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Speaker 1 (00:11):
How's it going, guys, Thanks for clicking on to today's
episode of the Phil Talk Sports Podcast. Really excited to
bring this one to you. Before I get to today's guest,
a little bit of a channel update, if you will. Now.
I was able to break this news earlier in the
week on the Facebook page, So if you haven't already,
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bit sooner. But this is the first time I get
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to talk about it on an episode. So earlier this week,
I confirmed to be an official partner of PWR Pro
Wrestling Rebellion. I had their heavyweight champion Shane Evans on
as a guest about a month ago now, and I've
been working with them a little bit closer.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
What that means for me and you guys as the
viewer is I will get exclusive access to interview the wrestlers.
But the first one of those is going to be today.
For today's episode, we are bringing on professional wrestler of
over twenty years. He goes by the entitled Millennial Forest Nystrom.
Now I've gotten to get to know this guy over
the past couple of weeks, as my relationship with PWR
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has improved, and I got to say, he's an interesting dude.
I think you guys are really gonna like this conversation
that we're gonna have here. We talk about, you know,
his journey through wrestling, his likes, his dislikes, his time
in PWR, where he's been, and where he's hoping to
go with his wrestling career. So everyone should lock in.
And I don't normally do this. I don't like to
be the police subscribe guy. I know that it's annoying
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in all the videos you watch, but if you are
a PWR fan or a pro wrestling fan in general,
I would recommend subscribing now so you don't miss these
interviews that you're not gonna get anywhere else. So that's
the one and only time I'm going to say stuff
like that. With all that being said, here's the interview
with the entitled Millennial Forest Nystrom all right, joining me
now on the show. A member of the PWR roster,
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A pro wrestler of over twenty years. He goes by
the entitled millennial Forest Nystrom. Forest, thanks for doing this, man,
I appreciate your time today.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Thanks for having me on I'm really glad that I'm
the second guest and I bond before that that bench
player Kyle Steele. So and you know, I'm sorry I
have to you know, you caught me at a bad time.
You know, it's still a little early here on the
West Coast right now.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, I really appreciate what the time difference that this
this took a couple of weeks to put together. But
you know, we made the announcement about the partnership and
you were the first one to volunteer. So I really appreciate,
uh you doing all this and all the flights you
make back and forth to make p w R. Man,
You're you're a trooper. People they give you a bad
rap sometimes, man, but you really you do a lot
for the company.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's That's the thing. Like everybody wants to paint me,
it's this bad guy and as this you know, terrible person.
But yet they don't understand that I'm taking flights from
the West Coast. Those are five hour flights, you know,
to come and wrestle in that dump and put a
show on for these people. You know, it's not an
easy task, you know, And I that comes out of
my pocket. BWR an't paying for those things like like,
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how could I be the bad guy here when I'm
coming in to wrestle for a company.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Well, you know, I don't know if every company wrestle
for views you as bad guy or a good guy
or what may have. But you know, you've done this
for a long time, twenty years now, over twenty years,
if I'm not mistaken. So a lot of people take Okay, yeah,
a lot of people are wrestling fans. They live it,
they breathe it, they watch everything. Let's go back to
the beginning. At what point did you make the transition
from like I'm a fan of wrestling to I want
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to give this a try. How did that all start
for you?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So I was, like I mentioned on the Proud Opinions
podcast when I was on their you know, growing up,
I was like, you know, I've always been a wrestling fan.
You know, I would watch WWE, but then I started
going I was more of a WCW guy because if
the cruiserwaights same, you know they you know, yeah, they
had the smaller guys. You know you used to see
you know, you got used to see in those guys.
And then right around I think like late into my
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like senior year of high school, I started seeing like roah,
and then seeing even smaller not smaller guys, but like,
you know, they weren't built like bricks, you know, they
weren't vinced guys. And so about I think i'd say
about like right after I got into high school. So
after I got out of high school for like seven
eight you know, it is when I started like really
starting to look into schools and training and then you know,
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going from there.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So where did you end up training when all that
was going on?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
A few schools here and there, because at the time
I was broke out of high school eighteen year olds,
so I couldn't afford for a lot of schools. So
I would just like go to random schools and be like, hey, man,
like I barely work, like I have a crap job,
and so like what's it take to train? And they'd
be like, hey, just pay what you can. Well you can't,
just let us know and that'll be it. You know,
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train a little bit here, like I said. You know,
so a lot of it was learned, like traveling with people,
you know, like that's how I you know, some of
my friends and you know, other people being like hey, man,
like I'm going to the show, Like just ride with us,
you know, we'll find something for you to do. And
then you know, just learning on the on the on
the road, you know, simple stuff, you know, taking the
stuff I did learn a training and then just being
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like throwing into matches.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Is there any quote unquote like bigger names or people
that fans would know from tea that you cross paths with,
either training or traveling anybody like that.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
There's a few some people might know. Uh, I ran
into I crossed paths a few times with Alexane, who
was over there on WW for a little while. He's
with New Japan right now. It's crazy to see like
him back you know, back then, you know, I mean
he's always been a tall like guy. And then I
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hadn't seen him for like a while and not really
not really followed him. And then next thing I know,
I see him on GCW and he's built like a
brick shit house. I'm like, that is not the alexand
and I know.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, I think he was in like the Cruiserweight Classic
or something at one point and then just totally just rechanged,
you know, his body and everything like that, which is
crazy to see.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, built by Taco Bell.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Perfect. That's not a joke, hey, people, As someone who's
like attempting to lose weight themselves, like, you'd be surprised
how much Taco Bell can fit into that diet when
when needed. So as you kind of formulate, you know,
you're in ring style and stuff. I always use this example,
like Jeff Harty's my favorite wrestler, but I don't think
I would ever attempt to wrestle like Jeff Hardy. So
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who is your favorite wrestlers? But then more importantly, who
do you take inspiration to when you're in the ring?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
So a lot of the stuff I like a lot
of Again, like I said, the smaller guys like you know,
there's a there's a name I can't mention, you know,
So there was a little bit of his style, you know,
the technical style of that. And then and then I
really try to take on a lot of Brian Danielson's style,
like the smaller quick like you know, let me go
like real quick and like hit you with stuff and
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then let me slow it down by putting you in
a submission, like let me technical wrestle you. And that's
what helps take a lot of like as being a
smaller guy. That's a lot a lot of helps me
take a lot of the bigger guys into the deeper
waters and matches. Is they're they're like, all right, like
I'm just going to powerhouse you, and I'm like, well,
you could try, but I'm quick. Can you move? Can you?
And just when you can catch up to the pace,
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I'm gonna slow it right back down.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah. I mean it's gonna help. With the technical style,
you can kind of do those things to people of
all shapes and sizes. You're not worried about like I
can do this move to this guy, but I can't
do it to this guy. So, like you said, you
bring him into the deeper waters. And a submission to
submission on anybody. So that's that's definitely a smart way
to go about it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, don't matter if you're six three and you know
in two eighty or you're five, your five to five
and one hundred and sixty pounds, you can still get
put in an ankle.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Lock, right, Yeah, And it hurts all the same, It
hurts all the same. Who And then on the flip
side of that, we all have that one wrestler or
maybe a few that like they are overwhelmingly popular. You
can't deny their popularity, but you just don't see it.
It's not someone that you enjoy watching or hearing about.
Who's a wrestler that you just you don't get it.
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And I'm not talking about you know, guys on our roster,
talking about you know, other guys on TV and side.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's hard to say because I'm such a fan of
everybody's Like there's unique, Like I don't get the like
maybe Jeff Cobb, like I it like he's a big
guy that can move, but like at this point, like
who you know, it's kind of been like done and
more specifically Bronze Stroman, Like I don't get why people
like get behind him. Like I'm not saying he's an
not talent or anything, but like it's like, Okay, you
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come in, you hit the you hit a few moves,
and you're the big powerhouse. Like it's like, I don't
get it. I know somebody who doesn't. But at the
same time, I know somebody who said that, uh l,
A Knight is a jobber. It's just a jobber who
can talk, And it baffles me that he believes that.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I mean, I'm an La night guy, especially back in
like the NWA right before he got signed again. But
I agree with you on the brounz Stroman bit where
it's it's not that he's bad at what he does,
but I feel like a lot of people could fill
that role the same way is if that makes sense,
you know. But yeah, and who else did you know?
