November 11, 2025 • 56 mins
This is part two of a two-part episode.
On Part One of the NO LIMITS TELL ALL - the couples all go to a shared house to fight and bond. Jovi and Andrei fight and then make up (for now). Darcey displays her melons. Kara is on the wrong side of Gino/Jasmine for the most part. Loren and Alexi successfully ignore Libby and Andrei. Jasmine puts her dirty underwear in Gino's bag. She's matured! At the Tell All, Shaun announces Tigerlily and Adnan will not be attending (Who?). Julia cries and then Darcey cries - and this was just the introduction. Gino, Matt, Jasmine and his family have a fight. Natalie shows up (Who?). And then the Floridiots get into it and Loren screams at Elizabeth and Andrei and we love to see it!
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On Part One of the NO LIMITS TELL ALL - the couples all go to a shared house to fight and bond. Jovi and Andrei fight and then make up (for now). Darcey displays her melons. Kara is on the wrong side of Gino/Jasmine for the most part. Loren and Alexi successfully ignore Libby and Andrei. Jasmine puts her dirty underwear in Gino's bag. She's matured! At the Tell All, Shaun announces Tigerlily and Adnan will not be attending (Who?). Julia cries and then Darcey cries - and this was just the introduction. Gino, Matt, Jasmine and his family have a fight. Natalie shows up (Who?). And then the Floridiots get into it and Loren screams at Elizabeth and Andrei and we love to see it!
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hey, y'all, the aga tell All was so good we
had to break it into two parts. This is part two.
Part one is already in your feed, so go listen
to that one. First.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Thanks so Kara, they say. She says, Kara, the last
time you hear you were pregnant? How old's your baby?
Blah blah. No one cares. Lauren and Alexi, you're celebrating
your ten year anniversary. Wow, congrats. And I hear you're
not speaking to Libby and Libby's husband Andree and they're like, yeah,
that's right, Brandon and Julia, how are you? So this
(00:45):
is to be clear, this is if you've never seen
a tell All. They do a brief cursory check Hello,
how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yes, how hello, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You are supposed to say, fine, great to see you, Sean.
You are not supposed to get immediately into the drama.
This is just a check in. Julia starts crying and says,
our fertility journey is really hard. Again. This is the
opening where you're just supposed to say, thank you, Sean,
(01:16):
how are you good to see you? Good to see you?
And Alexi goes is she pregnant? And Kara goes, I
don't know, and then Alexi goes and she's Julia's still crying.
And then Alexi goes, is she pregnant or not? I
don't understand, and Lauren's like, shut up, I don't know.
Just wait, we're gonna find out. So like it's causing
(01:37):
more speculation by her behaving this way when all she
had to do was say great, Sean, thank you for
having us. Yeah, so Julie is just crying. She just
walks off. We have our first walk off. Sean literally
just said, hi, Julian, Brandon walks off.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, it's gonna be a long day or two.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
This is the opening, andro, Julia, you gotta pace yourself.
This is where we get the pleasantries out of the way.
It's too soon for this. And Yara is like, she's
not pregnant. I don't think she can be pregnant, and
then Sean says, Brandon, I can see this is difficult
for her, and he nods like pretending to be sad
that this is about there again, drawing way too much
(02:20):
attention to it because he's he looks fake sad like
he's acting. Yeah, off camera, he's a terrible actor. Terrible actor, Yeah,
off camera, Julia and her cheekbones that are contoured straight
to heaven and her I dream of Genie ponytail. She's like,
I have a high risk pregnancy. Even my parents don't know.
This is very emotional. I will be sharing, but now
(02:42):
it's not the right time. So I instead caused a
scene and stormed off and got everyone speculating instead of
just saying we're fine, Sean, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Now is not the time. Well, she wasn't asking you
any questions. She just said how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
She said, how are you doing my fertility journey? What
does that mean? Are you fine? Are you pregnant? What's happening?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
What are you talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, So Sean pivots and says, Darcy Bulgaria did not
go well. You vomited at your wedding and there were
there was a fight at the end. It was bad,
and Darcy goes, story of my life. Story of my life. Sean, Okay,
you are the agent of chaos in all of your relationships.
(03:32):
Don't act like this is just how things go for you.
This is just a story of your life.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I'm not gonna address the elephant or two elephants in
the room.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
One that is being blurred out because Ariola is showing
she's sitting.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Guys, if you're watching this on video, she's sitting with
her arms behind her on the couch so that her
boobs are It's the weirdest way she's sitting. It's like,
maybe you is it that way at first to be
comfortable and then when the camera would come on, you
put your arms down.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But I don't know where you can fit them because
they're so big. I don't think she can fit them
on the side. You would have to rest them on
top of your boobs. You would literally have to be
like using them as resting place for I think she could.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Go around and down underneath the boobs underneath and then
put her hands, her hands together, her hands the blow
her waist. Yeah, maybe very odd she's making The dress
is horrible and it looks like it's the back that
she turned to the front, and it's just so not necessary.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It's so uncomfortable. I feel I'm concerned for her disk
health in her back. I am concerned for everyone who
had to see it. I'm concerned for people who think
that that's normal and then they want to have surgery.
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going to have to deal with her eventually. It's so
(05:01):
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Speaker 2 (06:50):
So story of my life. Story of my life is
me going to Bulgaria with my husband that's much younger
than me, and I cause the scene and we leave
without him. That's the story of my life, Sean. So
she goes, I'm with him. I'm loyal to him. I'm
in it to win it with him. I just want
transparency from him, which is why I talk over him
(07:13):
every time he tries to tell me anything and I
don't listen, but I want transparency. So Julia comes back,
and Shaun's like, thank you for coming back, Julia. Let's
get started, see, Julia, let's get started. Now we are
getting started yet, call you first. Jing Also, Darcy, you
are you also started crying right before the actual get started.
(07:38):
You cried during the pleasantries. Stop it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Remember where everybody needs a hormone regulation pill.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Uh huh, let's just pass that SSRIs like breath mince,
Yes you want an altoyd and an SSRI. Yes, Simbalta.
I got affectser I got Soloft, I got it all.
What do you want?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I'll take an effect for please? Thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, here you go. Here's a chaser of some tictacs
so we all have fresh breath. So Sean's like, let's
get started, Gino and Jasmine, let's try to unpack this. Okay,
she says, Matt, how is it saying Gino? And Matt's like,
we haven't really talked. It's neutral so far. See and
(08:21):
Jasmine talks about how great Matilda is, and Matt says
he didn't know he could love a child like this,
and he loves the baby. And Sean says, Jasmine, where
are your wedding rings? And she says that was a
very pointed question. And she says, well, I transform them
into earrings for Matilda. And people are like what and
(08:43):
Guiermo goes, what are you going to tell her when
she gets older, like these are from the rings of
the man who is my husband that I didn't sleep
with and not your daddy and what and Jasmine goes,
it is what it is. I wanted to get my
daughter some earrings, so what what was I gonna do?
I had this jewelry. It's what you do. You just
(09:05):
melt things down and you try to give them to
your daughter. It's fine, no, And Kara's like, give them
back to Geno at least. I mean, I'm with all
everybody on this. This is this is weird.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I agree. I agree, that's weird. Weird, yes, so weird.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And I don't think necessarily the guy who gave you
a rings are oh, the rings back if it doesn't
work out, But to give them to your daughter in
earring your baby daughter in ear rings form don't love. Also,
my earrings were pierced when I was a baby, and
I wish they weren't, and I have tried to close
them many times. They will never close. So I'm mad.
(09:47):
I'm my parents your fears did that too? How old
were you, like less than a year? Yeah, it's controversial.
A lot of people doing a lot of cultures to it.
I know, and it looks cute. A baby looks c
with little earrings. But let's go for bodily autonomy and say,
I maybe she'll be a very lazy, natural person who
(10:09):
doesn't like jewelry when she gets older aka me. And
now I always look unkempt because I look like I
forgot to put in earrings.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And I never thought about that. I have my friend Ali,
whose parents are Cuban, but she's very like fancy society
lady here in town. She's an olderman of mine, and
she's married like a you know, very rich guy whatever.
And when she had her daughter, she pierced the ears immediately,
(10:41):
and we went to lunch so I could like see
the baby, and she goes, I know you're judging me
for the piercers. Because she's also she's also Southern, she's
from Louisiana. And I go, I'm not judging you. She goes,
you know, it's a Cuban thing. Like I my mom.
You know, my mom really wanted me to do it,
so I did it. But I'm like, oh, now people
are judging me. And I was like, that's so interesting, right,
because it's it's from her parents' culture. But she wouldn't
(11:03):
necessarily do it because she's more of like a Southern
bell type. But her parents when she had the daughter,
were like, when you're gonna pierce the baby's ears, like
it's a whole rite of passage thing.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah. I mean, look, I'm not. I wasn't really mad
at my parents. I would tease them about it, but
I'm not. There's way other ways they fucked me up
in the head than five years anyways, So it's fine.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But that's funny.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But she pierced the baby's ears and then put these
diamond ear rings in the baby's ears.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I hope not that are from her, that are from Geno.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yes, right, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I don't want Geno anywhere near my baby. It's cursed.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
She should have just given it back. It's cursed to
give it back to hem.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, so Jason goes, I can give them back, but
they are earrings. Now do you want earrings? Gina? She's
being so like middle finger, fuck you, like she should.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Get so he can use diamonds and use them for
something else.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
She should yeah. Yeah, so Sean goes, let's watch Jasmine
tell Gino that she's pregnant with Matt's baby. Great times
play the clip, and in the clip, Geno's just blinking
a lot and he's acting all nonchalant. But then we
cut to him in his interview and he's really crying.
And Jasmine is watching this and she starts crying watching
Geno cry. And Kara is crying for some reason, this
(12:21):
doesn't evolve her at all, but she really feels for Gino.
And Jasmine has snot running down her face and she says,
blame I don't blame Gino for being upset. It hurts
to see him like that crying and he's and also
he's saying I never loved him, but he knows that
I did love him. I'm so sorry, Gino, and Gino says,
(12:44):
I've fallen for those crocodile tears before. I don't believe it.
She never loved me. Our relationship was one big fraud,
and Lauren says, I don't believe that. Last season, we
did a lie detector test and they asked, does she
love you? She passed with flying colors and she sucked
your toes. That's love, like go Lauren, good point. We've
(13:08):
all said the same thing. And even if she was
faking it, give her the green card. She earned it.
She sucked his toes.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yes, yes, agree. Anne had to be on him.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Anne had to be on him. So Andre and Georgie say, Jasmine,
if you were done with Gino, why not end the relationship?
