1047 - 60 Days In (s4e2) "Shank Anxiety" with Keisha - Pink Shade

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's mugshot Monday. I'm
here with Keisha.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Are you ready, guys, I'm so ready. I like this show.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Actually, okay, we're getting into it now, we're getting into it.
The first episode just showed so many physical fights that
we were like, we can't do this, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
It was, it was. It was shocking to us.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
But now they didn't show as many this week, and
I think maybe at the beginning they were just showing
so many like quick clips of things. Yes that now
we're getting into the stories of people, which I like.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, I like. I like more story than fish. It's
not that I don't like the fights. It's that I
know these people are locked up. It's still like half
to be around the person they just had a fight with,
and yeah that's a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah you getting your car and drive away?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah no, no, no, or even go upstairs to your
own room, like on Joscelyn's Cabaret when the girls get
us the fights. They've got a mansion. They could go
anywhere else and like cool off or alast, go jump
in the pool or whatever. But these people go back
to this small cell.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, and the girls are in a cell with seven.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I cannot do that. I don't I don't know. I
don't understand why it's like that. For the girls.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
It's awful, that's all really is.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
I wouldn't be able to sleep. What if you had
to do? You know, you have to poop in front
of eight other people because it's eight of them in
a room.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Do you think that if you have to poop, you're
like that, you like make a pact with everybody, Like
I have to poop, but everybody's like, Okay, I'll leave.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
But then there's gonna be that one person I ain't leaving.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
True, true, I think I think you gotta make a
packed with everybody, like you guys, I have to poop
and then and you.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Know there's no like hidden background where you can go
peep it pooping. Yeah, yeah, and the smell and they
don't even have like the spray.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
You definitely don't have a match.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
You got nothing. And I'm just thinking about myself when
I'm in there. It is something I don't want to
hear about that. So real spray is needed, like they
unless they've got like a kick ass ventilator system, I
doubt that they do. No, that's just almost inhumane. But

(02:37):
then again.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
It's again we need to keep remembering that this is
not a Marriott that we're talking about. This is prison
and you don't want to go there.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, this is the Motel six.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I don't even know. I would say, if you're local here,
you would know. It's the moon in where they you know,
sometimes find dead bodies.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
It's it's okay. Yeah. Yeah, we have one of those
in Dickerson off of five seventeen and it is a
danger zone. So yeah, that's what prison would be like
if for you know, staying somewhere somewhere away from home.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yes, because I would take a day's in. I'll take
a days in.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, days in. Yeah, if I have to.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, I'd prefer a Hampton Inn.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Oh, most definitely.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I do love a Hampton or a holiday and Express
is pretty.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Nice holiday and Expresses are got it going on. Yeah, David,
David so funny.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
He was telling me he was at a work conference
in Louisville, Kentucky last week, and he's telling me he goes,
you know, and because he's had this pancreatitis journey, he's
trying to really change the way he eats, so he
goes of course they had this, that and the other,
and I could have made myself like an egg sausage biscuit,
but I didn't. I got the yogurt with the granola.

(03:55):
And he's telling me all this. Now, I do love
yogurt and granola, but there's a.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's not over a biscuit. I want misk it.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
What if they have like crispy bacon, I wouldn't be
able to it.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, No, that yogurt would be like a morning snack.
Like he's close to launch. I'm a little hungry.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
So he's telling me about it, and he like what
he got and stuff. He goes and you know, they
have the little yogurts and the little containers and they
had the granola separate. He goes and they didn't have
any bowls for the yogurt, and we haven't when I
tell you, this conversation was so boring and went on
for ten minutes. And I go, I don't understand why
you need a bowl like it. It's in a self
it's self contained the hole. Yeah, he goes, but then

(04:35):
you can't put the granola in and get the right ratio.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, I give I, okay, I do get what you're saying, yeah,
but I totally get what he's saying as well, it's
not enough room. And then when you got to stare
it around like your granola's falling off and off. Yes,
so yeah, I get it. I get it.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I was like, he just stuck with the biscuit, but
I'm trying to question. He's like, we have to start
eating a Mediterranean diet. I was like, I know.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I mean, listen, a Mediterranean A Mediterranean diet is not bad,
but I don't think I would want it all the time. No,
And I'm gonna like change every single thing in my
house like it's it's it's difficult. But I tell you,
anytime we stay at a hotel, one day is reserved
for me to spend the whole day in the hotel,
in the bed doing nothing.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
If it's a nice hotel.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, like James knows, I'm like, there's one day, like,
don't bother me here, I'm gonna enjoy it. I'm gonna
this full day. I'm going to enjoy the full pay
of it, you know what I mean? Yes, yeah, you
pay for a hotel and you're gone the majority of
the times like that. True, I're gonna get my money's worth.
I'm standing in this bed all goddamn day.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yes, you know, we're going to a coust for our anniversary.
And the hotel emailed me yesterday and was like, oh,
we're I'm looking forward to welcoming you. I would like
to know if you're celebrating anything special, and if you
need help with spot appointments or if you need help
with restaurant resermes. It's a lot, not like a big place.
And I was like, yes, as a matter of fact,
we are celebrated, that's all day. But we're gonna get

(06:04):
something for free.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Y'all are going to get something on one else's bed,
Like there's gonna be a heart shape something in bed.
Oh god, yeah. And then y'all make it like a
discount to like, I don't know, there're.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
May upgrade the room or something.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Maybe they will. Don't expect too too much.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
I know I'm always excited about the upgrade.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah yeah, expect the lower level, and then when the
big level comes, you appreciate a little bit more. Like
I wasn't even expecting.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
I know, I'm excited about that, but I'm the same way.
I'm like, especially if I'm not going to work the
whole time. Like if I'm not going to do yeah,
any recordings or anything, then you're like, now what do
I do? I guess I could watch something that I
that I've been meaning to watch for two years.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I guess, yeah, exactly, it's the perfect time.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yes, I want to watch the Murder on Murders. Inger's
been watching it.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's on Hulu.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
It says it's really good with Patricia Arquette, and.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
I don't know. Now, I haven't watched that one yet.
I watched the documentary of aut Yes, I listen to
every podcast, every documentary, watch the trial.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
You know me when I go in, When I go
in with a murder, I.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Go go in deep. Yeah, you go way deeper than
I ever go. I know.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
But if you have any questions, I'm here for you.
With the Murder's But I think I was like, maybe
I'll watch that on the plane when I'm flying to LA.
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Speaker 3 (10:14):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Okay, well we're not.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Here to talk about that. Let's talk about this show now.
I've decided to take the notes in the style of
like a ninety day fiance, where I'm going to do
one inmate.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
At a time at a time, okay, because.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
They jump back and forth, but you get just like
one little scene and then you're back into the other inmate,
and I'm like, I need it to be separated. So
that's the way I'm doing it. So this is sixty days.
In season four, episode two, Shank anxiety. Okay, oh yeah,
I got nervous just hearing that.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Woo.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, so we're gonna start with the new guy. The
new guy is Johnny. Johnny tells us that, yeah, when
he was younger, he formed a gang, he shot at people.
He's stayed app to people, and he knew what was wrong,
but he just said, fuck it, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
There's something kind of hot about that.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
He was cute and then you see him at the
table with his wife and his kids, and you're like, Okay, look,
he did change his life totally.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Because she I didn't see a tattoo or anything on
her like saying that she used to be about that life.
Mm hmm. Yeah. I found him to be very handsome
as well.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I think he's cute.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, And he says he's doing the program because he
knows there's kids out there who were who were lost
and he can show them there's a better life. I'm like,
how are you going to show them there's a better
life when you're also in prison?

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Like what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I think like when he gets out, he'll be able
to tell the tale of prison life and how you
don't want this. This is what happened to me. Yeah,
he sounds like he probably has aspirations to open up
like a youth center or something. Uh huh, Yeah, that's
what he kind of kind of how he came off. Well,
somebody like that is good.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Who could be like I've been on all sides of that,
you know.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
So he says he grew up in a tough neighborhood.
We meet his brother in law, Raymond. They met each
other one in the streets when they were young. Looks
like they're collecting trash in their old neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
No, they're no gloves. They were freaking up trash with
no gloves on Mary Payne.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
That's kind of gross.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
That's very gross. That's kind of gross. Yeah, I guess
he's getting ready for the prisons day. He's going to
go ahead and like get all those anybody's and anybody's. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Community, So we see we see him looking at pictures
from his old days of him like with guns in
his hand.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
And all this.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'm like, wow, I don't get rid of those pictures.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Right, And he said, you know, I was about that life.
And he says you know, I was seventeen when I
had my first son, and I thought I was a
good dad.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
You did.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
I mean, gangsters do because they provide their kids with
everything that they want, So in their eyes, they are Yeah,
probably better than the fall that he had.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Maybe, And he says, but of course my son started
to living the same life that I had done. And
he got involved in a drug deal gone wrong and
it was charged worth murder. So he killed somebody. I mean,
he got involved in a drug deal gone wrong and
he was charged with murder. How about he got involved
in a drug deal gone wrong and killed somebody?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
He kills So, I mean, you know, it's your kid.
You know, when it's your kid, you gotta kind of
spruce it up. Their little sugar on it.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
You know, we're not gonna say killed, We're gonna say
murder sounds better. Yeah he had done Yeah, and he says,
you know, I was involved in some of the same things,
but I never got caught.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Do you think that Johnny killed somebody?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Uh? Okay, think about what he said. I heard it.
He did not say I'm an ex gang member. He
said I started the gang. So I'm thinking he's probably
killed a person. Or two in his life, he was
ahead of the exactly. He's the tony soprano of the gang.

