August 26, 2025 • 41 mins
Balaton Park served up a weekend of thrills, spills, and questions.
Marc Marquez extended his dominance, Jorge Martin made an impressive comeback, and the safety of the circuit is under the spotlight.
Join Matt Clayton and Renita Vermeulen as they break down the highs, the lows, and everything in between in Balaton
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Balaton Park served up a full smallgus board this weekend
with sweet moments, sour shocks, and a few results that.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Is going to take a while to digest.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
But the big question simmering after the Hungarian Grand Prix
should this track stay on the Motor GP calendar or
is it simply too dangerous to be served up again.
Pittalk is brought to you by Shannon's Insurance. I'm your
hostess with the mosts or Ronita Vmulin and joining me
at the table to chew it all over is my
co host Mac Clayton. Matt, I know you've got a
(00:34):
few strong flavors of your own regarding the Balaton Park circuit.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Right, yeah, look really good to join. You've made hungry
through the intro, which is pretty standard, so I need
to bring snacks to the podcast record or something that's
on me. But don't get me wrong, I love new
tracks on calendar. New tracks are cool. It's great to
go to different places, see different layouts, and you know,
it's nice to look at a track and not be
immediately familiar with what corner they're in and where they're
(01:01):
going and what the configuration is. That's all fine. New
tracks yes, this particular new track. I just there were
a couple of things in the layout that I reckon
that Motor GP might have got away with in terms
of major accidents or injuries. I don't know about you, but,
and I'm sure we'll get to this, but when an
Aa Bashyneni's sliding through the middle of a chicane with
(01:21):
the entire pack behind him on the first lap, I
actually physically stood back from the screen, just bracing myself
for the impacts. I thought he was incredibly lucky to
get away with that, and lucky seemed to be a
bit of a word of the weekend. You think of
Pedro Acosta's bike going over the fence and hitting a
camera operator and everyone was fine after that. It's just
the type of layout that lends itself to pretty sketchy
(01:42):
incidents if things go wrong. It's a car racing track,
let's be honest. The ramifications of things going wrong in
a car are far less on that particular circuit with
the layout. So I feel that motor GP got away
with one the track itself. It's nice to go to
new places. It wasn't the most inspiring layout of all time.
It was fine in a Vacuum. You know, I like
the fact we've got different styles and different requirements of tracks,
(02:04):
but it didn't strike me as being a classic in
the way that when we went to India for that
one year in twenty twenty three, obviously I knew that
track pretty well from the Formula one Days. It's a
shame from a racing point of view that track didn't
work out, because it's actuallyretty interesting. It's an interesting track there.
We know that some logistics things and a few unpaid
invoices put paid to that particular event. So it looks
like we're going to keep going back to Hungary, but
(02:27):
not sure. That's one of those ones that everyone's going
to be looking forward to massively, and I'm kind of
glad we got away with it.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, it seems like a lot of the info that
was coming from the balt On Park Circle this weekend
was a mixed bag. Some writers are going, this is
a go kart track, this is so dangerous, and others
are saying, you know what, I actually enjoyed it. It
seems like it was just one person would say something,
someone else would say something else. But I think, like,
let's talk about Anne is crash during the race, because
(02:56):
same thing for me. I know you said you step back.
I was sitting on the sofa and the gasp. Normally
I watched these races and go, oh, well that was
close or what. But to see that, to also think
about the fact of Luca Marini having that split nanosecond
to Missanaia as well.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You can see him try and go around.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
It could have been two writers here that could have
it could have ended so badly. So yeah, and Nyas
sliding through everyone and you could just see his head turning, going.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
What the actual is happening?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
But Luca Marini also just getting caught up in it
and having to figure.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That out as well.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I mean, you've got the immediate guys behind Bastian and
you having to pick whether they're going to go inside
or outside of a moving target as it's sliding across
the track. And then of course every reaction that someone
like Marini makes service behind him has to make an
opposite reaction, and so on and so forth. So it's
testament to the incredible skill of these guys to be
able to identify the way through and not clean him up.
A massive amount of luck involved. Let's not be honest,
(03:56):
but the thing you just mentioned then about as soon
as he fell back, his first movement was to turn
to his left to see what was coming. And as
much as he had the helmet on and the visor down,
you can imagine the panic in his eyes. He's made
the mistake, that's one thing, But you're in pure survival
mode at that point and you are almost bracing yourself
via the impact. I don't think I've been that shocked
(04:17):
about someone sliding on the track or being prone across
the track. You remember the accident that Banya had at
Casalouniar a couple of years ago, where he was he
high sighted right in front of the pack and they
all scattered and then broke bid to hit him as
he was coming through at the back. We're pretty lucky
that day, but yeah, the absolute fear and bast in
his eyes you can only imagine. So I just don't
think tight chicanes on bike tracks. It just shouldn't happen.
(04:38):
It doesn't work. There's too many of them in the
lap to try and break the lap up. And you know,
look there's different configurations of that track. Maybe we take
one of the chicaines out. I don't know, but it's
an imperfect solution to an imperfect circuit. But yeah, we
got away with it and we had I've got to
say I feared it was going to be a bit
of a you know, sort of Indian vile race, no
one really doing much. It was actually a lot more
(05:00):
interesting on Sunday than I was expecting it to be
to a point. And the other point was that the
Motor three and Motor two races were both fantastic at
that track, particularly Moto two was just absolutely awesome. So
there must be something about that particular track and maybe
bikes without all the arrow and all of the various
bits on that motor g he has that makes them
better for racing. But yeah, I'm kind of glad we're
(05:20):
not going to a similar circuit next time.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
No, I think you hit the nail on the head.
And that's something I was gonna talk about, was the
fact that Motor three, Motor two, the racing was a
phenomenal dam at Alonzo that last lap, Wow, I was
on the edge of my seat. But I think because
the rider is saying it's like a go cut track, yeah,
I feel like it is designed for the smaller bikes
without their arrow without all this extra stuff on there
(05:44):
that the riders are actually having to push themselves or
find the overtaking points, because it kind of seems like
this weekend there's really only a couple overtaking points and
that was it, and it wasn't even down the street.
It seems like that that's start finish street because so
shut there wasn't even enough time to get slipstream or anything.
