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July 19, 2025 58 mins

🎙BONUS: The Change

🧩  Unmade:
🛏️ Like an unmade bed, this season leans into the raw, honest, and often messy moments of life—the ones where everything we thought we knew unravels. It’s in these unmade spaces that we begin to see what’s real, what matters, and who we truly are becoming.

🩵💔 

What if the worst moment of your life didn’t destroy you, but instead uncovered your calling?
🔥 In the wake of an unthinkable tragedy, Kathy Sanders did something few would dare: she stepped closer to the pain, asked the hardest questions, and refused to be silenced.
👣 This isn’t just a story about grief. It’s about uncovering the truth, no matter where it leads—and choosing to remain unchanged by a broken world.

👣 Kathy Sanders never intended to become an advocate, author, or investigator. But when the Oklahoma City bombing claimed the lives of her two young grandsons on April 19, 1995, everything in her life came unmade. 💥👼👼

As she mourned, a deeper question haunted her: Was the story we were told the whole truth?
📖 Nearly thirty years later, Kathy’s relentless pursuit of answers has uncovered disturbing evidence of a broader conspiracy—connecting domestic terrorism to far-right extremists, militia groups, and possible government failures. Her book, Shadows of Conspiracy, and her appearance in the Max documentary An American Bombing: The Road to April 19th, challenge us to look beyond the headlines and confront the truths we might rather ignore.

🎶 

This bonus episode takes its name from the Garth Brooks song “The Change,” which reminds us that sometimes our actions aren’t about changing the world, but about refusing to let the world change us:

🎵 And I hear them saying,
"You'll never change things
And no matter what you do
It's still the same thing."
But it's not the world that I am changing
I do this so, this world we know
Never changes me
What I do is so, this world will know
That it will not change me"

🕊️ 

Previously on Other People’s Shoes, we spoke with David Thibodeau, one of the survivors of the Waco standoff, another event closely tied to the timeline that led to April 19th.
👉 Listen to that powerful conversation here: Season Finale: Waco

💡 Episode Highlights:

👩‍👦 Kathy’s deeply personal story of loss and how it led to a life of uncovering the truth

🕵️‍♀️ The disturbing patterns and overlooked evidence that challenge the official narrative

🕊️ What it means to pursue justice without bitterness

🎤 The power of staying grounded in your convictions—even when the world says, "You’ll never change things"

🪞 How does this story fit into the larger theme of living through the “unmade” moments

🔗 Connect with Kathy Sanders:
📘 Book: Shadows of Conspiracy
📱 Facebook: facebook.com/kathy.sanders.90

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