(14:04):
You got to kill. You have to kill a couple
of people for people to respect you enough to become
part of your gang.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Hello, Johnny, And he goes, you know, I can't you know, basically,
like I can't judge my son because I just never
got caught. And he says, but I'm doing this to
understand what my son is going through. I would really
like to know the story in between, Like, yeah, what's
the story in between of how you decided to turn
your life around and how did you become this like

(14:33):
family guy sitting at the table with your wife Nancy,
you know, with.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
The casserole dish right in the middle of the table
for dinner.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, and it looks like he's got a teenage son
now and a daughter, right.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
So Johnny goes to get handcuffed and put in and
he said, oh, you know, he's been arrested before and stuff.
So it's kind of a little bit of PTSD because
he tried, he tried so hard not to like stay
locked up, and he you know, he's changed his life,
and it is a little PTSD I guess he also
can't say yeah, I killed some people, because then they
could take because there's no statute of limitations on her.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
I look, yeah, I'm talking it through.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I would not have even gone as far as to say, yeah,
I did the same stuff. I just get caught. Well
are you trying to get caught now? Because now people
made cold case files. Someone goes back, he said too much.
So uh.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
The colonel says Johnny will be a great asset since
he doesn't have since he sorry, he will be a
great asset because he does have past experience with gangs.
So he goes to intake and he goes, I'm looking around.
I'm realizing I'm the only Hispanic guy here, and so
to me, that wouldn't to me, it seems like there's

(15:54):
all types in there. So they're going to immediately point
him out because he's Hispanic. I didn't even think about that. Yeah,
but they are really staring at him.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
A big time.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, And he's talking about some guy. He's like, where
are you from? And he says he's from Arizona And
he says, you know, I could see all the guys
are looking at me because I'm Hispanic. I do not
feel safe, and you hear some people yelling and calling
him Mexican. Yeah, and he goes, you know, I know
I'm probably gonna have to fight, but it is what
it is, Oh the anxiety.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
But he doesn't care. Coruct like, literally, you're fighting because
you're a different race from everyone else, even though we're
all in the same fucking prison. This was wild.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
And also, he says, so he gets assigned to the
six hundred, which is for the older guys, and he
goes in. He's like it's dead quiet, Like there's I
don't know why it was so quiet. Was everybody in
the yard? Like why was it so quiet because normally
everybody's screaming.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Uh, well, we haven't heard anyone screaming whenever they show
Matt and he's in the same war. Because there's older people,
they look. The older we get, we don't have. The
older we get, the less we could be involved in.
Loud sounds, just unnecessary sounds.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, yes, yeah, all the time.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
This was like stop screaming, stop screaming. Anna is just
screaming because she's like singing, and I'm like stop, I
can't you're yelling.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
You're yelling at the dog. Or like stop screaming.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
So she has a voice of an angel Mary pay Okay,
all right, So he gets uh goes into.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
A room and it's a bottom bunk and there's nobody
in there, and he's like, wow, like I'm in here
like by myself, I don't know where everybody is. It's lonely,
got nobody to talk to. And they just keep showing
him from these cameras from the corner.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
That it's just like.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
And I guess every cell has a camera in it, right,
because they couldn't just put it in the ones with
these or is that that or is that part of
the film crew that's the documentary documentary?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Because I don't feel like in regular prison they have
a camera in each room. They should uh yeah, But
then again, we've seen the we've seen all of them
have a big fight where there's tons of cameras and
the ce CEOs don't come out. They could see you,
damn well, they're not got to watch like each individual
little cell, so that'd be a waste of money.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
So they come out, everybody gets to come out into
the main area and everybody's looking at him. They're asking
him where he's from. He says Arizona, and they're like what,
you know what? And then what are you in here for?
He says armed robbery, And he says, you know, when
you say armed robbery, that puts a little respect on
your name because now they know you're not in there

(18:37):
for writing by checks or you know whatever. And probably
he's in Probably he's saying that because he can. Like
he's like, okay, I got a story I could tell this. Yeah,
it would be you.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Could have went in there and said I'm here for
murder and he would have some stories to tell. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
So and then he's telling some guys, oh it was crazy.
My gang was the twenty fourth Street, but we got
along with the bloods and the crips and whatever.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
We just wore black.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
And they're like, oh that's cool. And so, yeah, Johnny's
gonna be just fine. I think he's gonna be okay
as well.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
All right, now we meet another new girl. It's Stephanie.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Okay, Now Stephanie, they keep putting under her chiron Siblings Incarcerated.
So I was like, does she own a company called
Siblings incarcerat I could not understand it, but now I
get she has some siblings that have been incarcerated. Sometimes
I'm just not firing on all cylinders.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
I mean, most of the time you're pretty on it,
but you most is definitely more on it. When you
read Stephanie's name and the reason for her prison, stay.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, I didn't put that together that that was what
that means.

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It's so funny.

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Speaker 3 (22:03):
You got to do your.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Lipsick And she says she has two siblings who have
been incarcerated. She says, and my sister's never told me
anything about it. You know, she just gets out and
goes right back in, so she never even has time.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
To tell me.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Shouldn't say why her siblings have been incarcerated, she says.
She says, I grew up in the suburbs with no crime,
and my brother and sister when they moved out, they
chose to move into these bad areas with poverty, and
I got everything I wanted and.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
I was spoiled.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
I was like, well, then your siblings don't want to
talk to you because they fucking hate you.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Well, And I was kind of confused. I was thinking, like,
was it a situation where they were, like they're half siblings,
and maybe they lived with the dad or with their
biological mom and ate the poor part of town. I
was like somewhere there was like a piece kind of
missing from her story about the siblings.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
I didn't understand, Like my brother and sister grow up
in this like fancy suburbia area and they turn eighteen,
they decide to move to a bad part of town.
Like I didn't get it. And also I don't know
what town she's in. They never say where she's from.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
They didn't, Nope.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
So she says, you know, I never experienced the street
life or the ghetto or crime or hearing gunshots, you know.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
And you know, my brother says that I talk white
because I live in the suburbs.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
But you know, I don't know what I'm saying. Like,
so it's like if he grew up in the sub
I think there's like they don't live there all the
time when they were growing up. You know what I'm saying.
She says, Oh, you kind of like a white girl.
You grew up in the suburbs, like he didn't grow
up in the suburbs as well.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
But she says she grew up with a brother and
sister and then when they moved out, they chose this
bad area and that was their fault. So we need
more information, Yeah, we do. And she is, I mean,
they chose to live in the bad area. That's not
my problem. And she says she's driving her car and
she says, so this is the area where the white
people live, but most of my family live in the

(24:05):
inner city, like and not in a good part of town.
So again we don't understand. Okay, we don't understand.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Okay, yeah, she's she She's said a lot of words,
but not all of them are connecting, right, I don't
get it.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Are these half siblings that had to move with another parent, Like,
that's what I'm saying, And they show getting they chose
that way and why because the mom was terrible. We
see later maybe, and she goes today, I'm going to
meet my mom and an Applebee's, which they tried to
blur out, but we recognized it.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
I went to eat Applebee's.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
But you can recognize that logo.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
If they had it blurred were like, come on, Applebee's
is like, do not put us in this show. Apple,
we do not want to be a part of it.
So she goes, I'm going to have lunch with my
mom today to tell her what I'm doing. And she
she goes, you know, my mom thinks I'm frail and
weak and can't handle things on my own. And so
I wonder if mom moved and the kids moved with

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mom and she stayed like with dad and the face dad.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
And a stepmom. Maybe, so I just don't think they
were full time together, the siblings all the.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Time, because she said when they got older, they chose
to move out. So maybe when they got to be sixteen,
they could choose which parents to live with.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Maybe maybe maybe why was she.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, so she says, my mom thinks I'm frail and
weak and can't handle things on my own, and so
I'm going to show her I'm going to go to prison.
So she goes, Mom, I volunteered to enter a program
where I'm going to put myself in jail, and I'm
doing it to better understand, you know, my brother and sister.
And her mom's like, no, you know you're not. She goes, yeah,
I am and she goes, Mom, I'm doing it because

