Austin Sutor on Mental Health, Street Style, and Building HOUSE OF DREAMR

#13: Join us as we sit down with Austin Sutor, the visionary founder of HOUSE OF DREAMR, an American luxury brand redefining street style from its home base in Austin, TX. Once an athlete, Auston discovered his true calling as a creative, channeling his passion into writing and fashion design.

In this episode, Austin opens up about his struggles with mental health, the challenges of overcoming negative feedback, and the transformative power of believing in your worth. He shares how self-confidence and perseverance helped him build a brand that’s making waves in the world of luxury fashion.

Whether you’re chasing big dreams, exploring your creative potential, or looking for inspiration to overcome challenges, Austin’s story is a testament to resilience and the power of staying true to yourself.

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Episode Transcript

Cassandra (00:13):
Austin s suitor.
I'm so excited to have you onthe podcast.
Um, not only are you a designer,a former athlete, a creative,
um, you're also someone Imatched with on Bumble I don't
know if you know that, but, um,that's a good start.
That's, that's exactly how Ikind of found out about you.

(00:35):
Yeah.
Is I was like going throughBumble and anyone that I think
is cute, I just instantly gofollow them on Instagram Like I
don't mess with like the datingapp stuff.
That's funny.
So I went and followed you onInstagram.
Mm-hmm.
And I was like, whoa, there's awhole lot more to this guy than
just some guy on Bumble.

(00:55):
Mm-hmm.
Um, so I was like, I have to gethim on the podcast.
You've been on quite a fewpodcasts.
So, and I know we talked about,you know, your time kind of
being a writer mm-hmm.
and that's kind of where youfirst got started, your first
creative outlet.
Do you wanna talk a little bitabout that?

(01:16):
Yeah, sure.
Um, just how it started.
Yeah.
Just kind of, because, you know,I'm looking at it from like a
perspective of Instagram mm-hmm.
because that's kind of where Ifound you and followed you.
Yeah.
And I don't think you have, Howlong ago was that?
That's a good question.
Not, you know, I'm not astalker.

(01:37):
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
uh, I think it was probably likea few months ago.
Okay.
Gotcha.
Um, and I, I don't even know howwe decided to do an episode
together.
I'm not, I don't know, did Ireach out to you or did you
reach out to me?
I think probably he reached outto me I'm not sure.
Um, but yeah, no, I started, uh,I started writing a lot.

(02:00):
Probably a few years ago when Iwas going through therapy,
trying to work through somedifferent things and like, I
just found that as a tool thatreally helped me express myself
and get things out, um, youknow, and, and put them down on
paper and the notes section onmy phone and be able to go back
and reference them or just, youknow, add to it.

(02:21):
And I just enjoyed that for, fora while.
It helped me clear my head and Idid other things as well on top
of that, but that was a reallypowerful tool for me as I was
working through some thingsduring that time of my life.
And then I just like kind ofrealized when I started to share
some of it that I had like agift with words in some sense.

(02:44):
I think I was always likewriting kind of to like a
younger version of myself or tomyself with what I would share.
Um, but from that, you know,during that time, my life
definitely got a lot better.
I got a lot healthier in a lotof ways and, you know, I just.
Kept going with it and now havea brand from from that.

(03:06):
Um, so it's interesting wherethings can start and then like
what they lead to.
Yeah.
And you were ready under analias, right?
Mm-hmm.
So people didn't know that itwas you.
Mm-hmm.
And I think at one, I think Iheard at one point or we talked
about, um, maybe you were incollege and some people kind of
found out that you were writingand you stopped for a little

(03:27):
bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What, why'd you do that?
Like what held you back, um,when these people like figured
out, Hey, that's Austin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was right after college.
So started a, a blog and I wasgonna write about my time
teaching English in Thailand andlike traveling around and you

(03:49):
know, kind of discoveringmyself.

Austin (03:51):
And that was sort of the intention of it.
But the first thing I posted, Ijust saw like a video Snapchat
of.
Some people mocking it andreading it out loud or pregame
people that I was friends with,still friends with.
Um, but that was tough for mejust to swallow in that moment.
And I really wanted to addressit at that time, but I didn't.

(04:14):
And I just kind of like sat onit.
But it stopped me from creatingfor like a while, just from the
fear of judgment and the fear oflike what others think or what
they would say about it.
Um, but then as I matured, Ithink my perspective changed and
I just realized how much I hadgrown in that time.

(04:36):
So I had to give them the samechance.
And you know, I think we comefrom places where people know
more often, like a formerversion of ourselves, like
people.
A hundred times a thousand timesthroughout their life, right?
Like there's a lot of peoplethat know you from high school
and college that don't know thecurrent version of you.
So when they see you doingsomething, they're gonna hold

(04:56):
you accountable to that formerversion that they know, but
maybe not give you the chance tosay, okay, like, you know,
Austin's grown and he's adifferent personality than he
was when I knew him, when Ispent time around him.
Um, so I just kind of looked atit that way.
And, you know, I think it's alot easier to judge than it is

(05:17):
to understand, you know, likeunderstanding takes effort and
asking questions and what doesthis mean?
Or why do you do this?
Why is it important to you?
You know, what's the purpose ofit?
What's your intention?
And I think if someone were tospend the time and ask me that
at that time, then they may notchoose.
They may not have chosen to dothat.
Um, but you know, things aremisinterpreted.

(05:39):
And I think I've also learned,like when you do anything, A
little bit out there, a littlebit different than the norm.
You have to be okay with beingmisunderstood and like
accepting.
That is hard sometimes because,you know, most people want the
approval of many in a lot ofways.
And just like that validation ofyou're doing what you're doing

(06:01):
and you know, people see it andthey validate it and that makes
you feel good, makes you keepgoing, but, um, you can't please
everyone and you're not gonnawin everyone over and not
everyone's gonna be a fan.
And it doesn't matter how hardyou try.
Like there's no point focus onthe people that do support you
and growing that.
So that's kind of like myperspective shift that I went

(06:23):
through.
And over time those people cameback to me and like, now support
what I do.
So it's been interesting, but,you know, things come full
circle.
You just, I don't know, time,time can tell stories that a lot
of people.
Can't, I think.
Yeah, I think it's hard too,like, cuz you were like an

(06:45):
athlete, right?
Like so, you know, there's likea stigma.
I feel like that comes Yeah.
With being an athlete and beinga creative doesn't go side by
side with being an athlete.
So, um, it's probably, probablywas hard for your friends at the
time to understand where youwere going with it.
Um, and I com like I totallyunderstand like stopping

(07:08):
something that you're working onbecause of negative feedback
that you get from someone.
And I feel like that goestowards anything, whether you're
an entrepreneur, whether you'rewriting, whether you're starting
a podcast.
Um, it's easy to stop whenpeople are giving you negative
feedback.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's pretty cool that youkept writing even though that

(07:28):
you were getting like, feedbackfrom people like that.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
I mean, I did stop for a while,but then I picked it back up and
I don't know, I wouldn't saylike, Receive negative feedback
from anyone.
Like no one's that big of anasshole to say something like,
Look, this stuff looks too goodfor you to be negative.
Yeah.
But no, I mean, I don't know.

