1043 - 60 DAYS IN (s4e1) "The Beginning of the End" with Keisha

Mary Payne and Keisha tackle a new inmate show for Mugshot Monday! Per Kimberly's request, we are covering 60 DAYS IN and on (s4e1) "The Beginning of the End" we dive in! First of all, who on earth would ever participate in this experiment? And also WHY would you put your son into the experiment knowing he's "soft" (looking at you, greasy haired Pastor MATT!). Alan, a cop, is also going in and hoping no one realizes he's a cop. We also have Jaclin, who hopes being in prison will help her with her law career. There's also Matt's son, Andrew, who is a sweet soul but also looks like a possible serial killer. And then we have Nate, who is already in the program, and has decided to stay for ANOTHER 60 DAYS. We're going IN TO prison, bunkies, get your bunk and commissary ready!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's a monk shot Monday.
You guys, we have a brand new show. I got
Keisha here. Keisha, are we mad at Kimberly for making
us cover this show? Were so far where you did? Okay,
so far you're mad? Kisha and I have not said
one word to each other about this. I wanted to
make sure we said it on the air now because

(00:37):
I've seen sixty days in before. I don't know what season, when,
how I did it somehow with Kimberly. I do know
that these these first episodes really are like setting who
the people are, and it is gonna get juicy, and
we are going to meet more of the prisoners and
get their personalities, you know, like who's the good guy,

(00:58):
who's the bad guy?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I got enough their personalities from their first episode.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Okay, okay, I watched an episode.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
It just had to hug a dog because I'm like,
what the actual fuck? I'm not even in the prison
with them, and I don't feel I'm scared of Rue.
This guy Rue, I'm afraid of him, Like I'm like,
did I look at him wrong? And He's gonna come
after me?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Like I'm scared of him.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, I was. I was a little bit nerved up
in mind. I need to go take a hot shower
and do like the doctor till's what is its? So
I need to breathe it all in. I was like, fuck, Kimberly,
I said, I told you, Kimberly set us up. She
set us up. Mary Payne, I.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Understand where you're coming from. But I think we're gonna
get more into it and get more into the characters
because I think that because this season is the one
where one of the people that goes in just starts
acting like a full inmate and like now wants to
be an inmate instead of being on the outside. And
that's kind of a switcher root, which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I think from the previews I can guess who it is.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, it's gonna be the girl that we hadn't seen yet.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I think that's the mostly. I think she's thriving. She
thrives in prison like Todd Chris thrived in prison. Okay,
like that was her jam.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, yeah, that is funny. Well, and then I didn't
know when I went to watch it. I watched it
on Hulu. Everybody else went to Hulu. I talked it
in sixty Days in season four, episode one, and so
it was I guess a carryover from season three. So
I guess the season three we were in this same jail,
because Kimberly says they do switch jails, so it's not always.

(02:43):
It must have started one and two were somewhere, so
three and four in Fulton County, Okay. And you know,
I said to Kimberly, I was like, I don't understand
how the inmates don't catch on that they're being filmed
for sixty days in especially by season four, And she said,
they always are like it's a documentary covering the criminals,
the system, whatever. That's how they get them into the
little room, and they bring everybody in. They're not just

(03:06):
not just the ones yeah that are on the outside.
They bring everywhere. That's how you get some of those
interviews with the other people, like explaining what it's like
in there and stuff. I find it. Listen, it's a
thousand times better than Family lock Up, which we tried
to cover.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But it's
a certain but I felt like I was in the prison. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I didn't like that. I didn't like that. I had
to like tell myself afterwards, grow you were okay, you're
in Elite City, Texas, you are at home, you are safe.
My anxiety went up.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
And my anxiety was up to and when I was
done with it, I closed the laptop and I'll tell Dave,
I go, okay, I'm done with work, you know, for
the day. Blah blah blah. I want to watch something
else because we've been watching football all day. And I said,
Hottie saty we won, and I was like, let's Dave
didn't sorry, and I was like, uh, let's watch something else.

(04:03):
Can we watch?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Slow Horses on Apple, which is a thing that we've
watched and you know, we won a couple of Emmy's
last year. It's great.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Never heard of it.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
It's about the m I five, which is like the
CIA in London. But the slow Horses are like the
losers that did something bad in them I five and
got taken down to this division, like the division for losers,
and they call them slow Horses. So it's sort of
like the Misfits, but they're always like getting into stuff

(04:35):
and Gary Oldman is the head of them. Oh no,
don't ooh because he is. Just look up right now,
get your phone, look up.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I said, ooh, because he can be kidding. He was
serious black and Harry Potter. He was freaking hot. And
he is hands down the best Dracula. I agree, all
the draculas. And he was sexy even when he turned
into like them rat things. Yeah, he's still sexy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Gary Oldman has been in lots of things. I would
like for you just to get your phone right now
and google Gary Oldman in Slow Horses.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
And you see guy looking.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Oh, Keisha, and he's supposed to look that way. He's
supposed to look like a fat, alcoholic, disgusting, greasy hair
who and he's like has terrible slow horses. Yeah, and
one of his characteristics is has gas and how and
how bad he stinks?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Oh no, mm.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Hmm, it's awful.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Have you seen his son?

Speaker 1 (05:44):
No, we'll get pulled that up and show me on
the screen. Gary Oleman's son. Is he an actor too?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I believe so he is. He's quite a good looking
can you see you?

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oh he is cute.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, he's cute.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
We gotta watch on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, yeah, he's a haughty.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, you know what's interesting, Kisha so the way your
curtains are behind you and then the way mine are,
it looks like it's like kind of like one room.
Is that interesting?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
One day, I feel like we will record in the
same room together.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
I know it might be a hotel room, but we'll
be that's fine.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I feel like one day, I feel like us meeting
in New York was not the last time that we'll meet.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Oh absolutely, not absolutely.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
I think I can't wait to record us together in
the same room.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Lord knows what will happen. All right, guys, it's not
gonna be today. So I'm sixty days in season four,
episode one. The beginning of the end is the name
of this episode. Okay, so the premise of this show,
I'm gonna tell you what it says like on the
A and E site. I gotta make this spont smaller
because I can't see you and see the screen.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
The premise of the show is to have ordinary civilians
volunteer to go undercover in a jail for two months
without the knowledge of other inmates or staff, to expose corruption,
drug use, gang activity, and other problems within the prison system.
The goal is to gather intel to help implement real
time changes and improvements within the facility. Some participants are

(07:19):
law enforcement officers, while others are motivated by personal reasons
such as understanding the justice system better or wanting to
see if they can survive the experiment.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Why look, why does it have to be sixty days?
Give me three days like they do on family Like,
I'll be like everything is fucked up. These people got
me fucked up. Day be fighting Davy Spreeman, Davy yelling
there's lots of bullying going on. I need sixty days.
I need to be a snitch within a day.

