1062 - 90 Day HEA Tell-All Part 2 with Kimberly and Matt! - Pink Shade

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hello, Hello, it is I don't know what today. This
is coming out Saturday. This is Kimberly, This is Pink Shade,
and I am with Matt Maher from Reality Gaze and
we are talking about ninety day the Tell All Part
D and why I've been looking at Instagram. Mary Payne

(00:37):
is having a blast at Bravo Con.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
She just sent me a video of Meredith Mark's DJing.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I forgot that that's her new career thing.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
At like eleven A. I think this DJ, look, it's insulting.
This is going to make me seem old, but I
think you'll roll with me on this. People don't know
what it's like to be a DJ, because back in
our day a DJ had to use records or even
cassette tapes, hell even a CD. They don't know what

(01:13):
it's like to DJ, to mix, to when to do
DJ things.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Funnily enough, on our podcast, Katie always says, don't date
a DJ, or friends, don't let friends date DJs. They're
just bad news for women to date a male DJ.
Generally they might murder you. And it happened once, but
that we take that as they're all douchebags. But someone
one of our listeners just wrote and said, I literally

(01:43):
just realized that Katie did not mean a person named dj.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh oh bless her heart, Carl, Carl's wife as we
call it. Yes, Carl got it. Well, I I don't know.
I don't think Mary Payne's going to date Meredith Marks,
but maybe like yeah, but they're having.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Fun be a step down.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I am so glad I'm not there. I feel like
already the energy in Vegas is so much I can
only do lie. Like one of my friends says, oh,
do you want to go to Vegas for like five days?
I went no, No, wait too long. No, I want
to go for forty eight hours. And then that's it.
A bitch is asses, yes, but with that and then

(02:33):
also with the energy of Bravo kN.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
No, it's exhausting.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
That would be a lot.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
She has makeup on in every picture and like an outfit. No,
and you never can just sit in your hotel room
and get away from people and everywhere smells like cigarette smoke.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Because it's very too much. It's too much. Oh, I
don't give a shit.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
She hates Vegas too, so that's funny.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
And we went to that podcast Moving in Vegas for
five days that we were all we were we were
going to kill someone by the end of that trip,
not at each other, but just life.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, Katie loves Vegas. I don't know what it is.
She loves.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
One of my best friends loves Vegas too. He's sober, though,
and he likes to gamble, and funny, I go with him.
I don't really drink because I don't really need to,
Like I might get like a Ruman diet coke or something,
but like from the free one. But that's it. And
it's kind of nice because A you spend less money,
but also b you're better at gambling when you're not drinking.

(03:35):
It's like a thought. Who would have thought? Who would
have thought?

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I mean I thought that alcohol impairs.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean I still always lose
because I get excited and then but uh yeah, he
can do it for days. I can't. It's fine, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
I don't mind going for like a day and walk around,
like I don't look at the sites.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I want to go to the sphere. I want to
see the new Wizard of Oz and then I want
to fly back. And in fact, I might even just
do it and not tell anybody.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, then you don't have to socialize.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Then I can just go do that. I would. I
think I will. I think I'm gonna fly in that
day see Wizard of Oz and then fly out.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
This. Sorry about the.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Cool it's uh you you're still cool. So back to
these horrible people. I was shocked right off the bat
that in the previously on they didn't show Jasmine rubbing
her dirty underwear all over Gino's luggage.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
They kind of have dropped that plot line.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
They they never brought it up. Sean didn't bring it
up on this set. I assumed they're going to show
the footage.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
That was lost. We didn't talk about that, and you're right.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Like, wait, I'm waiting for them to show the footage,
like when they were showing if Rob and Jennifer had
sex on Hunt for Love. We were just waiting for
the footage to be shown.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Then we saw it and she couldn't handle it and
it was great.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, it was amazing. So we ended last time with
andre It challenging Alexei to a fight outside, which we
knew wasn't gonna happen because Andrea's all talk.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I think, so Alexi's not stupid.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
No, he's not stupid. So also I feel like he
could kill Andre because he was in the Israeli army,
so I feel like he has moves.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
And also did you see what he looked like by
that pool? Yeah? My god.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Mm hm. So Libby says to Yara and Jovi, you
just stir the pot and sit there quietly, And Sean says,
whose fault is it that all of this is happening?
And Jovie says there was a lot of fault y'all
exposed private information. And Libby is like, y'all, are you
sure you want to say, y'all.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
She's she's trying to have her name them moment, right,
whether that the house or she goes name them or
name it name. Yes, she was just going, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, yes, y'all,
but yes, y'all.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Also, why do you keep throwing Andre under the bus
when she's the one who brought up the body shaming
at the party and we all saw the footage of it.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Isn't it funny how Libby has become the bigger troll
than Andrea, Like she hilarious, it's she's she's it's interesting
to see Libby in a different light because I've always
had some sympathy for her, because I've always said on
our pod, Libby is the best of her family, her,

(06:50):
which is, as Jake said, the family that uh, the
family that embodies the values of Florida and and so.
But she is the best of them because her sisters
are She doesn't know girl code because her the butthole brigade.
Her sisters are horrible. Ye Her brother Charlie is horrible.

(07:12):
Their mom's a piece of shit.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Chuck is really kind of the only redeeming figure and
in their life, like I understand why they don't talk
to their family anymore. And they treated Andre terribly. Not
that he's great, but just see, so I always, you know,
it's like poor lib poor lib poor Libby or Elizabeth
And now she wants to.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Be called but this is because I keep calling her Libby.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I do too too as well. But this is like, oh, honey,
you trow trolling mm hm.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
And now we realize being the best of the swamp
is still not that great.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
You're still a slack swamp.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
So she says, also she's not funny, and Andrea is
a dick, but at least he's amusing, and Libby has
none of that. No, she so she's just.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, which Andre does too, but in different ways.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
He does too. But then occasionally he'll have a line
that you're like, okay, yeah, that was kind of funny.
So Yara says it wasn't right to reveal that stuff,
even though she also revealed to Lauren that Libby was
talking about her, and she told Libby that Lauren called
Andrea Dick, and then she told Libby that Alex told

(08:30):
them about the money that there lost. So she has
thrice started things.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
I wish if they show this. Maybe they will later
when they bring out Noga, but I don't, maybe because
they're going to talk about the Dick conversation. I'm sure again,
but yeah, she gets.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
She gets away with it. She looks all innocent, but
she's not. But she also is funny, which makes me
like her a lot more than Lara.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Is great Reality TV and Jovie even though sometimes you
get some of my nerves fishal and dis tell all
uh because I'm sure we'll talk about But I just again,
we've got the men's rights now club, as we say,
showing up all the men and the women are all
just sluts and stupid.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
You're absolutely right. It's like after the Last Resort where
the men just all ganged up on Jasmine and which
like women are whores, you could be pregnant, a pregnant horror,
and it just yes, men's rights they are or.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
The way they have, like basically the way that they like,
especially the way we'll talk about late, but the way
they come for Kara mm hmm. So anyway, we'll get to.

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Speaker 1 (11:30):
So Libby says, Yara plays a double game, and Yara says, look,
I never told I never said that Lauren called on
there a horrible person, which is the first time we're
hearing this, I think, and Elizabeth said, okay, fine, maybe
Jovi said it, but it was said, like you don't
remember now who started this entire thing.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I don't blame Lauren for screaming. I would have too.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
I would have too. I was getting very frustrated, and
Lauren says, no one called Andrea a horrible person. And
Libby says, then why did you apologize for it? Because
she and then I just.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Can't because you kept trying to be nice, do you.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
She just trying to be nice, and she's like, I
don't know what was said, but I'm trying to make
the peace, so I've apologized. She's like, you don't remember
if you called your best friend's husband a horrible person,
And Lauren is like, I was just apologizing for calling
him a dick, and I'm sorry your butt hurt. And
Libby says that's not a real apology. And that's when
Lauren screams again, and it's like, I apologize twenty fucking times.

