Opening Kickoff 9-10-25 Jay Busbee on CFB and NFL Week 1 Takeaways

On this podcast: Dave Steinwedel, Payton Girod, David Miles, and Kevin Pearce are back as the guys talk all things football including:


Yahoo Sports Writer Jay Busbee joins the guys to discuss the state of Alabama football, how bad this could get for Florida, Florida State might be legit, Arch Manning questions, who is top dog in the Big 12 and so much more. (1:41-23:34)

The guys discuss the Ravens-Bills classic, Lions issues, what happened with Jalen Carter, who had a bad week 1, MNF and more. (23:35-END)

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(01:15):
the Opening Kickoff Podcast. Oh it is great, we got
a great show in store. College football is warn in
a week three, We've got NFL week one reactions all
over this place. I'm your hose save son. Little David
Miles will be with us as soon as he is
free from dinner. I got my guy Peyton Gerard here
with me. Peyton is riding high as a Steeler fan.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Wes Virgin is terrible, but we're just gonna ignore that.
I mean, it was a bad week. It was like
so bad, but Sunday was great. You know, a lot
of highs and lows this weekend, so it came out
on top.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
God, we got our guy Kevin Pierce, who is uh
Kip is going to be joining us back here as
a show host full time, I think when he's available,
Ain't that right?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Kp Yes, sir, I'm be here pretty much full time
all season long. Hi, y'all doing feathers.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
We are great to have you, but glad to see you.
But we have to quickly segue off that because we
have a great guest with us, uh the second time
on the program, So pretty cool for us. Senior writer
at Yahoo's Sports, he is a TV host. He's also
the author of the brand new book Iron in the Blood,

(02:31):
which is the story of the Iron Bowl rivalry in
the Southern culture. That created it and grew from it,
which is available wherever you get your books. That would
be author J Busby is back. Jay. It is great
to have you back on. Thank you for taking some
time with us. How's the book doing? Ah?

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Good good? I mean so far.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
I somehow I managed to get a book about Alabama
and Auburn to the Wall Street Journal. So that was
a that was a shock to me as much as anyone.
So these people like it. That was a straight just thing.
They didn't they didn't say what these these crazy southern
lunatics are doing down there. They liked it for what
it was. But yeah, it seems to be going over well.
I've got I've got Sonny. The real test is gonna come.

(03:11):
I want to go to Auburn and Tuscaloose later this year.
I've got signings in both places, and so we'll see
if they're ready to greet me or run me out
of town on a rail.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I was I was gonna say, who do you think
is gonna be the more open arming fan base? I
guess out of the two.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah, I mean it's a great question.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Here's what I think is, you know, Alabama, There's been
a ton more books written about Alabama than Auburn. And
I think that that Alabama's kind of like, all right,
we gotta yes, you're telling us how great we are,
thank you.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
That's wonderful.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
But Auburn, Auburt's kind of gotten the short end of
the stick, particularly lately. And so I think that that
Auburn fans seem to be really grateful that I that
I told as as close as I could get to
an unbiased account. It gave them all of their proper
respect for all their strength and the rivalry. So so
Auburn seems to be liking me at the moment, which
is good news. You know, you don't want either of
these fan bases not but but you know, so far,

(04:01):
so good.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I was just about to say, you're a pretty complimentary
of both sides throughout the book. I don't expect anyone
coming with pitchforks to your book signings.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Yeah, I mean, you know, the things that they've done wrong, Uh,
they kind of know that they've done wrong.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
And fact that that they you know.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
That you can't really hide certain elements like you know,
the tumors oaks or like the you know, the Tallenge
scandals or things like that. You can't really like that
that didn't happen, because he did, you know, and we
all we all saw a lot of it. But what
is going to be interesting is how these next few
uh years ago, actually these next few weeks ago uh
for Alabama in particular, and and we'll see, we'll see

(04:37):
how resilient the fan base is. Then if things don't
don't go quite the way that they want them to.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, mind, if I go through the front door, then
since you just gave me a perfect.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
If you don't know, I'm gonna go right after you.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
All right, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Let's do over under three and a half weeks. How
long klen the boor got? How long you got?

Speaker 4 (04:59):
I'm gonna go the over. I mean, I think that
I think that's he's got. He's got this year.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
I think that he will he I mean, barring an
absolute catastrophe, you know, bearing in mind that they played
the the you know what, I'm not gonna say the
Little Sisters of Four. That's not fair to Louisiana Monroe.
But they did lay seventy three points on them without
letting one point in, and there was there was intensity
all through the game. I think that they that the
Alabama players, the Alabama coaches, the entire staff and team

(05:26):
saw what everyone was saying about them, and they took
it the right way, which is, you guys didn't show
enough effort. You need to let a fire under your
ass or you're gonna be out the door one way
or the other. And they and they took the challenge up.
So uh, you know, that was good to see. But
obviously they're playing Wisconsin this weekend. They're a big favorite
against them, but it's going to be It's not until
they played Georgia in a couple of weeks that were
really going to start to get the measure of this

(05:47):
team and whether they are.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
You know, which way they lean.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Do they lean more towards a talented team or do
they lean more to an underachieving team. That's that's a
little bit out of control, and that's what's going to
decide to bores future.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, I was just gonna say, I mean, going back
obviously the week before with Florida State, I think a
lot of people are hanging up on the fact that
Alabama looked bad. They did look bad, they looked laxa
day's gold effort. I mean on defense, they were just
it looked like they were like missing tackles on purpose.
At one point, I was like, they can't even wrap
a guy up. I know people were I saw somebody

(06:22):
say it was raining. That was a ridiculous thing to say.
But I think a lot of people and I don't
know what your thoughts are on this. Florida State opened
a new stadium. They're looking to make a message, send
a message. What do you look at Florida State and
where they are this season? Are they really a contender?
Are we going to look back at this, you know,
twelve fourteen weeks from nine and be like, oh, well
they're both going to make the playoffs?