And then the bigger bikes, right, So yeah, I do
(06:06):
agree for the lower classes.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It was fantastic racing, but then you get to Moto
GP and I hate saying it, but it's it's the
Marcus Show and we knew that was going to happen.
But the thing is that surprised me this weekend. We
had the two VR forty six's on the podium on
Saturday Sprint, but then Sunday's race, once again it was
Marco Bedzeki, who seems to be the only other writer
(06:30):
who's really pushing Mark for a majority of the race.
We know Aldegaez got that late race pace, we know
Joge Martin, which we'll get onto, but Marco Bedzeki Mark
and make the room. Marco was straight back that he
was giving it everything this weekend.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, and you know what's so interesting in this conversation,
this is something that's on the to do list between
now and Cattalourn. You know, I need to bury myself
and do a bit of a deep dive on this.
Do you remember at the beginning of the season where
we used to talk about the Jacaddi Cup and it
was which dacadis finishing first, second, and third the sixth
best Ducatti is probably finishing sixth or seventh in the
Grand Prix. As this season has developed, we're noticing at
(07:07):
the moment Aprilia has been really good from probably Silveston onwards.
And yes, Mark has won all these races in a
row now, but as at a Prillier, that's providing the
biggest challenge. You think of Asen, you think of last week,
and you think of Austria, so Bdzeki's been really good
there and we'll get to Juge Martin. Don't worry, we
must talk about him in this podcast. But Kasey m
has been really good now for the last three Grand Prix.
Costa was on the podium at Bruno first run of
(07:28):
the year, equal his career best result. We'd second on Sunday,
So isn't it interesting? You know, Honda are doing really well,
you know, more recently, So yes, Mark is still making
the difference on a Ducati, but it's not a Ducati
benefit now, and we're seeing the struggles that the other
five guys are having. Aldegero will be fantastic one weekend,
Anonymous the next weekend. The Banyaya story. There's a stat
(07:51):
that I'm going to throw at you later that I
knew it to be true, but I looked at it
and went, oh my god, this is how bad this
really is. It's so interesting now that we've got a
lot of their manufacturers unfortunately not Yamaha, but fighting for
meaningful prizes.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
And the thing I read.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
After Sunday we had four manufacturers in the first five
finishes on Sunday, first time that's happened for over two years.
So it does show you that, yes, Jucady is going
to win the Riders World Championship, They're going to win
the constructors. We know that they've got the best rider
on probably the best bike, but this is not turn
up on a Ducati and just win these days like
it was in the past. I think the fact, you've
(08:26):
got a thicker brew here with katm coming on it
preally has been really good for pretty much half of
the season. Now after the first five or six rounds
and seeing Hondas up fighting inside the top six legitimately
not through any sort of fluc or anything, it really
does show you that the race from second onwards is
super interesting. It's just that the race of first place
(08:47):
is being won pretty much by the time everyone rolls
out for FP one.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
At the moment.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
So I know you're the stats men, but I have
a stat for you. Mat Marini's best Grand Prix result
with Honda becoming the first factory Honda writer to take
a double top five in the sprint era.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
That is a three years. That is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Well a, it's amazing to say that about Honda, where
we used to just take that for granted when you
know certain writers were there in the past. But Marini's
been low key one of the better stories of this
sort of second half of the first half of the season,
if that makes sense, because he was seriously injured after
that accident that he had at Zuzukari.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
He missed a few rounds.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
It looked like it was going to be a long
time until he was back being himself again. His recovery
has been absolutely fantastic. We know him and Joan Mirror
on that new chassis me was really good in Austria.
Like they're just they're just looking really, really legit at
the moment you add them into the mix where you
know all the KTM riders are starting to come along
a little bit bitter cost us the best of all
of them. And then you just mentioned before, but Zeki
(09:47):
has led a number of laps in both Grand Prix
and they followed a familiar pattern in that he's been
the one that's He's sort of been the rabbit if
you like, a Mark's beIN the Hair's been the greyhound
chasing him. And you know Mark with race pace and
tie management, tends to seal the day, but particularly a
parlier and KTM to a lesser extent, Honda, they're making
the fight at the front super interesting. But what was
(10:10):
telling for me is I love watching I pride myself
as a bit of an unofficial body language expert here
and I'm going to put a pluck on the wall,
just give myself a doctorate or something. I love the
fact after all these races in the press conferences and
what have you.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Someone who asked Mark how hard.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
He's been pushed over the course of the weekend. It
was a difficult, And there's some weekends where it is difficult,
like I think Acid for example. I don't think he
was the fastest rider there. He just didn't make a
mistake for two days and gave nobody a chance to
pass him. He was asked if the weekend was pretty easy,
and you're thinking brand new track. He learns them well,
anti clockwise tracks. He's almost unbeatable at them. And he
was asked if it was a difficult weekend, and he
(10:45):
sort of thought about it. You could see the gears
turning and he's like, oh, maybe I could dress this
up and say it was a bit difficult. And he's like, nah,
it's pretty comfortable. He didn't try and bluff anyone to
say comfort table as Mark would say, and he's one
of my favorite Mark Marquez English words. But he knew
that he had this race pretty much where he wanted it.
(11:05):
Got his nose bloodied a bit on the first lap,
had that running with Bitzeki, dropped behind Morbid Deli, but
there was just an inevitability to it, and then towards
the end you could see him occasionally just churn out
a lap in the thirty sevens that no one else
was doing, just to keep himself interested. I think, just
to oh, I wonder if I can shave some time
on this corner. So I don't think this one was
particularly difficult. Probably no surprise that he learned a new
circuit faster than everybody else. There'll be other tracks of
(11:27):
the rest of the season that clearly are more difficult.
