Philadelphia Eagles are Super Bowl 59 Champions

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
How's it going, guys, Thanks for tuning in to another
episode so up the Philip Talk Sports Podcast. It's been
nine days, but it does not get any less fun
to say that the Philadelphia Eagles are Super Bowl fifty
nine champions. I'm here with PR fifty two. Soon we'll
have to be renamed PR fifty two to fifty nine,
but we'll talk about that later. You would be forgiven

(00:32):
to not know that we actually have talked about the
Super Bowl already. We kind of did an improv to
live stream maybe an hour after the game, and if
you didn't see it yet, which is fine, because that's
what we're doing this version too. One of us was
a constant professional and the other one of us was
really drunk, So if you haven't seen it, you can
guess which one was which. But hey, I appreciate you

(00:54):
sobering up for part two. Man, Thanks for that.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, yeah, of course, Like I don't think I've ever
had that much alcohol since, uh, since I was in college.
And I didn't even drink that much in college, you know, right,
But so you know, we'll call this one. We'll call
this one the sober Edition. We're gonna talk about the
game a little bit. There isn't much that we.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Can say about the game that hasn't already been said
by other people. But we are going to start with
the game, and then in these past nine days, like
so much has happened post game that's worth talking about,
but it's still involving being Super Bowl champions. So we
can start all straight up probably just give our main
thoughts on this. So, uh, how many times? Let's start here?

(01:40):
Have you rewatched it in any capacity?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, I you know, I've watched the highlights, of course,
like I've seen some of the specials, including the well
I went ahead and went back on I think it's
the yes, the end plus app and I look back
at all of the the playoff games from and and

(02:06):
of course the Super Bowl from the what's that the
the show is called Turning Point. I was watching the
Turning Point specials, and you know, it's it's good to
kind of see like a breakdown of what was going on,
what the players were thinking, what the coaches were thinking,

(02:29):
both from the losing and winning side. And I think
that the most interesting part about this whole thing was
that was how excited the defense was that they never
blitzed once like I think there was like a part
where Zach Bond is talking to like Nick Morrow or

(02:50):
something like that, and he's and by the way, Nick
morro is a champion, imagine that where he's just like
he's just like he's basically like, we didn't blitz once,
and he's like, yeah, we did blitz once. And I
just think that that was amazing that we did not
blitz once. I think that it's so crazy that over

(03:11):
the last like twenty years, we were always blitzing and
we were playing a team that always blitzes and we
didn't do it once. I also thought it was interesting
that when we were up twenty four to nothing, Chiefs
fans were like, oh yeah, Tom Brady and the Patriots
they came back. This is nothing. And of course, like
while I was watching the game, I was like, we

(03:33):
need to score more points. We need to score more points.
Twenty four to nothing, that's nothing. But obviously in hindsight
you can look back and you were like, even if
we only scored twenty four points, we still want one.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean I had a similar thing where once it
was like after the pick six, really like my phone
starts blowing up. But I think I mentioned this on
the stream, but it'll be a lot more coherentt this time.
The all I was doing was sending people back the
Kobe Bryant meme of like jobs not finished, because I
wasn't gonna get in like text conversations with people. So

(04:07):
I must have sent that meme out fifteen twenty times
throughout the night because even like in the third quarter
of people are like, all right, you can be happy now,
and I just sent I sent to the same people
twice or three times. So we had a similar mindset,
and I'm I guess the same thing. The micd up version,
that's what you know. That's what I used to call
in it, but I think it is called turning point.

(04:29):
And you could see the Patriots like, not the Patriots,
but they mentioned the Patriots. The chiefs were like they
wanted that to be in their version of the turning
Point if they came back and won, so that you
almost felt like they wanted seats of being like, no,
we can come back from this, this isn't this isn't
too much. And I think the part that really broke

(04:50):
them it was before the strips fumble, but I forget
which player it was. We just looked at somebody's like, man,
they're tagged. Like that was where the deflation and came from.
Where it's like, not only are they getting to them,
but like it's ugly when they do. And granted, as
the in real time when the game was happening, I
didn't realize there wasn't blitz is going on. That was

(05:12):
something you kind of went late in the game. But
to imagine the other thing I thought of one about
that is so vindicated from two years ago about how
bad that field was. Granted, this is like a very
different line from them, but it's like, clearly you can
see the difference of like and that is the strength
of your team and it's taken away and you still

(05:33):
almost win when you actually had What a difference it makes.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, And of course in the Turning Point episode they
spend about because the Chiefs really didn't do anything. They
spent like five minutes being like, well, a few years ago,
the Kansas City Chiefs were down twenty four to nothing
against the Houston Texans in the playoffs and they won
the game on to thirty something. And then the next

(06:02):
game they were down to the Tennessee Titans something something.
They came back, and then they were down by ten
points to the forty nine ers and Super Bowl in
fifty four or something like that, and they came back
and won. And they were down by ten points to
the Eagles, and they came back and won, and they
went down again forty nine ers ten points and they won.

(06:22):
And it's like you spent five minutes doing that and
it was completely meaningless. I think that the final thing
that I noticed about those videos was especially when it
came to the Chiefs. Every single time the Eagles got
a turnover, you could see Chris Jones super frustrated, being like, oh,
because I gotta put this helmet back on again. And

(06:43):
I was just like yeah, he was just like oh,
like just super mad that he had to put that
helmet back on again. And I was like, you just
do your job like I would. I would. I'd be
frustrated too, to be honest, I would be frustrated too.
And talking about frustrations, like people were kind of pissed
at like the the spin the announcers were like, well,

(07:04):
the Chiefs came back here and then the other time,
so like the basically Nile But I mean, if you've
ever called a game and it's starting to look ugly.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
You kind of have to take that route in it.
So like I'm not upset that they had to. They're
not going to say, like, all right, guys, this one's over.
Go enjoy Seinfeld reruns like they're not gonna say that.
So I'm totally fine with the whole you know, hey,
they could come. Like we were all thinking it too
up to that point. I mean even late in the
third quarter, you know, people were just like, all right,

(07:35):
let's let's just keep this moving here. It was the
last thing anybody expected. Like did we think we could win? Yeah, absolutely,
we both said it like the week beforehand. But like
nobody would have ever guessed the score and the score
Kadi a Paliga a blowout it was because you know
that score may say forty to twenty two, but forty

(07:55):
to six is really what could have easily been the
ending of this game. So like it's just what a
shock it was. And like, I think I'm still coming
to terms. I've only watched My only replay of it
has been the Turning piked up thing. But you know,
it replays on the NFL network basically nightly right now,
and I happen to get home and it was right
at the back to back Sex and Cooper pick six.

(08:17):
So I watch till the half and then go to
bed because it was like eleven o'clock so it was
like the perfect couple of minutes. So that's the only
part I've watched back, just in normal real time. But yeah,
I don't think I'll ever get old. I think the
micd up will be the easier thing to go back
and rewatch because it's just a little more SEC and stuff.