(07:49):
I think, you know, you can telllike when, I could tell when I
would post things that were alittle bit like out there that I
would write about life and justsee how many shares it got and
like, I know what that means,you know, like people are
sending it to other peopletalking about it, which isn't a
bad, doesn't mean it's a badthing, right?
Like, could be a good thing.

(08:09):
Um, I don't know.
But I always, you know, fromthat experience, like I think
it's important to, uh, there'sa, a book that I read and it's
about like how we spontaneouslylike anticipate the judgment of
other people.

(08:30):
So that means the vocabulary,using that judgment matters.
So for instance, like if I'mgonna.
Post something that I know mightget judged by some people,
right?
Like if as a culture, as asociety we can change the
vocabulary that is used in thatjudgment, then that makes me
doing that kind of more likeapproachable, if that makes

(08:51):
sense.
Like if I know people are gonnasay, Oh that's interesting,
maybe I wanna learn more aboutit, or ask him more about it, or
I don't find that interesting,like, I'm gonna unfollow, that's
fine, right?
Like, that's much better thanwhy would I listen to him?
Or like, what do I have to learnfrom that person?
Or she's crazy, or like, that'sstupid.

(09:13):
You know, things like that holda lot of people back from
sharing things because of thevocabulary that's used in that
judgment.
So, you know, I think when we'relike in our circles of our
friends and we hear them likesay things a certain way about
other people or what, you know,other people are doing, I think
it's important to like call yourfriends out on that in terms of,
you know, the words they'reusing to describe things.

(09:34):
And I think it's.
Far better to just say, That'sinteresting, you know, than,
that's weird.
Or, you know, that's crazy.
You know, like you don't have tolabel things so harshly.
Um, cuz at the end of the day,like everyone's just doing their
best and trying to share likewhat they feel is important to
share.
So I feel like if you don't havethe right friend group, you can

(09:55):
be like really hard and judgeytowards other people.
Especially like people that yougrow up with and you know, they
see you doing better than them.
Like, for example, I'm from likeTravis.
Um, I think your businesspartner, we'll get into that,
but I think your businesspartner went to Lake Travis High
School also.
So I grew up in a very, like,very small community.

(10:18):
Okay.
So like when people start doingbetter than others in that
community, I feel like there'slike this animosity towards each
other almost sometimes.
Yeah.
Um, and that's what's hard whereno matter where you're from,
right?
Like if people see you doingbetter than them and they've
known you, Their whole lives.
They're like, you know, why isAustin have that?
Why do I not have that?

(10:38):
You know?
Yeah, no, for sure.
I mean, I think there's like asaying on that about, I don't
know, people coming from thesame place and like reaching
different heights and thosepeople that are still in that
place kind of tend to judgethose people.
But I don't know.
It's, it's interesting.

(10:58):
I, I have a lot of thoughts onthat, like just from where I'm
from and friends that I grew upwith that are still in that
place and haven't left.
And, you know, I, I think it'simportant to, from my
experience, leave your hometown,like experience the world and
gives you a differentperspective and it pushes you
outside of your comfort zone andyour, you know, boundaries a

(11:22):
bit.
And I think that helps you growas a young adult and kind of
shapes who you become.
But I don't know, there's, uh,there's a lot of people that
have dreams and.
Ideas that are, you know, great.
But most people aren't obsessedwith their goals because they
don't believe they're worthy ofthem.

(11:43):
Yeah.
And like, Wow, that's profound.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
That's something that say whatyou want about me, call me
cocky, call me, whatever.
But like I believe I'm worthy ofwhere I'm going.
And like that's something that Ialways remind myself of and like
I've never doubted that.
Yeah.
I mean, you're a busy guy.
You're hard to get ahold of.

(12:04):
I had to drag you into thispodcast studio I mean, if you're
not working on your brands,you're working your corporate
job, you're doing shoots like.
I don't know how you're doing itall.
The reason you're on thispodcast is cuz we're in Austin.
I'm trying to keep it Austinbased.
Yeah.
But I have this feeling that youhaven't been here that long.

(12:25):
I could be wrong.
Uh, I've been here like fouryears now.
Okay.
I feel like that's like, youknow, Baby Austinite maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So let's talk about like whereyou grew up.
Cause I don't even remember likeyour hometown.
Yeah.
So I'm from Baltimore, Maryland.
Um, born and raised there.
Went to college there at JohnsHopkins.

(12:46):
And, uh, about a year afterschool, a year after graduating,
my twin sister who still liveshere, um, was living here at the
time and visited her and movedhere the next weekend and just
like, fell in love with it.
Wanted to be around her andfound a job down here in a week
and just like moved down, Beenhere since.
And it took me a while to figureout like my lane and people I

(13:10):
wanna surround myself with and,you know, Everyone goes through
that, but I've been, uh, veryfortunate to meet some great
people here and build some greatfriendships and build a great
network that helps me do whatI'm doing now.
So, you know, Austin's a good,good spot and probably forever
home for me, but yeah, theremight be a few pit stops in

(13:32):
between.
We'll see.
Right?
Yeah.
No, I love Austin.
It's special.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, um, just trying to thinkabout, talking about Wavy
Dreamer.
Mm-hmm.
right?
Which is what the alias you wereusing to write under mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Um, what type of things were youwriting about?
Because I know you openly talkabout going to therapy mm-hmm.

(13:53):
and kind of like some of thetraumas that you've had, which I
think everyone has trauma right.
From their childhood.
Um, but you're someone.
You know, I feel like reallycreatively expressed things that
you went through by having thisblog where you could open up and
share and, I mean, it's likejournaling, like a form of self

(14:14):
care.
Yeah.
You know?
So what did those writings looklike?
Like what were you specificallywriting about?
Was it love, was it, you know?
Yeah, I mean really everything.
Um, I don't know.
I think main, mainly like selfgrowth related things, or just a
few sentences here or there,like perspective shifts on just,

(14:39):
I don't know, differentconcepts.
You know, self growth, mentalhealth, relationships, um,
friendships, family, things ofthat nature.
So it was a mix, but I mean, ifpeople are listening that
followed at the time before thataccount got hacked.
They'll kind of have a sensealready, but I'll probably get

(14:59):
back to like sharing that a bitmore than I do.
It's just, I don't really haveas much time now to like focus
on that.
And it, you know, it, I think alot of what I wrote came from
like a place of um, kind of likebrokenness and trying to piece

(15:20):
myself back together from it.
Um, so that was like heavierthoughts that led to those words
that then were shared.
And I think that's like why itmoved a lot of people and why
people would share it and whythe accountant grew as quickly
as it did.
But, um, I'm not really in thatplace anymore in my life.
Like I'm in a much better headspace and you know, much

(15:44):
healthier.
So it's just different to nowcreate from like a different
space.
Um, and I might get back tosharing like some things that
I'd shared previously, which.
Um, you, I think it's importantto also make the point that
like, I've done that and peoplewill reach out and say like, Are

(16:04):
you okay?
Oh no.
And like I could share somethingfrom the place I'm sitting today
that I wrote three years ago,and it doesn't mean I'm not okay
right now.
Like, it's important to separatethe artists from the art.
Right.
I think in a lot of senses andlike, yes, I'm fine.
I'm writing this from, I'msharing this from a different
place than I wrote it in.