Did you go? And I was like, did you guys
not watch last resort? She loved him, she cried, She
begged him please sleep with me for a year. He wouldn't.
He wouldn't bang her. So she said, Okay, if you're
(13:38):
not going to bang me, two choices. We either get
divorced or an open marriage because I can't live my
life without sex. I'm like feeling so insecure because my
husband won't do kiss me, look at me, love me,
you know so, and he chose open marriage instead of divorce.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
So so Jasmine doesn't like when people question her, so
she gets up and she storms off and she's like, yeah,
it's all my fault. I'm done with this. And I
was like, oh, stay calm. That's all you had to
do was steak calm. I know, because Gino's making himself
look bad enough and Sean, Sean is like the Jasmine
whisper and always has been. They have like this weird
(14:19):
special connection and Sean's like, come back here, Jasmine, do
it for me, come back here. Can we get her
tissues and like tell your side of the story, and
she's like petting her back and comforting her, and Jazz
it's like, thank you, Sean, thank you Sean, like they're
best friends. It's so funny, and she's like, thank you
for coming back for me, Sean, for me, Jasmine.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
They never see Sean act like this to anyone.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
No, I think she really likes Jasmine or has learned
how to deal with her somehow. So she is crying
and Matt says, for months she tried to get back
together with Gino. He threw her out, and Gino's like
she cheated and Thatt's like it was an open marriage.
It's not the same thing. And Brandon goes, is there
(15:07):
any way to get past this? Like, is there any
way we can just be at peace and get it? No,
there isn't no, And Jasmine says, he said, the only
way to get past this is for me to self
deport myself. To term do self checkout of this country.
But I can't leave my daughter. I'm feeling self. That's
(15:32):
a new one.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
That's a new one.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Self deport Well, no, I think that Ice has been
saying that for a while. You can self deport yourself.
Christy Nome has been like, you could go and self
deport yourself, we'll appreciate it. No one's doing that, so I've.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Never heard this term. But again, you know, I don't
watch the news.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
But now I just decided I'm gonna call it self
checkout of this country.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Self check out is way better, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Because I love self checkout and his or it's so
much better.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
No one's going to that hotel and your self check
out on the TV. So you check it on the TV,
get out of there.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
You love to talk to anybody, but no one's judging
you for your purchases at the grocery store. Yeah, it's better.
So she's like, I can't leave my daughter. I'm dealing
with the consequences of my poor decisions. See, she does
sometimes like take accountability. Sometimes she really does. She's like,
(16:24):
I know these are my poor decisions, and I'm dealing
with the consequences. But what am I to do. I'm
in like a horrible situation. And Sean says, I'm so
sorry Jasmine that you're going through this and you're having
to deal with this. She doesn't even look at Gino Like,
Sean is clearly on Jasmine's side, and I love it.
So let's move on to you and Matt happier times. Matt,
(16:48):
you were scared to face judgment from the Romanians, all
of Romania. You were scared of societal pressure. And then
they show the video of Matt proposing with the string
and Jazzmine saying I don't have an answer, and Sean says, Matt,
what did that feel like for you?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Just was his little faced.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
And Matt says, I felt like she's still in that
limbo mode and doesn't know what to do, and it
hurt that she didn't say yes to my proposal, and
what's your relationship now, Jasmine says, I am postpartum and hormonal,
so I'm sorry that I'm crying. Sean. I love you,
my girl. I love Matt and I see a future
with him, but I don't want to marry anyone again.
(17:33):
Even my lawyer says I should marry so I can
get a permanent status in this country, but I don't
want to give that power to anyone ever again. And
then that's when the girls start nodding, and like the
immigrants start nodding, like okay, I see, I see, And
she's like, if I don't, if we don't work out
with Matt, and he were to say, you use me
(17:54):
for a green card, and I heard that again, like
that would destroy me. I know he's getting pressure for
his family, and I feel badly. His mom calls him crying.
She thinks we're going to hell. She wants us to
get married, but like, I can't do it if I'm
not ready, and these are my feelings about it. And
Matt says, I just want to know there's a future
(18:15):
and you aren't going to get bored one day, and
Jasmine's like, I love Matt and he's a great father,
but sometimes I want to be by myself. Like she
did just get out of a marriage, right, and then
she's jumping to living with somebody else. She's had no
time by herself. And Andre is like, you can't just
say that to a man after having a baby with him.
(18:35):
That's you, bention. You could say, if you and Jasmine goes,
my feelings should be validated. And if I'm feeling this way, like,
that's okay, and I want to be with him, but
I'm just not ready for a marriage commitment, y'all.
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So then Dana and Dana and Michelle and nephew Anthony
who has somehow found a voice this season has come out.
Why are you here, Anthony? You are the only one.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
He's on Geno's side, That's why, because I needed something.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
The only one that will be on camera. Yeah, that
is on genoside. So Jasmine lights up that Dana and
Michelle are here. She's like, all of a sudden, all smiles,
and Sean says, you guys are related to Gino, but
your team, Jasmine, what happened? And Gino says, well, we
fought because family should support family, and they didn't support me.
(21:07):
And Dana says, who do you support? Gino? Which I
thought was a good sick burn. I don't really know
what it means, but it's a good burn. And Michelle says,
if you don't agree with how Gino sees things, you're wrong.
You're instantly wrong to him, and Gino says that's not true,
and Dana goes, that's his favorite thing to say. He
(21:30):
says that all the time, and now we are going
to start a counter of how many times Gino says
that's not true. Okay, So that was number one?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
So Sean says, Gino, there's this division between you and
the family Gino says, that's not true. That's number two.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Gino says, the rest of my family does support me.
Dana says, I can't be quiet anymore. The problem is
Gino didn't want to introduce any of the family to Jasmine.
Gino says, that's not true. I'm not making this up.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
People, I'm writing it down. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Gino is the most ridiculous, stupidest person on TLC because again,
he was essentially cuckolded in a way and babied whatever
the term is where someone doesn't have a baby with
you and then goes and sleeps with someone else and
has a baby with them, whatever the term is. You
would look like the innocent person in this season, but
(22:35):
you were looking like the villain in this relationship. That's
a real accomplishment that you could turn it around and
still make yourself hated. All you had to do was
say nothing.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, my feelings were so heard. I'm so upset about this,
Like I did hear it. I did think we were
going to work through this, and I thought we would
have a baby one day, and this breaks my heart.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah he could, yeah, he could get he would be
the Ariana of this season. Where he would go off
and host Love Island and be on Dancing with the
Stars and star on Broadway and she's not likable at all.
But but again, he would be the come out on top.
(23:15):
But he fucked it all up.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
He's playing.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yes. So Michelle says, Jasmine is alone. You kicked her out,
and Gino goes, she cheated and interrupts Michelle, and Dana
doesn't like when people interrupt his wife, and he's like,
let someone else talk, Gino, I will get up in
your face, and Gino goes, go ahead, and Dana says
I will and she knows, like do it then, and
(23:40):
then Dana gets up and gets shark nose to shark
nose and they're just like right in each other's faces. Dana,
you've never been hotter than me. Good job. And then
security steps.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
In to stop found I've found this fake.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It could be very well be fake.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Because Dana and Gina we're both kind of smirking under
their smirking, you know, smirking.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
So the security steps in. They make Dana sit down,
and he says, Gino doesn't want people to know the truth.
The truth is Jasmine was begging to meet your family
and you wouldn't. Michelle says, your sisters live and I
was like, your sisters? You know his sisters? Do you
know the brother?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
We met the brother one time?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Wow, But these sisters are very smart to not appear
on TV and be related to Gino. So apparently they
lived ten minutes from him, these sisters, and they're like,
has Jasmine ever even met them? Has she met your
best friend? And I was like, who's the best friend?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
And why friend TV?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
He is a friend? A friend is too embarrassed to
be on TV. So Sean says, Gino, is that true?
Are you hiding Jasmine from your family? And Dana says yes,
let me lay it all out. Gino knew one week
after she came here that he didn't want to be
with her. Gino goes, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I got my pen. That's for.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Alex. Alexi jumps in and says, I've heard him say
that they fought like crazy from the beginning. I heard it.
I heard it. And Dana says, you're just sitting here
like boohoo, woe is me? Like you're the victim in this, Gino.
I want to defend you, but then you open your
mouth and I say what the fuck is wrong with
this guy? This is your cousin. It's also giving Brian
(25:34):
of the other way when he just said to Luke
and the one that we just recorded where he's like,
it's really hard to be your friend Blue.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Oh god, yes, He's like, Luke, tell me one nice
thing about Madeline. Well, I want to get married and.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I want to live in Columbia.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, okay, so that's what's a nice thing about Madeline.
I love the lifestyle here and you weather happens, The
weather's amazing. The dollar goes for a her. Tell me
one thing about Madeline. Oh, she's young and hot.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Is that the right answer?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Dana's like, it is very hard to be your cousin, Gino.
I want to defend you, but when you open your mouth,
I say, what the fuck is wrong with this guy?
And Sean goes, please elaborate, Dana, what are you talking about?
And Dana says, what we went to lunch and he
said I knew the first week that I didn't want
to be with her, and Gino says, I never said that,
(26:31):
which is an accompaniment to that's not true, right, that's it.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I'm not counting it, Okay, you're not counting I'm not
counting it.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So he says, I said she was treating me like crap.
And Michelle says, you said you didn't even want to
be with her before you even married her. Why did
you even marry her? And Dana says, you make it
so easy for me to not like you. Gino, we
got it, Dana, this is your cousin in Thanksgiving is
(27:02):
going to be real awkward. So Jasmine goes that you
hear this, everybody. That's why there was no affection. That's
why there was no love. That's why he wouldn't bang me.
He didn't even like me. Anthony is now feels like
he can speak.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
It's way on the other side of the room.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
By the way, Yeah, they've stuck him in the corner
with bad lighting. Yes, And he's like, I learned the
timeline from Gino and she was fucking Matt before Last Resort,
And Matt says, which I don't like when they refer
to the name of the show. I feel like they
try to be sly and call it therapy. We went
to therapy. They would come like therapy, Yes, couple's therapy.
(27:41):
We all know it was Last Resort. So he's like,
she was fucking Matt before last resort, and Matt goes,
I guess he was there putting my penis in her
for me, because otherwise how would he know that? And
Gino's like, I will show the proof. I have phone
records of their conversation, and Jovie says, okay, So they
(28:03):
talked a lot. There was an emotional connection between them.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, I'm gonna show you
the text messages. Okay, So if you look right here,
this is a phone record screenshot from my Dell computer.
Here it is so you can see the screen shot.