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I want to like understand where they've come from. And
the mom is immediately packing up her food. She's like,
I'm taking these chicken and she says, why would you
do something like that? This is so stupid, and Stephanie
keeps talking. She goes, just shut up, and she packs
up her shit and she leaves. She takes her free
Applebee's food and gets the fuck out of her.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
And she says, you pay for the check. Well, you
pay for the check or you know, an I ain't
paying nothing, and I ain't leaving a tip either. Yeah.
She gets the fuck up out of there.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
She's like, I this is paid for, Okay, I'm getting
lunch and dinner.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Give me a to go box.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I just feel like if she wants to relate to
her siblings better, like I don't know, Counselee session, Like,
I just feel like there's so many other steps before
you have to actually go to prison.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, yeah, she could.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
They could. She could go visit every weekend and let's talk,
tell me the stories. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
So Stephanie goes, well, that went just as I expected,
and she says it's hard to go to jail with
no support. But I only you know, I only have
the support of my boyfriend, Matthew. We've been together four
and a half years. And he looks so much like
Andrew that's also in prison, just like white boy with glasses,

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you know.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, he little, he's I mean, at least Andrew's got
those child very hips in right now, a little bit
of a broad shoulder. But this guy right here, he's like, babe,
you go on to prison. I'm gonna say, right here,
in this apartment, I will take care of the cat. Yeah,
I will see you when you get home.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
She's telling Matthew how to clean the house. She's like,
cleaning the mirror. He goes, I have to clean the
mirror every day. She's like, like every other day, clean
the mirror.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
I was like, men, do get the mirror? Cart meaning
of it now?

Speaker 1 (27:42):
So they chat about, you know, the food she gets,
like Dominoes, like Deep Dish pizza, Like right before she leaves,
I was like, that's your last meal.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
That's it. You know. She keeps claiming this lifestyle that
she lives and we've yet to really see it. She
was eating Domino's pizza on a coffee table, so which,
by the way, nothing wrong with that, but it's not
so booebus. But not when you're yeah that when you're
trying to portray yourself as this bougie bougie I'm so
much better than person, like, yeah, give me something like

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have on a Tiffany's bracelet while you could in a
picture something.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Oh no, oh my gosh, so she says. So they're
talking about the food and she's like, yeah, I'm sure
it'll be gross. I've heard it's called slop. It's disgusting.
Sir're talking ahead, she goes, you know, I'm a strong person.
I think I'm gonna be able to get through this. No,
he says, so sorry. Her boyfriend Matthew says, she's a
strong person. She can kind of get She's like, listen,

(28:37):
she's whipping my ass about the fucking mirror, So like, right,
she can get through anything, Okay.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
And they're talking ahead.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
She goes, I'm doing this to get closer to my
siblings so I can tell them that I understand them
and where they're coming from.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
It's just her siblings are going to laugh their asses
off when she tells them about this.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Her doing this so to the community center, volunteer where
they live and see if you can.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
It's to get some check, yes, yes, not doing something
where you actually get a paycheck for doing it.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Bingo.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
So she goes to meet with the officers to get handcuffed,
and she says, you know, I'm liberal and I'm preppy,
and I have no idea how I'm gonna blend in.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
What does liberal have to do with it?

Speaker 1 (29:21):
You think all the prisoners are like super like mega conservative?

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Like were you talking about I did it, like I said.
She says, lots of words, but they never really quite
connect because I have no idea why she said that.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, she says, the hardest part will be being around
all the females. I don't have a lot of female friends.
I don't like drama. I don't want to be involved
in drama. Interesting, right, I think.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Along with a lot of other things that she says
that maybe Stephanie's not that fucking likable in the real world.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
That's what I'm thinking too. Her mom definitely doesn't like her.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Oh no, why would she leave? Is like we you
wouldn't be a SCHELLAR would have been there for three
hours talking this out and me trying to tell her
out of doing this experiment, not just getting my food
and getting the fuck up out of there. Like her
mom didn't even say goodbye.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Oh no, she said I've got dinner, gotta go. So
in the cop car, the cop is asking her about
her fears and she goes, really, it's like all using
the same toilet, like that's my biggest Yeah, like eh yeah.
So they go to intake and she's like, oh my god,
it's so dirty, it's so depressing. You know, this is

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getting real, and she says being cuffed feels like being
a slave and they can just tell you what to do.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I feel like, uh, that's a little bit different than
being a slave.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah, you're in a situation where you can leave voluntarily.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, you've you've most definitely got some rights. Yeah that
was a little bit extreme, but okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Now, as she and this other girl are handcuffed together
and they're walking through, we hear one inmate has gone
completely nuts and yelling about the cameras, going if you're
gonna fiel.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Me, you're gonna give me a check?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
I don't want to be on motherfucking TV, you pussy
as cracker?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Whoa what should I use that one with James every
now and then he makes me I like this ship
on six. I mean it was a pusser, but yet,
like some of the stuff that they say surprises me.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I'm like, well, I'm always rewinding trying because they bleep
it out and then they put it on the bottom
like peep. Yeah, you're like, oh, okay, now I guessed
at what they said.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
I assume that's what they said, because not a lot
of us. That's what she said. Yeah, a lot of
words here with the p SO and the talking.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
She goes, yeah, I'm scared, yeah, scared. So they see
them in this tiny van transporting them, and so it's
like four women on once. It looks like there's like
a wall, and then there's four women on the other side.
Because the women on the other side are all yelling
like your hair smells well, you've got boh, and they're
screaming at each other.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
But the four on her so are pretty calm. Well
of them was like you smell like ass like your
smell is. That made me gag because there's nothing you
can do. It's not like you can get up and
go to another part of the truck or whatever the
hell they.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Ran like, no, you're change to another person.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Oh gotta go, gotta go.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Home really bad.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
And I guess that's why they make them take a
shower right when they get there.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, I always wondered why. But some of them look
like they haven't showered in a minute.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, especially if they've been arrested for something. They're coming
like right off the streets or I mean terrible.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
So she goes, she grabs all her stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
They give her her mat, you know, her bag of whatever,
and they put her in her cell and you know,
they immediately the girls are all like right on her
and they're like, yeah, what's your name? And then they're
pulling at her hair. The one girl goes, what kind
of hair is this?

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Can you imagine what they would think of my hair? Mary?
You would wake up bald. They would have taken all
that They was scalpy. They was scalpy. Yes, like this
hair is worth a lot of money in here, like
just the Yeah, that would be fascinating to them, especially
if they've been there for a long time and they
someone comes in there with a head full of hair extensions. Well,

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I was trying to figure out.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I was like, of course, you know, Keisha We've discussed
this a lot. We have you know, wig corn, and
we discuss wigs, and we discussed extensions and all this.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
I thought that was her real hair.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
I didn't know. No, it's hair extensions, okay, but it's
into her hair.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah. But I feel like because I think I saw
some leve out, Like I don't think she has like
short hair. I think she's got a good amount of
her own hair, yeah, and just added the extra in there,
at least for what she claims. She said, how longer
her real hair is?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, because on the top you could see there's like
a braid here, and I was like maybe, yeah. So
I was fascinated by that. So her cover story is
she is in there for possession of marijuana, which at
three point five so I guess that's a lot. But
they caught her because she was speeding and she was

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on her way to Florida for vacation. She's like and
they're like, ah, you didn't even get to see the ocean.
And she says she's getting She says she's getting nervous
because the women are asking so many questions about her,
and she does worry about what might happen when she
goes to sleep, Well, they're gonna take your hair when
you're sleeping, girl.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I mean, you're justice it spent to wake up with
a lot less weight on your head because they're about
to get that hair.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
And then we see somebody get up in the middle
of the night who's wearing giant underwear and goes over
to the other girl and is like holding her leg
up and saying her peakwork don't stink, And I was like,
what's going on here?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
She said that ethyl don't stink because you know, we
call it ethyl. Now on for your sake, thank you ethyl,
and that ethyl don't stink. And I'm like, well, it
shouldn't stink.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
But it's like but she goes and she's like the
one girl's laying on her bed and she puts her
leg up and I'm like, why are we doing this?