So Jeff Cobb. I've met Jeff Cob. Jeff Cobb was
very nice to me, and I would say I'm a
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fan of Jeff Cob for sure. I I mean, I
get it, I get I understand. You know, he's a
big guy, and he does the what is that Tour
of the Islands?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, and he does all of that, and you you know,
like there's a lot of stuff he does. But if
you notice, a lot of the moves he does he
does on smaller guys. So it's like and he has
occasionally hit like a few of those moves on bigger guys,
but it's like, yeah, all his guys he hits the
Tour of the Islands or are like, doesn't anything crazy.
They're all smaller guys. So it's like I don't like
get it, Like, yeah, he's thrown around, you know, he's
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thrown around raying mysterio. It looks great, but when you
start throwing around like you know, bron Strowman, it doesn't
look as good.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, I mean, like far bi it for me to
talk about anybody's hype. But like, as big as he is,
when you put him with another bigger guy, he tends
to be shorter than them. Like even when he was
in AW I think they put him up against big Bill,
you know, formerly big casts, and he just towered over him.
So it's like, yeah, it doesn't look quite as well
when you're supposed to be the big guy and you're
you know, and then when it comes to like, you know,
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championship belts. Can't talk about wrestling without different belts and whatever.
I have a decent little collection over here on the
other wall. What are some belts that just off the
design themselves? Some of your favorite belts.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I was always a fan of the White Intercontinental title
they had for a long time with WW, like the
old school one and the one they carried in. I'm
really mad they redid it, Like I'm like, that is iconic,
Like this one just is garbage. Wing Winged Eagle is
also up there with me and then the WCW one
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that they transferred over to being like the like the
heavyweight title, the big Goldie Big gold one is Yeah,
big Goldie is is like iconic, like triple h you
know Flair. You can just make a list.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, uh, the big gold Winged Eagle. That's always a
popular choice on these things. The white Icy I agree
that the one now is terrible. I agree with you
on that as well. I have one of the what
they call the oval icee you know, the one from
like the Attitude era that was like, yeah, that's yeah,
that's my first favorite belt, I would say. But yeah,
the belt they have now, it helps that they finally
added some color into the plates. Yeah, but I don't
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know why they thought that was. Yeah, a good move.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
That white like even the old school oval like white
I or you know that title like just is like.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And then any any belts other than the modern I
see any other belts that you're just not not feeling?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Uh not? The aw's Heavyweight Championship looks like trash.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Really I think that's a hot take.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Is that a hot take? I don't know, I'm not
sure of Like that's it's just I mean when it
first came out, it was good, but then at the
same time, I was just like after a while, it's
just kind of like all right, like it just needed
a revamped, Like you should have revamped this and done
some stuff, and like it just it just seems bulky
to me, Like.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It's definitely bulky. Apparently it was designed to be like
the Mid South Heavyweight title when Cody had a hand
in designing it. It's definitely big, Like there are certain
people that will not look good on because of how
big it.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Is, right, you know, it's It's why I think I
liked some of the Like I actually also the the
red and blue like when they had the RAND split
like WW titles like the the Universal and the w
W title the blue of the Red Bob, those are
just so.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You what you actually like the different colored ones? Yah?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, yeah, those ones are great. It really helped like
split a brand apart, you know what I mean, Like
you knew that when you watched Macdown there was gonna
be a blue title, and when you watched all there
was a red title, Like why wouldn't you do it?
Like it was like why would you get rid of that?
I mean, I get they did the like they combine
them all.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
M I mean, if you're gonna make the belts look
the same, then yeah, it makes perfect sense to uh,
you know, to to color code like that, like for
the heavyweight and the tag belts or what have you.
So I know, I think people got tired of that
after a while too, So even though like the newer
versions people not might not love, but I think the
color coding got got old for some people over time.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So wrestling fans are frinicky.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Nobody hates wrestling more than wrestling fans I've learned over
the years.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, no, no, nobody hates wrestling more than the IWC.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Right, and those are what's considered the diehard fam I mean,
I have to consider I'm literally on the Internet right
now talking to you about wrestling, so I guess I qualify,
but you know, I try to.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You know which ones I'm talking about, the ones that
bully people on the that bully wheezy off of the internet, scumbags.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, I definitely don't like being people like that. I'd
much rather talk about the stuff I like in wrestling
than not. But I mean there are certain things like
I was never a brock Lesnar guy, for example, like
that's just someone I would have could have done without
for different reasons, a different way. But yeah, no, it
is so even back when, like in the you know,
so like he beat up Polk Hogan in his early days,
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and my dad was a whole co maniac. So I'm like,
that guy beat up my favorite wrestler. I don't like
that guy good and then and then late which accordingly
that take didn't didn't go too well because you beat
up polk Cogan, now you probably get like carried around
the building.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
But right, yeah, he beat up Phoking now there having
a parad for you.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And then he just spent a lot of his career like,
you know, I don't really want to be here. I'd
rather be on my farm in you know, Canada or
or whatever. I'm like, dude, no one's making you be here, man,
You've made enough money. You don't need to, you know.
So that that was always my thing. He would just
hijack the title for for months and years. At times,
he was just like a placeholder. The title might as
well have been vac the time with him.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, And I mean, but he's the kind of guy
you can put in that role where it's like all right,
he's going to show up every once in a while.
He's going to carry the championship. He's not going to
be there every night. I mean Roman went on that run.
Like Roman's on that run right now. He's just not champion,
you know. But you know it's I mean, I get it.
Like there's people like I like old school brock Lesser
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when he came out, you know, you know, pre almost
killing himself and then when he came like he said
he came back. He like the Legends style contract of
it did get old after a while and be like, oh,
here's brock less He's about to go on a run.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, I think I would. It would bother me less
if it wasn't with the title, if it didn't hijack
the title, if he was just like a special attraction,
like you think, like Andre, Andre was never champion, he
just showed up. He in Battle Royals, he'd do like
he basically did the same role without hijacking the title.
So I think, and same with Roman. After a while,
it's like the belts never hear the point of wrestling
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is to have a belt for the most part. And yeah,
so I think I think just hijack and the belt
is something I don't I don't love with wrestling. Yeah,
so in this modern talk a little modern wrestling here,
now are do you watch more w W A W
New Japan? What's your go to if you're gonna watch
modern stuff?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
People get mad when I say this. I've always will
be like a like I have a love I have
a love hate relationship with the WWE. You know, like
I'm in a very like toxic relationship. But who isn't
you know what I mean? Like it was like the
Vince Dark era, you know that's that was when it
was just like, all right, here's Roman, He's gonna win.
You know, you knew what was gonna happen. You know,
he was safe booking. And then you know, I started
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watching AW when it debuted. I watched this debut episode.
I've been to hundred of a W shows. I've been
to things. Last match, I went to the pay per
view that was or you know, I flew all the
way from the West Coast to go to the one
in Orlando. You know, I've seen them and it's starting
to get now, like it gets hard to watch that
product now. So like right now I kind of just
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highlight real YouTube it with with with aw, but I'm
always gonna be a W I do watch like T
and A now too, because they're coming up a lot
better watching some watching some MLW. Mace Warner, you know,
great guy, and you know, just trying to watch as
much as I can, you know, be through to another game.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I think a lot of people now, like one, there's
almost dare I say, too much wrestling to watch, which
when we were kids growing up, like you never thought
that would have been, you know, even even a possibility.
So I think a lot of people don't watch full
shows anymore. They just watch highlights and they'll seek out
a particular match or so, and like you can you
can watch wrestling like that. I think, like the only
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thing I watched, like I watched Dynamite every Wednesday, the
whole show. But then I'll just kind of look for
other things that piqued my interest, Like we're recording this
on a Monday night RAWZ overseas. So it hit Netflix
at like three. I just tuned into like the John
Cena Cody back and forth, and then I turned it
off because I didn't necessarily need to see like bron
Stroman or whoever else. So it just I do like
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how you can pick and choose, you know, little pieces
of each show if you want to, you can you
can just piece it together that way.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, I mean, I do like that they switched over
that Netflix because one, you don't have to have cable.