(12:33):
She did rolled the tape. It's there and they were genuine.
She was crying.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Who has never apologized for anything, Elizabeth, Yes, she kind
of gave that that, like in that past bar like,
I'm sorry you had hurt feelings.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, I'm sorry that your feelings were hurt. But also
I think your husband is verbally abusive to you. And
I just said that on TV.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, she never APOLOGI so yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
So Libby's like, we bonded over the fact that we're
not Florida women. We don't like botox, we don't like
plastic surgery. We aren't those girls. And they do a
quick cut to poor Darcy's face.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Oh there with her tits out going heyday talking about me.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
That's how I'm snatched. I gotta snatch VIY.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
But don't you feel like it's a bit of a
jealousy thing, because totally what Lauren does with her bodies
none of your fucking business.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Also, you're allowed to change your mind, you're allowed to
not think that things are important, and then your body
changes and your val you just change.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
You have hashtag three under three and see how your
body feels exactly.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
And Libby's like, you got all this surgery, and I
was just confused, and Laurence's or jealousy kids or jealous
I had three kids. I had the abdominal dysdat diastis
whatever muscles, don't reattach in your stomach. She's like, and
I talked about that at the last tell all, so

(14:08):
you know this information. That's why I started wanting the surgery.
And Lauren's like, we bitched to each other that husbands
can be difficult, you know European men, and they're very similar.
And Andre's like, we're not similar, and Alexi's like, no,
we're not similar. I was like, okay, you're kind of
similar to that moment.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well yes, and no different, but there is, yeah, there's
don't you think too? I think Elizabeth and like Lauren
to me, is coming out way better in this tell all.
That's what More has shown her ass before and sometimes
she hasn't done it in a long time, not since
that terrible tell all where she was a mean girl
with Yes, who they're going to be on supposed to

(14:49):
be on last resort with Powell with Russ and Powell. Yes,
she was a mean girl with Powell. I forgot who
they are. I mean to that was really shitty. But
also that was like some people still punish her for that.
That was like seven years ago.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Seriously, like before she hated one afternoon.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
One of the people can change. And so I like Lauren,
I do, and but I do think Lauren and Elizabeth
probably did shit talk other people together. That's who they
were to one another. But yes, they were venting, but
they were also like, oh my god, did you see
this castleman? Or did you see it? They did that talk.
But just know, if you're doing that talk with your friend,

(15:28):
then your friend's doing that talk with someone else.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Right, That's a good point, and they might reveal it
at some point publicly, which is the Yeah, super Dicky,
do you want to shop talking?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Very pain, because Mary Pain and I just shit talk people.
I'm kidding. We don't Gingeringer, Ginger, don't you hear that
shit talking? You sit down, Ginger.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I almost died. We went on a golf cart and
I was looking for alligators and then I take you
to the beach never and I came back to life.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
You will not go to the beach house.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
My stomach literally exploded.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
And I bring me that receipt from the real, real
Mama's got returns.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
I love her, Okay, I love her. So Lauren's like,
we bitched about her husband's and Jasmine jumps in. Jasmin's
always a fun girls girl at these tell alls.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
She she is when she wants to be, when.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
She wants to be. She's like, it's very therapeutic to
have a friend to bitch about your husband too, Like
that's healthy. And I bitch about Brandon and my bitch
about Gino and Matt to Julia and Brandon, you better
not look at those messages. And also, Julia would never
reveal that.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Julia would never Julia doesn't like Julia doesn't like to
reveal a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
No, she doesn't. She start crying and.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Out upstates and have an anxiety and have a fucking
panic attack, BLUs her heart.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, so Andre says, I thought we squashed her and
then it was over, and Lauren's like it was And
then Jovi told me that Libby's told Yara that I
was making fun of her clothes and we had just
made up and I was done, and Libby's like, I
never said that Lauren made fun of her clothes. I
never said that she made fun of her And Sean says,

(17:15):
roll the clip.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Fine, I just went out. They don't do this on
Nati Day Fiance. A lot of times they never view
the evidence, and it's frustrating. It's so it's like watching
a debate with President cankles with taco tits when you
want to pull up a tweet that he said when
he's saying something completely different. That's the feeling. I would
have a lot of time to the tell all so this.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yes, please we have the evidence, it's right there.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Please continue this trend because I loved it.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, go ahead, I love it so and then you
get to watch the person after, like Libby being like, well,
that's not what I said. We just saw it. We
have eyes.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Liby look like she was smelling a wet fart with
her backwards.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Mouth, Like, how can I gaslight all of these people
and convince them that that is not what I said,
even though their eyes and their ears are telling them
that that is what I just said. It's Ai. She's
gonna say, it's an AI deep fake. It's not real,
it's not real. So and so they show the clip

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where she fully says like beware of be careful. Bitches
are fake Lauren's talking shit about you, be careful and
Sean goes, Libby, you stand by those comments. She goes yes,
because she can't admit she's just like deny, deny, deny.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
She is.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
She's a politician. She's a type of politician. And they're like,
is it. She goes, isn't it girl code to warn
another girl that your friend is talking about you? And
Alex is like their snakes, and Libby goes off on
how I didn't do anything, and Lauren accused me of
things that I didn't do, and so she's a person

(18:58):
I can't trust because she's accusing me of things that
I didn't do. Dan yeah, and Sean's like, so you
think Yura shouldn't trust Lauren. I never said that, And
Alex is like.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
You just said it, just did you just did?

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Guy?

Speaker 1 (19:16):
And conspiracy theories that you can't keep track of she
really fits well, and family politics. So Libby says, you
hurt us. We were fine. We had an understanding of
what was going on, so nobody's feelings got hurt. Now
to me, I kind of felt like she was alluding

(19:36):
like they had a plan to start to have drama
this season so they would get another season and Lauren
was taking things too personally, too much into it.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
No, no, I think that here's a look, this is
the Florida Contingent as we call them, is it. It's
a reality show, it is. I'm here for it. I'm
all for ninety Day Housewife, I'm all for it. A
lot of people were like, but honestly, I think this
is why this has been a better Even Jake admits
that usually he's sick of Happily ever after.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
By like episode eight, No, me too, and it's episode
three for me three.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Well what about this season because he didn't really.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
He was the season's been a lot better.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
He wasn't done until like episode like fifteen. Then he
was like, I'm out. It helped that Tiger Lillian Adnon
flamed out really quickly. But uh, but I know Mary
Payne has mentioned she's like, yeah, this Hay has been better,
and I hope they continue because the problem what I
was going to say, I think I Lauren, y'are and

(20:42):
Libby are really good at this reality TV thing because
things roll off of them and they don't take it seriously.
It does feel like Lauren doesn't or forgets that this
is a game. Yeah, this is a reality show. This
is not docuseries the people on ninety Day the other
way all that. Yes, that's way more of people's real lives,

(21:03):
but this is just Candy ninety day Candy, and she
is taking it that I don't know she has that ability.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Though, I don't know if her mental health is there
where she can see it physically on her with her
her tics go and she and she's just seems so
anxious and uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
And she's been so probably more than any of these women.
Like again, like this is why I will This is
why I will ride for Lauren, because Lauren's a fucking
o g meaning not only did she do it long ago,
but she was like one of the first people in
ninety Day to be like, we're going to talk about
my tics, We're going to talk about my anxiety. We're
going to show a messy relationship with my mom who's horrible.