(08:38):
But where's fifty two even now and watch it and
like I get nervous when Brady makes the comeback, even
now it's been seven years. You won't have that for
this one. So you can watch this one at any
enjoyment level you want. You can jump into the game
at literally any point in the game and still enjoy it.
Just what a big difference system.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
And still be winning. I I think that it is
super incredible to watch all that stuff and they make
it so quickly. I'm looking forward to the America's game one,
the one where like there's like four or five people
narrating it, which I mean Jalen Hurts will be one

(09:17):
of them. Nick Sirianni will be another one, probably AJ Brown,
and then either Darius Lay or CJ. Gardner Johnson will
be the other one, like or Zach. They might put
Zach Vaughn in there, but they gotta have a defensive player,
and they probably like one of the loudmouth defensive players, you.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Know, yeah, definitely. The other thing I noticed with that,
like the biggest difference is when you look at fifty two,
is the Philly Special is what gets highlighted the most?
And I think in this game, and this can kind
of jump into our other topics, like what is the
single play in this one? Is it the pick six?

(09:54):
Or is it the play that's been named the Devonte Dagger?
What do you think is gonna be what this game
is remembered for.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I think it's the pick six because you have to
think of it like this. I can't think of a
single white defensive back or cornerback in all of Super
Bowl history who has ever returned a pick six in
the Super Bowl, right Like, I can't think of a
single one. And it really brings the times back to

(10:24):
like the fifties and the forties when it was like
basically all white players who like were what like garbage
man and yeah, like coal miners. But I think it
really is that. Of course, like if we are going
to jump to that topic fifty two versus fifty, do

(10:46):
you want to do that right now?

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Because I sill can Yeah, I was going to go
to that next. I agree with you that it is
six because even the amount of pick six is in
a Super Bowl is probably like under ten. So that
alone is like and like in recent times, there was
one in the Falcon Super Bowl with the Patriots, there
was the Tracy Porter pick six with the Saints, and

(11:10):
just in like modern times, that's the only one, and
then the couple in like the bus.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
There was there was a there was a ty Law one,
and then there were like three in that bucks Rough.
I think I think there's I think there's more like fifteen.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Sure, but it's it's bird and I think, uh, I
think outside of Eagles fan base, it'll be the Cooper
one one thousand percent, and then with Eagles fans it's
kind of it'll be closer to a mixed bag. But
I think the Cooper pick.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Six And honestly, like unlike the Philly Special, which was
like needed to win that game, we didn't need that
to win, like we could have that drive, could have
been a four minute drive for a touchdown or even
a field goal. And it doesn't it doesn't change the

(11:58):
complexion of the game at all, Like in any way,
because what was it right after that happened when it
was thirty four thirty four to nothing, they started scoring
the first point, ye, so for sure. Yeah, So I
mean it's it's less it's more of an inconsequential play
than the the.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
The pick six.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
The pick six was undoubtedly needed, you know, because that's
where we were and what we did.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
And the you know, one of the other big things is,
like we always to this day we talked about like
the piss poor performance that Al Michaels gave on the
microphone in fifty two, the announcers in this one saying like, oh,
the Eagles could run out the clock here potentially, Oh
they're actually going to go for it all and like
he had a beautiful call on that dagger. So that
that's a big difference to I want, I want to

(12:47):
give hats off to that. But you touched on.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Berk Harter or whatever his name is, burk Hart, Well,
you know, you know Burkhart is an Eagles.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Fan, right, yeah, people were bad about like this is
that Wayne Advance. They can call them up and be
like like announcer can affect the game or something.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I don't understand that at all. But because and it's
human nature that you always you know, compare Soning as
a thief and joy, but we compare things all the time.
And the quick discourse became not like what game is
better necessarily, but what super Bowl means more to you?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah? I'm yeah, I would say the first one is
more meaningful to me because it's just one of those
situations where our whole lives, like you're what two years
younger than me, our whole lives. You are told you
will never win a super Bowl. You will never win
a super Bowl. Look at this on my hand, you
will never win that. It's like that one bor at

(13:48):
moment where the guy's like, aha, you will never get this,
and then eventually like we got it, and that team
was just it reminded me of kind of like one
of those teams that just randomly got thrown together. Like
we had a backup quarterback, we didn't have a single
thousand yard receiver, we didn't have a thousand yard running back,

(14:10):
the defense was was also kind of like randomly put together,
like a sixth round corner, a third round corner. Really,
like the only good players on the team were like
members of the defensive line and Malcolm Jenkins on the
defense at least, Like it was just it's a cluster
that was like put together, and they just happened to

(14:30):
be the best team in the NFL that year, which
like somehow everyone else like Drew Brees and and all
the all the good Aaron Rodgers just you know took
took themselves out to lunch. So I feel like that
team it's meaningful to me more because of course, like
I'm Nick Foles is my favorite quarterback of all time,

(14:53):
but like when it comes to just dominating teams, like
of course when Nick Nick Rice charge dude ninety five
puts together every franchise's greatest team, like he's gonna have
to put this Eagles team in there and replace it
with the twenty seventeen team, because well, the twenty seventeen
team like was a pretty good team, Like they weren't

(15:16):
that good and they they didn't really have this tough
of a road to the super Bowl. And I think
that when it comes down to it. Like this game
really just hit harder because going into this Super Bowl
we were still underdogs, but like I was expecting, you know,
we're gonna have It's gonna be the team that has

(15:37):
the ball on the last drive, that's the team that's
gonna win, like just like the last one, Just like
the last one or the last two, you know, with
Patrick Mahomes and with with the Eagles with Nick Foles.
I was like like thinking in my head, like Patrick
Mahomes is gonna throw this ball deep and like the
ball is gonna fall to the ground and the cornerbacks

(15:58):
are gonna look at each other and be like we
just won the Super Bowl like the first one, and
I was just like this one, it's like, wow, We're
winning thirty four to nothing with two minutes left to
go in the third quarter. It's like it just didn't
Like I was already starting to process that we were

(16:20):
going to be Super Bowl secon two times Super Bowl
champions with like ten minutes left to go in the game.
And I was just like waiting for the shirt and
the hat to appear on the on the Fanatics website
to buy it. Like everybody left. Everyone's like congratulations, you won,
and there's ten minutes left to go in the game. Well,
in the first one, I was like, when Brady fumbled

(16:42):
the ball, the bar's going crazy. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
not yet. We're only winning by five points right now.
And then obviously what happened happened.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I mean, I'll compare the two like this, when the
hail mary from Brady and hit the ground, like I
bowled like a baby for a couple of minutes. But
in this one, since like basically from the pick six on,
I was just in that whole night, so like, the
emotions did not hit in the same way. I think

(17:16):
the same emotions were there. It was just in a fog.
It just like I can't believe this is happening. I
had to put my phone on airplane mode because I
was getting all the texts and it's like I cannot believe.
And to the point where you know, Mahomes is throwing
these garbage touchdowns at new new rule. By the way,