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com slash pink shade. Okay, so we opened the episode
with this dramatic foreshadowing of something that's going to happen

(09:37):
somebody's going to be kicked out of the program for
jeopardizing other people's safety and say this person went full
inmate and forgot why they were there. That is why
Kimberly wanted us to watch this season specifically.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Okay Kimberly, Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
So we meet Colonel Mark Adger, the chief jailer at
the Fulton County Jail. He's been in the Marines, he
was the commander of the sheriff's swat team there in
Fulton County. Fulton County is basically Atlanta, and he wants
to do this operation to learn from innocent civilian so
he can improve his prison.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
In Phase one, he tells us they learned a lot
about issues like smuggled contraband and prescription medication abuse, gang violence,
issues with the staff. They learned a lot about how
to improve and we see a lot of clips of that,
which is just what we've got to come Okay, right,
it's all very upsetting. Now, he says, Now we're in
Phase two, we're going to dive deeper into the issues
with eight more participants. They have diverse backgrounds and experiences.

(10:35):
This phase is different because we're starting with two participants
already in jail. Now we only meet the one Nate, right,
So who's the other one? We don't know, We don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I'm thinking maybe it's a girl because we only saw
one girl on this episode, Jacqueline.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, but in another one's coming. But there's two more
coming in Angel or Angel and Stephanie and Angel Angel
is the one. I think he's gonna go full inmate.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
She likes it.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
There, she likes it. So we see Nate as a
Phase one holdover. He's earned the trust of the gang members.
He's a white dude that looks super like white, but
somehow everybody likes it.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, yeah, which I was shocked. I'm like, oh, I
know he gets beat up every single day. Yeah, I
know they have forced him to drop the soak a
whole bunch of times. But no, it was so it
was a total opposite. They they like them. They clearly
he likes them because he's standing extra thirty what is

(11:39):
it an extra sixty days? Right?

Speaker 1 (11:42):
He is volunteering to stay an extra stay longer.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Okay, See, so I know that deep down inside there's
something wrong with Nate because there's no way look y'all
says sixty days. I'm done at sixty days. I'm not
gonna say this is something the army.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Like, you don't get to reap.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why he's I don't.
Hopefully we'll hear more about why he has chosen to stay.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Did you notice he had that scar in the middle
of his head. Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
I wonder did he get it there?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Me too, It's like a Harry Potter scar. So we
get clips of the new people. We get like just
quick clips of them explaining the sales. We have Johnny, Matt,
Angel or Angel. It's Angel with an E on the end,
so we'll find out how it's pronounced. Jacqueline is also
spelled wrong, Alan, Andrew, Emmanuel and Stephanie.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Okay, so.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Nate, Nate was a marine. This is all we know
about Nate because we didn't see this.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Season before, and that he's engaged, right, he's engaged, so
he's trying specifically to stay four months away. Yeah. I
feel like it's fiance and he are going to have
a long talk when he finally gets done. If he
doesn't re up again, I don't know, but.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Maybe he's getting so much money that they're like, this
will pay for the whole wedding, Like we'll be able
to get a starter house with this money. You know,
maybe it's worth.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
It, Harry Payne, what you could offer me a million dollars?
I'm not standing extra sixty days in there, there's no
I won't last a week. We wouldn't last a week.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
I don't know if I would last just one night
on that little tiny mattress, my back would hurt. I
need my advil.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
And it didn't look like they had pillows.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Uh uh, And I think they just got to figure
it out. So so Nate says he's been there sixty
one days and he feels good. He's surviving and he's thriving.
He says, these guys in here don't look past their twenties.
And I'm hoping to go for a career in law enforcement,
which is interesting because I think we heard that with
Harry on Love after Lockup, who said he never thought

(13:49):
he'd live past twenty three, so he may as well
just like go balls to the wall, and he did
and he did. So Nate meets with doctor Jamie Blandinu,
who's a psychologist, to evaluate him, to make sure he's
fit to stay there, right, So she says, have you
witnessed anything that you have found hard to shake off?

(14:10):
We've witnessed some things hard to shake off. In the
first five minutes, yeah, and he's like cool about it.
He goes, look, the fightings and the jumpings are hard.
You can't do anything about it. And then we just
see lots and lots of people getting beat up.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
It was too much.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
What was that show? We also saw where they did
like the where the inmates they let them run the prison,
and we saw that.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Ye good, yeah, yeah, but this just seemed a little
bit dark. And for me to say there's a lot
of fighting, it's a lot because you know, I watched
Jocelyn's Cabaret and Battie said, all those bitches do is fight.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, it just was like fight and you can't go anywhere.
You have to stay, I know, in this situation.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
And you also have to like not look because if
you look, then the CEOs know what you're looking at.
And then do you know what I mean, Like the
people go and fight and they all have to act
like it's not happening, so the CEOs don't see it.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
I don't think I didn't see enough CEOs.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, getting everybody off their little k Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, I'm like, are they just not like, do they
not hear? This ship that's going on is very odd?

Speaker 1 (15:22):
So he said, he you know, I deal with it
by working out every day and he goes. But it
is hard to like keep the lie going. I lie
to everybody all the time, but I have a fiance's
very supportive. Okay, that's Nate. NAT's real cute. I think,
so very cute. Now we meet Alan. Now of course
I did get their pictures. Now I wonder Kisha because
we because you might get confused because some of these people.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Because right now I'm trying to remember who to hell.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Alan, Okay, let me look first of all, let's look
at Nate.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Okay, that's Nate. He's got a big forehead, but he's
still really cute.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
He is.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I think his personality makes him cute too.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I do too. I think he's got a fun personally.
I think that's why the guys him.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I think they like him.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
And then let me see Keisha. If I can find
I had a picture of Nate's forehead. I wonder if
I just didn't transfer that one over. I have like
a kind of a close What a weirdo, I am. Okay,
So here's Alan purpose Yeah I did it.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Oh yeah, he books.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
So here's Alan. Now Alan. The way you can kind
of tell these two white guys apart is Alan has
darker hair. Andy has big ears, and.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
He's short and not attractive, and he smells like a cop.
I can smell him as a cop through the TV.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
That is so funny. Okay, So this is Alan. So
we first meet Alan. This is his first full weekend side.
So they pull him for an interview and he says,
in today's world, I think cops are perceived as killers
and as the enemy. And that's hard breaking. And we're
all people. And I don't judge anybody based on the

(17:05):
color of their skin. And I'm truly.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
I don't know, Mary Payne, I don't. I don't think
I would want to get pulled over by Allen.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Listen. Jury's out on Alan.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Okay, Yeah, because he's a little there's something odd duckish.
But I feel like he's seen some things and he's
done some things.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
I cant be wrong. We could be wrong, but but
y he says, yes it is. He said, I you know,
I became a cop. I truly want to help people,
and I live in the city where I work. He
has a seventh month old daughter. She's very cute. He
says he's gonna miss his daughter and his wife, Brittany
the most and the and the wife is like, oh,
this is you know, it's really gonna be hard. She's like,

(17:48):
he's why does he get to take a two month
break from taking care of this baby?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (17:53):
So he says, I know the kind of people that
I put in jail, so it is nerve wracking. You know,
I could wind up dead in there if they find
out I'm a cop.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Right, yes, seek yeah, he could big time. He needs
to do he needs to put like a tattoo on
his face.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Or something right away.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
He just looks like a total.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Cop sentinel right on the right on the eyebrow. Yeah,
but then they won't make him do fentanyl and he
don't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Well, okay, maybe thug life.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah that really been fit that that yeah yeah thug life.
Yeah yeah, this guy what a thug? Okay, So he
said his best move is just a lay low and
not look around too much. So he goes back and
sits alone on the stairs, and you see these big
black dudes going that white boy over there, he's the police.
And the one goes the one with the chicken feet,

