1035 - Pop and Bravo with Ben and Ronnie of Watch What Crappens - Pink Shade

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Thursday, and that
means it's pop and Bravo and listen, there's no two
people in the world that I would rather discuss Bravo
with that. Ben and Ronnie have watch what Crappens?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Nice?

Speaker 4 (00:28):
How are you so?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Ben? You tell me this is a green screen background.

Speaker 5 (00:34):
No, it's not green screen. This is the office I'm saying.
I changed the lighting to be pink because this is
Pink Shade, so I tried to make it as pink
as possible, although I still have some some blue highlights because.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
But your office looks like you're gonna host like a
like a like a six person talk show back there,
like what's going on?

Speaker 5 (00:54):
Maybe I will well, you know what I Over the
past six months, I converted this into not just a
podcast space, but a video space, because everyone's like video
is a new thing. So I made it so that
like theoretically, like I do some other like I have
a board game thing on the side, and I've got
a cooking thing on the side. I started to use
this set up for and then when Ronnie was was

(01:16):
was off, I had some guests in here. We did
some fun video in here. So it's just kind of
like a you know, just trying to embrace the YouTube revolution.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Mary Pain. That's all. That's all I'm trying to do,
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
And then Ronnie, of course you're in your new beautiful home.
They're in La.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
I'm here in La La.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Loved your post that you did of your gallery wall.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Looks great, Oh, thank you. Lots of lots of nails
in that wall.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I did a gallery wall wall at my house at
the beach, and I laid it out like perfectly on
the floor, and then the handyman guy comes in and
I go, this is what I'm thinking of doing. He
was like, oh, you could do it that way or
and he rearranged it all this is like the handyman
and it looked perfect the way he did it. I
was like, well, why you're here, get to hang in

(02:03):
Oh that's good.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, I just go to get someone to help me
hang it because I was like, I can't possibly do this,
you know. But then everybody who was talking to is like, Okay,
well you need to get all the pictures, you need
to put them in a photoshop, you need to measure everything,
and then you need to plan it and by the
time I started doing that, I was like, screw this,
this is going to take longer than just getting out
a hammer in the nail. So yeah, I just I

(02:25):
just winged it and it's you know, it's not perfect,
but you know what, it was free.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
So I think it looks great.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
I think it is a great job at this place.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Guys, So listen, all right, we got to talk about
a little bit of pop culture before we dig into
our programs. And I know you guys sometimes have covered
like Mormon wives and you kind of have you did
Bachelor before, So how do you feel about these worlds
colliding with Taylor Frankie Paul being the bachelorette.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Oh my gosh, what a messy, messy bachelorette that is.
Who's going to fight for someone who's still fighting with
their ex all the time, and that's all that stuff.
But I like Taylor Frankie Paul so and you know,
the Bachelor is always messy. I don't think anybody's really
worth fighting for on the Bachelor's I think she'll fit
in right in on that way.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
I mean, yeah, I don't watch The Bachelor, so I'm
just I'm happy for the Bachelor people who do watch it,
because I'm sure that's like very fun, but for me,
it doesn't really you know, I'm I'm proudly not part
of bachelor istion.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
I have to say, well, me either.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
But like, I really think the last time I watched
it was when Nick Vile was on, and I don't
know if that was one hundred years ago or three,
I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
The one season I watched was that season that weird,
that one?

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Why why did we watch it? Just that one because
he was kind of cute.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Did a podcast.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I did a Bachelor podcast back in the day, So
I watched a bunch of seasons at the Bachelor and
his was one of them, and then I just, you know.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
I had to just stop.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
During COVID, they did a or during the pandemic, I
guess I should say, since COVID isn't eradicated, but during
the pandemic they did a like a ten week retrospective
where they showed a season in a night and it
was like three hours. They would trunk eighty seasons. So
I watched ten seasons or whatever it was during that
and I thought, oh my god, this is just they're

(04:21):
lying to me, you know, like once you see all
the format shoved right in your face like that, I
was like, I will not be tricked anymore. I'm going
back to watching something completely natural and not made up
Real Housewives.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
That's right, that's right. Well, I'm excited about the Taylor
Frankie Paul because I also think because she's such like,
you know, single mom, you knows, been arrested a few times,
like whatever, I think she sort of is more representative
of what you might get out there when you're dating.
You might get a single mom of three kids and messy,

(04:55):
and I think that might be good for the world. Hey, Brette, amazing.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
I guess yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
I I remember when The Bachelor and The Bachelorette subsequently
started and it was like, look at It's like, here
is someone that you never thought you'd even have a
shot at. Here is a very aspirational person, and school
they said, you know what, or here's someone you could find,
uh that John Bajuice, and they're like, try, let's try this.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Aspiration is dead okay at this point, it's just like
they're breathing. Okay, they're breathing and they comb their hair,
so let's just go for it.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
She dances on TikTok. So.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Uh, she has a job.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
That's all you're going to get like her, So I'm
interested to see what it's like.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, I think she's beautiful. I think she's beautiful. I
like her nose, really like it.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I like that to watch she makes like beyond like
what she actually looks like. I just like that she's
always making this face. She is always like she's just
like she just booped her pants.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
You have to watch Whitney and j Fleck on Dancing
with the Stars.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I watched the first episode. I haven't watched it. I
haven't watched it further. I will. I don't know who
got eliminated if you want to tell me, it's fine.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
I don't know who it did either.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
I fear that it's probably going to be sweet Andy
richteror but who knows, who knows.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I saw of Dylan Efron dancing Holy murmur. He was
he was rehearsing with his partner, who it's rumored to
be that he's dating or whatever. I don't know if
that's true, but he was like doing his like hip
swinging dance shirtless, and I was like, hot, damn boy.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
He's gorgeous. But he can't. He cannot dance.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I feel like he horso dancing. He was doing like
his hips are going like that, and I was like, yes, Dylan, Yes, I.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Think his hips move really well and his torso he's
able to do the body roll. I just think that
his arm movements are like a little languid, like they do.
They need to be like a little snappier, right, Like
he's sort of like a little stiff, and he's like
stiff in certain areas and non stiff in other areas.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
You know.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
I went and saw Dance from the Stars in person once.
That was almost twenty years ago. It was the season
with Mario Lopez and Emmett Smith and all them, and
I went and I had to stand in line, and
my agent at the time got me tickets, so they
were like good tickets. So I got to stand on
like the VPP line, and Monique Coleman from High School
Musical was a contestant, and I was standing in line,