It says they talked four times on April fourth. One
(28:26):
call was two minutes and the other call was nineteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Proof they fucked. Also this phone number she talked to
a lot, and this was Matt. He changed his number
at some point, and Matt goes, I never changed my number,
And Sean grabs the phone and goes, Matt, is this
your number? And Matt's like no, and Gino goes, I
went to Google and I gave it a Google. I
(28:55):
binged it, I asked Jeeves and it came up as
his phone numb and Jasmine says we talked. You knew
we were talking. We were friends. Anthony says, the weirdest
thing when you got kicked out, you said you were
living in a stranger's house, but you were living in
Matt's house. Well, yeah, I mean he was a stranger.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
She's like, I'm gonna have to go and live with
this guy I met at the gym.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, yeah, And Jasmine says, I was supposed to live
under a bridge. This is this.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Is her second reference to living under a bridge, because
she said that at the house she would sleep under
a bridge instead of sleeping in the room with Gino.
But she already had a hotel room with Matt and
the baby in it. But go ahead.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Maybe she's been reading Matilda stories about like a troll
under a bridge. Maybe it's in her brain. So Gino says,
I have a lot of stuff on here on my phone,
and he's scrolling, and Juliet goes, look, it looks like
he's scrolling boobs, boobs, boobs, boobs, like photos of boobs,
and Sean says, you should put those in a favorites album.
(29:59):
They might be he's here to find next time. And
I couldn't tell if she was talking about the boobs,
if she was jumping in on the boobs joke, or
if she's like, if you do have messages, why didn't
you put them in a favorites album so production and
all of us would not have to sit here under
these hot lights and wait for you to find things.
You old man on your phone.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yes, and she's older than him, but I think that.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yes, she's like, you should have just put it all.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
On one spot so you can find it, you know,
even just email it all of yourself so you could
find it.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
You know, hammers are rolling, like we can't just sit
here all day.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
And he has no and like, can somebody just call
this phone number right now? Literally call the phone number
right now. See if Matt's phone rings.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Which we're gonna get next week. Oh good Jovi is
gonna do that. So Gino says it started on December twenty. First,
they were talking every day, and Jasmin says, I would
call him for a ride to the gym because you
were not driving me, which she talked about on last resort.
She said he stopped giving me a ride to the gym.
(30:59):
He wouldn't give me a ride anywhere. I was trapped
in the house.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
It wouldn't help her in her driver's license or anything,
so she could go hersel.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, so g knows like they talked every day a
varying length, like sometimes for two minutes, sometimes for longer.
And Anthony goes the facts showed she cheated and she
didn't want him to take her to the gym for
a reason because the guy she was banging was there.
And I was like, Anthony, we saw her beg him
(31:27):
for rides and he wouldn't do it. Yeah, and she
threw a smoothie at him in a parking lot because
she was so frustrated. True, she was not good. Dana says,
is so frustrated. He's like rubbing his face off. He's
like doing this kind of thing, like, oh my god,
it's very funny. Now let's bring out Natalie. She has
(31:47):
a lot of feelings and she's here to share them.
That's what Sean says. I died so and Lippy tries
to get in. She's like, Jasmine, is this the girl
you pushed.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Natalie? We didn't need you. You're fake, we think you're
an actor. Get out of here.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, go ahead. So she comes on. She's like the
whole thing was traumatic. But I'm here today because Jasmine,
as a woman, I am disappointed that you put your
hands on me. And Jasmine starts to walk off, as
she does when she is cornered cornered, and Natalie says,
sit the fuck down, you poor excuse for a woman,
and security is holding her back, and Anthony says, you
(32:27):
manipulative succubis. You are a manipulative succubist.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
He said it like three times because he wanted to
make sure we heard it.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
He has a word of the day calendar and he
has just learned both of those words, and so he's
putting them together. He's so proud of himself. Yes, so
Sean goes, Jasmine, will you come back please for me?
And like, she comes right back, sits down next to Sean.
She's teacher's pet at this reunion. It's so funny. And
(32:57):
she's crying again, and Anthony says, when she's called on things,
she can't handle it, which is true. That's the best
thing you've said, Anthony. It's one hundred percent true. And
so Sean says, let's play the clip of the birthday
party where Jasmine calls Natalie a prostitute and pushes her
and Natalie starts yelling about Jasmine's filler and now it's
(33:18):
not in the right place in her face, and I'd
forgotten that part and it was very funny, good shob Natalie. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
And also the filler in her asses in the wrong place,
as we know, they put it in upside down.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Upside down. So Jasmine says, Listen, I was living with Matt.
That's true, but I was trying to save my marriage.
I was constantly reaching out to Gino, hoping he'd give
me a second chance. But so we were not done.
We had had dinner where we were talking about like
our relationship, and then I find out he's dating, which
(33:49):
again is hypocritical because it is living with Matt and
bringing him right. Agree. But again, as she points out,
we agreed upon Matt and we did not agree upun Natalie,
but that's pretty weak. I still do. She looks worse.
So Dana says, you asked her to dinner to talk
about stuff, and Natalie didn't know. Natalie, you lied to Natalie,
(34:11):
and Natalie's like, yeah, I had told him. The only
way I'm getting in this weird relationship is if it's done,
Like if you guys have decided you're getting a divorce,
and Gino lied to me. She says, I understand why
Jasmine was upset, but you don't put your hands on someone.
And I'm a fifty three year old woman. Good for her,
and I don't need to be called a whore. And
(34:32):
Darcy shakes her head like like it's disgusting to her,
Like Darcy at fifty has not made worse scenes than
this in the bar, She's like, she's right, it's terrible.
Is it terrible? Terrible? Terrible to act that way when
you're fifty? No, and never do it. Yeah, snatched when
you're fifty. You don't throw up outside your wedding when
you're fifty. Also, her nipple is just full out, yeah out,
(34:57):
just out, hang it out. It wants to se the show.
It's like, who's gonna storm out? Next? Was our Karen
Giermo getting back together? I see chemistry between them? Nipple quiet? Quiet?
Is Julia pregnant? Nipple? We don't know yet? Please be quiet?
You know what Troji looks kind of like a snack.
(35:17):
I'm glad we're married to him. Stop it, nipple, You've
got to stop. Go ahead so fast, so Jasmine starts
singing like some sort of nursery rhyme and ignoring Natalie,
and Kara says, I think you have narcissistic tendencies to Jasmine,
which is one hundred percent true. You don't have to
(35:39):
be a doctor to see that. I know we're not
supposed to self diagnose diagnose people on TV, but that's
what we're here for. It's very clear that she has
narcissis tendencies. So caar Kara, who, for some reason my
autocorrec keeps saying karaoke, she which is funny because she's
(36:01):
a singer. Yeah, but chata music, but chata. So she goes.
Kara says, G know, you're not perfect either, which I'm
glad she at least gets that in. And she's like,
but your two personalities together are horrible, which is correct.
They should they're oil and some other disgusting kind of oil.
(36:25):
They should not be together. So Sean brings up the
divorced discussions and how Gino is legally the father, and
she says, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard. And
Gino says, I'm revoking paternity and I'm taking a DNA test,
so good, which we knew, we knew because he's a
cheap He did not want anything to do with this
(36:46):
baby does.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
And he shouldn't have to and they don't want him,
and so great, everybody went great.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Great. So Lauren and Yara chime in and they're like, look, Gino,
we know you're mad, but don't use this baby as revenge,
like you need to let this go, just like let
her go, let it be, and g knows like she
needs to be held accountable. And Lauren and Alexi go,
we're losing patience with you. You need to let it go.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, nobody wants to hang out with you in this
house for three more days.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
No, and Gino goes, I won't let immigration fraud go
and everyone starts like rolling. It's just like, ye, Gino,
you lost me.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
You told you once he started, once he started talking
about immigration to the immigrants, it's not gonna go well
for you.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Not gonna go well. And so Jasmine won't apologize to Natalie,
even though Natalie did nothing wrong and did not deserve
what happened to her, and it's gross and you should
at least apologize, And I honestly thought she was going
to because sometimes Jasmine's very pro woman, and even after
the fight at the bar, she said, I think Gino
lied to her, and I think she didn't know the situation,
(37:57):
so I shouldn't even be mad at her. But Natalie
came on really hot, and Jasmine doesn't like to be
But Matt showed.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Up at the bar, I mean, Jazman showed up at
the bar with Matt. If we're supposed to take this
at fake's value, and I don't, I think it's all fake.
And I think that Jasmine probably off camera, found Natalie
and was like, hey, you know production made me do that. Sorry, sorry,
girl as possible.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, yeah, that's totally possible.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
And like said, dick doesn't work. Did you find that
out for yourself?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, good luck. I'm glad you didn't get in that
hot tub with him. Oh no you did, so, no
you did? Sorry?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah. Uh So we say bye bye to Natalie, and
Natalie says, you know, I need to get away from
that bitch. She is a damn lunatic. I wish I was. Yeah,
I came here to get my say, but I did
not get any resolution. And it's good there was security
there because I would have cut a bitch. She's dying
to be on TV. Dying she wants to be on TV. Yeah,
and then we say bye bye to Dana and Michelle
(38:54):
and Anthony, and as they're leaving, Matt goes, Michelle, you
look amazing, so like refing his spot on their team.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah. We've seen pictures of Dana, Michelle, Matt, and Jasmine
like hanging out watching a movie their buddies.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah. Yeah, so Sean says, I hope you can find
a resolution in the next fiscal year. We will see
you back here and talking to it again. We're gonna
circle back in January. Okay, So Jasmine says Sean, if
you don't see me anymore, I got deported and I
(39:29):
will send you a card from Panama and everyone laughs
because that's the funny Jasmine that we all know. So
onto the floor, idiots. We see the dog party fight
and Sean says, watching that video, Lauren, you were giving
Elizabeth a death stare. And Lauren's like yeah, because she
kept blaming it on Andre and saying that he read
(39:51):
our messages and he brought up body shaming at this party.
But I'm watching this video and Lauren's the one who
brought up the body shaming at the party. So it's
like way worse than she even thought it was. I mean,
Elizabeth brought up the body shaming. Sorry, Elizabeth brought up
the body shaming. So like Lauren had thought that Andrey
(40:11):
had gone through the messages and started the fight and
aired their dirty laundry in public, But it was Elizabeth,
and she shared our private messages publicly. And Andrea's or
Alexi makes such a good point. He's like, if you
were so concerned about this, like about our marriage and
her feelings and her body image, you would have talked
(40:32):
to her about it privately when it was happening like years, Like,
why would you bring it up publicly when you were
in a fight with her? And Libby says, why are
you getting so mad if it wasn't true. It doesn't
matter if it's true or not. It's the fact that
you said it at a party in front of everyone,
and it was a private text message between your friends.
