Patriots Pregame Show 8/25: Commanders Preview, Keys to the Game, Kenny Chesney In-Studio Interview

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Speaker 3 (00:38):
And a hearty welcome here from inside your Lette Stadium
for the Patriots Pregame Show fueled by Dunkin Donuts. Matt
Smith alongside with Mike Dus, Tamara Brown, Matt Smith in
for a hardy rob Pool and what rhymes with hardy tardy?
Oh and that would be Paul Perillo's middle name today.

Speaker 7 (00:58):
That would coming in hot else we think he'll be here,
has something important.

Speaker 8 (01:03):
So yeah, I was gonna say that was a very
hearty thing to do.

Speaker 7 (01:08):
Shots fired right away. It's a preseason game, so maybe
it wasn't going quite heavy on the gas.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Preseason everybody, right, Okay, so let's set the table. Everybody
preseason week number three. That's a weird spot I think
for the Patriots to be and if somebody who's been
here for a long time and we're usually producing the
preseason games, it's odd that a network grab the game.
It's odd that it's Sunday night at eight o'clock. Let's
move that aside. Let you know what you're thinking as
we're heading into the final preseason game. To merrill start

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with you, I.

Speaker 8 (01:36):
Was thinking odd. Wasn't the word I was gonna use?
Illegal When this came out, I went to Fred and
I was like, Fred, eight pm. Preseason games should be
illegal because by that point most teams have named their
starting quarterback, which the Commanders have, which is all we're
not going to see Jane Daniels. And also by that point,
it's a bunch of scrubs playing that are just trying
to make the roster. Not saying that's not important because

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the Patriots do need to see a lot of guys
still work today. But it's gonna be a Newt tonight.

Speaker 7 (02:01):
Not our scrubs. But now I'm excited to see everybody though,
And I mean I think it's you know, I said, Matt,
it's simple since we went to three games. It's like
everyone is lost in the wilderness of like what you know,
when we had the dress rehearsal in.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Week three, because there was something that you could kind
of hang your right. There's nothing on that anymore.

Speaker 7 (02:15):
I was watching allt of Titans today and you have
you know, Will Levis is playing, and you know, I
mean even Calvin Ridley's out there. But now you're gonna
see Washington tonight. They don't have anybody. So there's no
set formula anymore as to what these games are. And
I think for the Patriots it is a meaningful game.
You're gonna see Jacoby Brissett, You're gonna see Drake may
As Jirobmeo said, You're gonna see everybody who's pretty much
healthy are going to play. So I wouldn't anticipate a

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guy like David Andrews, but at the Patriots like a
lot of guys that are gonna go to.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
So that's an interesting philosophy by the new head coach.
What do you think about it?

Speaker 7 (02:44):
I think they need it. I think they're a new
team on a new offense with you know, a bunch
of new guys learning new things. I think the offensive line,
certainly with some of the injuries they've had with the
Darian log got banged up this week and that, you know,
kind of put some of their plans going sideways. So
I just think they were a young team. They got
a lot to learn. I don't know if all the
defensive guys need to play, but I think offensively, you
need to learn about the offensive line. You got to
learn about the quarterback.

Speaker 8 (03:04):
And I would add on that operationally, it's good for
these new DC's OC's to get comfortable on the headsets,
calling plays, hear each other's voices, et cetera. There's a
lot of new pieces, and operationally, this is a good
test for them.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah. Right, And Coach Mayo was on All Access this
past Friday and he talked about this. This is his initial
road game, and sure, we're concerned about the football part
of it, but I think he's also concerned about the operational.

Speaker 7 (03:28):
Part of it. What time does the bus get there?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Right, It's like certain things they flew into Baltimore yesterday,
that's an hour and twenty minute ride from Baltimore to
where they were staying outside of the District of Columbia,
Like those are things that they're trying to work out
their travel logistics as well to make sure are we
doing the right thing. So the whole thing just kind
of feels new.

Speaker 7 (03:45):
Yeah, it's not sexy. I mean it's you know, it's
the what time do we get to the stadium? This
is what time this bus leaves, the second bus leaves
at this time, warmus er at this time, and you know,
getting used to a different stadium and all that stuff.
So I mean it's to the players. I think it's
you know, about establishing that routine, especially some of the
the rookies. You know, like this is the first time
Drake may has gone on the road and he's going to,
you know, play in a different stadium. Where's the thirty

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second clock? You know where? You know, where are all
those different things in the different stadiums. So just a
good dry run before hey, two weeks they're going to
be in Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Tamara. I like the fact that Gerard Mayo has come
out and said, if you're healthy, you're going to play tonight.
I don't think this team is in a position to
rest people. David Andrews, we don't know what the lineups
or anything like that. Mike mentioned it earlier. It makes
sense they're so lean at center. Keep him out of
harm's way if you can in any game that doesn't count.
But everybody else, I think everybody else has something to.

Speaker 8 (04:34):
Prove, exactly. I especially the wide receivers. I think coming
into camp that was one of the groups that you
have circled, like, there's so many guys in this room.
Are they all going to make the roster? Are you
going to keep all of them? And if you're not,
who are you going to take? Because honestly, there's been
one or two guys that are step above the rest,
and the rest are kind of grouped together. So I
think when you're looking at the wide receiver room specifically,
those are ones that I'm going to want to see

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more time out of. And also the offensive one. We're
still trying to find the best five. We're still seeing
left A rotating in and out with Leyden, Robinson and City,
so so I'm hoping to see more of those kinks
worked out that we still have questions about.

Speaker 9 (05:07):
But that's just me.

Speaker 7 (05:08):
Yeah, I think just to piggyback on that, like, is
Michael when you're gonna play right tackle tonight? Because we
saw him move out to right tackle.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Is that your expectation?

Speaker 7 (05:14):
It kind of is, And I mean, I think that
signals that this isn't just a game for the Patriots
to roll out there. This is they're still really trying
to lock in on what they have. And I don't
know what Low's injury is. I think Chris Price of
the Globe reported it was an upper body injury, nothing severe.
But I think, you know, I think there's certainly a
case to be made. And you know, no offense to
Vedarian Lowe, but that a corps of four on the

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left side, Michael won you at right tackle. You mentioned
Laden Robinson who's kind of been coming on at right guard,
City's been at the left guard, and of course David
and Andrews with Nick Leverett, who was banged up a
little bit last week, came back. So I just think
they need to work. And if we're going to see
Mike on when you out there right tackle, I think
it's a real sign that he might end up there.

Speaker 8 (05:53):
And I feel like time is running out to find
that chemistry for that best five, and obviously.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
You might have already run out.

Speaker 8 (05:58):
It has and obviously you can't plan for those injury
injuries to low and you can't plan for, you know,
people to get sick and be out, but it's been
hard for them to find the best five when you
have guys like that getting hurt and then you're switching
different things like in players around. I just it's gonna
be tough to get chemistry with your best five in
two weeks.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
Yeah, it's just it's hard because you know, we heard
from Vederian Lowe last week and you know he's a
third year guy and not not highly toued. I think
he was, you know, six round pick with the Vikings,
but you know, you can see how hard he's working
and how much this means to him. And you're hearing
from Elliott Wolf that you know, we always thought that
this kid, if he could correct a couple of things,
could be at the starter level. It's hard to give

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him support, even from where I sit right now, and
I'm saying that as I want to, but when you
have a cacophony of not the concert going outside our
walls right now, but if people being like, hey stinks,
he sucks and blows, and you know what those shows
are like where you're just killing this poor kid, where
look at a perfect world. Look, and I'm not gonna
tell you that he's gonna be the next Tyrant Smith.
But what if he emerged, What if he's okay? You know,

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what if he gets to a level that that's okay
because they stuck with him. The injury, like Tamara said,
has set him back. But you know, I just there's
so much vitriol right now directed towards the offensive line.
It's it's it's hard to sit here and be like,
you know, maybe we should have some patience, Maybe we
should understand theyre trying to build something, they're trying to
find something that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
I was having a conversation with a friend of mine
in driving today. I don't think people are fans maybe
you're interested in the process anymore. They just want to
get to the result. And especially with a team like
this that clearly is building for something, you've got to
sort of you've got to live through the process. And
there's gonna be bumps along the way. There's going to
be growing pains along the way. But let's see what happens.
My goodness, I haven't even played a game that counts yet,

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you know, I.

Speaker 7 (07:37):
Know, and that's and that's like the big takeaway and
I said a little bit on Unfiltered this week, was,
you know, we watched every training camp practice and I've
you know, watched Drake May extensively now at this point,
and I know what I believe in what I've seen,
and sometimes outside these walls, it's like there's a roller
coaster going on of extremes of we shouldn't have drafted
him to he's got to start two weeks from right now.

(07:58):
I just think the bottom line for me coming out
of camp is that this kid has talent. And maybe
you can argue that they're being too conservative with him,
and I'll listen to that. That's fine, that's a you know,
reasonable argument. But to say that you know, they don't
know what they're doing or they don't have a plan,
I don't buy that at all. The kid has a
ton of talent. I think you pulled a lottery card
right now.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Now.

Speaker 7 (08:16):
Is it all gonna work out? Is he going to
be able to deliver in the clutch? Is he going
to stay healthy? All those questions that all quarterbacks have
when they come league. I don't know, but from what
I've seen over him from two months, I'm excited to
watch this kid develop and see what happens now, and
everyone just wants to stamp the gas and get him
in there next week. I don't need to.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
I don't need to.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
I'm gonna be patient with him.

Speaker 8 (08:34):
So not to compare this to a you know, stove
Fir's dinner, but it's like a stove Forer's dinner in
the sense that like you could cook this in the microwave,
but it tastes better in the offen, And.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
So everyone wants to mind the cum.

Speaker 8 (08:47):
Everyone wants microwave success, and they want to go ahead
and put Drake May out there, and they wanted them
to go back into the postseason this year. They want
it all right now, but not everything tastes good in
the microwave. I love me preferably, I'd rather wait the
forty five minutes for that dinner to cook in the oven,
then to put it in the microwave for ten minutes.
It's not gonna taste it.

Speaker 7 (09:04):
I feel like we're brining the chicken right now. They're like,
we're gonna just soak the chicken and water.

Speaker 10 (09:08):
For a night.

Speaker 7 (09:09):
Like that's what, Like that's way too long, Like I
want chicken now, but it's gonna be really tender to
trust me.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
So we want to hear from you. Eight five to five.
Pats five hundred on the phone will take your calls.
Also web radio at Patriots dot com, we do have
an emailer, John Stella. And this is a topic that
you guys started to already jump into the water with.
Do you think quarterback Drake may will win the quarterback
starting job for regular for the regular season Week one?

Speaker 11 (09:34):
No?

Speaker 7 (09:34):
No, I don't think he'll win it tonight. I don't
think he has won it. And I think they're perfectly
fine to let the first handful of games happen. And
the point I made on Unfiltered this week is they
don't even know what their offense is. You know, how
can you even know what to expect? How can you
even know you know what you're good at, what you're
bad at. I'd prefer let Jakobe get in there. Let's
see what we have, Let's see how this actually comes
together under Jacoby Brissette, because if you just put Drake

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in there immediately, you don't even know really what look
like under Jacobe, and then if you're going back to him,
it gets even crazier. So I think he's got to
be in there this year, Matt. I think he has
to be in there this year, But if it's not
for the first seven weeks or so, I'm okay with Jamara.

Speaker 8 (10:11):
So this is actually part of my key to the
game today. So I won't talk too much about this,
but I do want to see him hopefully play. You know,
after the first three games. We have a tough opening
stretch of games, including on the road in Cincinnati start
things out, and you're obviously playing on the road versus
the Jets too, So I'm not a post for him
sitting the first three games. I don't need him to

(10:31):
start week one. Is he capable of doing that? I
don't know. I like what I've seen throughout training camp,
Like Mike Duso said, he's got a lot of raw talent,
But I like what Gerrod Mayo and AVP both said,
like he needs to be able to operate the offense,
understand the issues, and win those issues arise, be able
to have the answers for them. So I think we're
still a little bit ways to go before he's ready

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mentally to be the starter.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Right before we get to the keys of the game,
I want to go back to something that Mike said,
because I again, these are some of the things that
I've been thinking about, and Mike talked about the defense.
I think there's an assumption out there from the fans
it all's great with the defense, and let's hope that
it is. They're bringing a lot of people back. My
concern is that they have never been tested this preseason,
and so they're going to their first crack as Joe

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Burrow in the Bengals in a little while. I think
that's where we're going to find out how their depth
really is. You know, do they have enough people at corner,
what about linebacker? Who's going to provide a rush and
things like that, and I don't think we've really gotten
a very accurate look at that so far through in
camp in preseason.

Speaker 8 (11:33):
I like that you bring that up, Matt, because when
it comes to Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and t Higgins,
like they're going to have to get some pressure on
the quarterback and that all starts up front, where I
think there's a lot of questions right now without Barmore,
without Jude on, what is this team going to be
able to do? Are they going to be able to
get pressure on the quarterback, and that is the only
way that they're probably going to get those takeaways. John
Jones has talked about that a lot. We're able to

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get those takeaways and force those disruptions because of what
the defense is doing up front. So that's my biggest question, Mark,
who's going to fill does voids?

Speaker 7 (12:00):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I mean, and I don't.
I don't think this is a point that many people
are really talking about for some reason.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
And you know, all the emphasis and I'm sorry for
interrupting you to hardy interrupt you know right, No, No, that's
what we do. No, So it's getting overlooked because there's
so much of an emphasis on the offensive side of them.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
No, and that's and that's and I'm, you know, a
defense guy. I love defense. But you know, Tamara mentioned
bar Moore Jude on Let's keep going though has been out,
Zimenez has been out. I mean, you're really down your
top four pass rushers right now. And I'm not sure
you know, Zimenez looks like he's coming back. We've talked
about Chase really weird summer for him. I just wonder
where the pass rush is gonna come from this year,
and I think give it out. That's what we're counting

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and right, and that's and I think that that's a
tough way to live. And I think when you look
over the last twenty years of a Belichick defenses, we know,
you know, we're in a little bit different territory now,
but that's when it's a problem. You need guys who
can win, want to want to be your best defense,
so that you know, the whole defense isn't just the
whole offensive line is just saying we'll block everybody. We don't.
You know, you need a bar Moore to say he's
a problem inside. So can And I think when we're

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watching tonight, are there some play Hello Paul Paul Perillos
here everybody, We'll be welcoming him in a minute, you know,
looking at some of these guys like a Jeremiah Farms, like,
I mean, it's it's asking a lot to ask a
guy who's been on a practice squad for two years
to go.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
In and demand that kind of attention. It's a rotational player.
And I say that with peace and love.

Speaker 7 (13:17):
Yeah, And so where's it gonna come from? You're gonna
have to scheme up, key On White. You're gonna have to,
you know, scheme up. Anthony Jennings, who you know, for
all the breakout year he had last year, not in
the pass rush department, correct, So I think that's the
biggest question for me as as a defense guy. Where's
the pass rush gonna come from?

Speaker 12 (13:31):
Right?

Speaker 3 (13:31):
So, as we welcome our compadre here in a minute,
Paul Perillo, Let's get to the keys of the game.
And I'm gonna start with you Tamara a week for
the whole teams in the locker room right now, just
listening to this, waiting to hear what you're gonna say.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
Here are the Patriots pre game socials keys to the game.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Because of the many things that I'm not gonna be do,
there's the songs, so I'm gonna blame I'm gonna blame
morel with not you know, how about just giving me
a heads up there's.

