm,
but that rock though, it rocked, But I like I
got to a point where I was like, all right, well,
money wise, probably not the smartest to do that again,
So that's probably smart.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, that's probably true.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Then I was also like, you know what, like I
just kind of like if I'm busy, the days go
by faster. Like That's the one thing that I realized
is like the days just kind of dragged. Yeah, And
so I'm like, I'm kind of okay if we are
like things are moving all around. Apologize I'm reading something
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at the moment.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
By the way, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Why is it like all inclusives are just so expensive
it's not even fun.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Nah, I'm telling you you gotta find a good deal.
I can help you find a good deal. Where are
you looking?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Well, we we want to go away Christmas, uh, like
weekend of Christmas in the New Year's somewhere warm because
we have we have literally like a two week off
Christmas break from the school system. But uh yeah, it's
it's very expensive. If you have never tried to try
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that time of year.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Where are you uh? Where are you looking?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Jamaica is the first guess, because we've never been. I
neither one of us have ever been outside the country.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So okay. So also wordvice, get your passport, just do
it now because that ship takes forever.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, it's on the to do list, and you.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Say that I'm around you, and then we're gonna be
in December and you're gonna be like, fuck, I never
did that ship. And I'm like, Dave, I told you
Tony back in June, you gotta get that thing done.
Look at uh, look at the Dominican Republic, dude. I've
been there twice. It's been for weddings, so probably a
little different pricing because like probably a discount somehow some way.
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But we went for like four or five days either,
at which time definitely go five days at least, and
it's fucking awesome. And it wasn't that bad. It was
not that bad. I think the biggest part is you
got to find the flight and the other shit, Like
you gotta find like there's times in the week that
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are like good deals and stuff, and then like but
you know.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
As expensive as like a Jamaica All inclusive is do
you want to know how like Key West to get
to key West, Florida is just ridiculously expensive.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, exactly. The one thing I'll say is like, if
you're I wouldn't go. I've been. I've been to a
couple of inclusives. I've been to three different now I
wouldn't go back to Mexico. It was okay, but like
it was just kind of like the food was like, nah,
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it was surprisingly meh, but like the drinking was fucking
it was a great time. I mean that was It
was probably the best all inclusive drinking spot I've ever done,
But the d r I Rock Cafe would be my best.
Fat There's so much to do there, and like it's
just a massive place. I think that's where you should
try to figure out find the time that I don't know,
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they're running a deal or someone's running a deal. I
think that's what you do. Hold on, wait, we got
to rewind here, Dave and his lady is that I'm
assuming your lady. Yeah, damn doing a little trip. Look
at that.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We've we've done it. We've done a few, we've done
a future.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Go to Ocean City doesn't count.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
We went to Sarasota like for spring training.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Okay, yeah, that's right. You did say that. That's all
you did. You did the Jimmy fallon, you did the
fuck what a fever pitch? Yes, you did the thing
where you're she thought you were on the team and
but you just you just go to spring train and
just see that's what she probably thought. She'd like, Okay, uh.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, she had to lower her standards. Is what is
what you're getting at? It's okay, that's what happens.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I mean, I love that fucking movie. I think it's
the funniest. Like she thought he was on the team
when he was explaining it, and that's probably what every
girl thinks when they're like, oh, like, so you're you
get to like make opinions on the teams like, well,
uh not really, but we have them. We have very
strong opinions on them. Wow, look at Dave. Dave you know,
(08:17):
will you, young man, I'll tell you what a gentleman
a scholar. This is not.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
This is not where I expected this to go to
start to. This is. Yeah, this is a great pod.
We are going to talk some sports here in a
little bit. The big baseball trade. This is This is
I think the first time in a while I can
think that there's been this big of a trade to
happen this early in the season in baseball that has
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dominated the headlines.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
And the airwaves like it has.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
We're gonna get into that here, and really, if you
haven't heard or don't know what we're talking about. Raphael
Dever is the third basement for the Boston Red Sox,
who signed a massive eleven year contract extension with Boston
in twenty twenty three, was traded to the San Francisco
Giants in a package that's sent back two current major
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league pitchers and Jordan Hicks and Kyle Harrison, and two prospects,
one of them the fourth overall prospect in the Giant
organization who they drafted last year out of college. Plus
the Giants are eating the rest of the contract that
Boston gave Devers. So before we get into a lot
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of the nitty gritty about this, because there's a lot
to unpack with this trade, I'm gonna ask you, Peyton,
as the non baseball guy, what is your reaction to
seeing this.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I was just looking it up because I wanted to
refine it again as a non baseball guy. Even as
a non baseball guy, it's insane. It's ridiculous. I don't
really understand like when teams do this, Like is it
like you don't have cash? And like, honestly, as a
member of a fan or not a member, as a
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fan of see this fever pitch? You just think you're
part of the team as a fan of the Pittsford Penguins,
who is also owned by the fucking Fenway Arable Sports Group,
which is very shitty, and they have just no they
just have no mission of winning anymore. If they ever did,
it's a joke. And that's what this is. Like they
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clearly didn't want to pay a salary, or they were
done with it, or they thought they're so far from winning.
Like it's different than like when like if a theo
Epstein was making this move, right, you'd be like, I
don't see it, but that guy clearly knows what's going on, right,
you would say that they had no idea what's going on.
(10:48):
And I was looking it up, like to equate this
to NFL terms, the best one I saw this would
be like if this Bengals traded t Higgins to the
Patriots for Kendrick Bourne and a fourth round pick. That's
what that's what this I mean that it's probably not
even fair, it's probably not even T Higgins is probably
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far off from him, but that is basically what you
would be getting back. They got like literally a bag
of coins and like some popcorn, and that was it.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
In a lot of ways. I would equate it to
the DK Metcalf trade. That would just that the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You can say like that too, what's the what what
I mean, Jackson? You have? Jackson said the jigbat. Okay,
all right, good luck.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Now there's so much to unpack with this. The Red
Sox also have a lot of young prospects that they've
all brought up to the majors and you don't have
a spot for him. But that's not the reason you
make this trade. You made this trade because Rafael Devers
didn't want to be a team player. And whether you
think he's right or not, and that's the that's I
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think I'm gonna be the conversation these next couple of months.
Is Dever sat there and said, you're paying me to
be a third baseman. Well, this all starts because they
go out and they sign Alex Bregman and they look
at Devers and say, Devers, you're going to be the
DH every day. Okay, yeah, my just stopped shut off.
But that's okay. So Dever says, all right, fine, I
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don't love it. I'm not happy about it. Whatever. Then
midway through the year, they think about maybe thinking about
moving him to first base. Well, Devers basically no, I'm
not going to be a first baseman. I'm not learning
a new position during the year, whatever you say. And
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then it.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Led to this.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Now, there are some rumblings that after they signed Bragman,
Devers sat there and said, I want to trade. And
I think Boston ever since then, has decided that they
were going to move Rafael Devers and they were waiting
for the right deal. I don't think personally this was
the right deal. If you're gonna move Devers, I don't
think you move him in the middle of the season.
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I think you wait until the offseason and you get
a better hould. But they decided to make the straight
I think this is a great trade for the Giants,
for a Giant team that has been yeah, that has
been trying to land.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
There the Stars.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
They've dabbled a little bit in free agency, never really
been able to hit that guy that they've wanted outside
of Williadomas. Yeah, So to get Devers, get him locked
up long term now in the middle of that lineup
is great. What I also love, just from the sports
talk standpoint, is now Devers is willing to play first base.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
That is also like the pettiness of baseball players is
never you can never underestimate it because it's always there.
Because also it's a crazy move for the Red Sox.
You go, all right, we don't need you to play
one of the hardest positions in baseball anymore. You can
actually just it like it's a easier But then you
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try to imagine like that and they're like, actually, we
do want you to play first race. I'd be like, oh, dude,
I've been living my life over here. I just get
up and hit.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
A ball good four times and then I sit down.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
It's great. You can't get a guy to do that
and then be like, hey, we need you to go
back out there. That's like impossible. But you know, spite that,
you can do that on a new team. But it
still doesn't like make sense, Like I get like, you
have all these prospects, And this is maybe what I
don't understand about baseball, because anytime anybody gets traded, anyone big,
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it always the team always goes, oh, we got all
these prospects. It's always prospects. There's always probably we always
got them, yeah, yeah, we got them, And it's like, yeah,
but how long offered you from like actually winning something
like wouldn't you be better like keeping a guy like
that around and tailoring the team with him than like
getting rid of him? But I don't know baseball. Baseball
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is a wonky one where you know, superstars can go
a lot randomly and random times throughout the year. It
may not make any sense to anybody except the people
that's that are in those clubhouses. But yeah, I don't know.
I love the video of the Boston girl talking to
the dad on Father's Day on the deck. I don't
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know if you saw that. Yeah, they're like, oh god,
yeah all right, And I was like, you might.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Want to check your phone, yeah, like just wait for
that alert to hit.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
To me, what amazes me about this is the the
Red Sox letting ego get in their way. Yeah, I'm sorry.
You keep a guy like Devers as long as you
can until you get.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
The best steal.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And I maybe nobody else was interested because everybody was
kind of scared off by what Devers did with the
Red Sox. I don't know, we won't know that for sure,
but I have a hard time believing that's the best you.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Were gonna get. Yeah, I just have a hard time.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Now again, maybe that is the best you we're gonna
get because you are asking the team to take on
that full contract. I don't know. I don't know when
we went in into negotiations. I don't know what other
teams were interested. I don't even know how much he
was shopped around because this came this was the one
that came out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yes, that would be that would also be like very
curious to know how And honestly, another way, you could
like see this like hard because he's not there. Maybe
he is, man, I don't know, I basil like that,
but like it feels like how the Luca trade came
to be.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
This is exactly like the Luca trade.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It was like it was like out of nowhere, like
this came from nowhere, like no one even knew they
were doing this. Jeff. I don't know if Jeff Passen
like was reporting this anywhere. By the way, if I could,
if you, I didn't even might have done this before.
If I could take him, Jeff Passen, I might be
saying that wrong too. If I could take him and
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make him like an NFL insider guy, I would do it.
I would trade it for about anybody. He's the fucking man.
But I hate that he does just baseball. I'm like, God,
I wish you did other sports. He's funny, he's good
on Twitter. He's you know, he's about his business, but
he's also here for the laughs. And he's also here
you know. The other one about the one about the
guy's wife a couple of weeks ago on Twitter was
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a good one. Uh, he was just joking with him.
But yeah, I would trade I would trade him for
about anybody in the NFL world or college football world
for that matter. So just putting that out there. But
I don't know how much he even knew about it.
Seemed like no one fucking knew, which makes me wonder,
how do you do that? Like again, it goes back
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to the lib like, do they mean the coffee shop?