(17:37):
any point scored in the Super Bowl after the other
teams and doused in gatorade do not count. All right,
they might, but they don't count. New rule implemented effective
media realistically, you know it's it's been I and so
this is I'm gonna here, and his thoughts on this

(17:59):
were like nothing short of poetic. But fifty two was
a dream for us and fifty nine was a nightmare
for them. And that's like the biggest average this. I
would say that the other one, the I think in
the other one, the rest of the league was legitimately
happy for us, when in normal years one geam is
happy and thirty one teams are pissed. And that's more

(18:21):
like what this So the first one just felt like
a fairy tale? Or is this one left no doubt?
So I think over time this one will feel feel better.
You never forget your first, but I think overall you
might have to lean towards this one. But here's my
other question, and this is this is I have to
throw this out here too. If you can go back,

(18:44):
you can turn back time. As the song says, would
you rather have fifty seven? Because we get fifty seven,
we don't get fifty nine because we wouldn't sign Barkley,
who would have just tried to kep keep team together,
So chances are we don't get would you So basically,
what I'm asking you, would you rather Barkley and some
of these young guys have their rank or would you
rather Jason Kelsey have his second? Is really what the

(19:06):
question will boil out to, would you rather have one
fifty seven? Or had things the way they are be
a little too soon that question? But I think it's
a good debate.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I think the way I think the way this universe
wrapped up is is good enough. Like, of course, like
we were all super depressed two years ago, and you know,
losing the Super Bowl suck. Losing the Super Bowl the
way that we did two years ago suck like it was.
It was not fun to be up twenty four to

(19:38):
nothing and be the victim, just another victim of Patrick
Mahomes and his uh, you know, rally to come back,
and of course, like the whole thing with James Bradberry
and you know the awful conditions of that field. But
you know, I'm just happy for Sakeuon Barkley, Jason Kelcey,

(20:01):
he has his ring, he has his one ring that
he won with us the first time. You know, I
think that you know, well, Cox, Fletcher Fletch and Jason
they don't get to win that second ring you know
you It's really is a feel good story for Saquon
Barkley because if you remember a week eighteen of the

(20:21):
season when everyone was like, Saquon Barkley's got to get
the record because you probably aren't gonna win the Super Bowl,
and we were. I was one of those people who
was like, well, the game doesn't matter number one, number two,
Like sure, like there's a theory that says that if
you if you don't try in that last week, you

(20:42):
might not do as well the next week. But I
was like, you know, Sekuon Barkley had a great season
and he had a great play Like, no one performed
in the NFL in the playoffs in those three playoff
games better than Saquon Barkley did. It's not a single

(21:03):
soul on any other team was as great as Saquon
Barkley was. Now, is it a shame that he couldn't
replicate that performance in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I mean that does suck, But I mean at the
same time, it's like, would you rather have a great
game in the Super Bowl and lose much like Jalen
Hurts did last time?

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Or would you rather win the Super Bowl? You know?
Would you rather win the MVP or would you rather
win the super Bowl? Because you never know what could
have happened in that Week eighteen game. If all the
starters in Saquon plays, maybe we don't even Maybe we
do win the super Bowl, but maybe we don't. Like
the record didn't matter as much as the super Bowl mattered.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Of course didn't would have been great if he if
he got that regular season rushing, sure, but guess what
he got the season record by making it all the
way to the super Bowl and you'll getting twenty five
hundred plus yards and I do want to squash and
you're not that you were spinning this narrative that you
would kind of danced around it and other people the

(22:10):
general if you had to wrap up the Super Bowl
in one sentence, it was the Chiefs went through hell
in the creation to stop Saquon bark opened up somebody
else for Jalen Hurts to pick them apart, and the
defense played amazing That you could wrap up the it
just like that. But the narrative that other people are
spinning that they fully bottled up Barkley. We need to

(22:32):
stop pretending he didn't have just under one hundred yards
up totally. He had three or four runs for first downs.
He had the giant catch that he's not known for
big catches like that. Like he played like he played
any other running backs version of a good game, you
know what I mean. Granted that's not Barkley level, but
I remember sitting here saying, like, if he gets eighty
yards in a touchdown and everybody eats, we can still

(22:54):
win this. I was off by like twenty yards, and
obviously he didn't score the touchdown, but maybe if like
instead of that DeVante dagger, we chew the clock and
and he gets one in from three yards out. Like,
I don't think it changed his legacy. I mean, and
you saw in the micd up thing where Jalen Hurt said, like,
you know you you were the difference. You're why we're here,
which is why, like we're gonna talk merch here probably

(23:15):
in a minute. But I haven't gotten like the Super
Bowl jersey yet, And like the Cooper de Jeans are
going out of style, the Hurts are coming back in
style pretty quick, but like the Barkers aren't selling quite
as fast of the performances of other people. But I
would not be ashamed to get his Super Bowl jersey

(23:36):
because he had an above average game for anybody else,
and he is the reason you are there. You know,
it's no different than wearing a Fletcher Cox fifty two jersey.
Yet he only had one tackle in the statue, but
like he has a big part of why that there.
So you know, I just never want the narrative to
be like, well, they successfully stop you know, they successfully

(23:57):
slowed down Barklut, but that was still enough to make
everyone else so like he still played as good as
you really could have hoped for? Yeah, could he have
broken off another extra runner two?

Speaker 2 (24:09):
And yeah, I think that.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
I think even though he didn't have the greatest statistical game, Like,
at the end of the day, if Saquon Barkley had
zero yards and a hundred rushes and we still won
the Super Bowl, it's it doesn't it doesn't matter. It
shouldn't matter to like, as an Eagles fan, we all
know that the Eagles won two championship games in their

(24:37):
whole history, seven to nothing and fourteen to nothing where
the quarterback threw like three completed three out of like
fifteen passes, and no one's saying that Tommy Thompson wasn't
an NFL champion, you know what I'm saying, Like, I
think that when it comes to like like fantasy football.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Has really like like ruined our like righted our brains
in the sense of like, if you don't have a
three hundred yard passing game and you don't score four
touchdowns every single game, and you don't have one hundred
rushing yards and three touchdowns, then you're just a failure player,
you know what I'm saying. So it's it's just I

(25:19):
feel like it's just one of those situations where this
does not ruin his legacy. And I truly, I truly
think that you know, he is.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
He is one of the reasons why the Eagles are
there in the first place.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
All Right, we had to take a small break because
internet is not always awesome, but we should be good now.
No more breakups and stuff. So we're gonna just continue
the conversation here. We were just getting done with the
like the Saquon Barkley situation of like, yeah, when someone
has ninety seven yards of total offense, like you contained him,
you didn't stop him, all right, and when everyone else
did what they did, he was perfectly you know, and

(26:00):
he could have. And we've seen other running backs and
other playmakers do this when they're not having their way
like they are used to doing. They try to do
too much and maybe they fumble, maybe they get behind
the sticks. None of that happened. So just one more
time before we move on. I think he played the
perfect spot in this game that he could have. Could
he have breaken broken a run or two, sure, But like,

(26:23):
I don't want to hear anyone say that Barkley wasn't
effective in this game because it's simply not true.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
You know, I think that there's like a Giants fan
somewhere who's like, say, Quin Barkley didn't do anything in
the Super Bowl. I knew he sucked.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, oh there, we'll talk about it later. But some
of the narratives that have been spun in this game
as mental gymnastics that like evil Knievel couldn't make the
leaps if some of these people are making.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
But I mean, most of you guys in your media
was already saying that he sucked and he was going
to get injured by week three, and he none of
that happened. So, I mean, there was a point in
time this offseason where like Giants fans were like, Mario
Manningham is a better Giant than Saquon Barkley. I'm like, like,

(27:11):
on what planet? I mean, did he did you for,
like catching one pass in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah? But and like this is this actually could lead
into something else I wanted to talk about later, But
like we need to as a narrative, as a people,
as a human football collective community need to understand the
difference of a better player and a more successful player,
Like is Mario Manningham a more successful New York Giant? Sure?