Speaker 7 (13:58):
This is definitely said it multiple times.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
There's a sure everything.

Speaker 8 (14:03):
So Matt Smith, I would just like say, just like
for jirod Mayo and his staff with the preseason games
being their dress rehearsals, this is our.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Dresser absolutely right right, greatest on Arad on a curve. Anyway,
as we're going to the keys of the game tomorrow,
let's start with you.

Speaker 13 (14:17):
Please.

Speaker 8 (14:18):
Mine is swing the door open.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I don't know what that means. I'm sorry exactly.

Speaker 8 (14:21):
That's good. That's good. I love that. I'm not giving
it away too much. My keys swing the door open
because I feel like girod Mayo and a VP of
both said Jacoby Brissette is the starter, but the door
is cracked where they say, sure, Drake may has a
chance to win the job. So I just want to
swing the door open. I don't want it to be cracked.
Either close it or open it all the way. The
starter needs to be named the competition word, throw it

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out the window, make a decision, and I hope tonight
that that when once we see Drake May, that once
we see Jacoby Brissette, we're able to swing the door
open one way or the other.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Do you expect that that decision to be made on Monday?

Speaker 14 (14:54):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (14:54):
Yeah, I mean I think they'll do the formality of
announcing Jacoby Brissette as the as the starter. But I
was I was thinking, like maybe.

Speaker 8 (15:00):
Kick the door down or that I'm just tired of
like the the ship and the well this is the starter.
Well sure, I'm just want to end.

Speaker 7 (15:12):
Yeah, let's just the starter, move on, the starter.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Ready to move on. Let's welcome our compadre, Paul. Paul,
you're doing okay?

Speaker 7 (15:18):
I am traffic?

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Uh yeah, a lot of stuff going on.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
No, no, how was it traffic?

Speaker 5 (15:23):
It was bad to get here. To get in the
stadium was fine, okay, great, but it was bad getting here.

Speaker 8 (15:28):
So the party doesn't start till Paul gets here.

Speaker 7 (15:30):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
So that's all I want. So let's hit you up
Paul with.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
Wait, what are we doing here?

Speaker 7 (15:41):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (15:41):
Just wait, See I'm young at heart, even though we're
the same age, I'm young at younger at heart than
you are. Okay, all right, we'll see about that. We
have a whole we have a whole season to determine
that stress. For me, it's about I think the specific
reason that we're seeing Jacobe Pressett at all tonight is
to find some rhythm. Offensively, they haven't really had any
all summer. I think this is one last shot, you know,

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let's see if we can, you know, have a better
feeling heading into the season. Offensively, they're really they haven't
been able to run the ball. They haven't been able
to pass protect on any consistent level. You know, see
if you can find some offensive rhythm. So I'm not
looking from the go out and you know, score touchdowns
on you know, four drives or anything like that, but
you know, put a couple of first downs together, make

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it look like there's some cohesion there.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
Yeah, like that's all yep, Michael, Yeah, mine's ball out
on the bubble. That's you know, ball out on the bubble.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Ball out on the bubble. Again. I guess like this
another one.

Speaker 7 (16:35):
Am I allowed to say this? Yeah? You know you
got to be a little bit unclear. I mean if
you just put like Drake may play really good, everyone
would you mean like I did? But I you know,
I just I like these games for when we get
in the second quarter. I just I want to see
some of these. You know, maybe a guy or two
just show up and have a good game. And I don't,
you know, not particularly rooting for anyone, but you know,
a guy like an Alex Austin or Marco Wilson or

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one of these guys who kind of in a position
battle just to come out with a game and you know,
state their claim and I just I really like when
that happens. Players come out when the pressure's on and
it's a chance to get a job and this might
be your last chance in the league. Not to say
those guys aren't necessarily, but I think there are some
position battles where you know, a guy like Kaishawan Boody,
you know, really good night from him. I think, you know,

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might might really help his kind of roster chances as
like one of those six seventh receivers. So I just
want to see some of those second level guys play
some good games and stand out a little bit.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
I think my key to the game is a little
bit similar to Paul's. I didn't it wasn't as snazzy
as any of your guys. Clean operation. I just like,
let's cut down the penalty.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
But just so you know, yours has been mine each
of the first two games, and I gave up, Well,
I gave up, but I'm not doing it again.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
I'm not giving up.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
Can we have no fallse starts, no delay of games,
no uh snap fumbled snaps? Right, Matt's is the best.
It's they need to figure out how to do the
easy things before you can do the hard I think.

Speaker 8 (17:55):
It all starts with that. I think you can't win
until you stop beating yourself, and you can't run the
offense until you stop doing those things.

Speaker 7 (18:01):
I'm gonna push back on that, Paul. I think yours
is the key because yours encompasses that to me, and
I think, like, to come out of this game, what
are you gonna learn? Probably not much? But I think
if the offense, first offense with Brissett with a rejiggered line,
whoever that looks comes out, puts a drive together, looks
like they know what they're doing, They've got the defense
on their heels a little bit. I think to me,
that would be the most overall encouraging thing.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Eight five five pats five hundred. Let's go to the
phones and we have Jeff from Maine. Let's see Matt
if I can do this successfully. Click Jeff Romaine? Are
you there?

Speaker 15 (18:32):
Hey?

Speaker 16 (18:32):
How you doing guys?

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Great?

Speaker 5 (18:33):
How are you hey?

Speaker 7 (18:34):
Jeff?

Speaker 16 (18:35):
Good? So, I know that it's gonna be tough for
Drake Made to win the starting job with a preseason performance.
Do you think that there's anything that Jacoby Brissett can
do tonight or in the next week to lose himself
the starting job. I'll take it off the air. Thanks, guys,
get hurt.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
That's it.

Speaker 8 (18:56):
Yeah, I agree, because I feel like he didn't look
great in the last preseason game or really at practice
the past few days. So I don't know if there's
anything that he could do to lose it at this point.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
I also don't believe there's anything he could do to
win it. It's his until Drake May is ready to play.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, there you go, which, Paul, You've been a big
proponent of that that. I don't want to be dismissive
of Jacoby Brissett. No, he's keeping his seat warm. Yep.
This is Drake May's time. It's just a question of
when is he ready? And that is what you're kind
of leaning on, correct exactly.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
And I feel if the coaching staff felt really strongly
that Drake May from a developmental standpoint mentally was there,
I think that we would have seen much more of
Drake May with with the ones we didn't really see
any So that tells me that they feel like there's
still some time to develop.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Roger from Kentucky, You're next on Patriots Web Radio and
this is a Patriots pregame show fueled by Duncan.

Speaker 17 (19:55):
Hey, guys, I just wanted to say I'm excited for
the season. Last year, I was working Sunday Monday, got
my schedule change, got promoted. I'm off Sunday Mondays. I'm
ready to watch every Patriots game this year, and hopefully
Drake may will start this year. That's all I wanted
to say. Guys, Thank y'all for what you do. I
appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (20:14):
Thanks for listening.

Speaker 7 (20:14):
Yeah, I mean, I think he's got to start this year.
And I mean the point that I keep going back to.
I made it on the show this week, not to
recap everything I said Tuesday Thursday, but I'd just love
to see him get a chance to go against these
teams that he's going to have to beat to get
in the playoffs. I want to, you know, I'd love
to have him go down to Miami and see what
that's like. I mean, he's you know, if he's playing
by the end of the year, he's going to get
to go up to Buffalo that first Jets game Thursday night,

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Week three. That feels like a big ask. I don't
know if we have to do that, but you know,
we talked about Matt you said Today's a little bit
about getting to know what it's like on the road,
like to see Drake get to these different stadiums and
these environments and get used to these games where that's
where you have to win the AFC East. You gotta
win in Buffalo, you gotta win down in Miami. We
know how hard hard those games all are, even when

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the Patriots were great. So that's part of it for me,
getting him some experience. It's in those kind of games
this year.

Speaker 8 (21:01):
And I feel like he's learned by playing. Like the
more reps we see him take, live reps we see
him take, I feel like the better he's getting.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
So I felt like after the game like you felt,
you know, it just felt like he turned a corner
a little bit. I mean, I I to me, it
was really more on seven on seven than anything. But
you know, it's it's it's been pretty consistent. It's been
you know, it hasn't been a straight line up. It's
been up and down, I think. But but overall where
we stand right now, I feel like he's on a
on a good upward streak.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
We welcome your calls at eight five five Pats five hundred.
Also your emails at web radio at Patriots dot com.
We've got an email from Michael B. What are the
chances that Booty gets a starting role? Will he be
on the roster? That's two very very different questions.

Speaker 8 (21:40):
It is, And honestly, after listening to Booty at the podium,
and I will never stop talking about this because I'm
still jarred by it. He said there's not a doubt
in my mind that I'm going to make this roster.
And I was blown away because I was like, what
have you done on this field to make you come
out of your mouth and say that, And also looking
at this entire room, like I just haven't seen enough
compared to everybody else. I feel like Jalen Rigor I

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showed up more for me on special teams and in
team periods as well, more than Booty has.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
Yeah, he's the same thing with He's firmly on the
bubble for me. I mean I think he's he's had
some catches. I mean, I think he's got good hands,
But I don't know. When I heard that, I almost
feel like that's like psychological technique of like I can't
even imagine I'll be.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
On the rocks confidence, you know, Yeah, I mean he
doesn't lack for that. Do you think no? And you
can't at that position for sure, at anything really like
to be a professional athlete like that, You know, I
understand the mindset. Do you think the emailer was talking
about starting tonight and then making the ross?

Speaker 7 (22:34):
I mean, I think if he did mean that, that's
a great that's a yes, I do. I think him
and Rager are those kind of guys you need to
get that kind of look at.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
Yeah. I think Matt, you might have taken it that
way the way you say that's too too different.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
I'm a very little real person.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Yeah, so I think that that he could, you know,
he should should receive a lot of playing time tonight.
I think it comes down to I just heard my
buddy Mike Reese, who I've said a million times on
our shows, is one of the very few that I
put a lot of stock in, you know, among our colleagues.
And you know, he had the same problem, Mike, that

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you and I had on Friday afternoon when we were
putting together a roster. Projection couldn't get to fifty three,
didn't have fifty three players. And he said, you know,
for that reason, I could see seven receivers. Yep, you know,
until boy's ready, and that means Rager and Booty would
stick around.

Speaker 8 (23:20):
I could also see seven receivers because of how thin
the tight end room is.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Right now, that's a different question that I want to
get to. I think that's a really good point. Let's
first go to Sean and Virginia. Shawn and Virginia, you're
next on Patriots pregame.

Speaker 14 (23:31):
Sure, Oh God, I wonder to dicuss about the top
between Drake May and Krobe starting. I think it should
be a no brainer who obviously be starting, especially with
a makeshift off of the line. It should be a
guy with the best attribute and the album. That guy
is Drake May. I believe the expense is your best teacher.
If you put Jakobe behind there, the offense is going

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to be a very very bad, very bad support where
the David is gonna be living on the field for
a long time, and you should put the guy with
the best attributes to get the job done. As far
as the lead, at least make me give me a
gliss of hope and lead a glands of hope.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
So Sean, I thank you for the phone call.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
Sean.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
Sean, I agree that you know, from a physical standpoint attributes,
but I think there are more things that would be
encompassed by the term attributes than just physical ability. And
I think there's an argument to be made that you know,
Brissett's experience and knowledge of the system would be worth
you know, I don't know, you know at least as

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much as Drake May's mobility and athleticism in terms of attributes.
Now I put you guys know how I feel. I
I'm all for Drake May. I just don't I don't
think I'm going to get what I want and I
can understand their mindset.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Right, yeah, right tomorrow. I want to go back to
your tight end question. Is we're trying to figure out
who they have fifty three NFL players for a roster
on Tuesday Day, the question of tight end, and some
people are making out to be will Cox or Bell.
And I've heard people say, again talking to people earlier today,
why is it in either were proposition? Why isn't it both?
You know, you might have guys Wilcox at least has

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played tight end in the National Football League before, and
I'm a believer in Bell that I think he might
be able to be a Swiss Army knife.

Speaker 8 (25:21):
Yeah. I think my problem with that room right now
is the best ability is availability, and that room has
been tough. Jahim Bell has been in and out, Wilcox
in and out, Hooper in and out. I have no
idea what's happening with Hunter Henry. So I think you
have to keep all of them because right now I
don't know who is healthy and ready to play comes
in Cincinnati.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
Willcox is the perfect example to me of a guy
when I'm doing the fifty three and you're like, why
because he's the third tight end because you can line
it up at the position.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
I mean it's a low bar. I know it's a
low bar.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
So there is a conversation of do we just desperately
need someone because he's been here? And you know, I
think that that's valid within your name time. At the
same time, if you're putting that guy on the field,
I mean he can't catch.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Yeah, the injuries might save somebody, but the injury you
like because if to Tamara's point, if Hunter Henry's not available,
you have to then you might need four. Otherwise, to me,
it would come down. Do you think Mitchell, Wilcox and
Jahem Bell are better than Jalen Rager and Kate k HUNBOOTI.
I don't even think it's close. I think the wide
receivers are much better players now. But that might not
be the way you do it because you can't just

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pick your best fifty three players that you know walk through.
You have to get different positions in different you know,
roles to be filled. Yeah, if Hunter Henry is not
ready to go, you might need an extra tight end.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
I mean Will Cox is a guy that you know,
I wonder is he just going to the Could he
just go to the practice squad anyway?

Speaker 16 (26:37):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (26:37):
Yeah, but I love I mean, I'm still intrigued by Belle.
I mean he's had moments. I mean, yes, it's not
been consistent, but he's got good size and he runs
pretty well.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
So any of those guys will get to the practice squad,
and any of those four guys we're talking about.

Speaker 8 (26:50):
Yeah, I feel like Bell has taken advantage of his
extra reps that he's gotten with the injuries that did Like.

Speaker 7 (26:56):
He had that day where he had three tight you know,
three touchdowns and then.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
Kind of why Ben dropped a bunch of pass two days.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Five five pats five hundred is our number. Tony. You've
been patient from Pennsylvania. You're next on the Patriots pregame show.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
Hello, hey, Tony, you there.

Speaker 18 (27:14):
I just want to touch on two things, guys. I
just want to touch on a defense for for Pole
Duggar and you know, they did a good job of
signing players back, but the key piece they let Judon go.
And I just want to know why would you let
somebody go that wanted to stay. He absolutely loves being

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in Boston, being in Foxboro, Massachusetts.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Okay, thanks, you go ahead. I'm gonna let Mike answer
that first.

Speaker 7 (27:43):
Go ahead, Mike. I just don't think he's going to
be part of the next great Patriots team. That's probably
the most simple way to put it. And I think
he wanted multiple years and multiple you know, multiple dollars
to go on those years. I think if the Patriots
could have figured out a way to give him a
bump this year and have him on a one year
deal and you know, thank you for your service and
you can go your up your separate way at the
end of the year, then I think they would have
done it. But I think as soon as it got

(28:04):
to a multi year deal and they looked at a
thirty two year old guy coming off an injury. He's
still you know, look, he was worth a third round pick.
How many other guys on this roster right now are
you willing to give up that's worth the third round pick.
So it hurts, It hurts to rip the band aid off.
But I think that's where this team is, and that's
the decision they made to move on, and certainly they're
very well. As I said at the top, they could
pay for it with the lack of pass rush that
they have. Injuries of piling up there now after he

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left and quickly, Tony, you would.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Have follow up.