Do you? Is it Manila envelopes? Like what are we doing?
Brandon Stevens? We got an update. Brandon Stevens is not
gonna make it. Everybody unfortunately, Uh, the government and my
tax dollars are still working hard entirely for whatever he does.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So thank you, I mean, I just yeah, they sorry
that Brandon can't be with us.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
We'll talk more. About this next week.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Carry Miller or Bleacher Report's gonna join us as well
that next week to talk about this trade and more.
I just I'm so amazed that you run an organization
where you let ego get in a way in terms
of than making the best trade for your team. That
that's one that and I get it. If I'm a
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Red Sox fan, I'm not happy.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I'd be live it. I would be great Like you.
I have a problem with teams like this in any sport,
like a blue blood or like a team that's been
you know, like a historic team like that does shit
like this because it doesn't seem like you want to win,
and like you need to be one of those teams.
You're a pillar of the MLB. Like whether you whether
you like the Red Sox or not, that's a fact.
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Like the Boston Red Sox are huge and they need
to be like in contention, but the it's always better
when those teams, those original teams there's blue bloods are
always in it like it. People may not like people
that are the same winners every year, which is like
you know, the winner's fatigue or so everyone hates the Yankees,
but like you want the Yankees there because you want
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to see them fail, right, Like it's the same for
the Red Sox. I'm sure for some people it's just
it's a shame that they're doing this and like they're
I mean, if you're a Red Sox fan, it just
springs up all the You think about all the people
throughout the years. You think about the many Ramirez throughout
the year, you think about Pedro Martinez, you think about
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Mookie Bets not being a Red Sox. I'm thinking, I
can't remember the guy from right before the four season
then he played shortstop. Uh Kevin Maaar famously fucked it
all up and he had no idea he fucked it up.
It was with him and Ar New New New.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
R No Mar Marre.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, there we go. They fucked that up. Like no
matter what era this is, there are guys that have
been superstars in huge parts of the organization and they're
just they just fucking get gone.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
And it's so And it's funny you mentioned it because
if you sit there and you look at the Red
Sox recently, you had Xander Bogarts, you had Mookie Beds,
you had devors All on that World Series team, and
you sat there and you said, Okay, this is a
core that's gonna be there for five to ten years.
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We're seven years later.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Baseball teams of all time, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I mean they had a great pitching staff, they had
a great lineup. And now you're sitting there and you're
going bo arts Is with the Padres, bets Is with
the Dodgers, and now devers Is with the Giants. You
just made the NL West great.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I'm just gonna say, that's what it is. They have
a conference every year with the NL West and go, hey,
how the hell are you? You guys want any of
our players again? Okay, yeah we could, we have some prospects,
We got prospects.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Well we'll we'll build it back in five years and
then you'll get the next crop of whoever we have.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, exactly. That's what I don't get, Like why, I
don't know. Money's weird. Money's sports are weird.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I do have to update, By the way, before we
get off of baseball. I made the comment when we
were talking about the Rockies a couple of weeks ago
that I did not think they could win twenty games
by the All Star break. I'm slowly getting proven wrong.
They have fifteen wins right now.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They do, and it's impressive that they're like, it's impressive
that they might actually do that.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
And also I do that. I don't mean to cut
you off. I wanted to read this quote. This is
talking Baseball, had it. Rocky's interim manager Warren Schaeffer, after
back to back wins, said, end quote, there's a lot
of baseball to be played between now and October. Don't
let us get hot, Minja Colorado is fifteen and fifty seven. Look,
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I love the confidence they're gonna be a bad team.
That and hear that interim manager who knows you're not
getting the job long term. Absolutely, that's the confidence you
gotta have. But yeah, they're gonna I'm gonna probably be
proven wrong here.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I mean, it would be, what's the biggest I would
love to know. I don't have my laptop in front
of me, but what would be what's the biggest comeback
from being I don't even know how I worded this,
from being like below five hundred to making the playoffs?
What's the furthest that anyone's ever done? I don't want
to say.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I think it was. I think it was nine or
ten games. I think it was the Nationals the year
they made the World Series. They were about nine games
on their and they got on a run right at
the beginning of the second half. Okay, but it's it's
hard to do. Like there have been a couple of
teams that have been like five hundred that have gotten
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on runs, but nobody that low has ever gotten on
a run.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I'm gonna look it up as we talk someone.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Poor Brandon, by the way, he has to work on Juneteenth.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you what it's. Uh, it's
one of those ones where like it's a national holiday
now and that's as fucking half the companies don't even
fucking recognize it. And then like they just don't like know, like,
oh wait, how is the government not off?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Wait a minute, that's that's what he's upset about.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And you know what, confused.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
We're here for you, Brandon, We are here for you.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
We actually I'm more confused. You should I think he
should maybe make make bring back the bullet points and
write that and bulletpoint Yeah, like I worked, I worked
on Thursday. Maybe I don't know. I just that sucks.
How is that possible? In the only reason I'll say it.
Maybe Brandon is that important that he can't take a
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diet day off. He literally can't take a day.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Are we now to suspect that Brandon has high security clearance?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And no, I'm gonna say no, just because he just
started at this place, but it would impressive if he did.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I'm going with that until he tells us otherwise.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, that's what I might go with. But I still
think that his boss might just be a dick.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Could Well, that's probably answer, But that's that's not the
fun podcast talk theory. The fun podcast talk theory is
having this happen.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
True. Oh gonna fucking look that up. But pivot to hockey.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yes, this is Game six, the cup is in the house.
So I'm gonna ask you this question because I have
felt this for a couple of days, well ever since
Game five did Edmund did Chris and r block cost
Edmonton the series by going back to Pritchard over Skinner
(25:28):
Because I think the answer is if they lose tonight, yes,
probably because considering how the early games outside of Game
three had gone, they were back and forth, back and forth,
back and forth. Pritchard has a really bad Game three
gets annihilated by Florida. Then you start Skinner Edmonton looks great,
(25:50):
they win the game. Then you go back to Pritchell,
which I don't understand that decision by Chris nar Block.
I just think it's cause you to series. Now you're
going to Florida with a chance to clinch it. I
just I don't It didn't make sense to me in
(26:12):
the in the moment, and it still doesn't now.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
No, it doesn't make sense. And I think this series
has like I think it's played with, like it's gotten
in the heads of everybody, Like I think, like, uh,
what was it? Game hold on? Game four, Like that
was one of the most insane games of a series ever.
(26:37):
They were up three to nothing, the Panthers were beating
the living shit out of the Oilers, and then the
Oilers come back and win, Like what a swing? And
then you just throw out a dud on Saturday? Right,
Like how does that happen? You know what I mean?
Like how do you? I just don't get how that, Like,
I don't get how you can reach such high in
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a game, in a big win game, and then you
lay a dud the next game, Like that's where I
get lost in this series, and it makes me feel
like these managers, like at least the Edmonton like I
feel like he thinks he has a pulse of what
they need to do and things like that. You just
bad read after bad read like that, Like they honestly
got very lucky in the overtime situation or I don't
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know if I want to say lucky, but.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Well, but but like you win game four, Skinner plays well,
don't go back correct, Like, don't go back because you
can't kill any of the momentum. And here's the thing
that I've I've thought watching it Edmonton. This has happened
now two years in a row. Every time they play Florida.
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They think they've got to play Florida at Florida's game,
and Edmonton is not built to play that way. Very
few teams are built to play that physical style that
Florida does.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
They are like running like I don't even know what,
like like a basketball. They're running like a basketball press
like you can't like you're suffocated anytime you have the
fuck there's just like somebody in your face and you're
kind of like it's like that point of like it's
like a it's like a you know what it is.
I have a shout out to Press Virginia Old Bob Huggins.
It's like the like they literally just they're always someone
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in your fucking face, Joe Missoula, Deshaun Butler, Like there's
just always you're like, can you please give me a
fucking step? Like that's what Edmondson's like, can you please
back up for one second. You guys are suffocating us.
And but that's I mean, they do it so well
and like.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
You know well, and it leads to so many great
offensive opportunities because you get because they're they get so
in sync. They force you to turn it over in
your own end and they're autmatically exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
There's a guy breaking up the ice.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, and it's Brad Marsham, old fuck old rat fuck.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Well he's got I mean, just fascinating. Yeah, to see
his career in the last like two three years, because
not only any of us ever expected Boston to trade him.
He was sort of he was the lifer that you
put up there with a with a Vechkin and Crosby.
You said him and Pasternock are never gonna get traded.
(29:19):
Boston trades him, and I get why Boston did it
like they had to do something.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, I mean they were a mess, but like it
was kind of like I think everyone kind of thought
that way about Chara for a while, you know what
I mean. Yeah, and then like he but he kind
of like left, like they just like, we're not gonna
bring you back. He still wanted to play a little bit.
That was maybe different, But yeah, what's wrong with Boston
sports just saying buck our fuck their heroes? Like he uh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I was gonna say, don't don't latch on to anybody
in Boston right now. Maybe the NBA team is the
closest you can hang on to.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Kaylen Brown has definitely gone.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Now that I say that, I was gonna say, just drinks, sorry, we.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Just fucked you guys up. Certainly gone. Imaginated trade Jason
Am that.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Would be, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
He's recovering from the killers, and I'm like, yeah, we're
starting gonna we don't see the future anymore with this,
So we're gonna sing with Jalen Brown. We're gonna make
him the superstar that we wanted you to be. Thanks
for your help. That'd be all time. But yeah, I
don't know. Loyalty is dead for us that that should
be the story, like no loyalty anywhere anymore. I mean
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the bigger thing is is I'll ask you this. I
saw this floating around on the internet today. If Evanson
loses tonight, right as Conor McDavid started to think there
is no way I can ever fucking win here, Like
does that idea creep in his head and he's like,
I need to get the fuck out of here. I
need to turn heel. I need to just find a
(30:54):
way what I don't even know. His contract situation looks
like do I demand one? Do I?
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Like?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
What do I do? And do I leave? Because that's
a fair question.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
And but here's I'll contend this.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I think if we're gonna talk about stars that need
to have that conversation, Austin Matthews is probably closer because
if you look at where they've gotten, Edmonton's gotten to
the cup, Like you sit there if you're Conor McDavid,
and yeah, even if you lose this one, I think
(31:28):
you have to sit there and go we are oh
so close, we are oh so close. I think they
have better goaltending they win this series.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I don't think you're wrong. I think we've been saying
that for like two rounds of this, yeah, and we
can't even believe they made it here.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I think this is a like if I'm McDavid, I'm
sitting there going, I think I gotta go one more
year because I feel like we're just we're nudging to
being over that hume. If you don't talk about Starr
in the NHL, that needs to talk about asking out.
