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March 17, 2019 159 mins

CW: Hate speech/language.

At the top of the show, I discuss the horrific Christchurch New Zealand Mosque shooting, and the white supremacist online shitposting nature of it. I revisit "The Hate Project: Episode 26" original air date March 25, 2013, which contains an insane rage-filled conversation with a white nationalist named "Loganhunter" who expresses aggrievement that white people and white countries are under attack from Jewish and non-white forces.  At one point he says that most churches are "communistic race-mixing whorehouses" which makes me question whether I should go back to church. Resident Klansman Dragon 1488 calls in, and seemingly sincerely invites me to a rally.  I do not take him up on it, but today in 2019, I wonder if I should have.  The reason for this is that I watched Deeyah Khan's doc "White Right", and her face-to-face interactions encouraged a couple of  neo-nazis to leave their hate groups.  However, I also grapple with the fact that it's not my or other people of color's job to reform racists, and it's also possible I would have just been used to give respectability to the klan. Also, Dragon simply continues to espouse his disgusting racist ideology and deflects the conversation when challenged. Also, a prank call and another call from anti-racist Patrick Hwang who again debates Dragon. I also discuss gay comedian Scott Kennedy who died in 2013.  

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References from episode:

Christchurch New Zealand Terrorist and the White Power Symbol:  https://www.thedailybeast.com/brenton-tarrant-idd-new-zealand-shooting-suspect?ref=scroll

New Zealand White Supremacist Terrorist Inspired by Trump:  https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/zealand-mosques-attack-suspect-praised-trump-manifesto-190315100143150.html

Deeyah Khan interviewing Nazis:  https://www.vox.com/world/2019/1/14/18151799/extremism-white-supremacy-jihadism-deeyah-khan

Comedian Scott Kennedy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Kennedy

Tucker Carlson White Nationalist Rhetoric: https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2019/03/11/unearthed-audio-shows-tucker-carlson-using-white-nationalist-rhetoric-and-making-racist-remarks/223105

Music:   Gnossienne no. 1 by International Surrealist Bulletinis licensed under a CC0 1.0 Universal License. Remedy for Melancholy by Kai Engel is licensed under a Attribution License

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