Speaker 18 (28:28):
Oh yeah, I just wanted to touch on the wide receivers.
I would absolutely go with Pop Pop over Booty and Taekwon.

Speaker 7 (28:36):
Oh yeah, Douglas.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Douglas is the top receiver.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
So I want to stay on that topic of Judon.
Do you think it was more valuable to keep Godshaw
over Judon or do you think they just had to
pick one or the other and it just happened to
turn out to be him that it got delve out with.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
I think it's different money, they're different ages. You know
that they don't really have. I mean, look, they don't
really have much behind either of those guys. I think
both those guys were but I just think at the
end of the day, it's probably you had to pick
one of them, and Judoon was going to be much
more expensive than Gotcha was, So I don't I don't
entirely think it's apples to apples, but I mean I
do see the comp and they're certainly closer to thirty

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even though you know, Godscha, I think is twenty nine
or about, you know, just a few years behind him,
and the majority of their signings have been in their
you know, the guys in their late twenties are coming
off their first deal. So I don't know, I don't
see as much of a correlation between those two. There
are similarities.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
I think you nailed it. It's money, yeah, you know,
you could do the Gotschaw deal for relative peanuts compared
to what Judon was looking for. And I would just
say to Tony the collar. Yeah. I mean I heard
what Matthew Judon said, and I heard him say it repeatedly,
but then he went to another team without the contract,
So how bad did he want to be here? You know?

(29:50):
And I still think, and I've said this the day
that he was I still think that eventually Atlanta will
probably rework that deal. I would you know, I'd be
surprised if he doesn't get a deal. But if you
really wanted to be here, like you said, you would
have stayed and then played it out, and you know,
you see what happens. And I don't blame Matthew Judon.
I mean, he's a guy that's you know, he's going

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to be thirty two years old. He's this is probably
the last kick at the can. He's looking to get
paid again. So I mean, these guys have a very
short shelf life where they have marketability. So I don't
hold it against judea On. I just I just don't
want to fall into that. Well, he kept saying that
he really wanted to be here, Yeah he did, but
I don't really think he did.

Speaker 7 (30:29):
I never put much stock on that anyway.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
I don't think his actions. I don't think his actions,
you know, backed up what his words were.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
We also want to make sure we're looking at all
the emails at web radio, at Patriots dot com, so
everybody knows.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
Better than hard already he's just keeping track of the
electronic mail.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
No, I just want to make sure. In the electronic mail,
Jason writes in that he thinks I'm sweating bullets. I'm
not sweating, but my glasses flog up due to the light.
Not making excuses, so the glasses do flog.

Speaker 7 (30:52):
Get you some little windshield way.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Maybe I am not sweating, but.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
I can see the little fog on the guys like that,
But you're sweating.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
I like the attention to detail by Jason's so I
just want to make sure we're entering all of it.
Let's go back to the phones and Arizona. Go ahead, Hello, Maddie, Matthew,
here's it going.

Speaker 19 (31:14):
Hey, I grew up in Connecticut, used to go to
the Patriots games back in the Bledsoe days. So post Mayo.
But but Drake made everything. I'm really excited a lot
of fans. But I kind of look at it more
of a developmental year, you know, not really so much
of wins and losses. Do you think it's important to
the media advance kind of manage expectations as opposed to
being overly optimistic or too pessimistic.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Mara, why don't you take a shot at that first?

Speaker 5 (31:42):
She's gonna need a sip of coffee first both place.

Speaker 7 (31:45):
I mean, that's what they've been telling us all along.
I mean, you know, they were four win team last year.
You know it's not going to all turn around at
once again. Like it's just coming out of camp. They
got a quarterback with some potential. And I just think
that's the hardest piece to find, all the qualifiers that
we've had with recent quarterbacks that been here the last
few years of why they couldn't ever do it even
in a perfect scenario. This kid has all the tools

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in the toolbox that you possibly need. So I just
that's that's the whole point. Be patient, like, you know,
give this kid a chance, Like, don't rush him on
the field and demand that right now. We get them
out there and we you know, let them develop him
a little bit. All these coachings that they've been around
a lot of good quarterbacks, Mike, they've been around a
lot of good quarterbacks different programs. Guys from the Shanahan program,
guys from Green Bay. They've been around development. They know,

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you know what, a young quarterback is going to need
to have a full arsenal at their disposal. So trust
them a little bit and don't just say, well, he's great,
just throw them in there and it'll all work out.
Like we can be a little bit cautious. And believe me,
if we get to like December and we're still watching
a poor offense that has no juice and can't fight
out of a paper bag, I'll be mad too. But

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for now, for the first month or two of the season,
I'm okay to be patient.

Speaker 8 (32:53):
So I hate to keep bringing this back to food.
And I promise you guys that I'm not hungry and
I did eat before this, and I'm okay. But I
think looking back to the call earlier where he said,
Drake has, you know, the best tools, the best attribute attributes,
so therefore he should be starting for me, I don't
know why. It just reminded me of a person in
kitchen cooking school having all the ingredients to make this

(33:15):
incredible dinner. He's not going to cook it the same
as a chef who's been cooking for ten years, and
the same way that Jacoby Bursett. There's nine years of
tape on him. He's going to play better than Drake
right now, simply because he has more experience. So even
though you know Drake may have all the ingredients they're there,
he still has to learn before he becomes this immaculate

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chef cooking on the field.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Mike, do we have cough buttons here? I noticed you
had to lean away there for a second.

Speaker 7 (33:38):
No, go, we do. Actually may just checking.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
I need to do a better job inventory.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
It's the red button that says cough.

Speaker 12 (33:45):
OK.

Speaker 7 (33:45):
I forgot about that one.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
We're going to answer your questions at webrea patrids dot com.
It's nice that's where Bill kept.

Speaker 7 (33:52):
The red flag, you know. It's like you got to
reach down there.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
More electronic meal. This one is a question from Oliver
watching in the UK. He wants you to know is
there a possibility that the Patriots will build a roster
with consideration of mind to maximize potential trade value in
future transactions? There have been many teams using trades for
future picks to help in a rebuild, and considering the
Patriots circumstances, might this be something to consider, Paul?

Speaker 5 (34:20):
I think Mike. Mike made a comment about fifteen minutes
ago about Judaan. You know how many guys in the
roster would be worth a third round pick in trade?
And I think that's a pretty small number of guys
that you would be potentially willing to deal Like what's
let's you know, sort of eliminated guy. Forget about the
blood clots, let's eliminate a guy like Christian Barmore. You

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wouldn't be you know, interested in trading him. He's one
of the guys you want to build. Yeah, he wants
you want. He's a building block. So the guys that
would be sort of you know available, quote unquote if
you're two and.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
Eight, I only got one and it's probably I mean,
Jonathan Jones will be the only one. And not saying
it's a high.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
Risk, but that and we'll only kind and I agree
with you. I think that's a perfect example. What are
you getting for Jonathan Jones? And that's no disrespect to
Jonathan Jones. He's a little bit older at this point,
he's last year, kind of looks like he's kind of
heading down the road of making that transition from a
full time corner to maybe a part time and in
more of a safety type.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
Hard to tell how they've.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
Been And again, terrific career. No disrespect whatsoever.

Speaker 7 (35:24):
Sign of respect that he has some trade juice that yeah,
a guy in the last year of his deal and
you're getting close to the trade deadline. A contender really
needs a cornerback. You know, they feel like they're one
guy he's injury, can play in the slot, he's fast,
like he has some value. But as Paul said, it's not.
It's not like you're you're stocking guys up. We're going
to get two second round.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
Pas and at the risk of you know, ruining any
anybody's day. You know, Dietrich Wise, would he be a
trade candidate contract last year of his contract and like
the at the trade deadline, I brought him up as
a surprise cut candidate, and you would have thought that
I told people there was no such thing as Christmas.

Speaker 7 (35:58):
Hey, they're kids, isn't here? Let's watch it all right?

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Eighty five patch five hundred is our number here Kendall
in North Carolina. You've been patient, Kendall, You're next on
the Patriots pregame show Fueled.

Speaker 14 (36:08):
What's going on?

Speaker 20 (36:09):
God?

Speaker 9 (36:09):
I want I want to see which I think about
Pakwan potition start they to sue.

Speaker 7 (36:14):
Yeah, I think it's a possibility.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Kind of the where it looks like it's going to
I'm going to say.

Speaker 7 (36:19):
This though, for all the for all the hype that
that gets, I would say it's probably gonna be a
pretty healthy rotation, I think with him and Rakers. So
I don't think you're gonna see Taekwon out there every
snap out at the X. You know, I think they
liberally wrote to rotate those two guys, and I think
they'll still be searching. In a perfect world, Javon Baker
would have entered that conversation or maybe had some push

(36:39):
nice he's kind of fallen back and behind. I would
consider him, you know, kind of the seventh receiver now.
So I think it's gonna be both those guys and
they'll have opportunities. And that's what I think they're looking for, is,
you know, can Taekwon stay healthy? Can he be productive?
Is this new offense a better you know fit for
him trying to go down the field and taking advantage
of some of his speed as opposed to you know
how they were kind of us in the past, which

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I think kind of contributed to him getting injured a
couple of times. So we'll see. But I couldn't I
couldn't tell you, like Week three, it's all Jayalen Maker
out there in Thornton's Fall.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
By the way, sure, Tim from Pensacola, You're next on
Patriots preagame.

Speaker 16 (37:13):
Awesome, Thank you so much. Can you all hear me?

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yes, sir?

Speaker 21 (37:17):
Oh awesome. So just two really quick questions.

Speaker 16 (37:20):
Uh. The first one my sol in the past.

Speaker 21 (37:23):
I know that you really never really put an emphasis
and I'm sorry if this is a mischaracterization, but on
my tall fast playmakers for in a second type receivers
opting more for like the slower, the more agile, the
kind of work it down.

Speaker 16 (37:40):
The field, like the welfare type.

Speaker 21 (37:42):
And so with this switch and offense between the Earnhart
Perkins and now I'm assuming it's going to be more
of a run based slash to take shots out of
the field, not any particular player, but you are you
more excited about that type of receiver or are you
just fundamentally more of uh.

Speaker 7 (38:02):
The deuced deep chrit I appreciate. I don't think you
totally mischaracterized it, so thanks Tim. I mean I just
think you need all types, you know, I think you
need you need a small, quick type to get off
the line, you need a bigger, tougher type to get
and the ideally you've got a guy on the outside
with speed that makes everybody think. So I think it
all kind of has to fit together as a picture.

(38:22):
But I see what you're saying, and I don't think
it'll be quite the same. I mean, I just I
think Pop Douglas we've seen him out there a lot.
But I think they're gonna run a lot of two
tight end stuff and it's not going to be Pop
Douglas out there every single snap. It's going to be
a third and long. That's when you kind of bring
the small, quicker slot type in there.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
So I love Pop.

Speaker 7 (38:38):
I'm good on like you know, slot guys, the third,
fourth receiver type. I think that that piece is in place.
I just think the big piece is the X that
you know that they don't have yet and that they're
they're gonna have to find. But those are as we've
talked about ad nauseum, those are the hardest piece to find.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Thanks for your call, Tim Back to the email ors
electronic mail. This one is from Patrick Good Evening.

Speaker 7 (38:57):
Everyone.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
It's my wife's favorite time of the year, not because
football is starting soon. I have laryngitis and she doesn't
have to listen to my big mouth Okay, so he
writes in anyway, my question for all is do you
think Mayo already has a good idea of who's making
the final fifty three or do you think you can
learn something and roster spots can be won tonight. Let's
go to Tamra first.

Speaker 8 (39:17):
It's funny that this question was asked because I was
literally thinking we should go back to do this this
key about bubble players, because we've only really talked about
Kaishan Booty and you know where he stands.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
All out on the bubble.

Speaker 8 (39:27):
Yeah, I feel like that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
I feel that inappropriate.

Speaker 8 (39:31):
Yeah, I feel like he probably has a general idea,
but I feel like tonight could be make or break
for some people. So I think that the guys who
are given a lot of reps, especially like the Alex
Austin's of the world, When you look in that room,
there's so many guys still fighting for a spot Marcella's dial.
This is going to be a big night. I feel
like for the cornerbacks and defensive backs room, that's where

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I'm looking at outside of the wide receivers, that's the
next room that I have circled.

Speaker 7 (39:56):
I say, I agree, it's just so hard to put
so much on one performance, you know, and I like,
can somebody inch above? And I mean Mayo talked about
how Austin and Wilson have been inconsistent. You know, one
guy and they get a lot of reps and they
rotate with the top group, Marcellus Dial, Isaiah Bolden, Sean Wade.
There's a lot of guys there, but we don't really
know who can play. If they have a good game tonight,

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does it prove they can play?

Speaker 4 (40:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
And Mayo has also said it's the entire body of
work that they're being evaluated on, not just one night.
If somebody really Paul, you know, I love to say
who popped today? I don't know if who popped tonight
is going to get it done?

Speaker 5 (40:30):
I'm not sure. Yeah, but it might be one of
those deals. And I agree with what all of you
have said in some of the players, the specific players,
I would totally put in that category. And like Mao says,
it's a body of work. So maybe you know, if
Alex Austin is really good and Sean Wade's really bad
or something, that might you know, tip the scale. Yeah,
that might go down, as will someone want a job
to del Pettis, Josh Bledzell, like you know del Pettis.

(40:54):
Is there a spot for both one neither?

Speaker 15 (40:56):
You know?

Speaker 5 (40:57):
I think there's I think he probably has a pretty
good idea. To go back to the original question. I
don't know. There's probably like forty eight spots, forty nine
spots that he probably feels pretty comfortable with. Now he
also has the added information of the injury status of
some players. Yep, you know. And the reason why I
had such a hard time getting two fifty three was

(41:19):
because of guys like Kendrick Bourne in Taki Taki, Hunter Henry.
You know, I don't know where those guys are going
to be physically now. Hunter Henry is on the fifty three,
born in Taki Taki. I would have thought would be,
you know, Taki Taki, I didn't have. I had no
idea he would start on pup when he did. So
that's a spot that gets that that's now open. Matthew

(41:41):
Judon was a spot on my fifty three. Now that's open.
Christian Barmore was a spot on the fifty three. So
there's three or four spots that you didn't necessarily think
heading into camp. Now you get a fine bodies to
fill them, and I'm not exactly sure to you know,
is it Tristan Hill, armand Watts both neither. I think
you can make cases for all of these different just

(42:04):
Sam Roberts.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
Yeah, we going back to Reese mentioning some of the
defensive linemen around the league that Jerry Montgomery might have
had connections to. You're seeing now some of those cuts
start to happen with Are any of those guys appealing,
you know, versus some of the names that we're talking
about at the bottom of the roster. You know, could
there be somebody that's a little bit more appealing to
them than a Tristan Hill. There's another defensive lineman that's

(42:25):
a little bit more proven that you know, we know
we're gonna get out.

Speaker 11 (42:28):
Of this guy.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Well, here's a position, sorry, here's a position I think
most fans care about. And when you only can get
to forty seven or forty eight guys in the roster,
is there a scenario.

Speaker 7 (42:37):
Where you see that they keep four quarterbacks?