(40:54):
So Libby says, we aren't friends anymore because we can't
trust each other, and Lauren screams way louder than anyone
has been this whole time. That comes you open your
fucking mouth and everyone's like, oh my god, she's a
little body with a demon inside of her. She's to go,
(41:16):
and Elizabeth is like, I open my fucking mouth. What
are you talking about? It's you open your fucking Are
you serious? Did you have amnesia? I think she has
a memento disease sometimes because like she does not she
constantly thinks that it's someone else's fault, like she didn't start.
It arrives me crazy. So Lauren has now calmed down,
(41:38):
and she says, Andrea, it seems like you enjoy this,
like stirring up shit, And Libby again says, why are
you getting mad if it's not true, which you've said
like five times already, and Alex again calmly explains, if
you want to talk about what was happening in our
marriage at that time, we can do that. But the
(42:00):
problem is you brought it up at a party out
of spite because you think we had done something wrong
to you. And Andre goes, you call me a dick,
and Lauren goes, you are a dick, and then Andre goes,
it's not important, it's just a word, like it doesn't
even bother him. Okay, he's called the dick who cares,
(42:22):
and Alexi goes, exactly, it's just a word, it's not important,
but what Elizabeth did is important. That was like a
betrayal of a friendship. So there's a huge difference. And
Lauren says, why did you go through messages from two
and a half years ago? And Andre goes, so what
I log in? I see the messages? So what I
(42:44):
was bored? The cable was out? What am I supposed
to I got to read something? I pull it out,
all the cereal boxes, I read the backs of those.
What else am I supposed to do? Read a book?
So Sean goes, do people do that? Do you? Guys
like go through each other's so now we get insight
into everyone's relationship. Darcy says, I went through Georgie's DMS
(43:06):
and I found some messages from ladies about the spa
flirting like oh can we go in the steam room?
Is the sauna hot? Like gross? Messages like that, And
then Kara and Guillermo says we've or Guillermo says we've
both done it, and Kara's like, I never have done it,
and he goes back in dr when we were just
(43:27):
not exclusive, we were just like fucking and Kara goes, oh, yeah,
we were just dating, but he was staying at my
house and like I saw that he had told me
I want to look at the moon with you. And
then I looked on his phone and he had told
some other bitch that he wants to look at the moon.
She loves calling other women bitches.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, she also real like gets her head going. And
then he told me.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
I was like, Okay, I don't want to say she
appropriates another culture, but she fully appropriates another culture she
does with a lot of things she does, and I'm
not just talking about the Bashada music. Yeah. So Yara
says Jovi's phone is too boring, nothing in there, and
(44:12):
he's like, as you.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Recall, mother nature does not bless him. Who would want
to fuck that?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
And he goes, yeah, one time she did grab my
phone and looked and she was instantly like, there's nothing
on here. This is boring. So good for you, Jovi.
You talk a big game about fucking strippers, but you
actually have not been cheating on Yara. So good for you.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Yes, yes, very happy look at her and look at him.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Okay, okay, yeah you are lucky to well that's why
he's never grateful enough. He needs to be damn grateful
that he is with her. She is a business woman,
and she is gorgeous, and she's smarter than you's so
and she's hilarious. Those are four things she has that
you do not have. So, I mean, he's kind of
funny sometimes so and I think he has a good job.
(44:59):
So I guess you may money. So Andre says, I
found so much material in these text messages, material like
material for the tell all to talk bad about our friends.
I found juicy material. This is gross. And she Lauren
wanted a tummy tuck because Alex looks at other women.
(45:20):
She and Alexi goes. Lauren had three babies. She was
working with a trainer and a dietician to try to
lose weight, and I was part of that journey. I
would talk to the trainer too. She was working really
hard to lose the weight. And Libby's like, why did
she need to though, that's gross, which I agree, But
on Alexi's like, because she wanted to.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
That was somebody care. Somebody said she had three babies
in three years.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Which is which she wasn't supposed to, and the doctors
all told her that could be a death sentence. But
she did it anyway. But that's okay, that's her choice.
It's her body. So Kara says, supporting her weight loss
journey is not the same as him body shaming her,
which again a reasonable point to Kara. I got to
(46:08):
give her like three ticks in the yes column for that,
And Libby says, well, he didn't say it that nice.
He was being a jerk about it. And Alex says, yes,
I am too brash. I was not sensitive, and I
was very like, if you want to lose weight, you
have to do a B, C and D and then
you'll lose weight. That's my fault because again he didn't
(46:29):
understand women and hormones. And he can lose weight in
five seconds if he stops drinking regular coke. And so
I say this.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
All the time to men. Men do not understand the
difference between a man and this. I'm speaking generally, Okay,
in general, a man could be like, oh I got yeah,
put on some white whatever. So what I'm gonna do
is I'll stop eating chocolate bars and I'll get it
down to one diet cocada and then like goal weight
one week. You know, it's just very, very easy in general,
(46:59):
don't come at me. General. For men, yes, if they
can't control their eating and everything, and then oh yeah,
I'll work out two more extra times and then I'll
stop drinking beer and then I'm good to go. Whereas women,
it's a mental thing. And I don't know if in
general for women food is more comfort or you it's
but it's not so easy for women to be like,
(47:20):
I'm just gonna eat a grilled like fucking Petia and Dylan.
I'm just gonna have steamed salmon and microgreens four times
a day and look at me, look at my snatch body.
It's not that easy. Women have entirely different makeup. And
I think that Alex learned a lesson here that you
can't just say why can't you lose weight? Because he
probably was like, I don't know why the weight's not
coming off. If I eat like that, I'd be a bird,
(47:41):
you know.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Totally, And we had guessed that he probably said stuff
like that, or just work out more, which like sounds
like an asshole. It's not necessarily body shaming, like he
just was callous and like not sympathetic and not understanding.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Buddy shit is like you look gross. Your body is
gross to me. It's kind of like what Gino said
to Jasmine, like he found her unattractive. He said her
p word was disgusting to look at, like you know,
that's body shaming.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, yeah, again, I think.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Maybe Andre is going to come with some receipts of
something that Lauren says Alexi said, and maybe we're going
to see that, but we haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Right, we haven't seen it yet. And the glee that
Andre and Libby are taking from, like exposing this secret
about their best friend's marriage, is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Yeah, I mean he said. Andre said before they started,
it's going to get steamy, like he's excited.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
He said, he loves excited.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
And also again and I hope I don't think they're
going to address it. But Libby, at that lunch when
they were supposed to make up, she said, I think
Alexi is verbally abusive to you.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
I hope they do aggress that.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
That is like egregious to say.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
I wouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I wouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
I would have tried to make up with her after
that when they were like classid. No, I just would
have said, since you said that, we can't be friends anymore.
But let's just be cordial, hang out with the group.
But that's it.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So and it wasn't coming from a
place of concern either. It was coming two years after
the fact, right when Lauren was going through this journey,
and it was because you were to fight with her
and because you called Andrea dick. So Andrea says, Lauren said,
you go to a bar and you don't want to
(49:28):
come home because you want the girl at the bar.
And Lauren starts screaming, and she's like, what is wrong
with you? You are starting rumors. And Alexi says, none of
that ever happened. I don't know what you're talking about.
And Lauren screams shut up to Andrea, like and then
she calls him son of a whore in Hebrew and
(49:49):
this she's like, this is how rumors get started, Like,
this is how marriages are ruined. This is how like
people get canceled for something they didn't do. Because you're
trying to be fun and start a rumor. And Andre says,
your panties are in a bunch, shove them up your ass.
Let's go outside and fight. And so he we are
(50:10):
Cliffhanger is our Andre and Alexi get a fight, and
who would win in that fight? It's not gonna happen,
but pretend.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Production wouldn't let it happened. But they did let Andrea
and brother Charlie have that fight that time.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
That's true by the pool no less.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
So if Andre can get in real quick before production arrives.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Now was Alexi ever in the Israeli Army? I would
guess he was because he came here after the mandatory age,
so he's probably learned some skills.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
And he's an EMT and he also works out a lot.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, he's super fit. And Andre has bulk bult On Reddit,
they were like literally like it's like fat ripped, it's
like fat muscles. It's like it's dad bod but hot.
It's like there's muscles underneath the dad bod, and it's
(51:08):
it's sexy to some people, I guess, But like I
see he is strong.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
I think, oh, yeah, he's strong, Like for sure he's strong. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
So then next week it's gonna be crazy because Betty
and Ron are going to find out maybe about Julia,
and Betty has her wine. In the first clip, she's like.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
She is so red faced.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
It is attached to her at all times. Betty, you
have a problem, because no sober person would think that
that hair looks good. That should have been our clue
that you have a problem.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
I think when Betty reached a certain age and maybe
it was like nine, yeah, not like thirty. I think
she was like, this is what I've got, this is
what God gave me, and I'm just rocking it and
it looks good and I'm keeping it.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
It's like someone I can't it's like something or like
you shave it, but then it goes right back to that.
So like even if she tried to shave it, it would
go right back orf. She tries to gel it down
and it just pops right back up. Yes, yes, yes,
yes she can't. She can't help it.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
And it looks like SEL's missing an opportunity to make
a chia pet head of Betty.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Yes, get Jonathan van Ness in there, like, let's do
a makeover show, queer eyestyle on Betty and Ron.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Yeah, just get get Reese from Seky's sister wife. Just somebody.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah. So it looks like at the house. I didn't
write down all of these, but it looks like at
the house. Andre and Jovi because Jovi is a shitster.
He's like, Gino calls that phone number, and let's see
if Matt is answering is he on his phone? Now,
somebody watch him to see if he's on his phone,
(52:54):
and we're gonna call it, and so we don't know
what happened.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
But don't call it from Geno's number because that number
is definitely blocked exactly, you know, Yeah, did Matt change
his number? Is that Matt Summer. It's very hard to
change your phone number and so.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Worth it, so not worth it if you've had it
for a while, it's not worth it. Yeah, I don't know,
but there's she's still no proof that they cheated, but
I think it's very likely that they did. But again,
like I kind of just don't blame her, like he
was horrible to her, right, cheating is not okay and
(53:31):
they should have just gotten a divorce.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
But also now I'm wondering, like when they lived, when
Matt lived in Michigan, was that his landline and she
would call him at his house and that's and he's like, no,
I didn't change my number, because he didn't change his number.
He's got the same cell phone. Number that was his
home number in Michigan. Mm hm and so, and then
Sean said, is that your number? He said no, because
(53:54):
it's not his number anymore. He didn't live in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Interesting, got some time.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
We just have to talk it through and then we
solve everything. God bless all right, everybody. That is our episode,
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Speaker 1 (55:34):
I think last week you were into Okay everybody, that's
it and we will see you later next week for
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Hey, y'all, the aga tell All was so good we
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Thanks so Kara, they say. She says, Kara, the last
time you hear you were pregnant? How old's your baby?
