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September 4, 2023 42 mins

I didn't realize it until Shelby said it while we were recording, but I've known her for 10 years now.

This episode is a little different because I'm having a conversation with someone that I know but we still discuss some things about each other that we didn't know.

Shelby works at Baylor University in the athletic department, serving as director of communications. We spend some time catching up, talking about how and why she works in sports, her various career stops, and more.

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