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Because if Jacoby Brissett gets hurt, do you throw the
kid in or do you go to somebody who's at
least gotten you through a game in Bailey's Appy. I
definitely think Milton's a guy that they want to develop,
and I think that there's a danger of him being
picked up if you subject him to waivers. Is your scenario,
and I'll let you start where they.

Speaker 8 (42:57):
Keep four quarterbacks, I would say no, just because you've
already seen, you know, JJ McCarthy go down. I think
that people are gonna want to maybe pick up a
guy like Zappi so they can have a good backup
or maybe a good starter if you don't want to
start Sam Darnold or Zach Wilson, like if anyone else
gets hurt, you might want to have Bailey Zappy on
your roster, in your back pocket. So I don't think

(43:19):
they're going to clear waivers with four quarterbacks, even if
like they tried to keep two on the practice squad
and two on the fifty three, I don't think they're
gonna end up with all four.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Paul last year Zappi made it through waivers, he came
back on. Does he get through waivers this year?

Speaker 5 (43:31):
Yep? And they built it would too. I just feel
like it's hard to claim a quarterback and then have
to have to roster him without having any knowledge of
the system that he's going to. I know the Patriots
did it last year with emergency quarterback. One of those guys,
Matt Carrall. I think it was Carroll.

Speaker 8 (43:51):
Do you have a Nathan Rourke for a little.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
Yeah, but he didn't have to clear a waver like
you didn't have to claim him he was. He was
just a signing. They claimed off waivers from the Panthers,
I believe, and then they had to roster them for
a while. I feel like they probably don't have to
worry about exposing the guys to waivers now because of
what we're talking about. There's roster spots now. I think

(44:15):
all three of those guys will make it. To Matt's
point about the four, I would have said absolutely not.
But this is kind of shaping up like two thousand Patriots,
like we're having a hard time getting to fifty three.
Why not just keep all four of them. I don't
think they will, but I don't completely dismiss it either.

Speaker 8 (44:33):
I don't am I weird to think that they would
end up keeping two kickers over four quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
I just don't know why you would do that.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
I don't know. I mean, I mean sticking a quarterback.
I could see it. I could. I mean, because we're
talking about like what's more valuable Bailey Zappi or Tristan Hill,
you know, like those kind of like Tristan Hill, I mean,
Billy Zappi's quarterback who's played in the league. Like there's
value there. So I don't it's a hard decision, like.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
And it goes back to the scenario that Matt proposed,
like if you don't want to play Drake May and
then something happens to Brisset, you have at least a
guy who's played. Now, to me, that's not worth it.
I would just play Drake May if something happened ever
set But you know, there's different arguments to be made
either side.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
All right, much more to talk about here in this
edition of Patriots Pregame fueled by Duncan. We want to
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Email us please at web radio at Patriots dot com.
We're gonna do something a little bit different here. I
don't know Rob did this it all in the past,
but as people may or may not know, this is
a very big weekend here at Gillette Stadium right now.
Actually that's very night twenty two, twenty three and twenty

(45:40):
four sold out at Gillette Stadium for Kenny Chesney and others.
And earlier we had a chance to sit down and
talk with Kenny Chesney. Here's that interview right now. Well,
please to be joined by eight time an Entertainer of
the Year, Kenny Chesney at your home away from home
here at Gillette Stadium is really your home away from home? Yes,
our Patriots pregame show presented by Duncan, fueled by Duncan.

(46:01):
Thanks for joining us, Kenny Man, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
It's an honor to be here.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Well, the end of the tour means Foxborough and Jellette Stadium.
How are the fans of New England so fortunate enough
to get the tour finale for all these years?

Speaker 15 (46:14):
Well, there was a couple of years when we first
started playing here that it wasn't the end of the tour.
There was like three years i think where we played
earlier on in July, but there was one summer. And
if you ask anybody that plays sports, they'll tell you
they're a little superstitious. You know, if they have a
great game, you know they do the same routine or whatever.

(46:36):
So that particular year, we opened at Raymond James Stadium
in Tampa and we closed in Foxboro, and it was
the most magical tour of my life, right And I
told everybody, I said, We're doing it just like that
every year, and.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
We have ever since.

Speaker 15 (46:53):
We've opened in Tampa and closed in Foxboro now in
the middle changes. But we love it that way, you know,
and it has become just a huge part of our
life or part of my touring family's life. And we
know that when we get to Foxborough that we've had
a long, wonderful summer. But it's almost like we hit
a different gear when we get here.

Speaker 17 (47:13):
You know.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
It's it's it's it's beautiful and and we don't take
it for granted. And it's just a huge celebration for
me and my road family.

Speaker 15 (47:21):
And I've got a lot of friends obviously in New
England and over the years have become really good friends
with you know, a lot of people in the Patriots
organization and become family with Robert and Jonathan.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
And I think you can see that as a fan,
you know, with somebody who was here last night and
in the pit and at the end, the appreciation that
your family has. There's there's like a little bit of relief,
like there's a little light at the end of the tunnel,
because it's a grueling tour, but it's a happiness and
the joy that everyone seemed to have towards the end.
It really in the audience you can feel that.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Well, it's I say it a lot. It's a lot
like the last day of school, you know what I mean.

Speaker 15 (47:56):
Like you look forward to it and you're tired, and
you want to you want to in one sense, you
want it to be over, but then again, you don't
want to let it go.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
And that's where we are.

Speaker 15 (48:04):
We're in this bitter sweet place, you know, walking through
the hallways here at Gillette and getting on the buses
and look, we've been in rehearsals since February, you know,
and been together since then, and we've been on the road.
We started in Tampa in the middle of April, and
so here we are, you know, and it's like anything else.

(48:24):
It's it's you look at pictures from then, it seems
like forever ago, but in your soul it just seems
like yesterday.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
And so it's bittersweet, you know, to let it go.
But to be here and to be back.

Speaker 15 (48:36):
Like you said in the beginning, you know, Foxborough has
become in a lot of ways my second home, and
the Crass my second family in a way.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
So you know, it's just just just real special. It
always is.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Let's go back maybe fifteen years ago when No New
England wasn't new to you. You were playing Sheds I'm
old enough to remember, replaced by the name of Great Woods.
Who knows what it's called this week or anything like that.
What was the impetus or why did you think, Kenny,
or how did the genesis come about? You know what,
let's tackle stadium shows this is going to be a
different a barrier to break and I think we can

(49:10):
break through and do that.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
Yeah, especially in this in this area.

Speaker 15 (49:14):
We played the Amphitheater outside of town in Mansfield, and
we played that a couple of years and you could
just feel this energy.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
Bullying underneath, you know, we could just tell that there.

Speaker 15 (49:30):
Was something special happening in New England and everywhere we played,
no matter if it was in the Boston area or
or if it was in Vermont, or if it was
in Maine or wherever, it was just crazy or Rhode Island.
It was a real unique connection and there was I
think it was two thousand and four, we did two
or three nights at the Amphitheater down in Mansfield, and

(49:51):
that's when we decided, you know, the next year we
were going to try We didn't know that we could
pull it off, but we were going to try to
do a couple of STEADI shows. And that year, I
believe in two thousand and five, we played Pittsburgh, we
played DC, and we played Foxboro and it was just
I was stunned that we were able to to you know,

(50:14):
to to do well. You know, we're not we didn't
do what we're doing now, but I think we were
really close to selling out the first time we ever
played Foxborough, and it just became a tradition for us.

Speaker 13 (50:25):
You know.

Speaker 15 (50:25):
But it was a big leap of faith on my
part and Roberts part. I mean, it was neither one
of us obviously knew we were going to become this
good of friends, or we knew that we were going
to be able to sustain this love affair, if you will,
for you know, I think tonight, uh, you know, this
weekend will be our twenty second, twenty third and twenty
fourth shows unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah, and that you're now doing three consecutive shows at
the same venue.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
That's yeah, I've never done that.

Speaker 15 (50:51):
I did that one time, never in a stadium, but
we did it Red Rocks outside of edinb when year
and that's the This is the only time we've ever
done too in a I mean, ever done three in
a football stadium.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
You mentioned some of the moments, Kenny, and You've been
involved with the Crafts in a lot of special moments
outside of the music, which is unbelievable its own sense.
His birthday parties, Yeah, acoustics show, the night before the
Super Bowl in Arizona, in his suite down twenty eight
to three? Who's he hugging on the comeback? Ring ceremonies

(51:24):
unbelievable things. Do you have a favorite?

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Well, look, the ring ceremony was right up there.

Speaker 16 (51:31):
You know, I.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
Wasn't expecting that, you know, but all of it, you know,
all when you.

Speaker 15 (51:38):
Think about all those things, it's just, you know, Robert
and I've been in each other's lives and good times
and bad times, and that's what family is, you know,
and that's what makes it so special.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
And it's yes, we do business together.

Speaker 15 (51:53):
But aside from that, I mean, I feel like that
our friendship is on a completely different level than that now.
But if I have a favorite, I mean, it would
be the ring ceremony for sure. But being at the
super Bowl down twenty eight to three, and I kept
telling Robert and Jonathan they were upset at halftime, that
was a tough halftime to be in the suite, you

(52:15):
know what I mean exactly, so because they wear their feelings.
I mean, they care about this stuff, you know. Obviously,
I kept telling them just wait, just wait, just wait,
and it's little by little, you know, they just kept
coming back. And I'm telling you, that was a very
That's got to be one of my most favorite moments ever.
Was that night they came back.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
It's an interesting snapshot into society. Here's a kid from Tennessee, yeah,
and is now working on a twenty plus year relationship
with a billionaire football owners. Why do you think that
that relationship has endured, Kenny.

Speaker 15 (52:49):
Because it's authentic. Honestly, we're not friends because of money.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
We're not friends.

Speaker 15 (52:55):
We're friends because we love sports, and we're friends because
we love music and we have a lot of there's
stuff in common. You know, Robert really cares about people,
you know, everything he's doing with his hate initiative, I
mean all of it.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Like I give a lot to charity, and so does he.

Speaker 15 (53:09):
And I think that that's a really big part of
our connection is that we have all those things in common.
And Robert said years ago, because we always do a
lunch on Friday before my first show in Foxboro, and
he told me that day he goes music and sports
bring people together more than anything else that we have

(53:29):
in our lives, and especially in today's society, those things
are really true. I mean there's a lot of division,
and there's a lot of hate, and there's a lot
of stuff going on in our country. And I truly
believe that he's right now more than ever. And I
just think that's why I think we have a lot
of the same values. Both of us, you know, work
really hard and have built something from the ground up,

(53:53):
and I don't know, there's this mutual respect.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
I think it's in your live recording if I go
back that you released, where you talk about that, and
it's in front of the sixty five thousand people here
in Foxborough, and there's just a huge swell of cheers.
It sounds so simple that we come together, but it's
so true. And I know you go out in the
parking lot and you see no shoes Nation and everything
like that. But people can put their differences aside for two, three,

(54:18):
four five hours and just get into the music.

Speaker 8 (54:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (54:23):
I think that the sports and music are the two
places where they're not going to be told what to believe.
Well music on my concerts anyway, I have friends that
use that platform, use their stage as a platform to
tell people what to believe in, how to think, and
who to vote for. That's never been a part of
my life, you know. I've always been the antithesis of that.

(54:47):
And that's the same as coming to watch the Patriots.
You know, they just want to win, right, They don't
want to be told what to think. And I think
that those two things are really very very common with
music sports in my life.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
And you know, and what you guys do here.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
So I think it's over my left shoulder. There's a
picture of somebody that maybe younger Patriot fans don't remember,
number eighty six, Stanley Morgan. Yeah, and you're a fan, no.

Speaker 15 (55:13):
No, I was a big fan, Like I grew up
in Knoxville, and you know, we didn't have a pro
allegiance to anyone, but all we had was Tennessee football.
And the new coach, Drod Mayo, played at Tennessee, so
I knew. I knew who he was, you know, a
long time ago, because he played under Phil Former at Tennessee.
So I grew up on Tennessee football. And so the

(55:35):
players that played for Tennessee for us not having pro
football in your life, they were, they were as big
as anyone, you know, So I was a I loved
Stanley Morgan, Willie Gaulton, a lot of guys that played
at Tennessee, and so they were they were really Stanley
was a really big guy in the in the the

(55:55):
lore of Knoxville and Tennessee football. So that's when he
got when he played for the Patriots, That's when I
started following the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
And it's been it's been that way since I was
a kid.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
It seems like almost a perfect marriage between football music
and the boys of Fall. Yeah, what was the impetus
behind that song, Kenny Well?

Speaker 15 (56:15):
I honestly, I knew that my sports days were limited
right in high school. And I remember being in high
school my last game, and for I just sat there
forever and kept my cleats on and my shoulder pads
on because I knew when I took them off, that
was it forever.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
And I think the song Boys of Fall just.

Speaker 15 (56:36):
Got into the core of a lot of family values.
I feel like that a lot of families and communities
that lean on their sports teams. I felt like that
song was one of the songs that really got just
touched the DNA of their life. And I grew up
in that community. And there's a lot of communities, I mean,
Foxborough was one of those communities in New England has

(56:57):
a lot of those communities.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
And when I grew up, we had certain things to
lean on, and that was church, and that was school
music and football.

Speaker 15 (57:08):
And when I heard Boys of Fall, a guy named
Casey Bethard wrote that song, and his dad was Bobby Bethard,
who was a famous GM in the NFL, and and
so there was a football connection there. It was a
really authentic song about Casey's life and ended up being
a really universal song about a lot of our lives,

(57:31):
you know what I mean. And I remember Sean Payton,
he did the intro to the video and the Saints
were up here practicing with the Patriots, and Sean had
a back then we had DVD's the stuff to watch,
and Sean, well, we're during the week because they were
up here practicing with him. He goes, he told Belichick,
he go here, you got to watch this, and Bill goes,

(57:53):
you know, all right, all right? He grabbed it and
Sewan didn't know if he's going to watch it or not.
The next day, Bill came almost running over to Sean, going, man,
I'm really glad you gave me that, because there was
a lot of reasons. Obviously we you know, no one
loved Bill but that so I knew that it had
connected on a lot of different levels.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
So two months ago, Kenny, you're used to playing in
front of sixty thousand people here at Jowette Stadia, but
there's a full band with you, and there's It's No
Shoes Nation that's here. Two months ago you play an
acoustic version of that song.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
What did it mean to you to be included in
that night when Tom went into the Team Hall of
Fame and to be able to perform.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
This, well, it meant a lot to me personally, I
know it.

Speaker 15 (58:30):
You know, it was a big night for Tom, you know,
but for me, you know, because me and my father,
you know, we we we don't have a lot in common,
but we have football in common, and that is that's important.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
You know, That's enough really And.

Speaker 15 (58:45):
Tom Brady, whether he knows it or not, probably brought
a lot of fathers and sons together, you know, and
it definitely brought It was the nucleus of this community
for a long time. And and.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
So I was honored to be and to sing that song.

Speaker 15 (59:02):
And you know, yeah, Tom, Tom is Tom Brady now, right,
but there was a time where he was a kid
and his father was taking him to practice and those that's.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
That's what that song's about, you know.

Speaker 15 (59:15):
And so so whether you're Tom Brady or Kenny Chesney
that you know quit growing in high school, you know,
that song still resonates.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
And so it meant the world to me to sing
it and to be here and.