Speaker 5 (06:42):
You know, maybe, Yeah, that's a really good point. Yeah,
I mean that's I've heard. I've heard it said.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
This is not my metaphor, but I've heard that this.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
This loss, the lost of Florida State for Alabama might
look a whole lot better with a telescope than a microscope,
you know, looking back in November saying okay, all right,
looks like Florida State was a little better. They had
that one operation. I mean, they were they were top
ten last year. They go plumbing out of it. So
badly that it was just like one of those like
one of those days if you have at work where
you're like, you know what, I'm not getting anything done today.
I'm gonna I'm gonna hang it up. I'm gonna just

(07:14):
I'm gonna pretend like I'm working all day. I'm not
gonna do a damn thing. They just did that for
the whole season, and uh and they're and they're back
to being strong now. So that's that that could very
well be the case. Again, we don't really have a
gauge on Florida State because they also beat the pants
off of a team that they were expected to win.
So so you know that we we won't know for
a while, but I think that there is the strength

(07:35):
of Florida State, and playing in a you know, refurbished
Joe Campbell very much could uh could play into the
perception of Alabama down the line. It looked really bad
in the moment, might look a little better in November December.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
The other team in Florida I want to talk about
is the Gators because look, the brutal gauntlet of a
schedule upcoming. You drop a game to USF which I'm
maybe a little bit of the mindset that I think
USF is better than we expected them to be. I
think now we can talk about them maybe as a
group of five team for the playoff. But when you

(08:13):
look at Florida, Jay, how bad could this be for
Billy Napier right now?

Speaker 5 (08:20):
I mean, it could not be any worse. You're absolutely right.
This is a game that they had to win. I
mean you a good USF should still lose to a
good Florida team, to a reasonable Florida team, to a
team that with the Florida team that was ranked. This
should not have happened. This could not have happened as
the worst thing possible. Billiy Napier is now twenty and
twenty in his Florida career. That's not what you want

(08:42):
to have, you know, on your resume there when you're
fighting for your job.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
He basically had.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
To had to dig his way out of a hole
last year, only to be set up again this year
with a horrible schedule, with.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
A difficult schedule.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
If he had gone and just dropped a couple of
those to LSU, to Miami, to Georgia, whoever it might be,
you know, we might have been able to survive another year.
But now he's just he absolutely got his legs cut
out from under him, just buy by a whole cascade
of events, and he has no room, no margin for
error right now. And it is incredibly messed up the

(09:15):
way that we think about these things now in terms
of buyouts. But his buyout at the end of the
season will be just under twenty million. That's a whole
lot less than Kaylen Debore's seventy million.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
So you know, it's the.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Kind of thing where Florida alumni might be, you know,
they might have to dip a little deeper into their
pockets over Christmas. The kids, the Gator kids might not
get as many presents in order to get rid of
the fisher.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I mean, they could always bring the checkout, you know,
at halftime and say, look at this donation we got.

Speaker 6 (09:43):
And help me read then got twenty million. That's weird,
that's a weird number.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
We yeah, wow, how about how did that happen? That's
very strange.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
And then you know, and then just right about just
pay to the order of Billy Napier and just get out,
you know, just just right out the door.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
They just give them a happy Gilmore Stream and you
can take that, mister More all the way home.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Yeah, exactly, just bum rushing right out of the swamp there.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
I mean, it's it's it's a tough situation to be in.
I don't envy Billion eight Pier. I don't ever feel
sorry for a major college coach, but I don't envy
the situation that he's in, because, man, it is as
tough as schedule as anyone has.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
To face this year.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
And he dropped one of the games that he was
supposed to just use as a tune up rather than
as a than as a roadblock.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
So can we give the fans a little bit of
context as to what a tough remaining schedule for Florida
actually is, because I'm looking at these next four right now,
and Sweet Merciful Christ, we got in the Star against
LSU on the road against Miami. They got Texas at home.
But there at number seven, Big Wood, maybe they're praying

(10:50):
to God arches all hype by the time they played
Texas and then number sixteen Texas A and m that's
their next four, and then two weeks later they got Georgia.
I may have asked the three and a half over
under question about the wrong coach.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
I mean I want to put this three and a
half quarters too. They got I'm looking at it right now.
They got Mississippi State, they got old miss lurking demo line,
they got Tennessee, and they got and then stated, I mean,
you know when when when you're you're easy. This is
why we say that that that was an easy one.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
Let go by you.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
When you're easy run in the stretches. Is an SEC
team like Mississippi State or Kentucky, Yeah, I mean they're
just they're likely to get pummeled. I mean they have
they have a great tradition in the swamp with Tom
Petty's I won't back down. But you know, Tom Petty
didn't say I won't get run over. So it's gonna
be as a terrible joke.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
No, it's good. It plays, it plays.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
It's also true.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, Jay, you mentioned we mentioned Texas. I want to
ask about Arch Manning because we were all in love
with Arch when he came into the season. Two days Okay,
all right, you listen to national media. We were all
ready to make Arts Manning number one pick in twenty
twenty six week go two weeks in the reviews aren't great.

(12:10):
What do you make of what you've seen?

Speaker 4 (12:14):
You know, What's what I'm gonna take half step back
to get to that question.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
And what is fascinating is to me is the way
that the media hype and I hate kind of wrapping
all the media into one because we are not all
the media. You know, we all have various different points
of view, we all have different angles, but by the
same token you can see kind of consensuses take hold.
And one of them was that, oh, because he's a
man in because he's got that Manning blood and those

(12:39):
four Super Bowls running in his veins, then you know
he's automatically going to be good. And I mean that's
you know, that's that's not always the case, that's not
always necessarily the way that it goes. But but also
by the same token people the media right now in
terms of and you guys, I'm sure have seen this yourself,
the media right now, it's it's like a chicken in
the egg thing, where who is who's really driving the ship?

(13:01):
Is it is it the people that are putting the
stories out there, or is it the people that are
reading the stories? And there's this huge hunger from people
who want to read about arch Manning and about whether
he's good or not. I want to weigh in on
whether he's good or not. Like, you know, for example,
if you guys were to do an entire show on
you know, pick your pick, pick the number sixteen team
in the sec know, do an entire show on the

(13:24):
Mississippi State Secondary, you.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Know, go go way way deep into that.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
You might find it fascinating, but no one else is
going to give it, and it's going to get buried.
And so everybody kind of knows, all right, I got
to have my arch Manning cake. I've got to have
an arch Manning perspective, and the easiest one to go
with is you know, his last name. So all of
that is a way of saying the inflation, the expectations
were highly inflated on him.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
You know.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
It's it's like with Florida State, It's like with allan balance,
like with Georgia.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
We don't know yet. It's it's a it's.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
A frustrating thing that we don't quite have enough data
on him. He got he got his ass him to
him by host Ohio State, but then a lot of
people did too, and then he looked good last week,
but then a whole lot of people did too.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
So it's gonna be a little bit of time.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
You know.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
I I picked, perhaps foolishly, perhaps I drank the kool
aid and picked up Texas to win the national championship
over Penn State. I think I could still be perfectly valid,
but it's going to depend heavily on Arch learning the game,
learning the schemes, learning the speed, learning everything he needs
to learn to take this team through the playoffs, and

(14:27):
and and it's not a sure thing, but it's also
not a surely not thing, if that makes sense.

