š§©Ā Season Theme: Unmade
This season, we walk into the unexpectedāwhere life unravels, dreams collapse, and identities shift. But sometimes, being unmade is the first step toward being remade. What do we do when the timeline of our lives breaks beyond repair?
š£Ā Guest Introduction:
This week, Iām joined byĀ Jill Pavlov, a magnetic voice in the world of messaging and storytelling. Sheās the founder ofĀ Copy POP!, where she helps women transform the chaos in their heads into powerful words theyāre proud to say out loud. Jill is helping in assisting entrepreneurs clarify their brand message. She was an entertainment reporter, learning firsthand how presence, performance, and storytelling can command a room.
In this episode, Jill opens up with raw honesty about her battle with eating disorders and addiction ā the parts of her story that were messy, hidden, and tangled. With courage and insight, she shares how being unmade cracked her open, eventually giving her the clarity and confidence she brings to her work today.
š”Ā Episode Highlights:
What it means to be part of theĀ 9%: the estimated portion of the U.S. population who will face an eating disorder
Why the struggle often remains unseen, especially for women in their 40s and 50s
Jillās journey through addiction, disordered eating, and the turning point toward healing
How clutter, both internal and external, reflects the chaos of our lives ā and how we begin to clear it
The parallels between making a bed and rebuilding a life
Why storytelling isnāt just about words, but about reclaiming your voice
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