(18:42):
and the other one says, no, the one with the mullet.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Okay, so chicken feet.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
I didn't understand the chicken feet. And he does not
have a mullet, but he does have a bad hairdoo.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
It's a it's a very very bad hair tout.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, that is just the face of a cop in
every way. It just this.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
And what does he say that he's in there for.
I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
I don't remember hearing his story. Yeah, the only two
people who I remember hearing their story was Jacqueline and
the dad and the son. Those are the only two,
because I heard like Jacqueline practicing her story.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, right, right, right now. Okay, So now we meet Matt. Now,
let me pull Matt up for you, just in case
everybody wants to have some nightmares. This is Matt.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
He could be good looking if he got rid of
the stringy, nasty hair. The hair it hasn't been washed
months since the Book of Mormon was.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Created, that's about right. So he is a former Utah
prison chaplain. So I wonder he must be like high
up in the Mormon church or did he go to
seminary and become I don't do Mormons go to seminary.
You know that's speaking for his Methodists, like, I don't know,
let me take him off our screen. So he now

(20:10):
he's an MMA trainer. So he says he was an idealist,
but you know, to be a prison chaplain. But he
got tired of being exploited and used by the inmates.
He would go to, you know, talk to and at
the end he had such a bad experience with one
inmate that he wanted He pictured himself jumping over and
like choking the guy, and so he had to quit.

(20:31):
And now he's an MMA trainer, so he's channeling his anger.
His wife is Martha and they have eight children. This
guy is my age fifty six. Okay, let's let's talk
about that for a second. Fifty six fifty six.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
He look.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
But again, just watch that his hair.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
It's the hair. That hair really ages them. If he
got like a nice cue haircut, you do wink at him.
Don't come over here talk to me, but I'm gonna
give you a little wink.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Uh. He has eight kids, and his wife is saying
that's too many. Martha, Martha and Matt, and you know
they live in Utah. They moved back to Utah from
wherever they were and his wife really wanted to raise
their kids with like minded people. So okay, the kids
all seem to be probably twenties to teenagers. Yeah, God,

(21:34):
that means that woman probably had a baby. She probably
had babies from like twenty two to forty. She probably
had kids.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Oh so she just stayed for agnant. Yeah yeah, and
oh that's her heart.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Less her bless, bless her heart. Bless Martha's heart. So
Matt tells his family what he's doing, and he says,
this is what I'm doing. And guess what Andrew is
going with me. And Andrew is his son. One who
looks like this. Andrew. Andrew is a substitute teacher.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
And he looks like one. He also looks like he
like sets off bombs and places and stuff like that.
I think he'll I think the prisoners will be afraid
of him because they'd be like, I know, if you
guys give him like a roller, pulet paper as some
two pasts, he's gonna blow this motherfucker up. He's just
got and he has child bearing hips Keisha.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
When I saw those child bearing hips, I said, oh lord,
I said, Keisha is going to be upset about this.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
But hold on, Mary, kay. Nothing was worse than when
they showed his brother.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
No, let me tell me, I mean tell me. I
can't remember his brother long hair.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
No long hair, and he had the emo boy man haircut.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
I was that TONI the Knight, and I yous, I
did see it.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
I did see it.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
So he's so he's like, dad's got long hair. Yeah,
and then I got this nerd.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, then I've got the base. But I like the extreme. Bad. Yeah,
it was really bad.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
It was bad. Martha, what's going on in your house?
Oh god? He says, Andrew's going too, and you know
in the talking head, Matt goes, I know what I
want to get from the experience, but I want Andrew
to grow and become tougher.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Okay, I think there's I think, like take him to
some of the m m A classes to make him tougher.
I think taking him to prison is a bit extreme.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I don't get this. I don't get my dad is
so down on Andrew. Andrew's twenty five.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Okay, do I have a suspicion?

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Oh, okay, you think he's trying to He's trying to
beat the gay out of him.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
I think he is. I hope to God I'm wrong,
but that is just the vibe that I'm picking up.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
That didn't occur to me. But now that you said it. Yeah,
so Andrew's substitute teacher. He says he served a two
year LDS Mormon mission in Brazil. Religion is very important
to him and people people think that Mormonism is odd,
and he's become very liberal in his thinking, okay, and

(24:28):
it's hard to reconcile his personal beliefs with the church's beliefs.
But he still considers himself a Mormon. Okay, all right, Andrew,
Andrew going out in the world learning some things.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
See, So now he's kinda maybe he's one of the
kind of Mormons that we like, because you know, we
like the secret lives of Mormon Mormons. That's sultry Mormons
like those are a kind of Mormons. So yeah, I
like this. I like that he is branching out.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, I like it too, But maybe Dad doesn't like it.
I don't know, maybe, But taking him to p and
in Atlanta. Probably not the move. So anyway, we see
him talking to some friends in Portugal. Now he's speaking Portuguese.
But to me, I was all of a sudden like,
does he have Parkinson's or does he have something wrong
with him? Because when he was on the phone, he

(25:16):
was Bobbin and weavin and I don't know what that's
his affect of When he's speaking Portuguese, he has to
move him down inside to side. So then I tried.
Then I tried to watch the rest and be like, Okay,
maybe he does have some sort of disability that they're
not mentioning. That'll be like they'll reveal it in another episode.
But he does have a giant scar on the back

(25:37):
of his head.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, uh huh, like you cannot you cannot miss it.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Okay, So more to come on that. So I guess
I don't know. I haven't watched forward. So he says,
I have no experience with jail. I just know what
I've seen on TV. Okay, say with us Matt. Matt
takes his son and Andrew to the self defense class
to help prepare him for jail, and he does pretty good.
He says, you know, he says, Andrew played football and

(26:05):
so he should he and he does fine. He does
fine with a person like and you know, like like
rehearsing it. But somebody's just coming at you. I don't
think you'd be able to flip him over your back
like that.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I just feel like he should have had him in
emmy mma, traded like for a year, yeah, to get
ready for prison, not just this one right thirty minute class.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
I agree, come on now, but that's when we first
saw as child bearing hips.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, oh yeah, and those don't lie.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
So talking to head, Matt says, I want Andrew to
become more assertive. You know, my look, which is long,
greasy here will help me fit in. But Andrew's look,
says I'm a target. And you know, he's not a fighter.
He's an intellectual. He's a man child, a little shy.

(26:56):
I mean, he could be clinically shy. I want to
break him out of his sheltered life. Well, there are
better ways, like this child like him.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
He called him, He called him a man child. He says,
who's shy?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Soft? He's not a fighter?

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I mean, oh that's shit who it is, and that's
perfectly fine. Can't look, all men can't be walking around
being thugs like that's right. No, we need men like Andrew.
I really think.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
They think Andrew's too soft, he's not a manly Well,
why don't you take Emo Emo Son?