(07:18):
and like I knew of High School Musical, but it
hadn't quite gotten to the saturation point where like you
knew everything of it. He just knew it was a
thing that was happening. And I was standing in line
directly behind Zach Effron and his like manager. I had
no idea who he was. I was like, who is
this whiny twink? Because he was complaining about every single
thing under the sun. He was like, it's hot. How

(07:38):
long do we have to wait here? I don't want
to do this, and he was like he was just
like this pimple faced guy with bangs. And I was like,
who is this this little twerp? And he was so
gosh darn annoying. And I never would have ever thought
that he'd become a huge movie star. And I guess,
you know, I guess you know, he has me to

(07:58):
think because if it weren't for my ang glares at him,
that may not have scared him into the discipline that
he needed later on to become a mega star.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
So you're welcome, Zac Efron.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I bet you're a foot I bet you're a foot
taller than him, Ben, because you're pretty tall. I bet
you're like way taller than him. Maybe he was scared,
and he was he was.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
I mean, he was.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
He had to have been like fifteen years old or
something like that. But that's that's what I always think about.
So it's sort of funny to see now full circle
twenty years later that his brother is on the show
kicking ass and being really hot.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah. Well, he opened the show last week and with
the milkshake brings all the boys to the yard, and
he looked great, but I didn't think he could dance
very well. But Ben with your breakdown of how he's
needs more arm movement, and I was like, maybe you
should replace Bruno on Dancing with the Stars. You seem
to have a lot of dance knowledge.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
I'll go on in a flashy outfit and be like
that was amazed. And you know, Bruno always stands up
there andything like glides his hands up his ribcage and
he's like.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Just beautiful.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
It was so sexy, brutal. Next time, just give me
a little more sensuality and put your crotch on my feet.
But otherwise, but anyway, the point is that Whitney. Whitney
did a great job.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
It's so good.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
I think she got an accidentally high score because it
seemed like Bruno gave her an eight instead of a seven.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
But she did a great job.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
And Jen was fine too, But Whitney was really great,
and she looks fantastic.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Her body is banging, banging. Yeah, yeah, well, so are
you guys going to cover Mormon Wise when it comes back,
because I think you guys talked about it before.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
We did the first season, and then the second season
we didn't do because Bravo was so busy and that
Bravo has been you know, kind of dead, But then
a lot of stuff is going to be on when
that's on, so I don't know, I don't know if
we're going to have time for that, but that shows intense.
I watched all the second season recently. Yeah, there's so
mean to each other, and they do it with such
fake smiles on their faces. It's hard to even follow,

(09:50):
like who's nice and who's not? You know, there's so
mean to each other in such a nice way. It's like, yeah, well,
you know, I've really appreciated being her friend, but unfortunately
she's a stupid slide and everything about her res bake
and I hope she dies.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
So mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, it's a lot like the other shows we watch.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, the other ones, they yell and scream at each other.
You kind of know who the victims are on those ones,
but on this one, they're just so nice to each other,
even when they hate each other's guts.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
You know, I actually loved the first season, and I
haven't really had a chance to watch the second season yet.
I watched like two episodes, and the issue was that
it launched right when I went out of town for
like my own little Baker, and then when I got back,
Love Island started, and Love Island was just so all
consuming that it just I got behind on Mormon Wives,

(10:40):
and then Mormon Wives had so many episodes, so it's
just one of those things where sometimes the episodes pile
up and then it becomes a chore to think they
have to have to sit down and watch them all.
But I actually really love the show, so I do
need to just have like a binge session where I
just dive into it because I don't want to get
too far behind, especially with season three coming up.

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(12:21):
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what do you do? And then you say you're a podcaster,
and then that gets a lot of questions, what is that?
What's about? You know? You still and you know, oh,
what do you talk about reality TV? Do you watch
Love Island? Every person? You gotta cover Love Island? I go,
how many hours in a day? Do you think I

(12:41):
have to cover all the ninety D franchises, all of
Bravo Love Island? You would have to start a podcast
only for Love Island. But you guys did it in
addition to all your other stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, well, we didn't do as every episode, so yeah,
we didn't do like the full on recaps. I mean
we still did though we were still doing like an
hour We've done't think like an hour three times a
week something like that.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
It Originally it was supposed to be just like like
twenty five to thirty minutes an episode. And what we
did was we said, like, we're not going to take
any notes. We're just going to talk about the things
that we remember from the episode. Okay, But inevitably I
just wound up taking a long time because we just
had more and more things in our mind.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
And I don't worry. It was I take I can't
I remember nothing, So yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Have to take notes too. Well, anytime anybody said love Alan,
I go, look, I can't. I don't have the hours.
I can't watch it. I don't understand these young people.
But if you want to listen to a recap by note,
but then Ronnie, you're doing it, I'll watch bok crap
and so go over there. Yeah it's the only you're
the only crazy people to do it. Now, speaking of
like the schedules were kind of lagging there with Bravo,

(13:51):
but now we're back into We got OC Miami, we
got Salt Lake City, and then it was like a
week and a half, We've got Potmac.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, yeah, I can't.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
So what's rolling off? Which show is rolling off? Is
it OC is rolling off?

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Miami?

Speaker 5 (14:06):
Miami is the next one to wrap up? They're seeing
finalees tonight.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, Finales tonight, and then three weeks of reunion. So
I mean it's still it'll take a while to roll
off and then OC's out. But I think, yeah, they'll
start rolling everything back for the fall.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Why do we need three reunions for Miami? I don't
I don't see that as being necessary.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
I did you watch this season?