Speaker 15 (59:27):
H to be a part of that special Not for Tom,
I mean I I I just I love him and
what he's done for a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
He made a lot of people happy.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Different song but also impactful at least in this region.
And you only play it here is Boston. Yeah, is
it just as simple as that, I just want to
play it.

Speaker 15 (59:44):
It is. It's it's in ways as simple as that.
It's such an intimate.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
Song, but you know about our relationship.

Speaker 15 (59:52):
You know, it is written honestly about a girl that
I was chasing down in the Virgin Islands that that
wore her Red Sox cat backwards because she had baby dreadlocks.
And but that's where you know, that song was originally
started and created. But you know, it was on a
record that I never thought was anybody would ever hear.

(01:00:12):
And it just seems disingenuous to play it somewhere else, honestly,
you know. And I get asked to play it everywhere
and I just say, I'm sorry, I just can't do it,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
So that's why it means so much to Like last night.

Speaker 15 (01:00:25):
You know, we did this song and it was tonight,
We're gonna do it Sunday night, We're gonna do it.
But that's why it means so much to me and
the audience is because they know that it's our song
and that means everything.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
As we wrap this up, as we said earlier, Night
twenty two, Night twenty three, and Night twenty four unbelievable,
unbelievable run. What's your message to the people of Foxford,
the people in New England and No Shoes Nation, which
was born right here in Land.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
It's just a simple thank you.

Speaker 15 (01:00:53):
You know. I've a you know, we go to a
lot of places to play music. We do, and we
played you know, over twenty football stadiums this summer, and
a lot of them have been very, very wonderful and
very loud and very energetic. But you know, there's nothing
like it. I come in here to play, you know,
and I get stopped. Wherever I go in New England,

(01:01:15):
I get stopped, and it means a lot to me.
They just they don't really, you know, want anything other
than just to say thank you. And that's over years
of it's become generational now, you know, people that came
to see us in two thousand and five, which is
our first year, are now bringing their kids, you know,
and that means a lot to me, you know, and

(01:01:37):
to know that you have such a connection not with
this the city, but a region and it's just it's
special and there's that doesn't exist anywhere else in the
world for me, and we have a great audiences everywhere
and go play you know, all kinds of different places
and stadiums and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
But this is the only place where we feel it
to a region, not just the city.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Well you say thank you. I say thank you on
behalf of a very small part, but thank you for
everything that you put into it, the dedication, the music,
and thank you for your time here.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Oh man, no, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Well that was pretty cool, I must say. I know
Paul's a big fan of guests, so Tamara and Mike,
we appreciate you, you know, letting us do that. But
that was fun to talk to Kenny. He's a Patriot fan,
he's a New England fan and it was good to
have him. So I hope Patriot fans enjoyed that. Now
let's get back to Patriot's pregame fueled by Duncan. Kevin
has been very patient waiting on the line, Kevin in

(01:02:35):
South Carolina. You're next on Patriots pre game. Thank you
for your patients, Kevin. He might have zoned out because
he's been waiting for a long time. All right, that's
the truth. All right, Let's go to Noah. Let's go
to Noah from Toronto up north Noah you're next on
Patriots pregame.

Speaker 22 (01:02:57):
Hi, I guess another question based on of a sort
of feelings, But like, I think May has been kind
of as advertised so far, but the rest of the
rookie classes may be the hopted super impressive. And I
guess I'm wondering if we go through this year and
May start halfway through and he is looking good, but
nobody else in the rookie classic for me, how would

(01:03:19):
you view Elliott will after this year if that sort
of played out? And I'll take it off the air.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
Yeah, can I jump on this one? Yeah, because it's
it's rare that I amid the over the top positive one.

Speaker 7 (01:03:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
I think Leyden Robinson's been really good. I think Kayden
Wallace looks like he has some potential. And I think
Jalen Polk is a solid, potential, possession type receiver. I
don't think this draft class looks bad at all.

Speaker 7 (01:03:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:03:48):
I like that, Paul. I think for me, when I
look at Jalen Polk, I instantly start thinking of Jacoby Myers.
And obviously he's not going to be a Tyreek Kill
Justin Jefferson type of receiver, but he's reliable, he's consistent
and if he can grow with Drake May, I could
see him being a guy that they have great chemistry,
one third down, one of those guy to have it plays.
Polk's going to be that guy. So I don't think

(01:04:08):
he's gonna be this flashy like number one wide receiver.
But there's also I think value in the Jacoby Myers
of the world.

Speaker 7 (01:04:15):
Yeah, I mean I think, you know, jayvon Baker, I
think has colored this a little bit. And it was
a kind of out of hype, like right after they
drafted him. I think people were, you know, even just
point blank saying like, well, this might be the real guy.
I mean, he's I'm gonna be honest. He's had a
disappointing camp, you know, and he had a little bit
of hype going early, and I think that got the
train kind of rolling and people were like Baker, Baker, Baker,

(01:04:36):
And you know, he certainly has a little shimmy to
him that maybe only Pop has as well, Like he's
just got some ability to get away from guys. But
the inconsistency with the hands, the not knowing where he
is on the field, getting run out of bounds, jumping
when he catches, it's just very unrefined and unpolished. And look,
I mean he's a six round pick, right, so there's

(01:04:56):
a reason for that. I think people just kind of
saw the talent there and I did too. Like I
liked him coming out. I thought he could you know,
be that he was exactly what you were looking for
in the draft. You were looking for, Well, who's the potential. Look,
they're picking early in the second round, you're probably missing
the true X receivers, you know, like ad Mitchell one
of the names we talked about. But who's a guy

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down blow that maybe could emerge as that outside threat?
And that's what Baker was. And he's got a ways
to go. I mean, like I said, I think he's
the seventh receiver. He's got work to do. I think
he might be on the practice squad.

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Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
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Patriots pregame with Matt Smith, Mike Dusau and Tamara Brown
Tomur Before we get to your kicker question, emailer web
Radio at Patriots dot com. Uh, the emailer is, can
I read a name? I don't know? Oh, it's David
who's emailing the Pats. Don't need to achieve top chef levels.

(01:08:42):
We're hungry, No respect to Jacoby, but we're tired of leftovers.
Let's look in the fridge and what's in the cupboard.

Speaker 21 (01:08:49):
And use what we have.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
If AVP can't use what we have, he shouldn't be
in the kitchen.

Speaker 17 (01:08:55):
Hey.

Speaker 16 (01:08:55):
I like that.

Speaker 8 (01:08:56):
That was a good email. That was very creative. If I, however,
am not a leftover girly like I appreciate that there
are certain things that are good leftovers, like pasta, excellent leftover.

Speaker 7 (01:09:09):
It tastes better the next day, right pizza.

Speaker 8 (01:09:11):
But I really like that email. But I feel like
for me, like I still I'm gonna have to let
it marinate. I'm gonna have to learn how to cook.
You can't just expect to cook like a five course
gourmet meal on day one.

Speaker 7 (01:09:23):
I take the wagu beef and they like wrap it
in salt for like a month, and you know, it
doesn't have to be that crazy. Yeah, that's kind of
how I feel about Drake.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Maybe I'm like, let's tenderize it, let's get it marinated,
let's get it all ready to go, so we pop
that sucker on the steak. Everybody's gonna lose their mind
and go nuts.

Speaker 8 (01:09:37):
I think it's kind of like for Thanksgiving, Like I
wouldn't want a first year cook to cook the turkey
or the ham for the Thanksgiving, Like I'd be so mad.
Like we look forward to Thanksgiving all year long, Like
I need you to have some experience experience, like you
cannot make the macaroni cheese, turkey, the ham, Like maybe
you can make I don't know, something that we don't

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really care or be excited about for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 7 (01:10:00):
I don't know, what are the sides that we're losing
track of this metaphor?

Speaker 8 (01:10:02):
But one of the sides that we really don't want.
You can't make the main mathe.

Speaker 7 (01:10:05):
Jon didn't want mac and cheese, So what is that?
Does that count? I don't know how that you can't.

Speaker 8 (01:10:08):
Make the main dish that everyone's excited for with no experience, Right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
So, Tamara, you want to talk about the kicking competition,
And I would ask at this point in time, on
August twenty fifth, has a competition been finalized? Is it okay?

Speaker 7 (01:10:22):
Are we going to ask him tomorrow? She's biased, She's
a Virginia Tech er.

Speaker 8 (01:10:25):
I'm biased. And so when Joey Sly was signed, I
was very excited because he was a really great kicker
for US at Virginia Tech and also great at the
Commanders when he got drafted, well then it was the Redskins.
But so I think that he has a lot of
experience in the NFL. He has a big leg, so
I'm excited about that as well. It's not just the
Virginia Tech part, but I think it's been close until
the last two days, it's been very close, and so

(01:10:48):
for me, I'm kind of nervous that they're going to
go with Chad Ryland just because he's young. They can
continue to develop him and Joey Sly was a good
summer of competition to kind of, you know, challenge him
to get better and they can work with that. So
that's where I'm thinking they might lean towards Chad over slide.

Speaker 7 (01:11:03):
Yeah, I mean, if you were objectively, Sli's been a
little better. I mean just overall, especially only a little better.
I mean it's it's like, yeah, I mean, I would
say in the last couple of days there was been
a little one where it has four to four for
four versus one for four. A couple of days ago,
they do the high stress one where I've never seen
before skinny everybody, not even Matt. They would have everybody like,

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i mean almost in a v around the kicker and
you know, tet walking in front of him, Jabrill Peppers
and like a little jig and crazy, you know. So
it was, uh, you know, really trying to distract guys
and I mean just you know, it hasn't been overwhelming,
but I would say the edge has gone to Sly.
It's hard to just give up on Ryland. But when
I look at those two guys based on what I've
seen in camp on them, I just right now I

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have more confidence in Joey Slide.

Speaker 8 (01:11:49):
But also I think if you're talking about whole body
of work, that's when I say it's been really close
in the last two days. Yes, And I don't know
if tonight either is going to make or break it
for either one of them.

Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
So I wonder how they handle it though, Yeah, like,
you know, do they It seem like they were setting
it up the last couple games to just rotate kicks
where there was a field goal and extra point, so
and I mean, I think there's probably an element too
that none of us are probably too locked in on,
which is the kickoffs. And you know, how do they
think both of these guys handled executed this new kickoff
or you know, do they have because we've seen a
lot of different kinds of kickoffs, So I don't think

(01:12:21):
anybody in the media has truly kind of cracked the
code on the kickoffs and who might be better at that?
So I do think there's still a chance that maybe
Ryland is a little bit more accurate, or you know,
is able to squibet a little bit more in the
manner that they're looking for. So I think that's an
X factor that not really anybody other than the coaches
know for sure.

Speaker 8 (01:12:39):
And sticking with special teams, I think it's going to
be important to find those returners outside of Marcus Jones, especially,
his availability is always a question, I feel like, so
I think that Jalen Riger that's a key opportunity for
him to go out there and continue to show what
he has on special teams. I don't know if anyone
else in the wide receiver room has been playing a
lot of special teams as well. I know Dial has
been playing someone special teams, so that could help him

(01:13:01):
make the roster. I know we were talking about cornerbacks earlier,
but special teams, especially with this team that it's been
a struggle for the in the past couple of years.
I think I'm gonna be looking.

Speaker 5 (01:13:10):
At that too, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Eight five five Pats five hundred is our number here
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Speaker 26 (01:13:20):
Hey, guys, how are we doing good?

Speaker 23 (01:13:22):
He are you?

Speaker 26 (01:13:24):
I'm good. I got two questions for you guys. In
my opinion, Taikwan Thornton's got an extra season on Kaison Boody,
But Kaison Boody, in my opinion's got a lot more upside.
How I want to see what you guys thought, and
then I was gonna ask what you guys saw a
successful season? This season looks like I'll take it off

(01:13:45):
the line.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Thank you, guys, Thank you, thank you, Austin.

Speaker 7 (01:13:48):
I you know, I think Booty's got really good hands.
Taekwon's had a good camp, and Taekwon has an element
of height and speed that nobody else on the roster
really has, maybe except for rager. Alex van Pelt this
week spoke very highly about how Taekwon Thornton fits into
this offense. So I just don't see it with Booty.
I think I just he has got good hands, you know,

(01:14:10):
and he's made some really tough catches this summer, But
I don't see the pull away speed. I think he's
more of a guy that needs to be off the
line of skirmage, you know, as a like a Z
receiver type, and I think they've got a bunch of
those guys, So you know, it's just Taekwon Thornton. Jalen
Raker They're kind of unique within this wide receiver battle,
and for me, that makes both of them locks. Neither
want a lock to play a lot, but I think

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they're both going to get looks on the outside. And
Booty just seems kind of redundant when you look at Bourne,
Polk Osbourne, you know, and even to a degree, Baker,
even though Baker don't have great hands, you know, I
still think he's a little bit in that kind of vicinity.
So it's a good Kaisehan Boody is a great example
tonight as a guy who's been pretty consistent going back
to camp. He's been healthy. But at the end of

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the day, for me, I look at one and three,
I look at Jalen Polk and I look at Douglas.
Those are two guys that move my radar, and you know, say,
these are guys to build around, that fill specific needs,
that are going to be here for a while, that
are young that we have to feed, that we have
to get involved, and I you know, keeping Kishan Boodi
around as like a six to seventh receiver. If he

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had great speed, I could make an argument for it,
but great hands, I don't know. That's why he's on
the bubble for me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Timely, timely email to answer it. Web radio at Patriots
dot com. This is about the point that you made
to Mary. This is from Kyle. Honestly, I think they
should go with Sly but keep Ryland on the practice
squad to give him red shirt year. I that one,
and I don't understand you guys, would you keep a
kicker on the practice squad.

Speaker 8 (01:15:37):
I wouldn't hate it, just just in case, you know,
Slade gets cold and starts missing kicks and you're like,
you have Ryland to switch out on. But I also
don't want to take up a spot on the roster
or on the practice squad that can be of more value.

Speaker 7 (01:15:52):
The only reason I leave the door open is because
they've kind of dabbled in this. And I know it's
a new regime, but they've dabbled in this like Nick
Folk and you know, had him on the practice squad
and had two kickers for a little bit and then
went with one. So they have done that. I just
think that have we.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
Seen enough for a year plus to think that they
should keep a practice squad open for a developmental kicker.
I guess that would be my think.

Speaker 7 (01:16:12):
I think you could probably go out after cut down
and find some of this and find somebody correct, you know, correct.
That would be my point too, and that would be
pause point too.

Speaker 8 (01:16:20):
I can't remember the caller's name, so I apologize, but
he had a second question. The second one was what
was success looked like for you for the Patriots, And
so I wanted to go back to that because I
don't think that success is going to look like wins
and losses. I think for me, it's going to be
looking at is the offense productive in the sense of
is it a struggle to score a touchdown? Is it

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a struggle to put points on the board. It was yes,
and so I would like to see the offense be
able to operate and actually not put us to sleep,
but put together plays, not be a struggle to get
down the field, not be going backwards after they have
a series or two. So for me, it's going to
look like scoring twenty plus points. They may not win
the game, they might still lose, but at least be

(01:17:01):
competitive in a way that it's not. You're not winning
games based off the defense holding a really explosive Miami
team to twelve points, like I want it to actually
be the offense putting points on the board, being fun
to watch, being explosive, and operating like an NFL offense should.
So that's for me what success would look like. It
might not equal go into the postseason, but at least

(01:17:21):
it's gonna show signs of progress.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
A good point.