Speaker 2 (35:04):
What's going on? But I was like, what was the
other girl doing to that girl? While she was standing
up there? We couldn't see.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
That's kind of what I was wondering.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
I think a little something was happening, but the other
girls were all talking at the same time. They don't care.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Okay, this is.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
There's a promisey, you just gotta do what you gotta do. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
So Stephanie talks to a girl named Lyric. Okay, so
Lyric is like, so, what is your job? And so
they were coming friendly and she goes, oh, it's a
pharmacy tech. And she goes, you know it's a good
job because you could still you could steal drugs. She
was like, but not a lot, by the way, No
you can't. It's extremely regulating, very hard.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
To steal the drugs. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, you can't just like grab a couple of annas.
That shit has counted now.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
So Lyric goes, what are you gonna give me your hair?
And she goes, I've never She goes, I don't. I've
never taken it out.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Like she's like, I don't know how to take it out.
I've never taken it out.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Right, She probably has her stylis do it for. Yeah,
it was interesting.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
She's like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
And then they're asking her how long her real hair
is and she says down on her shoulders basically.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
And she then.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Tells the story because she has a big scar on
her arm and she says she went through a plate
glass window and then she went to stop herself and
had a scar on her arm. And then she tells
another story about she has a scar on her stomach
from a hernia surgery.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
And you're talking to it.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
She goes, this is great. I, for the first time
ever have friends and I think they really like me.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
And here's the thing, I think they really like her too. Yeah.
I mean she's made friends with the big dog, because
Lyric is the big dog, and Lyrics seems to be
quite fascinated by her. Yeah. Now in the middle of
the night, don't be if you wake up and Lyric
is trying to spun you. But hey, you gotta do

(36:57):
what you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Okay, now we get Jacqueline. Okay, remember last time we
saw Jaqueline, she had put her arms behind her head
to say she's in distress. It's been one day and
she's telling them I might have a panic attack. I
think I'm going to pass out, and they're like, it's okay,
we're gonna help you. We'll help you get in touch
with your daughter. She's like, I was told I could call,
and I can't call. And so they placed a call

(37:23):
to Justin, her boyfriend, and she's crying, and she's saying,
I'm just so worried about you, you and Jimma, and
he goes, you signed up for this. I know you
can do it. What you're doing is important. Everything is
fine here with Jemma. Everything is all taken care of.
We're fine. We've got this handled while you're there.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
He was a little bit too enthusiastic about her, saying
I think in the back of it, and he's like,
I told my side, bitch, we had sixty days together
before you came home, and I'll be down if you're
about to make me have to renig on that, Like, no,
this is my time for me and my other boot
stay in there.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
So she says, I feel like quitting, but I'm not
going to. I'm gonna I'm gonna give it another day.
So then she says, I realized I just take it
day by day. I gotta like not get overwhelmed with
the stuff. And then you know, Jimma gets on the
phone and she is able to say hello to her
and stuff. She pulls herself together.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
So she's yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
So then we see a bunch of her bunk mates
chatting and arguing, and then we see them all talking
about her stomach and her shirt and her butt because
she's got on like a sports spra right, and when
she leans back, you know she's got abs. And then
she stands up and they're talking about her ass, and
then we get lots of clips of inmates talking about
oh yeah you gay for say whatever, like you're in here,

(38:45):
you get lonely and whatever. Jacqueline says like, I wouldn't care,
like if they're talking about this stuff, and it was
like a basic gym class, but this is sexual and
I don't feel comfortable with it. I feel like they're
preying on me. I'm getting kind of worried. You know,
well a shirt on, but a shirt on would be
the first.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, let's start there. Yeah hot, it's probably hot in there.
Yeah that's true too.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
They're asking her like, let's let's see your boobs, and
she's like no, there's a camera, like no, and so
basically they tell her to go stand under the camera
and black screen of death says. An inmate pulls Jacqueline's
shirt down to reveal her breasts and the girls are like,
oh that.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Shit was hot.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Oh your boobs are so cute, and they're.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
All talking about her boobs and oh my god, she's
so uncomfortable, like, Okay, I've just been violated, but I
guess I'll just roll with it. You don't have a choice.
You got to roll with it. Yep. So she says, you.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Know, I'm having a hard time fitting in, and we
see the women talking and she tells them that she's
in for assault on her boyfriend. This one girl, Christina,
is asking a lot of questions and she's really high
eyeing her a lot, and she goes, she goes, I
had a knife, and she goes, did you stab him?

Speaker 2 (40:05):
She goes no, and she goes, if you didn't stab him,
then why are you in? Never aggravated assault? Right, and
she goes, oh.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
He says I hit him and that you know, I
did pull the knife on him and he has some scratches,
like it's all bullshit.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
I don't know why they charged me with that. So
then they're asking why did you move from Rice Street?
We've heard Rice Street a lot a lot.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, So I'm asked, sure what that is? Like that
must big jail.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Local jail, And then they get moved to big jail,
all right, and when why what was that you know
what went and all this, and she's like, I don't know,
it was like yesterday and Jacqueline says, all the questions
and then then morning to see my boobs is you know,
mentally and physically exhausting, Like I'm overwhelmed, and they keep
asking out these questions.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, because you I mean, you've only got unless you
really have thought about every hole that could be in
your story. Yeah, kind of fucked when they put you
on the spotlight. Yeah, oh shit, because these are current
criminals that she's in there with, right right.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, So Stephanie and Jacqueline are now together out in
the pod area and they're realizing each other might be fake. Now,
Jacqueline says she realized Stephanie might be fake because she
said she was a pharmacy technician, but she had had
a felony, right, And Jacqueline's like that, I work in
a law firm, and I know you can't be a

(41:28):
pharmacy tech if you've had a felony. And then when
Stephanie asked Jacqueline her last name, she like obviously looked
at her bracelet and said Kennedy.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
So yeah, there was a rule that like you couldn't
let the other person know.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
I didn't either, but they figured it out with a
one yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
So they're realizing each other, you know, we're there in
the program. And Jacqueline says, you know, I did that
on purpose, looking at my bracelet. Yeah, to sort of
let her know. And I, you know, I want to
have somebody to feel safe with. So black screen to Death,
Jacqueline and Stephanie confirm each other's participation in the program,
and so they're like, okay, okay, I was thinking like

(42:15):
I shouldn't ask you, but then I asked you, and
then like, hey, like all right, it's good. We can
rely on each other. Yeah, and yes, Jacqueline says, you know,
Jacqueline needs that, she needs it. Stephanie doesn't need it.
She's fit right on.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
I don't think she needs it. She surprisingly it is
fitting in quite well.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Jacqueline goes, this is good, but I am worried that
other people will notice, like we're different.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Well, only you were different. Only you.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
So now we see all the women are yelling at
each other. We're just like screamy, screamy, screaming from the
top to the bottom all over. And the two that
are mad at each other are Lyric remember that as
Stephanie's best friend who wants her hair and Raven, and
Raven is upstairs, and Jacqueline says, I've, you know, come
to figure out that some of the upstairs in the

(43:00):
downstairs have a problem with each other. And I don't
know what to do because like all the roommates are
supposed to stick together.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
So yeah, I don't know about all that sticking together.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, but Jacqueline's in a different room than Stephanie. Sephanie's
in the room with Lyric. So and the black screen
to death, we see Raven from upstairs recently disrespected one
of lyrics friends, so we don't know what that means.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Okay, no, well it's enough to fight, there's the reason,
enough to buy So Lyric who's downstairs, ravens upstairs. They're screamings, screaming, scream.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
By blah blah blah blah, and the guard is literally
just like standing there in the middle watching them yelling,
and this huge like it's like now groups are gathering,
yelling in groups, and it's going to be a fight,
and the guard is doing nothing.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Well, so yeah, if I were to guard, I'd be
pretty fucking scared and like, I don't want to get
caught in the middle of this shit. But then again,
why not call for backup?

Speaker 3 (44:04):
There's we'd later we see like three guards.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
So Lyric is continuing to yell up and so they
they the guard goes up and puts the upstairs people
in their room and they lock them in, and then
after a couple of minutes, the guard just pops the
door open and lots them back.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
So Jacqueline's on the phone with her boyfriend and she's like, yeah,
I don't know what's going on, Like everybody's yelling and
they're gonna fight. He's like, wait are they fighting? She goes, yep,
here it goes they're gonna fight. And the funniest thing
is Jacquline's like, okay, I gotta go. I guess we're
gonna fight down Here's.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
So Jacqueline's like me, I don't want to be in
the drama, but I want to know one hundred and
four percent about the drama. So she's like, I want
to watch. I mean, there's no other entertainment, so you
might as well watch the day fight.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, So, and I want to know what it's about.
Who disrespected who said wow.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
So and we see the fight upstairs and Ephanie runs
upstairs and you see Sephanie just like trying to look
to see what's going on.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Well she she ran up there with the rest of
her salemates, kind of like what you're supposed to do.
I'd be like, oh no, I don't want to get
my glass's brooken. Guy, next time. I got you next.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Time, next time, next time, next time, unless I'm asleep,
and then don't.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Bother me, bother me.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
So the guards you're just watching, and we see Jacqueline going,
why won't you stop? Then you're just allowing the ship
to happen to the guards, and Stephanie goes, god, you know,
lucky for me, Lyric really likes me because I've seen
her get mad, you know, and then she can fight. Yeah,
but they were doing a lot of that holding the
hair and then with the other hand, girl, you.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Know, yeah, well you got a hold the bitch a
little bit, keep her still, so you know, look if you.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Book, you know, Sephanie says, that was exciting, Sean was
that was fun?