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Because guess what it's this is a I mean Miami
is always always going to require three episodes because they
talk over each other so much, and like if they
have if Andy asked one question, it's gonna take twenty
minutes to get through it, just because they're all going
to chime in and then they all enter a new
evidence about something and then they get a tangent and
then someone has to go to the bathroom. So like

(14:50):
you know, it's gonna be four questions total and we
three three episodes.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Somebody has to go to the bathroom. Okay, So let's
let's talk about Roal Housewives and Miami broke quick. So
I have watched it. I have watched all of it.
I have a question. Now I've heard you guys mention
this on your show. What is going on with Jody's
mouth is his upper lip.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Parallegic, doesn't move, his face doesn't move. He he just is.
I don't know if he just botoks his whole face
to the point where it doesn't move, but he just
does just his eyes kind of like you see his
eyes like kind of towards the door occasionally. But that's
the only thing that really moves on this entire face.
Botox or if it's something medical. I hope it's not

(15:31):
something medical because we make fun of it every week.
But I think it's botoxical. I think it's botox. I
think he probably botoxes a lot. I almost wondered did
he have some sort of like jaw surgery.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Like I like it.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
Literally, he seems pained to really open his mouth more
than like a few millimeters, like he can get the
words out, but he's really very like he's very very stiff,
and I just don't remember him always being like that.
I felt like he was a little bit that. I
don't know, but it's very strange.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
It's like he has lockjob. But so, we have a
character in the ninety Day Universe it's Chantale. There's a
whole show it's been off with her called the family chantale,
and she's very but she also talked like like words
are coming out, So it's not like Thurston out the
Third where it's like it's the same idea. It's words
are coming out, but the lips are not moving, and

(16:26):
I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
I don't have probably the toxi talks.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
It could be, but I've got botox in my mouth
moves just fine.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Well that's such a thing as too much. You know,
it's a job. Jaw is not how and I'm horrified.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
So I'm going to go in and just haven't put
as much as they can next time I see him,
so maybe I'll be in the same boat soon, you know.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
No, it's the upper lip. So I was trying to
really it because you guys have talked about it a lot.
I knew I was going to talk to you. So
I was watching it last night. I was catching up
from last week, and I noticed when he talked the
whole from here up does it move? So but the
bottom moves anyway. We're not going to figure it out,
but I just want to let you know that I
see you, and I feel you.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
It's upsetting you.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
We'll keep tabs on the situation and we'll try to
get to the bottom of it. But yeah, I don't
know how botox like affects the ability for a jaw
to like move up and down. So I really there's
something that is going on.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Something's happening. So maybe it's the air conditioning that he
spoke so highly of earlier in the season. Okay, first
of all, my favorite person on Miami is Marisol. Now
I've heard other people they don't love Marisol. I love her.
I love her, I.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
Love Let's tell us what's what's what are you drawn
to with Marisol?

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Her style, uh huh, her humor. I like how she
talks a lot with her hands. I think I love
how she gives everybody a nickname, right know, Peanut, mighty mouse, ye,
pips monkey.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
What do you think she would call you?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Oh God, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
I think she call you m pain.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
I'm like pain and people.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Well, but like I mean, her nicknames are are pretty
much like whatever is easiest, easiest to come out of
her mouth. So she has peeks, pips hes, pips monkey
is a little bit more like that's more.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Or something like hey, Shane, shame everybody.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I just love her and I loved it. This week
she's sitting in a full head to toe Gucci outfit
and tell Stephanie she talks too much about money.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
She says, I don't do tacky. I'm like, have you
seen yourself, ma'am, you are doing taky right now, right now, loudly.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
I loved it.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Nothing but TACKI nothing but tacky. I think Marisol has
come up. She's much better than she used to be.
In my mind, I think she's especially in the first
the first run of the series, I thought Marissol was
just like a wet blanket. It's a real dull person,
Like I didn't know why she was on the show,
and then when she then when she came back, it
seemed like she was trying really hard to get this
old cocky's thing going. But I think she sort of

(19:22):
like settled into kind of a groove a little bit.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Like she's had like moments where I've actually really enjoyed
her this season.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, why people don't just like flock to her like
a like a Lisa Barlow character, I don't know, like
just find her delightful.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
She tries.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
I feel like she tries a little hard, and there's
like a sense that she does kind of ride Alexia's coattails.
I mean, she's like a loyal sidekick, but she's not
like she I think that like on her own she
maybe isn't as compelling.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
I'm not sure. I'm not sure, but like.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
She's to me like I would say, have the friend
ofs on Miami, Like Kiki is my favorite, Like yeah,
pretty much, you know. I mean, Adriana does a really
good jobs as a side as a as a side character,
but Kiki is just I don't know, I just I
just deeply enjoy Kiki at all times.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
The fight between Kiki and Adriana is wild because, first
of all, the math on that cake thirty two times two.
I was like, I got that sixty four, but then
minus five.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
I was like, one that, like a subtraction is hard.
Subtraction is hard to process.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Subtract when you get past like ten, subtraction is hard
for me. And I was like, why was that funny?
I didn't get it? And listen. But I also think
Adriana loves to make a big deal about nothing. But
I think Adriana in that episode where she got the
cake and everything, she seemed so pilled out. They were
showing her the cake through. I mean, she's like, what birthday?

(20:57):
I was like, is Adriana okay? Should we check on her? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
She she like depressed because I'm getting older.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
You know, that's her thing. She's depressed.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
But also we heard that they had the Bravoa fan
fest thing right before that cruise, so I wonder if
something happened at that or she seemed like really upset
that whole time.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
And yeah, I don't know if it was.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Just about her birthday, but as far as the cake stuff,
I thought it was shady too. I believed Kiki's story
when she said no she said her perfect age was
thirty four, so or I thought it was thirty two,
but it was thirty four, but right she said the
age I would have stayed at forever was thirty four.
So she thought, okay, well I'll put her ideal age
thirty four plus it was thirty two, but thirty two

(21:39):
plus thirty two, I mean, I got it. I thought
it was fine. But either way, even if it was
being shady, who cares like it's not shady enough to
be acting like that. It's your age, Like you can't
get mad at people for calling you the age you are.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
That's what she should have been like forever thirty four
on the cake and been like that's it, like forever thirty.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Four like that.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, yeah, but still to get that pissed off. Someone
actually called you your age that you were fifty nine.
You're gonna survive this, Okay, you're gonna survive, and you're
also stunningly gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Right rich.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
I feel like Adriana was doing the thing like on
a slumber party, like when there's like one person who's
like not getting attention, much like Whitney Season one of.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Mormon Wives, they.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Sort of they sort of go to the corner and
they're like, what's wrong?