(27:41):
Is he a better football player? Absolutely not? And both
can be true.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
So like Saquon Barkley is probably a top one or
two running back in Giants history, and Mario Manningham probably
doesn't even make the like probably doesn't even make Nick
Rice's the SFL all great team roster for the Giants, you.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Know, Yeah, I mean, who would you put in front
of him, like the Tiki Barbers, the Amad Bradshaw type running.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Backs speaking Tiki Barber, Like what's his name, like Morris
or something like that. There's a guy who was Morris
Otis Anderson maybe back in the day. Yeah, but he's yeah,
I mean no, matter how how you want to spin it.
Like you said, there's a difference between someone being better
than someone being, you know, more successful, Like Trent Dilfer

(28:39):
has a ring and and Dan Marino doesn't like that
doesn't mean he's better.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
He was more successful in super Bowls. That's just a
factual statement. That doesn't mean he's a better quarterback. And
anyone that thinks he is should be executed on the spot.
So it's not even like you know, it's and that's
the what is truly broken the Internet that I've seen
in these nine days is like they're trying to say

(29:05):
that any of these other guys would have won a
super Bowl with this. We sucked for eighteen weeks to
these people, and now we have a super team. I
don't know how that happened overnight, but apparently it did,
you know, hass off to us somehow.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Howie Roseman only picked consens, the great consensus players like
Quinnyon Mitchell and Cooper dejen And that makes that means
he sucked. But apparently like the guys who he picked
were still good. I don't really I don't really get that.
I came up with a thing today. I was like, look,

(29:39):
if if the Philadelphia Eagles could win with an average quarterback,
which that's what they're saying, Jalen Hurts is just just
an average quarterback. Which if that's how you feel, that's
how you feel. No one can, no one, no one's
changing your mind. Yeah, why don't you just like why
do you even have Josh Allen, Joe Lamar Jackson to

(30:02):
a type of aloa Dak Prescott brock perty in the
first place, Like why don't you just why don't you
just build a super team with all the money that
you were going to pay your starting quarterback, And why
don't you just go sign like Jake Browning or Tommy
DeVito or like twenty seventeen like the twenty seventeen Nathan

(30:26):
Peterman and be your quarterback, Like show you show us
how everybody else but the quarterback can be successful if
the quarterback is average to below average, Like you show
us how you how to do it? Like why are
you wasting your time with these elite to semi elite

(30:47):
quarterbacks who are like MVP candidates who can't even beat
Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs. I mean, you show us
how it's done.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Okay, people need to understand too that what you just
described is how football was constructed for a solid like
thirty years prior to like modern times, or like you
had a good, solid, tough, good leader of a quarterback
and you put shit around him to be successful. That's
how this sport, initially, you know, in modern times, was

(31:18):
set up to be. So when people are on Twitter
saying like I no, I agree with the sentiment. When
people say like, not all championships are created equal, a
lot of people can look at like what Kevin Durand
did with the Warriors is not the same as like
what Steph did before and after him, and then you
can think of examples. I wanted to just make this
abundantly clear. I don't care if Jalen Hurts is better
than Josh Allen, Patrick, Mahomes, you know, anybody, because he wins,

(31:44):
and that's what we're supposed to care about. I got
news for you. Tom Brady was not the best athlete
at the quarterback position ever. He was in a system
and I'm not calling him a system quarterback, but like
once it was built around him. He drove that bus
for two decades and it worked. If we can drive
this bus for half a decade and win another one

(32:07):
that's successful, and you got to look at him the
way you look at like a Ben Roethlisberger at least,
you know. So I don't care if someone's good. I
care if they win. And that's the way people should
view this stuff, and they just don't. I mean people.
I've seen people post Patrick Mahomes highlights from this Super Bowl,

(32:27):
like those three touchdowns he threw when when the game
was over, and they're like, Oh, this is the most
impressive throw I've ever seen. I'm like, but it didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
It's Smith had a much more impressive you know, the
other way up.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
So I do want to move kind of past the
game a little bit, but I do want to put
that out there that moving forward, I don't care if
my player is better than your player, but if my
player beats your player, act accordingly. That's that's all I'm
trying to say. But let's talk something that we care
a lot about, not everybody necessarily, but let's talk Super
Bowl merch because we talk about it all the time.

(33:04):
That back in fifty two, which I might go grab
the hat if I get a minute here, it's one
of the ugliest Super Bowl hats in like modern history.
I think that's been corrected with the hat this year.
I do gotta say I like the fifty two shirt better.
This shirt's fine. I like, you know what you'd expect.
But my hot take might be that I like the
fifty two shirt better, but the fifty nine hat is leaks,

(33:27):
leagues and bounds better. What's your opinion.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
I didn't mind the hat, you know, it's sure, it's
like it's a it's shiny and in certain ways, and
it's it's much more different than this hat because I
feel this hat is kind of like it's it feels bigger,
yees sense, and the back of it is kind of
like a snap hat. The other one was like was

(33:52):
more of like a velcrow thing. I actually bought the
hat of leading up to the Super Bowl that like
all the players wore like during the media time. Yeh,
because I thought that that was the super Bowl hat
when I bought it. But I feel like I didn't
like the shirt because it did it felt too heavy.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
It was heavy, but I, for all I know, that's
how there's that's what a super Bowl shirt's supposed to
look like. I have no idea if you know the case,
that's truly how I felt. I'm like, yeah, so that part,
this just feels like a T shirt, a regular T
shirt you could get anywhere, Whereas that was some sort
of material that was definitely that was some.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Weird That was some weird material. I mean, of course,
the shirts are supposed to be made like extremely cheap,
because you know, the NFL just sends all that merchandise
to a to a third world country, which is really
awkward because they're about to get Kansas City Chiefs three
pen and they're like, wait, last year they didn't win.

(34:50):
Last year they got forty nine ers merchandise.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
That that would be very confusing to them. But luckily
they won't have to deal with that because I heard
that shipment was actually intercepted by Cooper to John so
they won't get it anyway, So it's fine. One thing
about this hat, that'll be a snapshot of the time.
I don't know if you've noticed being on like lids
or any sort of website, but the whole like rope
thing on the front here is very much of the times.