(16:24):
Um, and I think a lot of artistsdo that.
You know, whether that'swriters, painters, musicians,
you know, things of that nature.
Um, but it's important toseparate the artist from the
art.
Like, I'm not always sayingsomething because it's my truth.
I'm just saying it because Ithink it is profound and it
matters and it should be shared,if that makes sense.

(16:46):
Yeah.
That's beautiful.
Yeah.
And then cuz you do talk openlythat you, I mean, I feel like
you're a more emotionally openman than most people are.
Yeah, because I know very fewguys that would even talk about
going to therapy or mention it.
And I will just say I've beengoing to therapy since I was 16,

(17:08):
so to the same therapist.
So at this point, my therapist.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
She feels like my best friendand I'll tell, I'll tell anyone
that.
Yeah.
But guys don't open up aboutthat kind of stuff unless your
guy friends.
I mean, I don't have any, um,yeah, I mean, I think, I don't
know.
I, I've had a lot of, not a lot.

(17:29):
That sounds bad.
Um, you know, girls that I spendtime with may say that like,
you're different or like, I'mattracted to you because you
have.
Some level of emotionalintelligence and you're able to
speak about those things and beopen about that, and that's
attractive.
Um, I don't know.

(17:51):
I mean, we're just not taughtthat growing up.
Like our fathers weren't,weren't taught that.
Right.
Like, you know, I don't know,trauma today, 200 years ago was
just normal life.
Yeah.
You know, like, or a hundredyears ago, or 50 years ago, like
a lot of the time things are acycle.
So, you know, our, our dadswould tell us to man up and now

(18:13):
society tells us to kind of likebreak down those walls.
And that's uncomfortable for alot of people.
Cause they weren't taught thatand that wasn't conditioned in
them from a young age.
So it's uncomfortable to do thatwork.
Um, you know, so I think it'slike, it's going against the
norm.
It's going against like societalnorms and what our friends would
tell us to do.

(18:33):
Right.
Like, can I ask you something?
Yeah.
Um, do you and your dad likehave a good relationship.
Um, better now.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it wasn't always great, but,you know, I think it's, it's
gotten a lot better recently inthe past, like half, half year,
six months.
Um, but yeah, no, I mean, thatwas like a large part of my.

(18:58):
developmental processes goingthrough some trauma in that
sense.
And I won't like speak to it toomuch.
Um, Yeah, you're very hush hushabout it, which I'm, so, I'm
always like all up in people'sbusiness and like Cassandra, you
need to respect the fact thatnot everyone wants to blurt out
their trauma like you do.
You know?
Yeah.
So, but I just think, you know,I have a lot of respect for you

(19:20):
that you like went to therapy,appreciate it, and you openly
talk about it.
I bet all the women are justswooning at you.
We've talked about that a littlebit and we'll get into that some
more.
But, um, you know, cuz youcreated this brand for yourself.
Mm-hmm.
Wavy, which was your blog, WavyDreamer.
Mm-hmm.
and now you're.

(19:43):
Going into a different outlet.
Yeah.
I'm looking at your hat and yourshirt, which people listening
aren't gonna see that.
But, um, there's some bigDreamer text and a longhorn on
your shirt.
Yeah.
Um, so how did this, uh, fashionline come about from your
writings?
Like, what was the transitionfrom like really being a writer,

(20:05):
which is a creative to nowdesigning your own clothing
line?
Um, like lot of, I don't know,there's a lot to, That might
take me a while to explaineverything Um, that, that is
like a big shift.
Yeah.
But also like, wow, that you'reexpressing all this creativity

(20:26):
through different outlets andplatforms.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Trying to, um, I mean, I startedwriting I think as a, going back
to what we were just talkingabout, you know, as a young man,
former athlete in college, like.
And the circles that I ran in,like, you know, were told to, to

(20:47):
man up or not talk about certainthings.
And you know, I thinkacknowledging like, I don't
know, it's, it's important tonotice your emotions.
Like let them come and go andsit with them.
And when you do that you canlearn from them.
But, you know, as people ingeneral aren't really taught to
do that, um, you know, I thinksociety sometimes like has this

(21:12):
rigid view that forces likepositivity on people and doesn't
necessarily teach us how to dealwith things as they are.
It teaches you how to deal withthings as you wish them to be.
Um, and it's interesting tolike, you know, learn from every
emotion and notice that like youare not your emotions.

(21:33):
Like you're just noticing them,right?
They come and go like anythingelse.
So for me, like writing was alot about that and.
Speaking to my younger self andspeaking to other like young men
out there, because I strugglewith mental health for a long
time, and I know that I'm notthe only person that struggle
with it.
And there's a lot of people thatlike suffer in silence.
That's why men are four timesmore likely to commit suicide

(21:56):
than women at this point, whichis a crazy statistic.
But I think it's just switching,like the association between
weakness and vulnerability.
Like, I think growing up we'retaught that if you show emotion
or if you share something thatyou're struggling with, like you
are weak.
But I, I think like showingvulnerability is a form of

(22:16):
courage and you can't convinceme that like anyone's
invulnerable, everyone isvulnerable.
Right?
Whether.
man, woman or whatever inbetween nowadays, Right.
Like there's, I think somepeople hide it better than
others for sure.
And it's, you know, it's easywith like social media, like
behind the squares to make itlook like your life's perfect.

(22:38):
So, you know, I mean like I'vestruggled with my own mental
health issues and you sure ishow I wouldn't know mm-hmm.
you know, if you were followingme on social media.
Yeah.
You know, so it's crazy.
Yeah.
That was part of why I wouldshare that, you know, started
that account too, is just toshow, you know, I don't know,
social media isn't real.
Right?

(22:59):
Like what you just said.
There's a lot more to me and mylife and everyone and in their
life that people can't see.
Um, so it's kind of likebreaking that stigma a bit when
you get a little bit more realand show like the more vulner
vulnerable parts of yourself andyour life in that form.
And it's not to like, Gainattention.

(23:21):
Right?
Like that's never, I don't thinkthat's why I did it or do those
things.
And I don't think that's whymost people who do that do it.
I think it's just to reach otherpeople and help them feel less
alone.
Right.
And that's like all I was tryingto do is help other people feel
less alone in their thoughts andat least feel like they had
someone there with them thatexperience the same things.
Because I think when you connectwith that, obviously you feel

(23:45):
less alone and you feel, youknow, like you have a chance
Right.
In, in some sense.
And, um, you know, I think youcan be a source of inspiration
for a lot of people if you dothat in au in an authentic way.
Um, can I ask you like Yeah.
When you say that you struggledwith mental health mm-hmm.

(24:06):
what did that like look like foryou?
Um, yeah, so I was diagnosedwith depression and anxiety
disorder and uh, dissociativedisorder.
So, Wow.
You see, I, you just gave me waymore than I even thought you
were gonna give, Give me Reallyopened up.
Yeah.
So, um, the dissociativedisorder was more from, it's

(24:28):
like dissociating with reality,which is kind of like a learned
behavior from, at least in myexperience, from my childhood
trauma.
And in those moments,dissociating from reality and
like going to this place in myhead where you kind of like
convince yourself that you'renot experiencing it.
So growing up, I was alwaystold, like in school, that I

(24:51):
would just space out and likepeople would wonder if I was
there, if I paid attention or ifI thought I was too cool for
school.
Like, things like that.
But, You don't realize like whatyou're going through until you
realize it at a certain age,Right?
Like someone tells you, I'msurprised they weren't trying to
like diagnose you, add and giveyou Adderall.
No.
Yeah, I was never, Yeah, I don'tknow.