(21:44):
We're going to talk about my body issues and how
I feel, We're going to talk about my body dysmorphia.
Like it's almost too I'm like, I would never share
that much personal information, but it's what kind of has
made her story very riveting, and you can't knock that
that that's kind of the way she's led her story.
But going into this new era, I say that weird

(22:07):
because my accent era. That's I don't know if that's
going to serve her, because I think that would burn
her out really quickly.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah. I think she's just gonna be left shaking in
a corner, just like, why don't I let these people
hurt me? And I know, I don't know if that's
good for her at all. And then poor Alex is
going to have to keep calming her down and taking
her away from situation.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
You can calm me down with a.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Dig yeah, so and yeah, and Libby is really auditioning
for Real Housewives of Miami. That's what she understood. She
understood the assignment. Yeah, yeah she is.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
And Joey is really working anyway, Go ahead, I keep talking.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
So, Lauren says, Libby and Andre told Yara and Jovi
that they had to choose between us or them, and
that's not fair. Are we in high school? And Sewn asked, Rarah,
are you friends with Lauren? She says yeah. Are you
friends with Elizabeth? She says, I'm not sure because she
knows she can't trust him, and Sean says, we're going

(23:11):
to take a break and we're done for today. Tomorrow
Noga is gonna come, so that should be fun for
everybody or nobody, and backstage, Lauren says, I'm so embarrassed
that I yelled. But they're so frustrating because they never
admit that they did anything wrong. And then they're all
bonding and talking and they go back to the house
and they start eating their takeout. Georgie leads a few

(23:33):
of them in a prayer, which I wasn't expecting.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
No, tell all, I did not expect to see this.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
It was she needs to be praying to Darcy's dress
to keep her nipplein.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Well, yeah, they really that. Yeah, it doesn't help that
she keeps sitting back, you.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Know, yeah, she keeps sitting back. I think she can't
sit forward because she doesn't know where her boom her
hands would go because they'd have to on her boobs.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
And that's not kind of a how to give you
a breast reduction. That's what she did.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's on Instagram like or I saw it on Reddit
like last you do it? Her aunt Stacey and too
much other stuff, a lot, a whole laundry list under
like the lower chin area, jaw area, something on the back?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, what you doing your back in a hump shade?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
I don't know, but it was all written on with
sharpie on her back and I was like, what are
they doing?

Speaker 2 (24:33):
What are they who looks at your back? I guess
if you're a woman and you're wearing a backless dress. Yeah,
you know who looks good in a backless outfit? Poodle?
You poodle? He I gotta say those creamy shoulders. And
he kind of has a feminine back, So if he

(24:54):
wears something backless, it's really pretty. I'm not attracted to
him because it's very it's feminine. Does it look like
a man to me? And it's also poodle but we're sisters,
but it is, he's got a really beautiful back in
a back what's okay?

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I'm gonna need to photousphic evidence it's yeah, yeah, yeah,
I admit it. Also, don't say creamy because that makes
me think of Nick from Seeking Sister.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Wise and his creamy alabaster shoulders.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Ross is he doesn't have hair back.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
There is this smooth No, he's very he's very look
when Jake used to because you know, a lot of
people forget we've known each other since college. We've been
friends for like twenty five years now.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, so I have Katie and I.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah so yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. So you have this
history with someone when Jake he he used to be
a little heavier and also he used to shave his face.
He would get on. We would go to gay bars
and he every time would get hit on by one
or two women that thought he was a lesbian. I
mean he could, Sorry, you have water in your mouth,

(26:03):
but really he gives the energy. The haircut, it was
kind of like this. He would always have like foppish
kind of gender nonconforming before people did that, and he
would always be touching it. And Jake likes to pose
when he stands and he puts his hand on his
hip like his mother. And when he was clean shaven,
I'm telling you, there'd be like there'd be some woman

(26:25):
named Ruth looking like a fucking you know, oh uh,
looking like, oh, what's her name? The singer who was
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But he got a drink out of it.

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He got a drink out of it.

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I mean, he'd be a beautiful drag queen.

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Speaker 1 (29:16):
Uh speA could have snatched. So at the house they
do the prayer. Gino tells Andre, I was shocked at
all the fighting with you guys. Were you being a dick?

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Andre?

Speaker 1 (29:28):
And Andre says probably so he can fully admit that
he's a dick. That's when he's likable, and yeah, he
gets in it. I have some but yeah, and then
some of them start playing beer pong and Jovi of
course wants to drink with Andre, and they bring Lauren
and the Alexi drinks and try to make friends because
Jovi is in his peacemaker era right now and is

(29:51):
it just or is well he stirs it up and
then he tries to make the feast joby yara.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
They where producers like, hey, if you could just because
Joe is shit, because he's not a peacemaker because again
he was trying to get into shit later on next
and tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Oh totally. Oh, but he vacillates very quickly every five minutes.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
But this is you know, they sit down and when
this kind of moment between Lauren's like when Laura said, look,
I never said you were a horrible person. She's like,
but your character is dickish, you are you can act
like a dick and he's like that is true, Yes, yes,
I can, It is true. Yeah. Yeah, So he actually
kind of has his men, and it seems like it's

(30:31):
going well, and then like out of like nineteen eighties
dynasty soap opera, around the corner of you, here are
you tagging out of mere again, and it's it's Libby
who's come out from under her bridge of troland.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
It's so and she of course joins right at the
moment where their voices are getting higher, but it's still
a peaceful conversation, and then she destroys everything she likes.
God Zilla was stomping all over the city and she's
she's like, why are you still talking about this? And
she's like we're going it's going well, it's fine, and

(31:06):
we're talking civilly and Lauren's like, I just want to
know who revealed the body shaming and Andre will not reveal.
He's like dodging and bobbing, and we even away from
that question and they're like we saw in the clip
that Libby brought it up and she won't own it.
And then that's when Libby comes up and is like,
why are you still talking about this? And Andrea's like,

(31:29):
why do you keep asking the question? You should you
shouldn't have left that night, you should have clarified at
the moment, which is a dumb thing to be mad
at someone about for. And then like, he's still not
answering the question, and it's almost masterful, but it's actually
quite obvious, so it's not masterful at all. And Andre
is like, you always remove yourself and from the situation,

(31:53):
and then Elizabeth is like, I don't give a flying fuck.
And then Andre says, let's get a drink and Lauren's like, oh,
you're removing yourself from the conversation after you just criticize
me for it. And then Lauren and Yara discuss how
Libby pushes away everyone, her friends, her family, the family
was a good decision, but that's a.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Little unfair to say they do push people away. But
that is a little unfair to say that her again,
her family.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Horrible people horrible.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, So then there's some fun couples hanging out in
Kara's room and they're playing truth or Dare, and Gierma
dares Kara to do a back roll on the floor
and she, I don't know drag race reference, okay, thank you,
and Katie would have got it. And Kara dares Brandon

(32:44):
to lick a door handle and he basically whistles out
and touches the very tip of his tongue on the.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Would you are you a truther or a darer?

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I'm a truther for sure. I'm terrified of.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I want to be a truther because I'm fine with it.
I don't really have a lot of secrets and I
don't have a lot of shame. However, I feel like
if I don't dare, then people will make fun of
me for not doing a dare.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, which is what happens. You kind of get bullied
into daring in this and these people, at least anytime
someone says truth, they're like boring.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
And then once I'm that little pisces in me takes over,
like like if you say, if I accept the dare,
and as long as it doesn't involve a snake or
a chicken which on a farm. But yeah, but they
they're like make out with this person I'm like, sure, okay,
and then I'm all in and then I get crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Good to know, So Kara, they're all just having fun
and Brandon dares Matt to such Jasmine's toes, and Jasmine says,
I have a foot fetish, and Kara says, we've all
seen it, which was.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
The funny thing.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
All of America saw it. He's he licks her toe
and then he runs to wash his mouth and they
joke about how I walked in.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
The bathroom bare foot.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
And then Germo is so funny and he's like, just
I'm imagining you sucking Gino's feet and why and why
and how? And Jess's like that was the only thing
he'd let me suck. And Matt says that's how cheap
he is trying to save on a pedicure. He can't
stop getting a dig in. Yeah, it's either Gino's old
bald or cheap with Those are his go.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
To but they're funny. All of his one liners about
Geno are real, where Gino sounds like a kid in
middle school who's not good at comeback shit. Yes, He's like, well,
Matt's just a short.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Butt, heead and I'll tell him that the next time
I see him.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
I'll tell him he's a manie like that's Ginos where
Matt's really Matt's fucking charming. I think he if he's
really found his and Jasmine can stick this out. And
I think they could become a a if Jasmine doesn't
fuck it up. I think they speak a couple.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
I think so too, and they could be funny on TV.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
They could be great pillow talk.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Mmmmm, I agree. So downstairs, Jovie again is now he's
left his peacemaker era. Every time he leaves the room,
he crosses that threshold and he switches.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I think.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
So now he's walked into by the bar and now
he's in his shit stirring era, and he says, Gino,
let's get that call that number that you think is Matt,
and we'll see if Matt answers. But again, Jasmine had
admitted that she and Matt were talking on the phone
because they were friends, so none of this would prove anything.