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Nothing? Oh, but what's wrong? We're having so much fun? Nothing.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
I think she was trying to pull that and just
no one cared enough to try to be like.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Come on, Adriana, we want to be part of the party.
Have fun. Adriana. She was like looking for that.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
In addition to what Ronnie was, the person who knows
on Facebook is like it's been a horrible day and
then you know that's all about Well.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
That was interesting. Yeah, well yeah something like that. Well
that was depressing in the It's like, but what is idio.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Okay, I can't tell you why. But I can't tell
you why. But I need prayers. I can't tell you why.
I just I need your prayers. Pray for me, pray
for my prayers for my fan. Does something happen, Well,
I can't tell you, yea, I just well, you don't
get my prayers. So I will say about Stephanie though
she I think she's a good addition. I do think

(23:17):
the only thing we know about her personality is how
she talks about money. So I do think Marzel's right
in that, and that she doesn't speak to her sisters
because she married a guy that was friends with her dad,
So that's all we really know about her. It seems
like a lot of that also is not true that
maybe that house that she showed is like in foreclosure,
but I mean we would have it no other way
with their housewives, right.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
So yeah, yeah, I think that they got behind on payments,
but they paid up. I think from okay, last time
I googled it. Okay, like a fucking crazy person. But yeah,
I mean she seems she seems like a brat and
kind of a horrible human being, but I think she's
great on the show. She has a great foil on
the show.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Two things can be true, terrible person.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
I don't need you to be a good person to
be on Housewise, one of my favorite housewives is Lisa Barlowe.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
All right, now, when we talked about Spend the Night
party has been it's almost like you were at spend
the Night party with me, like in sixth grade. You know, like,
come on, girls, everybody party?

Speaker 5 (24:15):
Is that what they call it in the South, to
spend the night party instead of like a sleepover?

Speaker 1 (24:19):
What did you know you called it? No, we say
I spend the night party.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Spend the night sounds much more sophisticated than a sleepover.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Does it. It's like I'm gonna go, I'm going over
to Barry's house for I Spend the night party. So okay,
let's talk about OC really quick. You talked about us
spend the night party, So listen. I've watched all the episodes, guys,
I don't quite understand why they had these two situations going.
And we went back into it this week. I was like,
I forgot last week. I kept thinking they're going to

(24:47):
come together in the Temecula house or something, but no,
it's two events we've got Gretchen and Emily, Heather going
to the abbey and then go into Beverly Hills for
a sleepover like that was like a vacation.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Been the night party.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
It's been the night party. Sorry, forty five minutes away.
And then we've got the other girls into Mecula, Tamashan
and Gin and Gina. How far is to Mecula from
La no Oc? How far is Temecula from the Oc?

Speaker 4 (25:16):
I think it's I don't know.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
I think it's about forty five minutes, but it could
be an hour, could be an hour twenty.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
It's sort of like.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
South and east, so it's definitely it takes like ninety
minutes at least, I think to get some.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Hours sixteen minutes away according to according to the maps.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
It's same for oc Oc to Beverly Hills is probably
about the same.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Oh spending on trake, Yeah, I can't take an hour?
Can take two hours?

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Yeah yeah, So it could take forty five minutes or
two hours or two and a half hours.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
So that's they're gonna they're going to get another trip, right,
This wasn't it. They didn't have to go to Mecula
and Beverly Hills.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Were their cast.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
They're going to They're going to Amsterdam. There they'll be
doing don't you forget They're going to Amsterdam. Yeah, it
is weird that they split the cast up and did this.
I personally, I wonder if there was something to it,
like they got rid of Katie, and you know, anytime
we lose the cast member mid season, it's tough. And
I almost was like maybe the producers were like, let me,

(26:17):
let us like split up the women so that way
they can talk shit about each other and then come
together and create a new.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Feud because they need to kind of like what they did.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
Yeah, which because they need to kind of like regroup
because once Katie's gone, it's like all their all their
driving stories for the season kind of evaporate the moment
that Katie has gone. So now all of a sudden,
we have you know, uh, tam Like Shannon and Tamra
are fighting again about last season, and now we have
something with like Gretchen and this recording it's and the

(26:48):
rumor that Gretchen is starting. So I kind of think
that they wanted They were like, well, if they keep
on just doing stuff together, nothing's need to get off
the ground, but like when they talk shit about each
other separately, that seems to be pretty effective. They actually
they did that last season as well. Some of them
went up to Big Bear and some of the Palm Springs.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Also the most important part of this trick is that
they put Gina in one place and Emily and another
because those two will do whatever the producers tell them,
and they are constantly just starting whatever shit the producers want,
so they split them up. Gina does her whole gas lighting, Oh,
I'm so worried about you because like anything, like you're
spending a lot of time alone, like your problem with alcohol,

(27:27):
but I'm just worried. And then she's gas lighting Shannon
and making her crazy. And then you've got Emily pushing
Gretchen to get drunk, which is a thing on this show,
like let's get Gretchen drunk and make her do stuff.
And so that's so they're doing that over there and
starting up the storyline there. So yeah, you know, they
have their two producers plants separate to get the season reignited.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Race to the end, But which trip would you like
to be on? Would you like to be in Tubecular
or would you like to be at this.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I don't want to go to have I don't want
to be around Heather. I don't want to go have
Heather buying me dinner and talking her bullshit to me.
No Tomecula. I take Temecula. You can go in a pool,
you can ignore people, you know, you can walk away.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
I was.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Being I would do the Beverly Hills.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
I mean, look, the Tamecula trip was really was was
actually like pretty okay, Like they had a nice house,
they went wine tasting, like their activities were actually pretty strong.
I like that Beverly Hills is closer. I guess if
we take out proximity, I still choose Beverly Hills. I
don't know, I'm I think I would like I'm more
curious about stepping into Heather's crazy world than I am

(28:40):
going to an Airbnb with Tamera and Gina.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
I just liked the chef that was going to make
you whatever you wanted for breakfast.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
And then resented it and then.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
It was and then like judge.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
You.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Orders, did you imagine spending that much money on a
private chef to basically make you bacon and like two
eggs total?

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Like yeah, I'm sorry. Three eggs.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
It's like an omelet. It was five eggs, probably a
two egg omelet, one egg over hard.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
And another egg. I forget how it was scram scrambled.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Well, don't forget the egg that Emily needs to take
home in her purse to stay wacky.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
But they also got chair massages and that looked nice.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
I know that did look really nice. I tried.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
I went to my gym last night, was doing like
a promotional thing where they were like doing a free
recovery situation, and I tried those like leg sleeves that
they put on and they compress, and I tell you.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
It was heavenly and lymphatic drainage.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Is that what that is?

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah? The place where lymphatic Yeah, the plate the place
where I go to get my off brand Ozmpic shots.
They have the they have the red light therapy and
they have the lymphatic drainage, but it's your whole body,
so they put they put them on your arms and
up to your chest and on your legs and it
just squeezes you, squeezes you. It's really warm and it

(30:00):
squeezes you and oh it's so good.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
I'm going to get the light things. I swear to God,
I'm going to get those. I'm going to price them,
and I'm going to see what I can do, because
I'm like, I think I need this in my household.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, I got one of those red light therapy like
sleeping bags. Like you get enough on both sides. It's
supposed to do all the great things for you. Now
if I did it every day, God knows how amazing
that would look. But I kind of forget about it.
So get the leg things and leave it in your
living room so you're forced to do it while you're
watching housewives. Yeah, Heather you Brow has a weed line.