Blah blah. No one cares. Lauren and Alexi, you're celebrating
your ten year anniversary. Wow, congrats. And I hear you're
not speaking to Libby and Libby's husband Andree and they're like, yeah,
that's right, Brandon and Julia, how are you? So this
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is to be clear, this is if you've never seen
a tell All. They do a brief cursory check Hello,
how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yes, how hello, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You are supposed to say, fine, great to see you, Sean.
You are not supposed to get immediately into the drama.
This is just a check in. Julia starts crying and says,
our fertility journey is really hard. Again. This is the
opening where you're just supposed to say, thank you, Sean,
(01:16):
how are you good to see you? Good to see you?
And Alexi goes is she pregnant? And Kara goes, I
don't know, and then Alexi goes and she's Julia's still crying.
And then Alexi goes, is she pregnant or not? I
don't understand, and Lauren's like, shut up, I don't know.
Just wait, we're gonna find out. So like it's causing
(01:37):
more speculation by her behaving this way when all she
had to do was say great, Sean, thank you for
having us. Yeah, so Julie is just crying. She just
walks off. We have our first walk off. Sean literally
just said, hi, Julian, Brandon walks off.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, it's gonna be a long day or two.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
This is the opening, andro, Julia, you gotta pace yourself.
This is where we get the pleasantries out of the way.
It's too soon for this. And Yara is like, she's
not pregnant. I don't think she can be pregnant, and
then Sean says, Brandon, I can see this is difficult
for her, and he nods like pretending to be sad
that this is about there again, drawing way too much
(02:20):
attention to it because he's he looks fake sad like
he's acting. Yeah, off camera, he's a terrible actor. Terrible actor, Yeah,
off camera, Julia and her cheekbones that are contoured straight
to heaven and her I dream of Genie ponytail. She's like,
I have a high risk pregnancy. Even my parents don't know.
This is very emotional. I will be sharing, but now
(02:42):
it's not the right time. So I instead caused a
scene and stormed off and got everyone speculating instead of
just saying we're fine, Sean, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Now is not the time. Well, she wasn't asking you
any questions. She just said how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
She said, how are you doing my fertility journey? What
does that mean? Are you fine? Are you pregnant? What's happening?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
What are you talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, So Sean pivots and says, Darcy Bulgaria did not
go well. You vomited at your wedding and there were
there was a fight at the end. It was bad,
and Darcy goes, story of my life. Story of my life. Sean, Okay,
you are the agent of chaos in all of your relationships.
(03:32):
Don't act like this is just how things go for you.
This is just a story of your life.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I'm not gonna address the elephant or two elephants in
the room.
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Guys, if you're watching this on video, she's sitting with
her arms behind her on the couch so that her
boobs are It's the weirdest way she's sitting. It's like,
maybe you is it that way at first to be
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put your arms down.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But I don't know where you can fit them because
they're so big. I don't think she can fit them
on the side. You would have to rest them on
top of your boobs. You would literally have to be
like using them as resting place for I think she could.
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Go around and down underneath the boobs underneath and then
put her hands, her hands together, her hands the blow
her waist. Yeah, maybe very odd she's making The dress
is horrible and it looks like it's the back that
she turned to the front, and it's just so not necessary.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It's so uncomfortable. I feel I'm concerned for her disk
health in her back. I am concerned for everyone who
had to see it. I'm concerned for people who think
that that's normal and then they want to have surgery.
And I'm concerned for the body dysmorphia therapists that are
going to have to deal with her eventually. It's so
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Speaker 2 (06:50):
So story of my life. Story of my life is
me going to Bulgaria with my husband that's much younger
than me, and I cause the scene and we leave
without him. That's the story of my life, Sean. So
she goes, I'm with him. I'm loyal to him. I'm
in it to win it with him. I just want
transparency from him, which is why I talk over him
(07:13):
every time he tries to tell me anything and I
don't listen, but I want transparency. So Julia comes back,
and Shaun's like, thank you for coming back, Julia. Let's
get started, see, Julia, let's get started. Now we are
getting started yet, call you first. Jing Also, Darcy, you
are you also started crying right before the actual get started.
(07:38):
You cried during the pleasantries. Stop it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Remember where everybody needs a hormone regulation pill.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Uh huh, let's just pass that SSRIs like breath mince,
Yes you want an altoyd and an SSRI. Yes, Simbalta.
I got affectser I got Soloft, I got it all.
What do you want?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I'll take an effect for please? Thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, here you go. Here's a chaser of some tictacs
so we all have fresh breath. So Sean's like, let's
get started, Gino and Jasmine, let's try to unpack this. Okay,
she says, Matt, how is it saying Gino? And Matt's like,
we haven't really talked. It's neutral so far. See and
(08:21):
Jasmine talks about how great Matilda is, and Matt says
he didn't know he could love a child like this,
and he loves the baby. And Sean says, Jasmine, where
are your wedding rings? And she says that was a
very pointed question. And she says, well, I transform them
into earrings for Matilda. And people are like what and
(08:43):
Guiermo goes, what are you going to tell her when
she gets older, like these are from the rings of
the man who is my husband that I didn't sleep
with and not your daddy and what and Jasmine goes,
it is what it is. I wanted to get my
daughter some earrings, so what what was I gonna do?
I had this jewelry. It's what you do. You just
(09:05):
melt things down and you try to give them to
your daughter. It's fine, no, And Kara's like, give them
back to Geno at least. I mean, I'm with all
everybody on this. This is this is weird.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I agree. I agree, that's weird. Weird, yes, so weird.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And I don't think necessarily the guy who gave you
a rings are oh, the rings back if it doesn't
work out, But to give them to your daughter in
earring your baby daughter in ear rings form don't love. Also,
my earrings were pierced when I was a baby, and
I wish they weren't, and I have tried to close
them many times. They will never close. So I'm mad.
(09:47):
I'm my parents your fears did that too? How old
were you, like less than a year? Yeah, it's controversial.
A lot of people doing a lot of cultures to it.
I know, and it looks cute. A baby looks c
with little earrings. But let's go for bodily autonomy and say,
I maybe she'll be a very lazy, natural person who
(10:09):
doesn't like jewelry when she gets older aka me. And
now I always look unkempt because I look like I
forgot to put in earrings.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And I never thought about that. I have my friend Ali,
whose parents are Cuban, but she's very like fancy society
lady here in town. She's an olderman of mine, and
she's married like a you know, very rich guy whatever.
And when she had her daughter, she pierced the ears immediately,
(10:41):
and we went to lunch so I could like see
the baby, and she goes, I know you're judging me
for the piercers. Because she's also she's also Southern, she's
from Louisiana. And I go, I'm not judging you. She goes,
you know, it's a Cuban thing. Like I my mom.
You know, my mom really wanted me to do it,
so I did it. But I'm like, oh, now people
are judging me. And I was like, that's so interesting, right,
because it's it's from her parents' culture. But she wouldn't
(11:03):
necessarily do it because she's more of like a Southern
bell type. But her parents when she had the daughter,
were like, when you're gonna pierce the baby's ears, like
it's a whole rite of passage thing.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah. I mean, look, I'm not. I wasn't really mad
at my parents. I would tease them about it, but
I'm not. There's way other ways they fucked me up
in the head than five years anyways, So it's fine.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But that's funny.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But she pierced the baby's ears and then put these
diamond ear rings in the baby's ears.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I hope not that are from her, that are from Geno.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yes, right, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I don't want Geno anywhere near my baby. It's cursed.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
She should have just given it back. It's cursed to
give it back to hem.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, so Jason goes, I can give them back, but
they are earrings. Now do you want earrings? Gina? She's
being so like middle finger, fuck you, like she should.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Get so he can use diamonds and use them for
something else.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
She should yeah. Yeah, so Sean goes, let's watch Jasmine
tell Gino that she's pregnant with Matt's baby. Great times
play the clip, and in the clip, Geno's just blinking
a lot and he's acting all nonchalant. But then we
cut to him in his interview and he's really crying.
And Jasmine is watching this and she starts crying watching
Geno cry. And Kara is crying for some reason, this
(12:21):
doesn't evolve her at all, but she really feels for Gino.
And Jasmine has snot running down her face and she says,
blame I don't blame Gino for being upset. It hurts
to see him like that crying and he's and also
he's saying I never loved him, but he knows that
I did love him. I'm so sorry, Gino, and Gino says,
(12:44):
I've fallen for those crocodile tears before. I don't believe it.
She never loved me. Our relationship was one big fraud,
and Lauren says, I don't believe that. Last season, we
did a lie detector test and they asked, does she
love you? She passed with flying colors and she sucked
your toes. That's love, like go Lauren, good point. We've
(13:08):
all said the same thing. And even if she was
faking it, give her the green card. She earned it.
She sucked his toes.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yes, yes, agree. Anne had to be on him.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Anne had to be on him. So Andre and Georgie say, Jasmine,
if you were done with Gino, why not end the relationship?
Did you go? And I was like, did you guys
not watch last resort? She loved him, she cried, She
begged him please sleep with me for a year. He wouldn't.
He wouldn't bang her. So she said, Okay, if you're
(13:38):
not going to bang me, two choices. We either get
divorced or an open marriage because I can't live my
life without sex. I'm like feeling so insecure because my
husband won't do kiss me, look at me, love me,
you know so, and he chose open marriage instead of divorce.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
So so Jasmine doesn't like when people question her, so
she gets up and she storms off and she's like, yeah,
it's all my fault. I'm done with this. And I
was like, oh, stay calm. That's all you had to
do was steak calm. I know, because Gino's making himself
look bad enough and Sean, Sean is like the Jasmine
whisper and always has been. They have like this weird
(14:19):
special connection and Sean's like, come back here, Jasmine, do
it for me, come back here. Can we get her
tissues and like tell your side of the story, and
she's like petting her back and comforting her, and Jazz
it's like, thank you, Sean, thank you Sean, like they're
best friends. It's so funny, and she's like, thank you
for coming back for me, Sean, for me, Jasmine.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
They never see Sean act like this to anyone.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
No, I think she really likes Jasmine or has learned
how to deal with her somehow. So she is crying
and Matt says, for months she tried to get back
together with Gino. He threw her out, and Gino's like
she cheated and Thatt's like it was an open marriage.
It's not the same thing. And Brandon goes, is there
(15:07):
any way to get past this? Like, is there any
way we can just be at peace and get it? No,
there isn't no, And Jasmine says, he said, the only
way to get past this is for me to self
deport myself. To term do self checkout of this country.