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Oh God, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I
don't know. Maybe emos Son plays the guitar or something
like that at the church and they need him every Sunday.
I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
That's a that's a great point. He's got band practice.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Being a teacher too, like his dad just thinks he's soft.
And I feel say, I.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Feel sorry for Andrew too, and I'm hoping he's going
to come out of this being I think I'm going
back to Brazil. I'm appreciated hopefully.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
So yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
We get the black screen of death that says, after
a week of preparation, Matt and Andrew will enter the
Fulton County jail tomorrow and they say goodbye to the family.
And the mom was like, I do worry about them
a lot. A week of preparation, we should have been
preparing for months.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I as a mama, would not let my child go.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Well, this is this culture where it's like you have
to do what the man says.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
You know, well, you know how we feel about that.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
No, all right, So now we're going to get Jacqueline. Okay,
this is Jacqueline. Jacqueline is a paralegal. Jacqueline tells us
she's been robbed at gunpoint before, but she's never been
to jail. She's hoping for the best, preparing for the worst.
She works for a criminal defense law firm. Her goal

(28:55):
is to be an attorney, and this experiment is going
to help her decide if she wants to be in
the criminal defense or prosecution, and this is going to
make her a stronger person. She's doing research for her
future career. Now I kind of like this if this
is true, because she says, you know, like, I'm going
to go in there and meet these women and be like,
are these people I want to be defending because a
lot of them are unjustly Or are these people also

(29:18):
horrible and they deserve to be in here? Which you
know is probably a little bit of both. So her
boyfriend is justin. Now she is again, she's twenty seven. Okay,
so how do I get her off the screen? There
we go. Her boyfriend is justin. He's her high school sweetheart,
So they've been together for over ten years. Yeah, at seventeen,

(29:42):
she got pregnant and had a daughter, Madeline, which we
see some gorgeous pictures of this beautiful child, but they
lost her to a tragic accident. She doesn't say what.
She was treated like a criminal at the time, like
the daughter died and they immediately had to like go
talk to the police, and they had lost their child,
and she says it changed her as a person. We

(30:03):
moved into a new house, we started a new life,
and we now have a five year old named Jimma.
So at seventeen, she I don't know how old the
child was. It looked like the child was one or
under baby. And then so five years later, when she
was twenty two, she had this little girl named Jimma,
and she wants to be the best mom she can be,

(30:25):
and she says, so much has happened that I almost
felt like I don't deserve to be a mother. And
I've never left her. Leaving her will be very hard.
It's going to be very hard to adjust, and I
know being in jail is going to force me to
address things I've pushed away and I need to find
ways to forgive myself. So we don't know what happened
to the baby, but this is terrible, and yeah, I

(30:47):
don't We're not going to speculate because we don't know,
but I guess we're.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Going to find out.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
So all right, Nate and Alan are in the five hundred. Now,
Nate and Alan are not aware of each other's participate
patient okay, so again Nate, okay, Yeah, so they're not
aware of each other's participation, which is another thing I
think is really interesting that they're not aware of each other.

(31:12):
And then also the staff is not aware.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Right, that's crazy. I need somebody. I need someone to
be aware. I need everyone to be aware.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
I need somebody to be watching me. Twenty four to seven.
I don't want does production go home at night because
I don't want that.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I need them to stay. I need them to stay.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, so Nate says, I'm sizing up this new guy Alan.
I can tell Alan's a good guy. He just doesn't
know anything. On the first day he came in here
and asked me for shampoo.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I was like, bro, No, So here's the thing, Like
I wondered, did he ask Nate because Nate is the
only of the white person there, because I see, No,
it looks like they're the only two white people in
their sell block? Is so what you call it sell block? Yeah?
Everyone else seems if you think about it, if you rewind,

(32:02):
everyone else was black.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Okay, I didn't notice that. I did not notice that
they were the only two white guys.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, I think so, I was like, so, I think
maybe that's why he gravitated towards Nate. I mean, you
gravitate towards people who look like you. Yeah, you know
what I mean. So I think that's why he went
to Nate.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
For shampoo, because I think they just give him my
bars open, that's it. And then anything else like shampoo
or anything you have to buy.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Well, how you get commissary though, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
It seems like within a week they're able to get it.
You should have to suffer him. Oh shit, so he says,
He says, the first day he asked me for shampoo
and said he'd, you know, pay me back when he
got commissary. You know, he seems new and lost, and
that kind of reminds me of myself, you know. But
I'm going to look out for him because he is
making himself a target by just being a dumb looking

(32:55):
white dude. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, unfortunately for him, Like he's really got a US
cut or something like that, so he looked like a
member of the Aryan nation before you went in, Like
I think that would have done him a little bit.
I get better. They were like, okay, he's part of
some kind of a gang, so.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
He you know, like, yeah, but that's not good either.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Present like all the races stuck to each other. Is
that still true?

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Well, I don't know. I mean, I know the gang
stick with each other.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, the gang stick with each other. They go in,
they're like you the blood, you, the cryptu, the whatever
this other name of another one. We get later scary, Yeah,
Tuel scary. So that's the point, I think. So you
want to not go there, all right?

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Exactly good? Look at you, Mary Payne, look always thinking,
after all the after all these years I've learned.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
So they get ready to go in. Matt and Andrew
are getting ready to Dad and son are getting ready
to go in. They're talking to the cops. You know.
They go into this thing and they say, we have
to treat you like a real prison. They put them
in change. They put them in the cop car so
that when they take him in they look like they
really have just been arrested. And Matt says, God, Matt
is saying about his own son. God, I think Andrew

(34:18):
looks so white and privileged, He's going to be an
immediate target. Unlike me. He looks like a total dirt bag,
you know.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
And why are you making him do this?

Speaker 1 (34:26):
It's unclear, it's uncod Do you hate your son? What's happening?

Speaker 2 (34:30):
I did? I feel like he just he hates this boy,
like I want to go rescue him.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I do too. So we see them getting checked in, right,
and there's all sources of chaos and crazy people. People
are screaming they're in the check in area. It's nuts.
So but they're letting them just walk around. And so
I'm like, if you're in this area where people that
are being booked are in, don't they shouldn't they be
like handcuffed to a chair. All these people are just
walking around like.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
No, I need them to be handcuffed. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I don't know what's going on here. I don't care
for all.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
The time, in fact, too much.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
We're all in the same boat. We've all just been arrested,
but I'm going to need you to stay over there.
So now Jacqueline goes in the paralegal and she says,
I'm worried about breaking my cover. You know, she's saying
this to the cops. You know, there's drugs and things
that I'm prone to. That what Jacqueline. Jacqueline had a
drug problem. Maybe after she lost her child, maybe she developed.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
A drug problem.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Maybe so she but maybe she became an alcoholic. She says,
my cover story involves alcohol, and it is that my
boyfriend and I got into a fight and I pulled
a knife on him, and then I got into a
verbal argument with the arresting officer. And they're like, okay,
like you've got the story, but don't talk too much
about your cover story, like don't bring it up, you know,

(35:49):
just try to blend in and lay low for a
day or two. And then she says, my cover story
is believable because of the alcohol. So I guess she did.
She probably went to some kind of depression and had
a problem. And she says, you know, I know this
experience is going to force me to answer my inner
demons and thoughts. I mean, you could just got a therapy.
You could just That's what I would do, go to

(36:11):
intensive therapy to work out whatever's happening. So in the car,
the cop says, she says, oh, you know, I'm really nervous.
And the cop says, do you have fake nails? And
she looks and says yeah, And they said the inmates
may want your fake nails.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I was like, what are they going to take them
off of her and then put them on?