What I'd be super curious to know is I wonder
what you could get, what odds you could get for
Mark winning every race for.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
The rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Be very curious to see what you could get if
you put some money down on that, because that's eight
more rounds, sixty more races across eight rounds. He could
finish two thousan twenty five on a thirty race winning streak.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Hows that could you imagine?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And the only one he didn't win is Coder, which
is he's the King of Coder.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Wow. But for a season.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Before I let you go with Mark, I've got to
tell you this now, because this is cued up literally
on my second screen here. So Mark has four hundred
and fifty five points. He has a two hundred and
twenty seven point lead over Peko banya who's third in
the championship. Peko Banyay for the season has two hundred
and twenty eight points. So Mark has almost doubled Banyai's
points scoring in fourteen rounds. And of all the things
(12:21):
that we thought were going to happen in twenty twenty five,
we thought it'd be like a gloves Orf fight between
those two for the World Championship. He's almost doubled his
score and we're not even two well, we're two thirds
of the way through the season.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Basically, it's absolutely astonishing.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Let's talk about Peko.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Let's move on to that, because you're the body language
expert here.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I'm not a.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Body language expert, but during Sunday's morning warm up, I
can tell that he was pissed.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Off massively, so interestingly, the body language expert, like, you've
just officially given me that title. Now I might need
to get a T shirt or something. But you know
what's really interesting with Peco is that he as bad
as things get, he's usually his composure is the thing
that he keeps and you think of some of these
other riders when one tenth of the things go wrong,
(13:08):
but they've gone wrong for him this year. They'd be
breaking everything and throwing the toys out of the cotton.
You know, they have one bad race weekend and it's
the end of the world, and they're looking to try
and move Pedro Costo, so on and so forth. And
Pecko has kept his counsel for the most part of
the season, but even he has his limits. Pecko's someone
who wants to understand why things are going wrong and
then try and fix them. And because he still can't understand,
(13:30):
and things are just going more wrong and more wrong
and more wrong. Saturday was as dire of a day
at the racetrack as a two time world championship could
be imagined. Really, was it worst dry weather qualifying in
three years. Absolutely Nowhere in the sprint. It was just
so desperately bad. It's bad enough in isolation, but then
(13:50):
when you look at the fact that the guy on
the sister bike on the other side of the garage
hasn't lost anything since May the twenty fifth, back at Silverstone,
it just twists knife that little bit further I think
what was interesting in the race on Sunday. I wonder
if he had sort of caught sight of the way
that he was behaving on Saturday and the fact that
he looked so down about everything. He was almost over
(14:10):
correcting a bit on Sunday, and I thought his race
was decent on Sunday, and he said he felt better
and he'd found something. But it's almost like he was
going a little bit out of his way to try
and sell us on the fact that he was happier.
And I mean, we know this seasons are right off,
but I think we said this on the last episode.
This isn't about this season.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Now.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
It's like, can you get to the end of the
season and start the next one without being totally demoralized.
He's now working on twenty twenty six, six months early.
That's basically what it comes down to. But yeah, the
body language for someone who's normally so he's just so
cool about things. Usually it's not that these unemotional. He's
not robot, but he's usually very cool and composed, and
(14:49):
you know there's a rationale behind the way he reacts,
and that just wasn't there on Saturday and early Sunday.
He looks genuinely he's gone from being perplexed to being
rattled because it's like, I'm doing everything thing I can
to try and find a solution here and I still
can't find one. It's going to be, I mean, the
next eight rounds. If he beats Marquez once, it'll be miracle,
Let's be honest. But how can he not fall further
(15:11):
into this sort of pit of despair for the next
eight rounds Because as bad as this year has been,
we get to the start of next year, it's still
zero zero once we turn up for the first race
of the season. You can't let pass perforwarce dictate future potential.
And that's the spiral he risks going down right now
unless he can correct this.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Talking about the body language, I'm thinking back to Q
one on Saturday night, and I.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Okay, I've never ridden a Moto GP bike.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I understand a little bit body language and coming from
my brother, but I was watching Peco and to me,
you just mentioned it that he was overriding this bike
so much.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's like the rear just was not sticking down on
the track at all.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And he keeps saying about the front, but then it
wasn't making sense to me. I'm going he looks lost,
and I can see this just in a q ON session.
I know he's trying to fight for those top two
places to move on and actually get a decent grid position.
But you could just see he was fighting that bike
so hard this weekend.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, there's like a bit of professional panics that are
setting in right, like he's literally throwing anything at the
war right now, just to hope that anything sticks, where
his modus operandi usually is to all right, I don't
understand this. I'm going to dig deeper and deeper and
deeper into the data, and I'll work harder, and I'll
find the thing we thought it had happened to Aragon.
You remember when he fitted those the giant break discs
on at Aragon, and that was sort of thought to
(16:38):
be like the you know, the magic bullet that was
going to get him back to where he was. He
ran breaks that you would never normally run at Aragon.
But all of a sudden, it's like, Oh, I've got
the front feeling that I haven't had all year. I
feel really fast, this is all great, and so you're thinking, Okay,
maybe that's the corner being turned, and he was very
optimistic about that. Of course, I get to the next
round at Magello. It yeah, it was Magello and where
(16:58):
he's normally so good and he was nowhere so you
go kick off the podium in.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
That Grand Prix.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
So it feels like he's just clutching at straws. Now,
what's interesting is that we're talking about this last week
with the Massano test coming up, and you know, would
it be beneficial for him to get on a GP
twenty four and try and find the feeling and at
least be able to express that back for the twenty five.
It sounds like that's not going to happen. It doesn't
sound like he's going to ride the twenty four because
it's not like he can race it, and rather than
(17:24):
I think it's interesting in that, Yeah, you could go
back and ride the twenty four and go, oh, this
is like putting on a comfortable pair of shoes or whatever,
like I love this, this is fantastic. But then if
you can't use it, it's just going to make you
more depressed about what you don't have, I guess. So
you've got to try and work out what it is
that you've got.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
What'll be more.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Interesting is what they do next year with the nominally
the GP twenty six. Does it become is the twenty
six just an iteration and a development of the twenty
five bike, or does it take aspects of the twenty
four before they have to emuligate the thing and race
it for the season. He's not going to get some
sort of magic solution in the next eight rounds, but
maybe getting on a GP twenty four at Massano might
(17:59):
just confuse a bit more and almost make him lament
a bit more like, Oh, I had this, I love
this bike. I just can't ride this one. It's mostly
between easy ears at this point, and there's just got
to be a solution for riding this twenty five to
some sort of standard, because well, there's one guy that
seems to be doing a fairly good job of it.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I was thinking over the weekend about like the rules
and rags for next year, and I go, would it
be possible for Mark to jump on the twenty six
model bike if that's what they're going to call it,
and for Peco to then jump back on a twenty
four even though they're both on the factory team. Is
there rules and rags.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
About that, do you know?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yeah, My understanding is they've got a home Allogate one chassis,
so they can't be mixing and matching between So yes,
you can have you know, remember last year the Grassini
team were running twenty threes and so I think within
the same team you can. But I think within a factory,
I think you've got a home Alligate one. So do
they come up with because clearly, you know, as much
as Pico has struggled to ride this twenty five, it's
the bike is going to win a World championship by
(18:57):
an absolute mile. And this goes back to the what
we've said about Marquez in the past, in that he
wins the championship when he has the best bike. He
also wins the championship when he doesn't have the best bike,
and we saw this in Honda. There were many years
towards the tail end of Honda where the bike probably
wasn't the best and certain time of years the Yamaha
is clearly better. He's the difference maker. So I think
(19:19):
I think if you give Banyai the absolute sharpest instrument,
let's say both of them are on the twenty fours
this year, I still think Mark wins the championship, but
I think Pecko runs it a hell of a lot closer.