Speaker 6 (14:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
I was gonna say, what do you think of Sark's
interview yesterday? That it was it was the weirdest thing
I've ever think I've heard him say. I thought he
was articulate, and then he started rambling about like bathrooms,
and I'm like, what's happening here?

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Yeah, I mean, you know, the difference with that is
that I don't know about you guys, but I don't
have a camera on me in the bathroom, you know,
and Arch Arch does have a camera on him when
he's when he is in the field, So you know,
I mean, I get, I get the idea that I mean,
we've all had those pictures. That's that's why you know
there are delete functions on iPhones. You know that we've
all had that picture where everybody else looks good. We're

(15:07):
just like, you know, like, you know what, screw that
one that doesn't work.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
So I don't I.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Don't place a whole lot of infatus on on one
picture or one set of pictures. But yeah, Sark is
Sark is the kind of guy that man, you want
him on your side, you know, no matter what, because
he's you want and if you got him in your corner,
you know things are a little bit better. That's the
kind of coach you want if you're if you're a player,
you want a coach to be a psycho on behalf

(15:32):
of you. You know, you want a Nick Saban to
be a psychle a Kirby Smart, to just be able
to go nuts on the media on your behalf because
that makes you feel vulnerable. It makes you feel like
he's got your back, even if he's talking about reporters
bathroom habits, which is yeah, I mean real low down
all what I want to talk about in my day
to day life.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
I was going to say also to the fact of like,
you know, you pick Texas, you said it, and Penn
State there as well. I want to go transition over
to Penn State. They didn't look fantastic on Saturday either,
What do you know? And I feel like, you know,
I lived in State College for two years.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
My dad's a Penn State fan.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
I am not, as I kind of mentioned earlier, I'm
with West Virginia and rich Rod. But you know, I
feel like they have one of these games against like
nobody's once a year where you.

Speaker 6 (16:22):
Know, they're not really doing anything special.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Obviously they're controlling the game to win it, but they
I mean, they should beat the n by fifty or
sixty points, right.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
You know, and they're they're just not Drew Aller.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
I mean, I thought he missed several throws that you know,
and the O line couldn't get guys to get bat
and balls. I mean a lot of stuff going wrong.
What do you What was your make of Penn State
this weekend?

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Yeah, same same thing.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
I mean, this is it was like Georgia's game against
Marshall was sloppy, you know, but a win is a win.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
It's kind of a surviving advanced thing.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
You know.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
The other alternative is to be at Florida and to
have something, you know, jump up and have a team
jump up and bite you. So yeah, I mean I'm
not particularly worried, but you know, it's there are so
many moving parts right now, and and there's not really
any time for a preseason in college football because you know,
there's not a huge there's not enough room on the
calendar for it, is not enough room in the university

(17:10):
schedules for it. So you're going to get these kind
of good but not quite great sorts of games. And
then and these are the games that drive alumni nuts
because they want to see absolute perspection perfection. They want
to see one hundred points so like every single drive
should into a touchdown. So that's the kind of thing
that that alumni, you know, not unjustifiably want to see

(17:32):
that kind of chrisp perfection. But it's not going to happen.
It's just you've got to work your way into it.
And plus, you know, let's remember these are college kids.
These are they they're they're pro.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Athletes at this point realistically.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
But you know, when you go into a game against
East Poocy State you know, you're not going to be
as geared up for that one as you are going
to be against Michigan or Ohio State. There's just it's
just naturally you can. You can pump yourself up all
you want, but we know where you're really going to
get fired up.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
So I'm not worried about Penn State.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
I'm not worried about any of the teams that that
that this week didn't look precisely sharp. I want to
see how they fare under real battle conditions, and that's
that's gonna come in the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Absolutely, I'd be remiss Jay if we didn't talk about
Bill Belichick.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Again, speaking of things the media has to weigh in on. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
You know what, I what I thought was fascinating was
just how easy it all was for him. You know,
he just comes rolling into college football and he just
completely mastered the game. I'm just you know, hats off
to Bill Belichick. Now I did tune out after the
first drive, so I assume the rest of it went
that way. You know, correct me if I'm wrong, But yeah,
it was it was a mess. It was uh, you know,
Belichick goes and it's it's complicated doing you know, learning

(18:48):
college football, learning the aspects, learning the schemes, learning the motivations,
learning how to get your players all pulling in the
same direction. So yeah, after that that first drive against TCU,
when it looked perfect, everything is kind of been a
little bit rougher since then. Obviously you got the win
last week, but again week two, who cares, So we'll
see how it goes. I think that he is He's
gonna find his ways. He's too good of a coach

(19:10):
not to. But yeah, it's it's it's kind of good
to see that you can't just come waltzing into into
uh college football and beat the hell out of everybody,
you know, like your like your big brother coming and
beating up on your little brother and video games. So
it's a little little bit more to it than that.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Any thoughts on him banning the Patriots from all the facilities.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Yeah, it's just petty bull crap, man, I mean it's
just so silly. Just could be keep keep you know,
to quote somebody from from the old days, do your job,
stop worrying about stop being petty, you know, just just
quit it.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
Just just just focus on what needs to be focused on.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
I know that. I know that's what. I know that
he's got people in his ear. I know that he's
got grudges to settle. Look forward, man, you know you
won six super Bowls. You got nothing to apologize for.
Look forward, don't worry about the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
You gotta go. But just real quick, Oh no, no, doesn't.
Doesn't that sound like the actions of a twenty something
year old girl. Doesn't Does that sound you know? That
sound like we're not a sexist podcast. But at the
same that's not the actions of a seventy year old man.
That is the actions of they weren't nice to you, Well,

(20:22):
how about you tell them they can't come here either.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Yeah, that sounds like he's like, hmm, that's a good idea.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
I never thought what he's like, whatever, just do it,
just do it.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
I don't care, yeah, or you know, or the flip
side of that, the flip side of the additional side
of that is that sounds like somebody who just wants
to strip controversy to keep his name in the news,
because that's.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
What it did. You know, I mean, what are we
doing here? We're talking about it?