(35:47):
It wouldn't prove they were sleeping together, yea, but whatever,
So they call, it goes to voicemail with no human
voice so they can't tell. And upstairs they ask Kara,
do you still feelings for Gear, and she says like, yeah,
we share a child. I always love him, and Germo says,
we didn't really try in our relationship, and they are

(36:08):
starting to argue, and Jasmine's like, you should have chosen
Dare because she's funny. And then downstairs, Andre gets a
text from the number that he called, saying who is this?
What's your favorite scary movie? And Andrea texts, is this Matt?
And upstairs, Matt is clearly not on his phone, so

(36:30):
it's not him, but they're still convinced.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Worst detective agency ever flame down quickly because live is
up there, like when she goes up, it's so dumb.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
It's so dumb. So Kara asked Jasmine, do you love
Matt as much as you love Gino? And Jasmine says
with Gino, I didn't love him in a healthy way.
I was obsessed with him, which no one still understands why.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
I don't understand, but I believe it.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
I one percent believe it. I just don't understand why
I stand it. Now Daddy issues something, so she's like,
I don't want to be that way again. I love Matt,
I like his company, Our sex is the best. And
Matt's just like she just love me, like she really
fumbled this. Yeah, uh so, Jasmine dares Kara.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
I feel like for Jasmine, something she needs to work
through is she she does not know what it's does
not know what it's like to be in a relationship
with someone who accepts hers and accepts accepts her and
loves her for who she is. Yeah, so I bet

(37:44):
you she is. Part of her feels unable to love
Matt because it's so uncomfortable to be seeing I'm not
saying he's the best guy in the world, but I
do think he's a pretty good guy, a lot better
than Gino. She's used to abusive and she sick, and
that's the norm, so it feels normal. So it actually,
in a weird way, probably feels more uncomfortable to be

(38:08):
with Matt exactly. That's why I figured out drama.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
She has to. It's like if she if you grew
up in an unhealthy, toxic you kind of almost crave
the drama because it feels safe to you.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Right. Yeah, it releases cortisol, releases still some type of dopamine.
It's like it's, you know, our body. It gets once
your body gets acclimated to it, and that's all you're
used to. So yeah, anyway, continue, I just want.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
To do therapy. Last Resort does not do just they
need some better, No, they.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Don't, and I don't know what they're going to do.
I feel like, well, actually, I Jake, and I really
I liked James and Heidi a lot on Last Resort?
Did you not?

Speaker 1 (38:54):
I didn't watch that close closely?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I remember, and they were way better.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Okay, that's good.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
James and Heidi were great, and they brought Riba back,
and Reba's fantastic like Reba's actually, she especially on the
between the Sheets. Reba's the one that called out way
early on in that season. She said you could tell
she was not a Geno fan, and she's basically said,
what Gino is doing is he's weaponizing sex and using

(39:22):
it against Jasmine because that's the only currency he has
to hurt her. And she that is nailed it.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Oh right.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
She saw this, this kind of gross Gino that we're
seeing now. She saw it then but couldn't say because
he's like this for her, So I'm really, I really she.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Should have watched it more closely. I think I was
so just annoyed by everyone that they chose. I was
over it great Last Resort. I okay, I might need
to go back because that is actually spot on.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, and Heidi, Heidi would say shit too, and James
like they especially in the Between the Sheets, which may
be angry because we have to watch it. It was more
TV to watch. But if you're not watching Between the
Sheets for Last Resort, then you're missing parts of the good.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I don't know if I even knew they had. Oh no,
of course I did. Where they would sit and they
play games and yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Fast forward through the game. I don't give a shit
about that, but I do watch the Yeah, it's really
great insights because you don't really hear a lot from
the therapist during the show, but that's where you get
their takes.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Okay, good tip. So then so they're talking, Oh, Jasmine
dares Kara to lick Darcy's nipple. You've never seen anyone
as excited as Julia was to watch this. And also
we've already all seen Darcy's nipple because it's been out
all day, but no one's flipped it yet. So Kara

(40:47):
says she'll lick the boob, not the nipple, and then
everyone's dying and then Julia. It dares Gearmo to do
a sexy dance for Kara, and it's pretty hot. She
has a sandwich in her mouth. It was still pretty.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Until they did the sandwich part.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
But before that I didn't like lady in the tramping
of the sandwich. But when he was just dancing.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
It was hot. He's hot, he looks good.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Hot, he's getting hotter. I love the facial I like
when he wears his little cardigans.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
So downstairs they're like, where's Matt? Is he on his phone?
So this is when Libby and Georgie and Yara do
the worst detective agency in America and they go up
they would never sell the murder on dateline. They go
up to the truther Dare group to spy on Matt.
Like Katie and I have a like a fan fiction
detective agency that we randomly will pull people into if

(41:40):
we like someone on dateline. They're like, they're in our
imaginary detective agency. These three are never never being invited.
Their invitation got lost in the mail. So Andre and
Gino are calling Matt and Matt's phone is not ringing,
and Libby keeps going is someone texting you? Were you
texting someone earlier, where's your phone?

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (42:03):
And he's like, I have no idea, what are you
talking about? And they're just all staring at her, and
it's just terrible. It's as terrible as she is at
everything and being a good friend. So Matt's they're just
like we failed. He wasn't on his phone, so Gino says,
when I googled it was Matt's number and he must

(42:24):
have changed it, so that proves that he's guilty, whatever, whatever,
or you're just an idiot that you and you don't
know how to google works. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
No, it's not that he's I don't think it's that
he's an idiot. It's that he's so cruel and a
monster that he doesn't care. Nothing is going to prove
Matt's innocence in this because Jasmine, he's got the Madonna
horror complex. And Jasmine has to be a whore because
that's what we've always thought about her. It's a camgirl whore.

(42:54):
And then she became a real person who had real
emotions that he never wanted to introduce to his family
because part of him knew that she was better than him.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yep, and they'd like him more because she's way more likable.
So and that's crazy because she can be very unlikable.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
She's nuts, I'm fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
She will say it.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, but they still they still prefer her to uh him,
which I love that for him. So Georgie is downstairs
getting annoyed Kara lick Darcy's boob. He's getting very jealous
and Jovi now, why did you lick boob in front

(43:42):
of people? And now so now Jovie puts on his
doctor Ruth Era costume and he's like, when's the last
time you guys said sick? It's last time. It was
three months ago. You told me it had been in
three months, So it's been six months. Why are you

(44:03):
not banging your wife? And so Jovi says, why don't
you just go off sex? And Georgie says, Jersey's always tired.
And she's like, I think you're getting it for somewhere else.
Hot lady, young, hot.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Lady lady at sonnayah, I want a.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Little rub down, Andrey goes, I think he's getting it
somewhere because if you go for two weeks, you're going
to explode. And then they have a brief.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
I have wet dreams, and I'm like, Georgie's really really hot,
and I think he has probably a beautiful just pork
loin of a schlung, but I still did not want
to hear that he has wet dreams.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Also, the poor bartender that has.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Been hired to bartender Jake and I think that they
should next time have like because Jake thinks they got
a bartender because last time they overserved themselves and got
too drunk.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, that could be or not enough, but or not
if they didn't give it have enough.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
So I like the bartender, but we think they should
also have rotating people, like wouldn't you love to see
Kimbally being a bartender?