Speaker 7 (01:17:24):
Well, I was gonna say for me, I mean, because
I mean, I hear I think you're saying it's true,
But like, what if that's Jacoby Brissett, Like Jacoby Erisset's
putting twenty points up a game?

Speaker 16 (01:17:32):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Is that that now we're even more confused. I mean,
it's you know, I still totally get what you're saying.

Speaker 7 (01:17:36):
I would just say for me, it's a little bit
more nebulous of I just want to spark this year.
I want to come out of this season feeling like
this team found some sparks and I hope, I hope
it's Drake's right, you know, And that's and that's like, well,
how are you gonna know, well know, because you could
win three games this year and still come out of
it feeling like, well, you know, but Drake May there's

(01:17:56):
a lot, there's something there, and look, we got a
top five pick again. We've got, you know, maybe some
some guys coming back that you know, Jalen Polk has
a really solid year, maybe Kayden Wallace emerges, and look,
we don't have to think about right tackle.

Speaker 4 (01:18:08):
Next year.

Speaker 7 (01:18:09):
We got Cayden Wallace is gonna come in and play
right tackle. We know we got them. When you you know,
some holes get filled that you right now just seems
impossible to a lot of people. I just want to
find a spark this year, right.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
The old Timer goes back to ninety three and Paul
remembers it that all will correctly point out that they
won four games prior to but bledsoe to Michael Timpson
down the sideline and the snow and everybody running off
the field jubilation, right, you know they that day they
were selling hope, it's gonna be all right, We've got
the future here in Bloodshoe. We're gonna win. Then went
to the playoffs next year, and so I think that

(01:18:40):
that game and that stretch down the end of ninety
three really got people believing they're going in the right direction.

Speaker 7 (01:18:46):
I got to go on a free Matt because I
know that I know how much you love NFL films,
like I do. And you know when they always make
the yearbooks and it always, you know, kind of starts
on like a high note where you know, probably for
that year, and I'm sure no open with that with
you know, there's something brewing in New England. Now, let's
tell you about the three wins season like then they
go through and how miserable it was, but it always
starts on a very high note. So I hope that

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they're able to put a season together where NFL films
can find that high note. And you know, but things
are coming in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
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Speaker 7 (01:19:25):
Alex affects Matt time time to do it? Okay, he's out, Okay, Alex,
he he would have stayed there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
Five pats five hundred our number. Also, you can reach
a set to do Matt Patriots dot Com. That's okay,
am I right with that? As I'm scrolling through, Oh,
this is a this is an interesting one here from
uh Vaughn, who wants to know why is Matt Jones
doing so well in Jacksonville? But couldn't do anything from

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the Pats. Is it me or is it just preseason?
But that's me editorializing. Is it all because of the
offensive line or could it be the Patriots coaching staff.
I'm concerned that we don't repeat the same issues with
Mac and Drake May. That's Yvonne from Toronto. I think
I would have to pump the brakes a little bit
on the Mac Jones and doing well in Jacksonville as
it's just preseason. But I digress.

Speaker 8 (01:20:17):
Yeah, I'm also with you on that. I've seen a
lot of people in the last two preseason games for
the Jaguars like saying, like, see, Mac Jones wasn't the problem,
Like he's great, Like he's gonna be so good, And
I'm like, guys put him in their Week one as
the starter and see what's gonna happen. He's gonna revert
back to his old ways. I think Deuce brought it up.
He's still throwing off his back foot, like it's still

(01:20:38):
very questionable things that he's doing.

Speaker 7 (01:20:39):
I just would say to any Patriot fan who's like
in the Mac Jones of it all right now, like, dude,
this is there's no comparison between what you have now
in number ten and what your old number ten look like.
I'm happy for Mac. I think he looked like he
looked in twenty twenty one. You know that that touchdown
he threw the other night, that's a Hunter Henry touchdown.
All day long, we saw him throw those kind of
touchdowns all the time. But I still when I watch

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him play, his athletic limitations and arm strength limitations are
always going to be present. So I think everybody, I mean,
Bill Belichick said Mac can play in this league. He
can play in this league. Guys like he can do
you want to build your team around him as your starter.
And it's not just the talent that you're trying to
hit your wag into. It's the kind of guy he
is and how he's going to play the game and

(01:21:23):
how he's going to react when it gets tough and
all that stuff. And I mean, you know, I mean,
we should bring up the comments that Doug Peterson made
if he reverts back to his Patriot ways, well.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
That was damning, wasn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:21:33):
I would say the Patriot ways you're talking about are
the things that Mac does as Mac, not that. Then
look the Patriots with him was a train wreck. He's
in a competent offense now, he knows what he's doing
in that and he needed a change of scenery. He
needed a change of scenery. It's great anybody though, who
thinks that, like Mac Jones is going to emerge as
a plus starter in this league. And you've got Drake
Maynow you've got a guy that can just flip the

(01:21:55):
ball and it goes sixty yards like that, no problem.
Who can run out of the pocket and make people miss.
You've got such a better a better setup, and a
better person to hit your wagon too. Now, So I'm
happy for Mac. I think you know, he's a good kid.
He deserved a second chance after how it all kind
of went sideways here. But he's going to be a
backup quarterback and that's that's what he is.

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Speaker 9 (01:22:29):
Hey good, uh, just curious, what do you guys think
I mean?

Speaker 16 (01:22:34):
Given the circumstances.

Speaker 19 (01:22:35):
I think it's pretty clear.

Speaker 14 (01:22:36):
Uh, and just what coach has said, they're.

Speaker 9 (01:22:38):
Gonna run with three quarterbacks, but what if anything happens tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
Or any circumstance.

Speaker 20 (01:22:43):
Do you see any circumstances where they keep all four quarterbacks?

Speaker 7 (01:22:47):
Yeah, I mean we touched on a little. I mean,
I I I can see it. I just think, I mean,
I I default to quarterback is the most important position
in this league. Last thing you want to ever end
up with is a situation where you have no one
who can play, or you have to thrust Drake May
and if you really don't think he's ready. But conversations
might be behind the scenes of look what happened to
Jacoby Brissett his rookie year. He got jammed in week

(01:23:09):
four because Tom Brady was suspended and Garoppolo got hurt.
So it's never a perfect scenario, and you can't have
like six quarterbacks just in case everybody gets hurt. But
you know, there is still some value in what you've
put into Bailey's appy so far. So I wouldn't just
dismiss it out of hand that they keep him around.

Speaker 8 (01:23:25):
I wouldn't be opposed to it. I mean, simply for
that same reason injuries. The Giants were struggling to find
quarterbacks last year. Daniel Joe Bahart, Tyrod got hurt, Joe
Flackoll get signed off the couch to the ground. So
it's like quarterbacks get injured a lot lately. I don't
know what's going on in the past couple of years,
but I wouldn't be opposed to keeping all four just
because you never know, you don't want to be scrambling
to find a guy off the couch in Week five.

Speaker 7 (01:23:47):
I'd say just one other thing too, Like I'm interested
to watch Joe Milton tonight. I mean, this was the
whole reason why I kind of was hoping, like not
at one point that like, oh when they got him,
like this is he's gonna make this hopefully fun. He
had a good showing the first game or the second game.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Did he revert to form against the Eagles?

Speaker 7 (01:24:02):
Yeah, well, I think it's regression to the mean, And
I think that's what you saw this week from Joe.
Great arm. You know, he's always gonna make some throws,
but you know, you're just curious if in this game
kind of situation, because it's so hard in practice, with
a guy like that, is the game slowing down for
him a little bit? You know, are they refining him?
You've seen strides from Drake. I'd like to see from
Joe Milton, because again, there's quality quarterbacks. There's great value

(01:24:26):
in having quarterbacks on your team that can play. So
I'm hopeful that he shows some strides to.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
We're a little a little over an hour before kickoff
tonight when the Patriots chack on the commanders down to Washington.
How do you think play time is gonna be divvied
up tonight for the final preseason game.

Speaker 7 (01:24:39):
I'm gonna say one series Forbriset, maybe two if it's short,
but one series for Brisset, three for May. The rest
is apmil Do do those two split the first quarter?
I mean, I don't know if I would say split
it because I think Drake May will have more snaps
than Jacoby Brissett, but I would say, I mean, I
think he's the wild card. I think May if he

(01:25:01):
gets just a few, or if they give him like
all the way till the end of the first half,
you know, give Jacoby the first one and then let
Drake finish out the second and then go third, fourth,
Milton Zappi.

Speaker 8 (01:25:11):
I was going to say Brissett entire first quarter and
then May quarter two, three, and then four be split
between Milton.

Speaker 7 (01:25:19):
I mean, I would love that. I'd love to see
extended Drake May. I mean that's that's what I'm about.

Speaker 8 (01:25:23):
Two full quarters for May, one for Berset, and split
Milton Zappie for the final quarter.

Speaker 7 (01:25:28):
But I would say two in the practices that we
watched this week, that's as much work as we've seen
May and Zappy get all summer long. Did I say May?
I meant Milton, Milton and Zappi the most that they've
they've gotten, so I anticipate.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
They will heavy dose of that.

Speaker 7 (01:25:41):
They'll probably have more than just the second then the
fourth quarter, as much as I'd love to see, you know,
extended May.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
Paul Pearler rejoins US now. Paul, I don't know if
you heard that question. I was getting to, how do
you think the quarterback reps are distributed tonight in the
preseason finale?

Speaker 5 (01:25:54):
Yeah, I would agree with largely with Mike said, I
think you'll get, you know, a little Brissette. I think
that they just want to see some off offensive progress
and then he'll be out. I think you might get
a couple of series from May, and then I think
it's all ZAPPI Milton. I don't know what order, but
I bet you you'll get a lot of those two.
I just I'm basing it on the practices. Yeah, those
two guys got a ton of reps this week.

Speaker 7 (01:26:15):
Sure, I mean it was like Zech, I mean, Milton,
get out there and take like two reps and then
it would be like six for May and then the
rest of them.

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
Eighty five five Pats, five hundred. Brayden from Florida joins
us next in Patriots pregame. Hi Braiden, Hi.

Speaker 9 (01:26:28):
Yah, my name is Keith Rose, mister Bacot. I live
here in Braiden and Florida, but I'm originally Providence, and
I want you guys to tell me if you think
what I'm getting ready to say it makes sense. I
go all the way back in my fifty second year
following the Patriots. I go all the way back to
Steve Brogan, and you know, I just renewed my Sunday
ticket for the twenty.

Speaker 14 (01:26:48):
Sixth year, and.

Speaker 9 (01:26:51):
I kind of tempered my expectations because of all the
championships that we want and I just see it as
though that if I get my expectation too high, then
I'm going to be let down really hard. So I
just kind of like take it year by year.

Speaker 11 (01:27:05):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:27:05):
You know, after we won the left Super Bowl twenty eighteen,
and I wish a lot of Patriots fans, if they're
longtime fans like me, we kind of like have that
same kind of expectations because then that way you kind
of like go along with everything kind of easy, and
that way you.

Speaker 19 (01:27:19):
Don't let yourself down really hard.

Speaker 9 (01:27:21):
Thanks a lot, guys, I love you, show Bo.

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
Body, Okay, thanks for the calls.

Speaker 7 (01:27:25):
Keith appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
A troubled doesn't want to get to let down Patriots.

Speaker 8 (01:27:31):
Yeah. I feel like this kind of goes back to
the success question that was asked earlier. It's like, what
does success look like for you? Paul we I think
we all shared what we thought success would look like
for us, But what do you think your expectations or
what do you think success is going to look like
for the Patriots, or what would you like it to
look like.

Speaker 5 (01:27:48):
Drake may just show me some signs that they got
they got their guy for the future with the third
overall pick, have him look comfortable by the end of
the season, productive and making some of those throws that
we think he can make and some of those off
platform plays that we think he can make on a
consistent basis down the stretch.

Speaker 8 (01:28:07):
Yeah, so not wins and losses, but more so growth
development and learning something about what you draft.

Speaker 5 (01:28:12):
I mean right now, in my mind, I don't care.
Now if all of a sudden it's much better than
we're anticipating, and you know you're hovering around five hundred,
I'll look for more. Like I've never been the guy
that adheres to the if you told me before the
season theory, because things change exactly, you know, like Red Sox. Well,
if you told me before this all you wanted from

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the Red Sox was a season you wanted to compete
for a playoff spot. Yeah, but then they had one,
and then now they're falling apart, So now you're disappointed.
So it's different, you know, Like I understand that you
can look at it and say, well, you didn't expect this,
So what do you let down for? That doesn't make
me feel any better?

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
Off platform, I love it. John from the Cape is emailing.

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
Let me talk about the XT receiver or the three technique.

Speaker 7 (01:28:55):
The three technique.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Okay, the shuffling of the old line to me is concerning.
They clearly didn't do enough on the edges. Robinson coming
on of late is encouraging, but still the blind side
is concerning. Also, Wolfe's comments about fair, Verdy and Low
were exaggerated to me. Watching him at preseason, it looks
no different than last season. He's a backup player of that.
What's your ideal starting five for the season, Gopat, says

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John Mike.

Speaker 7 (01:29:20):
I think, I mean, ideally, i'd love to see Kaden
Wallace emerge. I don't think he's there yet, but I
think that's a piece of it for me. But I
think right now to start the season it might be
what it is since Low got hurt with a core
of four on the left on when you at right tackle,
Robinson at right guard, and Andrews and so in the middle.
I mean, I think that it has the opportunity to be.
I can't say that I've seen him in competitive portions

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because these last couple of practices we've looked at are
kind of walked through pace, so it's it's hard to say,
but I think just based on the initial feeling going
into the season, that's probably it for me, but I
don't have it, like, I don't know for sure that
a kor Foorur can even play the left side.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Gonna find out a little bit. We'll take a probably
a look at that. Tonight's marity of a combination that
you like.

Speaker 8 (01:30:00):
So I was actually thinking about it. I was like, well,
making up this roster, you're probably keeping every single offensive
lineman at this point because you're still not sure about your.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Might be as many as nine for all of you roster.

Speaker 5 (01:30:12):
I think nine's are normal, but not all of them.
But I would keep nine guys.

Speaker 7 (01:30:15):
Yeah, Calvin Anderson's a question.

Speaker 5 (01:30:18):
Calvin Anderson out, Mafi out kellend how Charles Turner Charles
Turner for Zuri Henry Liam Foornadell is a handful that
I would let go and probably have some of those
guys on the practice squad have some depth for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Eight five five pass five hundred. The number one from
New York joins us next on Patriots pre game high run.

Speaker 20 (01:30:39):
Hey, good even guys, thanks for taking the call tonight.
I just wanted to get your thoughts on the Patriots
running backs. I haven't heard it talked about a lot,
and I know, great Madre is going to be the
you know, the feature and look for big things, especially
in this new zone you know zone scheme that that
a VP's put in. But I heard a lot about

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it and tone Gibson when he came over, you know,
splitting him out wide and getting him involved in the
passing game with his roots going back to wide receiver
in college. I haven't really seen that in the preseason. Now,
was that just because they're being really vanilla or do
you think Hasty has really stepped into that, you know,
quote unquote third down back rule and then would that
make Gibson just the change of pace guy for Remandre.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
Love the question run. Thank you very much, Paul, you
won't hit that one first.