Speaker 5 (20:49):
So you know, influencers know that it doesn't matter what
they're saying about you as long as they're talking about you.
So you throw something like that in the water boom,
everybody jumps right on it, and and yeah, I mean
it's it's it's perfectly orchestrated. So yes, I'm with you.
I think there's a little bit of a puppet mastery
going on behind the scenes here with Bill Belichick that
that may not entirely be the kind of do your

(21:11):
job mentality that he had back in New England.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, I think you've just changed my mindset on this
entire thing. I haven't thought about that. Like I thought
he was just like being like an old fart about
it being petty.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
Now I'm thinking, wow, that's smart.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Huh. Yeah, Yeah, I want I wanted.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
To ask about you know, you meant we obviously they
played TCU this the first game. I just really want
to ask you this blanket state, who's winning the Big
Twelve at this point, Like, I mean, I mean they've
all kind of like shown up and obviously it's only
week two, but then Arizona State loses and you thought, oh, well,
they're for sure going to show.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
Up and they have Big Twelve championship.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Now they got a loss to Mississippi State, who's one
of the Big Twelve.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
Well, not to throwty buddy under the bus at my
at my company, but we accidentally published the first time
that we published our picks, we had Penn State winning
the Big Twelve.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Someone had actually and I mean we got it down immediately,
But I.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
Think Penn State is as good a chance as anybody
to win a Big Twelve at this point.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
I mean, who they all knows? Do we even know?
And that's kind of what makes it fascinating.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
We know, I mean I picked Kansas State to win,
and you know, I'm screwed on that. So you know,
who knows who's gonna win. It's gonna be it's gonna
be fun to watch. Uh, it's probably gonna end up
being I don't know, someone that we can't even pick
right now, because what Arizona State was ranked last to
start last year and they end up almost beating Texas,
taking Texas over time in the playoffs. So yeah, I
have no pick. I'm gonna defer, uh and we'll see

(22:40):
where it goes.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
It's a good call. I was gonna say, it's just madness.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
It's like the Big Twelve Conference is stuck in like
the season of two thousand and seven college ball, just
like parody, Like nobody can ever hold it for too long.
It's there's always got to It's always got a tumble
back down.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
So yeah, yeah, abrutely.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Well, Jay, we really do appreciate the time. I know
we got to get ready to let you go. You
can get Jay's new book, Iron in the Blood. It
just went on sales right behind him on August twenty sixth.
How the Alabama versus ALIVN rivalry shaped the soul of
the South. It is a great read. He's a great
columnist at Yahoo Sports and a friend of the program. Jay,

(23:22):
thank you for taking some time.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
I got to ask one more thing.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Absolutely yeah.

Speaker 6 (23:26):
All you audio listeners won't get this.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
You have an amazing bookcase, and I am I have
been tasked with building my wife a bookcase in the
next year.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
Probably won't happen. Where How did you get that? Did
you build that? I mean, I'm getting in the intricacies.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
I built it with my hands I tonight.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
Yeah no, no, I went and bought it at a
store near me. It's it's like modular pieces, so I
put it all together, but it looks a lot cooler
when you throw a bunch of a bunch of cool
junk on it.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
So yeah, oh she has as many books as you,
then it would fill it up immediately. So I'm just
looking at this and I'm like, I need to figure
out how to build this without actually building it.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
I mean, yeah, if you can find a furniture store
near you, yeah, I would go with someone else who
knows what they're doing. Unless you have unless you have
a lot more skills than I do.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
With no, no, but I need to make it look
like I did it, but like on a long weekend.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Like I'm gonna say, she could be out of town
at some point.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
At some point will be and I just gotta when
she's leaving, be cutting with a saw and be like
all right see and then boom to the store and
do all that. Okay, I got a book, now, I
got it, and I got an idea.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Now Jay comes on the Toll College Football and ends
with telling you telling us how to build a bookshelf. Jay,
thank you for taking some time. All right, we have
NFL reactions after this. Welcome back to the Opening Kickoff
podcast our Thanks to Jay Busby of Y'allhoo's sports for

(24:55):
joining us his new book. It's great. I highly advise
you going out out and getting it. And uh we
picked up David Miles.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
By the way, Miles is back.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
I had had my daily duties of cooking dinner and
I thought I could beat the clock. I was wrong,
But I'm here may talk spokes get into it.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Well, and we got a lot to talk about in
the NFL. My goodness, what a week one it was.
And I don't even know where to begin because there
were so many storylines.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
I have a great spot where we could start the Ravens.
It'd be a great spot.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
I mean, I don't know why we wouldn't. I don't
even know how you couldn't start with that. I'd let
you even start it. What are your thoughts like, I
have a no no, no, no, no, no no no,
I'm fine, I'm fine.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
No no.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Let's let's see he's seen it. Let's do this before this,
let's do this. This is yeah, this is this is
not anything. Here. Here's my takeaways. And I thought watching
here's what I will say. I didn't text you guys,
because I didn't. I truly couldn't stay up watch the
whole game. I watched most of the game.

Speaker 6 (26:11):
Did you wake up to that?

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I did. I did wake up to it. But here's
what I will say. I had this feeling during the game.
I had this feeling during the game. I kept going
the Ravens are making enough mistakes that if they stopped scoring,
Buffalo was gonna come back in this football game. Like
there was gonna be a moment where the Ravens were

(26:35):
gonna shoot themselves in the foot and Buffalo was gonna
get themselves back in this game. Now here's what I
will say. I think if this game's in Baltimore, I
don't think you see the collapse. I really don't. But
I think playing in Buffalo, in that stadium, all of
a sudden, that pressure starts to get that crowd gets
into the game, and the next thing you know, for

(26:57):
a bunch of guys that didn't play the higher preseason,
they wore out in the fourth quarter. The secondary was
physical and secondary was all over the guys in the
first half. By the fourth quarter they weren't. They were sloppy,
they made mistakes. I wasn't as surprised that they blew
the game. I think as so many of the Raven

(27:17):
fans are Now, look, a lot of this is coaching,
and I will throw that at the feed of the
coaching staff because this is a continual, routinely problem with
the Ravens. They get these big leads and they don't
know how to hold them late. That's a coaching problem.
But at the same time, it's Week one. That was
a really good team that they were playing. I mean,

(27:38):
you make mistakes against good teams, it's gonna hurt you.
And they made enough mistakes we all talk about. To
Derrick Henry fumble, Tyler Loop, the rookie kicker bounces one
off the upright, he makes that kick, this game goes
to overtime. I think the Ravens win the game in
overtime because I don't think Lamar gives the ball to
Josh Allen. So like to me, we're all all upset.