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Like why not watch what happens? And he always says
exactly the.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Bar Annie of David and Annie or even the other
Annie are actually Robert of any like having Robbert. I
think that would be so fun.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
I love that idea. Robit inception. So Jovi says you
should have sex with your wife, and Joe Darcy says
I'm hormonal, but I want romance and he's like, thank you, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Snap.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
And also he's never freaky. It's a little so Jovi's like,
you should go upstairs and renew your six month membership,
and Georgie says, you want to go upstairs and have
sex like a robot? Go quick, and she's like sure,

(46:05):
and everyone's like do it. Go rock your world. And
then we see on their camera in their room they
get in bed and he just falls on top of her,
like weekend at Bernie's Style.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
And bring back.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
They ride to the studio the next day and Kara
says that she tasted Darcy's perfume on that hour.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
That was great. I loved that line, which she said,
you said it so not even to be funny. She
said it kind of real and we're all which she
said it we all kind of just tasted. I did
secret perfume and I went, I can taste that.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah. So Matt says, you know, I thought that people
would be mean to me, but they're nice. And you know,
Kara says, I wanted to not like you, but you're
just so likable. I can't. And I thought Jasmine was
gonna be so much drama. She came in hating Jasmine,
and she's like jas was pretty nice too, and I
was like, you forgot about the first night where you're screaming,

(47:16):
and she's okay, it's fine. So Sean starts the day
with Kara and Guaramo and Kara, you're in the house
that you two bought together, and Giamo's like, Yep, it's fine.
I'm totally fine with it. It's totally fair. And Kara says, yeah,
he's on the deed, but I'm the one who got
us the house, and he shouldn't have fifty percent ownership

(47:39):
if he didn't contribute money. And Giamo's like, because you
took my paycheck and you put it towards food for
our child and clothes for our child, and that was
often more than you were putting in for the house.
And Alex says, well, you can't discount what he put
in and car. You can't give him back the money
he bought. And Kara says, but the money isn't building equity.

(48:01):
I ate it and I pooped it out.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
I pooped it out.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yeah, came out of my bumble.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Kind came on my Chota bumhole.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
So Guierremo says, look, I came from nothing. I will
go back to nothing. It's just money. It's not worth
fighting over. She can have my fifty percent, and Matt
says it doesn't seem fair, and Guillermo says, well, there's
no equality in our relationship, and that's where Matt is
going to take over, where we see the saddest couple
of our season. Further, it's.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
It's it is, like Jay keeps calling it marriage story,
but it's also riveting to watch because I think these
are two people that you know, I don't know y'all
probably did as well. But we came hard for care
last of the part one because she was horrible. She
was horrible on the tell all and horrible to Jat
and like you're you're not on the wrong right side
when you're defending Gino, like you, I agree, something's off

(49:01):
and I feel like she just wanted screen time. And
but with this, I think they're definitely gearing up that
Karen Guillermo I bet for sure are going to be
on last Resort.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
But yeah, so there is this, but but it's let's
talk about it because there it is. I what I
find riveting about them. These are two people who got
together when they were young. She wasn't really that young,
but don't forget he wasn't he like twenty one or
twenty two.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
She was a lot younger than her, very young, yes,
but in some ways he was more mature than she
was in some ways.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
In some way, you know, if you go back to
their old seats, were they on naughty Day or were
they in love in paradise?

Speaker 1 (49:44):
They were ninety day and he came here and he
had he I love that they're acting like. He never
had an issue with her drinking before. He totally did.
That was one of the issues about the their season
was the day before the wedding, he said, I think
you drink too much and you party too much, and
I think we should be settling down and you should

(50:04):
not be doing that. It's not appropriate not do that.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
And also, if you remember, he showed like signs of
being super jealous and things like that too.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yes, treating that's true. And on their tell All she
revealed that she had cheated on her first or her
long term boyfriend, and they brought out that guy who
was like a DJ. He might it wasn't the same
guy though he was.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah, it definitely gave her to edit, though I feel
like as we talk about it, they really seemed to edit,
really seemed to put care in a bad light, and
I don't really know that's all deserved.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
I agree, and people on Reddit hate her, and I
feel like I'm in the twilight Zone because I I
think she has some unlike Hobule qualities. For sure, her
first season she had a bad edit, but this season,
I felt like she had a fine edit, and they
still hate her, you.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Know, honestly, It's like I think a lot of it
so much is women really need to look in the
mirror about the way they talk about the women, because
that's it. That's exactly Lauren gets the same thing Ya
has gotten. That's probably why Libby and Lauren bonded. But y'all,
you will let these it's it's the difference of talking
about another show that we love. We love our friends

(51:20):
Kim and Kyle of Craig Carey, Like when we were
first starting out, they had us on and were so wonderful,
but we would see like Kim would get so much
hate for saying shit, and no one would ever say
anything about Kyle, and Kyle's like poodle. He says shit,
you know, And but I just and I say that
for listeners' I said this other day on our show,

(51:42):
just like think about how you talk to and the
expectations as a woman you put on other women, and
are those things fair because Kara, maybe Kara drinks too
much and she parties too much, Okay, but that doesn't
mean that Giermo doesn't want care to have a music
career full stop. And this is who she was from

(52:05):
the get go and told him that this was her dream.
He just doesn't understand what it's like to be with
an artist. He has very probably where he other probably
more traditional ideas about family and what the problem is.
These two people didn't really talk about their values, because
especially when you're twenty, you don't know what your fucking

(52:25):
values are. And now that's but this happens so often
to real people in real relationships, and that's why I
hope people instead of I think another reason people go
for her is because they somehow see themselves in her,
or that she triggers their relationship triggers them, and instead

(52:46):
of looking at themselves, they want to go online and
keyboard warrior this person, I agree, that's kind of my
soap bobble.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
He quit his job without telling his wife.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Armforces without telling his wife.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
He got healthcare through that job for their child and
quit without telling his wife. Yes, it's things that most
women would find unforgivable, but because.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
He's I love her or he said he didn't know
if he full stop if someone said that to me,
Well someone has said that to me, and guess what,
I broke up with them, Like that's what you and so,
but I didn't have a kid. She did, so now
she's got to unpack this, and so it's just this

(53:35):
is why this felt so one sided. And like even
like with Giermo, that like the way he acted like, oh, well,
I just gave her the house. I don't need that.
I really feel like he's trying to get a hero
edit out of this.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Anyway we'll get up into So, yeah, she cheated on me,
but there's no proof.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
That there's no proof that she did, so, you know,
and so you know, he's he feels like that the
you know, you know, she asked like, if you had
a child, would you spill be together? And I think
the answer to that, of course, is no. And he
tries to say no, that doesn't make a difference. I'm like, well, yeah,

(54:15):
that actually does make a difference. He says, the way
and I want to know I don't want to tell
you what Jackson, because he kind of brought up I
want to see if you got this vibe. As we
go along, but Garl starts talking about he starts dropping
these things all throughout this, like, well, it's the way
she speaks to me. She speaks down to me. And
then he even invokes Kara's mother, who's not even there,

(54:36):
who said, well, Kara's mother said that she speaks badly
to me, and Kara seems shocked by this, and she's like, well, generally,
sometimes my general my general tone can be sharp. I
know this about it. And Garyl says, well, we're talking
about words. The way you spoke to me is not right,
and Kara even she tries to press that and talks