(25:13):
Adderall might help take myenergy up a little bit.
but, um, but no, um, yeah, no, Istruggle with that for a while
and was on medication for it.
Um, was in like talk therapy,group therapy and I started
running a lot, which helpedquite a bit, just like clear my

(25:33):
mind and writing as well.
But yeah, I mean, I think, Idon't know, everyone struggles
with with something, right?
Like I think it's important tofind what works for you and
there's no like one size fitsall answer.
It's, you know, I wouldencourage people to try
different things if they arestruggling with something and if
you don't, it doesn't work foryou, then don't force it.
Like find what works for you.

(25:54):
Could be a combination of.
A diff, you know, a bunch ofdifferent things or just one
thing, right?
Like it just is up to thatperson.
But, um, yeah, back to yourearlier question about
transitioning from writing intofashion, I think I just wanted
to kind of break that stigma abit and help people feel less

(26:16):
alone.
And then once I did that, youknow, I started thinking about
how I can turn, like, you know,I think your passion is for you.
Your purpose is for otherpeople.
Or your purpose is when you useyour passion to impact other
people.
And I've always been passionateabout creating something.
And I think it's just like thisshift that occurred where I

(26:38):
would like scroll on Instagramwhen I was in a dark place and
just be like, That's inspiring,That's inspiring, that's
inspiring, that's inspiring, butnever actually do anything about
it.
Right?
And then it was just this shiftof becoming a producer, not a
consumer.
And once I did that, it helpedme.
A lot because you feel likeyou're contributing something to
the world.

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And I've talked about friends ofmine, talked to friends of mine
about this who are artists andwhen they feel a lot more like
themselves when they go paint ona canvas, right?
And like guys that I'll talk toabout this, close friends of
mine.
And it's interesting that likeit doesn't matter what it is.
It doesn't matter if it'srecognized, it doesn't matter if

(27:18):
it sells for a lot of money orit doesn't like, it matters
because it matters to you.
And if you're creating it fromthat like place of authenticity
and you're giving something tothe world in that way, it
fulfills you at least a littlebit.
And I think it helps a lot ofpeople continue, like, you know,
continue forward and, and tokeep going maybe in a way that

(27:39):
this does for you.
But yeah.
You know, I think that'simportant and I was just always
trying to encourage that.
Um, I think that's like aimportant point that you brought
up, cuz I know for mepersonally, I got caught up in
this scroll of Instagram for alittle while and it was like
right after my breakup.

(28:00):
Cuz then I just felt like I hadall this like, time.
Yeah.
And what am I gonna, I just satthere scrolling on Instagram.
Yeah.
And there's something about thatwhere when you're sitting there
and you're watching all theselike motivational reels and
videos, like I feel like itfeels like you're doing
something good for yourself,right?
Like, you're like, oh, I'm justlike motivating myself or you

(28:21):
know, putting that fire.
But it's like if you're justsitting there and not acting on
your dreams or putting anypurpose behind it, it's like,
what's the fucking point?
You know?
Yeah.
I mean it takes courage.
It takes some push I think attimes.
Or some validation.
I know I got that like.
In the beginning of my journeywhen I started sharing what I

(28:44):
would write.
And that definitely helps.
And I'm sure people say nicethings to you about episodes
they've listened to and thathelps you keep going.
So it's important to get thattoo.
But no, they talk shit.
Austin.
I'm just kidding.
Oh no, I hope not.
Hopefully not.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know,it's, you know, it takes courage

(29:05):
to go like create something anddo something different than what
your peers are doing and whatsociety would expect you to do
or your parents would expect youto do.
You know?
And just to be who you are.
Yeah.
I think that's the mostempowering thing you can do, is
to trust that and trust your gutcuz it's not gonna lie to you.

(29:26):
Like if it's pushing you in onedirection, it's probably,
there's probably a reason forthat.
Um, So now you're like pushingthis fashion direction.
Yeah, I know you're pushing it.
Very much so.
Cuz you're always busy with it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is amazing.
And um, I did like apre-interview with you a few
weeks ago where we like met andjust kind of sat and had a drink

(29:49):
mm-hmm.
And you were telling me you werelike, Cas, I've got some like
big things coming up.
Mm-hmm.
then I get on Instagram and Isee a fucking Longhorn logo with
your shirt.
I'm like, how did, how did yourbrand get this?
Mm-hmm.
like, this is huge.
Yeah.
You know, and I'm not even gonnamention the Longhorn.
I'm gonna let you talk aboutthat.

(30:09):
Yeah, yeah.
Because I didn't even know thatwas coming and that was maybe
two, three weeks ago.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So I never actually answeredyour earlier question, but after
the account got hacked that Iwrote under and I always like
wanted to kind of start, No, Ididn't always want to, but like
around that time I sort ofwanted to start like thinking

(30:31):
about turning it into a brand.
So, Transition to the name,House of Dreamer, kind of more
like fashion based, like a lotof fashion houses or House of
Gucci, House of Chanel, House ofDreamer, whatever it is.
Like more all encompassing andand welcoming.
And Wavy Dreamer was just analias and not a name of a brand.

(30:52):
So started that, sold some, sometrucker hats and noticed like
how people gravitated towardsthose and sold out of those
pretty quickly.
And um, I saw how often peoplewould wear it or post it and it
was really cool to see.
And then from there I was like,How can I do more with this?
And um, you know, how can I alsoinclude some sort of purpose in

(31:16):
this?
So the next step in that wascreating a foundation, which is
our nonprofit, the DreamerFoundation, and kind of having
that as the backbone of thebrand and the purpose behind it.
And, If you look on theInstagram, it says Purpose
driven American luxury.

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I like streetwear, I like, youknow, luxury brands, Um, luxury
sportswear, whatever you want tocall it.
That's how I dress.
And um, you know, I think wehave unique opportunity to
create a brand that puts thingsout in that lane.
You know, obviously with theDreamer or House of Dreamer

(31:57):
branding on it.
Um, but I don't know.
I just think it's that next likecreative avenue for me to
express myself and tell stories.
And all I was ever trying to dowhen I would write is tell a
story and all I think, you know,to impact people, you have to be
able to tell stories and tellthem well, And I think you can
do that through fashion andthrough collections.