If the twenty five is not quite the iterative step
that because the twenty four was renowned as being this
incredible bike to ride. We've seen Alex Marquees has had
his best ever season on that bike. We've seen Altager
(19:40):
get podiums as a rookie on that bike. It's clearly
the bike.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
To be on.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
You wonder what Mark could do on that bike if
it was really that much superior. It doesn't even bear
thinking about at this point. But I just think Vanyai,
this is massive adversity for a guy who hasn't had
a hell of a lot of adversity for the last
four years. I mean, last year's abby hip loss was
pretty much self inflicted. He was just too wasteful last year,
too many DNFs. It was explainable. I think the hard
(20:07):
part about twenty five for him is that it's not explainable,
and that's the hardest part for him to get his
head around.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I think to county his blessings and to look at
a positive for him this weekend was the fact that
Alex and Jack got caught up in all that drama
on Friday, which gave Peko Banyaya a couple grid plays
places further up for Sundays Ron Prix. So he was
a little bit further ahead in the middle of the field.
But let's talk about Jack, because clearly just another difficult weekend.
(20:36):
But it seems like it's kind of building up from
the Thursday. Now there's all the talk of him for
next year, in him giving the ultimatum and everything like that,
and then all of a sudden, Friday's caught up in
that drama and I'm going, Jack, this isn't going to
help you case here, like stop flaming other people. And
then obviously a double crash on Sunday's Grand Prix.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah, I think I think you can draw a line
between Thursday and Friday to say that they're related. I'm
not one hundred percent sure that they were. He sort
of got caught up on Friday with Fabio de Jen
Antonio was a bit slow in front of Alex Marquez.
Alex Markes was getting frustrating, rolled out, didn't realize that
Jack was behind him.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Jack was annoyed with Alex. He rolled out.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Peco was behind the both of them, So it was
one of those sort of domino effect things on the Friday,
I think, with Thursday and Jack's little outburst in his
press debrief. What was interesting about that was that it
was right at the end of a fairly long debrief
where he was talking about the bike and that Austria
was a bit rubbish and what's the news going to
be like and so on and so forth, and he
(21:36):
was just answered, he answered in an almost offhand way,
it's like any news about next year, Jack, you know,
just someone just threw that in there. And it struck
me and I guess we'll have to fill in with truth,
serah and ask him this one day. It struck me
that what he had to say on Friday was quite
premeditated in that I don't think it was an off
the cuff just responding to a question. I think he
(21:57):
wanted to get his frustrations out there with the face
that this thing was taking so long with Yamaha one
way or the other, in an attempt to prod them
for a response. And I think maybe the catalyst for
that is we'd heard that Yogo Morrera had received offers
from Yamaha and Honda and I think Jack was not
so much accepting of that, but he understood. And it
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looked like ahead of last weekend that Marrera was leading
towards going with Honda. It's a longer deal, it's factory
writer status. It makes complete sense if you're morera you'd
go to Honda right now than Yamaha, because Honda's really
making progress and Yamaha's sort of spinning its wheels a bit.
And then the man who Gonzales stuff sort of started
in the background like, well, he come up to Murder
GP with Yamaha, and Jack's at a point was like, well,
would you like to put anyone else's name in the
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frame here instead of mine?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
For this thing?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I've outperformed Miguel Olavera, my teammate, considerably over the course
of the season. He has a contract with a break clause.
I have a contract that runs to the end of
the season. Are you just going to keep looking at
other people and keeping me hanging here? Because the other
domino here was there were no other seats in Murder GP.
If he was going to go to World Super Likes,
those teams could only wait for so long. And I
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think what you've seen over the past few days, Jack
had his little outburst that I think was quite premeditated.
He was a lot more calm over the course of
the rest of the weekend. There was some vision of
him and his manager Achieo coming out of a meeting
with Yamahat management on Thursday. Jack was a lot more
He just sort of played the line the rest of
the course of the weekend. And then on the Monday,
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after the Sunday Grand Prix in Hungary, the Decadi World
Superbikes team where Jack was being linked to for obvious reasons,
they announced that Alvarro Batista is being replaced by Ikea Lekuona,
so that seat's gone. And Olivera was speaking on Sunday
after his best result of the year actually in Hungary,
saying that he's not ready to be a test writing yet,
so he's kind of acknowledged that he's out. So he
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starts stacking all these stories together and there's an obvious
conclusion here. And I think, you know, it's Tuesday evening
as we talk about this Australian time. I would imagine
that before the next Grand Prix, Jack gets the news
that he's been looking for. But I thought what he
did on Thursday. Was you know, you told me this
was going to be sorted by before the mid season
break at Bruno. It's a month later. I've gone and
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done Suzuka for you. I'm hearing all.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
These other names.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
What is actually going on here to try and prod
them into a response, and I'm sure this is on
your run sheheet. We haven't talked about this, but the
fact that Yamaha is now going to race this V
four as soon as Massano, I actually think that's a
pretty significant factor in Jack staying for next season because
I couldn't imagine them trying to get a V four
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project off the ground when your rider lineup is Fabio
Quadroro awesome, Alex Rinn's broken, absolutely no results, Top brack
Rasctalioglu rookie, Diogo Marera rookie or whoever a man who
Gonzales rookie. That's not a line up to me that's
going to be great in developing a brand new project
for Yamaha while they're also juggling twenty twenty seven and
(24:54):
the rule changes coming in there. So this is a
job description that requires an experience head who's got a
lot of VIA V four experience, and the experience head
with the V four experience is Jack Miller.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
It was kind of scary also for a while.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And I don't know we had it last year to
think that we wouldn't have an Aussie on the Moto
GP grid. And you know, we're trying to bring MotoGP
here to a bigger audience, We're trying to get more
people involved. To think that Jack, who's such Alarican and everything,
it has this brand that everyone knows of him to
him not be on the grid. But then I also
think of him as the athlete, going how stressful this
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must be as well, because you've had a difficult weekend
in Austria. Difficult weekend again, You're dealing with all the pressure,
the rumors, everything, no wonder He shared his thoughts on Thursday,
like it.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Makes yeah, yeah, it makes sense. And there's two other
factors here. I think we had Simon Patterson on the
other week talking about the Liberty media era of MotoGP.