(54:59):
about it later like what she actually said to him,
and he never actually says either he's making it up
or he doesn't want to say what she said to him.
So it's a little confusing on our end.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
And then I don't know, give us an example of
the words that she used. The words that she used,
but we did see in their first season she talked
down to him all the time.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
She did like she did, and.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
She's super bossy and dismissive of him very she knows
that it mastulates.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Him all the time. And I don't even know if
he could say those words because he I don't know
if he has the awareness to know that's what's happening
and he needs to feel like a man and the
machismo that plays in and all that kind of stuff.
You know, it's a good point, but then I don't
I don't know you felt about this, Jake, and I
kind of got offended when Sean was like, well, does

(55:53):
your music career bring in money? And we're like, that's
I don't know what. We're artists, so that was kind
of like, yeah, come on, you know that doesn't have
and Karen kind of said it takes a long time
before you build that, like, yeah, she's building a career,
but she basically says, you know, she kind of gets emotional, says,
I don't know how I was married to someone who
doesn't support me. And that's when Germo says, well, it's

(56:15):
not that I don't support her, is that she goes
out drinking and partying until four am. And it's interesting
because the women are like so yrs like I go
to New York to be with my friends, and even
Libby is like, yeah, it. He doesn't want to say it,
but it's almost like he wants to say a mother
with children should be home at midnight every night.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
That's what I expect from her.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
There's nothing wrong with thinking that. Some people believe that that.
That was never Kara. I'm not I'm not saying she
should go out. Maybe she is partying too much and
we're going to talk about the other guy later.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
But so yeah, and Andre says she's not wife material.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yeah, like oh yeah. Joey's like, I don't. She's the
one she keeps going out. This is pro which I'm like, jobey,
but you want to go out and see strippers? But
that was that's husband material. You're not husband material because
you did that. You still do that to Yara, and
now she just accepts it because she knows you're not

(57:17):
gonna fucking change. So the hypocrisy of these men movies
so angry. But so because Julia too is like, yeah,
but she goes home with you, it's fine. Now. Giaron
says when she drinks, she's a different person and she
knows it, and I would get scared. She would flirt
with and talk to other guys, and Sean even asked carry,

(57:41):
He's like, do you think you become a new person,
a different person when you drink? And Kara said, well,
I think I'm a lot more fun when I drink.
I mean, I do get the vibe that Kara on
some level realizes she has maybe a drinking problem. And
you know, Gamra said, we agreed though, that she had
a problem, and she said she stop drinking, and Kara said, well,

(58:02):
I did, but he didn't do anything. He took no
actionable steps. Do you believe that?

Speaker 1 (58:10):
She said he was still being withdrawn and distant and
in two weeks and it didn't change fast enough for her.
So she's like, then I'm going to just drink because
he still had those feelings from before. They don't just
go away. I think she didn't give it long enough.
But I can see him being distant for sure.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
He's very stubborn. They're both very stubborn.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
They're both are and I can see him not supporting
her career. I can also see her flirting as being
part of her career, like making connections at a club too.
But I can see it both ways. They're both not perfect.
It is.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
That's what's great about Yes, that is what's They're both
not perfect in this and again when people want to
go on Reddit and be warriors, like try to think
about that like anyway, but whatever.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
And they still love. They love each other too where
there's no crazy age difference. I mean there is an
age difference that was problematic, but it wasn't as like
they're not like ATEBBI you know, and so and they
usually love. It's like real love, you know.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yeah, yeah, it was real love. They and they have
a beautiful child and they both seem like they want
to be committed parents, but I don't know. So Garmo
says she doesn't like it when people tell her what
to do, which is true. I don't like that he
keeps throwing in these things that her mom said when
her mom isn't there to talk because he's like her

(59:42):
mom said, she's the type of person to do that,
and she told me to be careful. I'm like, okay.
So they show a flashback and let's talk about the
DJ as you talked about always problematic and Sean's like, well, Kara,
I get there. They're starting to talk about. Kara says,

(01:00:03):
I give depression. There's something that you're holding back, and
Kara said, well, you know, if I went up to
him and asked him to hook up, he would do
it in an instant. And I went, okay, like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
That, I don't know, why, what do you think about that?
I didn't like it because it's it sounded like bragging
or something. But also I don't like when people blame
a woman for men wanting to sleep with her, because
she also has to be a willing participant. So if
there's no trust, you have to trust your woman. Because
I think most men on the street would fuck Kara.

(01:00:36):
Anybody on the subway would fuck Kara. But that's not
her fault. And if she doesn't want to fuck them,
that's what really matters, because then she's not going to
do it, and so that's Guiermon needs to trust her
that she wouldn't do it. And I think she thinks
this guy is gross because I don't think she's attracted
to him this detail.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
No, I don't think she is, but maybe we're wrong. Yeah,
that's a good point. That's a good point that we
didn't because obviously I would have reservations. But yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Think get why he's uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
I get why he's uncomfortable, but then he says, that's
it's thinking not about him, Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
It's not about him. I think that any she couldn't
hang out with anybody because then and I think any man,
any man, she's really good looking, and I think, I mean,
I think even if she had a lesbian fred or
a by friend, that they would want to sleep with her,
and he might be jealous, but that doesn't mean she
wants to sleep with them, and so the onus is
always like on the woman for that, even though she's

(01:01:37):
not doing anything in it. So I get her point
in that I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Like on a deep need and there's nothing wrong with this.
I think, I don't know, doesn't want to use the
word baby, but I think Yarima wants to be taking
care of more emotionally and physically and didn't realize he
married the wrong girl. That is is not Kara.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
She's not sugarcoat things, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Lauren is independent, but she has that she takes care
of out. She likes part of her likes that Amber
and Daniel Daniel Daniel ranch dressing, who just had that. God,
their baby's so fucking cute. He's so fat and looks
just like Daniel. I want to buy his looks. But
like or like Emily, Emily and Kobe those they all

(01:02:25):
kind of like to do those things to take care
of their household. Garama wants that, and that is Kara
is so in the farther opposite uh direction of that.
She's never like best She's she's a hustler.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Yeah, she's a she's more money focused, career focused. She
has a bunch of businesses. She was making balloon art.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
She's doing realist. Yeah. Yeah, she's terrified poodle phobia. I
love that. That was fun when he was terrorized. But well,
oh well, so, yeah, we're talking about this a lot
because I think and the reason why a lot of
people were talking about them a lot because I do
think this is the most rimoning couple that we have
on Hey this season. And so but yeah, he says,

(01:03:13):
it's not really about him. My problem is I talked
to her and she does nothing about it. So it's
interesting they both are saying that I talked to the
other person and they do nothing about it. So they're
not able to meet each other's needs at all. And
and she says, I feel like he was fine with
all of this, and then I came to the US
and I got with my people and my friends, and

(01:03:34):
now it's a problem for him. I believe that too,
and he probably and he says, She's like, do you
trust him? And he goes, sure, I believe her, which
didn't sound the most convincing, and he says, but he's like,
you know when I when we have problems, my way
is to let it go. I'm like, but you're not now,
and he says this, you know, Kara was the love

(01:03:56):
of my life. And you see Karam like you said,
because they love each other and Karris and you know,
I wish it had gone different because he was my
ride or die and we said it start to come together.
And then Sean Robinson says, in her way, but let's
talk about him maybe cheating on you. Let's break it,

(01:04:17):
and so they brings up this incident. He comes home
basically the mom said her mom is like, honestly, it's
a failure of a tell all that they didn't bring
the mom on via skype at least seriously.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
I don't know if they knew that she was going
to be this important.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
No, because they brought her in a lot and they're
talking about we saw a flashback we still never heard about.
She telling Karras she to be careful because he came home.
He was wearing his work clothes, but he came on
an hour late. He showered, he said he was out.
It didn't make sense because Gary was like, I was
out fishing. She's like, but you came from work, so
why were you fishing. You don't fish in your work clothes.