Speaker 2 (36:33):
That is crazy? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I was like ew. And also, don't be wearing your
fake nails, Like why are you wearing them?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Because I feel like if I were going to prison,
then I would get everything taken off, the nails, olash,
just the hair extension you because you can't have that
ship while you know, there's no one to maintain it
while you're there.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
I guess the idea is she got into a fight
with her boyfriend, they arrested her and took her so
she was just as she was.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, right, So.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
We see more craziness in the intake area of the
jail and Jacquelin's like, this is hell. This is what
hell is like. She said, the smell is god awful.
Bleach mixed with bodily fluids, and I was like, oh God.
And they have them seal up their belongings in a
bag and said, once your belongings in this bag, you
can't get it. So if you have any important papers
or anything, you've take them with you. And she's like this.

(37:26):
I felt dirty. I felt victimized because they're making her
shower and all that. You know, neked in front of her.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
To take a shower when you first go to prison.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, and you have to do it in front of everybody. Yeah,
I can. So we see Nate and he's joking around
with an inmate, and this inmate's his buddy, I guess,
because the inmate goes he called me a liar. So
I ain't going to his wedding no more. I will
go to the bachelor party because I like strippers. I
like those big videos. But now this is where I

(37:56):
put on the close caption because I thought he said
big boot holes hose, but he said, I like the
big booty hose. He said, but I'm not going to
that big fat Greek wedding because he's called me a liar.
He's called me a liar. And Nate says, now you
were lying. You can't even keep a straight face. So
this is his buddy. They have a good relation.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
They're cellmates.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
It's interesting. It's interesting because Nate seems like nobody sleeps
on his upper bunk. When you see him in there,
it looks like nobody's in there. But I felt like
that guy was.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Because his roomy got his mattress and got on the
floor because he was trying to wash to see like
if Commentsary was coming through or something.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Okay, okay, okay, So Nate says, being in another sixty days,
I'm hoping to establish more relationships and get more information.
Nate tells us a new guy has come in. His
name is Rue r O. And he goes and he
seems like a player in the game. And the funny

(38:56):
inmate is going Rue, Ru's my bodyguard. Roo won't talk.
He only knows violence, death, murdering, mayhem, and Ru is
like nodding.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
So I think that's true.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
So funny roommate is trying to get in good with Rue, right,
Ruth tells us, Now, do you think Rue kind of
looks a little bit like fifty cent?

Speaker 2 (39:17):
No?

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I did. I found him attractive. Sorry, okay, So Rue
tells us he's never been out of the hood. It's
a goal of his. But he's only ever been his
whole life in Fulton County and that's his dream, is
to get out of Fulton County. He's in there right
now for burglary. And he goes, I'm like a line

(39:40):
in the jungle. If I see somebody over there that
has food, like, I'm gonna go get it. I'm gonna
kill that person for the food. He says, prison is nothing,
and you don't even know what you would do for
food or anything to survive. Now this is when well,
I mean, they give you food, like, they don't let
you starve, right, but he just wants everyone's extra. Yeah,

(40:01):
And he's doing pull ups on the stairs and he's
like staring at the camera, and that's when I thought
he kind of looked like fifty. Maybe it's from that
video when he's doing the pull ups.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Okay, maybe that can that It has to be the
only thing that's because their faces don't look good.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
I think it was the eyes. It was the eyes.
It was at the teeth because since got the gap. Okay,
so we see Rue it looks like he's doing trash
like he's on trash duty and the guy is like
handed him a picture through the thing of like a
girl in the back or whatever, and they're chatting, and
you're like, what's this about now? Black Screen of Death,

(40:42):
which I've now just pult B S O D because
there's so many of them on here, right, Black Screen
of Death. Nate hears Rue telling Desmond I'm going to
try to extort other inmates in the pod. Okay, this
is these are Nates words. He's that Rue is now
going to try to extort other inmates in the pod.
Then we see Nate asking Desmond about it, and Desmond goes, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(41:05):
he's gonna do that. But you good, you good, don't
worry like you good, and Nate says, I know people
consider me a friend and everything, but I still have
to watch my back most definitely.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yeah, that's that's smart thinking.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Yeah. So now we see Matt and Andrew getting their
mugshots taken, the father's son getting their mugshots taken, and
Matt's like, God, this is so foreign to me. I'm
so glad my son is with me because they're doing
an intake together. And Andrew says, hawing my dad here
is like super comforting. So they do the intake with
the shower and they putting stuff in the bags, and
Andrew's like, this is awkward, Like I gotta get fully

(41:38):
naked in front of my dad. I'd rather get fully
naked in front of strangers, you know. Yeah, they do
the searches. They handcuff them together and take them down
the hall. They give them their commissary pen numbers and
they tell them don't ever tell anybody this number. And
they give them their mats and their bags of stuff
and your people going fresh meat, fresh meat.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
That's scary.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
But they take them to two separate zones areas.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
See, this should have been something that they should have
worked out beforehand because they just assumed they were going
to the exact same place. But they're not.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
So so the talk of the end, Matt says, I've
got a responsibility as a dad to keep my son
safe and put him in limited harm's way, and that
was my intention to help him grow. He asked me,
am I at risk? Or am I a danger? Could
I die? And I said absolutely not. That's not true.

(42:41):
Matt has been to what we say in our family,
the Peela Hatchie School of Drama. Matt. Okay, peel Hatchie,
you guys, if you're new, peel Hatchie is a town
in Mississippi, and at some point they had like a
Peela Hatchie School of the Arts. It's a town of like,
it's a small town. So in our family, our joke
is if you act dramatic, we say you graduate from
the Pelahashi School of Drama. So Matt has been and

(43:05):
I think he got a master's degree because he's very dramatic.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
And he decided to keep the hair. Someone told him,
you know what, you're going places with that hair, and
so he's kept the hair, which which you know that
was thirty years ago. You need to just give up
the hair.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
It's first of all, you could put it in a bun.
You could put it in a low pony. You can
part it down the middle, which is great. Yeah, great.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
He probably played Romeo at some point with the long hair.
But here's the thing. It's the grooming of it that
you need to kind of do something with.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
It's dirty. Wash, it's dirty. It's dirty, all right. So
now we have Nate Alan and Andrew All in the
five hundred zone. Okay, So Andrew will be in there
with the Allen and Nate and of course the three
of them. The three now we're the three white guys.
They don't know each other or all in the program, right. No,

(43:57):
So in the talking head, I'm just gonna call him
the colonel. He's the head of the thing, Colonel. The
colonel says, gangs are rampant in the jail. We have
strong presence of bloods and crips and gangsta disciples. Now
is that a new gang? I hadn't heard of out
gangs a new gang?