(28:00):
Raven fans are all upset, but know the game and
sort of know there was there was this kind of
there all night that the Ravens were teetering and making
that big mistake, and they did and it cost them.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
Do you think they should have went for it on
fourth and down? Fourth? Fourth and down? What am I
talking about fourth down.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Oh yeah, without a doubt in that moment, it has
to be your defense. Your defense, Your defense is struggling.
Like to me, it's not so much oh my god,
like we can get the three yards as much as
it's right now, What do I have more confidence in?
And it's I think I can get three yards, then

(28:40):
I think my defense can stop Josh Allen because the
defense was worn out, playing and simple, the defense got gassed.
That was they were not gonna be able to stop
Josh Allen. Anybody watching that game new that.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
You know what it reminded me of if you remember
that uh Brady Manning game two thousand and six's Bill
Belichick's face with these same decision. He decided to go
for it and didn't get it, and everyone was like
he should have punted it. Yeah, And then he was
and then he's still to this day and I'm on
this side too. He was like, I had more faith
in us getting three yards than I did stopping Peyton Manning.

(29:14):
Replace Peyton Manning with Josh Allen. I had way more
faith in Lamar Jackson and or Derrick Henry getting three
yards than I would have in that defense stopping Josh
Allen to shoot that defense a little bit of bill
because they've touched on this with them wearing out out
the game. The Bills ran eighty five place.

Speaker 6 (29:32):
It's a lot in the NFL. It's a lot of ball.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
They had the ball for thirty five minutes, brown like
they had. They were killing the Ravens on time of
possession by a mile.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
The Ravens were scoring too fast at one point, like
they're like, oh shit, I mean, who there go.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
Down at one point? I mean I need a minute?

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, like they were breaking Also, I got it. That's
why I'm shooting John Hart. I do want to shoot
John hallall a little bit of bail based on field position,
just a little because they were like the thirty five yeah,
like yeah, they're thirty nine. Yeah, essentially you're that was okay,
if we get this, we lose. I mean, if we

(30:16):
don't get this, we lose, which essentially happened with the
punt anyways, But I can see I can see why
he'd be like, Okay, let's try the defense. Regardless he's
given up seventeen fourth quarter leads since he's been the
head coach. That's emotion. It's Nazi ninety one. Only reason
it's the most is ninety ninety one because they're not

(30:36):
counting back further than that yet, So it might be
the most of all time. We don't even know.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, I mean there's probably some of the eighties that
people like are just ignoring.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
I mean for sure.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
I mean, shit, how many people, like how many plumbers
just gave up in the fourth quarter?

Speaker 6 (30:51):
You never know.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, they're like the fifties, You never know. I just
I just really thought they should have went for it.
I think they's even though I've always been on this,
like if you're gonna go for it, even though that
field position, if you don't get it is bad. I
feel like if you could make a stop there that
you hold them a field goal, you still might have
a little bit of time at the end of it,
you know what I mean, Like they're being a feeling

(31:14):
you might still get thirty seconds and like thirty seconds
my shit, the first off, the balls starting at the
thirty five yard line is a fucking joke. Like now
on a touchback, like that's nothing for like mahomes Alan Lamar,
Like if they're ever down like fifteen like.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
Fifteen seconds to play, they need a field goal they
might get that, like that might be easy for them
to get.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I mean, obviously not like some teams, but I'm just saying,
like thirty five, I feel like is aggressive. I don't
know about you guys, but thought I was like, why
are they starting so far? Did they get a penalty?
I was like confused for a couple of drives. I
was very like, what has happened here? I did not
see that rule change.

Speaker 7 (31:55):
To your touchback point. I mean he's also saw a
playout last night.

Speaker 8 (32:00):
Yeah, and they when they told him, hey, you could
take it out versus uh them being.

Speaker 7 (32:04):
Prepared to get to take the touch back.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (32:07):
Personally, I'm kind of similar to Dave where I turned
off the game when it was thirty.

Speaker 7 (32:13):
Four nineteen because any reasonable person would think, Okay, the
Ravens should be able to do this, let me go
watch the bottle.

Speaker 8 (32:20):
I then did not get back into the game until
Peyton in the group chat it said oh.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
I was like, oh my god. Nah.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
I was like, okay, let me go turn this back on.

Speaker 7 (32:30):
And I think that I keV you made the Kevin
Day booth. You guys have both touched on it. But
the point of you have more faith in your defense
than you do getting those yards. Really is that kind
of double edged sword you die on.

Speaker 8 (32:44):
It's you wait yours. You can't win for losing, and
you can't lose for winning. It's either you're gonna get
this call, you that call you didn't get. I'm confusing
myself as much as just saying he made the right decision.
You should always have faith in your defense, saying that
kind of point you don't need to score it should
want to score, but you don't need to faith any

(33:05):
defense get you through.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
But it's marvelous.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Either it's either or though right, Because let's say they
gave Lamar the ball and they got stuffed. Let's say
they got two yards instead of three. Would we be
sitting there like darning you shouldn't have had faith in
Lamar king Jackson, Like would we really be sitting here saying.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
That, No, that's a great you know what, that's a
great sitting.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Here saying you know what, you shouldn't have gave the
ball to Derek, that was a bad decision, Like, we
wouldn't be sitting here saying that. So, So I don't know, man,
It really depends on the situation. For most coaches. Yeah,
I got faith in the defense. When your backfield consists
of a Kaiju and the human flash, yeah, you should
probably get a ball to one of them. That's probably

(33:48):
a decent decision.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
I will say also that kind of this also plays
into the whole you know, rust of a team coming
into Week one. This is why I never agreed with
any of the fourth pregame the game playing. You see
the Bengals playing their guys.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
Nah, look, the Bengals gonna be problems.

Speaker 8 (34:08):
Are an issue, but they're an issue. But at least
they understand we need to get our guys at least some.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Trying to kill Joe Burrow in the preseason they.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Do that every years, and a fairness, they've been flying
Joe Burrow's murder for years, for years.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I will say, all the all the Joe Burrow stands
out there in the world, they were real. You know,
they didn't take any slack Sunday when he had seven
yards in the second half.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
That's all I'm saying. I'm just saying, all.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
The defenders of Joe Burrow, they didn't catch any ship
at all.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Well, Peyton, you have a microphone in front of you,
and as do I so allow me to be the
one right shirt. Y'all spend all your money on offense
to beat Cleveland by a point?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yes, Cleveland, and they should have won, and they should
have won.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Cleveland was dad is old enough to beat Cleveland's dad?
Cleveland whose quarterback is old enough to beat Joe Burrow's dad?
Y'all beat y'all beat them by a singular point and
might have lost if not for their kicker not being
able to make one late in the game. Like the
that's an embarrassing way to start your week. That might
be worse than losing to the Patriots last year in highsight,
like that's that's terrible. Joe Burrow and what Jamar Chase have,

(35:19):
like thirty yards or something?