(01:04:53):
You wear wets. It doesn't add It's suspicious. I don't
think the thing was suspicion of him coming home and
directly showering, but his excuse or response or defensive yes
is suspicious. Yes me. And honestly, even though they love
each other, I could see either one of them, probably

(01:05:13):
a little bit more gearmo of potentially having an affair
because in a way, they both are resenting one another
right now, and when you resent someone in your couple,
you also it's really hard not to actively hurt them
because you're hurt, so you want them to hurt, and
then it creates this vicious war of the roses cycle.
And then if you're too late to come to therapy
because you both hate each other and resent each other

(01:05:34):
so much, and it's like last resort does need to
happen for them. And I think it truly is because
most couples, in my experience of working with when I
used to work with them, most couples come to therapy
too late, too late, yeah, and they're already done so
and they tried and then they had to fall out.
So I don't know. So anyway, they went once.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
They went to one session.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Once and Sean says, you said in therapy you did
and love Kara, and he brings up this mother of
your chi your He's like, the mother of your child
is your woman, which I understand culturally where he's coming from.
But for Kara, they really both just want to know
do you love me and want to prioritize me? And
they can't say it. He's like, I don't know, and

(01:06:19):
you see Kara's kind of face fall and she's like,
I'm lost, and he says I'm lost too, and Jasmine says,
you know, this is a cultural thing for him and
they really need a place where they where he can
dig into his feelings. More cut to the bust, the island,
you had a therapy island, okay, And my next notes,

(01:06:39):
I have finding Mister Christmas Corner, because that's where we
did our finding Mister Christmas Corner on our Happily ever After,
which is a great show on Hallmark. You can listen
to on our Hey recaps. But anyway, it's so holiday hunks.
Melissa Peterman and Jonathan Bennett are so funny. So okay,
so now it's time to talk to Julia. Julia comes

(01:07:00):
over to Sean and it's like, I'm scared. I don't know.
Sean Robertson is like the comforter. This tell all, it's
a different Seawn a little bit, and I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
People always are like Sean's not that great. I love Sean,
and this season I feel like there's nothing Sean can't do.
She's the Jasmine whisperer. So if Jasmine is starming off,
she's the one. She'll be like, Jasmine, do it for me,
please come back, do it for me. And she'll be like,
I do it for you, Sean. I love you, Sean.
And this just sits down and now she's like Jasmine's

(01:07:31):
or Julia's like therapist. She comforts the back.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Yes, I still don't know if Sean Robinson watches the shows.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
I still don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I still don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
But these people she at least has met at tell
All's before, so she knows.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Do need to give what she's given. She's starting to
give Auntie sean Es yes, and that I'm okay with that.
I want more of Auntie sean Yes. So she calms
Julia and so let's talk about Brandon and Julia. Julie
is immediately crying, crying, and she says, it's been tough.
Did we know they had miscarriages before? I didn't think

(01:08:07):
we did.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
I don't think we knew that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
So she said, you know, she talks about having miscarriages,
but now she's six months pregnant and they were just
like yay, and she She's like, but I'm having panic
attacks and I'm so paranoid and I'm I'm pushing on
the baby every day to make sure they're kicking that
my baby. This is this is a normal thing in
pregnancy of human being. That my mother was this way

(01:08:31):
with my older brother because she had had miscarriages. But
we talked about this a lot on our pod. So
I'm not going to go in into it here, but
I do want to say, like if I've said this
before I actually feel I feel for both of them,
of Brandon and Julia, and I do think they actually
love each other. But if Julia doesn't get help for

(01:08:53):
her general anxiety disorder, which she needs to be dedicated
for it, it's so bad, she needs to be in
therapy for it. It's so bad because she what she's doing.
And I remember seeing this a lot with my friends
but also clients. What the anxiety tells you that if
you get here, if you get this goal post, if
this thing happens, then the anxiety will go away.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Guess what, it never goes away. It's in your brain.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
It's in your brain, even if it's like about things
like dead where you're like, I'm one hundred thousand dollars
in debt and once I get that paid off, that
I'm not going to have anxiety anymore. No, you are
going to feel better and you are gonna That might
not be, but if you don't have the ability to
see your anxiety, to have a relationship with your anxiety

(01:09:42):
and meet it head on, You're never going to be
happy and I'll find.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Something else to be anxious about. Your Your anxiety is
a lying hoe and it will be a lying ho.
I've had it since I was a kid debilitating, and
I think it on medication to I was like twenty
five and it was life changing, and I was like,
I thought, I thought everyone felt this way all the time,
but they don't. And I was like, oh my god,

(01:10:09):
I cannot feel this way all the time, every day
thinking I'm going to die. Sure, okay, great.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Yes, so you know because especially well poor girl, because
especially what's happened in our childhood, especially our brains, then
there's so much neuroplasticity that it wires our brain, then
it affects our body chemistry. So that's sometimes why I'm
not telling everybody to get on drugs. Did you do
what you want to do? But I'm just saying that
it sometimes we think it's again, you know, it's something

(01:10:36):
that really totally going off on a tangent. Sorry long show,
but whenever my father was when he got sick and
I moved to Oklahoma and then it was like eighteen
months and then he eventually died. U fuck answer. But yes,
when yeah, you know, fuck answer. But when I we
were doing Jake and I had to sponsor like this

(01:10:58):
medical app that we're sponsoring show at the time. So
we had like free medical care like service concierge service
flocky year, and so we would get testing done like
every three months. And it started literally about a month
before I found out my dad was sick. And what
I noticed all throughout that was my cortisol levels and

(01:11:19):
how my court which is your cortisol. That's y'all, that's
your stress drug. To give you an example, that's why
you get STIs in your eye a lot because who
knew medical pink shade, But cortisol, it thickens, it thickens
liquids in your body. There's definitely a more medical medical
bunky can come from me. So it sings like you
get a stye in your eye because the oil in

(01:11:39):
your eye is thicker and doesn't drain as well, and
it clogs the poor and you get a stye. It's
why people it leads to why people have heart attacks
more because your blood is moving thicker in your body
and not as able. So that is very very shitty
shitty Oklahoma boy science there. But what I noticed is

(01:12:00):
is that I remember when things were really bad with
my dad, and at the time, like things were bad
with my dad and this there was just these horrible
people at the time that were in our Facebook group
trying to blow up our Facebook. It was just a
really stressful time. They're gone, yeah, gone vi trolls and
but they I noticed all throughout the that my cortisol

(01:12:24):
levels went up and up and up and up, and
I thought, oh, because I kept thinking I have a
fucking degree in therapy, but I kept thinking I can
just calm myself. And it really it made me hit
me that no, our body is reacting and have chemical reactions.
And when my cortisol, I remember, at one time, is
triple the level it's supposed to be. I don't have

(01:12:46):
the physical capacity to calm myself down. I need help.
And that's the point that Julia is gonna have to
get sadly because she's gonna have this baby and the
anxiety probably is going to get worse. Yeah, so it's
just sorry, but yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Just and I think Betty and Ron do not help
the situation.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Betty, Betty and Julie are the same full stop. They're
the same anxious person and they can't not control things.
They both should fucking go to anxiety therapy together. I
would love that. Anyway, Good little we're doing great. Yeah,
it'd be great. So anyway, So basically, the kind of

(01:13:29):
thing is that the group finally they find out they
haven't told anybody, and the group says, you gotta tell
your parents, and even Lauren, Yara and Libby are like, honey, yes,
your mother in law is gonna come over, but you're
gonna need the help. Take it, take it, take it.
You don't she doesn't. They're kind of saying, you don't
realize how look you are for that, and she's trying

(01:13:50):
to hear that. So she decides that they're gonna call
her parents and tell her parents. So they FaceTime her parents,
wake up her parents and Rasha and.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
I'm still shipping her parents. Why did they get divorced?
They get along great. We were waiting for a huge
Russian just screaming I wanted to fucking check off too,
and we get it, and they loved it. They were
cooking for each other and joking around. I was like, oh,
you guys are adorbsorbs.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Even though Julia already had it made up in her
head that they were just going to move all the
way to America for her again, she plays the series.
She creates the scenarios to ease anxiety in her mind,
but then doesn't tell anybody. She doesn't tell Brandon a lot.
Do I think betting Ron can be horrible? Yes? But
do I think Julia makes it worse and over dramaticize
it than it is. Yes? And I wonder, because they're

(01:14:44):
still doing tiktoks together. I wonder how much of this
is fraudacity?