(30:30):
Have you guys partaken in Heather you Bro's weed line.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I didn't even understand that that's what they were doing.
Of course it fits that that's what they were doing,
trying to promote her weed line. I'm not buying that
stick up or ass weed.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
It was the other girls promoting it into Mecula. They
were promoting it.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, because they love to Heathers. But I'm not smoking
Heather's weed. Hell No, I don't believe that. I mean,
I believe she has it, but I don't believe in her.
I don't believe in the Heather Strain. Yea, you'll just
feel so poor when you smoke it, like your paranoia
would come from like, oh my god, everyone's richer than me.

(31:08):
That's how she was, like purposely engineering, like I'll never.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Be able to afford this again. This one time, it's like.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Crap, I'll be like get out.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
It'll be like you smoke it and the next thing,
you know, like you wake up and you're like, you know,
a servant in her house.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Do you guys have thoughts on Tamra banging ninety eight degrees?
Remember Jeff Timmons, you have thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (31:31):
I said, go for it, you know what? Like cute?

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Yeah, Jeff is actually like Jeff was I remember correctly.
I mean Nick Lache was thet the guy he would
like the cis one, and Jeff back in the day
was pretty damn cute as well. So I say that
if Tamra like what like, because I don't ever advocate
for cheating, But the alternate is like simon, you know, hey,

(31:55):
why not?

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah? I don't.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
I don't care that she salmon some boy band guy.
Who wouldn't we would all bang a boy band guy
if we really? Yeah, and the one shaming her about
it is boning Slade for like over a decade. So
I'm not going to listen to Gretchen about that. Gretchen can.
Gretchen can keep her sluct shaming, Okay, and listen. I'm
no Tamera fan, but Tamra and get it where you can.

(32:18):
That's what I say.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
No Tamra fan would be putting it lightly. Ronnie.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah, yeah, well you're getting a very softer, gentler side
of me today.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
What do you I love that? I love that speaking
of they talk of red light.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, it made you the lymphatic drainage just made you
feel relaxed. I'm very worried, and I'm going to say
it here out loud. I'm worried Travis's ex wife is
going to try to murder their whole family because that
situation is dark.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Yeah, that situation is really ugly.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Oh my gosh, and it's hard to know. I mean,
I can't believe they haven't brought her on yet.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
No. I think she from what I've heard her talk
on other podcasts, she literally like has to be x
amount of feet away from them, and she'll measure that
and then set one feet one foot within it and
like perk her car and stare at their house and
like it's oh my god, it's wild. It wasn't like
he left her for Gina anything like that. They were

(33:16):
both totally single when they got together. She just can't
take it that he's like moved on and happy. This is,
of course, her version. We don't know. If Travis was
awful to this woman and made her crazy, We don't know,
but it does seem like it's gone on for a
long time and it's nutso. And now he's trying to
get full custody of his kids, which is pretty rare
for our guy, you know, try to get full custody.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Well che.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Who the ex wife is with.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yes, he's trying to say he doesn't have any income
and all of this other stuff, and that's why he
was rumored that that's why they were living apart and
all of this stuff, so Gina wouldn't get dragged into
his child support and all of this stuff because he
wants to get child support from his ex because she
comes from a wealthy family.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
M Hm, that's a rumor.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
So I mean, who really knows, because all I know
is what I read on the blogs, So I don't
know how reliable that is. And then the other side
we're getting from Gina, and I don't know how reliable
that is either. And then I read a bunch of
stuff that the wife had supposedly posted on Reddit, and
I don't know if I can believe that either. But
the whole thing, one thing I think we can all
agree on is that is messy. And I think the

(34:19):
most confusing part of it to me is that there's
people fighting over Travis.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, I mean you're fighting over like the human equivalent
of a used lazy boy chair, Like who is fighting
over that?

Speaker 1 (34:33):
He's cuted enough? He's cuted enough.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
I just feel like this if if she's still in
love with Travis, that she's feeling like very deranged at
the moment. I mean, I hope she gets some therapy,
and I hope she realizes there's a whole other world
out there, and if you want someone like Travis, you
can literally find them anywhere, like like a generic guy
with a beard, Like they're out there.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Girl, No, I like go to a investors, you know
what I mean, pretty but their winds are pretty like
move on, go like be crazy over someone who's gonna
be crazy back to you don't not Travis of all people.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Let them just be off with Gina Man.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Okay, now is that's that's hard on all trav big balls? Travis.
Now you guys, where Katie? Where is Katie? Is she gone?

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Like?

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Is she left the show?

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Like?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
What's because she hasn't been on the last two episodes.
Did she announce that she left? Is she coming back?

Speaker 4 (35:29):
What? I didn't know on the show.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
On the show, she said this might be the last
you see me for a while. And I think that
she'll be back for the reunion, but I feel like,
will this be the last? She's immensely popular with the audience,
and now Tamarra is friends with her, so Tamara will
champion her. I think Bravo likes people who are popular

(35:52):
with the audience. I think these ladies like to be
around popular people. So I think what will happen is
that like some of them will realize that they that
they they did it wrong, they alienated themselves from the
audience and are going to try to.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Be nicey nicey with Katie.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
So I think she will be back, and I think
we'll see what happens at Bravocon because I would not
be surprised if Katie shows up and everyone loves her,
And I would not be surprised if the audience just
like thrashes the real Househols of Orange County over Katie.
I would not be surprised, which would then make them.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
I've seen that a lot, and I'm surprised by it
because she does seem to be a liar. Now. I
don't know if she's lying about everything, but she lies
about some things.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Lying, you know, it's like you know what, it's like
a passover. We say, why is this night different from
all other nights? Ok why is this liar different from
all other liars? That's my question?

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Okay, you've seen this cast.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
Have you seen the liars on this castlily lying?