He is the biggest English speaking personality we have on
this grid by right now, by an absolute mile. I'm
not sure Liberty would be super keen on Jack being
off the greed that was going to be what happened.
The other factor to remember here and I checked this
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before we got on the Australian Grand Prix, and he
has a contract at Philip Island until the end of
next year's event, so end of twenty six, there's two
more years on the current deal and the thought of
having to go and recent renegotiate that contract potentially without
Australian writer on the grid in a Liberty Media era
Motor GP that's going forward. That's a really interesting fork
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in the road. And we know that Jack is You know,
Jack feels a very specific development need for Yamaha right now.
He's not the right rider for every vacancy on the grid.
I think he's the right rider for this vacancy, but
I also don't think it's going to be a vacancy
that necessarily lasts all that long. We might be having
the same conversation this time next year.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
But for the time being, he feels like the right
man for the job description that's being advertised, and there'll
come a point in twelve months or twenty four months
or whatever it is where he might not fit what
they need anymore and Yamaha might need something different. So
to my mind, it's Jack's last motor GP stop while
he manages to fulfill the need that they have from him.
And the truest sign of whether he's actually done his
(27:05):
job well will be if Yamaha improves to the point
where they're more competitive with Honda and then starting to
edge up towards the other manufacturers. Then that's almost like, thanks, Jack,
you've done what we needed you to do. Let's shake
hands and you know, right off into this into the
sunset in different directions, because that's probably going to be
best for Yamaha, and probably best for him at that point,
because he'll be thirty one, thirty two years old. He's
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had a very good run, and I think that feels
like a more natural conclusion than it concluding this year.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
No, completely completely agree. I think I brought up on
last week's pot. I think about the fact that the
V four and I said I didn't want it to
be ran out MATEGI where they normally have their test
writer is.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
So, and it's the power you've got is you just
find Yamaha and say bring it forward.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Bring it forward.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
That's exactly what I did. I just gave them a
quick cool note when I thought. I saw the announcement
made I thought, good on you guys. And the fact
that they're bringing it to sat Marino.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
They know there's a test.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
After wold they're bringing it early or Gusto Fernandez, Ok,
he's a few filling rise this year. I think it's
what we need. We just need this question answered.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
We need to know the FEF going to be like, yeah, yeah,
we need to know. And if I'm being a little
bit uncharitable, which is pretty much the way I roll,
let's be honest, maybe if you bring it to Masado
and it doesn't go super well, it's better than debuting
it at Motigi in front of all of the Abaha's
banishment and it doesn't go super well. That would be
slightly embarrassing. So at least they've given themselves an extra
(28:28):
round ahead of time. And like you said, then, I
think the key thing the fact that test is the
day after the Grand Prix, where presumably all the regular
writers will have a crack on it as well, because
Squaaterero is, you know, probably chomping at the bid to
have a go at this thing at this point. So
it makes a lot of sense. But I'm just impressed
with the fact that you can just get Palo Vivessio
on the phone say look, come on, what are we
doing here? This is the power of the pit Talk podcast.
(28:50):
You just put a requested and things happen.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Well, I mean, you know, that's just how it goes
here in Australia.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Just just just a real subtle flex by you, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I'm kidding listeners, this is not what happens. But you know, yamaha,
if you do listen to the Pit Top pod, then
you know for sure, me and Matt we'd love to
come and be a guest in the garage of Phil.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Sure, just just give it, just give us the appropriate
credit when you when things go well, that's fun.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Talking about things going well, Besendigitia, want to touch on
this both riders from Q one onto the front row?
Can you believe that?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Amazing?
Speaker 3 (29:23):
And how was the degen Antonio Q one story in
that he set the precise lap time that Brad Binder
set in Q one to the thousandths of a second
and managed to get the second berth from Q one
into Q two because his second best lap of the
session was faster. He then goes and sticks it on
the front row and he then gets a sprint podium,
(29:44):
finishing second behind Mark marqueerrez All because his second best
lap in Q one got him through to Q two
and that he capitalized on it from there. Kind of
amazing how these things work out. And Brad Binder, we
saw him at the back end of the top ten,
but no better than that. One of the disappointing things
I reckon about Sunday was the fact we never really
got to see what did you could do on Sunday
because he had that electronics issue and had to go
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to the spare bike and his race was pretty much shot.
I would have been super interested to see he was
clearly the second Besty Caddy all weekend, and I would
have been curious to see where he fit in with
that Acosta Bezeki sort of crew up the front. VR
forty sixty. Caddy afterwards said that on race pace they
thought he would have finished fourth. So it's a lot
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better than finishing fifteenth, which is where he finished. But yeah,
how was that to the thousandths of a second in
qualifying and that ends up on the front row because
of it?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
That was an incredible.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Fifteen minutes honestly, qualifying this weekend was really fascinating, just
the fact, you know, Peco struggling. We don't want that,
but to see him and so many big names in
q on and then obviously Bes and Digi and I
kind of expected it from Bezel going. I almost thought
for him and it is he going to get pol?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Could he do this? Can he do the best weekend?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
He did the same in Austria.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
But again another thing that I'm sure it's on your
run shit, And I'm to talk about this. Marco Betzeki's
teammate was pretty damned good in Hungary on the weekend,
wasn't he?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
That's what I was just about to talk about. Mate
took the words out of my mouth.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Joege Martin p sixteen to pee four. Can you believe
that the emotion that you saw from him when he
came back in the whole team, just that the tears,
the emotion, Wow, you could just feel it through the screen.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
If you want to go and watch ninety seconds of
awesome on boards, go and watch Jorge Martin's first lap.