It's awesome Matthews Toronto team. It doesn't matter who the
coach is, it doesn't matter who's around him. They can't
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get over the hump of themselves. They get one when
in around maybe and then the ghosts of Toronto comes
back and gets them.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Okay, I got it. Uh In twenty twenty six, he
is an unrestricted free agent, so that's very dealable. Understand
if you know, I know what you're saying, like if
you wanted it, if he asked for it, I mean,
oh my god, I don't even know what you could
(32:37):
get for it up from You can get whatever you want,
you could ask, and I think people give it up
because I saw the reason I got this started was
like people started putting a picture of like McDavid sitting
next to Crosby on a bench, and I'm like, oh,
that'd be a fucking train that's so unrealistic that will
(32:59):
never happen, know what I mean. So yeah, yeah, I
don't know. I just think like it's it's worthy of
a conversation where you gotta wonder it, like what else
can I do to win? I mean, I don't know
what he could do. He can't do anything else. It's
about the team and if the team isn't ready. But
it's a good point. Austin Matthews also should be definitely
(33:19):
asking it, but he also didn't play great like down
the stretch when they needed him, so he kind of
is like more of a reason where.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
But in the same vein, you can also make the
argument that Connor McDavid hasn't had a great final.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
No compared to like last the last last year's run
and everything, for sure, but he's done. He's played a
different role. It seems like he's stepped into like facilitating
things a little more than like being that goat like
I'm gonna go score where he still has, but you know,
I mean that toe drag. He had Game two, Game one,
(33:59):
whatever it was, and then he.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Like this it was like there was there had been
vintage McDavid moments in this series.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
God, I mean the career highlights.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I think Florida. I don't know about you, but I
think Florida closes out tonight. I don't. I don't see
this going another game. I just can't. I think it's over.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I think they can. I think Edmonton killed themselves in
Game five. I think you took the wind out of
your sales had you won an Edmonton. I think they
have a great chance at winning one of the two games,
but now you gotta win, and you gotta win in Florida,
and I don't I don't see them being able to
do it. No, unless Stuid. The only way I see
(34:42):
it going back to Edmonton is Stuart Skinner has a
game of.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
His life stand on his head.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Because the reality is we know, Sir Gaborowsky, when it's
crunch time does that.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, I mean, I just I mean, I just feel
like these guys are already they're very prepared for this game.
And again, like I said, I don't know how Florida
could lose this. I just can't see it.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I would be amazed, honestly if Florida somehow lost this
game because it doesn't. It feels like and maybe that's
how they're going to lose it is because everything is
lined up in their favor.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
When at home all that. But that's why I feel
like if they lose this and then they go to
a game seven, I feel like it'll be the worst game.
I think, like Florida will win the game seven by
like three goals, and we'll be like, fuck, why can
you guys have just done that the game before and
just end to this like I don't win your home Yeah,
Like I don't want a bad game seven, you know
what I mean. I don't want to go to I
(35:44):
don't want to go to Alberta any bad game seven.
That'll piss everybody off at Edmond ten.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
But we'll see, Well, considering how really could if you
compare it to the NBA Finals, which we'll talk about
here at the moment, what's there his talks about, Well, yeah,
I mean it's pretty like it's oh but we we
like we'd all talked about like it got to that
point where it was like, Okay, Oklahoma City is the
(36:13):
better team.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
None of us have thought otherwise.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I think on that it was just a matter of
could okay, see get their heads out of the butts
and beat Indiana? And now you throw in the Haliburton
calf injury.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I just Indiana did not.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Have enough do not have enough depth to be able
to go toe for toe with Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Did you think he tore his achilles when it happened?
Because what I thought it immediately? I was like, oh
shit again and I was like, what the fuck is
wrong with people's achilles? These cities?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Man? Is it fair to have the conversation though about
the NBA? Are you now truly playing too many games?
Do you think if if you're in, if you're Halliburton,
who played the majority of the regular season, you played
almost ninety to one hundred games, Oh for sure.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Absolutely. So you could also be like you could also
make the point of like I don't know when the
CBA next CBA is for the NBA, but that would
be a big conversation I would imagine for a lot
of teams. I think. But this is where the part is,
like how are we going to make up that money?
(37:32):
Like do we say, is the ESPN deal still the same? Is?
Like you know all these all these streamings and all
that like is basically like I think the NBA would
do it. They'll just be like, is our money ain't
fucked up? Right, Like we're still good on the money side, right, Like,
as long as that's good, we're good with this. But
you know, ESPN's gonna be like twenty last games, I
(37:52):
ain't paying you.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Can we also have And I think this might be
a good thing to end this podling. ESPN needs to
get off its high horse, I think a little bit.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
And here's why. Off of what off their high horse.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
ESPN is not the world leader anymore, and you need
to stop acting like you are the best thing that's
happened to sports media. And I'll be honest, Their NBA
coverage just horrendous. I like, not even I'm not even
a big NBA guy. I don't like watching it. I
don't like watching your college basketball coverage.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Dude. It's amazing how they do college game day. If
you told people that they do college game day for basketball,
I think a lot of people would be like really, like,
no one would even know they do that, Like no
one knows that they're doing like Reech Davis and them
or doing you know, from Durham or whatever with Jay
Williams and all of them or whatever, like no one
(38:53):
would know, would you think. I think that would be
a fair take. No, it is unaware.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
But their NBA coverage is so lazy. Yes, I mean,
and they want to They want to figure out why
everybody's so upset that inside the NBA is gone. And
I know we had this debate a couple of weeks ago,
and Brandon argues that there isn't a lot of great
analysis on it. But that's why inside the NBA is
so good because they give you analysis. It's not just
(39:24):
let me have the quickest hot take off the first hat.
Tell me why something's working, tell me why something isn't working.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I think they're there.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Their NBA coverage is horrendous. I hate their hockey coverage.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I don't mind PK Suban, but but.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
I likes more than Sue Ban and San dominates airtime.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, that's true, because no one gives a ship about
Mark Messy unless you actually.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Like they're in there.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Their in game stuff like TNT blows them out out
of water. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean that dnt's got it down at
I mean, they got it all they you know, you
can say what you want, Like obviously I do agree
with Brandon's saying, like like the takes and stuff and
like the analysis may not be there, but like that's
not what everyone wants anymore. Sometimes, like people want you
to fucking joke about these guys that are very serious
(40:21):
about what they're doing, and like they want to laugh
and they want to hear it from people who are
in these locker rooms and you know, played basketball their
whole lives and have been around the game forever and
they have the extra opinion. But sometimes people take it
too serious. And I think that's where the inside the
NBA like does well, where it's like they do talk
about certain things and they do a good job. I
(40:43):
think of like going around like you know, they talk
about analysis, what you should do, blah blah blah, but
they get to the funny part and they talk about
it bluntly, like Charles Barker is like he needs to
make fucking treat us. It's it's like sometimes it doesn't
need to be an over equated analysis like what's happening,
It just needs to be like like I can't tell
(41:05):
you exactly what's going wrong with the Steelers gate. That
guy didn't fucking block and that guy didn't catch it.
There is nothing else to like dive in there. Arthur
Smith calls shitty plays like I could go, it's not
over complicated like people Sometimes people just want it to
be over complicated to sound more like more intelligent on
the topic or whatever it is. But sonarimes, it's just
(41:28):
fucking cutting dry. Like the fucking thunder are very good
at basketball, and we could argue about SGA being a
foul merchant or not. They still get buckets and they
make they score points and they beat teams by a
lot of points.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
So yeah, it's just I mean, I'm glad you said
that because that's literally how I have felt. The other
thing that I look at when I watch like ESPN
coverage of things, is it just all of it feels
so lazy to me.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yes, that, like it's.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
There's nothing about it that makes you sit there and
say they put effort into this.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
No, agreed, And like, I think, like the next I've
said this for a while, the next version of what
broadcasting will be like people like watching other random YouTube
people really like reacting to the games more than watching ESPN. Now,
I think that's fair to say like people would rather
(42:33):
watch a streamer give their stupid analysis about the game
or their take or their reaction unfiltered because they obviously
are on TV. And I get like, you can't really
do that like on ESPN, like you can't cuss and
stuff like that. But people want that realism. They want
your raw reaction to what's happening. They don't want the
(42:54):
fluffed up teleprompter version. And honestly, like another part of
it is like I don't know how would have played out,
but JJ Reddick was so good. I thought how he
started going on first, like you know, he pushed back
when people would just say some lazy, generalized take. He'd
be like no, he and they'd be like what, and
then he would push back because he has a very
(43:15):
thought out analysis what's happening. I think you need more
people like that. But he obviously got poached to go
coach the Lakers. And I'm not like saying JJ Reddick
was the best at of all time or anything like that,
but I think they getting more guys like that that
played that could give you a little pushback against these
hundits that have gone unchecked, Like you know who I
(43:35):
hate the most mad Dog I despise when that guy talks.
I would rather have Max Kellerman or someone else talk genuinely,
because it's just so like ridiculous, Like it's like such
an arc. Hey, that's like you literally took a radio
guy and put him on TV and his ideas were
so archaic as radio and it doesn't make sense like ESPN.
(43:59):
I don't know if you saw this. The other day,
they had JJ Spahn's winning putt of the US Open
number two on the top ten. How was that number two?
What could have been? It was a fucking diving baseball catch,
a regular season baseball catch. This guy made a fifty
double angelated Greens breaking left and then right to win
(44:22):
the US Open. And in this guy's story is more
incredible than whatever that is. And you gave him number
two on the top ten, the top ten. He used
to be fucking sacred. I used to watch that shit.
I had it timed up, Dave in the summers. I
had it timed up. I knew exactly what time I
could wake up by and catch the top ten and
then see all the Sports Center and it was great.
(44:42):
And now it's fucking it's just duh.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Well, I'm gonna like, I'm sitting here as with talking
and I'm trying to rack my brain of everything ESPN
has that they broadcast.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
And I'm like, what exactly do they do well?
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Like if I go down the list and I go
base base baseball, Fox does it better, TBS does it better,
no question, no question.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Move on.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Football, NFL. They've gotten good, but a lot of that
I give to Joe Buck and Troy Aikman.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
That really saved them.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
It's all then, yeah, they saved because that was a
horrendous package to watch games before Joe Buck and Troy Aikman.
College football they're pretty good.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
But but.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
I'll contend that Fox has gotten is getting close.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I don't like big new kickoff. I like, I like,
I like the guys, I like Liner and them, but
like college game Day has like that historic tradition behind it,
like and the guys involved in I think McAfee gets ridiculous. He's,
you know, he's the wild card and all that, and
he's always standing up on the fucking table. So that's
(45:57):
gotten Like I would like that to kind of slow down,
like that to stop.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
But well they're they're trying so hard to make him
the next league Corso and is supposed to just saying, hey,
guess what you're not You're not gonna You're not gonna
do what Lee did.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
If I'll tell you what, if I see anybody start
doing head gear after him, I'm out. I'll be out
so fast. That would be terrible because the head gear
is his thing. Like, don't don't have McAfee do head
gear or anything like that. Like just let that. Let
that have been his thing. Yeah, don't try to like
(46:36):
reinvent don't try to reinvent that. Like let that. Let
that die with die with him August thirtieth in Columbus.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
And when when it comes to college basketball, it's no contest.