Speaker 6 (35:21):
I thought that he never had, like a catch. I
like like red zone.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
I like the Steelers game and red zone on and
I thought every time they go to the Bengals game,
I'm like, all right, here's where Jamar Chase gets the ball? Nah,
just nothing. It was so fucking stupid. I don't know
what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
I got two fantasy leagues, m Chase. Jamar Chase went
first in both.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah, I mean he went I think he went first
in about all of them with most people.

Speaker 8 (35:47):
Third round in mind, and I'm I'm not gonna continue
my Joe Burrow uh hate because quite frankly, I'm the
only one on this podcast that I don't understand.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
But I also think that we're we're not giving the
Browns enough credit here.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
You know, I think so fancy gets guys riled up
for a while. I mean, if you you lose eleven games,
you're like, ah, fuck, you know what we're it's.

Speaker 8 (36:13):
I guess it's week one. Time will tell. But to me,
the Bengals look the same. And if anything, I think
the Browns being able to not get absolutely shut out
and obliterated, I.

Speaker 7 (36:23):
Think speaks more to them in their development.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
But that's just me to give the Browns a little
bit of credit. I'll do it. Myles Garrett's so good
at football. He's so good at football, Like he had
three C three QB hits, four tackles for lolls, five
total tackles, two sacks, Like he's so good.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
That video of him just doing the stunt on the inside,
running full sweet at Joe Burrow, It's like that can't
be real. Surely you guys would have like double team.
That guy not you know what I mean, like untouched
as an offensive lineman.

Speaker 8 (37:00):
Yesman, you see a man like Miles Garrett running at
full speed like that?

Speaker 6 (37:05):
What do you do.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Vacating my bowels like that's the only action. I have
nothing for Miles Garrett. That's why I got a microphone
in front of me and not a playbook right now.
I got nothing from I've got nothing from Miles Garrett.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
What do you mean.

Speaker 6 (37:20):
Let's bring back the chop block.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
For him to jump over me. You're gonna jump smooth
over me? Bro? What nothing for Miles Garrett?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
You gonna you see that video that high school kids,
some dude try to chop block him and he just
donkey Kong punched him down like that.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
I've never seen anybody do that.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
As he shaid, chop blocking, chot blocking is for softies.
Don't be a sign.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I know it's crazy man block docking.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Man.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Hey, speaking of soft let's talk about the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
Man.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
There we go. Wow, what a transition.

Speaker 6 (37:52):
Dumb like, really really bad. I mean the real question.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Is if here well no, no, let me ask this.
If they don't improve, does Mike McDaniel make it through
the season? And it's not even like being a hating
Mike McDaniel. It's just that team just did just look dysfunctional.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah, you hit her on the head. It's not that
they lost, it's that they've looked disjointed for about a
year and a half now, and it's and it's the
way they've lost their playoff games and the fact that
it's been because they look soft and they have yet
to beat those accusations. And now for them to have

(38:30):
Daniel Jones look like Dan Marino. Yeah, on Sunday. That's
a tough way to go out. And you look at
the rest of this Dolphins schedule, it's hard for me
to imagine the scenario where Mike McDaniel isn't the offensive
coordinator for the San Francisco forty nine ers again next year.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I was just gonna say, sometimes, you know, some coaches,
you know, you're just good at being a coordinator, and
that's good. That's okay, that is good money. Mike mc daniel,
he's gonna get another job. It just isn't gonna be
head coach unfortunately.

Speaker 7 (39:02):
Week five, oh him, it's a week five.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
That's early. When is there by?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
I was just gonna say, when is the Dolphins bye
week week?

Speaker 3 (39:14):
They're by week's week twelve after the Commanders.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
That's late.

Speaker 7 (39:19):
He's not making it.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
He's not making it at here, but.

Speaker 7 (39:22):
Here, here's here's the first five pones.

Speaker 8 (39:23):
You already have, indeed, and you have New England, you
have Buffalo is an obvious, you have the Jets, and
you have the Panthers.

Speaker 7 (39:30):
If he doesn't get.

Speaker 8 (39:31):
At least three wins, I don't see him making it,
making it much further in the season.

Speaker 7 (39:36):
There's not a team, but I.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Have to watch my Patriots. He might end up one
on one.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (39:43):
The effect of It's like, oh, he could still lose.
They can still lose.

Speaker 8 (39:46):
To the That's where I'm like, you have to have
at least three wins in order to keep your job.
If you don't have them three wins from those teams,
because we all know Buffalo, you're not.

Speaker 7 (39:56):
Being oh, that's fight out.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Let's not downplay the fact that the Buffalo game and
the Jets game are both in primetime. Like the Buffalo
games on the Thursday. The Jets game is on a Monday,
so that might like losing back to back primetime games.
You know how these owners are watching your team get
embarrassed on national TV twice in a row. He might
not make it to the Panthers game. Yeah, depending on
how mad Steven.

Speaker 7 (40:19):
Ross five, were gonna know if he's gonna be here
or not.

Speaker 6 (40:25):
Where do we think Tyger kill goes.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Suspension?

Speaker 6 (40:30):
I was gonna say, jail is an option apparently, now
think about it.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Okay, let's not getting by the way, By the way,
I did see it, said he spit on her?

Speaker 6 (40:38):
What it was spitting? Spitting is the thing the day,
like the in thing right now.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
David, hold on, let's let's go to the Yeah, you
know what, we didn't get to talk about you.

Speaker 8 (40:50):
Yeah, God, would you expect me to say, I'm not
I'm just asking.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
I think I I mean, we said it in our group,
like like I'd rather get punched in the face.

Speaker 6 (41:04):
I think No.

Speaker 8 (41:07):
I think that there is a level of respect that
you have to have that that you don't have to
have to spit on somebody. And I feel like for
the whole narrative of what Dak spit first, I don't
care if someone spit in your direction.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
Did he spit on you?

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Then? It was a good movie.

Speaker 6 (41:23):
Though, it was a good one.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
This feels like a conversation you'll be having with Cam
in about five years. This doesn't sound like a conversation
you'd be having with a grown man.

Speaker 7 (41:32):
Yeah, that's the issue.

Speaker 8 (41:34):
Like you the center of a defense and you do
some bonehead ship like that, Like, yes, people going to
call your name. The only difference is is I do
see the point that they had of we would have
suspended him, but we've seen that he got ejected early
enough to where he's that's that's a that's a suspension.
I personally, as an organization would sit him for maybe

(41:56):
a quarter or two. But there's got to be that's
a boneheaded move from the center of a defense.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
That's that's the best I can do it?