Speaker 2 (44:13):
You know, they have different gangs like in different parts.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
So I guess that's a new one. But I'll tell
you what that colonel look like. He don't do nothing
at work but talk shit and eat snacks. I'm telling you,
you don't do anything i work.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
I'm trying to think the name of the gangs that's
near me. That is uh, it's like, oh shit, I'm
trying to look it up. It's like it's like MS
seven or something gang, but they only use MS thirteen.
That's what it is, Okay. MS thirteen. That's the gang

(44:51):
near me, and they use a lot of like swords
and knives and oh they are visitiouss vicious. And when
I sat on that jury that one time several years ago,
it was a guy that was like he wasn't he
wasn't a gang member, but they were in the neighborhood
and the guy had come and like taken his gun,

(45:13):
and this guy's gun was used to kill two people.
And the guy was on he was having a jury
trial because he said he didn't know anything about it,
but it was kind of proven that he did that.
He knew that this guy that but it was like
a bully in the neighborhood, like an older man came
and took his gun and then used it to kill
two people. And the guy was a gang member. Anyway,

(45:35):
don't come and get me fa faith Mary pay stay safe. Anyway,
I've never heard of the gangster Disciples. This doesn't roll
off the tongue doesn't roll off the sign it And
so since Andrew literally knows nothing, Yeah, coming from a
Mormon from Utah, he could give them a good perspective
on Zone five hundred. So as as he's walking in there,

(45:59):
one of the guys goes, if you bring one more
white boy in here.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Their numbers are increasing by the day that's increasing.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
And he goes, I almost slap the shit out of
that guy, and he said, is he the police? Is
he the Feds? Is he a federal agent? He looks
like the FBI type. And I says, that boy's so
scared he don't see any other white people. And then
they're saying he's a copper. So as he's coming in,
they're just like he's a cop, he's an agent. Andrew says, well,

(46:29):
my first impression was, uh, it's a bit run down,
and why do we have a toilet in the middle
of the cell? I know, Andrew, did you think you're
going to the Hampton end?

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I know, but like right in the middle of the cell.
Well put me in a corner to squad.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Well, I don't, That's what I mean. It's again, you're
not supposed to be comfortable. I know, I know. Yeah,
you're right, You're right. And so a guy says to Andrew, uh,
or are you locked up for He goes fraud? We
were charged with fraud. And he says, my dad runs
a charity and we were down here for a charity
event and they accused us of like taking the donations

(47:09):
for ourselves. But like, I don't think my dad did anything,
like and I didn't do anything. I'm not even from here,
like I'm from Utah. And they go, you ain't the police.
He goes what, he goes, you ain't the police, and
he goes no.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
They asked that question as if the person will say, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, don't get me, I am the police.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
You know, here's a messed up part about it. If
someone said they were a cop killer, they would be
running the prison mm hmm, like most definitely, Like I
think that's krim daya krim.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
The thing is is that if you're in there and
somebody who comes in and they give you a story,
next time you're on the phone, you're gonna get your
friend to look that up and see if that's true.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
That is, especially if there's suspicions. Yeah, he's saying, is
Andrew the unabomber? That is what he looks like to me.
That's all I see to me, Adam, Like, that's some motherfucker.
I'm staying away from right there because I don't know.
He just looks like he carries around fucking bombs. I mean,
he just I think he's gonna do okay, personally money Keisha.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
So, Matt, the dad is going to be housed in
Zone six hundred. The colonel says, Zone six hundred houses
some older inmates that are career criminals have come and
gone for years, and they try to control the younger
guys in the pod. It can be a dangerous place
and we saw that on that other show we watched

(48:38):
where the old guys are trying to control the young guys.
He says, especially when the younger guys come in and
they're more disrespectful they come in, they upset the balance.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Right.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
So Matt says, you know, mostly I'm afraid of my
emotions and now I've realized I'm putting my son in
a dangerous situation. And as you go in, there's door
after door after door slamming behind you, and if you
have anxiety or claustrophobia, you could feel like you're being
buried alive. I'm starting to really regret this. This is
a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
How did you not think of that shit before you went?

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I don't know why didn't these people hire like what
Karen Huger did, like the prison person that helps you
understand about what prison's like before you go in so
you can when you get there, you know what you're
walking into.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Matts definitely needed that. And here we go, like, and
you still decided that this would be good for your son, right?
I don't get that part.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
And that's been in jails a lot because he was
a prison chaplain, so at least he kind of understands, yeah, yes.
So now we see Jacqueline. So she's in the van
chatting with another inmate on the way to the jail.
She's going to the South Annex of the Fulton County
Jail with the women's section, and Jacqueline says she's starting
to realize she doesn't know the facility like the other
one Soup because they've been there before. And then she

(49:58):
gets there and people like pick up the phone in
her calling and she picks up the phone and was like,
how do I call hello? And they go, what's your
PIN number? And she goes, oh, I don't have one.
So she realizes she can't call anybody. So they tell
them grab a mattress, you know, get your bags, and
they walk into the jail and you can hear all
the chaos and the screaming I'm gonna beat your ass

(50:19):
and like all these you know, craziness, right, and they
show the craziest people. They don't show like the the
nice people that could be your friend or whatever. So
then we see Andrew, Natean and Allen are in the
five hundred three white guys, and it looks like Desmond,
which now we think is Nate's roommate, is just sitting
by his door looking out. He saysn't wait, no commisary

(50:40):
because last time I missed it, you know. So I
guess what they do. They' ring commissary and they make
a pile on the table, like this is the stuff
you ordered. So you come out, you get your like
plastic laundry bag and you put your stuff in it,
and they're watching to make sure you're getting you know,
just what you bought or whatever. It's like camp kind
of and but I don't we don't know how long
they've been there, Like you said, like was he able

(51:01):
to order commissary the first day? And it came to
I thought came once a week, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
I'm used to like orange is a New Black where
they it was almost like a little store. You yes,
it got yourself. When I saw this, I'm like, what
the fuck are they doing.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I'll be interested if Jacquelines is the same or if
Jacquelines is more. But Orange is the new Black was
like a cupcake prison, right, it wasn't It was all
very open and they didn't Yeah. Yeah, So Desmond sitting
my door looking waiting on the commissary and the talking
head Nate says, I know Rue is going to start

(51:35):
pushing on people for commissary, but I've been told I'm okay.
So in the talking head, Alan, our cop friend, says,
my first commissary order was like fifty dollars for necessities.
You know, I had to buy shampoo for Nate, you know,
to replace a shampoo. And yeah, I'm definitely worried somebody's
gonna try to jump me for food. And you know,
carrying a honey bun in here is like a brick

(51:55):
of gold. So and the black screen of death that
says Alan's first commissary order is larger than what is
typical for a new inmate, and it draws the attention
of the zone.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
That's not good.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Not good. But nobody told him because Alan's like, I've
got the money, I'm just gonna go ahead and buy
all the things I need, But he should have been
buying a little by little.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
I mean, because that's what I would do. I would
buy everything that I needed. I wouldn't think about like
my order is going to be bigger than this. I mean,
how much stuff can you buy?

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I guess you could buy you want? Yeah, I mean
you could buy. We've seen on there. You could buy
like a speaker, you can buy. You can rent movies
like there's listen.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
So Alan goes in and gives Nathan shampoo and thanks him.
He pays it. You know, now, what Nate should have
said was no, no, no, no, no, you took my shampoo.
Now you gotta give me two. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
And an inmate named Timothy talks to Andrew and tells
Andrew he goes, now, some of these guys in here

(52:57):
are young as fuck, and they're gang members, So don't
surprised if people start at random fights and try to
fight with us. And Andrew's like, say, what, huh for
what reason?

Speaker 2 (53:06):
What they need to fight with us?