I mean CBS just yeah, is the standard bearer. So
then then you're really like, man, there just isn't a
lot of great game coverage that they do. And I
it's not surprising baseball I think completely mishandled that contract
and how they played it out.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
But you can see why some of the smaller sports.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Like baseball, like hockey and some of the others feel
a little slighted by ESPN because if you're not the
NFL and you're not the NBA, you don't get coverage
and you don't get quality when they do your games.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Oh no, there it's bare bones. It sometimes feels like
especially on like a Tuesday and March, like people are like, ah,
we gotta do this tonight. Fuck shit, Okay, well yeah,
we'll get it all set up like probably like it's
it's just we like without without SVP, Sports Center would
(47:47):
be a joke without without purb Street and Reech Davis,
game Day as a joke. I mean, there's just like
there's only a few guys that really keeping it together.
Stephen A. Smith, I now what your opinion is on him,
like he is one of the questions of ESPN.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Now I'm freely gonnamd. I'm out on stephen A.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
I just like.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
I think you started well, then your ego gotten away,
and when your ego gotten away, there was no getting
it back because now you think you are ESPN And
the reality is, and you've heard it from guys that
have all left before, you can never be bigger than
the four letters.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
But the problem is ESPN has led him.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah, that is true. I would
say I would say he is though, like because they
have allowed that, like they let him do it.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Does I mean, does anything, But in fairness, like to me,
if you're Stephen A, you can't act like you're the reason.
ESPN like to me, you don't have your job if
it isn't around the horn and PTI like to me,
PTI is the reason that Stephen A exists and not
(49:05):
saying that it's a bad thing because part of the
interruption did it the right way and has done it
and continues to do it the right way when you
have sports talk. But yeah, those a show like what
Stephen A did back in the day Cold Pizza where
he got his start on air, doesn't happen if it
isn't because of a part of the interruption or an
(49:27):
around the horn. And the difference was really, honestly, you
can say around the horn is more closely to what
led to this era of sports talk with the shouting
and the hot takes. But a lot of that came
because you were having writers. You weren't having personalities. You
(49:48):
were now the Woody Pages and the Tim Kalla Shaws
and those guys became personalities, but they were columnists.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
They were writers.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
So that that's where I haven't I have an issue
with Stephen As you've now gotten to the point where
you are. And look, I take nothing away from him.
Good for him, absolutely, good for him. Make your career.
I don't discredit in any way what he's built up.
I'm just saying, you can't think you're bigger than the network. Yeah,
(50:20):
and it's gonna work. It's not going to You're gonna
kill the network. And that's where ESPN is heading because
he's on so many things.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah, I just think, like I'll tell you what, the
day Pete the I gets canceled, that's the day the
music fucking died.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Well, that's when ESPN needs to just I think.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
I think when Stewart Scott passed away and was gone,
I think that's the real you can really pinpoint it
to like a moment where this shit kind of started
to go south. I'm not saying hand in hand like
him not being like obviously him passing away like was
the reason these things started to happen, but like I
(50:57):
noticed a big shift when that happened. Like I used
to love watching the SPS. I don't know about you,
Like they used to be fucking dude, when Timberlake and
Drake and all these other guys used to host it
it was fucking hysterical. The skits they would do, it
was great. But now it's like, wait, I couldn't even
(51:20):
tell you when when that's on. I don't even know.
I don't even know who goes the fucking said anymore.
Pick talkers like that's like, God, I feel like we're
such fucking boomers. Now we lost our ESPN.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Man, which it's not an ESPN we recognize.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
I will say, I'm a big rich eysing guy. I
don't know if I've ever said this too, a big
rich eysing guy. He's going back to ESPN, which is crazy.
The thing about it. Yeah, well, and then like that's
also not he hasn't even talked about it yet on
a show.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
The other thing that gets me And no, not again,
no knock on McAfee. He to me, I'm a little
hot and cold on him. There are some things I
like McAfee does, there are some things I don't like McAfee's.
In other word, it's like, dude, you aren't all that
high and mighty here, buddy, don't. Let's let's not start
(52:11):
acting like you are ESPN, because you are are You
are not ESPN. But to get upset that they're bringing
rich Eisen in, like.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
He took a little subtle jab at the fact that
because Eisen's radio show is on at the same time
as McAfee's.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Oh twelve to three, Yeah, yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Now McAfee is still on linear and Rich eisen show
is only going to be on ESPN plus. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
So I I don't get it. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
I think that's what's turned me off a little bit
to ESPN is it's those two that are just so big,
so prominent making all the noise that it's like really
like just yeah, two guys, I'm very hot and cold on.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, I do. I agree with that. I go hot
and Florida on McAfee because I like some of the
shit he does. But like I'll say this, like I
used to watch McAfee, Like I used to listen to
his pod, like when it was just a podcast. Is
that like you remember that, Like when he first started
out and I liked it. He had guests on, he
was new, he was navigating it, so it was like
(53:24):
like he was kind of like fucking up every now
and again, and it was kind of like all right,
like you're figuring it out, we're here along for the ride,
and then it became you know, when it became more
it became when they became Yeah, it became too much
of like a show. Like everyone wants to create in
that industry and they're lying if they say it. They
(53:46):
want to create what Dan Patrick did. Yeah, Like rich
Eisen prominently proudly says, I wanted to do what Dan
Patrick fucking did and that's what he did.
Speaker 4 (53:58):
Like the setup of how his studio is, whereas buddies
are sitting around the tables, it's the same way, his
his way of like I don't know if he credits
him or what he does, but like.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
It's weird that you would do and take the idea. No,
I don't want to even say take the idea, but
get the get the inspiration of your show and the
layout of it all, and like not give credit and
then take jabs at other people that do what you do,
even though you came after rich Eyes And it's weird.
It's just a weird, like weird thing to like try
(54:34):
to do. And I get like you try to protect
your money. You want to protect you know, you want
all the fucking money, Like briche eizing company sounds like, oh,
next time we negotiate this, steal less money because now
we're splitting this kind of thing. Like I'm not the
premium guy anymore because I stream some of this on YouTube.
But you know that's the deal he did, and uh,
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who knows. I mean, I don't know what, I don't
know what will happen, but yeah, he does do that
a lot. He does these little digs of like I'm
the top dog around here at ESPN now, like him
and Steven A got in that little spat. I guess
they're still on a spat. I don't know if that
ever got like resolved, did it No?
Speaker 1 (55:13):
But that's where it's like, I'm glad you said because like, okay,
sports Radio, the hallmark is Dan Patrick, like the way
that show is done, the way the interviews are done,
Like yeah, is there an ego? Yeah, damn it is
Dan fucking Patrick.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
But Dan Patrick's been in twenty two Adam Sandler movies.
How many have you been?
Speaker 1 (55:35):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (55:36):
But like the that's sick.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
But also like when you listen to his shows, Yeah,
he has takes and he has opinions.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
He's not just saying.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Stuff to get clicks or get buzz. Yeah, these are
well thought out points, and there's so much with McAfee
that just never feels thought out when he does it.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
Did you ever watch Uh East Found It Down Kenny
Powers like Danny mcbrice. Yeah, do you remember the final
season where he joined like that sports talk show? Mm hmm,
it's literally like that's what it's funny because I would
love to know what year that was, But that's funny
because that's what ESPN has become, just like Zinger after Zinger,
(56:17):
kind of like hot take after hot take, like shit
like that, and like it was like a joke for
them in the show, like this is toxic. This is
not like actually informative. We're not actually giving good takes.
Like it's just about getting the guy next to you
and making him look at a fucking asshole or stupid
(56:37):
and that's the goal. And then you write, well, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
We'll wrap it up here because we've kind of labored
a little bit through this. My thing with McAfee is
he's not a great interview Like if you listen to
him do interviews, it's not great.
Speaker 3 (56:54):
He's not very good.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
I think it's better and I'll say this about anybody.
I'll give him a little little bit of grace any interview,
and we know this, any interview over zoom or anything
like that, the quality of the interview will go down.
And that is a lot of what he does. Like
he bring like they're like, well that now, welcoming on
and then it's like someone on a zoom, right. He
doesn't really have a lot of people in person.
Speaker 3 (57:18):
Well, but Dan Patrick does mostly zoom.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Too, yeah, I think, but like he's always kind of
done that where like, but he does do a good
mix of both. I feel like Dan Patrick does get
people to do both where and rich Eisen does the same,
Like he tries to get people except for like the
NFL experts who can't you know, like Pom Pelisara can't
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fucking fly there or al er Bier can't fly there
every fucking day to do the Rich Eisen show, Like
that's hard to do, but they try to do it.
Where McAfee's kind of like more or less settled for that.
I feel like or that he's just decided that's how
he wants to do it.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Oh, maybe that's how he's wanted to do it.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
It's just just to me, not.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
Him himself doing interviews is just not good, all right.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
I think we've labored enough on that.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
Yeah, let's say, if we ever get big, we're definitely
not getting a call from Bobby or in Disney. And yeah,
I was gonna say, I think we pitched them off enough.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
If we ever catch their radar, well, oh well that
is gonna do it for us.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
On this edition of the Opening Kickoff Podcast, Peyton will
not be with us next week. He is moving. He'll
join us after the big move and tell us how
all of that went. Yeah, Carry Miller Bleacher Report will
join us. We'll continue to try to make sense of
that weird Raphael Dever's trade, and a whole heck of
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Kickoff Podcast. Rolling into the dog days this summer, but
the sports news has been lively. It has been a
fun weekend of sports talk and we're going to continue
that here today. I'm your host Dave Smil, joined as
always by my great co host Peyton Girod. Peyton, you're
(01:37):
looking a little rough there with the house right now
because you're getting ready to make the move and you're
not with us next week. So give me the feel
and the thought right now as you're getting ready to move.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I have at the moment no idea how me and
sav we're gonna unpack this truck by ourselves. So I
think the journey out there, I will be looking up
movers in Lubbock. So if you happen to be a
mover in Lubbick, listen to this, let me fucking know
what's good because I'm gonna need that help. But no,
(02:13):
big truck did like a pod you pack thing. So
they pulled out with the truck this morning. Build that
bitch up, and yeah, it was on its way. So
we're going to Pro Football Hall of Fame on Friday.