That was my big thing about not watching rad and
have cable, and you could watch mac down on if
you didn't have cable. And I enjoyed being over there,
you know, I enjoyed on Netflix because, like you said,
you can like just even when it's lot, like I
don't have to watch it live. I can watch it
the next day and just dream, like, you know, go
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through the stuff I don't want to watch, Like if
I don't want to see bron stroman wrestle, or I
don't want to see the random segment that they decided
to put in there, you know, I can just fast
forward through it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah. I think it's great that you know, you could
watch an episode of Row could be twenty minutes for
you if that's the only amount of it you wanted
to see, and you know that they do get kind
of reamed for. It'll be a three hour show and
there's only twenty two minutes of wrestling, so you could
really just skip around to all that other stuff. So yeah,
the Netflix thing is definitely a positive because you can
see the difference with like SmackDown, how it's kind of
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been left you know, they don't view it the same
way because it's not on Netflix, so you have to
base it off of the old way we looked at
things like that. But do you have like a you know,
even from from shows in the back, do you have
what what I would call the comfort show or match
that you will you know, refer back to all the
time that you like to watch, you know, from from
the past.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Joe versus Kabashi and ro Oh, I've seen that match.
Probably I could watch that match and call the I
can call the spots like, oh, this is what's gonna happen.
I've watched it so much. Joe and Kabaki versus Homicide
and Loki, like it's a tag match and it's it's
absolutely crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
We were talking in ah In before this, how like
I was always a huge fan of Loki, even he
turned out to not be like the nicest person later
in his career. But I mean happens with a lot
of people. Homicide too, Homicide just retired apparently had his
last match this past and.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I can't say enough about like he deserves it, Like
you know, he's part of like iconic matches and it's like, bro,
Like I didn't even realize he was still actively wrestling.
I was like, holy, Like he's still actively wrestling.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah. Like when the n w A brought back their
junior heavyweight title, they gave it to him to like
kick off the division and it was a really cool
way that you got to teach and wrestle all these
younger guys, and it was like that was a year
or two ago, but that was his last like mainstream
send off. But he's also one of those like damn,
I must be getting old because I remember when this
guy was like starting out, you know, and now he's
he's the veteran.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I remember watching him, Yeah, I remember watching him in
P and A with Hernandez.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yes, you know l for sure. Yeah, the original L
A X Yes, yes, not the other one was okay,
but it's you can't beat the original with them.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, and you brought in ConA, really brought in Conan
and it was like all right, yeah, dude, you're just
you know, one of the most iconic moments when uh
Conan pulled that gun when he had a gun in
a ring, I'm like, why is there a gun in
this ring? Like who didn't? And I also thought like
who is it? Like why hasn't somebody thought about this,
like in a wrestling and an ODQ match, like just.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Pull a gun, like we're like, you know, yeah, I
mean the closest thing. I think Kurt Angle pulled a
tranquilizer gun on Big Show one time and they shaved it,
like the closest thing to that.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
All Right, it'll be on a w TV next week,
so I'm gonna pull up John Boxery. He'll bring out
a live gun.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That's the only thing that guy hasn't done at this point.
So you might you might be right. You might have
called that a week or two before it happens, But.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I want to be on record that I said that
if it happens.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, this will be up before the next show, so
you'll be you'll be locked in in case it ever happens.
But for me, I always got to go to the
triple threat between AJ Styles, Samo Joe Christopher Daniels. I
am biased because I was at that show, so that
is your little extra little you know, linked to it
type thing. But yeah, that that's match. And then Eddie
Guerrero Ray Mysterio I WrestleMania twenty two and that was
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just like an opening thing. And I love that match.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Rat Mysterio versus Eddie Carrero WCW when they're both like
in the Cruiserweight Like Cruiserweight is I'm like back when
I was wearing the purple suit. Yeah. Oh, it's just iconic,
like like watching him and Eddie just do a lut
like full on luter match and be like seamless with it,
and it's like geesus.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I mean, I would challenge anyone to find a match
that had Ray and Eddie in it that wasn't just
an absolute classic, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Another one I like to watch I'll add to this
is Chris Jericho versus Pegas's Kid, which was Chris bin
Wall's like japan gimmick name. Like it's just a it's
just a the Lionheart versus Pegasus Kid. I tell everybody
go watch it. It's great.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, it's part of like the j Cup or whatever
the tournament is over there, right, is that that one?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I'm not sure if it's part of the j Cup.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
But you know, I mean the Pegasus Kid was kind
of short lived, so they'd probably easy enough to find
it because he only had so many matches under that name.
So while we move forward here a little bit. You've
wrestled in a lot of places, a lot of you know,
coast to coast, you travel for wrestling all the time.
(22:22):
You've been in PWR since the inception, which we're coming
up on like a seven eight month mark. How do
you view PWR compared to places you've worked in the past,
and what is it like to be in a company
from the ground floor.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
As from you know, I've wrestled from everywhere from the
local Bengal hall to like outlaw mudshos, you know what
I mean. Like I've wrestled at fairgrounds. I've wrestled you know,
you know other places. I actually, as much as I
like dump on the city of the land in the
state of Ohio, I actually like being part of this
(22:54):
one leads a little more because I was like, you know,
I've been there from the inception. They were like, hey,
we want you to come be a part of this.
You know, management was like, hey, like you're being talked
about being part of this from the ground up, and
I'm like all right, like I'll do it, but it's
gonna cost you. It is kind of nice to be like,
you know, I do have some the land. You know,
I don't say roots, but you know I did spend
(23:15):
some time here back in like high school for a
little bit, and you know, like so it's like all right,
Like you get to wrestle for the people that you
said somewhat claim you, and you're like, I don't claim
any of you. So it's actually been one of my
favorite places to wrestle, you know. I mean there's been
some hiccups. You know, I got you know, I had
to go one on one with Ramos and that didn't
end well for me. So you know, it's not been great.
(23:36):
But you know, but you know, if people were at
the last show, they saw what happened.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yeah, I mean our last show, you went one on
one with you know, the heavyweight champ and former guest
of this show, Shane Evans. And while you didn't come
away with the wind respectfully like you, you showed everybody
what you're capable of.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You know, yeah, I think that was you know the
point is, you know, well, I mean the main point
was to take that title away from him, you know,
and to and somewhat proved to people that he's not
the Shane Evans everybody thinks he is. Like I say,
if they were if you were there, you know you
you heard I. You know, that's not the guy that
I know, Like, that's the guy came in the industry with,
(24:12):
like you know, like what's going on here, Like you
can fool those people. You can fool your fans, you
can fool your wife, but you can't fool me, you.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Know, because you know, you go back to you go
back a long time, right, we go.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Back a long time. And that's not the first time
Shane and I have danced, you know, so, but it
was the first time we danced for with a championship
on the line, you know. And you know, I prove that,
you know, I can go into those deep waters. And
you know he's you know, wasn't. I don't think he
was ready for me. Like I think when I came
out and answered his open challenge and he went into
(24:46):
that back locker, into this little private locker room, he thought, oh,
this is going to be an easy day at the office.
And I showed him it wasn't an easy day at
the office.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, and anyone that hasn't checked it out just yet.
The full match is on the PWR YouTube channel, so
he's not just bow smoke. You can see it for yourself.
They had a really banger of a match a couple.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Of weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Now, you guys, hear this.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So I didn't get beat by a roll up.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
That's true, you did not, And that's you know, that's
a factual statement, my friend.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
That is my factual statement. I took a trip to
larry County, to Larrytt Country, but who I've taken a
few trips there before too, So.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
So let me ask you, let me let's stick into
that for a minute, because that is the one thing
I kicked myself. I hope to have Shane on again.
I did not get a chance to ask him. Lariyot Country?
Is that you know? Where? Can I locate it on
a map? Is it an ever expanding thing? Is it
more of an idea? Can you elaborate on that at all?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Larry, I don't think there's an actual Laryot country or
county or anywhere. You know. It's like Ramos, he's the
mayor of chop city and I've been there once. But
there's no physical location. It's wherever you know it goes.