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Like yeah, what, we're just sitting Yeah. So the talking head,
Timothy says, the five hundred is nothing but blood gang members,
and they make people order stuff for commissary, or they
take their food.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
You know.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
I went in one time to help somebody who was
getting their food taken and the guy had a shank,
so I backed off because I'm not getting.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Stabbed over no jump food. I don't blame them, like okay.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
And then we get a talking head with another inmate
who says, if I don't have if I don't have
the money, I'll push up on you. You give me
ten dollars, I won't beat you up, Like that's just
the way.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
It is, Siria fucking bully he knows at school, like yeah,
give me your extra chips and stuff like that. Like geez.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Now there's a talking head and it's a young cute
guy who says, they say they'll bully you, but I'll
stand up for myself, like you know, and Nate says, yeah,
Nate has been in there for sixty days already. Guess yeah,
these newer guys are probably all about to get jumped.
You know.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
That's so scary.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
So over in the women's facility, we see Jacqueline. She
is entering the eye pod, which I was like, So
it's interesting because over on the men's it's like the
five hundred zone, the six hundred zone, but over in
the women's I guess they have numbers. So she's in
the eye pod. So in phase one they discovered rampant,
rampant drug activity and rampant violence in this pod. So

(54:33):
she's walking in with another girl and all their women
are like, who told you to go in that room?
Who told you to go in that room? And the
other girls like they came over the speaker and said,
mss so and so said, she seems to go in
here because they have bunk rooms with like eight women
in a room.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yes, I don't know would I want that situation or.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Like is it better or worse? That's when I'm wondering,
because you have a lot of people there, if you
can make friends. And so Jacqueline sets up her top
bunk and the one girl is like, oh my gosh,
I love Balenciaga. I need some new clothes. And the
other girl girl, and the other girl goes, my daughter

(55:13):
has some of that her baby daddy got her. Some
girls come on, now, maybe they do. Maybe we don't
know their life. Maybe they do, they baby do.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
But I just feel like that Balenciaga is gonna end
with an I instead of an A.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I like those Valenciaga's the one you wear but sucks. Okay,
So Jacqueline says, I hear some of the girls have children,
so I can relate. But I'm really having separation anxiety,
you know, realizing now that I'm not gonna be able
to use the phone.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Back to Matt. Back to Matt and the six hundred
old guy. Matt in the six hundred more chat about
his son and worrying about him. Blah blah blah. This
is gonna be his ongoing thing, and you.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Need to keep remembering he put his child in this situation.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
That's right, that's right. And Matt chats with an inmate,
so it's it seems to be a white guy with dreads.
But then I don't want to say he's a white
guy with dreads, but he looks to be like a
white guy with dreads.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
I don't think he was a white guy with dreads.
I think it was something else. He has a little
something in them. He was cute.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
He was cute.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
He was a white mixed with cute.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
That's what he was. And and he's like, oh man,
my hair sometimes does dreads, Like I don't mean for
it too. I was like this because you don't wash
your fucking hair, and it Matt's up because you're disgusting.
It's not dreads that's called your hairs dirty. And Matt says, yeah,
I'm down for a big charge, man, but I'm going
to fight it. And dreadlight guy goes, it's not something weird,

(56:45):
is it, which I love because he's like, don't sit
with me.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
If it's something weird, exactly, you cannot sit here. I
don't have for weirdness, Like I can't do it. So
you know, you murdered someone and you can sit here,
but uh, any strange things with cats or anything like that,
I don't want you sitting over here.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Did you do something to a kid or something? Man,
you cannot sit here.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Yeah, if it's something with a kid, get out of here,
get out of here. Play around with that shit.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
And he says, no, no, it's fraud. The guy's like, oh, okay, okay,
that's fine. So then we hear prayer call, prayer call,
prayer call, and a bunch of guys go and stand
on one section and they have a prayer circle. And
I don't know if everybody gets to pray, but Matt
it takes over and says, you know, he appreciates his
new brothers and they're in there together, and I was like, already, brothers, okay,

(57:41):
and he says, you know, go into the prayer circle.
Really gave me an end. And some of them are
really kind, and I want to see the good in
these people. But I can't stop thinking on my son.
Oh god, this just reminded me Keisha of you saying
on Love is Blind that Megan has made Lucas diabetes
her whole personality. And I was like, Matt is making

(58:04):
him putting his own son in jail his whole personality.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
He really is, and I was sick of it already.
We're only one episode in.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
You guys, Today's Monday. The new Love is Blind episodes
ten and eleven will drop on Wednesday. You guys, the
minute those episodes drop on your Netflix, skip work, do
whatever you have to do, because those two episodes are unbelievable. Yeah, unbelievable.
You guys are gonna die. And then make sure you
listen to our recaps of course, please, okay, okay? Now,

(58:33):
Andrew Allen and Nate in the five hundred Rue was
walking around going, I'm gonna push up on anybody I
want to. I'll push up on anybody. He's announcing it.
He says, I'm gonna push up on the white boys.
And it is not good to be white and not
in the five hundred.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
But got there because geez.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Alan is like, I feel like Ru is gonna jump
me for my commissary. And I wonder if they call
him because he jumps around a lot like a kangaroo.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
No, I just think that's his outside name, Okay, but
I'd like to know why outside they need to call
him Debo because when he fucking comes around and starts
stealing people. You've probably never seen the movie.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Friday, right, Well, remember Friday. We only know the one
line about every time I'm in the kitchen, you're in
the kitchen, eat my goddamn food.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Yeah, this is another one. This is like the neighborhood
bully is Devo. Oh okay, Zbo comes around, you hide
all your shit because okay, steal it? So okay. That
reminds me of Debo.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Okay. So we see Ru running, running, and he goes
into where Alan is because are these your magazines? And
he goes, no, I don't know you can have it,
you can have the magazine. Yeah, And Alan's like, I'm
not about to get stabbed over this foolishes like he
can have it.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
So then another guy with short dreads named Trey tells Rue,
this shows though you can push up on anybody, you won't.
You can't push up on Monty. You can't push up
on Trey. And say you can't push up on Monty
like screen to Death inmate, Trey stands up for himself
and his friend Monty.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Okay, so why why why why can nothing be done
to Monty.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
I don't know if Monty is Trey's trying to protect
him because he's not right. I don't know. Maybe he's
a little special. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Okay, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
So Rue says, I'll push up on you if I
want to, and I'll swing on you next time. Go
in the room. It don't matter. So Trey says, you're
not going to take nothing from me, bro and they
walk upstairs together. Now it seems like they go and
they go into the room and they have a they
have a fistfight, and then another.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Guy boo boom, boom boom.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
And then you hear Monty say leave this shit alone, man, like,
leave it alone. Yeah, the talking head out. But again,
because if people don't look, the CEOs don't notice that
two people go missing and then one person stands outside
the door to guard. You know, they got a whole system.
So if was talking head, Alan says, Ru is a

(01:01:06):
big dude, and Trey is like skin and bones, and
you gotta respect Trey because he like took that beating
and he didn't snitch. But then Monty decided he need
to protect Trey, right, so Ru went into Monty cell
and took this dude's commissary and another email. Another inmate
is yelling, why are you on that bullshit?