(32:19):
So this UT Collection is thefirst one that we're doing.
But the meaning behind it is afew things.
We're supporting theNeighborhood Longhorn program,
so they help like theunderserved youth in and around
Austin give them savingsaccounts as they grow up and,
and fund those so that they havea chance of affording a college

(32:40):
education at some point.
They have scholarship programs.
So through our foundation, we'regonna be sending a kid from
their program to the Universityof Texas for a year, room and
board, um, and then alsodonating a percentage of profit
from this, this drop, um, totheir foundation as well.
But that's kind of the intentionthat we'll follow on a quarterly

(33:03):
basis.
So like the middle month ofevery quarter, we're gonna put
out signature capsules.
We'll call'em like dreamercapsules.
The idea behind that is each onetells a different story.
So the one following this iscalled No More Heartbreaks.
And it's like two hearts withthe word dreamer in it.
Um, kind of connected, but thatwill support Child Help, which

(33:26):
is an organization that helpskids transition from abuse and
abandoned situations into fostercare.
Wow.
And they need backpacks becausea lot of those kids carry around
their stuff in trash bags.
So it's obviously nicer to havea backpack to put your things.
We're gonna do that for them.
And, um, and then each time,like I have probably 10, 12

(33:47):
collections lined up for thenext few years on a quarterly
basis that will roll out andjust find unique ways to tell a
story in, in subtle ways.
So like for this one Texas, um,which people listening can't
see, but in the design there'ssix stars.
So it's like a nod to the stateof Texas, Texas at um, Different

(34:08):
points was a part of sixdifferent countries.
So I have six flags.
It's called Six Flags.
Wow.
Um, obviously the Longhorn forthe University of Texas and Bevo
their mascot.
And then it says, I love thisgame right here.
And for our shoot and thecontent that we'll release
shortly, we shot a lot ofathletes in this.
Um, you know, it's kind of likethat luxury sportswear,

(34:30):
streetwear type vibe, but themeaning behind that is that life
is a game of self-awareness.
Um, so it's like a doublemeaning in terms of, you know,
obviously they love the sportthat they play and they love
that game.
But I think if we all embracethat, like love of this game of
self-awareness that we playevery day makes our lives a lot

(34:51):
better.
Um, and our lives will get a lotbetter when we do that.
At least in my experience.
Mine has.
And it's kind of like the subtlemeaning behind that.
Um, and then there's a differentdesign on the back.
But yeah, in the tag it says,uh, Something I wrote, which is,
and despite it all, I move withlove in the direction of my

(35:12):
dreams.
It's kind of like the meaningbehind the brand.
That'll probably be on every tagmoving forward.
Um, but yeah, that's, that'sreally it.
So, So when was out, when wasHouse of Dreamer established?
Uh, just like a few months ago.
A few months ago?
Yeah.
And then you're talking aboutall these drops that you guys
are gonna have.
Mm-hmm.

(35:32):
Um, how many drops have you hadso far?
Or has it just been the hatsthat you've dropped?
Just one.
Yeah, we did anothercollaboration, but we didn't
actually drop those.
They just sold out, uh, damnwithout ever selling.
You're like, we didn't even haveto drop people just bought it
all.
Yeah, that was, that was just asmaller collaboration with an

(35:52):
eSports company here in Austin.
But, um, yeah, I mean, I thinkwe have a good, uh, you know, I
think we've been veryintentional about like the
foundation that we're settingand the purpose that we're
trying to create from.
So, I think with that and withthe creativity that I have and
the ideas and the ways to tellthose stories, I think we have a

(36:14):
very unique opportunity to dosomething different.
Like, I don't want to dosomething that's already been
done, and there's a lot ofbrands that'll donate 10% of
profit from a collection to anorganization, but that's more of
a tax write off than a purposebehind the creation of
something.
Um, so for us, it, it startswith that.
And, you know, I think I'll doit in subtle ways and, you know,

(36:38):
I don't wanna position ourselvesas like this brand that just
throws on these like, loudstatements that are tied to
certain causes.
So, you know, for me it's morelike subtle, incorporating that
into our designs and, and thenjust telling the story in a
unique way and, um, Yeah, seeinghow it goes, how can people like

(36:59):
get your stuff when it dropsbecause it sounds like it's
selling out so fast.
And then I know that you guys atone point had hats at the
collective.
Mm-hmm.
a gym here in town.
I don't know if you still havemerch there.
Yeah.
So like where can people, cuzyou know they're gonna wanna get
the merge.
Yeah, yeah.
No, but it sounds like it'sgoing so fast.
So yeah, we, I mean, everythingat first is more limited

(37:21):
quantities, more exclusive.
But yeah, they were selling hatsin Connect, which is a store in
the front of Collective that'snow moving to South Congress,
right.
By pers so they're gonna havelike luxury designer brands and
then resell sneakers and wear inthere.
So all our stuff will be there.
Um, I'm actually helping themlike pick out their designer

(37:42):
pieces for that store.
But the hats in there are soldout.
Hats online sold out.
So we have really nothing ininventory right now until we
drop.
This collection will, which willbe soon.
Um, yeah.
Do we, do we have the drop dateor is that still like a secret?
No, I'm, Yeah, that's, You'relike, No, that's still a secret.
Uh, it'll be this month, butit's still a secret.

(38:02):
You'll know soon, but now we'llprobably almost sell out before
we even drop this, just from ourearly access that we'll send.
So, um, are people like shoppingoff like your Instagram or do
you guys have like an e-commercewebsite?
People can buy stuff?
Yeah.
No, we're, uh, our website'sbeing recreated right now.

(38:23):
It'll be ready probably end ofthis week, early next week.
But, um, it's built on Shopify.
Okay.
So yeah, people check outthrough Shopify, but, um, I
guess your Instagram is wherethey, they gotta stay.
Yeah, Yeah.
Keeping up with everything sothey know when the drops are
happening.
Yeah.
We have some announcementscoming soon around that Dreamers

(38:44):
Club, which is gonna be thatmore like exclusive access,
early access, discounts.
Um, some other cool things thatwe're including in that, like
mystery boxes and out of themonth club type stuff.
So there's a lot to come and alot that'll be announced on
social soon.
But yeah, I mean, we do a, we'revery like, strategic about it,

(39:05):
so, you know, we'll, we'll giftcertain people different pieces
and, you know, through our, ournetwork, Get it.
Pro athletes, influencers,things of that nature.
So it's important when you'rebuilding a brand to do that.
Also, I feel like the collectivehere in Austin reminds me of
like the new age on it.
Mm-hmm.

(39:26):
which I don't know if you'refamiliar with on it.
No, I don't know.
Does the collective have likesome cult like following going
on no's too?
Because I, I think that No, butI feel like it's just like all
these like entrepreneurs andathletes and, I mean, you're
there a lot, like almost everyday working out, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Not working out as much as Ishould, but working from there.

(39:47):
Cause there's a co-workingspace.
Yeah.
So I work from there a lot.
But, um, no, it's not a cult.
I mean, it's a really like,unique community of talented
individuals that a lot of peopleare doing different things, but
very cool things in their space,in their lane.
And it's just cool to be around.
Like there's, there's thisperception of like, exclusivity

(40:09):
to it, but anyone can go signup.
Right?
Like, how much is a membership?
Um, I think it's 400 a monthnow.
Yeah.
Oh, that's a lot.
I joined as a founding member.
I able to expense it as wellthrough work, but yeah, find a
way to expense it through work.
I think it's changed my lifejust from being there, the
connections I've made and Iwouldn't be able to do what I'm

(40:31):
doing now at the level I'm doingit without that.
So I would encourage anyone,wherever you are, if you want to
elevate your life, then elevatethe people you surround yourself
with and that you learn fromevery day and that you're
around.
One of the best places to dothat is like a higher end gym
cuz a lot of people that valuethat, like lifestyle and

(40:52):
consistency and a routine andhealth and fitness probably
translates to other parts oftheir life too and what they're
doing.
But Collective is a very uniquespace for that and I'm grateful
that.
Joined when I, when I did as afounding member, like over a
year ago.
Okay.
Austin Yeah.
It's been good.
But no, it's, it's a very cool,very cool spot.