Gonna do that and check it out on my way
out of the East Coast and then you know it's
it's Mojo football, baby, it's West Texas. This is it
(02:35):
is Friday night lights and ready to roll, and you
know we're gearing up big shift, so we'll see, but
uh yeah, looking forward to it. I will update you
on the drive. I will update you guys on how
terrible it's going or how good it's going, because I
will have a dog with me for the entirety of
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the twenty two hours, so we'll see how many stops
that goes. All probably pissed more than the dog that
and the dog will be like, you're you're a disgrace.
But uh yeah, it's going well, it's going well.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I love that for your pinton, I really do.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Are you doing we? I mean, no one ever asked
you how you're doing, Dave. It's a fair man. It's
a thankless job you have being the host.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It very much is a thankless job. But you know what,
somebody's got to do it. So yeah, we're gonna We're
gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Are you in summer mode yet or I.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Am picked up some summer work, you know, because like
I did the whole like not working last summer. M hm,
but that rock though, it rocked, But I like I
got to a point where I was like, all right, well,
money wise, probably not the smartest to do that again,
So that's probably smart.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, that's probably true.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Then I was also like, you know what, like I
just kind of like if I'm busy, the days go
by faster. Like That's the one thing that I realized
is like the days just kind of dragged. Yeah, And
so I'm like, I'm kind of okay if we are
like things are moving all around. Apologize I'm reading something
(04:22):
at the moment.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
By the way, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Why is it like all inclusives are just so expensive
it's not even fun.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Nah, I'm telling you you gotta find a good deal.
I can help you find a good deal. Where are
you looking?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Well, we we want to go away Christmas, uh, like
weekend of Christmas in the New Year's somewhere warm because
we have we have literally like a two week off
Christmas break from the school system. But uh yeah, it's
it's very expensive. If you have never tried to try
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that time of year.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Where are you uh? Where are you looking?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Jamaica is the first guess, because we've never been. I
neither one of us have ever been outside the country.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So okay. So also wordvice, get your passport, just do
it now because that ship takes forever.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, it's on the to do list, and you.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Say that I'm around you, and then we're gonna be
in December and you're gonna be like, fuck, I never
did that ship. And I'm like, Dave, I told you
Tony back in June, you gotta get that thing done.
Look at uh, look at the Dominican Republic, dude. I've
been there twice. It's been for weddings, so probably a
little different pricing because like probably a discount somehow some way.
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But we went for like four or five days either,
at which time definitely go five days at least, and
it's fucking awesome. And it wasn't that bad. It was
not that bad. I think the biggest part is you
got to find the flight and the other shit, Like
you gotta find like there's times in the week that
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are like good deals and stuff, and then like but
you know.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
As expensive as like a Jamaica All inclusive is do
you want to know how like Key West to get
to key West, Florida is just ridiculously expensive.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, exactly. The one thing I'll say is like, if
you're I wouldn't go. I've been. I've been to a
couple of inclusives. I've been to three different now I
wouldn't go back to Mexico. It was okay, but like
it was just kind of like the food was like, nah,
(06:43):
it was surprisingly meh, but like the drinking was fucking
it was a great time. I mean that was It
was probably the best all inclusive drinking spot I've ever done,
But the d r I Rock Cafe would be my best.
Fat There's so much to do there, and like it's
just a massive place. I think that's where you should
try to figure out find the time that I don't know,
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they're running a deal or someone's running a deal. I
think that's what you do. Hold on, wait, we got
to rewind here, Dave and his lady is that I'm
assuming your lady. Yeah, damn doing a little trip. Look
at that.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We've we've done it. We've done a few, we've done
a future.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Go to Ocean City doesn't count.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
We went to Sarasota like for spring training.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Okay, yeah, that's right. You did say that. That's all
you did. You did the Jimmy fallon, you did the
fuck what a fever pitch? Yes, you did the thing
where you're she thought you were on the team and
but you just you just go to spring train and
just see that's what she probably thought. She'd like, Okay, uh.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, she had to lower her standards. Is what is
what you're getting at? It's okay, that's what happens.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I mean, I love that fucking movie. I think it's
the funniest. Like she thought he was on the team
when he was explaining it, and that's probably what every
girl thinks when they're like, oh, like, so you're you
get to like make opinions on the teams like, well,
uh not really, but we have them. We have very
strong opinions on them. Wow, look at Dave. Dave you know,
(08:17):
will you, young man, I'll tell you what a gentleman
a scholar. This is not.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
This is not where I expected this to go to
start to. This is. Yeah, this is a great pod.
We are going to talk some sports here in a
little bit. The big baseball trade. This is This is
I think the first time in a while I can
think that there's been this big of a trade to
happen this early in the season in baseball that has
(08:47):
dominated the headlines.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
And the airwaves like it has.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
We're gonna get into that here, and really, if you
haven't heard or don't know what we're talking about. Raphael
Dever is the third basement for the Boston Red Sox,
who signed a massive eleven year contract extension with Boston
in twenty twenty three, was traded to the San Francisco
Giants in a package that's sent back two current major
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league pitchers and Jordan Hicks and Kyle Harrison, and two prospects,
one of them the fourth overall prospect in the Giant
organization who they drafted last year out of college. Plus
the Giants are eating the rest of the contract that
Boston gave Devers. So before we get into a lot
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of the nitty gritty about this, because there's a lot
to unpack with this trade, I'm gonna ask you, Peyton,
as the non baseball guy, what is your reaction to
seeing this.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I was just looking it up because I wanted to
refine it again as a non baseball guy. Even as
a non baseball guy, it's insane. It's ridiculous. I don't
really understand like when teams do this, Like is it
like you don't have cash? And like, honestly, as a
member of a fan or not a member, as a
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fan of see this fever pitch? You just think you're
part of the team as a fan of the Pittsford Penguins,
who is also owned by the fucking Fenway Arable Sports Group,
which is very shitty, and they have just no they
just have no mission of winning anymore. If they ever did,
it's a joke. And that's what this is. Like they
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clearly didn't want to pay a salary, or they were
done with it, or they thought they're so far from winning.
Like it's different than like when like if a theo
Epstein was making this move, right, you'd be like, I
don't see it, but that guy clearly knows what's going on, right,
you would say that they had no idea what's going on.
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And I was looking it up, like to equate this
to NFL terms, the best one I saw this would
be like if this Bengals traded t Higgins to the
Patriots for Kendrick Bourne and a fourth round pick. That's
what that's what this I mean that it's probably not
even fair, it's probably not even T Higgins is probably
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far off from him, but that is basically what you
would be getting back. They got like literally a bag
of coins and like some popcorn, and that was it.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
In a lot of ways. I would equate it to
the DK Metcalf trade. That would just that the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You can say like that too, what's the what what
I mean, Jackson? You have? Jackson said the jigbat. Okay,
all right, good luck.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Now there's so much to unpack with this. The Red
Sox also have a lot of young prospects that they've
all brought up to the majors and you don't have
a spot for him. But that's not the reason you
make this trade. You made this trade because Rafael Devers
didn't want to be a team player. And whether you
think he's right or not, and that's the that's I
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think I'm gonna be the conversation these next couple of months.
Is Dever sat there and said, you're paying me to
be a third baseman. Well, this all starts because they
go out and they sign Alex Bregman and they look
at Devers and say, Devers, you're going to be the
DH every day. Okay, yeah, my just stopped shut off.
But that's okay. So Dever says, all right, fine, I
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don't love it. I'm not happy about it. Whatever. Then
midway through the year, they think about maybe thinking about
moving him to first base. Well, Devers basically no, I'm
not going to be a first baseman. I'm not learning
a new position during the year, whatever you say. And
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then it.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Led to this.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Now, there are some rumblings that after they signed Bragman,
Devers sat there and said, I want to trade. And
I think Boston ever since then, has decided that they
were going to move Rafael Devers and they were waiting
for the right deal. I don't think personally this was
the right deal. If you're gonna move Devers, I don't
think you move him in the middle of the season.
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I think you wait until the offseason and you get
a better hould. But they decided to make the straight
I think this is a great trade for the Giants,
for a Giant team that has been yeah, that has
been trying to land.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
There the Stars.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
They've dabbled a little bit in free agency, never really
been able to hit that guy that they've wanted outside
of Williadomas. Yeah, So to get Devers, get him locked
up long term now in the middle of that lineup
is great. What I also love, just from the sports
talk standpoint, is now Devers is willing to play first base.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
That is also like the pettiness of baseball players is
never you can never underestimate it because it's always there.
Because also it's a crazy move for the Red Sox.
You go, all right, we don't need you to play
one of the hardest positions in baseball anymore. You can
actually just it like it's a easier But then you
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try to imagine like that and they're like, actually, we
do want you to play first race. I'd be like, oh, dude,
I've been living my life over here. I just get
up and hit.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
A ball good four times and then I sit down.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
It's great. You can't get a guy to do that
and then be like, hey, we need you to go
back out there. That's like impossible. But you know, spite that,
you can do that on a new team. But it
still doesn't like make sense, Like I get like, you
have all these prospects, And this is maybe what I
don't understand about baseball, because anytime anybody gets traded, anyone big,
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it always the team always goes, oh, we got all
these prospects. It's always prospects. There's always probably we always
got them, yeah, yeah, we got them, And it's like, yeah,
but how long offered you from like actually winning something
like wouldn't you be better like keeping a guy like
that around and tailoring the team with him than like
getting rid of him? But I don't know baseball. Baseball
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is a wonky one where you know, superstars can go
a lot randomly and random times throughout the year. It
may not make any sense to anybody except the people
that's that are in those clubhouses. But yeah, I don't know.
I love the video of the Boston girl talking to
the dad on Father's Day on the deck. I don't
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know if you saw that. Yeah, they're like, oh god,
yeah all right, And I was like, you might.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Want to check your phone, yeah, like just wait for
that alert to hit.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
To me, what amazes me about this is the the
Red Sox letting ego get in their way. Yeah, I'm sorry.
You keep a guy like Devers as long as you
can until you get.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
The best steal.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And I maybe nobody else was interested because everybody was
kind of scared off by what Devers did with the
Red Sox. I don't know, we won't know that for sure,
but I have a hard time believing that's the best you.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Were gonna get. Yeah, I just have a hard time.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Now again, maybe that is the best you we're gonna
get because you are asking the team to take on
that full contract. I don't know. I don't know when
we went in into negotiations. I don't know what other
teams were interested. I don't even know how much he
was shopped around because this came this was the one
that came out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yes, that would be that would also be like very
curious to know how And honestly, another way, you could
like see this like hard because he's not there. Maybe
he is, man, I don't know, I basil like that,
but like it feels like how the Luca trade came
to be.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
This is exactly like the Luca trade.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It was like it was like out of nowhere, like
this came from nowhere, like no one even knew they
were doing this. Jeff. I don't know if Jeff Passen
like was reporting this anywhere. By the way, if I could,
if you, I didn't even might have done this before.