Speaker 4 (36:54):
So far?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
We've seen Gretchen lie a zillion times on just the
season alone, so we know she's a She lied, bold face,
lied like to the audience in one episode. Within one episode,
she turned, she changed her story. So we see her
compulsively lying, you know, and then after she gets in trouble,
she runs on Instagram. She got in trouble with, you know,
liking all these anti gay and anti transposts and then

(37:17):
suddenly she's following all these gay accounts and liking all
these you know, positive trans things, and she was getting
in trouble for making a racist video, you know, or
a racially insensitive video with Jim Pedranti. And then the
next thing, you know, she's planning a lunch with all
of the Asian people that she knows to get pictures
on Instagram and talking about how much she loves her girlfriend.
I mean, we know she's full of shit. We know

(37:38):
that Tamra lies. We know that, we know that well,
we know all of them are lying. It's real housewives,
you know. So I just told her that that standard
is weird. And also she was right about a lot
of things. I believe that Heather did call the paparazzi
on herself, as she proved in that Beverly Hills episode,
having that paparazzi agree to be on camera to prove

(37:58):
her innocence or whatever.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
I believe.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
What was the other thing that she said. I believe
that Gretchen did say that at dinner that she got
roofed and had to go to the hospital.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
I don't really believe that.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
So anything else that Katie has lied about, I think
the main tent poles of her lies, I believe.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
So I think what happened is they all were drinking
at dinner, and maybe Katie wasn't drinking as much as
the others and heard it more clearly. But I do
think Gretchen was probably like you wouldn't even believe it,
you know, she was drunk, and like, I don't know
if they gave me something or what, but the next
day I was so sick. It was like I'd been drugged.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
One hundred percent. That's what we've been saying all this time.
Like I think that, like we say things, and we
remember things not as well as we think, And so
I would not be surprised Gretchen said it and she
just didn't remember that she said it. And I would
not be surprised if Katie said something I didn't remember.
But like, I think they all live in their weird trees,
and I also think that they lied too. I would

(38:52):
not be surprised if Gretchen was lying. I would not
be surprised if Katie was lying. I guess for us,
we just don't see why this is an offense that
is worth driving someone off the show, especially when you
have Gretchen speaking out of both sides of her mouth
about going to the hospital, and then she is we
actively see her change her story about Tamra and the
recording and Slade. She first she says she has the recording,

(39:13):
then she was shown the recording, and then she's like, no,
Slade has it, and then it's this, and then it's
not that, and then on top of that, it's like,
oh wait, please don't tell the other girls. Please don't
tell all the other girls. She's actually behaving in the
way exactly the same way that Katie said she acted
about this roofie charge. So it's just like, why are
we throwing people off the show for these kinds of things?

(39:38):
Why are we escalating this to like high trees? And
the same thing happened to Lisa Vanderbump as well. The
difference is that with Lisa vander Pump, I think it's
like the lucy lucy apple juicy thing, like did she
or did she not tell the press? I don't think
it's that big of a deal, but I sense that,
like the women were just sick of Lisa calling them

(39:58):
up in the morning and saying you got to say this,
you got say this. Then like we're going to take
this into our own hands, but with Katie. Katie's not
Lisa vander Pump. She was there for like one season. Yeah,
and like her biggest crime is that, like she you
know in the off season, is that she spoke to
a blogger and said, Okay, speak to this podcaster and
she mentioned this thing.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
To Kiki, Like who cares? Why are you.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
Sending someone off the show when people have done so
much worse?

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I agree. And the thing is that Kiki keeps I
was like, Keiki the nicest person on the earth. I
was like, it would be like it would be like
dragging Dandy Pellegrino down, like the nicest person, Like what
are we doing? This is these are not like bad
podcasters or bad bloggers or people that spreadshit and act awful,
Like Kiki, Monique is the nicest person you know. And

(40:43):
I'm always like, whatever Keiki says, I believe it.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
Shannador drove a card drunk and she could have killed someone.
And you know, I love Shannon. I love that she's
still on the show. We love making jokes about how
she crashed into a house because it is kind of
like a Keystone Cops kind of drunk driving video. But
if you really boil it down, she did do that.
It's really irresponsible. I loved when that was brought up,

(41:07):
and it's like it's like, that's that's more reprehensible. And
I just don't think that. I think this the punishment
did not fit the crime. I think, like give Katie shit,
like scream at her, you know, and do the typical
housewives things, but like running her off the show, especially
when she's like the only non white person on this cast.

(41:28):
I believe that's just a really shitty look.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, well I agree. So I hope she I mean,
I hope she comes back this season. I hope she
like pops up at a dinner, shows up in Amsterdam.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
I think it's it's I think she doesn't go on
the cast trip. No, there were reports about that, but
maybe she'll show up for the finale.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Okay, so okay, Salt Lake City. Now, on this episode
of Salt Lake Uh, they go to Amy Steele's house.
Is Amy Steel a new housewife? Are they trying to
make Amy Steel happen?

Speaker 4 (42:01):
I hang up for like a friend of maybe.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I don't know, maybe that was her audition and she
kind of failed it I mean, she didn't even say anything.
She should have been like, ladies, this is not the place.
I'm Ammy Steele, who's who of Salt Lake City? Haven't
you heard?

Speaker 4 (42:14):
We don't act like that. Here.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Mitch mccollins is over there, nodding his head, very fat.
He's shaking his gewls at you, ladies. Get it together.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
They showed her house, they showed the invitation, They did
a lot about Amy Steele, and then Amy Steele really
did not talk at the party. I was expecting Amy
Steele to jump in and be like, I'm Amy Steele.
Quit fighting at my party.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Cast is there was a blonde lady who had like
old Tamera hair from like nineteen ninety six, like a
helmet up here and then like a big braid that
came out of the helmet.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Did you see her? They kept showing her. She looked crazy.
Whoever that was?

Speaker 2 (42:53):
I was saying in our recap that was like a
fashion show for terrible, terrible Salt Lake City hair. There
was so much bad hair there and not even a hairgate.
I don't even have hair except on my back, Like
who am I have died?

Speaker 4 (43:05):
But that is? That was?