(41:13):
Like a lot of dope people justdoing dope shit.
Yeah.
I mean that's what's interestingtoo is Austin has such an
incredible network of people,but you're not gonna meet people
that you wanna collaborate withso much at like, Beauford on
Westex.
Yeah.
Like you might, but there'scertain rooms that if you put
yourself in them, like SohoHouse, the collective Yeah.

(41:35):
Um, you're gonna meet morelike-minded people.
Yeah.
Um, even like Kail, I thinkthat's how you say his name,
son.
Life Organics.
Mm-hmm.
I'm a huge fan of his, Listen tolike a ton of podcasts he's
done.
He works out at the collective.
Yep.
I him all the time.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would just go in there and fangirl Really, I just, I think,

(41:56):
you know, some of the, somepeople as entrepreneurs just
have really inspiring stories.
Mm-hmm.
you know, and the fact that youhave your merch being sold at
this gym where there's highvalue people, it's fucking
badass.
Yeah, yeah.
No, yeah.
I've been very fortunate to justhave the opportunity to walk

(42:17):
through those walls and meet thepeople I've met.
And, you know, they're just verygenerous too with, you know, the
access that they can provide totheir networks.
And, you know, I think whenyou're, when you're around
people like that, they werepeople that helped them get to
where they are.
So they wanna be that for likeme or the next kid, or whoever
it is.

(42:37):
Right.
So, you know, there's a, there'ssomething to be said about that,
and hopefully at some point Ican be that for someone else.
Um, but yeah.
Yeah.
Um, like what type of athletesare wearing your.
Merch right now too, because Ifeel like, I mean, the athletes,
especially when they're going togames, like their style is like

(42:59):
on fucking par, you know?
So those are the people you wantyour stuff to be on.
Yeah.
Um, yeah, I mean from the NFLElite Week, they had at
Collective couple months, a fewmonths ago, um, a lot of those
NFL guys that were in therebought hats in the store, couple
NBA guys.
Um, one was really cool whenlike John Morant was working out

(43:23):
there and he bought a hat.
He went in the store and spent15 grand on his friends and his
family that were with him.
And he bought two things.
One was a hat of ours and a pairof Mary jeans.
Um, but just like he was someonethat I look up to.
It's weird cuz he's younger thanme, but, um, look up to in the
sense of like a few years agowhen they played in the bubble,

(43:47):
He talked, he like openly talkedabout his mental health and his
struggle with it.
And that was like during a timewhere I was struggling with it
too significantly.
So I always like sense hadlooked to him as like one of my
favorite players in the nba.
So for him to like walk in thereand buy something that I created
was a adult moment for me.

(44:07):
And very, uh, I don't know, Istill haven't seen a photograph
of him wearing it, so hopefullyhe rocks it to a game.
But he's got, he never wearshats cause he just has like
crazy dreads.
So I don't know.
But That's awesome.
It's dope.
Yeah.
Cause you're trying to takeDreamer to like very high end
fashion.
Mm-hmm.
from, Yeah, I mean still likeaffordable luxury, Not like too,

(44:28):
too high end where people can'tafford it.
But each collection will havesomething that someone can
afford.
And then we're gonna do, uh,probably announce it next year,
beginning of the year, but, uh,Dreamer Vintage also.
Oh cool.
So like thrifted and vintageitems.
And that'll be dope cuz that'll.
It'd be very unique in likecurated collections that

(44:50):
everyone can afford.
And then in each like signaturecollection, we'll still have
pieces that like everyone intheory should be able to afford.
But yeah, we'll have someexpensive items too.
Like what's like your, uh, pricerange right now and you're
talking to like a forever 21girl going on 27, you know, like
what's the, like, can peoplelike walk in and buy something

(45:13):
from the Dreamer collection forlike under$150?
Oh yeah, for sure.
No, the original like truckerhats that we made, we sold them
online for less, but in thestore here in Austin, they sold
them for 85 bucks.
Um, This hat will be 65 and thisshirt will be$83.
Reason behind that is that UTwas founded in 1883, so Ah, that

(45:37):
is so fucking cool.
Shirts 83 and then 83 minus 18is 65.
Yeah.
The way you tie everything intogether is so cool.
Even like the Six Flags withTexas.
Yeah, yeah.
Like I wouldn't have put two andtwo together, but it's awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just, I always say this and Ithink sometimes it sounds like a
cool thing to say, but um, it'slike everything I do as a

(46:00):
purpose.
Yeah.
And like I live that and, andtry to in everything that I
would create so very detailoriented and specific about
everything, which might drivesome people crazy that I work
with, but that's funny.
Um, Yeah.
No, I mean, I think you have tobe like, it's important because.
It details ultimately are whatseparates you, right.

(46:23):
From competition and others inthe space that are trying to do
something similar.
So it's, it's a lot of attentionto detail in every aspect.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, what does your dating lifelook like right now?
I have to ask because you'rebuilding really like your own
fashion house, right?

(46:43):
Your own fashion empire.
Um, and I know how much time anddedication you're putting into
it.
Yeah.
And you know, I know what typeof person you are and I'm kind
of thinking that you'd be, youknow, you're someone that's
building an empire and wouldhave someone by their side
Right.
With the same kind of mindset ofYeah.

(47:04):
Going after their goals andbuilding something together.
So is that tough because Yeah.
You know, you're on your ownjourney right now.
So are you still open to dating?
Are you just so focused onDreamer?
Um, Because I have girls in mydms too, just so you know, when
they found out you were comingon the podcast, they were like,

(47:26):
How do you get all these hotguys on there?
And I was like, I don't know.
Nah.
Um, I appreciate that complimentfrom them.
But, um, I don't know.
I mean, I'm trying to figure itout.
Like I've been single for alittle while now after a long
term relationship.
And it's interesting to like,get back into dating and kind of

(47:51):
come from that place that I wasin and now reassess and like
determine what I want, um, justfrom my experience prior, which
we can touch on.
But, um, yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I said this to someonethe other day.
Yeah, I'm in a place where Ivalue my routine.
I value my friendships andspending time with my friends.

(48:14):
And, you know, the time that Ido have outside of how much time
I spend on my nine to five job,and then on this, which is
pretty much 24 7, I wanna spendit with friends and like people
that I want to, you know, havein my corner and I wanna be in
their corner too.
So I try to make that the focuswhen I do have free time.

(48:35):
But yeah, I mean, dating'sinteresting.
I do, uh, in a, from laughing ina humble way.
I, I've heard this before, soI'm Yeah.
I mean, there's certainlyinterests, but I don't know.
It takes someone very special tomake me change my routine.

(48:56):
And, you know, I, I would wantthat person to be as independent
and as committed to whatever itis they're doing.
It doesn't matter what scaleit's on, but.
Have passion for it and have apurpose and, you know, I think
that's important for, for me andsomeone that I would be with.
So, I dunno, trying to figureout what I'm looking for.

(49:17):
But yeah, I would just takesomeone super special to make me
change my mind on that.
I think I blew off a datetonight, to come here.
So, um, yeah, it's, you know, itsounds, it's interesting when
I've talked to you, it soundslike you almost have like too
many women coming at you.
Like, I don't even know if youneed to use dating apps.
I don't know if you're on there.