It's a state up. My best way is to put
it in a state of mind. You know. That's when
he hits listening. As much as I hate that that guy,
(25:58):
Shane Evans, when he hits you with that lariot, it
is every bit of the stiffest furmus lariot you've ever
been hit with. Like it's it knocked me when I
was laying I wasn't just laying on the ground on
that map after that pen because I wanted to. It
was because I had I don't know where I was
at for half a minute.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Right, And whether it's a physical place on a map
or a state of mind, I think Larry Country is
a place to avoid. I think we can agree on
that movie Cool.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, a Lariott Country and Chop City or places I
have put on I'm like, I'm not going.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Back there, right and and for your for your safety, man,
I do hope that happens. I hope you're able to
avoid them at all costs. Yeah. So obviously being being
a champion is an obvious goal for pw R. But
like in your time, in pd RP. What other things
are you hoping to accomplish as the company grows and
you grow.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I'm hoping that, like you know, like you said, be
the heavyweight champion or any champion. You know, I don't
matter if I'm Attack Team champion, doesn't matter if I
you know, there's other belt you know, there's other belts
you know coming in or what goes on, never know.
There are definitely a list of superstars I have written
out that I would love to beat Cleayton in the
middle of the ring, you know, you know, as angry
(27:09):
as he is at Alejandro Bravo guy. I think him
and I would have an absolute barn burner.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
You know, I weirdly think you guys would get along.
I don't know if you spent any time with him
backstage or anything, but that is the guy that I
don't know, you maybe get along more than more than
people think.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
No, he's angry everywhere. Like I told some rude guys
I one day we were showing I see him at
the venue and I was like, hey, Bravo, why are
you so angry? He looked me dead in the eyes
and says, what the fuck does it matter to you?
And I said, valid point. Valid point. Like like people
think like, oh, yeah, he just you know, he just
know he shows up angry. He doesn't drive angry because
(27:44):
he's like, hey, like I can It's the only time
he's not angry because he's like, I don't want to
go to jail. So he drives. He's a law abiding
citizen when it's driving, and maybe he's angry during the drive,
but like he just drive angry.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, it's all.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Like slamming doors. I'm his poor car, Like that door,
I don't know how it stays on, Like he slams
the door. He slams the trut when he's getting his
luggage out, you know, like he that's why he carries
a bag, because he got he said one time he
got so mad about his rolling luggage he's throw into
a lake.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I mean, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Gonna I'm not gonna question. And he could say, hey,
I the reason I carry a bag is because I
want to. And I'm like all right, cool, Like he
why would you throw your stuff in that? Like why
would you throw your luggage in the lake.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
So to follow that train of thought, you know, you
asked him at some point, like what makes you so angry,
So I think a fair rebuttal is what makes you
so entitled? How did that nickname catch on for you?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
You know, just being the millennials that you know, I
kept being tired of hearing boomers and other general generations
X being like, oh, you guys are so entitled. You're
so entitled. I'm like, yeah, but like you feel like
you should be entitled to be able to yell at
poor waitresses then when they don't send out your pie
the right way. So I just kind of was like,
you know what, if you think I'm entitled, I am like,
that's just how it is.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I mean, I can't poke a hole in that at all.
I think I feel the same way when people are
mean to waitresses or whatever else. So like, I agree
with you one hundred percent on that. So as we
move forward from you know, we talked about your match
with Shane or moving forward to next month's show. Part
of this agreement to being an official partner with p
w R is I get access to some information kind
(29:25):
of before it hits the public. So as a as
a gift to you actually for being nice enough to
come on the show. You know it is because you're
gonna before this is even posted. You're gonna know who
your next opponent is before he does. So I'm gonna
give you kind of this.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It better not be Kyle. If it's Kyle Steele, I'm
gonna I'm hanging. I am ending this dream like the
exact moment. All right, good news, good.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
News, it is not Kyle Steele.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Oh my god, I just can't deal with that bench.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
But later, so I got this email maybe an hour
before we hit record from PWR management. But I wanted
to let you know and the fans know that at
Globe Warming April twelfth, you will be going one on
one with none other than Tiberius. So I'd love to
know your boo boo.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
First of all, boo each sleet boo Tiberius, Jesus that
that man is just at the crying and whining about
how everything is a conspiracy and everybody's out to get him.
And at the end of the day, if you're gonna
keep crying but take no action, then there's nobody to
blame but yourself. You Tiberius. You call yourself a titan,
but you don't even like every titan can be defeated, like,
(30:30):
but you're knowing nothing to change this conspiracy against you.
I mean, what are you what is it gonna take?
Like you want to go against me in the ring,
that's fine, like do I need to sweeten the pot?
But what are you gonna do when I beat you
like Shane beats you with a simple roll up? There's
not much you can do about that. You know, you
(30:52):
can go and run your mouth on the internet and
claim conspiracies and this, that and the other. It's just
you can't handle what the deep down inside of you
that you can't beat me and beat other people, that
you lose, that you're not the man who think you are.
I guess on April twelfth, we're gonna find out which
one of us is the better man in the ring,
and it's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Me, beautifully said. Uh yeah, everyone will know now April twelfth,
that match and many others will be at Obi's Barn WOUNDE.
If you're in the DeLand area, you're gonna want to
check it out Forrest. Thanks again, man, I appreciate your time.
I hope that piece of information made this whole visit
worth it for you.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
It did, it did made it worthwhile. Let me, I
gotta do the corporates Fiel because it's in my contract
for when I YOURSS April twelfth, Obi's Barn Lounge. As
you stated, we need to. You know, we've got we've
got global Warming. We've already like we just announced two
matches now apparently we've got the tag team ladder match
(31:47):
that we're gonna have with the House of Spades, big deal,
the cow yos and unnatural causes and you know who
comes out of that victory, Like, that's a match that
people should if you're that's gonna be the worth the
price of a mission. You know, there's gonna be ladders,
there might be a table, there might be a few chairs.
You know, there's gonna be high flying and the people
(32:09):
somebody's gonna go through a table. I'm not promising anything.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
But yeah, a lot more information will come out in
these next few weeks. Hopefully you're in the area, hopefully
you can go. But if you're not, stay tuned to
the PWR YouTube channel. You'll be able to see the
results and all the action as it comes around. And uh,
if you're a wrestling fan, if you're in the area,
even if you're not, make sure you give a subscribe
because I'm gonna have more interviews like with Forrest and
other guys on the roster.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
So, uh, don't get that Kyle. Don't get that Kyle
Steel guy on here.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I mean, I think he's contractually obligated at some point.
So I don't know, Man, I can't. I would hate
to lie to you, So I think it might happen
at some point. That's all I can say.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I'm I gonna talk to I'm gonna go talk to
management about that. I'll find d D. I don't know
who she is. I have to go. I might have
to take a special trip to the to the Florida
to go talk to DV and D. I mean, make
sure that doesn't happen, all.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Right, dude, you gotta do man. But again, thank you
for all the time and good luck on the Twelfth
Man A.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Thank you, and uh hey, follow us on if you're
seeing this, follow us on our social media PWR you know, Facebook, Instagram,
and your YouTube page. Give us a like, follow and share.
And if you're live in the DeLand area, come see us,
you know, bring your kids. Pay to see me so
I can pay my bills.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
It's a family, family show for the most part. So yeah,
bring the kids, bring bring the dog. We've had some
dogs out there too.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, like ugly ass dog, not ugly. There's a strict
no ugly dog rules. It's my own but I but
you know, avocado toast is expensive, so please come support us.
I can buy my alvocado toast.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah. P w R Wrestling in the DeLand Area surrounding
DeLand area. Follow the socials fall Forest to go hang
out with him. He's he's always got funnytuff.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
That follow me in real life though, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
One.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, follow the other barking lives. It's not gonna l
a right.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
That's gonna do us for today, guys. So thanks for listening,
Give us a subscribe and we'll see you next time.
Take
How's it going, guys, Thanks for clicking on to today's
episode of the Phil Talk Sports Podcast. Really excited to
bring this one to you. Before I get to today's guest,
a little bit of a channel update, if you will. Now.