Speaker 2 (43:06):
That was shameful. That was shameful. What's happening in that city?
I want them to cast all those bad hair people
there wastfits too.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
Yeah, Bravo has an article up on their official website
that says who is Ammy Steel And they just talk
about like her background And she's the owner and founder
of the Steel Vault, a luxury medical spa in Utah
where she also serves as a master esthetician. And she
got her career in the tech industry and worked to
IBM and sales blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
I think the fact that Bravo.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
Has actually dedicated some time into like telling talking about
who she is and her bio on their website probably
means that we'll be seeing more of her, But I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Her debut was not unlike.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
Melee Melee from last season and if you don't remember
Melee or two.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Seasons ago, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, she was like.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
No, I think mainly I think Malee was last season
she was.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yeah she was. Yeah, we just didn't we hardly knew. Yeah,
But so Amy still is it as it owns a
owns a competitor to be lab and laser. Wow, that
could be a thing.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Ham She used to work at IBM, So not only
do you get an esthetician, but you get somebody who
understands computers.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
So watch out.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
She worked at Salesforce, which is isn't that where didn't
Bromlin work at Salesforce at one point? At one point,
I will double check this before I started spouting off Salesforce.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Uh did you see Braunman on to Watch What Happens Live?
And she was asked about by the way Christian Seriano
was like in the front row as like her guest,
and she was asked about the allegations about her stealing,
and she was like, it's sealed court cases. I can't
discuss it. I was like, okay, I think if it's you,
you can probably discuss whatever you want. But she was like, no,

(44:51):
it's sealed by the court, so I'm not allowed to
speak on it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, I was telling Ben earlier, it's funny watching Bromwin
come in so strong, and I think she did a
great job versus Lisa, and she won that hands down.
I don't think there's even any you know, argument about that.
But it's funny knowing that her stuff is coming right
down the pike and her stuff is bad like Lisa's
stuff is you know, you borrowed money or you had
a business that failed, you didn't pay the money back whatever.

(45:18):
Bron wins his like, isn't it like identity theft?

Speaker 1 (45:22):
And yeah I was, but it's sealed. It can't talk
about it.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
It was crazy, Well someone's going to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
It's somebody's going to talk about it. And yeah, you're
right in that bromin versus Lisa. Lisa trying to make
gout dick sucker happen was hilarious. I was like, so,
do you get gout in your dick or you mean
he has gout in his feet? And then that makes
you a gout dick sucker?

Speaker 5 (45:49):
Is it like bad to suck the dick of someone
who has gout? It was like, I feel like the
gout doesn't isn't really?

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Uh? I think it isn't really? Did she mean goiter? Maybe?

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Like I think she's just saying you sucked the dick
of an old man. She's like, yeah, it's like an
old people thing. So she's just saying you're like with
an old man. But then they cut to all their
husbands and none of those are spring chickens. And then
they just kept cutting to Mitch mcconnall being like, well, gown.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
It was so interesting because I was like, how long
did you think of that in the car and you
thought like this is going to hit, this is going
to hit. She could have said like old man, dick sucker.
I mean, that would even made more sense. But then
bro was like, yeah, I'd like to suck dick, and
everybody goes, it's fine because they're married. It's okay, she's married.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
It wasn't gonna move past the slut shaming as a fight.
You know, that's just not It's it's stupid, Like who
doesn't suck their husband's dick? I mean well probably a
lot of people.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
It's like, what kind of diss is that? It's just
a stupid diss. She could do better, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
It was uh yeah, Bronwin basically ate her up, and
that was like these I was like really proud of
that gout line because like she repeated it, she said,
I said gout dick sucker, because was like, oh, so
now I'm a dick sucker. Gout dick sucker. Remember the
gout part. That's the funny part. I was told that's
the funny part. It's like, okay, really trying it with
a gout thing. Yeah, I guess he was trying to

(47:16):
like imply like, oh, old man. I feel like there's
just got to be a better old man feature that
you could use instead of gout. I mean, gout's kind
of a funny word to say, but astis, yeah, arthritic.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
You know, like, how's it? You know, go back to
go back to fucking Andy Rooney. I mean I don't know,
like go back dam yeah with him?

Speaker 4 (47:36):
What's the what's the organization for old people? Again?

Speaker 5 (47:41):
Like you haven't been a member of AA I'm about
to say that. I am a member of years since
like I was thirty. I've been a member.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
They keep sending me toe bags and stuff, and I'm like,
I know I'm old, but I'm not joining.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
My mom told me, you know, you and Ben need
to branch out. You know who you should really get
involved with AARP. I mean, they have a very good
newsletter you guys need.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
To get I'm a member. I got those discounts. I'm like,
I accept it. I accept the discounts.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
I'm just of the right age where they just look
at me and they go you can have it. The
situation with Mary's son is continuing to be very sad,
but I do like that maybe he's being a little
bit more honest and he's like, yeah, smoked weed. I
was like, I don't know what this is weed. But
he's still living at home and it's just sad, and

(48:31):
I think it is really sort of humanized Mary a
lot to us. And somehow the situation with her son
being really sad has made her very funny on our TV.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Well, She's always been really funny on the TV. I
think people have just gotten used to her being so rude.
And also I think last year they must have told her, like,
if you're going to stay on this show, you have
to stay at events and you have to interact with people.
You can't just be yeah, hating everybody and never interacting
like it's an ensemble show. And I think she took

(49:01):
the note and she's doing it, you know, because we
see we see we see situations where Mary would have
walked off the first five minutes and she's actually just
staying there and dealing with whatever comes her way, and
you can see her kind of relaxing into it. It's
like now that she's kind of forced in a way
to be around these people. She's kind of loosening up

(49:22):
and she's feeling more comfortable.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
I think she is very funny. She is just naturally funny.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
She really is.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Situation with her son is sad, but somehow it's she's
lightened up. But Okay, another thing I want to discuss.
Lisa had that lunch with Heather and Lisa. She just
literally says, I'm not like all of you, like I'm
better than you, I'm richer than you. I mean, she
just says it flat out. I'm not like you. I
don't live the same lifestyle you do.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
I think she thinks that. I think she thinks that.
She She's like, I'm a businesswoman. I have like a
real job, not like a fake job that I drummed
up just for the show.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Like, you know, is it the tequila that's your job?
That's your real jobs?

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Tequila?

Speaker 5 (50:07):
The party planning. She's like a mover and a shaker.
I think that's what she's implying. But it's like, but
her real job is still kind of nebulous. She's a
party planner for Sundance. Sundance has left Park City now,
so now what what's left?