Speaker 5 (01:31:25):
I think Gibson's been the third down guy, and I
think Hasty too. I think the way they have the
running back room situated, it's sort of Stevenson and Harris
as the traditional between the ball between the tackles ball carriers,
and then Gibson and Jamichael Hasty as third down types. Now,
I think Gibson can. I think he's more of a

(01:31:46):
ball carrier than Hasty is. But yeah, no, I've been
in He can catch the ball. I mean, his ability
to catch the ball out of the backfield is probably
at a higher level than anybody they've had since James White.
I don't want to put him in James White's category
because I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
He's in it.

Speaker 7 (01:32:01):
He isn't, but I just haven't really had anybody in
that rule.

Speaker 5 (01:32:04):
I do think that he has that ability, and that's
how they've used him. I don't necessarily look at him
as a split him out wide and try to run
regular to rel like you know, I.

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
Say harris body type too similar to the other two guys.
Does that hurt him at all?

Speaker 7 (01:32:17):
I just I don't know if I don't know if Harrison,
Harris or Stevenson really truly fit this kind of wide
zone kind of stuff. I mean, I think Gibson definitely does.
I just wonder if it's going to be as divvied
up as it used to be, where it was so concrete,
like Paul kind of laid out like a Remandre first second,
and then Gibson goes out like I feel like they
want to get they want to get Remandre involved in
the passing game too. I think he's he's got some skills.

(01:32:38):
I just I think I want a little bit more,
a little bit more balanced in terms of just I
agree with you, like even just even if it's just
given Harris some early downcarries, you know, and keeping remondre
more for the guy to have it moments. But I'm
curious how it all, how it all plays out. Does
Harris or Hasty touch the ball when it counts? I
still don't know if that's true.

Speaker 5 (01:32:56):
Now, I agree with Mike's point about that. With with Stevenson,
I I do think that they like I mean, look, listen,
he's a very good receiver. Cut sixty sixty seven passes.
I think two years ago. I don't think that's a
great use of him because I don't think he's overly dynamic,
And all that does to me is it wears him down.
You know, I'd rather have him fresher with you know,

(01:33:16):
fifteen eighteen twenty carries and maybe you know a catcher
two then fifteen carries plus seven catches that are you know,
he was pretty low yards per reception kind of guy,
even that year that he had the uh, the big volume.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Can handle Can he handle the eighteen carries a game?

Speaker 11 (01:33:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:33:34):
I think if he can't do that, then that's that's
a really bad signing.

Speaker 7 (01:33:38):
I just think they're their signaled desire to be a
heavy screen team. Oh yeah, it's that's all the good
point that that I think Hasty, not so much Harris,
but but those three with Hasty, Gibson, Stevenson, of those
guys can all run screen, so I had a wide variety.

Speaker 5 (01:33:54):
Harris is not much of a threat in the passing game.
The other three can be.

Speaker 7 (01:33:57):
And we see it to Paul just to point out,
like pretty much start of every pre they usually do
this drill with the offensive line and just the quarterbacks
where they run screens, but the quarterbacks are the actually
the ones catching the screens and consistent warm up drill
that they have almost always done.

Speaker 5 (01:34:11):
And you know once once Bailey Zappy gets it in
space watch out.

Speaker 7 (01:34:15):
Yeah, no, it's pretty funny. I mean it's almost a
good question. Like just for Alex van Pelte, why do
you have the court. I mean, I assume it's so
they understand the other side of it, the spacing of it.
But once the other day Alex van Pelt mentioned we
really want to be a screen team.

Speaker 5 (01:34:28):
I heard that.

Speaker 7 (01:34:28):
I kind of connected those two things with like, He's right, man,
they do they do that screen drill every single day,
so they're getting ready to run a lot of There's.

Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
A crazy question for you. Is here a scenario where
four running.

Speaker 7 (01:34:37):
Backs are kept? I don't think you really have to.

Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
I don't know, Oh they'll keep four running back they
don't have any on the roster.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
How do you not have four running team?

Speaker 7 (01:34:47):
I just haven't seen.

Speaker 4 (01:34:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:34:48):
I mean, I don't know who they're going to be.
It might be someone who's not on the roster right now.
But I mean, if you want to be a run
heavy team and then lead the league in screens and
you're not going to have four running backs right.

Speaker 7 (01:34:59):
Now, that's a good point. I just I just look
at the roster and you're like, well, which of these
guys really do you have to have? And you don't
think would make it through? There's two of them for me?
And you know, I mean, I hear everything you're saying.
It's it's what it's what we talk about when we
make this fifty three man monster. And I kind of
get to about forty one forty two guys and I'm like,
all right, I'll put on Mitchell will Cox, I'll put
on Jim Michael Hasty like, yeah, you know, I can

(01:35:19):
see why. But at the end of the day, are
these guys that like I gotta have and are gonna
be core pieces and they you know, it's more about depth.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
Okay, I think it's time of the show now, Matt,
give me a little thumbs up. If we're doing we're
gonna go enemy behind enemy lines. Great, good timing for that.

Speaker 6 (01:35:32):
You know, the view from New England, but what about
the view from the other side.

Speaker 5 (01:35:36):
And that's why you're our favorite pregame show guest.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
Yeah, every year here and you know you tell everybody
that I was on with you guys at twenty eighteen
Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 16 (01:35:45):
Yeah, and I will quote out with the favorite game
for the show.

Speaker 6 (01:35:48):
No time now to go behind enemy lines.

Speaker 5 (01:35:51):
My god, it's gotta ride one.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
And as we go behind enemy lines, we're please to
welcome Liam Griffin from The Washington Times. You can reach
him on at by Liam Griffin. Liam, it's great to
have you on the show tonight Sunday Night football the
w Washington Commanders against the New England Patriots. It's the
preseason finale literally for the league. What's the atmosphere like
down in DC or in Landover?

Speaker 4 (01:36:14):
Excuse me, you.

Speaker 5 (01:36:19):
Hare to punch him up?

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
Oh we're oh on the phone stadium. Yeah, sorry about
that operator error.

Speaker 14 (01:36:26):
Liam.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
Thanks for having us, sir, Yes, sir, all right?

Speaker 10 (01:36:28):
Yeah, so yeah we are in Landover, Maryland. I'm coming
to you live from the press box. Yeah. It sphere
is pretty good here at Commander's Field formally known as
FedEx Field. They unveiled a straying, new code of paint,
new food offerings, and doesn't see first and only preseason
game for the Commanders at Commander's Field this year. So
there's there's a lot of buzz, even though a lot
of the starters aren't playing. Fans so happy to be

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out here.

Speaker 7 (01:36:50):
Hey, Liam, I just want to ask you about our
counterpart down there, the second overall, if it picked Jayden Daniels,
just what was it like watching him through the spring
and summer and what kind of development did you see
from him over that time.

Speaker 10 (01:37:02):
Yeah, So he's someone who really arrived as advertised, everything
that you heard about him coming into the pre draft process,
about his decision making, about his accuracy, about his athleticism.
That's something that we saw, but we saw him take
on more of a leadership role as the offseason went on,
as he took more snaps during training camp. They had
kind of a gradual transition from the veteran Marcus Marrio

(01:37:24):
to Jade Daniels. That's something I'm sure you guys have
seen a lot of in New England as well. So
it's really seen him get more comfortable in the offense
and that's something that we've noticed throughout the preseason games
as well. So it's a long process. Everyone will tell
you that the NFL season is a barrasson, not a sprint,
especially when you're talking about young quarterbacks. But every single
little bit we've seen is gonna fans lots of excited about.

Speaker 5 (01:37:44):
So Liam, I know we're not going to see Jayden tonight,
but I assume that's the case with most of the
frontline guys. Are there some young guys, maybe some new
guys to the commanders that maybe you know, some names
that are less familiar that we might be keeping an
eye on tonight.

Speaker 10 (01:38:00):
Yeah, So I've got a couple who are my go
to training camp standouts who I will tell everybody about.
I was shot it from the rooftops. I'll start on defense.
The Commanders have a lot of safeties that they are
working with, which makes sense because of dan Quinn's defense.
He likes these kind of safe defensive facts you can
drop down in the box and kind of play a
linebacker role as well. And number forty Tyler Owens, with

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an undrafted free agent out of Texas Tech. He is
someone who has shined throughout the preseason and he's really
impressed during the training camp period as well. He is
an absolutely incredible athlete. He got close to the world
record in the broad jump during his pre draft testing
and that I thought is as a miss shown on
the field. So Tyler Owens is someone who we didn't
know a lot about coming in but has seemingly earned

(01:38:41):
a roster spot. They'll be playing tonight and he's someone
to look for in the Commander's secondary and then at
wide receiver, similar kind of really competitive position battle. As
a lot of starters are sitting out, the Commanders will
be looking for their fifth and sixth wide receiver. And
I really like number eighty nine Braceon Tremaine on the
Commander's offense. He is six foot four and he looks
every bit of it. It's like Commandos have kind of

(01:39:02):
a small wide receiver room. They have a lot of
shiftier guys, a lot of guys who can perform well
in the slot, but Bryce's train provides an amount of
size that the room is kind of lacking at times.
So the team brought in Bartavis Bryant to someone who
I'm sure that the people watching this might know, former Steeler,
former Raider, played in a handful of different professional leagues
and it's making his NFL comeback, is also providing that size.

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So I'd look to see both of them as they
try to earn their roster spot as one of the
last wide receivers on the board for Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
Dan Quinn's first year with the Commanders, Liam, And you've
mentioned a couple of times that you don't expect to
see a lot of starters tonight for Washington. How is
this fitting into how he's trying to run his program
as preseason is winding up as Washington gets ready for
the regular season.

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:39:49):
So dan Quinn is someone who emphasizes competition. Literally every
single time we talk about him. It is his favorite
topics at every press conference. Every time I pull him
to the side, after practice us to talk about competition.
So at the top of the depth chart, you might
not have that same competition. Terry mclaurin's going to be
the top wide receiver, Shane dan is going to start
a quarterback, and so he's tried to kind of imview

(01:40:12):
this roster with that sense of competition, and it seems
like that message is sticking. Players are running for fumbles.
You're seeing players really try to high point the ball
whenever they can. You don't see people take a lot
of plays off, and when you do, you'll see Dan
Quinn talk to them about it. So that's something that
we've noticed and every coach says that they want to
they want to bring at a competitive atmosphere to their roster,

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but with coach Quinn, it's something that seems to be
sticking to the players as well.

Speaker 7 (01:40:37):
William, just one more for me. I'm looking at the
depth chart here. Brandon coleman or rookie playing left tackle.
For you guys, just how did what was is that accurate?
Is he your top left tackle? How did he emerge
in camp? We're having a lot of conversations here about
the tackle position. I'm just you know, you guys drafted
a quarterback you needed to tackle too. What's the story
been with the rookie on the left side there.

Speaker 10 (01:40:56):
Yeah, so he's someone else who really started to emerge
during the rookie Muni camp and during the organized team activities.
He was really not projected to be the starter, but
he started getting those first team reps pretty early. He
started missing some time with a shoulder injury, and so
we really didn't get to see him as much throughout
the preseason. He will not be playing tonight either. But again,
he's someone else who is just an athletics phenomenon. Can

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He was a basketball player, grew up in Germany playing
basketball as a point guard actually, so he has an
incredible high jump. He's someone who really took on this role,
as you know, the left tackle for the Washington Commanders.
He adapted to that really quickly, and so obviously that's
an important position. One of the big concerns for the
Commanders and for Commanders fans going into the season is

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how can you protect the quarterback. The team allowed the
second most back in the league last year, and that's
not something that you can have when you have a quarterback.
With Jayden Daniels's stature. So having a rookie left tackle
like that who can come in and start day one
is going to be really vital for this team as
they look to build towards the future.

Speaker 17 (01:41:57):
Leam.

Speaker 5 (01:41:58):
Before we let you go, I just wanted to ask
you about, well, the Johan Dotson trade. You know, were
you surprised by that? Surprised with their willingness to sort
of deal a guy like that in division?

Speaker 10 (01:42:09):
So I'm not surprised by the fact that the trade happened.
That's something that the writing was kind of on the wall.
We didn't see him flash as much during training camp
and joint practices and during the preseason games. And you
also got to remember that the commandits said a lot
of turnovers throughout the organization this offseason, new coach, new
general manager, and so John Dotson is a former first
round pick, but he wasn't a first round pick for

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coach Dan Quinn and for general manager Adam Peters. And
if you're not able to shine in Cliff Kingsberry's offense,
then they're going to take.

Speaker 20 (01:42:36):
The next man up.

Speaker 10 (01:42:37):
The fact that it was within the division is something
that I wasn't a little bit surprised by. But it
makes sense for the Eagles in where they're at and
trying to contend, bringing injo Han Dotson as a kind
of you know, high ceiling, low floor kind of guy.
They're willing to take those chances, whereas Washington, Okay, they're
looking to get as much draft capital as they can
to keep building towards the future because that third round pick,

(01:42:59):
you know, into a Brandon Goldman who maybe will be
another anchor tackle for you going down the line.

Speaker 3 (01:43:05):
Liam Griffin of The Washington Times, we appreciate taking the
time tonight for us to help us on Patriots pregame.
Have a great night, everybody, all right, thank God? Great
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Brent Musburger used to say, it's a Patriot warm ups
and I see, Paul, you weren't here when we had
this discussion. See a little bit of David Andrews on
your screen? Do you anticipate seeing David Andrews on your

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screen when they kick.

Speaker 27 (01:45:47):
It off today he's snapping at Joe Milton, Uh uh yeah,
with Noel Mills and you know, just the wiley Veteran
Miked So pointed out during our break that it didn't
look like Andrews was gonna play because he's not really
taped up, been wearing a.

Speaker 7 (01:46:00):
Glove shirt, disheveled.

Speaker 5 (01:46:02):
I would I would probably say Mike has a pretty
good at the rent on that and plus the fact
that he's snapping to Milton no disrespect to Milton, but
Leverett is I'm sorry, Yeah, Dick Leverett is snapping to
Jacoby Brissette, which tells me that that's more than likely
going to be the group that starts.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
And by the way, pretty pretty smart decision here, right.

Speaker 7 (01:46:21):
Yeah, I got to protect the big guy in the middle.
It's no question about it. They've kind of been managing
him all summer long. I mean him Jonathan Jones. I
think Jonathan Jones actually was battling, you know, a little something.
I don't know if Andrews Is necessarily has gotten dinged up,
but they've they've they've been careful with him, especially with
the center depth that they've had.

Speaker 5 (01:46:37):
Well, that part of it I think makes it even
more important, Like they have they don't feel comfortable with
the guys behind him.

Speaker 7 (01:46:43):
Yeah, and then and the Liam Forornandell kid. It's worth
pointing out, you know, they trying Antonio Maffi out there
for a while, and then I don't know, about a
week and a half ago, maybe a little bit less.
This kid, Liam Fournidelle came in and he's been snapping
for them, so he's he's kind of the backup guy.

Speaker 15 (01:46:56):
Now.

Speaker 7 (01:46:56):
I assume he'll be out there with you know, Drake May.
He'll get a bunch of snaps.

Speaker 3 (01:46:59):
Then into your emails at web radio at Patriots dot com.
Here's one from Jeffrey from Canada. Wow, for all the
discussions and even anger about the Patriots receiving group during
the off season, you could make a strong argument that
were actually worse at the position today than we are
going to Week one last year. How is that even possible?
Writes Jeffrey from Canada.