I was able to break this news earlier in the
week on the Facebook page, So if you haven't already,
please like and follow the Film Talk Sports Podcast Network
Facebook page and you'll get updates like this a little
bit sooner. But this is the first time I get
(00:32):
to talk about it on an episode. So earlier this week,
I confirmed to be an official partner of PWR Pro
Wrestling Rebellion. I had their heavyweight champion Shane Evans on
as a guest about a month ago now, and I've
been working with them a little bit closer.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
What that means for me and you guys as the
viewer is I will get exclusive access to interview the wrestlers.
But the first one of those is going to be today.
For today's episode, we are bringing on professional wrestler of
over twenty years. He goes by the entitled Millennial Forest Nystrom.
Now I've gotten to get to know this guy over
the past couple of weeks, as my relationship with PWR
(01:08):
has improved, and I got to say, he's an interesting dude.
I think you guys are really gonna like this conversation
that we're gonna have here. We talk about, you know,
his journey through wrestling, his likes, his dislikes, his time
in PWR, where he's been, and where he's hoping to
go with his wrestling career. So everyone should lock in.
And I don't normally do this. I don't like to
be the police subscribe guy. I know that it's annoying
(01:29):
in all the videos you watch, but if you are
a PWR fan or a pro wrestling fan in general,
I would recommend subscribing now so you don't miss these
interviews that you're not gonna get anywhere else. So that's
the one and only time I'm going to say stuff
like that. With all that being said, here's the interview
with the entitled Millennial Forest Nystrom all right, joining me
now on the show. A member of the PWR roster,
(01:50):
A pro wrestler of over twenty years. He goes by
the entitled millennial Forest Nystrom. Forest, thanks for doing this, man,
I appreciate your time today.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Thanks for having me on I'm really glad that I'm
the second guest and I bond before that that bench
player Kyle Steele. So and you know, I'm sorry I
have to you know, you caught me at a bad time.
You know, it's still a little early here on the
West Coast right now.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, I really appreciate what the time difference that this
this took a couple of weeks to put together. But
you know, we made the announcement about the partnership and
you were the first one to volunteer. So I really appreciate,
uh you doing all this and all the flights you
make back and forth to make p w R. Man,
You're you're a trooper. People they give you a bad
rap sometimes, man, but you really you do a lot
for the company.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's That's the thing. Like everybody wants to paint me,
it's this bad guy and as this you know, terrible person.
But yet they don't understand that I'm taking flights from
the West Coast. Those are five hour flights, you know,
to come and wrestle in that dump and put a
show on for these people. You know, it's not an
easy task, you know, And I that comes out of
my pocket. BWR an't paying for those things like like,
(02:53):
how could I be the bad guy here when I'm
coming in to wrestle for a company.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Well, you know, I don't know if every company wrestle
for views you as bad guy or a good guy
or what may have. But you know, you've done this
for a long time, twenty years now, over twenty years,
if I'm not mistaken. So a lot of people take Okay, yeah,
a lot of people are wrestling fans. They live it,
they breathe it, they watch everything. Let's go back to
the beginning. At what point did you make the transition
from like I'm a fan of wrestling to I want
(03:17):
to give this a try. How did that all start
for you?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So I was, like I mentioned on the Proud Opinions
podcast when I was on their you know, growing up,
I was like, you know, I've always been a wrestling fan.
You know, I would watch WWE, but then I started
going I was more of a WCW guy because if
the cruiserwaights same, you know they you know, yeah, they
had the smaller guys. You know you used to see
you know, you got used to see in those guys.
And then right around I think like late into my
(03:44):
like senior year of high school, I started seeing like roah,
and then seeing even smaller not smaller guys, but like,
you know, they weren't built like bricks, you know, they
weren't vinced guys. And so about I think i'd say
about like right after I got into high school. So
after I got out of high school for like seven
eight you know, it is when I started like really
starting to look into schools and training and then you know,
(04:06):
going from there.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So where did you end up training when all that
was going on?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
A few schools here and there, because at the time
I was broke out of high school eighteen year olds,
so I couldn't afford for a lot of schools. So
I would just like go to random schools and be like, hey, man,
like I barely work, like I have a crap job,
and so like what's it take to train? And they'd
be like, hey, just pay what you can. Well you can't,
just let us know and that'll be it. You know,
(04:32):
train a little bit here, like I said. You know,
so a lot of it was learned, like traveling with people,
you know, like that's how I you know, some of
my friends and you know, other people being like hey, man,
like I'm going to the show, Like just ride with us,
you know, we'll find something for you to do. And
then you know, just learning on the on the on
the road, you know, simple stuff, you know, taking the
stuff I did learn a training and then just being
(04:53):
like throwing into matches.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Is there any quote unquote like bigger names or people
that fans would know from tea that you cross paths with,
either training or traveling anybody like that.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
There's a few some people might know. Uh, I ran
into I crossed paths a few times with Alexane, who
was over there on WW for a little while. He's
with New Japan right now. It's crazy to see like
him back you know, back then, you know, I mean
he's always been a tall like guy. And then I
(05:25):
hadn't seen him for like a while and not really
not really followed him. And then next thing I know,
I see him on GCW and he's built like a
brick shit house. I'm like, that is not the alexand
and I know.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, I think he was in like the Cruiserweight Classic
or something at one point and then just totally just rechanged,
you know, his body and everything like that, which is
crazy to see.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, built by Taco Bell.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Perfect. That's not a joke, hey, people, As someone who's
like attempting to lose weight themselves, like, you'd be surprised
how much Taco Bell can fit into that diet when
when needed. So as you kind of formulate, you know,
you're in ring style and stuff. I always use this example,
like Jeff Harty's my favorite wrestler, but I don't think
I would ever attempt to wrestle like Jeff Hardy. So
(06:07):
who is your favorite wrestlers? But then more importantly, who
do you take inspiration to when you're in the ring?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
So a lot of the stuff I like a lot
of Again, like I said, the smaller guys like you know,
there's a there's a name I can't mention, you know,
So there was a little bit of his style, you know,
the technical style of that. And then and then I
really try to take on a lot of Brian Danielson's style,
like the smaller quick like you know, let me go
like real quick and like hit you with stuff and
(06:35):
then let me slow it down by putting you in
a submission, like let me technical wrestle you. And that's
what helps take a lot of like as being a
smaller guy. That's a lot a lot of helps me
take a lot of the bigger guys into the deeper
waters and matches. Is they're they're like, all right, like
I'm just going to powerhouse you, and I'm like, well,
you could try, but I'm quick. Can you move? Can you?
And just when you can catch up to the pace,
(06:56):
I'm gonna slow it right back down.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah. I mean it's gonna help. With the technical style,
you can kind of do those things to people of
all shapes and sizes. You're not worried about like I
can do this move to this guy, but I can't
do it to this guy. So, like you said, you
bring him into the deeper waters. And a submission to
submission on anybody. So that's that's definitely a smart way
to go about it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, don't matter if you're six three and you know
in two eighty or you're five, your five to five
and one hundred and sixty pounds, you can still get
put in an ankle.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Lock, right, Yeah, And it hurts all the same, It
hurts all the same. Who And then on the flip
side of that, we all have that one wrestler or
maybe a few that like they are overwhelmingly popular. You
can't deny their popularity, but you just don't see it.
It's not someone that you enjoy watching or hearing about.
Who's a wrestler that you just you don't get it.
(07:46):
And I'm not talking about you know, guys on our roster,
talking about you know, other guys on TV and side.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's hard to say because I'm such a fan of
everybody's Like there's unique, Like I don't get the like
maybe Jeff Cobb, like I it like he's a big
guy that can move, but like at this point, like
who you know, it's kind of been like done and
more specifically Bronze Stroman, Like I don't get why people
like get behind him. Like I'm not saying he's an
not talent or anything, but like it's like, Okay, you
(08:15):
come in, you hit the you hit a few moves,
and you're the big powerhouse. Like it's like, I don't
get it. I know somebody who doesn't. But at the
same time, I know somebody who said that, uh l,
A Knight is a jobber. It's just a jobber who
can talk, And it baffles me that he believes that.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I mean, I'm an La night guy, especially back in
like the NWA right before he got signed again. But
I agree with you on the brounz Stroman bit where
it's it's not that he's bad at what he does,
but I feel like a lot of people could fill
that role the same way is if that makes sense,
you know. But yeah, and who else did you know?