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Yeah. Mary Payne thinks a lot of it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Is because you just don't FaceTime your parents in Russia
and they're available.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Yeah, And I'll why does Sean know that it was
eleven thirty? Se like, well, producer told tell her and
then cut that out, because in my ear, I was like,
very impressed that Sean, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Nerdy producing it's eleven Thirnie and rush on right now.
So they call the parents. Of course, her mom doesn't
believe her. She's like, show me, show me, and she
and the dad said it looks like you, Joseida heavy Meal.
But she finally convinces them and they get off the phone,

(01:15:27):
and it was I got to say, even I was
excited watching it. He was like, whether it was fraudacity
or not, it was good TV. Everyone's into it and
then they're like, well, it's time to tell Ron and Betty.
And then they show up and Betty's got that glass
of chardonnay y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
On its own. It's I don't know what it is,
but it's she. I'm surprised she doesn't have an ivy drip.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
I know, you know, I loved it when they called
drunk on a cruise. That was the best.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
When they were just they were all sunburned, they were yes,
read I.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Bet Betty and Ron are a fun bunch.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
They're swingers.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
I bet they're so much fun. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
If they're not my parents, I'm fine with it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
But with it. Yeah, So Julia says, you know, they
could start to talk to Julius says, you know, we
do have a disconnection, and I actually do want to
have a relation with you, ship with you. I want boundaries,
but I want to connect to you. Because they haven't talked.
But what made me think it was fake is that
when Betty said, well, heaven forbid, you have grandkids, and
then Ron is like, oh, yeah, we're supposed to say

(01:16:35):
we don't know about grants. So he literally says the line,
you know, but you don't have kids now, right, and
I went, y'all, come on that you are gilding this lily.
We get it, and so Julius as well. We are lying.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Blackout, I screamed, because this is the only thing I
want to see. Is I want to see. I want
to judge with my theater school eyes are they acting
or not? And I want to know if it's fake
or not. But that's when they.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Cut it off.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
I want to know if they are tears are there,
because none of them they're not Betty.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
I think Betty can cry on command.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
She is manipulative, and so that might be in her
arsenal where she can cry on cue. So I don't know.
I feel like I can judge because I always try
to judge on dateline if a person murdered their spouse,
if those are real tears or not? And so I'm
sorry of an expert.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Could you tell that the mother did it? And that
thing everybody talked about like a couple of months ago
that documented where the mother was catfish? Oh yeah, you
could tell early on it was a mom.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
It's kind of unfair because I knew the story because
I'd read that it wouldn't happen. Ah, ok, so that
I guess is not a clear judge of my talents.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Do you think you could have told? Well, it's hard
to tell.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
It's hard to there was something really weird about that.
I think she's she's just a strange looking person. Yeah,
she gets some misshoes. Anyway, next week, it looks like
it's mostly going.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
To be ed down next week. I forget, I'll do that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Sorry, Oh no, it's it's just everyone thinks that Georgie
is stepping out on Darcy in the Miami club scene.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
We're gonna have Laura show up.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Oh yeah. And then he's funny, I tell, because he
puts his therapy pants on and he tries to analyze
the other.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Even though you think he grew so much a last resort,
he's done a damn fucking nothing since nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
He has not changed. His teeth are just getting bigger
and bigger, though, And it seems like everyone tells Matt
that he needs to not wait around for Jasmine to
marry him, even though she's still married to Gino, so
still has children. Panama, she doesn't see so give it
a little bit of time, maybe, but maybe who knows.

(01:19:06):
It's enjoyable. I'm really, really enjoying this tell all much
more than I usually do.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
This was one of the best haytell alls we've ever had.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
I think, Yeah, yeah, I agree, and I love talking
to you. Mary Pain. Stay in Vegas. No, I'm just kidding.
Come back from Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
May Payne, tak me to Vegas. Tak me to Vegas,
Mary Pain. It is that. Don't remember when Natalie, when
Josh Josh take me to Vegas? Won't you take me
to Vegas? Cam Ca?

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
I need cam just while I have you. That just
made me think, did you see the thriller video by
the Bad Boys of ninety days? Do you keep up
with them?

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
I don't know if I saw a thriller. I did
see one, and I was like, that's actually fun The
thing about Rob he's a douche, but he's funny. He Yeah,
I did not see thriller, honestly. Sorry, I don't mean
to bring it down. I can't listen to Michael Jackson
anymore after that. Doctor.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Oh No, I agree, So no, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
I came with Michael Jackson. I'm out. I can't separate
the artists from that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
So I totally agree, and that's I love kim Balie,
but she has real questionable tastes. She still has that
Michael Jackson tattoo. But anyway, it was cringe. They're all terrible,
terrible dancers. I'm not judging the choreography, but it was
I don't know. It had Luke of Luke and Madeleine

(01:20:40):
and it had Annie from the Throutle in it, but
she's totally unrecognizable, and it has kim Balie living out
her best MJA dreams walking down the street.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Annie of the Thrule, Oh Annie, that was the one
we liked.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
She's she's way better than A many A Mony.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Many Mony. I'm not judging Kimbally. We both have the
same birthday because pieces we love it. You know. I
right now it's Carol Burnette this picture for people on
the video, But before that it was Bill Cosby, so
I know what it's like to have a fall from
grace of your heroes. But after that, because that was
my favorite show. That's why I got into standup comedy.

(01:21:24):
Like it was the Cosby show. I wanted God to
be my mother, like I still agnore her. So yeah
that so after that, now when they're like, oh this
person did it, I'm like and put them on the
burn pile. I've already I've already.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Mourned, Yes, you've mourned.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
So when we came in, I was like, bye anyway, anyway, Yeah,
it's it's job.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
But Josh is in that group and he thinks he's
very funny. Look Jamal, I think is funny even though
so hot to know, hot to me, so hot, also
the hottest one to me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
Oh by far as the hottest one. I probably like
Josh too, but he's so Rob is actually not well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
His personality has turned me off of him.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
And I used to don't you dumb bitch like Poodle.
You would fold in front of him like you did
before fall Amy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
That is Amy Archer. I wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
It was not I thought you were there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
It was I was not there. She shame here.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Strong. I was like, well you blocked us, and He's like,
will you must doing something wrong. I was like, so,
I'm not into Rob, but I'm not judging because I
don't know why. But I'm attracted to Luke and I
need to process that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Lord foh Luke. I call him lukestein.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
I don't like when he slick files, but when it's
softer and it kind of falls. I'm like, oh, I
kind of want to suck is dick?

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Okay? That is bizarre. I am des sure, making me
feel like a freak. Kimberly, I just what did they say?
I yucked all over your ym you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Could have because it's bad decision making. Let's wrap us
up before I talk about any of my shitty habits
and men.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
Uh good, thank you, Matt. Everybody follow reality Gaze and
follow them on YouTube too, because they're trying to get
them to ten thousand and then something amazing will happen.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Oh yeah, we'll read dirty sext and I will have
to watch a scary movie so our pain just for
your subscriptions.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
I love it, and uh we will see you. Oh
and follow Pink Shade on Instagram. Get she she loves it.
She follows it daily, she loves.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Book and counts. Yes, I'm a believer to y'all. Hello Lash,
Pink Shade twenty Yes, look at.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
The sucker right gorgeous? I mean that bapto se lashes,
said Luke, and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
He was, Oh, hi, Luke, it works. My eyebrows are
full of the whole thing, so it works. And I
love their Vitamin C actually too.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Oh good too, yeah, yeah, it's a great product and
uh we'll see you back with Mary Payne next week.
Thank you, everybody, Thank you for having me. Love you, Bride.

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