If I could take him, Jeff Passen, I might be
saying that wrong too. If I could take him and
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make him like an NFL insider guy, I would do it.
I would trade it for about anybody. He's the fucking man.
But I hate that he does just baseball. I'm like, God,
I wish you did other sports. He's funny, he's good
on Twitter. He's you know, he's about his business, but
he's also here for the laughs. And he's also here
you know. The other one about the one about the
guy's wife a couple of weeks ago on Twitter was
(17:22):
a good one. Uh, he was just joking with him.
But yeah, I would trade I would trade him for
about anybody in the NFL world or college football world
for that matter. So just putting that out there. But
I don't know how much he even knew about it.
Seemed like no one fucking knew, which makes me wonder,
how do you do that? Like again, it goes back
(17:43):
to the lib like, do they mean the coffee shop?
Do you? Is it Manila envelopes? Like what are we doing?
Brandon Stevens? We got an update. Brandon Stevens is not
gonna make it. Everybody unfortunately, Uh, the government and my
tax dollars are still working hard entirely for whatever he does.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So thank you, I mean, I just yeah, they sorry
that Brandon can't be with us.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
We'll talk more. About this next week.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Carry Miller or Bleacher Report's gonna join us as well
that next week to talk about this trade and more.
I just I'm so amazed that you run an organization
where you let ego get in a way in terms
of than making the best trade for your team. That
that's one that and I get it. If I'm a
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Red Sox fan, I'm not happy.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I'd be live it. I would be great Like you.
I have a problem with teams like this in any sport,
like a blue blood or like a team that's been
you know, like a historic team like that does shit
like this because it doesn't seem like you want to win,
and like you need to be one of those teams.
You're a pillar of the MLB. Like whether you whether
you like the Red Sox or not, that's a fact.
(19:00):
Like the Boston Red Sox are huge and they need
to be like in contention, but the it's always better
when those teams, those original teams there's blue bloods are
always in it like it. People may not like people
that are the same winners every year, which is like
you know, the winner's fatigue or so everyone hates the Yankees,
but like you want the Yankees there because you want
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to see them fail, right, Like it's the same for
the Red Sox. I'm sure for some people it's just
it's a shame that they're doing this and like they're
I mean, if you're a Red Sox fan, it just
springs up all the You think about all the people
throughout the years. You think about the many Ramirez throughout
the year, you think about Pedro Martinez, you think about
(19:43):
Mookie Bets not being a Red Sox. I'm thinking, I
can't remember the guy from right before the four season
then he played shortstop. Uh Kevin Maaar famously fucked it
all up and he had no idea he fucked it up.
It was with him and Ar New New New.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
R No Mar Marre.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, there we go. They fucked that up. Like no
matter what era this is, there are guys that have
been superstars in huge parts of the organization and they're
just they just fucking get gone.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
And it's so And it's funny you mentioned it because
if you sit there and you look at the Red
Sox recently, you had Xander Bogarts, you had Mookie Beds,
you had devors All on that World Series team, and
you sat there and you said, Okay, this is a
core that's gonna be there for five to ten years.
(20:40):
We're seven years later.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Baseball teams of all time, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I mean they had a great pitching staff, they had
a great lineup. And now you're sitting there and you're
going bo arts Is with the Padres, bets Is with
the Dodgers, and now devers Is with the Giants. You
just made the NL West great.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I'm just gonna say, that's what it is. They have
a conference every year with the NL West and go, hey,
how the hell are you? You guys want any of
our players again? Okay, yeah we could, we have some prospects,
We got prospects.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Well we'll we'll build it back in five years and
then you'll get the next crop of whoever we have.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, exactly. That's what I don't get, Like why, I
don't know. Money's weird. Money's sports are weird.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I do have to update, By the way, before we
get off of baseball. I made the comment when we
were talking about the Rockies a couple of weeks ago
that I did not think they could win twenty games
by the All Star break. I'm slowly getting proven wrong.
They have fifteen wins right now.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They do, and it's impressive that they're like, it's impressive
that they might actually do that.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
And also I do that. I don't mean to cut
you off. I wanted to read this quote. This is
talking Baseball, had it. Rocky's interim manager Warren Schaeffer, after
back to back wins, said, end quote, there's a lot
of baseball to be played between now and October. Don't
let us get hot, Minja Colorado is fifteen and fifty seven. Look,
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I love the confidence they're gonna be a bad team.
That and hear that interim manager who knows you're not
getting the job long term. Absolutely, that's the confidence you
gotta have. But yeah, they're gonna I'm gonna probably be
proven wrong here.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I mean, it would be, what's the biggest I would
love to know. I don't have my laptop in front
of me, but what would be what's the biggest comeback
from being I don't even know how I worded this,
from being like below five hundred to making the playoffs?
What's the furthest that anyone's ever done? I don't want
to say.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I think it was. I think it was nine or
ten games. I think it was the Nationals the year
they made the World Series. They were about nine games
on their and they got on a run right at
the beginning of the second half. Okay, but it's it's
hard to do. Like there have been a couple of
teams that have been like five hundred that have gotten
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on runs, but nobody that low has ever gotten on
a run.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I'm gonna look it up as we talk someone.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Poor Brandon, by the way, he has to work on Juneteenth.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you what it's. Uh, it's
one of those ones where like it's a national holiday
now and that's as fucking half the companies don't even
fucking recognize it. And then like they just don't like know, like,
oh wait, how is the government not off?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Wait a minute, that's that's what he's upset about.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And you know what, confused.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
We're here for you, Brandon, We are here for you.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
We actually I'm more confused. You should I think he
should maybe make make bring back the bullet points and
write that and bulletpoint Yeah, like I worked, I worked
on Thursday. Maybe I don't know. I just that sucks.
How is that possible? In the only reason I'll say it.
Maybe Brandon is that important that he can't take a
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diet day off. He literally can't take a day.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Are we now to suspect that Brandon has high security clearance?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And no, I'm gonna say no, just because he just
started at this place, but it would impressive if he did.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I'm going with that until he tells us otherwise.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, that's what I might go with. But I still
think that his boss might just be a dick.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Could Well, that's probably answer, But that's that's not the
fun podcast talk theory. The fun podcast talk theory is
having this happen.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
True. Oh gonna fucking look that up. But pivot to hockey.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yes, this is Game six, the cup is in the house.
So I'm gonna ask you this question because I have
felt this for a couple of days, well ever since
Game five did Edmund did Chris and r block cost
Edmonton the series by going back to Pritchard over Skinner
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Because I think the answer is if they lose tonight, yes,
probably because considering how the early games outside of Game
three had gone, they were back and forth, back and forth,
back and forth. Pritchard has a really bad Game three
gets annihilated by Florida. Then you start Skinner Edmonton looks great,
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they win the game. Then you go back to Pritchell,
which I don't understand that decision by Chris nar Block.
I just think it's cause you to series. Now you're
going to Florida with a chance to clinch it. I
just I don't It didn't make sense to me in
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the in the moment, and it still doesn't now.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
No, it doesn't make sense. And I think this series
has like I think it's played with, like it's gotten
in the heads of everybody, Like I think, like, uh,
what was it? Game hold on? Game four, Like that
was one of the most insane games of a series ever.
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They were up three to nothing, the Panthers were beating
the living shit out of the Oilers, and then the
Oilers come back and win, Like what a swing? And
then you just throw out a dud on Saturday? Right,
Like how does that happen? You know what I mean?
Like how do you? I just don't get how that, Like,
I don't get how you can reach such high in
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a game, in a big win game, and then you
lay a dud the next game, Like that's where I
get lost in this series, and it makes me feel
like these managers, like at least the Edmonton like I
feel like he thinks he has a pulse of what
they need to do and things like that. You just
bad read after bad read like that, Like they honestly
got very lucky in the overtime situation or I don't
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know if I want to say lucky, but.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Well, but but like you win game four, Skinner plays well,
don't go back correct, Like, don't go back because you
can't kill any of the momentum. And here's the thing
that I've I've thought watching it Edmonton. This has happened
now two years in a row. Every time they play Florida.
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They think they've got to play Florida at Florida's game,
and Edmonton is not built to play that way. Very
few teams are built to play that physical style that
Florida does.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
They are like running like I don't even know what,
like like a basketball. They're running like a basketball press
like you can't like you're suffocated anytime you have the
fuck there's just like somebody in your face and you're
kind of like it's like that point of like it's
like a it's like a you know what it is.
I have a shout out to Press Virginia Old Bob Huggins.
It's like the like they literally just they're always someone
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in your fucking face, Joe Missoula, Deshaun Butler, Like there's
just always you're like, can you please give me a
fucking step? Like that's what Edmondson's like, can you please
back up for one second. You guys are suffocating us.
And but that's I mean, they do it so well
and like.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
You know well, and it leads to so many great
offensive opportunities because you get because they're they get so
in sync. They force you to turn it over in
your own end and they're autmatically exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
There's a guy breaking up the ice.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, and it's Brad Marsham, old fuck old rat fuck.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Well he's got I mean, just fascinating. Yeah, to see
his career in the last like two three years, because
not only any of us ever expected Boston to trade him.
He was sort of he was the lifer that you
put up there with a with a Vechkin and Crosby.
You said him and Pasternock are never gonna get traded.
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Boston trades him, and I get why Boston did it
like they had to do something.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, I mean they were a mess, but like it
was kind of like I think everyone kind of thought
that way about Chara for a while, you know what
I mean. Yeah, and then like he but he kind
of like left, like they just like, we're not gonna
bring you back. He still wanted to play a little bit.
That was maybe different, But yeah, what's wrong with Boston
sports just saying buck our fuck their heroes? Like he uh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I was gonna say, don't don't latch on to anybody
in Boston right now. Maybe the NBA team is the
closest you can hang on to.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Kaylen Brown has definitely gone.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Now that I say that, I was gonna say, just drinks, sorry, we.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Just fucked you guys up. Certainly gone. Imaginated trade Jason
Am that.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Would be, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
He's recovering from the killers, and I'm like, yeah, we're
starting gonna we don't see the future anymore with this,
So we're gonna sing with Jalen Brown. We're gonna make
him the superstar that we wanted you to be. Thanks
for your help. That'd be all time. But yeah, I
don't know. Loyalty is dead for us that that should
be the story, like no loyalty anywhere anymore. I mean
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the bigger thing is is I'll ask you this. I
saw this floating around on the internet today. If Evanson
loses tonight, right as Conor McDavid started to think there
is no way I can ever fucking win here, Like
does that idea creep in his head and he's like,
I need to get the fuck out of here. I
need to turn heel. I need to just find a
(30:54):
way what I don't even know. His contract situation looks
like do I demand one? Do I?