So Jeff Cobb. I've met Jeff Cob. Jeff Cobb was
very nice to me, and I would say I'm a
(08:53):
fan of Jeff Cob for sure. I I mean, I
get it, I get I understand. You know, he's a
big guy, and he does the what is that Tour
of the Islands?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, and he does all of that, and you you know,
like there's a lot of stuff he does. But if
you notice, a lot of the moves he does he
does on smaller guys. So it's like and he has
occasionally hit like a few of those moves on bigger guys,
but it's like, yeah, all his guys he hits the
Tour of the Islands or are like, doesn't anything crazy.
They're all smaller guys. So it's like I don't like
get it, Like, yeah, he's thrown around, you know, he's
(09:23):
thrown around raying mysterio. It looks great, but when you
start throwing around like you know, bron Strowman, it doesn't
look as good.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, I mean, like far bi it for me to
talk about anybody's hype. But like, as big as he is,
when you put him with another bigger guy, he tends
to be shorter than them. Like even when he was
in AW I think they put him up against big Bill,
you know, formerly big casts, and he just towered over him.
So it's like, yeah, it doesn't look quite as well
when you're supposed to be the big guy and you're
you know, and then when it comes to like, you know,
(09:51):
championship belts. Can't talk about wrestling without different belts and whatever.
I have a decent little collection over here on the
other wall. What are some belts that just off the
design themselves? Some of your favorite belts.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I was always a fan of the White Intercontinental title
they had for a long time with WW, like the
old school one and the one they carried in. I'm
really mad they redid it, Like I'm like, that is iconic,
Like this one just is garbage. Wing Winged Eagle is
also up there with me and then the WCW one
(10:22):
that they transferred over to being like the like the
heavyweight title, the big Goldie Big gold one is Yeah,
big Goldie is is like iconic, like triple h you
know Flair. You can just make a list.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, uh, the big gold Winged Eagle. That's always a
popular choice on these things. The white Icy I agree
that the one now is terrible. I agree with you
on that as well. I have one of the what
they call the oval icee you know, the one from
like the Attitude era that was like, yeah, that's yeah,
that's my first favorite belt, I would say. But yeah,
the belt they have now, it helps that they finally
added some color into the plates. Yeah, but I don't
(10:57):
know why they thought that was. Yeah, a good move.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
That white like even the old school oval like white
I or you know that title like just is like.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And then any any belts other than the modern I
see any other belts that you're just not not feeling?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Uh not? The aw's Heavyweight Championship looks like trash.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Really I think that's a hot take.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Is that a hot take? I don't know, I'm not
sure of Like that's it's just I mean when it
first came out, it was good, but then at the
same time, I was just like after a while, it's
just kind of like all right, like it just needed
a revamped, Like you should have revamped this and done
some stuff, and like it just it just seems bulky
to me, Like.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It's definitely bulky. Apparently it was designed to be like
the Mid South Heavyweight title when Cody had a hand
in designing it. It's definitely big, Like there are certain
people that will not look good on because of how
big it.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Is, right, you know, it's It's why I think I
liked some of the Like I actually also the the
red and blue like when they had the RAND split
like WW titles like the the Universal and the w
W title the blue of the Red Bob, those are
just so.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You what you actually like the different colored ones? Yah?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, yeah, those ones are great. It really helped like
split a brand apart, you know what I mean, Like
you knew that when you watched Macdown there was gonna
be a blue title, and when you watched all there
was a red title, Like why wouldn't you do it?
Like it was like why would you get rid of that?
I mean, I get they did the like they combine
them all.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
M I mean, if you're gonna make the belts look
the same, then yeah, it makes perfect sense to uh,
you know, to to color code like that, like for
the heavyweight and the tag belts or what have you.
So I know, I think people got tired of that
after a while too, So even though like the newer
versions people not might not love, but I think the
color coding got got old for some people over time.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So wrestling fans are frinicky.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Nobody hates wrestling more than wrestling fans I've learned over
the years.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, no, no, nobody hates wrestling more than the IWC.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Right, and those are what's considered the diehard fam I mean,
I have to consider I'm literally on the Internet right
now talking to you about wrestling, so I guess I qualify,
but you know, I try to.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You know which ones I'm talking about, the ones that
bully people on the that bully wheezy off of the internet, scumbags.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, I definitely don't like being people like that. I'd
much rather talk about the stuff I like in wrestling
than not. But I mean there are certain things like
I was never a brock Lesnar guy, for example, like
that's just someone I would have could have done without
for different reasons, a different way. But yeah, no, it
is so even back when, like in the you know,
so like he beat up Polk Hogan in his early days,
(13:37):
and my dad was a whole co maniac. So I'm like,
that guy beat up my favorite wrestler. I don't like
that guy good and then and then late which accordingly
that take didn't didn't go too well because you beat
up polk Cogan, now you probably get like carried around
the building.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
But right, yeah, he beat up Phoking now there having
a parad for you.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And then he just spent a lot of his career like,
you know, I don't really want to be here. I'd
rather be on my farm in you know, Canada or
or whatever. I'm like, dude, no one's making you be here, man,
You've made enough money. You don't need to, you know.
So that that was always my thing. He would just
hijack the title for for months and years. At times,
he was just like a placeholder. The title might as
well have been vac the time with him.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, And I mean, but he's the kind of guy
you can put in that role where it's like all right,
he's going to show up every once in a while.
He's going to carry the championship. He's not going to
be there every night. I mean Roman went on that run.
Like Roman's on that run right now. He's just not champion,
you know. But you know it's I mean, I get it.
Like there's people like I like old school brock Lesser
(14:34):
when he came out, you know, you know, pre almost
killing himself and then when he came like he said
he came back. He like the Legends style contract of
it did get old after a while and be like, oh,
here's brock less He's about to go on a run.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, I think I would. It would bother me less
if it wasn't with the title, if it didn't hijack
the title, if he was just like a special attraction,
like you think, like Andre, Andre was never champion, he
just showed up. He in Battle Royals, he'd do like
he basically did the same role without hijacking the title.
So I think, and same with Roman. After a while,
it's like the belts never hear the point of wrestling
(15:08):
is to have a belt for the most part. And yeah,
so I think I think just hijack and the belt
is something I don't I don't love with wrestling. Yeah,
so in this modern talk a little modern wrestling here,
now are do you watch more w W A W
New Japan? What's your go to if you're gonna watch
modern stuff?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
People get mad when I say this. I've always will
be like a like I have a love I have
a love hate relationship with the WWE. You know, like
I'm in a very like toxic relationship. But who isn't
you know what I mean? Like it was like the
Vince Dark era, you know that's that was when it
was just like, all right, here's Roman, He's gonna win.
You know, you knew what was gonna happen. You know,
he was safe booking. And then you know, I started
(15:49):
watching AW when it debuted. I watched this debut episode.
I've been to hundred of a W shows. I've been
to things. Last match, I went to the pay per
view that was or you know, I flew all the
way from the West Coast to go to the one
in Orlando. You know, I've seen them and it's starting
to get now, like it gets hard to watch that
product now. So like right now I kind of just
(16:11):
highlight real YouTube it with with with aw, but I'm
always gonna be a W I do watch like T
and A now too, because they're coming up a lot
better watching some watching some MLW. Mace Warner, you know,
great guy, and you know, just trying to watch as
much as I can, you know, be through to another game.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I think a lot of people now, like one, there's
almost dare I say, too much wrestling to watch, which
when we were kids growing up, like you never thought
that would have been, you know, even even a possibility.