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Can I take it a step further? Isn't he up
for an extension at the end of the year.

Speaker 6 (42:10):
Yeah, he's up from he's bru he's up.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
This is his contract yere Essentially he's up to make
about a hundred ms. And this is how you start
your season. Before you take a singular snap, you decide
to spit on the quarterback of America's team.

Speaker 6 (42:29):
You know, you know how.

Speaker 8 (42:33):
America's team is a red team in Kansas City.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Okay, I love I love Dan to Dave, but.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
Come on, like I'm just saying I love Dan too.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
But stop it.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
You just see you just see more of them right now.
That's all it is. You just see the red more.

Speaker 8 (42:52):
I'm not calling Dallas the America's team. That's flat out
like that's there. There are nothing, There is nothing now anyway.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Okay, let's not de rail the whole show with this.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, what Jerry Jones fucking wants.

Speaker 7 (43:10):
Sure, I just think that it was a boneheaded move.

Speaker 8 (43:12):
But other than that, I mean it affected the game.
You know, Dac, youve acknowledge that that they had changed
the game plan for me. And so when it comes
down to it, yes, the bonehead move changed the game.

Speaker 7 (43:21):
The Eagles made adjustments.

Speaker 8 (43:23):
Our quarterback, our cornerbacks, our whole tr dB section looked
like Swiss cheese, and quite frankly, I was ready to
snatch every pencil pen in my back I have in
my house.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
It was one guy. It was one guy got.

Speaker 7 (43:35):
Burnt a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
It was it? What did he I was?

Speaker 3 (43:40):
I saw the back of Dorriy Jackson's jersey so many.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Times he d I didn't even know Dorry Jackson was
in the NFL anymore.

Speaker 6 (43:48):
That was where I was like, is that him? Like
he's got to be what thirty three? How old is
Dorry Jackson old?

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Too old to still be playing cornerback for the Philadelphia Eagles.
That's how old he is too old.

Speaker 8 (44:02):
But even to that degree, I mean the rest of
when you don't have that pressure. Also, it kind of
begs the question of how much how many holes did
the secondary have last year?

Speaker 7 (44:13):
Because we have much pressure up front, you have to
beg that question because Jalen is such a force and
the rest of the rest of that front seven or
front five.

Speaker 8 (44:21):
And so I am not worried about.

Speaker 7 (44:24):
It moving forward. You know, the league dealt with them,
the organization dealt with them.

Speaker 8 (44:28):
We can move forward with an actual look for how
the Equals look offensively and defensively instead of just hypothesizing
on what could have been because of what A bowhead
dicking movie did?

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Can we can I can I raise a question before
we move on that might make you worry? Does this
not feel like the last time the year after y'all
won the Super Bowl? Looking at that, looking at that,
looking at that defense on Thursday? Does doesn't this feel
very similar?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Cue the sad music. As David thinks about it.

Speaker 8 (45:03):
That it's the reason why I say yes and no
is because there's not the same changes.

Speaker 7 (45:10):
After the last Super Bowl, there was a Super Bowl,
there were a whole.

Speaker 8 (45:15):
Entire offensive and defensive changes, a whole different personnel, your
key players, every single one, your key players two left.
And I think that when it comes to this one, yeah,
you you can see, you can say, you can say.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
That it's similar.

Speaker 8 (45:31):
But I'm not worried only because I know that the
defense is behind Victa and Vick has shown that he
can do what needs to be done to make adjustment.
And honestly, the secondary can get their stelf together when
you have more of a presence up front to get pressure.
And yes, that scrambling leakal of scrambling quarterbacks can make

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a problem for a secondary that doesn't know how to
stop one guy. But you know, I have faith and
Vic more than I do, more than I have distrust
in the secondary.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
After bull Dick, let's get out, let's get ready to
wrap this up. I'm gonna ask you each who didn't
impress in week one in your eyes?

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Only one?

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Ah, I'll go it. I'll start the easy answers to
the Lions. I'm not gonna take the Lions, but I'm
sure one of you will. I'm in the Houston Texans.

Speaker 6 (46:29):
Yeah, hey, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
With all now. Again, they gotted that they gutted that
offensive line and it showed big time Sunday, but they
just were not weren't able to get Stroud, wasn't able
to get in rhythm. I thought Nick Chubb looked good.
I thought the defense was all right, but that's a

(46:53):
Houston team that they're just gonna get in their own
way a lot of games.

Speaker 6 (46:58):
I thought the forty nine ers looked like chef.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
I didn't think well, like I mean, like no offense
to like Kyle Shannon, and I know he's like a
respective play caller. I mean you could see when they're
gonna hand the ball off to Christian McCaffrey and he
was getting like popped like every time.

Speaker 6 (47:13):
I'm third and short.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
And brock Party also looked terrible, Like you know, I'm
not like I'm like here, you.

Speaker 6 (47:21):
Could tell me brock Party is good.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
You can tell me he's bad, you know, sure, But
like I thought, they looked quite terrible. I think, you know,
Fred Warner looked, okay, George Kittle being out the next
couple weeks, that's not gonna help.

Speaker 6 (47:34):
You still don't have receivers back.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
The forty nine ers did not look good in my
opinion that that's that's where I said.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
All right, so the Lions are the easy answer, So
I'm just gonna go ahead and take them. But honorable
mention to the Kansas City Chiefs defense the Lions. I
was halfway hoping that the Bears would dominate yesterday just
so we get have the oh it's Ben Johnson the
whole time conversation. But it seems like that when we're
gonna table that one for now. It's more so there

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was a level of that we're so used to seeing
with the Lions that they didn't look like kneecap biers
on Sunday. They looked like they were on the receiving
end of the kneecap bites. And I think that was
the more disappointing thing outside of the offense looking lethargic
for most, if not all, the game, and their defense
is kind of back to the issue of oh, if
we block Aden Hudgerson, you have no pass rush whatsoever. Huh.

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And we no longer have Aaron Glenn to draw up
these blitzes to kind of play kid and make sure
that's better. Their dB room is still young, and they
lost their one veteran presence that was Carlton Davis and
now it's Brian Branch against the world. So it's very
difficult for me watching that Lions team. And yeah, the
Packers might be one of the better teams in the NFC,
if not the NFL, but if they don't pass these

(48:53):
holes up for the rest of the year, this really
looks like a year from health situation for the Lions.

Speaker 6 (48:58):
I also don't understand.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
I don't know there he clarity. I also I'm not
sure if you play at this point. When I googleed him,
why do the Lions cut Dance Skipper?