But I can't leave my daughter. I'm feeling self. That's
(15:32):
a new one.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
That's a new one.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Self deport Well, no, I think that Ice has been
saying that for a while. You can self deport yourself.
Christy Nome has been like, you could go and self
deport yourself, we'll appreciate it. No one's doing that, so I've.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Never heard this term. But again, you know, I don't
watch the news.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
But now I just decided I'm gonna call it self
checkout of this country.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Self check out is way better, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Because I love self checkout and his or it's so
much better.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
No one's going to that hotel and your self check
out on the TV. So you check it on the TV,
get out of there.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
You love to talk to anybody, but no one's judging
you for your purchases at the grocery store. Yeah, it's better.
So she's like, I can't leave my daughter. I'm dealing
with the consequences of my poor decisions. See, she does
sometimes like take accountability. Sometimes she really does. She's like,
(16:24):
I know these are my poor decisions, and I'm dealing
with the consequences. But what am I to do. I'm
in like a horrible situation. And Sean says, I'm so
sorry Jasmine that you're going through this and you're having
to deal with this. She doesn't even look at Gino Like,
Sean is clearly on Jasmine's side, and I love it.
So let's move on to you and Matt happier times. Matt,
(16:48):
you were scared to face judgment from the Romanians, all
of Romania. You were scared of societal pressure. And then
they show the video of Matt proposing with the string
and Jazzmine saying I don't have an answer, and Sean says, Matt,
what did that feel like for you?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Just was his little faced.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
And Matt says, I felt like she's still in that
limbo mode and doesn't know what to do, and it
hurt that she didn't say yes to my proposal, and
what's your relationship now, Jasmine says, I am postpartum and hormonal,
so I'm sorry that I'm crying. Sean. I love you,
my girl. I love Matt and I see a future
with him, but I don't want to marry anyone again.
(17:33):
Even my lawyer says I should marry so I can
get a permanent status in this country, but I don't
want to give that power to anyone ever again. And
then that's when the girls start nodding, and like the
immigrants start nodding, like okay, I see, I see, And
she's like, if I don't, if we don't work out
with Matt, and he were to say, you use me
(17:54):
for a green card, and I heard that again, like
that would destroy me. I know he's getting pressure for
his family, and I feel badly. His mom calls him crying.
She thinks we're going to hell. She wants us to
get married, but like, I can't do it if I'm
not ready, and these are my feelings about it. And
Matt says, I just want to know there's a future
(18:15):
and you aren't going to get bored one day, and
Jasmine's like, I love Matt and he's a great father,
but sometimes I want to be by myself. Like she
did just get out of a marriage, right, and then
she's jumping to living with somebody else. She's had no
time by herself. And Andre is like, you can't just
say that to a man after having a baby with him.
(18:35):
That's you, bention. You could say, if you and Jasmine goes,
my feelings should be validated. And if I'm feeling this way, like,
that's okay, and I want to be with him, but
I'm just not ready for a marriage commitment, y'all.
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So then Dana and Dana and Michelle and nephew Anthony
who has somehow found a voice this season has come out.
Why are you here, Anthony? You are the only one.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
He's on Geno's side, That's why, because I needed something.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
The only one that will be on camera. Yeah, that
is on genoside. So Jasmine lights up that Dana and
Michelle are here. She's like, all of a sudden, all smiles,
and Sean says, you guys are related to Gino, but
your team, Jasmine, what happened? And Gino says, well, we
fought because family should support family, and they didn't support me.
(21:07):
And Dana says, who do you support? Gino? Which I
thought was a good sick burn. I don't really know
what it means, but it's a good burn. And Michelle says,
if you don't agree with how Gino sees things, you're wrong.
You're instantly wrong to him, and Gino says that's not true,
and Dana goes, that's his favorite thing to say. He
(21:30):
says that all the time, and now we are going
to start a counter of how many times Gino says
that's not true. Okay, So that was number one?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
So Sean says, Gino, there's this division between you and
the family Gino says, that's not true. That's number two.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Gino says, the rest of my family does support me.
Dana says, I can't be quiet anymore. The problem is
Gino didn't want to introduce any of the family to Jasmine.
Gino says, that's not true. I'm not making this up.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
People, I'm writing it down. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Gino is the most ridiculous, stupidest person on TLC because again,
he was essentially cuckolded in a way and babied whatever
the term is where someone doesn't have a baby with
you and then goes and sleeps with someone else and
has a baby with them, whatever the term is. You
would look like the innocent person in this season, but
(22:35):
you were looking like the villain in this relationship. That's
a real accomplishment that you could turn it around and
still make yourself hated. All you had to do was
say nothing.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, my feelings were so heard. I'm so upset about this,
Like I did hear it. I did think we were
going to work through this, and I thought we would
have a baby one day, and this breaks my heart.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah he could, yeah, he could get he would be
the Ariana of this season. Where he would go off
and host Love Island and be on Dancing with the
Stars and star on Broadway and she's not likable at all.
But but again, he would be the come out on top.
(23:15):
But he fucked it all up.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
He's playing.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yes. So Michelle says, Jasmine is alone. You kicked her out,
and Gino goes, she cheated and interrupts Michelle, and Dana
doesn't like when people interrupt his wife, and he's like,
let someone else talk, Gino, I will get up in
your face, and Gino goes, go ahead, and Dana says
I will and she knows, like do it then, and
(23:40):
then Dana gets up and gets shark nose to shark
nose and they're just like right in each other's faces. Dana,
you've never been hotter than me. Good job. And then
security steps.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
In to stop found I've found this fake.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It could be very well be fake.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Because Dana and Gina we're both kind of smirking under
their smirking, you know, smirking.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
So the security steps in. They make Dana sit down,
and he says, Gino doesn't want people to know the truth.
The truth is Jasmine was begging to meet your family
and you wouldn't. Michelle says, your sisters live and I
was like, your sisters? You know his sisters? Do you
know the brother?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
We met the brother one time?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Wow, But these sisters are very smart to not appear
on TV and be related to Gino. So apparently they
lived ten minutes from him, these sisters, and they're like,
has Jasmine ever even met them? Has she met your
best friend? And I was like, who's the best friend?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
And why friend TV?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
He is a friend? A friend is too embarrassed to
be on TV. So Sean says, Gino, is that true?
Are you hiding Jasmine from your family? And Dana says yes,
let me lay it all out. Gino knew one week
after she came here that he didn't want to be
with her. Gino goes, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I got my pen. That's for.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Alex. Alexi jumps in and says, I've heard him say
that they fought like crazy from the beginning. I heard it.
I heard it. And Dana says, you're just sitting here
like boohoo, woe is me? Like you're the victim in this, Gino.
I want to defend you, but then you open your
mouth and I say what the fuck is wrong with
this guy? This is your cousin. It's also giving Brian
(25:34):
of the other way when he just said to Luke
and the one that we just recorded where he's like,
it's really hard to be your friend Blue.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Oh god, yes, He's like, Luke, tell me one nice
thing about Madeline. Well, I want to get married and.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I want to live in Columbia.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, okay, so that's what's a nice thing about Madeline.
I love the lifestyle here and you weather happens, The
weather's amazing. The dollar goes for a her. Tell me
one thing about Madeline. Oh, she's young and hot.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Is that the right answer?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Dana's like, it is very hard to be your cousin, Gino.
I want to defend you, but when you open your mouth,
I say, what the fuck is wrong with this guy?
And Sean goes, please elaborate, Dana, what are you talking about?
And Dana says, what we went to lunch and he
said I knew the first week that I didn't want
to be with her, and Gino says, I never said that,
(26:31):
which is an accompaniment to that's not true, right, that's it.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I'm not counting it, Okay, you're not counting I'm not
counting it.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So he says, I said she was treating me like crap.
And Michelle says, you said you didn't even want to
be with her before you even married her. Why did
you even marry her? And Dana says, you make it
so easy for me to not like you. Gino, we
got it, Dana, this is your cousin in Thanksgiving is
(27:02):
going to be real awkward. So Jasmine goes that you
hear this, everybody. That's why there was no affection. That's
why there was no love. That's why he wouldn't bang me.
He didn't even like me. Anthony is now feels like
he can speak.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
It's way on the other side of the room.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
By the way, Yeah, they've stuck him in the corner
with bad lighting. Yes, And he's like, I learned the
timeline from Gino and she was fucking Matt before Last Resort,
And Matt says, which I don't like when they refer
to the name of the show. I feel like they
try to be sly and call it therapy. We went
to therapy. They would come like therapy, Yes, couple's therapy.
(27:41):
We all know it was Last Resort. So he's like,
she was fucking Matt before last resort, and Matt goes,
I guess he was there putting my penis in her
for me, because otherwise how would he know that? And
Gino's like, I will show the proof. I have phone
records of their conversation, and Jovie says, okay, So they
(28:03):
talked a lot. There was an emotional connection between them.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, I'm gonna show you
the text messages. Okay, So if you look right here,
this is a phone record screenshot from my Dell computer.
Here it is so you can see the screen shot.
It says they talked four times on April fourth. One
(28:26):
call was two minutes and the other call was nineteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Proof they fucked. Also this phone number she talked to
a lot, and this was Matt. He changed his number
at some point, and Matt goes, I never changed my number,
And Sean grabs the phone and goes, Matt, is this
your number? And Matt's like no, and Gino goes, I
went to Google and I gave it a Google. I
(28:55):
binged it, I asked Jeeves and it came up as
his phone numb and Jasmine says we talked. You knew
we were talking. We were friends. Anthony says, the weirdest
thing when you got kicked out, you said you were
living in a stranger's house, but you were living in
Matt's house. Well, yeah, I mean he was a stranger.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
She's like, I'm gonna have to go and live with
this guy I met at the gym.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, yeah, And Jasmine says, I was supposed to live
under a bridge. This is this.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Is her second reference to living under a bridge, because
she said that at the house she would sleep under
a bridge instead of sleeping in the room with Gino.
But she already had a hotel room with Matt and
the baby in it. But go ahead.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Maybe she's been reading Matilda stories about like a troll
under a bridge. Maybe it's in her brain. So Gino says,
I have a lot of stuff on here on my phone,
and he's scrolling, and Juliet goes, look, it looks like
he's scrolling boobs, boobs, boobs, boobs, like photos of boobs,
and Sean says, you should put those in a favorites album.
(29:59):
They might be he's here to find next time. And
I couldn't tell if she was talking about the boobs,
if she was jumping in on the boobs joke, or
if she's like, if you do have messages, why didn't
you put them in a favorites album so production and
all of us would not have to sit here under
these hot lights and wait for you to find things.