So I think a lot of people don't watch full
shows anymore. They just watch highlights and they'll seek out
a particular match or so, and like you can you
can watch wrestling like that. I think, like the only
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thing I watched, like I watched Dynamite every Wednesday, the
whole show. But then I'll just kind of look for
other things that piqued my interest, Like we're recording this
on a Monday night RAWZ overseas. So it hit Netflix
at like three. I just tuned into like the John
Cena Cody back and forth, and then I turned it
off because I didn't necessarily need to see like bron
Stroman or whoever else. So it just I do like
(17:13):
how you can pick and choose, you know, little pieces
of each show if you want to, you can you
can just piece it together that way.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, I mean, I do like that they switched over
that Netflix because one, you don't have to have cable.
That was my big thing about not watching rad and
have cable, and you could watch mac down on if
you didn't have cable. And I enjoyed being over there,
you know, I enjoyed on Netflix because, like you said,
you can like just even when it's lot, like I
don't have to watch it live. I can watch it
the next day and just dream, like, you know, go
(17:42):
through the stuff I don't want to watch, Like if
I don't want to see bron stroman wrestle, or I
don't want to see the random segment that they decided
to put in there, you know, I can just fast
forward through it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah. I think it's great that you know, you could
watch an episode of Row could be twenty minutes for
you if that's the only amount of it you wanted
to see, and you know that they do get kind
of reamed for. It'll be a three hour show and
there's only twenty two minutes of wrestling, so you could
really just skip around to all that other stuff. So yeah,
the Netflix thing is definitely a positive because you can
see the difference with like SmackDown, how it's kind of
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been left you know, they don't view it the same
way because it's not on Netflix, so you have to
base it off of the old way we looked at
things like that. But do you have like a you know,
even from from shows in the back, do you have
what what I would call the comfort show or match
that you will you know, refer back to all the
time that you like to watch, you know, from from
the past.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Joe versus Kabashi and ro Oh, I've seen that match.
Probably I could watch that match and call the I
can call the spots like, oh, this is what's gonna happen.
I've watched it so much. Joe and Kabaki versus Homicide
and Loki, like it's a tag match and it's it's
absolutely crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
We were talking in ah In before this, how like
I was always a huge fan of Loki, even he
turned out to not be like the nicest person later
in his career. But I mean happens with a lot
of people. Homicide too, Homicide just retired apparently had his
last match this past and.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I can't say enough about like he deserves it, Like
you know, he's part of like iconic matches and it's like, bro,
Like I didn't even realize he was still actively wrestling.
I was like, holy, Like he's still actively wrestling.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah. Like when the n w A brought back their
junior heavyweight title, they gave it to him to like
kick off the division and it was a really cool
way that you got to teach and wrestle all these
younger guys, and it was like that was a year
or two ago, but that was his last like mainstream
send off. But he's also one of those like damn,
I must be getting old because I remember when this
guy was like starting out, you know, and now he's
he's the veteran.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I remember watching him, Yeah, I remember watching him in
P and A with Hernandez.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yes, you know l for sure. Yeah, the original L
A X Yes, yes, not the other one was okay,
but it's you can't beat the original with them.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, and you brought in ConA, really brought in Conan
and it was like all right, yeah, dude, you're just
you know, one of the most iconic moments when uh
Conan pulled that gun when he had a gun in
a ring, I'm like, why is there a gun in
this ring? Like who didn't? And I also thought like
who is it? Like why hasn't somebody thought about this,
like in a wrestling and an ODQ match, like just.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Pull a gun, like we're like, you know, yeah, I
mean the closest thing. I think Kurt Angle pulled a
tranquilizer gun on Big Show one time and they shaved it,
like the closest thing to that.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
All Right, it'll be on a w TV next week,
so I'm gonna pull up John Boxery. He'll bring out
a live gun.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That's the only thing that guy hasn't done at this point.
So you might you might be right. You might have
called that a week or two before it happens, But.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I want to be on record that I said that
if it happens.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, this will be up before the next show, so
you'll be you'll be locked in in case it ever happens.
But for me, I always got to go to the
triple threat between AJ Styles, Samo Joe Christopher Daniels. I
am biased because I was at that show, so that
is your little extra little you know, linked to it
type thing. But yeah, that that's match. And then Eddie
Guerrero Ray Mysterio I WrestleMania twenty two and that was
(21:07):
just like an opening thing. And I love that match.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Rat Mysterio versus Eddie Carrero WCW when they're both like
in the Cruiserweight Like Cruiserweight is I'm like back when
I was wearing the purple suit. Yeah. Oh, it's just iconic,
like like watching him and Eddie just do a lut
like full on luter match and be like seamless with it,
and it's like geesus.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I mean, I would challenge anyone to find a match
that had Ray and Eddie in it that wasn't just
an absolute classic, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Another one I like to watch I'll add to this
is Chris Jericho versus Pegas's Kid, which was Chris bin
Wall's like japan gimmick name. Like it's just a it's
just a the Lionheart versus Pegasus Kid. I tell everybody
go watch it. It's great.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, it's part of like the j Cup or whatever
the tournament is over there, right, is that that one?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I'm not sure if it's part of the j Cup.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
But you know, I mean the Pegasus Kid was kind
of short lived, so they'd probably easy enough to find
it because he only had so many matches under that name.
So while we move forward here a little bit. You've
wrestled in a lot of places, a lot of you know,
coast to coast, you travel for wrestling all the time.
(22:22):
You've been in PWR since the inception, which we're coming
up on like a seven eight month mark. How do
you view PWR compared to places you've worked in the past,
and what is it like to be in a company
from the ground floor.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
As from you know, I've wrestled from everywhere from the
local Bengal hall to like outlaw mudshos, you know what
I mean. Like I've wrestled at fairgrounds. I've wrestled you know,
you know other places. I actually, as much as I
like dump on the city of the land in the
state of Ohio, I actually like being part of this
(22:54):
one leads a little more because I was like, you know,
I've been there from the inception. They were like, hey,
we want you to come be a part of this.
You know, management was like, hey, like you're being talked
about being part of this from the ground up, and
I'm like all right, like I'll do it, but it's
gonna cost you. It is kind of nice to be like,
you know, I do have some the land. You know,
I don't say roots, but you know I did spend
(23:15):
some time here back in like high school for a
little bit, and you know, like so it's like all right,
Like you get to wrestle for the people that you
said somewhat claim you, and you're like, I don't claim
any of you. So it's actually been one of my
favorite places to wrestle, you know. I mean there's been
some hiccups. You know, I got you know, I had
to go one on one with Ramos and that didn't
end well for me. So you know, it's not been great.
(23:36):
But you know, but you know, if people were at
the last show, they saw what happened.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yeah, I mean our last show, you went one on
one with you know, the heavyweight champ and former guest
of this show, Shane Evans. And while you didn't come
away with the wind respectfully like you, you showed everybody
what you're capable of.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You know, yeah, I think that was you know the
point is, you know, well, I mean the main point
was to take that title away from him, you know,
and to and somewhat proved to people that he's not
the Shane Evans everybody thinks he is. Like I say,
if they were if you were there, you know you
you heard I. You know, that's not the guy that
I know, Like, that's the guy came in the industry with,
(24:12):
like you know, like what's going on here, Like you
can fool those people. You can fool your fans, you
can fool your wife, but you can't fool me, you.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Know, because you know, you go back to you go
back a long time, right, we go.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Back a long time. And that's not the first time
Shane and I have danced, you know, so, but it
was the first time we danced for with a championship
on the line, you know. And you know, I prove that,
you know, I can go into those deep waters. And
you know he's you know, wasn't. I don't think he
was ready for me. Like I think when I came
out and answered his open challenge and he went into
(24:46):
that back locker, into this little private locker room, he thought, oh,
this is going to be an easy day at the office.
And I showed him it wasn't an easy day at
the office.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, and anyone that hasn't checked it out just yet.
The full match is on the PWR YouTube channel, so
he's not just bow smoke. You can see it for yourself.
They had a really banger of a match a couple.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Of weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Now, you guys, hear this.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So I didn't get beat by a roll up.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
That's true, you did not, And that's you know, that's
a factual statement, my friend.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
That is my factual statement. I took a trip to
larry County, to Larrytt Country, but who I've taken a
few trips there before too, So.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
So let me ask you, let me let's stick into
that for a minute, because that is the one thing
I kicked myself. I hope to have Shane on again.
I did not get a chance to ask him. Lariyot Country?