Speaker 3 (45:54):
And Sephanie goes, first, girl, right, check.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Yes, Stephanie's I thinking, now I see why my sister
likes so much. It kept coming back. If this is
fun fun, I don't know. I think she may sign
up for an extra sixty days. Gonna be like Nate.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, all right, now we got in the six hundred
zone zone six.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
We got Matt.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Matt has not taken a shower. He is getting greasier
and greasier by the minute.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
I so gross, Well wash his hair, but he started
out gross. He was gross on the outside and his
hair was greasy on the outside. I know, just even
with soap, just soap.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
If they've only given you a bar soap, use that soap.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Get some of the grease. Gave it all off. Oh
it's bad and it's thinning, and just it doesn't look
it's not giving what he wants it to give. No,
he's a neutral fault, so.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Matt says. You know, I consider myself a strong guy.
You know, I was a prison chaplain for years and
I never got any closure for that. And you know,
I'm going back to jail to regain the faith I
had in inmates, to see them as humans and not
as the thing they did. And I know being here
is gonna make me a better person. I think I
can make a difference in the communities.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Okay, okay, I think at.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Some point he is gonna bug somebody just enough.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Uh. It almost happened on this episode. Yeah, well, I
don't know. He was talking out one guy and it
was bugging the fuck out of me. I would have
been like, dude, get out of here. You guys to
get up, out of here, Get out of here. I'd enough.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
So now we see him preaching to some inmate about Jesus,
and he's like, you know what you should do when
you get out of you got to find yourself a
good Bible preaching pastor. And the guy's like, and my
note here is I can't tell if that guy is
interested in this Jesus talk or not.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
He's not. No, he was just like, when is this fuck?
We're gonna get out of my cell. Like it wasn't
even matt cell, it was someone else's cell.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
He went in to be like, Hey, here's somebody I'm
gonna what's the word I'm looking to for the mentor
to Yeah, Oh, I'm gonna testify. I'm gonna give my testimony.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, the guy wasn't interested.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Now Matt's getting a roommate. His name is Lawrence, and
Lawrence is being transferred from another zone, which means probably
some shit went down in another zone.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yeap, usually not a good thing.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
And he comes in and Matt goes, are you okay
with the top bunk?

Speaker 2 (48:22):
And Lauren goes.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Lawrence goes not really, man, like, you know, back hurts,
and Matt goes, well, I'm old, so like my back
really hurts, and he goes yeah. He goes, man, I
got shot three times, and and Matt's like, okay, well
you can have it three times. And then he says, yeah,
the reason I'm here is like, man, it was crazy,

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like I got in the fight with this guy and
like I popped him whatever it was self defense, self defense.
And Matt goes, yeah, yeah, sounds like self defense. Sounds
like you were in the right. And Matt goes, it's
nice to have a SELLI. He likes Lawrence.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Their buddy's the guy's been shot three times.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
See two. I mean. As the episode goes on, they
seem to get along. Yeah quite well, yeah, okay, all right,
And I said, Matt, who's hair now just looks like
wet noodles?

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Girl says, He goes, god, it.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Seems like a Lawrence. Lawrence has really been around. He's
been in the system for years. He's hardcore. But during lockdown,
these two continue to bond. They're just chatting it up
and they talk about how dirty the cella is. They're
gonna sweep it, They're gonna mop it in the minute
the doors pop open, they run out so they can
be the first to get the broom and the mop.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
And Lawrence is all about cleanliness. Cleanliness is next to godliness.
He's like, you said you swept this thing, but you
didn't this gross. Yeah, that sounds like me after I
said I cleaned up, and everyone's like where.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Matt says, it's nice to have somebody to talk to.
I got a kick out of him. Lawrence is fun.
I like Lawrence.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Okay, I hope it lasts me too.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Matt goes, you know, I've been building relationships with the inmates.
I'm at the top of my game. I'm at a
comfort zone here, all right, Matt, Okay, Matt, all right.
So he talks to a guy who says he just
came from the five hundred zone and the reason he
came over he because I got jumped over there. Man,
and we see this poor guy getting jumped, and I
just read I don't want.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
To see this. I don't want to see this. This guy's just.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Sitting at like the lunch table and just like ten
guys jump on him and drag him and just beat
the shit out of him.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
That's scary. Yeah, And they keep beating the shit out
of him and kicking him.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Kicking him, kicking.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, nobody's interviewing.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
So he says, you know, I God, I'm just trying
to figure out a way to I could talk to Andrew,
my son.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Not being able to talk to him is preying on
my mind. And I see other people like talking through
that door over there, Like I wonder if I'd be
able to talk to that door. So he goes over
and trying to talk to the door, and somebody on
the other side is like fucking with him, going.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
What'd you say?

Speaker 3 (50:51):
San Diego?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
What huh? And just laughing. Andrew sounds so much like
san Diego.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
So Matt is talking to his roommate Lawrence, and he's like,
this is a scary place, man, like being here scary,
And Lawrence goes, oh, man, the seventh floor, that's a
real live zoo up there. That's like drugs and weapons.
And now, now Andrew was not on the seventh floor.
But Matthew's very worried about this. He's like, oh my god,

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he goes. You know, I'm panics. Now I'm starting to
panic because I'm so worried about my son. And then
of course he's like, what have I done? I've taken
my son out of Utah and brought him to a
jail in Fulton County. This conversation with Lawrence really made
me panic, like, what's going to happen to my son?

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I mean, you have so much time to think about
that kind of shit before y'all signed up for the program. Look,
matt you could have signed up for the program alone. Yeah,
to drive your child into the situation because I think
you think your child may be gay.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
I think so too.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah, So he pushes the panic button that is in everything,
and somebody is supposed to come immediately, and nobody comes.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
We see him sitting there for a long time. Now,
I did wonder that's scary. That's scary.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
I did wonder if you pressed it more than once,
or just that one time, I'd be like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Wait, wait, wait, wait, yes, and then yelling out of
the cell. Did anyone hear that? Tha? He gaped it
like that's scary that they didn't come.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
They didn't come, nobody came, So he does the distress
signal behind his head. Now it's obviously nighttime. It's like
in the middle of the night, right, So what would
be the reason that production would go in there to
talk to him in the middle of the night, Like
they have to come up with some real good reason.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Well, I felt like I felt like the story that
he was sick, okay, or was panicky or something like that.
So they pulled him.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Out, but he pressed the button and nobody came, so
he had to do the distress signal. So production can't then,
oh and tell the CEOs, hey, he did a distress
signal because CEOs are not supposed to know.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Oh, the CEOs. But the CEOs don't know. The CEOs
don't know. Why did I have missed that part?

Speaker 1 (53:12):
No, the CEOs don't know, the ms don't know, nobody.
The only person that knows is the colonel.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
I thought the CEOs knew.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
No, because they're there to squeal on the CEOs too.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
They're there to show like I pres c came, there
were flights and the c Yeah, there were fights and
the CEOs did nothing.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah that that makes perfect sense. Now okay, yeah, got it.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
So my question is what did production go and tell
the CEO's like, hey, we just decided we want to
talk to Matt in the middle of the night.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Oh okay, I see.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Now you know they're gonna have to pull other people
out in the middle of the night too.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Yep, gotta do like more than one interview. Mmmm. Those
prisoners are not gonna be pretty happy about being pulled
out in the middle of the night. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
So he goes in with production and he's saying like,
I'm so worried about Andrew. Yes, I completely regret doing this.
And he goes and now I know if I push
that button, no one's going to help me, and I
need to know, and this is what he says. He
says this in like a like a Clint Eastwood like
like in a Western.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
He looked.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
He's like, I need to know if my son pushes
that button, that help would be instantaneous, and if he
doesn't get relief in that regard, my relief will be instantaneous.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
What are you talking about you can't instantly do shit,
you're in prisons.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
And then they're like, so you're gonna leave, and he goes, no,
I'm not leaving.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I'm just talking like he's so full of shit. The
toilet is fucking jealous, Like he just really is full
of it.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
He's so dramatic, he's very dry.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
I bet his wife is quite glad that he's he's gone.
She's a break.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
She's like, I don't even care that I've got these
six adult children in this house, you know, or seven
and they got emo kids over there with band practice.
All right, I've been of a real about that. Did
you see it about the Emo kid? And why didn't
they take the Emo kid?