Speaker 3 (49:09):
I think someone signed him for a bigger contract.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Ull I looked it up and it says he's still
on the Lions, but like.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
He's on the practice squad. He's one of the best,
said veterans. Why is there a reason that happened? It
was some sort of numbers crunch. If I remember what
I read out of some of the Detroit media. I
mean the Lions. I think everybody like, oh, it's so
easy to say Ben Johnson was the whole reason. Again,

(49:37):
I go back to it's so hard to read these
teams in week one because they don't play in the
preseason and you have a team in the Lions that
have two new coordinators, and really, the first time you're
going against another team, it doesn't look great. I'm not surprised.
My one thing was with some of these talking heads

(50:00):
and these people, particularly online, and I start to get
kind of the ships of after a while are like,
we just don't do critical thinking when it comes to takes.
It's just we're throwing ship out there. And it's like, well, yeah,
the Lions aren't gonna look great. They don't have they
have two new coordinators. I don't care what you do

(50:21):
in practice, and at the end of the day, it
ain't games. So we have we have these overreactions. Oh
my god, JJ McCarthy looks horrible for half. Did JJ
McCarthy play in the preseason?

Speaker 9 (50:33):
No, which boggles my mind, Like address the the elephant
in the room, which is we're gonna see ship football
for three weeks.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
There's gonna be sloppy football for three weeks in the
NFL because these guys don't play in the preseason, so
I don't get all this wrapped up like everybody does.
Oh my god, life and death nonsense, Like, guys, come on,
let's let's let's be smart here and actually think critically.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah, but we're this is a podcast. We're kind of
like supposed to do that, like we have to do that.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
No, there's a line in there somewhere, right.

Speaker 6 (51:08):
We don't have to be.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
There's a line somewhere in there. Because there are some
of these teams where you see flaws and it's things
we thought of there were gonna be flaws in an
off season, and you kind of look at them and
you're like, oh, that flaw that we talked about for
six months, it's still there. You've done nothing about it. Like,
for example, the Bengals offensive line. We've been talking about
this for months and now, oh my god, Myles Garrett

(51:32):
came to town and what do you know, It looks
like that offensive line has issues. It's things like that,
and there's teams that look surprisingly bad and you're trying
to diagnose why on the fly, and hey, I don't
know let's wait a month. Isn't the sexy answer, even
though that is probably the right answer. That is what
makes the NFL fun. Though it's a week to week league,

(51:52):
we have an entire week to pontificate and go ahead
and make these theories and then come Thursday when the
let's say the Packers get obliterated by the Commanders on Thursday,
and what do we do then?

Speaker 2 (52:02):
What do we do with my mind blown?

Speaker 6 (52:06):
Dane Daniels is God send.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
He is, he is here, he is, he is the
he is sent to defeat all the bad guys in
the NFC that I hate.

Speaker 6 (52:16):
Yea, he is sent specifically to do that David Miles.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Line.

Speaker 7 (52:23):
So you said, my A m B. So I'm not
even gonna just repeat it. I have to forget it.

Speaker 8 (52:29):
I'll just say anyway, the lines are my biggest upset
because I actually.

Speaker 7 (52:33):
Had them making a decent run. I'm not gonna.

Speaker 8 (52:36):
Say they went all the way, but I had them
going pretty far. And one thing that I always forget
that day brought up the new you have different coordinators
as a team who won Super Bowl lost their coordinators
and then went to dogship. I actually campletely understand where
it goes like where their trajectory can go. I'm just
a huge Dan Campbell fan, so I will always bank

(52:56):
on Dan camp But you know, likewise.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
That that's the other disappointing part, Like they didn't look
like a Dan Campbell team like that. That that's more
so what I was getting at. I was like the
Lions we've been used to seeing, specifically upfront, and they
lost I think their entire interior offensive line.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Yeah, Tiara and Arnold I think also left pretty early
in that game.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Yeah, Like, there's there was a lot going on with
the Lions, a lot of change that we maybe didn't
take into account. But man, like, I don't know, dog
like we've really got. I'm not saying it's over for
the Lions. They play the Bears next Sunday, let's see
how they look. But if we look up by week
five and after that Cleveland game, we're still seeing the
same issues, Dave, we're gonna have. We're gonna have to

(53:43):
call them back to the carpet.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
That's fine. Then by then we'll know. By then we'll know.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
I was gonna say I was gonna give praise. I thought,
you know, obviously it didn't win, but I got Justin Fields,
and the Jets looked a lot better. I mean, like
way better, like hell yeah, I mean you know it,
Like as I'm watching Aaron Rodgers like defeat time with
his arm and I want to preface only his arm
because thatman the moment pressure, he's like, oh I'm fucked,

(54:11):
I'm trapped here, like it's like quicksands like like surrounded him.
I was like, damn, I wish you signed Justin Fields.
That guy could have been, like, you know, maybe been
the guy I thought. I think I also would like
Justin Fields to come out and say, the moment you
benched me for Russell Wilson's dumb ass, I was never
coming back. I would like him to tell me that,

(54:31):
because that has to be it, because I wouldn't come
back if you bench me for that guy in New
York right now, because that guy boo boo. I think
you just have to start Jackson Dark too, because I
don't know how you make it.

Speaker 6 (54:46):
Brian Dable, I mean you you ain't gonna make it.
Jameis Winston, let's do Jamis.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
I'll be I'll be honest, I'll be shocked. By this
time next week. We're not talking about Jackson Dart's first start, like,
I'll be stunned if by Thursday or like by the
time this podcast comes out. Yeah, don't get Jackson starts,
Jackson Darts starting next game.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
I think, I think, I mean, I think the Giants
have literally the toughest schedule in the NFL. They so like,
you don't have a good time to like do this,
but you gotta do it like sooner rather than throw.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
The kid in the friar, man through the kid in
the friar Like NFL, there are no there is no
East Tennessee School for the Blind in the NFL. Bro like, oh,
you man in the fire.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
So if he does start, you better watch that that
Cheney's wearing.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Oh that chain, that's happening.

Speaker 6 (55:33):
That chain is so tight around his neck.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Off his neck.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
That's that's going to happen. They played a Chiefs in
a few weeks. Chris Jones, come for that chain.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
I wouldn't wear that ship tell you that.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
All right, we gotta wrap this podcast up. It is
great to have our guy KP with us now here
on a regular basis hosting this show. How they feel
KP being back with the family.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
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Speaker 3 (56:20):
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Billy Kundiffs gotta be.

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