You old man on your phone.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yes, and she's older than him, but I think that.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yes, she's like, you should have just put it all.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
On one spot so you can find it, you know,
even just email it all of yourself so you could
find it.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
You know, hammers are rolling, like we can't just sit
here all day.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
And he has no and like, can somebody just call
this phone number right now? Literally call the phone number
right now. See if Matt's phone rings.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Which we're gonna get next week. Oh good Jovi is
gonna do that. So Gino says it started on December twenty. First,
they were talking every day, and Jasmin says, I would
call him for a ride to the gym because you
were not driving me, which she talked about on last resort.
She said he stopped giving me a ride to the gym.
(30:59):
He wouldn't give me a ride anywhere. I was trapped
in the house.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
It wouldn't help her in her driver's license or anything,
so she could go hersel.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, so g knows like they talked every day a
varying length, like sometimes for two minutes, sometimes for longer.
And Anthony goes the facts showed she cheated and she
didn't want him to take her to the gym for
a reason because the guy she was banging was there.
And I was like, Anthony, we saw her beg him
(31:27):
for rides and he wouldn't do it. Yeah, and she
threw a smoothie at him in a parking lot because
she was so frustrated. True, she was not good. Dana says,
is so frustrated. He's like rubbing his face off. He's
like doing this kind of thing, like, oh my god,
it's very funny. Now let's bring out Natalie. She has
(31:47):
a lot of feelings and she's here to share them.
That's what Sean says. I died so and Lippy tries
to get in. She's like, Jasmine, is this the girl
you pushed.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Natalie? We didn't need you. You're fake, we think you're
an actor. Get out of here.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, go ahead. So she comes on. She's like the
whole thing was traumatic. But I'm here today because Jasmine,
as a woman, I am disappointed that you put your
hands on me. And Jasmine starts to walk off, as
she does when she is cornered cornered, and Natalie says,
sit the fuck down, you poor excuse for a woman,
and security is holding her back, and Anthony says, you
(32:27):
manipulative succubis. You are a manipulative succubist.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
He said it like three times because he wanted to
make sure we heard it.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
He has a word of the day calendar and he
has just learned both of those words, and so he's
putting them together. He's so proud of himself. Yes, so
Sean goes, Jasmine, will you come back please for me?
And like, she comes right back, sits down next to Sean.
She's teacher's pet at this reunion. It's so funny. And
(32:57):
she's crying again, and Anthony says, when she's called on things,
she can't handle it, which is true. That's the best
thing you've said, Anthony. It's one hundred percent true. And
so Sean says, let's play the clip of the birthday
party where Jasmine calls Natalie a prostitute and pushes her
and Natalie starts yelling about Jasmine's filler and now it's
(33:18):
not in the right place in her face, and I'd
forgotten that part and it was very funny, good shob Natalie. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
And also the filler in her asses in the wrong place,
as we know, they put it in upside down.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Upside down. So Jasmine says, Listen, I was living with Matt.
That's true, but I was trying to save my marriage.
I was constantly reaching out to Gino, hoping he'd give
me a second chance. But so we were not done.
We had had dinner where we were talking about like
our relationship, and then I find out he's dating, which
(33:49):
again is hypocritical because it is living with Matt and
bringing him right. Agree. But again, as she points out,
we agreed upon Matt and we did not agree upun Natalie,
but that's pretty weak. I still do. She looks worse.
So Dana says, you asked her to dinner to talk
about stuff, and Natalie didn't know. Natalie, you lied to Natalie,
(34:11):
and Natalie's like, yeah, I had told him. The only
way I'm getting in this weird relationship is if it's done,
Like if you guys have decided you're getting a divorce,
and Gino lied to me. She says, I understand why
Jasmine was upset, but you don't put your hands on someone.
And I'm a fifty three year old woman. Good for her,
and I don't need to be called a whore. And
(34:32):
Darcy shakes her head like like it's disgusting to her,
Like Darcy at fifty has not made worse scenes than
this in the bar, She's like, she's right, it's terrible.
Is it terrible? Terrible? Terrible to act that way when
you're fifty? No, and never do it. Yeah, snatched when
you're fifty. You don't throw up outside your wedding when
you're fifty. Also, her nipple is just full out, yeah out,
(34:57):
just out, hang it out. It wants to se the show.
It's like, who's gonna storm out? Next? Was our Karen
Giermo getting back together? I see chemistry between them? Nipple quiet? Quiet?
Is Julia pregnant? Nipple? We don't know yet? Please be quiet?
You know what Troji looks kind of like a snack.
(35:17):
I'm glad we're married to him. Stop it, nipple, You've
got to stop. Go ahead so fast, so Jasmine starts
singing like some sort of nursery rhyme and ignoring Natalie,
and Kara says, I think you have narcissistic tendencies to Jasmine,
which is one hundred percent true. You don't have to
(35:39):
be a doctor to see that. I know we're not
supposed to self diagnose diagnose people on TV, but that's
what we're here for. It's very clear that she has
narcissis tendencies. So caar Kara, who, for some reason my
autocorrec keeps saying karaoke, she which is funny because she's
(36:01):
a singer. Yeah, but chata music, but chata. So she goes.
Kara says, G know, you're not perfect either, which I'm
glad she at least gets that in. And she's like,
but your two personalities together are horrible, which is correct.
They should they're oil and some other disgusting kind of oil.
(36:25):
They should not be together. So Sean brings up the
divorced discussions and how Gino is legally the father, and
she says, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard. And
Gino says, I'm revoking paternity and I'm taking a DNA test,
so good, which we knew, we knew because he's a
cheap He did not want anything to do with this
(36:46):
baby does.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
And he shouldn't have to and they don't want him,
and so great, everybody went great.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Great. So Lauren and Yara chime in and they're like, look, Gino,
we know you're mad, but don't use this baby as revenge,
like you need to let this go, just like let
her go, let it be, and g knows like she
needs to be held accountable. And Lauren and Alexi go,
we're losing patience with you. You need to let it go.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, nobody wants to hang out with you in this
house for three more days.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
No, and Gino goes, I won't let immigration fraud go
and everyone starts like rolling. It's just like, ye, Gino,
you lost me.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
You told you once he started, once he started talking
about immigration to the immigrants, it's not gonna go well
for you.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Not gonna go well. And so Jasmine won't apologize to Natalie,
even though Natalie did nothing wrong and did not deserve
what happened to her, and it's gross and you should
at least apologize, And I honestly thought she was going
to because sometimes Jasmine's very pro woman, and even after
the fight at the bar, she said, I think Gino
lied to her, and I think she didn't know the situation,
(37:57):
so I shouldn't even be mad at her. But Natalie
came on really hot, and Jasmine doesn't like to be
But Matt showed.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Up at the bar, I mean, Jazman showed up at
the bar with Matt. If we're supposed to take this
at fake's value, and I don't, I think it's all fake.
And I think that Jasmine probably off camera, found Natalie
and was like, hey, you know production made me do that. Sorry, sorry,
girl as possible.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, yeah, that's totally possible.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
And like said, dick doesn't work. Did you find that
out for yourself?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, good luck. I'm glad you didn't get in that
hot tub with him. Oh no you did, so, no
you did? Sorry?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah. Uh So we say bye bye to Natalie, and
Natalie says, you know, I need to get away from
that bitch. She is a damn lunatic. I wish I was. Yeah,
I came here to get my say, but I did
not get any resolution. And it's good there was security
there because I would have cut a bitch. She's dying
to be on TV. Dying she wants to be on TV. Yeah,
and then we say bye bye to Dana and Michelle
(38:54):
and Anthony, and as they're leaving, Matt goes, Michelle, you
look amazing, so like refing his spot on their team.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah. We've seen pictures of Dana, Michelle, Matt, and Jasmine
like hanging out watching a movie their buddies.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah. Yeah, so Sean says, I hope you can find
a resolution in the next fiscal year. We will see
you back here and talking to it again. We're gonna
circle back in January. Okay, So Jasmine says Sean, if
you don't see me anymore, I got deported and I
(39:29):
will send you a card from Panama and everyone laughs
because that's the funny Jasmine that we all know. So
onto the floor, idiots. We see the dog party fight
and Sean says, watching that video, Lauren, you were giving
Elizabeth a death stare. And Lauren's like yeah, because she
kept blaming it on Andre and saying that he read
(39:51):
our messages and he brought up body shaming at this party.
But I'm watching this video and Lauren's the one who
brought up the body shaming at the party. So it's
like way worse than she even thought it was. I mean,
Elizabeth brought up the body shaming. Sorry, Elizabeth brought up
the body shaming. So like Lauren had thought that Andrey
(40:11):
had gone through the messages and started the fight and
aired their dirty laundry in public, But it was Elizabeth,
and she shared our private messages publicly. And Andrea's or
Alexi makes such a good point. He's like, if you
were so concerned about this, like about our marriage and
her feelings and her body image, you would have talked
(40:32):
to her about it privately when it was happening like years, Like,
why would you bring it up publicly when you were
in a fight with her? And Libby says, why are
you getting so mad if it wasn't true. It doesn't
matter if it's true or not. It's the fact that
you said it at a party in front of everyone,
and it was a private text message between your friends.
(40:54):
So Libby says, we aren't friends anymore because we can't
trust each other, and Lauren screams way louder than anyone
has been this whole time. That comes you open your
fucking mouth and everyone's like, oh my god, she's a
little body with a demon inside of her. She's to go,
(41:16):
and Elizabeth is like, I open my fucking mouth. What
are you talking about? It's you open your fucking Are
you serious? Did you have amnesia? I think she has
a memento disease sometimes because like she does not she
constantly thinks that it's someone else's fault, like she didn't start.
It arrives me crazy. So Lauren has now calmed down,
(41:38):
and she says, Andrea, it seems like you enjoy this,
like stirring up shit, And Libby again says, why are
you getting mad if it's not true, which you've said
like five times already, and Alex again calmly explains, if
you want to talk about what was happening in our
marriage at that time, we can do that. But the
(42:00):
problem is you brought it up at a party out
of spite because you think we had done something wrong
to you. And Andre goes, you call me a dick,
and Lauren goes, you are a dick, and then Andre goes,
it's not important, it's just a word, like it doesn't
even bother him. Okay, he's called the dick who cares,
(42:22):
and Alexi goes, exactly, it's just a word, it's not important,
but what Elizabeth did is important. That was like a
betrayal of a friendship. So there's a huge difference. And
Lauren says, why did you go through messages from two
and a half years ago? And Andre goes, so what
I log in? I see the messages? So what I
(42:44):
was bored? The cable was out? What am I supposed
to I got to read something? I pull it out,
all the cereal boxes, I read the backs of those.