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Yes? I did, yes, yes, yes, I got a couple
of really good shots at the Emo kid. Okay, that
is so funny.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
All right, Over to Andrew in the five hundred zone.
He says, you know, I'm getting worried about my dad
because my dad gets very worried and very stressed, and
we've seen yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Also he's really dramatic. Have you guys notice is really dramatic.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
And he goes, you know, I do get worried because
I keep getting questioned about my cover story, and they
keep asking me. He's like, I don't know. I don't
think my dad stole that money, but I don't know.
And the guys are like, just tell us, you fox
some barnyard animals. Just tell us, just tell us why
the real reason you're here, and they're laughing. He's like, no,
I did what? But he goes, but it's been fine.

(55:53):
Now he and Alan are talking. Of course they're unaware
of each other. Yes, and Andrew goes, I don't know
that deal with that Alan guy is he's asking me
a lot of questions, Like he's really pressing me with
a lot of questions.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Weird. Alan's weird.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Alan is weird. He's a weird, right, weird guy.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
I would not want to get pulled over by Alan
because I'd be like, are you okay? Because you don't
seem okay? Can we get another officer to coup pull
me over? Because I feel like really uncomfortable with you.
There's just something weird about him. I agree, Oh no,
and the ears don't help. No, it's the ears. So

(56:31):
I'm talking head.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Alan says, Andrew looks very different and he seems to
be pausing when I'm asking him questions and he's answering,
and his story.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Is a perfect cover story.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
So I want to see if he's who I think
he is, right, Okay. In the talking Head, we see
Andrew go, I don't know why that guy's asking me
so many questions, like back off the get away from me, dude.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
So Andrew's drop that's what they do.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
So Adri who's talking to Timothy, his cellmate, and he
talking about, you know, various jails Timothy's been in. He goes,
this is the worst one, Like this is the worst one.
Fulton County Jail is literally hell on earth. So at
least that's good to know that other jails aren't quite
as bad.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah, maybe Matt should have picked another jail for his
son to go into instead of like one of the
worst ones in the country.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
When you sign up for the show, you get what
you get and you don't throw with it. Okay, So Andrew.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Says, you know, Timothy gets on my nerves in a
lot of different ways. That guy was obnoxious like that.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
That would be my luck to be stuck with a
guy that is like burping in my face and flipping
flicking me. And because it looks like Andrew's like on
his little iPad thing like watching something or whatever. Oh, guys,
and Andrew goes. You know, I did a two year mission,
and I've got a lot of patience and a lot
of empathy for other people.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
But Timothy is a lot.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
He's pushing it like I would want to fight Timothy,
like seriously, like he was really bad.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
I just I just did. I covered a date line
with Kimberly on her show Date with Dateline.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
And wait a minute, so you were on a date
with Dateline. I am texting that him right now and
say I heard that. Oh yeah, you just wait to
We're good. She's gonna get it.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Katie is on a two week break, so she had Jake,
who's their co host sometimes last week, and then she
had me this week, and then I think next week
they're off.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
So anyway you can text her.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
So I mean, we could be the kkkse.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
The kkks And that's a real unfortunate title.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
The case.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
The case is better, yeah, but she says, but there
was somebody on there that was so fucking annoying and
they were like and before his before his trial, he
did get shanked and killed in prison for what he
was known for, which was talking too much. There's a
guy on the episode who literally gets murdered because he

(59:09):
just in prison because he wouldn't shot the fuck up.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Do you think it was Timothy? Was his name Timothy?
His name man something else? Okay, caushaul something so who?

Speaker 1 (59:19):
He said he was a neffle from nepaul A prince.
He was from nepaul Oh, okay, spoiler alert.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
He wasn't to figure that one all right.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Now we get another new person, and this is Angelaie, right, Angelais.
I even wrote down sounds like andlay. I write down
sounds like Andelay, Angela Lay.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Now I'm wondering because they have made us think that
it's Angelay that's going to be the one that's gonna
get real used to prison.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
But now I'm wondering if it's Stephanie Stephanie yeah, mm hmm,
because I don't know which one it is. I know,
I mean neither. I was thinking the same thing because
Tiffany is like living it up. Nobody dm us and
tell us nobody, DMA no, please don't, don't. We don't
want any spoilers. Don't tell us, don't and we know
you guys get excited to like tell us things. We

(01:00:19):
get it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Don't tell us, we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
You guys want to see like our like real reaction
to the story. Yes, don't, don't tell us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Don't tell us who it is because we haven't. We're
watching it one by one and we don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Okay, Yes, thanks for saying that. Yeah, we love you, guys,
We love you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
On Jelaie Okay, so she is twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
She's an electrician. She lives in Texas. Y. You know,
if I ever saw on Jelai and she said, guess
what my job is, I would guess electrician, would you
I would think I would think personal trainer. No, she
wasn't that buff or like I would think she worked
on a construction site. Yeah, she's got that vibe about her.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
She says she has a close family member who was
in and out of jail and she saw how the
the Tristan the system treated that person, and she goes,
you know, I think I'm going to get along with
my cell mates because I kind of look like them.
I even like shaved my head up on the side,
you know, to look more.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
She looks like a lyric Yeah, yeah, she looks like
a badass. Yeah. She goes to a tattoo parlor.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
She's talking about how to like finish up her sleeve
and stuff, and she says, I had a rough childhood.
I bounced between houses, my mom went through a lot.
I always had to be the strong one for my mom,
for the family. And now, really my friends are my family.
And we see her go to a dinner with her
friends and she says, I've always been very open about

(01:01:42):
my sexuality. I'm not going to hide it when I'm
in there, and uh, all my friends, you know, are
basically scared of me. And we see her friends like, yeah,
she's aggressive, she's tough. I wouldn't want to fight her. Yeah,
I'm terrified, And then she in her docket heads she says,
you know, I don't know what's going to happen in there,
but I'm something right now. I ain't gonna be nobody's bitch.

(01:02:03):
Nobody's gonna fuck me over, and I have I have
a real problem with authority. And I think I'm gonna
have more problems with the CEOs than the inmates. We're
barely gonna see the CEOs, so it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Yeah, it ain't gonna be no problems, right, there're no
beefing with the CEOs because they don't give a fu.
Which are there's there for a paycheck? Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
So she goes to get handcuffed like everybody does, and
she was like, no, I'm really ready. I've got in
my mindset like I'm ready to go. But we see
a flashback to well, we don't know what her story is,
but she says a flashback to when they go to
the class to get their story of the classroom, and
the colonel says, in the women's zones, they tend to
women tend to immediately try to create family, you know,

(01:02:45):
which makes sense, and that'll be good for you to
get in with a group of people, but don't get
involved in any of their shenanigans. Oh boy, which we
don't know. So Angula, it's gonna take them in. Angelai says,
I'm in my persona, I'm embracing it. I'm no longer Angela,

(01:03:07):
I'm now an inmate. And they take her into intake
and she's like badass, like looking around stuff. I was like, Okay,
she's gonna be good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Yeah. You kind of wonder if she gonna end up
being the softy, like really all about the girl's backstories
and trying to be like a mentor or something like that.
But by the end of this season, I feel like
Stephanie's gonna be fucking everybody in her cell block. This
is the She is acting like she's at in a
sorority house right now, like this is the best time

(01:03:37):
of her life. She's she is thriving, and I've never
had girlfriends. I'm like, girl, this is These are not
the kind of friends you want to call girlfriends. But
you know, go off. You know she's loving this, She's
not so.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Jacqueline and Stephanie have now clocked each other. I wonder
if they'll clock Angela too.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
I don't think so. I don't think they are.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Yeah, because she doesn't look as so different than the
other endmates. Yeah, Okay, now we're going to go to
Alan Alan in Zone five hundred. He is talking about
a sandwich. He's like, it's supposed to be boloney, but
I don't think it is. I didn't even like Blooney
in the real world, much less whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
This is supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Oh, you know, I've been here a week. My roommate
Nick has been great. He's so welcoming. He's helped me,
he's helped me with the rules and everything. But Nick,
he was in and out quick he left.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Why did Nick have to go? I know, mm hmm.
Like sometimes when they say that person has to go,
I'm like, like, go to like another prison, go to
another ward or like released.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Or is it now it's time for them to go
to court and then after that they'll go to like
a real prison or Okay, Well we didn't get any
information where Nick went, so Alan got to move to
the bottom bunk, so that was good, and he goes,
I'm without a cell mate now, and so he's talking
to the camera in the corner, which is funny. And
also when we saw Matt when he was, you know,