I don't know whether you've done it yet. He went
from sixteenth to seventh on lap one and watching him
pick his way through those opening four or five corners.
I think he'd overtaken seven people before the time we
got to turn five on lap one. It was absolutely spectacular.
He took the outside line into turn one and then
(31:51):
was just in this. Oh there's a gap, someone's gone
wide here, someone's been pushed there. I'm going here. It
was spectacularly done. And the thing for me he finished
three point two seconds behind his teammate who started fourteen
places ahead of him on the grid, and that I
don't think Juge Martin's back back Capitol back yet. But
(32:13):
this is his fourth Grand Prix of the year. Remember
and remember the first one he ended up with eleven
fractured ribs and a collapse lung in hospital. So he's
basically done three Grand Prix in a row. He has
come a really long way, really really quickly. He still
can't work out the whole one lap thing.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
That.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Do you realize that he was seventeenth on the grid.
That's his worst ever Motor GP qualify. I went back
and looked at that and went, goodness to me, like
eighty odd races since twenty twenty one, so lowest he's
ever qualified. He was awesome on Sunday, and you think
how far he's come, how fast. It was only a
month ago he was back in a race situation for
the first time. We know the Aprili is good, We've
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seen that for the past five or six rounds and
Bazeki's been great. This is like twenty twenty three bez
all over again.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
But hand on hard.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I don't think anyone's watching thinking that he's the same
class of rider as Hall, fully Fit, Firing, or hey Martin.
And you think at the moment, the one thing Martine's
famous for is just these absolutely volcanic pole position laps.
We were like, my god, what is that lap where
he You look at the sector times and he's six
tenths up on his best lap in Q two. He
hasn't even found that yet. He's coming along really, really quickly,
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and there's eight rounds to go. I've written a piece
on Tuesday for Fox sports dot com dot are you
wondering who's going to be the person that stops the
Marquez winning run? Like when will Mark actually.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Lose a race?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
For the back end of this season, there's some good
Martine tracks coming up. There's a couple of good apriller
tracks coming up. It would not surprise me if Mark
rattles off another couple of perfect weekends. The one guy
that might beat him before the end of the season.
We know his championship defense is in the bin. On
his day at even seventy five percent fit or hey,
Martin could beat Mark Marquez this year. I could see
(33:52):
it happening at certain circuits because you're looking at the
rest of the pack and you're saying, well, who else
is going to short of Mark actually making a mistake
like he has a couple of rounds this year. He's
not fully back yet, Juge Martin. But man, there was
some stuff on the weekend where you're just watching him,
was thinking, you forget just how combative and how feisty
this guy is and how fast he is, and you know,
(34:14):
at a track where you can't overtake here apparently, and
he's gained twelve positions from where he started. I think
he sort of threw that theory in the bin. But oh,
he was good to watch, and you do wonder what's
coming up, like Barcelona good at Prillier track, right, So
that's going to be one to watch And I just
hope that he's more accustomed to what he's writing, and
(34:36):
he's back towards full fitness. Because Martin and Philip Island
is one of my favorite things to watch, particularly in qualifying.
He is awesome around there over one lab. We know
how good Mark is a Philip Island too, So sign
me up if we get another head to head with
those two, because that was fun last year, be even
more fun this year given what's happened to both of them.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Since I think quote of the year on this pod
is you saying Martin's going to win a race this year,
Let's do it. I think we're just going to ca
it out now. So when that happens, will you heard
it here first? Yamaha, heard it here first? And you're
predicting juge Martine's twenty twenty five made in Grand Prix victory.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
And the best part about that is if it doesn't happen,
I will never mention it again, and so it'll just
be it'll just disappear into the podcast e through and
no whatever has to discuss this. So either way, I
think I'm winning this one.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I mean, all the listeners, you'll all forget about it.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
I'll distract you with something else.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
So it was a pretty interesting weekend for Moto GP
and if we were to move on to Moto two,
unfortunately our was he center age is when we recorded
the pod, it wasn't announced that it wasn't complete competing
and then I press record, Sorry, I pressed upload.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Pod was up there.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Next minute I see the notification he was replaced by
Sogio Guscia. So fingers crossed and is making a good
recovery and he will be back for Barcelona in a
couple weeks time. But let's move on to Moto three.
Great qualify result for Jacob, I think the boost that
he needed. But once again, overall tough weekend for the Aussies.
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Jack Jack Jack Joel says on his socials that he
just just did not feel comfortable by the looks of it.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
It was it was one of those weekends where because
nobody had any familiarity with this place. Normally you can
go back and say, oh, I've raced in the CV here,
or I've done Moto three here. If you're a Moto
two it was the blankest sheet of paper possible, so
it was interesting to see who was able to get
to grips with it faster.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Than not.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Jacob Rolston quick over one lap, like you said, faded
in the race again. His teammates looking pretty awesome at
the moment, Peroni, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
And then Joel.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
You know, I still don't think Joel's anywhere dear fit
after what happened in the Netherlands. He's still sort of
recovering a little bit from that, but just didn't quite
seem to gel for him this weekend. So yeah, definitely
a tough race weekend for the Aussies all up. You
know when you think no center and Jack had a
couple of crashes on Sunday, but Race of the night, well,
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last three laps of the night David Alozzo and this
kid is I love everything about the way he conducts himself.
He looks like he's having the best day of his
life every single day. Is super cool to watch. If
this guy doesn't have Motor GP superstar written all over
him in about three to four years, he's got absolutely everything.