(35:13):
It's like a lot of hats have that, and I
don't I'm pretty neutral on it, but it'll just be
like ten years from now, like, oh, that was a
very twenty twenty four thing to do to the hat.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
You know, kids are going to be like, dad, what's that?

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, You're like, I don't know because that used to
be for just like fishing hats and stuff, because you
could like like.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Golf hats or something like that.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, So what other merch? So the only merch that
I've I've gotten so far is right here. I did
buy the ESPN magazine, which great work on that because
normally we look forward to the Sports Illustrated. Sports Illustrated
is not around anymore. ESPN really picked up the slack
on that, so if you get a chance to pick
up that, it's like a ninety page just really good quality.

(35:56):
Like if you ever get a chance to pick that up,
and it was fifteen dollars, I fully expected it to
be forty nine to ninety nine or some bullshit. So like,
hats off to them for putting that together. But as
far as that, anything else I've ordered isn't here yet.
I do look forward to like updating that later, but
a lot of it even said like hey, this isn't
shipping till August. It's like cool, I'm putting in for
it now. So you know, as of stuff I have,

(36:19):
you know, I've spent a good amount on some stuff.
But it'll be like it's like past me is gifting
future me some stuff because I will forget, like what's
coming when, and I'm gonna get home from work and
there's gonna be a big old box of stuff and
I'm like, oh, thanks, past me. But what else have
you purchased? Or is it just this?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
This has been it? You know, it's it's one of
those things where last time I got the hat and
the two hats and the T shirt. You know, I
have a lot of Eagles hats and you know, it's
a collection that continues to grow. And Kelly kind of
looks at it and she's just like, you don't.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Wear I mean I have the have you ever seen
that thing you can hang behind your door that you
can like stuff with your hat?

Speaker 3 (37:02):
I have.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
A place to put it. It's just she's just a
very she's a very practical person. Like she's very practical
in the sense of like if I don't wear this,
I don't need it, you know, but yeahship stuff it
might be a little bit.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Oh yeah, definitely, And like I am more likely, like
if I could only get one, I am much more
likely to buy the hat of an occasion than a shirt.
The shirts just always go by the wayside. I think
it's a little easier to preserve a hat. But no,
Hank has so many Eagles hats. He actually sent me
one the other day, so it's sitting right here. It
just like it still looks brand new for the most part,
so he takes good.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Care of the back is kind of man, It's okay.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
But I mean the fact that this white, all this
white here is still like brand new white is you know,
hats off to you, sir.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
I don't know what I did. Yeh didn't clean it,
didn't clean the outside once, But I think it's I
think a lot of it has to do with like
I mostly just wore it for like one season, Like
that was the nine season.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Right, my favorite one if I can remember. I think
it's the eight season. We've We've had this conversation before,
but like sideline hats have not been great in recent years.
Draft hats have fallen off a cliff every like four
or five years. You'll get a good one, but that's
about it. But that made that might be good.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
I think a lot of it has to do with
the fact that back then they made they made a
draft hat, they made two sideline hats, and they made
like like I remember, I remember the the hats. What
they would do. What they used to do was for

(38:40):
one year at least. I remember Super Bowl thirty nine,
the hat that Donovan McNabb was wearing was like the
draft hat for the next for that season or something. Yeah,
and then now that New Era makes everything, it's just
like they'll just they'll make anything and just mass produce it,
and they're like sideline hat, you know. Yeah, So I

(39:01):
don't know some of some of those sideline hats they
kind of that New Era makes, they kind of just
like morphed together. And they all looked some of them,
they all look the same. They're not really that creative, right.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
I think the big issue is like New Era. I mean,
half the hats I have on this wall are probably
New Era. I'm fine with New Era, but Rebok just
made really good, practical, well put together. Every year was
completely different stuff. And just the fact that Reebok isn't
partner with the NFL and a capacity is kind of
a bummer to me.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
You always looked forward to the draft hats because they
were all those They were all like mesh. They were
all like mesh in the back kind of trucker hats,
but they were flex fit, whereas now it's just like
what are you doing? You know?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
So, like I used to never wear snapback hats, but
when snapback got popular, fitted, the quality of fitted hats
went down the drain, so you almost had no You
could buy a fitted hat, but it looked like crap.
It never held its shape, so you didn't even didn't
even bother with it anymore. So that's why I kind
of I went kicking and screaming in the snapbacks. Now
that's like ninety percent of what I have, because it's
what fits and what looks good. You guys didn't think

(40:09):
you were getting fashion advice on this podcast, but we
we got you covered. Let's let's jump to parade talk.
I I remember, I think with the fifty two parade,
people just remember the Jason Kelsey stuff. They don't remember
all the little things. I think, all the stuff that
happened with this parade, including like the mayor taking too
long to uh to give her speech. Eagles, No, she

(40:34):
can't so that was that was rough to witness. Some
of the highlights Josh Sweat wearing Chris Long's fur coat
were you assumed and I agreed with your assumption that
it was going to be Brandon Graham that has to
wear it ended up being Sweat very cool. I think
Josh Sweat, if not Jalen Hurts, could have easily been

(40:54):
the Super Bowl MVP and had he wanted people in
the bat and eye at it. So if he wants
to wear the fur coat, wear the amfer coat.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
When Chris Long came out and he said, oh, you know,
I've had someone called me about it. Someone, I think
someone said like Quinn that they thought it was going
to be like one of the defensive backs. It thought
of the going to be a defensive end because none
of those guys, none of those other guys remember Chris Long,
like let alone, like someone who played with him is

(41:22):
going to contact him. It's not going to be like
it's not going to be CJ. Gardner, Johnson or anything
like that.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Well, I think people thought it was gonna be Cooper
because like he has had some of these modern guys
on his podcast, so like they might know him from that.
But I wouldn't have guess Sweat. It makes perfect sense
that it is. But do you agree with my sentiment
that if it wasn't Hurts as MVP, that it could
have easily been Josh Sweat.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, or for Cooper or Cooper Degene.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
If Cooper had like another stat thing to throw in there,
because like he played amazing, but like his stats are
like two tackles and a pick six, which you know,
I'll take it, but no, I agree if he had,
like we didn't blitz, but if we blitzed him off
off the edge and he got a sack or something
like that alone could have put him over the top.
But yeah, so the other I I loved seeing Jake

(42:11):
Elliott kick beer field goals on the side. Uh. The
story of Sakuon Barkley finds ball boy in crowd and
pulls him over there. That was not That was a
ball man, all right. That was a full grown man
that he just pulled over like a like a toddler,
like a little kid. That was that was awesome.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I'm thinking it Jordan mallotta pick up a child and
carry them out into into the parade.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yeah, something like that. So I will see the speeches
were a little less like because again we think of
the mum or see we think of Jason Kelce. I
think my favorite. I love Big Dominance being like, hey
love you guys. I'm out like he wasn't trying to
make the bumble about him because that you know, that
man lives in the background, and that's where he likes
to be. It's where he's comfortable. I totally understand that.