(49:37):
No.
Yeah.
I, I deleted dating apps.
Yeah.
Not anymore.
Um, I mean, I think, I don'tknow, dating apps aren't a bad
place to meet people.
I, I think also it's importantto voice like your intention
when if you are on a dating app,you know, like if you are

(49:58):
intentional about dating, makethat clear.
If you are.
Not intentional about dating andyou want other things to make
that clear.
And there's nothing wrong withthat.
People are at different pointsin their life and they can want
different things, and thatdoesn't mean they're a fuck boy
or a fuck girl or whatever.
It just means they're figuringit out.
And I think where people getconfused is like, if that's not

(50:19):
communicated.
So I don't know.
I try to do that.
But yeah, I don't know.
I mean there's, I'm very picky.
I don't really like that.
what's your type?
My type?
Do you have a type?
Not physically, no.
I mean, I think being attractedto someone is important, but

(50:40):
that's not what a relationshipis gonna last on.
You know, I think for me,emotional intelligence and
connection is important andintellectual stimulation and you
know, I just want a best friend.
I value companionship.
I know I want a family.
I know I want to build that andbuild it.

(51:01):
You know, whenever that happens,I'm not in a rush, but just want
a best friend to kick it withand like have a good time
someone who's cool and you know,creative and can, you know, bump
the new Drake album in the carwith me and like whatever it is,
like someone who's probablyfashionable.
Um, you know, but again, hasthat like sense of independence

(51:23):
and is okay with giving me thattoo and trusting me in that.
And I think that's hard to donowadays, especially when
everything is accessible toeveryone.
So, you know, I think whereverthis takes me and this brand
takes me, it might take me onthe road and on planes across

(51:43):
oceans at times in the future.
And like there's not a lot ofpeople that may be okay with
that or you know, things likethat.
So it's hard to find people withenough confidence to.
Trust in that nowadays.
Um, but yeah, it's interestingtrying to figure it out.
Yeah, that makes sense.

(52:03):
It's, it's hard dating.
Yeah.
In 2022, I'm not even gonna lie.
And I know at one point you wereengaged.
Mm-hmm.
So you've gotten further than Ihave at dating, you know, Yeah.
Um, and actually this is reallyfunny cuz I accidentally
followed her on Instagram.
Yeah.
I had no idea.
It was like your ex fiance.

(52:25):
Yeah.
And I was like, wow.
What a small world A and b Ihope he doesn't think I like, am
stalking his entire life.
No, that's fine.
Yeah.
That was funny.
Yeah, that was funny.
Yeah.
It's all coincidence.
But, um, yeah.
You know, being engaged, Idon't, I never been engaged

(52:47):
Yeah.
It's not that much differentthan dating just with the
expectation of a.
Um, commitment for life, whichyou know, you know, makes you
think a little differently onceyou're in that.
But yeah, I mean, I don't know.
It was, I learned a lot from it.
I think maybe it was a bitrushed and, um, I don't regret

(53:13):
that.
I don't think anyone shouldregret something they once
wanted.
So I don't look back at it withregret.
I look back at it valuing theexperiences that I shared with
her.
And I always value that and, andhold that like in a special
place in my heart because it didmean a lot to me and she meant a

(53:33):
lot to me and like I did to her.
So it was like a, you know, alevel of respect as you move on
from, from something of course.
But it still means something.
It always will.
Um, but it just wasn't myperson.
And, you know, I kind ofrealized that, and it was a hard
decision, but.
Better to make it prior thanafter.
Yeah.

(53:54):
And you know, it hurts to hurtsomeone, but I'm in a place now
where I'm much happier and she'sin a place where she's much
happier and, um, you know, I'mreally happy for her and, and
where she's at in her life.
So we don't really communicate,but from afar, like I know she's
doing well and, you know,support from a distance, but

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life is interesting.
Things happen and, you know, younever think that it would happen
to you until it does.
And then like you realize someof the things your parents told
you when you were younger, likethey were right.
you know, like there's a lot oflevels to life and like, as you
experience different things, itbrings new perspectives and can

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shift your mindset on a lot ofthings and the way you look at
life.
And it's cool to experiencethat.
Like, it's weird saying thatlike, I went through an
engagement and broke it off andnow I look at it with the
perspective of like what Ilearned from that is cool and
it's gonna help me like movingforward in my life.
But I think it's just all abouthow you label things and look at

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things like all our, all ourbrains do every day is just
create and destroy meaning forthe things that we label.
And if I looked at that and waslike, I look at that with regret
or as trauma or whatever, thenit's gonna carry a certain
weight and that's gonna bedifficult to let go of.
But if I look at it with likerespect and you know, um, some

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sense of gratitude for theexperience that I had and what
it taught me, then that makes mylife moving forward a lot.
I think easier in some sensecause I'm not holding onto that.
It sounds like you really livein the present.
Um, try to, but what I will say,what is really refreshing
listening to you talk about yourpast is how amicable you are

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talking about your ex and howyou never say anything rude or
mean about her.
I just hear nothing but kindthoughts from you, um, and like
wishing her the best.
And I just think that's likeprofound going into your next
relationship, you know?
Yeah.
Because it says a lot about whatyou're saying about your ex

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going into, you know, anypotential new relationship.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I mean, that came withexperiences and maturity.
I don't think I would always saythings in this way about maybe
past relationships when I wasyounger, but all we can do is
improve and just try to getbetter with, you know, different

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parts of our life.
But yeah, I don't know.
notice what people say.
You're right.
Like notice what people say whenyou're dating about their exes
and Yeah.
Cause that could be you someday.
You know?
And I think it's important topay attention to how people
speak about other people andwhat they choose to share and
what they choose to keepprivate.

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And that also shows a level ofrespect for like the intimacy
that you shared with someone in,in their life.
And that's your story with them.
That's not your storynecessarily to share with
everyone.
So That's so true.
And I mean, no one's ever gonnaunderstand what you've gone
through with that person besidesthe two of you.

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Yeah.
You know, um, I guess the onlything I kind of wonder is, you
know, what kind of led y'all tofall apart, if you don't mind me
asking, because I know.
You're busy building a brand tooat the same time.
So I didn't know if, you know,that got in the way of your
relationship or if you'd alreadystarted the brand or what that

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looked like for you.
Yeah, no, I hadn't reallystarted it, um, prior to us
splitting, started it likeshortly after, um, or started
like conceptualizing it andbringing it to life shortly
after that.
But I mean, I think it was just,you know, I don't know, um, I'll

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quote her.
Uh, it was just two, two kidswho so badly wanted to feel
something and you know, I thinkwe checked a lot of boxes for
each other and rode that highfor a bit.
But then when it came down toit, like we realized our

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differences and.
relationships are hard.
They take a lot of work.
And you know, I think timing isimportant.
And when you meet people and,you know, maybe she was my
person for a period of time, butthe timing wasn't right.
You know, I think you meetpeople and you might meet them

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at the wrong time and they mightbe the perfect person for you,
and then they might be theperson that you can build
something with, but for whateverreason, the timing is off.
And I think that was part of itwith us and what she wanted to
focus on and in her career andkind of what I wanted to focus
on and the way I viewed life.
And there were just somedifferences in that aspect, but
nothing like crazy.
And, you know, I, I don't know,I, I'm not gonna say anything

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negative or or bad about her,but, you know, we all grow at
different times.
And I know I had things.
I didn't do very well in thatrelationship, that I could do
better in my next one.
And all I can do is take thatand learn from it.
And then for her, it's the samething.
And, you know, put the work inand try to become a better

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version of yourself for thatnext person.
So you can give that to them andjust learn from everything that
you, you can, you know, fromthat past experience.
But, um, yeah, I don't know.
There were just, we were atdifferent places in our life in
terms of emotional maturity and,you know, kind of what we were
looking for in a partner and inlife in that sense.