Is that you know? Where? Can I locate it on
a map? Is it an ever expanding thing? Is it
more of an idea? Can you elaborate on that at all?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Larry, I don't think there's an actual Laryot country or
county or anywhere. You know. It's like Ramos, he's the
mayor of chop city and I've been there once. But
there's no physical location. It's wherever you know it goes.
It's a state up. My best way is to put
it in a state of mind. You know. That's when
he hits listening. As much as I hate that that guy,
(25:58):
Shane Evans, when he hits you with that lariot, it
is every bit of the stiffest furmus lariot you've ever
been hit with. Like it's it knocked me when I
was laying I wasn't just laying on the ground on
that map after that pen because I wanted to. It
was because I had I don't know where I was
at for half a minute.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Right, And whether it's a physical place on a map
or a state of mind, I think Larry Country is
a place to avoid. I think we can agree on
that movie Cool.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, a Lariott Country and Chop City or places I
have put on I'm like, I'm not going.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Back there, right and and for your for your safety, man,
I do hope that happens. I hope you're able to
avoid them at all costs. Yeah. So obviously being being
a champion is an obvious goal for pw R. But
like in your time, in pd RP. What other things
are you hoping to accomplish as the company grows and
you grow.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I'm hoping that, like you know, like you said, be
the heavyweight champion or any champion. You know, I don't
matter if I'm Attack Team champion, doesn't matter if I
you know, there's other belt you know, there's other belts
you know coming in or what goes on, never know.
There are definitely a list of superstars I have written
out that I would love to beat Cleayton in the
middle of the ring, you know, you know, as angry
(27:09):
as he is at Alejandro Bravo guy. I think him
and I would have an absolute barn burner.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
You know, I weirdly think you guys would get along.
I don't know if you spent any time with him
backstage or anything, but that is the guy that I
don't know, you maybe get along more than more than
people think.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
No, he's angry everywhere. Like I told some rude guys
I one day we were showing I see him at
the venue and I was like, hey, Bravo, why are
you so angry? He looked me dead in the eyes
and says, what the fuck does it matter to you?
And I said, valid point. Valid point. Like like people
think like, oh, yeah, he just you know, he just
know he shows up angry. He doesn't drive angry because
(27:44):
he's like, hey, like I can It's the only time
he's not angry because he's like, I don't want to
go to jail. So he drives. He's a law abiding
citizen when it's driving, and maybe he's angry during the drive,
but like he just drive angry.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, it's all.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Like slamming doors. I'm his poor car, Like that door,
I don't know how it stays on, Like he slams
the door. He slams the trut when he's getting his
luggage out, you know, like he that's why he carries
a bag, because he got he said one time he
got so mad about his rolling luggage he's throw into
a lake.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I mean, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Gonna I'm not gonna question. And he could say, hey,
I the reason I carry a bag is because I
want to. And I'm like all right, cool, Like he
why would you throw your stuff in that? Like why
would you throw your luggage in the lake.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
So to follow that train of thought, you know, you
asked him at some point, like what makes you so angry,
So I think a fair rebuttal is what makes you
so entitled? How did that nickname catch on for you?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
You know, just being the millennials that you know, I
kept being tired of hearing boomers and other general generations
X being like, oh, you guys are so entitled. You're
so entitled. I'm like, yeah, but like you feel like
you should be entitled to be able to yell at
poor waitresses then when they don't send out your pie
the right way. So I just kind of was like,
you know what, if you think I'm entitled, I am like,
that's just how it is.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I mean, I can't poke a hole in that at all.
I think I feel the same way when people are
mean to waitresses or whatever else. So like, I agree
with you one hundred percent on that. So as we
move forward from you know, we talked about your match
with Shane or moving forward to next month's show. Part
of this agreement to being an official partner with p
w R is I get access to some information kind
(29:25):
of before it hits the public. So as a as
a gift to you actually for being nice enough to
come on the show. You know it is because you're
gonna before this is even posted. You're gonna know who
your next opponent is before he does. So I'm gonna
give you kind of this.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It better not be Kyle. If it's Kyle Steele, I'm
gonna I'm hanging. I am ending this dream like the
exact moment. All right, good news, good.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
News, it is not Kyle Steele.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Oh my god, I just can't deal with that bench.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
But later, so I got this email maybe an hour
before we hit record from PWR management. But I wanted
to let you know and the fans know that at
Globe Warming April twelfth, you will be going one on
one with none other than Tiberius. So I'd love to
know your boo boo.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
First of all, boo each sleet boo Tiberius, Jesus that
that man is just at the crying and whining about
how everything is a conspiracy and everybody's out to get him.
And at the end of the day, if you're gonna
keep crying but take no action, then there's nobody to
blame but yourself. You Tiberius. You call yourself a titan,
but you don't even like every titan can be defeated, like,
(30:30):
but you're knowing nothing to change this conspiracy against you.
I mean, what are you what is it gonna take?
Like you want to go against me in the ring,
that's fine, like do I need to sweeten the pot?
But what are you gonna do when I beat you
like Shane beats you with a simple roll up? There's
not much you can do about that. You know, you
(30:52):
can go and run your mouth on the internet and
claim conspiracies and this, that and the other. It's just
you can't handle what the deep down inside of you
that you can't beat me and beat other people, that
you lose, that you're not the man who think you are.
I guess on April twelfth, we're gonna find out which
one of us is the better man in the ring,
and it's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Me, beautifully said. Uh yeah, everyone will know now April twelfth,
that match and many others will be at Obi's Barn WOUNDE.
If you're in the DeLand area, you're gonna want to
check it out Forrest. Thanks again, man, I appreciate your time.
I hope that piece of information made this whole visit
worth it for you.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
It did, it did made it worthwhile. Let me, I
gotta do the corporates Fiel because it's in my contract
for when I YOURSS April twelfth, Obi's Barn Lounge. As
you stated, we need to. You know, we've got we've
got global Warming. We've already like we just announced two
matches now apparently we've got the tag team ladder match
(31:47):
that we're gonna have with the House of Spades, big deal,
the cow yos and unnatural causes and you know who
comes out of that victory, Like, that's a match that
people should if you're that's gonna be the worth the
price of a mission. You know, there's gonna be ladders,
there might be a table, there might be a few chairs.
You know, there's gonna be high flying and the people
(32:09):
somebody's gonna go through a table. I'm not promising anything.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
But yeah, a lot more information will come out in
these next few weeks. Hopefully you're in the area, hopefully
you can go. But if you're not, stay tuned to
the PWR YouTube channel. You'll be able to see the
results and all the action as it comes around. And uh,
if you're a wrestling fan, if you're in the area,
even if you're not, make sure you give a subscribe
because I'm gonna have more interviews like with Forrest and
other guys on the roster.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
So, uh, don't get that Kyle. Don't get that Kyle
Steel guy on here.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I mean, I think he's contractually obligated at some point.
So I don't know, Man, I can't. I would hate
to lie to you, So I think it might happen
at some point. That's all I can say.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I'm I gonna talk to I'm gonna go talk to
management about that. I'll find d D. I don't know
who she is. I have to go. I might have
to take a special trip to the to the Florida
to go talk to DV and D. I mean, make
sure that doesn't happen, all.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Right, dude, you gotta do man. But again, thank you
for all the time and good luck on the Twelfth
Man A.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Thank you, and uh hey, follow us on if you're
seeing this, follow us on our social media PWR you know, Facebook, Instagram,
and your YouTube page. Give us a like, follow and share.
And if you're live in the DeLand area, come see us,
you know, bring your kids. Pay to see me so
I can pay my bills.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
It's a family, family show for the most part. So yeah,
bring the kids, bring bring the dog. We've had some
dogs out there too.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, like ugly ass dog, not ugly. There's a strict
no ugly dog rules. It's my own but I but
you know, avocado toast is expensive, so please come support us.
I can buy my alvocado toast.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
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DeLand area. Follow the socials fall Forest to go hang
out with him. He's he's always got funnytuff.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
That follow me in real life though, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
One.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, follow the other barking lives. It's not gonna l
a right.
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That's gonna do us for today, guys. So thanks for listening,
Give us a subscribe and we'll see you next time.
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