(42:57):
I really enjoyed Jordan my lot to just like singing
we are the Champions, yeah and like that. That to
me was actually what I think I'm gonna remember the
most as far as uh just actual speeches and watching
it live, trying them, trying to blour out and apologize
every time somebody cussed, Like you should have known what
you were getting into. You should have put up somebody
worked in production. You should have put up a graphic

(43:19):
at the beginning of the live stream. Any language you
know is not constituted of the beliefs of this network.
YadA YadA, whatever you gotta say, and just let it ride.
Because the Eagles had to upload those speeches uncut onto
their YouTube channel because of how that all went down.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
I mean, I mean, you're you just had to understand
the guys who were up there. I mean, AJ Brown
and CJ. Gardner Johnson, They're going to curse like it.
That's it's just it's just what they do.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I think that the highlight of everything was for me
at least, was was Howie Roseman getting a beer canned
the head and him like that image of him smoking
that cigar with that huge like gash on his forehead
and he was like, I bleed, I bleed for Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Bleed for this city. Yeah that's yeah, that's definitely gonna
be up there too. I don't know that I was
expecting some big, grandiose speech from from one guy that
didn't come. Like I think that was just a unrealistic
expectation that Jason Kelsey said, because it's not normally how
it goes.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, I think I think that, Like after the Super Bowl,
I was like, all right, which player is going to
show up in the mummer? Yeah? Like I was just like,
Jason has got to give this thing to Cam Jurgens
and he's got to get up there and yeah, make
that speech of like nobody believed in us. Kaylen, you're

(44:51):
just a runner in DJ.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
You're a diva.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
I think I think that I think Dickerson tried to
do a little bit of that. Yeah, but like, I
don't know it. I just needed them. I needed the mummer.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
You know.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
My favorite f bomb on there, though, I think it
was Jurgen's is like he's he's like running by the
rail and the announcers trying to like put the mic
in his face and he's like, hell, yeah, go fucking
birds and he just took off, like, oh my god,
Like that was I love that. That was great. If
you had to give this Super Bowl a name, I
have two here and you can tell me which one

(45:29):
you like, or you can add a third. Would you
rather call this the Boots to Asses Bull or the
zero Blitz Bowl? Moving forward? What would you want to refer.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
To the belt?

Speaker 2 (45:38):
I thought it was belt to ask, belt to ask.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yeah, so the original term, it's a wrestling term, boots
to asses, But yes, you're right, they switched it to belt,
So we rather do that that one, okay.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
And then and then the image of C. J. Gardner
Jompson with the belt. Yeah, the smacking air at the parade. Yeah,
it's got that's that's what it's got to be. But
it'll never be that because it's.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
What I think, that's what like the fans will call it.
But then like when you got to mention it on
like first take, it could be the zero Blitz Bowl.
I could see that would be in the case for sure,
So luckily trying to not look forward too quickly, but like,
we don't have a lot of guys hitting free agency,
but there's a handful of like key guys. If you

(46:21):
could keep two, what two were you keeping.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Zach Bond?

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yep, I agree with that. That's also one for me.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Jack Bond and Milton Williams, but I don't think they're
going to keep both.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
I think Bond is way more important. I would love
to have Williams back. I think his success this year
is a little easier to duplicate with someone else. Not
saying it's easy, but it's easy er. So, like I said, definitely,
Bond is one for me. I'm trying to remember who
the other guys even are now before.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
I think it's like Sweat and Rogers and Levado, and I.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Would like to get Sweat back. He's been here a
little longer. I think he is only going to have
more confidence after the game he had in the Super Bowl.
But it's so great that like none of these tough
decisions are on the offense, Like the offense is just
gonna be the offense for the for the large part
next year.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
I think that the way it is like you have
to retain Bond, Yes, surely because of the season that.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
He had and he became the captain either to.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Bring back because I'm sick and tired of this team
not valuing their linebackers as much. And the fact of
the matter is, we don't know when na Kobe Dean
is going to come back or if he's going to
come back fully, so we need the team needs to
bring him back. And the thing that is kind of

(47:54):
worrying to me is the fact that they haven't.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
They didn't.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
They never gave him a content, They never gave him anything. Yeah,
like not a contract, not anything.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
It's just I don't realize what a leader he had
become in this short time because like when I watched
the micd up thing, like part of it is like, yeah,
the linebacker will call it the play, so you do
have to huddle around the linebacker, but like he was
the one talking in the huddle. It wasn't any of
the linemen branding Graham didn't play enough to like do
that consistently, so maybe normally it's him and Bond stepped

(48:25):
up after that. That could have been the case, but
I was pleasantly surprised to see that and mentioning Brandon Graham.
It seemed like a full gone conclusion, like, yeah, he's retiring,
this his last game, What a way to go out.
I've seen every even like the Philly talk shows, not
like the mainstream ones that don't know our team, you know,
really deep, like they're talking like that all went away,

(48:46):
Like they're talking like he's coming back now, and I
don't blame him if he does, but it is weird
how that talk just evaporated.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yeah, the big problem is though that we're probably gonna
if he came back. I mean, he's a free agent,
I think, and we give him twelve million, and I
just I just don't think that it's worth it.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I just the narrative changed on a dime, Like it
went from like oh, what a way for BG to
go out to like, well, you know BG's coming back now,
So it's like whoa, whoa did that? When did that change? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah, I think that it's much more important to I'd
rather have Sweat back than the Bond back than have
Graham back.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
But there's been these talks about like Darius Slay wants
to play one more year, he would rather be a Philly,
but he's already said I understand it doesn't happen that way.
The stories I've heard of him is like they basically
want to make him a player coach, Like, yes, we
are going to sign you and you're going to have
a uniform, but like you are here to coach the
DBS more kind of the way Bradbury did.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
I think. I think that I think that it wouldn't
make any sense to really trade Sleigh because I don't
think he has any real value his age, so it's
it's probably better off just letting him play out the
I think he has this year on his contract and
that's the final year he has. I think that's just

(50:11):
something that you need to do.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Mm hmm. Yeah. I think we'll do right by him.
And like I said, it'll come down to like he's
essentially going to be a player coach and that.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
And here's here's like my mentality moving forward, Like a
lot of Eagles fans are talking about dynasty this and
we're gonna win the next super Bowl the way I
last the last go around, I was fully in belief
that the Eagles were gonna win one or two more
super Bowls in like the next few years. This time,

(50:43):
I'm of the mindset of let's just stay relevant for
a few years, build, build it up.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Yeah, Like the narrative's got to be different because like,
love you, Doug, but his you know, this is a
new normal and nothing above the repeat and all that
stuff like it didn't work out, So I don't put
that pressure. The pressure is gonna be there. It's baked
into the sauce of next year anyway. But like you said,
it stay relevant and and you know, get hot at