(01:05:07):
doing it before he did the distress signal, he was
like pretending in the middle of his cell. He was
like screaming, like like like a Shawshank redemption moment. Ah,
Like he's screaming, so it would all be on camera
because he's so dramatic.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
He just not like, no, Matt, I don't get it.
Can you imagine him being a preacher? No, he's so annoying.
He would be just like he'd have the only members
of his congregation would be like his seventeen kids, right right,
no one else could deal with them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Okay, So Alan's on the bottom bunk and he's without
a cell mat. He's talking to the camera and he says,
you know, it can mess with your mind when you
get locked when they locked you down like this and
you're in here by yourself, and he says, you know,
we've been in lockdown for twenty hours, and he doesn't
know why, and they tell them biill, Yeah, they had
to go on lockdowns. They're short of CEOs, so they
can't let people out.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Damn. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
So because they're short of CEOs, they all get locked
in their their rooms for twenty hours.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
That's if you don't if you don't have a tablet.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Yeah, and then I don't know if they allow them,
how they let them charge the tablets, because they definitely
don't allow us.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Yeah, that's true too. So you wonder how a certain
time on that tablet.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
And I wonder if then you take your tablet over
to the CEO and they charge it and you come
back and get it in two hours or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Well, if they're counting on the CEOs to charge your shit,
they're never gonna get a charge on their tablets because
the CEO don't. They're like, let me, let me catch
up on Gilmore Girls. I want to catch up on
some back episodes. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
So Alan says, you know, I'm beginning to like change
my thoughts on arresting people for these small things, because
I wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Wish this life on anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
All right, So a new inmate is coming into room
with Alan. Allen's excited to get somebody to talk to,
and he walks in and he goes, what's your name?
He goes in the joint they call me Pancho, and
he goes, okay, okay, show okay, and he goes, yeah,
this is my second time. He was at Rice Street
or something, and Alan says, yeah, this is my first

(01:07:21):
time being here. Mm hmmm, because before I was in
my apartment everything was fine.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
So yeah, with my wife or fiance and my newborn
baby that I don't remember Alan's backstory.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Do we know Alan's backstory?

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Yeah, he's a cop, he's I can't remember if he's
married or if it's his fiance, and he's gonna baby. Yeah,
I don't think we heard it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
I don't think we did either.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
But I've got the notes, but I don't feel like
going back and looking because somebody will tell us. But
I really don't think I think you and I would
remember together.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
No, I don't think he had a backstory.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
And when I say I like going back and looking,
which means I would have to pause these notes, go
to the other notes, and I don't want to have
to pause the podcast to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
I can't remember either, because they just called him chicken legs.
They said he had a mullet. Yeah, okay, I'm drawing
a blank. I'll go look at the notes from the
last episode. If I figure it out, i'll text you, okay.
So Poncho comes in. He says, this is the second
time being there, and Alan goes, oh, really, it's my
first time here. And he's asking what he's in for,

(01:08:32):
and he goes, I'm in here for two fta's failure
to appears. They got me on some bullshit. He goes, listen,
here's what happened. My buddy was playing with a gun
and accidentally shot and killed himself right in the heart.
And he goes, and I was there and they ran
my name, and I had a warrant out and then.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
He's had failure to appear anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
He warrants were out for failure to here on something else.
And then he's near his buddy who accidentally shot himself
in the heart with a gun.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
And then the way that he goes, if it weren't
for my friends shooting himself, I wouldn't even be here.
She's dead, Okay, no sympathy for the dead, I see, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
So then we see Alan and his roommate talking about
what we're about to find out, which is Carl breaks
Nate's tablet and Alan's like, wow, this is crazy. Half
the dorm are ready to take up for Nate and attack.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
This is crazy. How was these guys love Nate? I know,
I'm sort I think is Nate community dick or something
like that? No, they never people would be jealous, So
I mean they feel the me to protect like Nate
is their boy. I know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
I think the ain's just a good guy who never
fucks with anybody, never tries to take your food, never
tries to like get on anybody's bad.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Side, you know, And they love his ass. They love Nate.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
So then we see Alan's roommate stands up on a
chair and it's like, I'm gonna try to take this
light fixture down. Alan's like why, he goes cuz you
could use it to make a shank. He's like huh,
and then he pulls out the plastic cup that they
used to put their toothbrushes in and starts tearing it
apart to make a shank. Scary, and Alan's like what

(01:10:27):
are you doing? And Pancho goes, come on, Alan, think
like a criminal. And Alan's like, I'm not going down
for somebody else's broken shit, man, Like i don't want
to get any more time at it. I'm staying out
of it. And Pancha's like, no, you're not. You're not
staying out of anything that's scary. And Al's like, well,
like you better do. Like he's basically threatening him, like

(01:10:48):
if you don't do something, like I'm gonna do something
to you. Yeah, And Pancho, who's been there one day,
was like, don't you want to stay alive? Alan's like huh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Alic's like wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Here for about a week, there's really been no threats.
You coming here one day. Now we're talking about shaking
people I'm sorry to think you might be the problem. Pancho, God,
you're the problem. And here's the thing. Why is Poncho
even involved? He just got there. He doesn't even know Nate.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
I know, he didn't know anybody. Okay, so now we're
at Nate. Okay, here's where the problem happens.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Carl, who they call big Swol because he is buff.
He is buff.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
They're asking it, carl Is. Carl says to Nate, where's
your tablet? I I wrote down that. Carl said, can
I use your tablet? But later they're saying no, he
never said, he just said where is it?

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Where is it?

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
And Nate says it's locked in myself. So then Carl
goes and presses the button and says, can you open
five o six?

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Just real quick, just real quick? And they do it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
They opened and they know five oh six is not
his cell.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
I know that's fucking scary. And they open it up
and he goes in and takes it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Yeah, and then the talking head Carl goes, I don't know,
is the law of the jungle man the weaker or
preyed upon like whatever?

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
So Nate goes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
So they're interchangeably using the word tablet and using the
word iPad and so, and the talking head Nate goes,
he went in and took my iPad And that's not right,
that's not right, he said. You know, but what if
it wasn't a tablet, Like what if we were really
beefing and he had a shank and came in, nobody
cames what he was doing and going out, that would
be on the guards. If he just asked them to

(01:12:40):
open my cell and I was younger, yeah, and he goes,
and that would be on the guards. So we'd have
a real problem.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
I can't believe they did that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
I can't believe they're just like, oh, sure, we'll just
press the button.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
I'll let you go off. Then yeah. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
So now we see it, literally says gang members. These
other gang members, I guess the ones that are against Car,
but they love Nate, love Nate, and they're asking Nate
about like what happened, and they're.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Like, we'll go get it back for you. We'll go
get it back for you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
And he goes like, don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
We're good.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
And we see Carl holding that iPad just dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Yeah, listen to his music. Yes, he's got his.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Music and he's just dancing around and he's like, oh
my god, like, I know I'm going to have to
retaliate on this. And he's talking to another guy who goes,
if you said it's in your room, he should not
have gone in there and taken it, right. So Nate
goes and says, Carl, where's my tablet? And Carl goes,
I slid it under your door, and so he's like,

(01:13:39):
all right, So now that all the doors are popped
back open, they all get to go back in, and
Nate picks it up and goes, it's broken, like it shattered.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
The whole thing is shattered.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Like what an asshole. You stole it, then you broke it,
then you return it. You should have just kept it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Nate goes, not only did he steal it, he broke
it and then slid it under my door broken, and
so like he's showing it to his roommate. Yeah, so
everybody's not walking by looking at him.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
They want to know what happened. M hm hm, And
everybody's like, what's he gonna do? What's he gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
And he goes, you know, I'm gonna lose respect if
I don't address it, and they're all like, man, you
know you're getting charged two hundred dollars for that, and
then you got to get another one, right right. So
Carl is like, hell, no, I didn't break it. I
listened to one song and then I slid it back
under his door. And the other guy's like, man, he
broke his tablet. He's like, no, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
I did not break it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Now there's an inmate that has like a facial piercing
here and he says Carl acts like he didn't do it.
He's lying, And we all know Nate's gonna have to
beat his ass up in some way somehow. So we
all got to ride with Nate.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Oh this is scary because poor Nate is in such distress.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
He's like, I know what I mean, I don't want
to have to kick any of us. As they're like, no,
you're going to We're gonna, we're gonna have your back,
and we got we got shanks and you're like what
the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Like he's like, okay, no one needs to get killed
because the screen is broken. You know what, actually, guys,
is my fault. I didn't purchase purchase a screen protector.
It's my fault. We're gonna let this go, and it's
all right. Everyone just calmed down. But like these people
are ready to go because they already hate Big Swollen.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Anyway, do you think Carl broke it on purpose or
broke it on accent? It's like, oh fuck, and just
slid it back under the door and be like I.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Don't know what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Why would he break his shit on purpose?