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So as we started to realizethose differences, I think we
just grew apart and it's toughand then it was hard to grow
back together.
And, you know, as much as youcan try and, you know, wanna
maybe force something at times,you also just have to be real
and realize when it's notworking or it's not meant for
you.
And I always say trust your gut.

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Um, I trust your intuition, andthat's why I would sign things
off that I used to write is XOwavy.
And I think like we live inthings in ways of consciousness,
and that was kind of the meaningbehind that.
But like that is your intuitionand it's gonna guide you in your
truest direction.
So trust it and follow it.

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And I could just feel that likesomething was off inside me and
it was like I was trying toforce something that wasn't
meant for me.
And as soon as I ended it, Ifelt like such a relief and like
a weight off my shoulders.
Like I could be who I wanted tobe and you know, be free to
create that and create the lifethat I wanted.
And not that like she was notsaying she was controlling or

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anything like that, but it'sjust a difference of opinion in
the way that life should lookand all of that.
So that was really it.
I won't get into too much moredetail.
Yeah, it, it sounds like it wasjust a very young relationship
too, you know, which sometimes Ithink those are so beautiful cuz
it's like that young love.

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Yeah.
And sometimes it kind of goes toshit because you're just, you're
just young.
Like there's still things youneed to work on yourself, the
other person needs to work on.
Like you're still figuringyourself out.
Yeah.
And I think Mgk said the otherday that he felt like he was
Peter Pan just stringing alongWendy and I, I don't know why,

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but I love that he said thatthat's, you know, cuz it's kind
of what I think those youngrelationships look like.
It's like, Yeah, never wannagrow up kind of Yeah.
Thing.
Yeah.
But yeah, I mean there's a, Idon't know, it's hard to find
good people that you canactually have that with.
So I think there's some aspectof like, when you find that you

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feel like almost forced to rushit so you can like.
Lock it down, you know?
I don't know.
I mean, it is hard to findpeople that are loyal and
committed and, you know, have a,a good foundation when it comes
to their career, their finances,things of that nature.
So when you find it, maybe youfeel a little rushed.

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And I know I felt that, but Idon't know.
Just something to learn from andgrow from.
That's all.
Yeah.
Hey, you put a ring on it.
That's more than a lot of men inAustin would do.
Yeah.
So the fact that you're likeopen to commitment and like
finding that person and yourpartner is awesome, you know?

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Yeah.
And I think you'll have that,Like, I can only see you just
like building this empire andhaving someone like right by
your side, you know?
Hopefully.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want that.
Yeah.
It's like a power couple, youknow?
That'd be nice.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't, I don't know, Ijust.
It doesn't matter the, like Isaid, the scale of what someone

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does something at, like, as longas they have a passion for it, I
think that is attractive.
And it doesn't matter if you'remaking bracelets that you go
sell on the street for$2 and yousell 10 of them in a year.
Like if you love it and itbrings you joy and fulfillment,
then it's ultimately gonna bringmore fulfillment and joy to your

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relationship.
So just try to look for that inpeople and you know, hopefully
find it.
Yeah, it's like that self love,right?
Because if you're watering yourown self, you know, with whether
that's Dreamer or a podcastmm-hmm.
um, then that's like when I feellike you get in those

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relationships that really work.
Yeah.
You know, you're putting the twoparts together and I feel like
we find people when we leastexpect it.
You know, like you're not, whenyou're planning to not get in a
relationship is when it happens,you know?
So you never know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You never know.
Yeah.
I think my only other questionfor you is what you do for fun

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in Austin.
I'm like, does Austin have anyfun in Austin?
Is the question I, Yeah, no, Ido for sure.
Um, what do I do?
Uh, I mean, I go out sometimes.
I definitely probably spent alittle too much time at so house

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in the past few months, uh,with, with my guy Ethan and some
other friends.
But, you know, I don't know,just something more chill, good
time.
I'll go out to West sixsometimes with friends, but I
don't know.
The clubs and bars get a littleoverwhelming and aggressive for
me.
I'd rather just like get a nicedinner with friends and have a

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good time in a more chill spot.
Um, But yeah, I mean, I stillfind time to have fun and have a
social life for sure.
Probably like sacrifice sleepfor that.
But it's all good.
I mean, I can only balance it tothe extent that works for me.
And I, I think I'd do that.
And I don't know, I think inyour twenties you should push

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yourself and find your limitsand find what you're capable of
and then scale back from there.
Um, you know, as otherresponsibilities come up.
But that's all I'm really tryingto do.
So I think I just focus onseeing where my limits are and
how much I can give thedifferent things.
And, you know, if I'm not notreally in it, then I'm probably

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not gonna do that.
So, um, I don't know.
Just figuring it out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think a huge part of successis consistency.
Mm-hmm.
And, I mean, you're veryconsistent with your brand.
Like you're always posting.
Yeah.
You're creating.
Um, and I think that's where alot of people fall off.

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Yeah.
You know, I was telling youearlier, I was like, I'm putting
out like one podcast a monthright now.
Yeah.
But it doesn't matter becausesometimes slow and steady Yeah.
Wins the race.
So even if you're twenties, ifyou're going a little slower or
you're not getting where youwanna be as fast, it doesn't
mean it's not gonna happen.
Mm-hmm.
um, like I said, slow and steadywins the race.

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I agree.
Yeah.
We're each on our own timelines.
You can't let other people rushyou with theirs or even rush
yourself with your ownexpectations of what you think
you're capable of, you know?
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's a, I struggle with thatsometimes, so I get that.
I hear you.
Yeah.
Well, I think House of Dreameris only.

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Just gonna continue to grow,like literally from when I met
you three weeks ago.
It's been insane.
The things Yeah.
That are happening.
So you have to give us yoursocials.
Okay.
So people know where to findyou, Where to find House of
Dreamer.
Yeah.
Um, just at House of Dreamerwithout the last E in Dreamer.

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Um, and yeah, I think soon itprobably is just gonna be at
Dreamer spelled D R E A M R, butwe're working on getting that,
uh, that handle.
So should have that soon.
And it'd be easy to find us fromthere.
Yeah.
What about your personal winejust at, are you gonna give it
out You're like, you don't haveto, I was just thinking if you

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give it out, there might be someladies sliding in your dms, so I
don't know if you wanna gothere, No, no, no.
Okay.
I probably won.
We're gonna keep, I probablywon't see the dm.
We're gonna keep it private.
Just go by merch.
And maybe you can go on a date.
there's, I mean, I'm tagged andstuff on the rampage.
You'll find me.
But, um, I don't know.

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I probably, yeah, I don't, Idon't check my dms that much.
Honestly.
there's probably a lot ofpeople.
I, I'm glad I got you on thispodcast, Yeah.
But that is so funny.
Yeah.
Well, thank you so much, Austin.
Of course.
Thank you.
This has been awesome.
Yeah, it was dope.
Thank you.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah.
Bye.
Appreciate it, Good job.
That was fun.