(51:12):
the right times. You're now you're now that team.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
And not to like this smirch Jim Schwartz, but I
really do think that Vic Fangio and I hope that
I'm not jinxing myself here, but I think that Vic
Fangio was a better defensive coordinator than Jim Schwartz was.
I'm not gonna say that he's he was fraudulent, but
like I I I trust him a little bit more

(51:35):
with a lot because a lot of the defensive players
that we had this year like came out of completely nothing,
Like Orrin Burks was starting in this Super Bowl, and
he looked like he was pretty good. Yeah, So, you know,
outside of the fact that in a few close games,
Vic Fangio kind of like like you know, choked on

(51:58):
his spit a little bit, like with the fact that
we allowed a few touchdowns in the last few seconds
of games like the Washington game and the and the
Buccaneers game. But outside of that, like he really does
deserve a lot of credit for the Super Bowl, and
you know, I would would it be great if they

(52:19):
won the Super Bowl next year? Of course that would
be great. Like the goal is to win every year.
But like if they go eleven and six and win
a playoff game, I don't think that that's gonna be
like the worst thing in the world.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
I Mean, there's people that are gonna freak out, But yeah,
I'm not breaking my TV over that. Like you really
got to look at it, you know, from a positive respective.
To bring up Vic again though, like he is one
of those guys nowadays that like he's long career defensive
coordinator and he got his opportunity as head coach, had

(52:56):
some good spots, but overall, you know, not not great.
So he's at the point where's like, now, you know what,
I'm a damn good defensive coordinator and I have the
perfect defense to coach. So this like I could see
him ending his career in Philly in like three to
four years. And that's that's incredible stability on that side
of the ball.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
And the funny thing is we were all worried about
Kellen Moore. Is his head going to be in the
game because we had PTSD about last time. Jonathan gannon
Dorf this is his new name, Jonathan Gannendorf decided, you know,
I'm just gonna break the rules and interview with the
Cardinals before the Super Bowl is over, and I'm just
gonna stay here no matter what. You know, I'm glad

(53:37):
that Kellen Moore did it right. And you know, with
the parody around the league, he's going to take coaches
from Philadelphia and you know, that's just how things work.
Like again, like, I don't expect you to succeed at all,
but hey, that's that's your issue. Like you're that you knew.
Like the Saints, I think that they're they're going to

(53:57):
be more of a project than you think that they are.
I could be wrong, but you know that's just how
like the reason why the Patriots and the Chiefs had
been able to stay together and and and be so
good for so long was because there was there was
very little change in the coaching staffs. Literally every time

(54:19):
the Eagles go to the Super Bowl, we lose our.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I mean that's any team that wins the Super Bowl
or even goes to them, they get picked here and there.
It's gonna happen almost always.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Yeah, sometimes it but again with like the Patriots, they
were winning multiple super Bowls with with Charlie Weiss and uh,
who is the who is the I forget? I always
forget who the defensive coordinator's name was. Patricia No, not
Patricia Uh, the African American guy in like the early

(54:58):
he coached the Browns and he coached that he was
like an interim coach for the Chiefs and the Texans
or something like that.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
I don't know. I kind of blocked that air.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
But like they weren't poached until their last the third
Super Bowl against the Eagles. But you know, it's something
that's that I expect to happen to the Eagles every.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Time, and you mentioned the you know, Colan were doing
it the right way when we were talking about it
leading up to it, because it was like, oh, it's happening,
and then the talks kind of cooled off and like, no,
it's it's happening. Theyn announced it today and then it
cools off. I legitimately think even more so now that
that was like, yeah, like we're probably getting this done,

(55:40):
but I got a fucking game to worry about. And
I truly think that's why it took so long to
get the deal done. And like you said, that's.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
The make a deal until the Super bowls over.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Right, But like even the story of like expected to
sign that those talks would happen and then they'd cool
off again.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Well yeah, because they because he wants to get rid
of Derek Carr point of contention with their like general
manager and ownership or something like that.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
But before we do our real closing thoughts, I didn't
want to say this to the very end because it's
not a fun topic, but I feel like it needs
to be discussed. Out of all the positives that have
come out of this nine days, the biggest negative I
think I've seen is like the treatment of Jason Kelcey lately,
frankly has been gross to me, and I just want
to make that our opinions made on that. I don't

(56:34):
think I had zero issue. If I could have negative
issue with something that somebody said, it's what how I
feel about Jason like, and it's I don't think people
are giving it like the like he's mad that we
beat his brother. No he's not. He's mad or upset
in him within himself that his brother take us out
of it. That his brother basically like ship the bed

(56:56):
in a super Bowl that in their brains he could
have had. I think if if this game comes down
to the wire and Travis Kelcey has a typical Travis
Kelcey game and they lose to us by eight, I
don't think Jason feels the way he feels right now.
So I totally have no issue. I don't have a brother,
I have a sister, but like that bond that they
have to reach the highest level together, and you know,

(57:21):
now that he's done, he focuses even more on what
his brother's doing. They have the podcast and all that.
I have no issue with it. He was at the parade,
people are like, Oh, he's just hanging out. He wasn't
trying to make it a lot.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
He's not wearing an Eagle shirt.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
I just know he wasn't trying to He wasn't trying
to make it about him. He was just trying to
be there for the people that he cared about. So
I just want to put out any negative you know,
it's it's like that that movie Holes. That's the amount
of slander from Jason Kelcey. I will take zero because
it's just not warranted and it's gross and cut it out.
So I just want to throw that out there. You

(57:56):
can get if you have any thoughts.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Yeah, I mean I didn't know that Jason Kelcey was
even playing in the Super Bowl, so you know, this
wasn't his game. That's what people need to understand. He's
not on the team. He's not a part of the organization.
He's essentially a member of the media. He's on ESPN,
he's on his podcast, Jason kelce Look. Jason Kelcey has

(58:23):
known Travis Kelcey for like thirty six years. Okay, these
two went to college together. If not for Jason Kelcey,
Travis Kelcey would not be in this league. So like,
obviously they have a bond that's very strong. Their bond
is stronger than the sibling bond that I have with mine,

(58:46):
And you know, he's allowed to feel however he wants
to feel. Do I think he was he wasn't rooting
for the Eagles. No, I do think he was rooting
for the Eagles no matter what kind of shirt he
was wearing. I wasn't even personally, I wasn't even wearing
an Eagle shirt while watching the Super Bowl. I didn't

(59:07):
wear an Eagle shirt all season, right, Yeah, And that
doesn't have anything to do with who I was rooting for.
I just think that people are just, you know, people
just need to touch grass. It's just one of those
situations where like, our team just won the Super Bowl

(59:31):
and the thing that you're focusing on is Jason Kelcey,
a guy who didn't play in the Super Bowl. You're
worried about what is he going to post after we
won the Super Bowl? Like, what's his announcement going to be?

(59:51):
It doesn't matter what his announcement is. If he wants
to announce it, great, If he doesn't want to announce it,
that's great too.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Yeah. The one thing that bothered me to any level
was like, I guess their podcast page posted like a
congratulations to the Eagles, and Jason had them take it
down because like the fan base that they've garnered through.
Travis was upset, so he didn't, like he didn't walk
it back, but he's like, I don't want to deal
with that right now, so just just pull it down.