Speaker 5 (01:47:19):
Oh, Canada, I don't believe you are I believe you
the same.

Speaker 7 (01:47:22):
Yeah, you're probably.

Speaker 5 (01:47:23):
I mean you're you're basically swapping Jalen Rager and Case
I don't know, Jalen Rager and Jalen Polk for DeVante
Parker and Juju Smith Schuster.

Speaker 7 (01:47:33):
Yeah, I mean, I I'll take, you know, a rookie
like Jalen Polk over over Smith Schuster and the corpse.

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
It was DeVante parkerknew what I don't think you knew.

Speaker 7 (01:47:43):
What happened with Douglass. What did you say the same thing?

Speaker 5 (01:47:45):
Yeah, No, I think you're you're about the same. I
don't I don't look at this as being worse than
they were last year.

Speaker 7 (01:47:52):
But I think it's a different flavor where you look.
Oh yeah, but what you know, I mean, I'd much
rather go with a rookie than trying to squeeze something
out of you know, Juju Smith Schuster at the end.
And you didn't know what you had with Pop Douglas
last year going into the season. You mean you thought
maybe he'd be okay, but uh, you know, I think
he's established himself as a pretty good slot receiver. So
I mean, it's it's a fair question. I mean, I
think the the Parker of it all to me is

(01:48:13):
where the because I didn't like, I don't know, he
had some moments last year, some moments, but I and
I mean that good.

Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
I would say decisively they're better this year than they
were last year.

Speaker 7 (01:48:24):
So what didn't you say? Who is the who had
the most catches in camp last year?

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
I mean, probably like Parker the fate Like you.

Speaker 5 (01:48:30):
Guys didn't hear the question? The question was heading into
last year and heading into this year, like, it's kind
of the same.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
I think, like, but based on who I think the
promise of Polk is better than any of what you
had from a resume of Schuster in.

Speaker 5 (01:48:46):
But the promise of Juju Smith Schuster last year heading
into the season was that he was going to replace Jakobe.

Speaker 7 (01:48:52):
It's a good counter Paul. I like that one.

Speaker 5 (01:48:54):
I personally didn't think there was any pro that he
was going to do it, but I was the only
one I.

Speaker 3 (01:48:57):
Said, Hi, there might have been an upgrade. But I
think that that we quickly found out that that wasn't
the case now. But I mean, the bigger point for.

Speaker 7 (01:49:06):
Me is that you got a first and a second
year receiver who seemed like they're going to be involved,
So you know, you're maybe starting to rebuild now, and look,
the big piece has to come. That's what will elevate
everything I see.

Speaker 11 (01:49:15):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:49:15):
That's Mike's point, I think is the one I would
really go with the most is I would rather have
two rookies in the second year guy that I don't
know about. I still don't know anything about any of
those three guys. Contrary to the ascension of to Mario
Douglas to Wes Welker status. I don't really know anything
about any of those three guys, but I would rather
have those three guys than Devonte Parker, Juju Smith shoot

(01:49:37):
guys that have sort of already peaked and are on
the way down. I have the promise of something new
and if it hits now with Matt Smith, I got
Jalen Polk who's going to give me, you know, a
little juice in that receiver room that I didn't have
last year. And I have to Mario Douglas, who might
be able to take, you know, and build off of
what I thought was a promising rookie year nothing more,

(01:49:58):
nothing less, and make that even better in year two.
I think that's much more exciting.

Speaker 7 (01:50:03):
I think there's another X factor too that uh that
maybe maybe being overly optimistic, but just the way that
Hooper and Henry, I mean, Henry's been hurt, but the
way that Hooper and Henry look, the way that the
Titans performed in the Cleveland offense last year, I mean,
I have I have a hope that those two guys
are going to be productive in this offense and that
they're going to bring a little bit more even though
it's the same guy that they're a little bit more involved.

Speaker 5 (01:50:23):
I hope they do too. I hope they do too.
I'm just going off of last year at this time,
not last year. What ended up happening.

Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you are looking live at
keep saying that love it in landover Maryland and Drake
may there's the future, and the question is tonight how
much of the future are we going to get?

Speaker 7 (01:50:42):
Look at that camera, I mean, just this guy.

Speaker 5 (01:50:44):
Look at this guy's segues. It's like he's been doing
this all his life. We dropped two calls. There was
another one when I was out.

Speaker 7 (01:50:51):
I might have been the callers fall.

Speaker 3 (01:50:52):
Well, you know what, in all honesty, I didn't realize
I had to q uh behind enemy lines so percent
so got to do better.

Speaker 5 (01:51:01):
Gotta do better, Gonna watch the film.

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
Gotta do better.

Speaker 5 (01:51:04):
To watch the film.

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
As we see some of the Patriots coming on the field,
I see a guy like Kyle Duggar and and Coach
Mayo said, if you're healthy, you're going to play tonight.
Do you think Douggar plays tonight?

Speaker 7 (01:51:14):
Mike, Uh, briefly at all, But I don't think he's one.
He's one on the list. We know what we got,
and there's there's some.

Speaker 3 (01:51:20):
SegNet guy Gonzalez. Do you think Gonzalez plays tonight and
Paul you would probably make an argument he should play.

Speaker 5 (01:51:26):
I would say no, and I would say that he
also Gerardmeo also said that, you know, some of these
guys might not play like we don't some guys that
don't necessarily have anything to prove like he kind of
had a funny phrase that he used in one of
those I told you those just.

Speaker 7 (01:51:42):
A little a little color here too. Just the commanders
of nounce thirty four players that will not participate to WOW.

Speaker 5 (01:51:49):
Season is what everybody's really doing around the league now.
I do find it interesting that some team, you know,
like Carolina, Oh, last night, on my twitter feed, I
didn't pay attention to any of it because I didn't
really care, But on my Twitter fee was littered with
screenshots of twenty thirty forty players not playing in the game,
you know, from various teams. I just thought it was

(01:52:13):
interesting to see, like Carolina with Bryce Young, like that's
what you're looking for tonight for perset, Like I'm going
to start you because I want to see something. Now,
Bryce Young hadn't played in the first few games. He
goes out six for eight touchdown, good solid drive for
the Panthers. Good now go sit over there, got out
her go out of this one. No one got hurt. Yeah,
because he actually was running around a little bit too

(01:52:35):
young in for a preseason game. I don't necessarily think
you want that. I mean I saw on Twitter Danie
Rolofsky was talking about early in the San Francisco game. Again,
I didn't see any of this. Brock Purdy was sort
of running around under pressure and taking more hits than
you'd like to see in a preseason game.

Speaker 7 (01:52:51):
It's a little bit of Will Levis today playing Calvin
Ridley playing. So I got to take inventory of the
league because, as I said to Matt, nobody knows like
no one's defined. I think ye Sason game putting a
green more. Some teams have done it one way. Some
teams have done it, and but I would say for
the Patriots, a young team, new offense, new coaches, they
got to.

Speaker 4 (01:53:09):
Play, you know, like no.

Speaker 5 (01:53:10):
Washington's guys in the same situation, not planning. Everybody's doing
it different. On the other side of the glass, uh,
Matt Morrels having a conniption. We need to get to
the over Unders. This is a maiden voyage for me.

Speaker 6 (01:53:23):
It's time for this week's edition of Over Unders bom
oh so good. Last week Paul and Mike two and
four No socks zero zero?

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
What if I have stained? Can you nor? I? I
need your Okay, here we go. So first, first question,
Joe Milton Drive started.

Speaker 6 (01:53:45):
It's my job, Matt. Joe Milton Drive started two and
a half about.

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
Explain that to me maybe in the pre show meeting.

Speaker 5 (01:53:51):
Okay, that's the fact that Matt's gonna fight morele you'll
lose by the way, he was a marine.

Speaker 7 (01:53:58):
I know I'm gonna go. I'm gonna us off with
an over on the Joe Milton two point five drives.

Speaker 5 (01:54:03):
I'm gonna agree with Mike. I think he will be
out there for more than more than two drives, so
I will take the over as well.

Speaker 6 (01:54:10):
Yes, over Drake may completions four and a.

Speaker 5 (01:54:14):
Hey, well this better be over otherwise I think we're
gonna have another post game show, so I'm gonna take
the over.

Speaker 7 (01:54:24):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm you're hum I think
you're up this time, I'm gonna go under under all right,
care to make it interesting, I'm going.

Speaker 6 (01:54:32):
Over Ramandre Stevenson rushing yards twenty two.

Speaker 17 (01:54:36):
And a half.

Speaker 5 (01:54:37):
That's you, Matt, Matt, you go first to under under under,
I'm gonna go under.

Speaker 16 (01:54:42):
Kids.

Speaker 5 (01:54:42):
Yeah, I'm gonna make that one unanimous. I don't think
he'll be in the game. And let's see. Let's say
pop on one pop pop pop popre pop always.

Speaker 6 (01:54:50):
Pause, Jamichael Hasty receptions one and a half.

Speaker 7 (01:54:53):
Oh, Joemichael Dusa is going over, Michael.

Speaker 5 (01:55:00):
You know what, I'm gonna take the over too, because
I think they're gonna need someone to catch those little checkdowns.
That's all they offensive left.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
So yeah, let's round it out and go with an over.

Speaker 6 (01:55:12):
All right, Washington Commander touchdowns at a half.

Speaker 15 (01:55:16):
This is me.

Speaker 5 (01:55:17):
I'm gonna say they score a touchdown, so I'm gonna
take the over.

Speaker 7 (01:55:21):
Pretty pretty bold strategy and Cotton that was on today,
it's always on. I'm gonna go under it to shut.

Speaker 6 (01:55:27):
Out and total score twenty four and a half.

Speaker 7 (01:55:32):
That's a good number.

Speaker 5 (01:55:33):
That's a twenty four a you know, so twenty five
would be over right correct.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
I'll go over, but barely.

Speaker 7 (01:55:41):
I'm gonna go over Pat's roll.

Speaker 5 (01:55:43):
Yeah. I don't know who's rolling, but I got to
take the over twenty four and a half.

Speaker 7 (01:55:47):
I mean, I love when you have disdained for the number.

Speaker 5 (01:55:51):
Yeah, I think it's supposed to be thirty four and
a half.

Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
For mats By.

Speaker 5 (01:55:54):
They're like, I should maybe I should just maybe I
shouldn't just make them up.

Speaker 16 (01:56:01):
On the internet.

Speaker 6 (01:56:03):
An influencer told me last week, I had three.

Speaker 7 (01:56:05):
Wow, this is a great one.

Speaker 3 (01:56:06):
All right, So madam compiling notes, there isn't open for
over under everything that you run it. Okay, very good.

Speaker 7 (01:56:12):
He loves open, so you need to with the Sunday.
With the Sunday he opens terrific.

Speaker 3 (01:56:18):
Yeah, yeah, very very well produced, like a lot. I
just I got a better job on show prep. Matt
my bed okay. Uh So we're looking live here at
little team Stretch going on down in Landover, Maryland tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:56:31):
Matt Landers number nine, he said, Yeah, he's a tall
drink of water.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
By the way, he doesn't fit the profile right.

Speaker 7 (01:56:38):
He sticks out. He's got some speed. You can see
why they why they grabbed him after they lost with
cha Kuai Jackson say his name very good right at
the top of my head. But he actually kind of
nice seat. Milton missed him on one and then Milton
him on another pass this week, pretty nice one. You
can see a little bit of what he what he does.
I mean, he's kind of in the Taekwon mode.

Speaker 5 (01:56:56):
And there's our guy right there, Terrell Jennings in the
four brown, you know, Paul. I just I'm like he
might knock Kevin Harris off the roster.

Speaker 7 (01:57:03):
I just am I seeing like he's my anti del Pettis,
Like del Pettis, I had no idea. People have been
talking about del Pettis all summer. I'm like, I saw
him get that goal one stop, but otherwise I haven't
seen him do a single thing in practice. I just
he just hasn't caught my eye. I'm not saying anything
that he's not doing anything. I just haven't seen it.
But Terrell Jennings, every time he does something, he catches
my eye. And I think he moves well, and I
think he catches the ball well. And maybe I'm crazy

(01:57:25):
and he's gonna get cut in two days and they'll
never play again.

Speaker 5 (01:57:27):
But I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:57:28):
I think there's something there.

Speaker 5 (01:57:29):
Maybe I think he's got a chance to be on
the practice squad.

Speaker 7 (01:57:31):
Anyway, like all those running backs, right, I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:57:34):
If you're only keeping four running backs, you need some help.

Speaker 3 (01:57:37):
Let him on the practice and if you're struggling to
get to forty seven, like what are we doing?

Speaker 12 (01:57:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:57:41):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:57:42):
But he continues to just kind of be buried behind
the top guys. So I don't know if he's getting
a legit chance. I don't know if he can. Maybe
he's got a waste to go. He popped last week,
pop up a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:57:53):
I mean twenty did you have like a twenty yard right? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:57:55):
Yeh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:57:56):
I put him all the way almost to reminder Stevens's.

Speaker 7 (01:57:59):
Total right exactly. Get them out there. I don't know,
see some Milton, some Zappi, Mike, you really don't like
these uniforms much better than that's an offair conversation, much
better than the Blues.

Speaker 5 (01:58:14):
You can't talk about it if we like, what are
we doing here?

Speaker 7 (01:58:18):
I'm just gonna say it right now for all the
fans out there, I said, the old uniforms have to
come back. The dynasty uniforms have to come back. At
some point. You want six Super Bowls in them? Why
do you why break that?

Speaker 5 (01:58:27):
You know with two minutes left. These are the kinds
of things I like to to throw out there. Now.
Do you really like the Dynasty uniforms or do they
need to come back based on the amount of Dynasty they.

Speaker 7 (01:58:37):
I loved them from the first time. I love the
font on the name plate, I love the numbers, I
like the way it's matched up, and these ones just
feel disjointed to me. They don't really feel like they're connected.

Speaker 5 (01:58:47):
I would never have even thought about changing them based
on all the success they had them because I'm.

Speaker 7 (01:58:51):
A believer in that brand identity, right.

Speaker 5 (01:58:54):
But I don't particularly like I just feel like those,
I will say, are better than I feel like these
uniforms we're looking at are going to be retired as
the those were the Dark Years uniform. It's like the
ninety three, the ninety three uniform with the red number, Like, no, well,
that's like the next year supposed to be one of
those dorks. That's that's ninety number.

Speaker 7 (01:59:15):
Then they went soccer numbers. Some people in like the
soccer numbers.

Speaker 5 (01:59:18):
Yeah I didn't.

Speaker 7 (01:59:19):
I'm team great Pants though, so stop tweeting that at me.
I'm with you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:59:22):
So after some thrilling uniform talk, that'll wrap up the
pregame show.

Speaker 5 (01:59:27):
We got the finish line, didn't We did it?

Speaker 10 (01:59:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:59:30):
Not bad, not bad. Maybe a little too much on
the uniforms down the stretch.

Speaker 7 (01:59:34):
Your glasses cleared up. You were able to do things
little absolutely right.

Speaker 5 (01:59:37):
You could see, you can focus.

Speaker 3 (01:59:39):
Hope I didn't drag you guys down too much. Patriots
against the Commanders from Landover Maryland kick tonight probably about
eight oh seven. Will be back after the game to
get all the analysis from Mike and Paul on what
went right and what went wrong. Please join us for
the postgame show. Thank you very much. Enjoy the game.

Speaker 12 (01:59:57):
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