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
And now because they're all screaming, a CEO comes up
and goes what's going on? And somebody says the other
inmate that we don't see. He says he's trying to
take the rest of my ship, bro, And Monty says,
they're about to jump me, and Alan says, and even
I know that's not good. You don't snitch because you
can't snitch on somebody you get murdered for that year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Yep, sure, so.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Monty says Monte. Monty says to the CEO Ru was
trying to swipe my shit, and the inmates are all like,
it's very important.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Not to snitch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
You're gonna get hurt, You're gonna get killed. Yep Alan
goes the invates did not appreciate that stitching, and all
the gangs stick together.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Thanks Alan for letting us know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Yeah, we got it. Black Screen of death officers will
remove Monty and Rue from the zone. So I don't
know if they're removed forever and they have to go
to different zones or what, or if they're coming back,
it's gonna be a problem, or even if one of
them comes back, it's gonna be a problem with the
other people.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
I agree, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Jacqueline's in the South Annex, and she says the hardest
thing to know is like when will I eat? When
will I shower? You know, I saw the phones, but
I don't know how to use them. I don't know
what the process is. You're given nothing, no information, no instructions, which.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
That's bad, Like I feel like they should at least
tell them, like, look, this is how we do things.
This is how you get your pin for this, your
pin for that. This is the eating schedule. Yeah, you
need it. I mean not like a hotel. You know
what I'm saying, Like when you go in, they tell
you everything. But I mean, damn, at least let the
girl know when she'll be able to call home.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Yeah, yeah, I'm out. But why didn't she feel like
she could just walk up to the CEO station and go, hey,
nobody's told me anything. Can you give me information about
when do we eat? When do we shower? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
But she doesn't ask the one girl on family locked up,
She's like, I need chapstick. I need this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
I have asked for my CarMax and my chap set
I'm going to need when she kept going, I needna
sporing for my lips. Yeah, We're like, yes, you'll get
it when you get it. So she asked a CEO
when am I going to get a pin? And she goes, oh,
you didn't get one, and she goes no, She goes
how long had you been here? And she goes, oh, I
got here yesterday or whatever today and she goes, well,

(01:03:45):
sometimes it takes a minute. And that's all she tells her.
I need to know what a minute is, right, But yeah,
So now she walks around and she puts her arms
behind her head like this, and black Screen of Death
says Jacqueline has given the sign of distress that she
needs to meet with producers.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
And the sound of the stress is written all over
her face. She didn't even need to do that part,
like we see it. I'm like, oh shit, she ain't
gonna make it sixty days.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
So the production king team comes into the area and
production's asking her, oh, okay, so you're a new person.
You're okay. So we're gonna do Jacqueline and then we're
gonna get the other new girl, but we'll do Jacqueline first.
So they pull her into the production area. She goes
into the interview area and she is like crying and hyperventilating,
and she's saying she feels like she might pass out.

(01:04:30):
She needs to hear from her family, and she goes,
I haven't had a panic attack in eight years, but
I can feel that it's coming. I haven't had a
panic attack since I lost my daughter. And she's hyperventilating
and she's like, I can't do this, I can't do this.
I can't do this. Oh boy, okay, this season on
for this season on sixty days. In season four four
more participants enter, they will be pushed to their limits.

(01:04:53):
We see a lot of fighting. We see some participants
will crack, but one will break their cover and we
see more fighting, and then we see somebody sets a fire.
So that's not.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Great love to look forward to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Okay, all right, now that we've gotten to the end,
are you still mad at Kimberly?

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Now that we have talked about it and debriefed together, yes,
I feel better. But after watching the show, I'm like
my anxiety is high, Like I don't feel safe in
my own home. Yeah, Like, am I gonna have nightmares today?
But now that we have talked about it together, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Kimberly, Okay, I think we're gonna be able to do it.
And we're gonna be able to do it. Well, I
feel positive about this experience for us.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
And because in my mind I was like, I'm not
a quitter, but yes I am a quitter because we
did quit family lock up. I mean they quit on
us first.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
They made they made it very easy to quit. They
really did. Like, yeah, they did give us much at all.
Like I mean even to get a response to like
you have to send an owl? Yeah, oh to get
a response. It's just like, Okay, what the fuck it's
an email, so yeah, you know, yeah, I feel we
don't have to depend on them. We just go straight

(01:06:14):
to Hulu for this. That's right, we got what we need.
But before we go, I do need you because this
is on the free feed right, yes, yes, to tell
about the birthday giveaway.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Okay, guys, our birthday giveaway. So everybody go to my
Instagram or Keisha's Instagram, Pink Shade Pod or the liber
Lounge Wakisha and that's where you can find the information.
So we have a birthday giveaway. Kisha and I share
a birthday. If you've been living under a rock, it's us,
Kim Kardashian, Kerry Fisher, rip So and Amber Rose. So. Yes,

(01:06:47):
so we share a birthday and for our birthdays, we're
doing a giveaway. It's gonna be like a Libra Lounge
T shirt, a Pink Shade T shirt. And yes, we
will ask you your sizes. We won't just send you
an extra small. I think I'm gonna give a personal thing.
We've got like stickers, we've got fun stuff, but we're
going it's our birthday. You win. However, you have to
post a birthday message to the both of us on

(01:07:08):
your social media and tag us. Then we'll repost us.
You have to make sure you're following us all that
jazz and uh, that's what's doing. And then there's going
to be some Ingrid always figures this out. I don't
know how she gets the people, then she does like it. It
puts the names and the thing and the draws and
then that's the winner. And there's one winner. So on winter,
you better get on it. You better start preparing your

(01:07:30):
birthday message for us, because we like our birthdays to
be celebrated by the people.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Yeah. Like I said that, one person has said the
fact that you have to wish them a happy happy birthday?
Is it most libra shit that I've ever heard. Oho,
she's kind of right. It is very libra of us.
But you know, we are who we are. We can't
help it. So we are who we are.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
And I think that the birthday this year is like
on a Tuesday. It's not even on a fun day. Yeah,
that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
I just bought my birthday dinner dress.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
You did, okay?

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Amazon, And guys, I do have an Amazon store if
you want to go shopping some of my looks go there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
What I was thinking, Keisha, A lot of people that
I follow that it pops up like things I got
on Amazon, and I follow a lot of these people
and then I follow them on Amazon and then I
follow their lt K. You know, okay, like like to
know accounts, and so I feel like that should be
your next step because you say, my top is Amazon,

(01:08:28):
my pants are Amazon, dah D, I got this machine whatever,
But then you don't tag the items, do you know
what I mean? I think I think you need to
move into that realm of influencing your outfits. Okay, okay,
I send you some examples. Okay, everybody, make sure you're
following Keisha so you can get her her new LTK

(01:08:50):
that she's going to be starting, and make sure following me.
And again we are covering Keisha and I are covering
Love Is Over on Pink Shade Prime that comes out
on Wednesday's Love This Blind is really good and when
Love Is Blind is Over, guys, Keisha and I are
going to start a rewatch of Welcome to Platfill. People
are very excited about this, very exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
With my first time watching, it'll be my first time
sitting down and actually watching an episode.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
It's gonna be incredible because, like I said, I know
everything about it. You know nothing about it, and that's
what's it's gonna be. It's gonna be podcast gold. I'm
sure we're gonna win all the podcast awards for it.
We should, we should, or you should win an award
for being forced to watch it. Okay, everybody, that's it
and I'll see you tomorrow with ninety Day h e

(01:09:40):
A with Kimberly. Okay, bye bye