(01:00:20):
So that was a little like soft skin for the
people that like made that happen. But other than that,
dude like Jason Kelsey is an Eagles legend. He always
will be. And the fact that in a nine day
stretch he went from here to like you can't even
see him on the screen in some people's eyes, you know,
are they gonna if seven years from now, AJ Brown

(01:00:44):
plays somewhere else and we win a Super Bowl without
him and he's not doing backflips for us, Like, yeah,
does that change what he did nine days ago? No,
it doesn't. It's ridiculous, So don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
And to add to add this a completely off topic,
like I had never interact, like I had never interacted
with an online swifty in my life, and I wish
I had never seen an online swifty.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Yeah, I can't get away from him this way. I
don't like I I feel and this is like the
most I've ever pat myself on the back about anything.
I feel like I use social media the way it
was intended to be used. I keep in touch with friends,
I follow the ship that I want to follow, and
that's it. I don't get in Twitter arguments with strangers,
but they're just I can't help but see them right now.

(01:01:33):
I can't. I go out of my way to like,
you know, the the people that's saying like, there's some
super Bowls that are meaningless and the one that Jalen
Hurst just won is one of them. It's like, screw you,
we just want to saw that one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Yeah, oh yeah. The guy who was like I've he's like, uh,
ever since Jalen Hurts won SUP, the super Bowl and
super Bowl MVP, those things are just completely meaningless now.
And it's like, okay, pal, Like I want you to
go into a room of whatever fans or fan base
of team that you and I want you to just

(01:02:07):
say out loud, I hope we lose. I hope we
don't make number one. We don't make the super Bowl
and if we do, I hope we lose, because that's
more important than winning it right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
And so the amount of stupidity that I see from
people now that I don't like. I don't follow these people.
They just they just show up there. We're just there
and it's pretty and it's crazy to me, and then
I just go back to interacting with the people that
I want to interact with.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Most of it is just bait, though most of it
is like most of it is just like I don't
get enough attention to let me say something insanely not
so smart and see what kind of reaction I get
out of people. And when it's when it's Philly fans,
like Philly fans are one of those fan bases where
it's like a moth to a flame, or it's like
it's like it's like a it's like a sandwich to

(01:02:56):
like hornet's nest, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
I mean, I look at it. Eagles fans have terrible reputations.
I get that. My take on that has always been
every fan base has terrible human beings in it, and
we may just have a slightly bigger population of that
than others. And they're the louder bunch right, they're the
water circling the drain at the end, they're louder than
the rest of the water going down. So I don't did.

(01:03:20):
I saw when there was videos of Nolan Smith at
the parade, you know, like really really drunk at the end.
I literally saw comments like you can't be drunk in
public right now? Why isn't anyone arrested that guy? Like
he's in a parade?

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
He is? He is like, yeah, yeah, I'm just like
I was from.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
The guy that was that was from a commander's fan.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Right name?

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Sure, yeah, maybe named Billy Billy Tink, Billy Billy Tickle
or Billy Tinkle. And I was like, sorry, man, like
I'm with that name. I don't think you're allowed within
like two thousand feet of the school.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Yeah, I don't know. I just when my team is over,
you know, yeah, there you go. You know when we
lost the Super Bowl two years ago, man, I was
I was upset that we lost. I didn't try to
diminish the team that won, like I really I really didn't.
I didn't. Yeah, you know, it's just the way people
handle things is crazy. But have any closing thoughts before

(01:04:16):
we get out of here. I don't want to end
on that on that sour note.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
So I think that, you know, this is a game,
you know, this was a game that I'm gonna remember,
you know. Like I said, I I think that the
first one carries more weight for me because of how
I felt afterwards. Sure, after this one, you know, I

(01:04:40):
was just like I was just relieved that it was
that it was over ten minutes before the game was
actually over. But I just want to reiterate the fact that,
and I think we talked about it in the last
one in the In the the twenty eighteen NFL draft
for the Philadelphia Eagles, the Eagles selected five players, okay,

(01:05:04):
four of those players who were selected in that draft
the draft after they won the Super Bowl, and you know,
for the first game of the season had to wear the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Pass the patch, which I feel like they didn't continue
to do. I don't think every team does that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
I think we just the Eagles just did that the
first game of the season because.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
I like the idea of it. But it seemed to like,
I hope you do it again, So go on, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Dallas Goddard, Avante Maddox, Well, that's so cool. The thumbs
up just appear off, Dallas Goddard, I just did it again.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
No, it's just me, just you, all right, Sorry, go on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Dallas Goddard, Avonte Maddox, Josh Sweat, and Jordan my Lot.
I forget who the other guy was.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
It didn't make it, Yeah, it didn't make it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Didn't didn't make the didn't make the team. But like
it is kind of interesting how you know, they didn't
get to experience the first one, but they definitely got
to experience the second one, and they got they all
got to go to the super Bowl twice and they
all had a role, yeah in the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
And to piggyback off that, I'll end with giving the
shout out to Brandon Graham, Lane Johnson, Jake Elliott, and
Levado as the four Eagles to be on both Super
Bowl teams. And that second ring is gonna look pretty
awesome on those guys' hands. I'll end it here too
with this. So, like the Monday after the Super Bowl,
I had to go to work. There was like there

(01:06:37):
was no way I could take off, and all week
I basically had to be there. There was not a
way to get out of anything. So Monday I wore
the Eagles jersey because no one was gonna tell me otherwise.
And then I wore my Eagles polo later in the
week and one of my coworkers who have become pretty
good friends with was like, I like, it's awesome that
happened and everything, like football's over. Now, what are you
gonna do that turn. I looked at him, I said, well,

(01:06:59):
spring training starts on Saturday, right, yeah, so go Phils.
You should have.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Said something along the lines of ill do what I want.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
But no, that's That's where I'm heading next. You know,
you get to watch some spring training. Baseball is really
busy for me. I'm not to knock on what a
little bit, but like I might be working for three
teams simultaneously this baseball season. It would be pretty busy
if that all works out. So we'll see how that goes.
But uh, we to appreciate you guys for tuning into
the sober edition of the Super Bowl fifty nine recap.

(01:07:31):
Sorry about the internet issues in the first half. I'm
glad to kind of evened out here in the end.
Tune in in the next week or so. We might
we pushed the time one back a little bit next
week or so Hank and I will be reviewing the
longest Yard to finish off our Adam Sandler trifecta, and
then we might do some other ones here in the summer,
and then we'll get Nick back on here too. We'll
probably do another one of the three of us just

(01:07:53):
talking whatever's going on at the time. But until then, Hank,
thanks again, appreciate it. Look forward to you adding the
fifth nine to your YouTube name so you can be
PR fIF fifty nine. Looking forward to that and thanks everyone.
Go Birds, super Bowl champs and we'll see you next time.
Take care,