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Like?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
What do I do? And do I leave? Because that's
a fair question.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
And but here's I'll contend this.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I think if we're gonna talk about stars that need
to have that conversation, Austin Matthews is probably closer because
if you look at where they've gotten, Edmonton's gotten to
the cup, Like you sit there if you're Conor McDavid,
and yeah, even if you lose this one, I think
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you have to sit there and go we are oh
so close, we are oh so close. I think they
have better goaltending they win this series.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I don't think you're wrong. I think we've been saying
that for like two rounds of this, yeah, and we
can't even believe they made it here.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I think this is a like if I'm McDavid, I'm
sitting there going, I think I gotta go one more
year because I feel like we're just we're nudging to
being over that hume. If you don't talk about Starr
in the NHL, that needs to talk about asking out.
It's awesome Matthews Toronto team. It doesn't matter who the
coach is, it doesn't matter who's around him. They can't
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get over the hump of themselves. They get one when
in around maybe and then the ghosts of Toronto comes
back and gets them.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Okay, I got it. Uh In twenty twenty six, he
is an unrestricted free agent, so that's very dealable. Understand
if you know, I know what you're saying, like if
you wanted it, if he asked for it, I mean,
oh my god, I don't even know what you could
(32:37):
get for it up from You can get whatever you want,
you could ask, and I think people give it up
because I saw the reason I got this started was
like people started putting a picture of like McDavid sitting
next to Crosby on a bench, and I'm like, oh,
that'd be a fucking train that's so unrealistic that will
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never happen, know what I mean. So yeah, yeah, I
don't know. I just think like it's it's worthy of
a conversation where you gotta wonder it, like what else
can I do to win? I mean, I don't know
what he could do. He can't do anything else. It's
about the team and if the team isn't ready. But
it's a good point. Austin Matthews also should be definitely
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asking it, but he also didn't play great like down
the stretch when they needed him, so he kind of
is like more of a reason where.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
But in the same vein, you can also make the
argument that Connor McDavid hasn't had a great final.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
No compared to like last the last last year's run
and everything, for sure, but he's done. He's played a
different role. It seems like he's stepped into like facilitating
things a little more than like being that goat like
I'm gonna go score where he still has, but you know,
I mean that toe drag. He had Game two, Game one,
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whatever it was, and then he.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Like this it was like there was there had been
vintage McDavid moments in this series.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
God, I mean the career highlights.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I think Florida. I don't know about you, but I
think Florida closes out tonight. I don't. I don't see
this going another game. I just can't. I think it's over.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I think they can. I think Edmonton killed themselves in
Game five. I think you took the wind out of
your sales had you won an Edmonton. I think they
have a great chance at winning one of the two games,
but now you gotta win, and you gotta win in Florida,
and I don't I don't see them being able to
do it. No, unless Stuid. The only way I see
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it going back to Edmonton is Stuart Skinner has a
game of.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
His life stand on his head.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Because the reality is we know, Sir Gaborowsky, when it's
crunch time does that.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, I mean, I just I mean, I just feel
like these guys are already they're very prepared for this game.
And again, like I said, I don't know how Florida
could lose this. I just can't see it.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I would be amazed, honestly if Florida somehow lost this
game because it doesn't. It feels like and maybe that's
how they're going to lose it is because everything is
lined up in their favor.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
When at home all that. But that's why I feel
like if they lose this and then they go to
a game seven, I feel like it'll be the worst game.
I think, like Florida will win the game seven by
like three goals, and we'll be like, fuck, why can
you guys have just done that the game before and
just end to this like I don't win your home Yeah,
Like I don't want a bad game seven, you know
what I mean. I don't want to go to I
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don't want to go to Alberta any bad game seven.
That'll piss everybody off at Edmond ten.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
But we'll see, Well, considering how really could if you
compare it to the NBA Finals, which we'll talk about
here at the moment, what's there his talks about, Well, yeah,
I mean it's pretty like it's oh but we we
like we'd all talked about like it got to that
point where it was like, Okay, Oklahoma City is the
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better team.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
None of us have thought otherwise.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I think on that it was just a matter of
could okay, see get their heads out of the butts
and beat Indiana? And now you throw in the Haliburton
calf injury.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I just Indiana did not.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Have enough do not have enough depth to be able
to go toe for toe with Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Did you think he tore his achilles when it happened?
Because what I thought it immediately? I was like, oh
shit again and I was like, what the fuck is
wrong with people's achilles? These cities?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Man? Is it fair to have the conversation though about
the NBA? Are you now truly playing too many games?
Do you think if if you're in, if you're Halliburton,
who played the majority of the regular season, you played
almost ninety to one hundred games, Oh for sure.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Absolutely. So you could also be like you could also
make the point of like I don't know when the
CBA next CBA is for the NBA, but that would
be a big conversation I would imagine for a lot
of teams. I think. But this is where the part is,
like how are we going to make up that money?
(37:32):
Like do we say, is the ESPN deal still the same? Is?
Like you know all these all these streamings and all
that like is basically like I think the NBA would
do it. They'll just be like, is our money ain't
fucked up? Right, Like we're still good on the money side, right, Like,
as long as that's good, we're good with this. But
you know, ESPN's gonna be like twenty last games, I
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ain't paying you.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Can we also have And I think this might be
a good thing to end this podling. ESPN needs to
get off its high horse, I think a little bit.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
And here's why. Off of what off their high horse.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
ESPN is not the world leader anymore, and you need
to stop acting like you are the best thing that's
happened to sports media. And I'll be honest, Their NBA
coverage just horrendous. I like, not even I'm not even
a big NBA guy. I don't like watching it. I
don't like watching your college basketball coverage.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Dude. It's amazing how they do college game day. If
you told people that they do college game day for basketball,
I think a lot of people would be like really, like,
no one would even know they do that, Like no
one knows that they're doing like Reech Davis and them
or doing you know, from Durham or whatever with Jay
Williams and all of them or whatever, like no one
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would know, would you think. I think that would be
a fair take. No, it is unaware.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
But their NBA coverage is so lazy. Yes, I mean,
and they want to They want to figure out why
everybody's so upset that inside the NBA is gone. And
I know we had this debate a couple of weeks ago,
and Brandon argues that there isn't a lot of great
analysis on it. But that's why inside the NBA is
so good because they give you analysis. It's not just
(39:24):
let me have the quickest hot take off the first hat.
Tell me why something's working, tell me why something isn't working.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I think they're there.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Their NBA coverage is horrendous. I hate their hockey coverage.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I don't mind PK Suban, but but.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
I likes more than Sue Ban and San dominates airtime.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, that's true, because no one gives a ship about
Mark Messy unless you actually.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Like they're in there.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Their in game stuff like TNT blows them out out
of water. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean that dnt's got it down at
I mean, they got it all they you know, you
can say what you want, Like obviously I do agree
with Brandon's saying, like like the takes and stuff and
like the analysis may not be there, but like that's
not what everyone wants anymore. Sometimes, like people want you
to fucking joke about these guys that are very serious
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about what they're doing, and like they want to laugh
and they want to hear it from people who are
in these locker rooms and you know, played basketball their
whole lives and have been around the game forever and
they have the extra opinion. But sometimes people take it
too serious. And I think that's where the inside the
NBA like does well, where it's like they do talk
about certain things and they do a good job. I
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think of like going around like you know, they talk
about analysis, what you should do, blah blah blah, but
they get to the funny part and they talk about
it bluntly, like Charles Barker is like he needs to
make fucking treat us. It's it's like sometimes it doesn't
need to be an over equated analysis like what's happening,
It just needs to be like like I can't tell
(41:05):
you exactly what's going wrong with the Steelers gate. That
guy didn't fucking block and that guy didn't catch it.
There is nothing else to like dive in there. Arthur
Smith calls shitty plays like I could go, it's not
over complicated like people Sometimes people just want it to
be over complicated to sound more like more intelligent on
the topic or whatever it is. But sonarimes, it's just
(41:28):
fucking cutting dry. Like the fucking thunder are very good
at basketball, and we could argue about SGA being a
foul merchant or not. They still get buckets and they
make they score points and they beat teams by a
lot of points.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
So yeah, it's just I mean, I'm glad you said
that because that's literally how I have felt. The other
thing that I look at when I watch like ESPN
coverage of things, is it just all of it feels
so lazy to me.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yes, that, like it's.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
There's nothing about it that makes you sit there and
say they put effort into this.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
No, agreed, And like, I think, like the next I've
said this for a while, the next version of what
broadcasting will be like people like watching other random YouTube
people really like reacting to the games more than watching ESPN. Now,
I think that's fair to say like people would rather
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watch a streamer give their stupid analysis about the game
or their take or their reaction unfiltered because they obviously
are on TV. And I get like, you can't really
do that like on ESPN, like you can't cuss and
stuff like that. But people want that realism. They want
your raw reaction to what's happening. They don't want the
(42:54):
fluffed up teleprompter version. And honestly, like another part of
it is like I don't know how would have played out,
but JJ Reddick was so good. I thought how he
started going on first, like you know, he pushed back
when people would just say some lazy, generalized take. He'd
be like no, he and they'd be like what, and
then he would push back because he has a very
(43:15):
thought out analysis what's happening. I think you need more
people like that. But he obviously got poached to go
coach the Lakers. And I'm not like saying JJ Reddick
was the best at of all time or anything like that,
but I think they getting more guys like that that
played that could give you a little pushback against these
hundits that have gone unchecked, Like you know who I
(43:35):
hate the most mad Dog I despise when that guy talks.
I would rather have Max Kellerman or someone else talk genuinely,
because it's just so like ridiculous, Like it's like such
an arc. Hey, that's like you literally took a radio
guy and put him on TV and his ideas were
so archaic as radio and it doesn't make sense like ESPN.
(43:59):
I don't know if you saw this. The other day,
they had JJ Spahn's winning putt of the US Open
number two on the top ten. How was that number two?
What could have been? It was a fucking diving baseball catch,
a regular season baseball catch. This guy made a fifty
double angelated Greens breaking left and then right to win
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the US Open. And in this guy's story is more
incredible than whatever that is. And you gave him number
two on the top ten, the top ten. He used
to be fucking sacred. I used to watch that shit.
I had it timed up, Dave in the summers. I
had it timed up. I knew exactly what time I
could wake up by and catch the top ten and
then see all the Sports Center and it was great.
(44:42):
And now it's fucking it's just duh.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Well, I'm gonna like, I'm sitting here as with talking
and I'm trying to rack my brain of everything ESPN
has that they broadcast.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
And I'm like, what exactly do they do well?