He's got the sound bites. He's amazing at the end
(37:24):
of races for a guy who's got no experience on
a motor two bike whatsoever. He's one of those guys
in three to four years time we're doing the podcast,
of course we'll be talking about him as being a
Motor GP front running rider because he just ticks every box,
doesn't he have a young guy you see coming through
this is like a Coster, but maybe even a little
bit more polished.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I think it's hilarious the fact that he's a Marquez
protege along with Killers, and I think these are the
two riders who are like dominating or I mean, obviously
the ones has taken a little bit longer to get
back to the front as he's meeting. If you guys
don't watch Moto two, go back and watch even just
watch those last three laps. Like Mart was saying, we
were messaging on our work chat, going, oh.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
My god, look at David. Is he gonna do it? Oh,
he's gonna do it. He's gonna be a Moto GP.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Like this kid's the next alien and he's phenomenal. And
I just always think of hashtag baby goat.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
It's a great hashtag. I do love it. And he
looks like he just looks like a little kid. He's
the proper baby face assassin. I'm not sure if he's
still got the braces and the band's going unlock he
was doing in Moto three last year. But he looks
like the nicest young kid imaginable. And then once the
visor goes down and he twists the throttle, he's an
absolute animal. And the best part about the end of
that Moto II race was probably five laps to go.
(38:41):
You just thought, oh, yeah, he's gonna win this. Watch this,
and you know, Marera, we know he's super super feisty,
and Gonzales is leading the championship and he's not going
to get pushed around, and there was just an inevitability
to him winning the race. He's got it. Whatever that
thing is, that indefinable thing that separates the great from
the merely very good, he's got And yeah, Moto GP
(39:02):
Star of the future, looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I'm very much looking forward to that as well. Well.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
That pretty much wraps up our Ballaton Park review. Matt,
you excited for MotoGP to come back here next year?
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Uh, CBC.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Let's see if we can remove Let's see if we
can have movie like two Less Chicanes, and then Ye'll
get back to you.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, two Less Chicanes. Maybe Acosta not throwing his bike
at a cameraman and I'm hopefully not a Moto E
rider knocking himself out on the sidelines, which was crazy.
I messaged Kiko Giles, the commentator for that and said,
well done because that was a scary moment. Another big
gas for me on the side of the sofa. But
that's okay because Moto GP has one weekend off and
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then we are back at the Circuit de Barcelona, Catalonia,
that iconic circuit that kind of looks like a crab
if you look at it long way. But like I said,
prity have been strong here in the past. Mark Marquez's
home track because we know he's born not that far away,
but also it's I guess home track for the Spargaro brothers,
(40:06):
Paula Spargo. Can we just talk about him quickly before oh,
wrap this up, because I just remembered for a test rider, man,
he does good, doesn't He's constantly in that top ten.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I think he's I think he thought he might have
been done with racing and he's got back and been
so competitive. He was good at Bruno, really good this
weekend in Hungary as well. There's still a lot more
to give for him and we know that he's a
family man these days, juggling you know, does commentary for
his own kids and what have you. Maybe he needs,
like I don't know, a World Superbike sort of type
calendar rather than twenty two rounds about a GP, but
(40:40):
certainly hasn't got any slower, has he.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well that's the rumors coming out now that he's like
talking about he'd be interested in a World Superbike ride,
which I think would be exciting because it's Paul and
the fact that he's coming back and doing top ten finishes.
So sorry, I digress, guys, if if we're wrapping this
one up and we had to talk about Paul Spargo,
but yes, we are back Barcelona next weekend. Can Mark
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Mark doesn't wrap up that title in San Marino? We
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Talk
Balaton Park served up a full smallgus board this weekend
with sweet moments, sour shocks, and a few results that.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Is going to take a while to digest.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
But the big question simmering after the Hungarian Grand Prix
should this track stay on the Motor GP calendar or
is it simply too dangerous to be served up again.
Pittalk is brought to you by Shannon's Insurance. I'm your
hostess with the mosts or Ronita Vmulin and joining me
at the table to chew it all over is my
co host Mac Clayton. Matt, I know you've got a
(00:34):
few strong flavors of your own regarding the Balaton Park circuit.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Right, yeah, look really good to join. You've made hungry
through the intro, which is pretty standard, so I need
to bring snacks to the podcast record or something that's
on me. But don't get me wrong, I love new
tracks on calendar. New tracks are cool. It's great to
go to different places, see different layouts, and you know,
it's nice to look at a track and not be
immediately familiar with what corner they're in and where they're
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going and what the configuration is. That's all fine. New
tracks yes, this particular new track. I just there were
a couple of things in the layout that I reckon
that Motor GP might have got away with in terms
of major accidents or injuries. I don't know about you, but,
and I'm sure we'll get to this, but when an
Aa Bashyneni's sliding through the middle of a chicane with
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the entire pack behind him on the first lap, I
actually physically stood back from the screen, just bracing myself
for the impacts. I thought he was incredibly lucky to
get away with that, and lucky seemed to be a
bit of a word of the weekend. You think of
Pedro Acosta's bike going over the fence and hitting a
camera operator and everyone was fine after that. It's just
the type of layout that lends itself to pretty sketchy
(01:42):
incidents if things go wrong. It's a car racing track,
let's be honest. The ramifications of things going wrong in
a car are far less on that particular circuit with
the layout. So I feel that motor GP got away
with one the track itself. It's nice to go to
new places. It wasn't the most inspiring layout of all time.
It was fine in a Vacuum. You know, I like
the fact we've got different styles and different requirements of tracks,
(02:04):
but it didn't strike me as being a classic in
the way that when we went to India for that
one year in twenty twenty three, obviously I knew that
track pretty well from the Formula one Days. It's a
shame from a racing point of view that track didn't
work out, because it's actuallyretty interesting. It's an interesting track there.
We know that some logistics things and a few unpaid
invoices put paid to that particular event. So it looks
like we're going to keep going back to Hungary, but
(02:27):
not sure. That's one of those ones that everyone's going
to be looking forward to massively, and I'm kind of
glad we got away with it.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, it seems like a lot of the info that
was coming from the balt On Park Circle this weekend
was a mixed bag. Some writers are going, this is
a go kart track, this is so dangerous, and others
are saying, you know what, I actually enjoyed it. It
seems like it was just one person would say something,
someone else would say something else. But I think, like,
let's talk about Anne is crash during the race, because
(02:56):
same thing for me. I know you said you step back.
I was sitting on the sofa and the gasp. Normally
I watched these races and go, oh, well that was
close or what. But to see that, to also think
about the fact of Luca Marini having that split nanosecond
to Missanaia as well.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You can see him try and go around.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
It could have been two writers here that could have
it could have ended so badly. So yeah, and Nyas
sliding through everyone and you could just see his head turning, going.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
What the actual is happening?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
But Luca Marini also just getting caught up in it
and having to figure.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That out as well.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I mean, you've got the immediate guys behind Bastian and
you having to pick whether they're going to go inside
or outside of a moving target as it's sliding across
the track. And then of course every reaction that someone
like Marini makes service behind him has to make an
opposite reaction, and so on and so forth. So it's
testament to the incredible skill of these guys to be
able to identify the way through and not clean him up.