What else am I supposed to do? Read a book?
So Sean goes, do people do that? Do you? Guys
like go through each other's so now we get insight
into everyone's relationship. Darcy says, I went through Georgie's DMS
(43:06):
and I found some messages from ladies about the spa
flirting like oh can we go in the steam room?
Is the sauna hot? Like gross? Messages like that, And
then Kara and Guillermo says we've or Guillermo says we've
both done it, and Kara's like, I never have done it,
and he goes back in dr when we were just
(43:27):
not exclusive, we were just like fucking and Kara goes, oh, yeah,
we were just dating, but he was staying at my
house and like I saw that he had told me
I want to look at the moon with you. And
then I looked on his phone and he had told
some other bitch that he wants to look at the moon.
She loves calling other women bitches.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, she also real like gets her head going. And
then he told me.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
I was like, Okay, I don't want to say she
appropriates another culture, but she fully appropriates another culture she
does with a lot of things she does, and I'm
not just talking about the Bashada music. Yeah. So Yara
says Jovi's phone is too boring, nothing in there, and
(44:12):
he's like, as you.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Recall, mother nature does not bless him. Who would want
to fuck that?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
And he goes, yeah, one time she did grab my
phone and looked and she was instantly like, there's nothing
on here. This is boring. So good for you, Jovi.
You talk a big game about fucking strippers, but you
actually have not been cheating on Yara. So good for you.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Yes, yes, very happy look at her and look at him.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Okay, okay, yeah you are lucky to well that's why
he's never grateful enough. He needs to be damn grateful
that he is with her. She is a business woman,
and she is gorgeous, and she's smarter than you's so
and she's hilarious. Those are four things she has that
you do not have. So, I mean, he's kind of
funny sometimes so and I think he has a good job.
(44:59):
So I guess you may money. So Andre says, I
found so much material in these text messages, material like
material for the tell all to talk bad about our friends.
I found juicy material. This is gross. And she Lauren
wanted a tummy tuck because Alex looks at other women.
(45:20):
She and Alexi goes. Lauren had three babies. She was
working with a trainer and a dietician to try to
lose weight, and I was part of that journey. I
would talk to the trainer too. She was working really
hard to lose the weight. And Libby's like, why did
she need to though, that's gross, which I agree, But
on Alexi's like, because she wanted to.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
That was somebody care. Somebody said she had three babies
in three years.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Which is which she wasn't supposed to, and the doctors
all told her that could be a death sentence. But
she did it anyway. But that's okay, that's her choice.
It's her body. So Kara says, supporting her weight loss
journey is not the same as him body shaming her,
which again a reasonable point to Kara. I got to
(46:08):
give her like three ticks in the yes column for that,
And Libby says, well, he didn't say it that nice.
He was being a jerk about it. And Alex says, yes,
I am too brash. I was not sensitive, and I
was very like, if you want to lose weight, you
have to do a B, C and D and then
you'll lose weight. That's my fault because again he didn't
(46:29):
understand women and hormones. And he can lose weight in
five seconds if he stops drinking regular coke. And so
I say this.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
All the time to men. Men do not understand the
difference between a man and this. I'm speaking generally, Okay,
in general, a man could be like, oh I got yeah,
put on some white whatever. So what I'm gonna do
is I'll stop eating chocolate bars and I'll get it
down to one diet cocada and then like goal weight
one week. You know, it's just very, very easy in general,
(46:59):
don't come at me. General. For men, yes, if they
can't control their eating and everything, and then oh yeah,
I'll work out two more extra times and then I'll
stop drinking beer and then I'm good to go. Whereas women,
it's a mental thing. And I don't know if in
general for women food is more comfort or you it's
but it's not so easy for women to be like,
(47:20):
I'm just gonna eat a grilled like fucking Petia and Dylan.
I'm just gonna have steamed salmon and microgreens four times
a day and look at me, look at my snatch body.
It's not that easy. Women have entirely different makeup. And
I think that Alex learned a lesson here that you
can't just say why can't you lose weight? Because he
probably was like, I don't know why the weight's not
coming off. If I eat like that, I'd be a bird,
(47:41):
you know.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Totally, And we had guessed that he probably said stuff
like that, or just work out more, which like sounds
like an asshole. It's not necessarily body shaming, like he
just was callous and like not sympathetic and not understanding.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Buddy shit is like you look gross. Your body is
gross to me. It's kind of like what Gino said
to Jasmine, like he found her unattractive. He said her
p word was disgusting to look at, like you know,
that's body shaming.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, yeah, again, I think.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Maybe Andre is going to come with some receipts of
something that Lauren says Alexi said, and maybe we're going
to see that, but we haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Right, we haven't seen it yet. And the glee that
Andre and Libby are taking from, like exposing this secret
about their best friend's marriage, is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Yeah, I mean he said. Andre said before they started,
it's going to get steamy, like he's excited.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
He said, he loves excited.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
And also again and I hope I don't think they're
going to address it. But Libby, at that lunch when
they were supposed to make up, she said, I think
Alexi is verbally abusive to you.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
I hope they do aggress that.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
That is like egregious to say.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
I wouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I wouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
I would have tried to make up with her after
that when they were like classid. No, I just would
have said, since you said that, we can't be friends anymore.
But let's just be cordial, hang out with the group.
But that's it.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So and it wasn't coming from a
place of concern either. It was coming two years after
the fact, right when Lauren was going through this journey,
and it was because you were to fight with her
and because you called Andrea dick. So Andrea says, Lauren said,
you go to a bar and you don't want to
(49:28):
come home because you want the girl at the bar.
And Lauren starts screaming, and she's like, what is wrong
with you? You are starting rumors. And Alexi says, none of
that ever happened. I don't know what you're talking about.
And Lauren screams shut up to Andrea, like and then
she calls him son of a whore in Hebrew and
(49:49):
this she's like, this is how rumors get started, Like,
this is how marriages are ruined. This is how like
people get canceled for something they didn't do. Because you're
trying to be fun and start a rumor. And Andre says,
your panties are in a bunch, shove them up your ass.
Let's go outside and fight. And so he we are
(50:10):
Cliffhanger is our Andre and Alexi get a fight, and
who would win in that fight? It's not gonna happen,
but pretend.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Production wouldn't let it happened. But they did let Andrea
and brother Charlie have that fight that time.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
That's true by the pool no less.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
So if Andre can get in real quick before production arrives.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Now was Alexi ever in the Israeli Army? I would
guess he was because he came here after the mandatory age,
so he's probably learned some skills.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
And he's an EMT and he also works out a lot.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, he's super fit. And Andre has bulk bult On Reddit,
they were like literally like it's like fat ripped, it's
like fat muscles. It's like it's dad bod but hot.
It's like there's muscles underneath the dad bod, and it's
(51:08):
it's sexy to some people, I guess, But like I
see he is strong.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
I think, oh, yeah, he's strong, Like for sure he's strong. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
So then next week it's gonna be crazy because Betty
and Ron are going to find out maybe about Julia,
and Betty has her wine. In the first clip, she's like.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
She is so red faced.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
It is attached to her at all times. Betty, you
have a problem, because no sober person would think that
that hair looks good. That should have been our clue
that you have a problem.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
I think when Betty reached a certain age and maybe
it was like nine, yeah, not like thirty. I think
she was like, this is what I've got, this is
what God gave me, and I'm just rocking it and
it looks good and I'm keeping it.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
It's like someone I can't it's like something or like
you shave it, but then it goes right back to that.
So like even if she tried to shave it, it would
go right back orf. She tries to gel it down
and it just pops right back up. Yes, yes, yes,
yes she can't. She can't help it.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
And it looks like SEL's missing an opportunity to make
a chia pet head of Betty.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Yes, get Jonathan van Ness in there, like, let's do
a makeover show, queer eyestyle on Betty and Ron.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Yeah, just get get Reese from Seky's sister wife. Just somebody.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah. So it looks like at the house. I didn't
write down all of these, but it looks like at
the house. Andre and Jovi because Jovi is a shitster.
He's like, Gino calls that phone number, and let's see
if Matt is answering is he on his phone? Now,
somebody watch him to see if he's on his phone,
(52:54):
and we're gonna call it, and so we don't know
what happened.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
But don't call it from Geno's number because that number
is definitely blocked exactly, you know, Yeah, did Matt change
his number? Is that Matt Summer. It's very hard to
change your phone number and so.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Worth it, so not worth it if you've had it
for a while, it's not worth it. Yeah, I don't know,
but there's she's still no proof that they cheated, but
I think it's very likely that they did. But again,
like I kind of just don't blame her, like he
was horrible to her, right, cheating is not okay and
(53:31):
they should have just gotten a divorce.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
But also now I'm wondering, like when they lived, when
Matt lived in Michigan, was that his landline and she
would call him at his house and that's and he's like, no,
I didn't change my number, because he didn't change his number.
He's got the same cell phone. Number that was his
home number in Michigan. Mm hm and so, and then
Sean said, is that your number? He said no, because
(53:54):
it's not his number anymore. He didn't live in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Interesting, got some time.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
We just have to talk it through and then we
solve everything. God bless all right, everybody. That is our episode,
and I'm thinking probably this is going to be a
two parter because it's very, very long. So this is
the end of part two. I'll go ahead and tell
you that right now. Everybody. Make sure you're following Kimberly
(54:21):
and Katie over on a Date with Dateline, a very
very interesting, funny podcast about dateline. Can dateline be funny? Yeah,
sure it can. Got to listen to a Date with
Dateline to find out and make sure you're following us
over on the social media at date Dateline at Pink
Shade Pod. And if you're listening to this on Tuesday,
November eleventh, hopefully I'm in La area and starting on Thursday,
(54:47):
I believe maybe Wednesday night Thursday Ingrid and I'll be
doing daily updates from Bravocon that is over on the
ten dollars level of Pink Shade prom We'll probably sprinkle
a little bit on the Instagram too, So we'll be
following the Instagram for the but like things that are
like we'll say things. But if somebody was like super
hateful or there was like a juicy story, somebody said something,
(55:08):
that'll be on Patreon, super Cast, Apple subscription, wherever you
get your prime. But just for general, like look at
us here we are, that stuff will be on Instagram.
So please follow me because you know i'd her eyes
hoard myself for Instagram followers. M hm, it's funny, guys,
It's funny over there.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
It is really funny. She has funny reels. Sometimes I'm
in them. Those are the less funny ones, but they're funny.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
I think last week you were into Okay everybody, that's
it and we will see you later next week for
part two of the Tell All. Guests who will be
here Kimberly and Matt from Reality Gaze do it a
bunky takeover, but not because I'm dying. I'm dying a
different way at Bracon. All right, See you later. By
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