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Like if I go down the list and I go
base base baseball, Fox does it better, TBS does it better,
no question, no question.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Move on.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Football, NFL. They've gotten good, but a lot of that
I give to Joe Buck and Troy Aikman.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
That really saved them.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
It's all then, yeah, they saved because that was a
horrendous package to watch games before Joe Buck and Troy Aikman.
College football they're pretty good.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
But but.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
I'll contend that Fox has gotten is getting close.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I don't like big new kickoff. I like, I like,
I like the guys, I like Liner and them, but
like college game Day has like that historic tradition behind it,
like and the guys involved in I think McAfee gets ridiculous. He's,
you know, he's the wild card and all that, and
he's always standing up on the fucking table. So that's
(45:57):
gotten Like I would like that to kind of slow down,
like that to stop.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
But well they're they're trying so hard to make him
the next league Corso and is supposed to just saying, hey,
guess what you're not You're not gonna You're not gonna
do what Lee did.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
If I'll tell you what, if I see anybody start
doing head gear after him, I'm out. I'll be out
so fast. That would be terrible because the head gear
is his thing. Like, don't don't have McAfee do head
gear or anything like that. Like just let that. Let
that have been his thing. Yeah, don't try to like
(46:36):
reinvent don't try to reinvent that. Like let that. Let
that die with die with him August thirtieth in Columbus.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
And when when it comes to college basketball, it's no contest.
I mean CBS just yeah, is the standard bearer. So
then then you're really like, man, there just isn't a
lot of great game coverage that they do. And I
it's not surprising baseball I think completely mishandled that contract
and how they played it out.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
But you can see why some of the smaller sports.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Like baseball, like hockey and some of the others feel
a little slighted by ESPN because if you're not the
NFL and you're not the NBA, you don't get coverage
and you don't get quality when they do your games.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Oh no, there it's bare bones. It sometimes feels like
especially on like a Tuesday and March, like people are like, ah,
we gotta do this tonight. Fuck shit, Okay, well yeah,
we'll get it all set up like probably like it's
it's just we like without without SVP, Sports Center would
(47:47):
be a joke without without purb Street and Reech Davis,
game Day as a joke. I mean, there's just like
there's only a few guys that really keeping it together.
Stephen A. Smith, I now what your opinion is on him,
like he is one of the questions of ESPN.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Now I'm freely gonnamd. I'm out on stephen A.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
I just like.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
I think you started well, then your ego gotten away,
and when your ego gotten away, there was no getting
it back because now you think you are ESPN And
the reality is, and you've heard it from guys that
have all left before, you can never be bigger than
the four letters.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
But the problem is ESPN has led him.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah, that is true. I would
say I would say he is though, like because they
have allowed that, like they let him do it.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Does I mean, does anything, But in fairness, like to me,
if you're Stephen A, you can't act like you're the reason.
ESPN like to me, you don't have your job if
it isn't around the horn and PTI like to me,
PTI is the reason that Stephen A exists and not
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saying that it's a bad thing because part of the
interruption did it the right way and has done it
and continues to do it the right way when you
have sports talk. But yeah, those a show like what
Stephen A did back in the day Cold Pizza where
he got his start on air, doesn't happen if it
isn't because of a part of the interruption or an
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around the horn. And the difference was really, honestly, you
can say around the horn is more closely to what
led to this era of sports talk with the shouting
and the hot takes. But a lot of that came
because you were having writers. You weren't having personalities. You
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were now the Woody Pages and the Tim Kalla Shaws
and those guys became personalities, but they were columnists.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
They were writers.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
So that that's where I haven't I have an issue
with Stephen As you've now gotten to the point where
you are. And look, I take nothing away from him.
Good for him, absolutely, good for him. Make your career.
I don't discredit in any way what he's built up.
I'm just saying, you can't think you're bigger than the network. Yeah,
(50:20):
and it's gonna work. It's not going to You're gonna
kill the network. And that's where ESPN is heading because
he's on so many things.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah, I just think, like I'll tell you what, the
day Pete the I gets canceled, that's the day the
music fucking died.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Well, that's when ESPN needs to just I think.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
I think when Stewart Scott passed away and was gone,
I think that's the real you can really pinpoint it
to like a moment where this shit kind of started
to go south. I'm not saying hand in hand like
him not being like obviously him passing away like was
the reason these things started to happen, but like I
(50:57):
noticed a big shift when that happened. Like I used
to love watching the SPS. I don't know about you,
Like they used to be fucking dude, when Timberlake and
Drake and all these other guys used to host it
it was fucking hysterical. The skits they would do, it
was great. But now it's like, wait, I couldn't even
(51:20):
tell you when when that's on. I don't even know.
I don't even know who goes the fucking said anymore.
Pick talkers like that's like, God, I feel like we're
such fucking boomers. Now we lost our ESPN.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Man, which it's not an ESPN we recognize.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
I will say, I'm a big rich eysing guy. I
don't know if I've ever said this too, a big
rich eysing guy. He's going back to ESPN, which is crazy.
The thing about it. Yeah, well, and then like that's
also not he hasn't even talked about it yet on
a show.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
The other thing that gets me And no, not again,
no knock on McAfee. He to me, I'm a little
hot and cold on him. There are some things I
like McAfee does, there are some things I don't like McAfee's.
In other word, it's like, dude, you aren't all that
high and mighty here, buddy, don't. Let's let's not start
(52:11):
acting like you are ESPN, because you are are You
are not ESPN. But to get upset that they're bringing
rich Eisen in, like.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
He took a little subtle jab at the fact that
because Eisen's radio show is on at the same time
as McAfee's.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Oh twelve to three, Yeah, yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Now McAfee is still on linear and Rich eisen show
is only going to be on ESPN plus. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
So I I don't get it. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
I think that's what's turned me off a little bit
to ESPN is it's those two that are just so big,
so prominent making all the noise that it's like really
like just yeah, two guys, I'm very hot and cold on.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, I do. I agree with that. I go hot
and Florida on McAfee because I like some of the
shit he does. But like I'll say this, like I
used to watch McAfee, Like I used to listen to
his pod, like when it was just a podcast. Is
that like you remember that, Like when he first started
out and I liked it. He had guests on, he
was new, he was navigating it, so it was like
(53:24):
like he was kind of like fucking up every now
and again, and it was kind of like all right,
like you're figuring it out, we're here along for the ride,
and then it became you know, when it became more
it became when they became Yeah, it became too much
of like a show. Like everyone wants to create in
that industry and they're lying if they say it. They
(53:46):
want to create what Dan Patrick did. Yeah, Like rich
Eisen prominently proudly says, I wanted to do what Dan
Patrick fucking did and that's what he did.
Speaker 4 (53:58):
Like the setup of how his studio is, whereas buddies
are sitting around the tables, it's the same way, his
his way of like I don't know if he credits
him or what he does, but like.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
It's weird that you would do and take the idea. No,
I don't want to even say take the idea, but
get the get the inspiration of your show and the
layout of it all, and like not give credit and
then take jabs at other people that do what you do,
even though you came after rich Eyes And it's weird.
It's just a weird, like weird thing to like try
(54:34):
to do. And I get like you try to protect
your money. You want to protect you know, you want
all the fucking money, Like briche eizing company sounds like, oh,
next time we negotiate this, steal less money because now
we're splitting this kind of thing. Like I'm not the
premium guy anymore because I stream some of this on YouTube.
But you know that's the deal he did, and uh,
(54:55):
who knows. I mean, I don't know what, I don't
know what will happen, but yeah, he does do that
a lot. He does these little digs of like I'm
the top dog around here at ESPN now, like him
and Steven A got in that little spat. I guess
they're still on a spat. I don't know if that
ever got like resolved, did it No?
Speaker 1 (55:13):
But that's where it's like, I'm glad you said because like, okay,
sports Radio, the hallmark is Dan Patrick, like the way
that show is done, the way the interviews are done,
Like yeah, is there an ego? Yeah, damn it is
Dan fucking Patrick.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
But Dan Patrick's been in twenty two Adam Sandler movies.
How many have you been?
Speaker 1 (55:35):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (55:36):
But like the that's sick.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
But also like when you listen to his shows, Yeah,
he has takes and he has opinions.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
He's not just saying.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Stuff to get clicks or get buzz. Yeah, these are
well thought out points, and there's so much with McAfee
that just never feels thought out when he does it.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
Did you ever watch Uh East Found It Down Kenny
Powers like Danny mcbrice. Yeah, do you remember the final
season where he joined like that sports talk show? Mm hmm,
it's literally like that's what it's funny because I would
love to know what year that was, But that's funny
because that's what ESPN has become, just like Zinger after Zinger,
(56:17):
kind of like hot take after hot take, like shit
like that, and like it was like a joke for
them in the show, like this is toxic. This is
not like actually informative. We're not actually giving good takes.
Like it's just about getting the guy next to you
and making him look at a fucking asshole or stupid
(56:37):
and that's the goal. And then you write, well, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
We'll wrap it up here because we've kind of labored
a little bit through this. My thing with McAfee is
he's not a great interview Like if you listen to
him do interviews, it's not great.
Speaker 3 (56:54):
He's not very good.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
I think it's better and I'll say this about anybody.
I'll give him a little little bit of grace any interview,
and we know this, any interview over zoom or anything
like that, the quality of the interview will go down.
And that is a lot of what he does. Like
he bring like they're like, well that now, welcoming on
and then it's like someone on a zoom, right. He
doesn't really have a lot of people in person.
Speaker 3 (57:18):
Well, but Dan Patrick does mostly zoom.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Too, yeah, I think, but like he's always kind of
done that where like, but he does do a good
mix of both. I feel like Dan Patrick does get
people to do both where and rich Eisen does the same,
Like he tries to get people except for like the
NFL experts who can't you know, like Pom Pelisara can't
(57:41):
fucking fly there or al er Bier can't fly there
every fucking day to do the Rich Eisen show, Like
that's hard to do, but they try to do it.
Where McAfee's kind of like more or less settled for that.
I feel like or that he's just decided that's how
he wants to do it.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Oh, maybe that's how he's wanted to do it.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
It's just just to me, not.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
Him himself doing interviews is just not good, all right.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
I think we've labored enough on that.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
Yeah, let's say, if we ever get big, we're definitely
not getting a call from Bobby or in Disney. And yeah,
I was gonna say, I think we pitched them off enough.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
If we ever catch their radar, well, oh well that
is gonna do it for us.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
On this edition of the Opening Kickoff Podcast, Peyton will
not be with us next week. He is moving. He'll
join us after the big move and tell us how
all of that went. Yeah, Carry Miller Bleacher Report will
join us. We'll continue to try to make sense of
that weird Raphael Dever's trade, and a whole heck of
(58:48):
a lot more so for Peyton Gerd. I am Dave
stein Winel. This has been the Opening kick af Podcast
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