Speaker 4 (50:23):
So I don't.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
I think I'm assuming that's what she thinks. I think,
you know, she's like, she shot some commercials.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
I think she's saying, like, you guys, I have all
these stories about me, but I have these stories about
me because I'm in a very I'm in the entertainment.
Like she thinks that her, her claim to the entertainment
industry or whatever is far above everybody else's. So she's
I think in her mind, she's like, I'm a celebrity,
and that's why I have all of these things. You

(50:50):
guys don't understand what it's like to be me. Like
I just hung out with Blake Live. I'm like this
just with Ben and Blake, So like, I don't even
know what you're mad about that kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
But yeah, it's it's I.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
Love her bragging about hanging out with Blake Lively when
like so many people are just like hates Blake Lively.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
It's not flex.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's just like not a good flex.
And she's like, yeah, I'm not gonna with Blake Lively.
So y'all got excited.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Well, it's like Meredith posting this week, she's like throwing
pinctures and it's like her and puff Daddy, not Puff
Daddy Snoop Dogg.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
And I'm like, oh, really, say, Kanye, like how much
how much worse? Gonna get?

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Great timing on that one.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
I will tell you something that also shocked me on
Salt Lake City was Heather saying that you know, she
was she was, she was me and she and this
is that she's like fine line getting all these kids
out of the house, right, Like I'm actually gonna get
to do something for myself. And I really felt that
because I've been in that situation. And but what was
so different was her saying that once she got divorced,
her ex husband never took the kids to sleep at

(51:55):
his house ever, so they didn't have any arrangement. Were
like every other weekend or like every third she think
he never took them once ever, Like, WHOA, what a
piece of shit? That's really bad.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
Well, I can't say that the reputation of Mormon men
on this show has been so wonderful. It seems like
it's been a bit not great. I mean, I feel
like that's the story that I always am hearing, is
that the women are constantly getting the shaft on these shows.
I mean secret lives of Mormon wives. You saw Jen Affleck.
At least, I really only speak to season one. What

(52:29):
I saw season two is all of a sudden, the
guy came back. I want to work on a relationship again.
But like, it seems like the women are constantly being
just like shafted whether you have to do this, and
you have to do this, and you have to do this,
and you know we're going to go do all the
fun stuff.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
So what a surprise.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
It was wild that she I mean, I mean, I
know plenty of people that are divorced and they just
split the kids up and you get them Thursday through
Sunday every other week. You know, that's like a typical
thing for her to be Like, No, like, I don't
feel bad that my last one's going to college and
I'm looking forward to having some time alone, and it's
like I just feel the opposite. I just want my uh,
I just want not only do you want a kid

(53:04):
around me? I wonder her and her seventeen year old
boyfriend to live in the house. There's no problem with that, right, Like, whoa,
that's also problematic, But okay.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
I was there problematic?

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Well, if there, it seems like they're like seniors in
high school and she's like, the boyfriend can move in.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
I oh, because it was there. How old are they,
like seventeen.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Look seventeen eighteen? Yeah, they're if they're eighteen in college
and all the parents are on board. But it's you know,
I don't know it gets into Utah.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
It's it starts early over in Utah.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
You know. That's a great point.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
I mean Robert got married when he was what seventeen too,
wasn't his girlfriend underaged? I think because the family, the
family came after Mary like called the police and all
of this for kidnapping because they were fostering or not
fostering what do you call it when you're keeping someone
in your house harboring harboring, Yes, they were harboring a

(53:57):
runaway or something like an under runaway or something.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
So yeah, I think maybe.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
And also watching the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, I
mean they start so young, they're like babies on TV,
and they've all got multiple children, so oh.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're like I have my first one
at seventeen, and then my next one at nineteen, and
now I'm twenty four or six kids, and you're like yeah. Wow, yeah,
but listen, it's a whole new world. Well listen, I
think we covered it all. I'm just looking to make
sure you know Brittany and Jared, I mean, what can
we say about that power couple. I mean, nobody, nobody
hates anybody more than he hates her.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
He hates her.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
He hates her. He's like, they're like, are you in
love with her? I don't know. I got her? Who
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
Have an announcement. I have an announcement. We're not engaged.
I have an announcement.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
We just broke up the engagement right afterwards, guys, because
we really care about our kids.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
We really care.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
You think she's leaning into the eye have an announcement?

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Yeah, I think so. I think she was.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
I think she was like, she's like, well, I know
this is my thing. People love me for this, and
we know because obviously she's she proceeded that with like,
well I'm known as the video girl. But she's like,
I think she thinks she's owning it and being like
winking to the audience, but she's still as like delusional
and ridiculous as the past.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Well you know that I did quite a bit when
that sold On SLC was on and she was working there.
And you know who else was working there was Taylor
Frankie Paul's baby daddy. He was working there too, and
Taylor Frankie Paul's mom. They were all working at that
sold on SLC place, all of them.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
Oh that's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Oh yeah, I remember the mom was Taylor Frankie's mom,
but I didn't who else who else worked there?

Speaker 1 (55:40):
The boyfriend that had the second baby with her, Taylor
frank Paul's baby daddy, and Brittany was working there as well.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Oh wow, Yeah, they were also deserved another chance.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
I didn't get it that she didn't get enough.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
I liked it. I liked it. Bring it back. Here
are prayers. Yeah, I got you guys, learned to I'm crunching.
You're so nice to do this with me and I
always love talking to you so much. Am I going
to see both of you at bravocn you.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
Sure will will be there. Sure it's going to be
a good time.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
I know, ron Ben, you can't have an organ go
out like last time you had your gallbladder out or
something and we had to watch your sat.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
Oh your appendix. Yeah, no fingers crossed. My my second
appendix will stay put.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Tell everybody where they could find you and what all
you're covering right now on your amazing podcast.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
Someone anyway, all right, I'll do it. I'll do it.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
You can find us at watch for Crappins on Instagram
at what Crappens on X and then I'm at Ben
Mandelker on Instagram and X and Blue Sky, and Ronnie's
at Ronnie Karum on Instagram and X. And then we

(56:59):
are covering every and Bravo right now, which is not much,
but it's about to explode. So we have all the
housewives at Lake Miami oc below deck Meds coming back
this week, and yeah, we're having fun. We just did
some while we're in this Bravo draft. We just covered
some some fun one off episodes of Great British Bakeoff
and Real Housewives of London and things like that. So

(57:20):
but but always coming back soon and then a whole
bunch of other shows. So we will be you know,
up to eyeballs and all sorts of Bravo stuff once
again very shortly.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
And I will promote that you guys have over on
your paid feed. You have dwell Hello, where you cover
HGTV House Hunters And it's the joy of my week.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
Oh, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
I'm a huge h TV fan and I don't even
have to look up the episode, like I'll know who
it is immediately. I'm like, all those assholes, yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Yeah, yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I love it. I love it all right.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Thanks for having you, guys.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Love you so much. See you at Bravo Con.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Yes, see you there for having us.

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