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
You know, if because it's an asshole, why would he
go steal it on purpose? Right? Right? Because you wanted
to hear a song? Man, just wonder that one song.
You know how it is when we have that one
song in your head and you just kind of listen
to it, you get all the fills.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Yeah, I guess that's what was going on with Big
Swoll that day. So Nate's like, man, you break my
ship and you don't even say anything. Let's the fuck's up, shit, man,
And Desmond's like, I'm gonna have to pocus pocus bitch
as up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Fuck that bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
And Date's like no, no, no, no, no, Desmon goes no, man,
this is penitentiary rules and effect, and it goes. I'm
not trying to get me or you or anybody any
more time, right. Desmond goes that ship's lame was hell, Like,
come on, bro, what's the plan.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
What we're gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
Like they're like yeah, yeah, yeah, they're like we ride
at down, we ride it down. Nick, you're in charge.
And he's like, I don't care that. Yeah yeah, right,
so I'm talking to that. Desmond goes, I won't. I'm
wanna help you fight, but you gotta stand up for
yourself like he won't stand up for himself. And and
you don't want them to think they could try you

(01:16:34):
because one dude tries you and then another dude tries you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
It's yeah, it's it's like such a weird physician to
be in.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Yeah, because if you're if you're like, man, that's fucked up.
But like I hate you now you're my enemy, but
I'm not gonna do anything about it. Well, another guy's
gonna be like on next week, I can still is commissary.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
He let him get away with doing that, so let
me do this.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Yeah yeah, oh, Nate Desmond says, look, I know you're
on that mark and Luther kingshit and non violent protest shit.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
That was so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
The Desmond goes, but I'm on the Malcolm X shit
by any means necessary.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Oh my gosh. Martin Luther King was like, Okay, when
I sat down and wrote the Eye have a Dream speech,
I didn't think it would be used in prison, you
know what I mean. I just wanted us all to
come together. This was not a prison speech right there. Yeah,
that was hilarious how he put that together like that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
I was like, oh, look at Desmond, he's pretty smart.
Yeah right, he's listened to history. So now we hear Carl,
who's yelling whoever picked up Nate's tabling and crushed it?
You're a real sucker ass dude, man, whoever did that
to Nate?

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Everyone knows it was you, Like we're on the outside, yeah,
and we know you did it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
And then they're trying to be like, well, maybe like
when he slid it under and they opened the door.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Somebody stepped on it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Now the talking head Alan goes, yeah, you could hear Carl,
Carl's yelling from somebody Else's say that somebody else from
his cell that somebody else did it, but we know
Carl did it. Yeah, and we see some other guys
saying like, oh, we're gonna have to get him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
We're gonna all have.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
To get Carl, and they're all just laughing about it,
laughing about it. Nate goes, my fun times, Nate goes,
everybody's expecting me to do something, you know. So then
he looks out and they see a team of officers
walking through and they're like, uh, oh, what's Green Team
doing up in here?

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
The black screen of DEAs says, this is the direct
Action Response team is called during high risk situations. Dart,
I wonder if I call him Green Team. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
It feels like they'd be the Red team because they're
like stopping this situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Green Team.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
So the colonel says, we had to remove inmate Fisher
to avoid conflict. We have heard he might be a
target for a gang stabbing, and everybody's yelling. He's like,
you bitch, ass p word, blah blah blah, get the
fuck out of here. And then you see Nate talking
to Desmond like, man, I was worried, Like God, if

(01:19:08):
you stabbed him, I'm gonna have to get my hit son.
And Desmond's like, yeah, motherfucker, if I stabbed him.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
You're gonna have you gotta kick him in the head
or something like, God, I'm not stabbing him for no reason.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
And then you see Alan go, Yeah, now I'm worried
because Pancho had now has a shank for no reason.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
What was he gonna do with his fucking shank? Like,
I don't know if I'm gonna wake up, if the
shank's gonna be in my face, I don't. I don't
take all my baloney, Take all my baloney.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
Take my baloney. And would you like the bottom boom
because I don't need it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
I need the bottom. I can sleep on the floor.
You can have both bits, whatever you want, whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Yeah, Black Screen and Death Before five hundred is released
from their lockdown. When Carl is getting taken out, the
dart team plans a raid and the colonel says, we
have heard of shanks inside Zone five hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Well, if they're just watching those little cameras, they would
have seen. I'm wondering how they're getting So someone's a snitch,
somebody's snitching from hitched.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Yeah, or production has told them, like we're watching this
and we can see what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Okay, Okay, Yeah, that's true too.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
So next time on sixty days in, everybody's getting searched.
You know, they've got them all out of their cells,
and every they're flipping the do in the searches and
Angela enters and we see another new guy who's entering.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
We don't get his name. He's a cute guy. He's
got a wife and kids. So what's going on there?
Oh wow, why are you trying to be away from
your family? I don't know, but he was cute.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
And now we see Jacqueline. Jacqueline's dorm is full of
people constantly yelling and fighting. She says, everybody's yelling and fighting.
There's no repercussions on any of this. And we see
her just lose her gd mind and she's yelling, shut
the fuck and go to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Okay, someone's gonna beat up Jacquelin. Do you think, yeah,
she's fucking annoying, Like, Okay, she's not annoying, but to them,
I bet they think she's really annoying. She's right in
what she's saying, yeah, but she's kind of going against
the crew a little bit, so she may be getting
on some people's bad side. Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
If you've got nothing to do in there, and they
won't let you sleep at night, just like you know,
three to six every afternoon is my nap time.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Like I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I don't
think she's gonna make the sixty days either. I don't think.
I'm very surprised, whereas Stephanie's gonna sign up for like
another six today. I don't feel like I have enough
enough intel. Let me stay. I don't know, one hundred
and twenty more days. She likes it there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
If we see next week, all of a sudden, lyrics
got like real long hair.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
We know where it came from. We know where it
came from. But I think Stephanie, I think she's gonna
give it her happily. Yeah, she's gonna think the bonds us.
It's like a friendship bracelet made about a hair extensions
for them. Yeah, yeah, she has to give it away.
Go ahead and take it out. I don't know how
Oh are you touching me? I feel like we're closer now,

(01:22:12):
You're right. Stephanie does think it's a sorority house, totally does.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
She's so excited.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
Yeah, well, next week you can see what happened with
Angela And again, you guys, if you know what happens,
don't tell us.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Don't tell us.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
We don't want to know what happens is what somebody's
doing in the present. We're gonna we will research all
of that ourselves at the end, but don't because we
did find something out that was shocking about somebody and
we were.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Shook it, like we were shook it so bad that
we questioned one another like do you think this is real?

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
And we then send it to Kimberly who was like
she had not heard it. Yeah, So guys, if you
find out something about something that happens this season, or
something about where are they now.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Don't tell us.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Don't tell us.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
We will cover it at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
At the end, we'll do a little research to see
if we can figure out where it right now, but
don't tell us because we want to be surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Next week you'll have another episode. It'll be episode three.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
I'm covering ninety day h EA with Kimberly, and this
week I have Amy Phillips on to talk about pop
and Bravo and we will be discussing the party that
Ryan Bailey and I are hosting before her show at
Bravo Con, which is the Saturday Night before Amy Show,
which is Saturday, November fifteenth at the hard Rock Cafe.

(01:23:34):
And we're very excited. Ryan Bayley Or and I are
hosting a party and it's free.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
You're going. It's free.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
The tickles will be available, they'll be free, cook it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
Just let us know you're coming, and we'll maybe have
some other people that will be stopping by to say hello.
And I'm very excited about that and grand time, I know,
im so excited. I'm getting my outfits all together for
brav what you are And.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Everyone needs to remember Tuesday's rapidly approaching. I know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
So this is Monday, so tomorrow is Tuesday, which is
our birthdays.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Don't forget to sign up for our birthday giveaway. We're
gifting you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
That's right, somebody gets a gift, so you guys. The
details are on Keisha's Instagram. It's on my instagram, Pink
shape Pie the Liberal Kisha go look that up. What
you have to do is you have to put on
your Instagram a video wishing us a happy birthday. Uh huh,
and then Ingrid will randomly choose from those videos and
they'll be one winner and you're getting like T shirt,

(01:24:36):
free Patreon and a fan and all sorts of stuff.
So today's Monday, You've got one more day. Tomorrow is
our birthday, Tuesday, October twenty first, it's our birthdays. We
are sisters from another mister twins, separated at birth twins,
just like the parent trap.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Wouldn't that be something somebody has to explain it to do?
You know, you never know. Genetics are crazy, crazy crazy,
you never know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
And make sure you're doing that because that'll be super
fun for us and then super fun for you because
you could be.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
The winner, right and everyone wants to be a winner.
Everybody wants to be a winner.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Everybody follow Keisha's podcast, The libertald Takisha and please follow
us both on social media again, that's where you get
the information about the party I'm doing with Ryan Bailey
at Bravo Con and also our birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Okay, thank you, Kisha, Bye bye

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