A massive amount of luck involved. Let's not be honest,
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but the thing you just mentioned then about as soon
as he fell back, his first movement was to turn
to his left to see what was coming. And as
much as he had the helmet on and the visor down,
you can imagine the panic in his eyes. He's made
the mistake, that's one thing, But you're in pure survival
mode at that point and you are almost bracing yourself
via the impact. I don't think I've been that shocked
(04:17):
about someone sliding on the track or being prone across
the track. You remember the accident that Banya had at
Casalouniar a couple of years ago, where he was he
high sighted right in front of the pack and they
all scattered and then broke bid to hit him as
he was coming through at the back. We're pretty lucky
that day, but yeah, the absolute fear and bast in
his eyes you can only imagine. So I just don't
think tight chicanes on bike tracks. It just shouldn't happen.
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It doesn't work. There's too many of them in the
lap to try and break the lap up. And you know,
look there's different configurations of that track. Maybe we take
one of the chicaines out. I don't know, but it's
an imperfect solution to an imperfect circuit. But yeah, we
got away with it and we had I've got to
say I feared it was going to be a bit
of a you know, sort of Indian vile race, no
one really doing much. It was actually a lot more
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interesting on Sunday than I was expecting it to be
to a point. And the other point was that the
Motor three and Motor two races were both fantastic at
that track, particularly Moto two was just absolutely awesome. So
there must be something about that particular track and maybe
bikes without all the arrow and all of the various
bits on that motor g he has that makes them
better for racing. But yeah, I'm kind of glad we're
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not going to a similar circuit next time.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
No, I think you hit the nail on the head.
And that's something I was gonna talk about, was the
fact that Motor three, Motor two, the racing was a
phenomenal dam at Alonzo that last lap, Wow, I was
on the edge of my seat. But I think because
the rider is saying it's like a go cut track, yeah,
I feel like it is designed for the smaller bikes
without their arrow without all this extra stuff on there
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that the riders are actually having to push themselves or
find the overtaking points, because it kind of seems like
this weekend there's really only a couple overtaking points and
that was it, and it wasn't even down the street.
It seems like that that's start finish street because so
shut there wasn't even enough time to get slipstream or anything.
And then the bigger bikes, right, So yeah, I do
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agree for the lower classes.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It was fantastic racing, but then you get to Moto
GP and I hate saying it, but it's it's the
Marcus Show and we knew that was going to happen.
But the thing is that surprised me this weekend. We
had the two VR forty six's on the podium on
Saturday Sprint, but then Sunday's race, once again it was
Marco Bedzeki, who seems to be the only other writer
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who's really pushing Mark for a majority of the race.
We know Aldegaez got that late race pace, we know
Joge Martin, which we'll get onto, but Marco Bedzeki Mark
and make the room. Marco was straight back that he
was giving it everything this weekend.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, and you know what's so interesting in this conversation,
this is something that's on the to do list between
now and Cattalourn. You know, I need to bury myself
and do a bit of a deep dive on this.
Do you remember at the beginning of the season where
we used to talk about the Jacaddi Cup and it
was which dacadis finishing first, second, and third the sixth
best Ducatti is probably finishing sixth or seventh in the
Grand Prix. As this season has developed, we're noticing at
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the moment Aprilia has been really good from probably Silveston onwards.
And yes, Mark has won all these races in a
row now, but as at a Prillier, that's providing the
biggest challenge. You think of Asen, you think of last week,
and you think of Austria, so Bdzeki's been really good
there and we'll get to Juge Martin. Don't worry, we
must talk about him in this podcast. But Kasey m
has been really good now for the last three Grand Prix.
Costa was on the podium at Bruno first run of
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the year, equal his career best result. We'd second on Sunday,
So isn't it interesting? You know, Honda are doing really well,
you know, more recently, So yes, Mark is still making
the difference on a Ducati, but it's not a Ducati
benefit now, and we're seeing the struggles that the other
five guys are having. Aldegero will be fantastic one weekend,
Anonymous the next weekend. The Banyaya story. There's a stat
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that I'm going to throw at you later that I
knew it to be true, but I looked at it
and went, oh my god, this is how bad this
really is. It's so interesting now that we've got a
lot of their manufacturers unfortunately not Yamaha, but fighting for
meaningful prizes.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
And the thing I read.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
After Sunday we had four manufacturers in the first five
finishes on Sunday, first time that's happened for over two years.
So it does show you that, yes, Jucady is going
to win the Riders World Championship, They're going to win
the constructors. We know that they've got the best rider
on probably the best bike, but this is not turn
up on a Ducati and just win these days like
it was in the past. I think the fact, you've
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got a thicker brew here with katm coming on it
preally has been really good for pretty much half of
the season. Now after the first five or six rounds
and seeing Hondas up fighting inside the top six legitimately
not through any sort of fluc or anything, it really
does show you that the race from second onwards is
super interesting. It's just that the race of first place
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is being won pretty much by the time everyone rolls
out for FP one.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
At the moment.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
So I know you're the stats men, but I have
a stat for you. Mat Marini's best Grand Prix result
with Honda becoming the first factory Honda writer to take
a double top five in the sprint era.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
That is a three years. That is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Well a, it's amazing to say that about Honda, where
we used to just take that for granted when you
know certain writers were there in the past. But Marini's
been low key one of the better stories of this
sort of second half of the first half of the season,
if that makes sense, because he was seriously injured after
that accident that he had at Zuzukari.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
He missed a few rounds.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
It looked like it was going to be a long
time until he was back being himself again. His recovery
has been absolutely fantastic. We know him and Joan Mirror
on that new chassis me was really good in Austria.
Like they're just they're just looking really, really legit at
the moment you add them into the mix where you
know all the KTM riders are starting to come along
a little bit bitter cost us the best of all
of them. And then you just mentioned before, but Zeki
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has led a number of laps in both Grand Prix
and they followed a familiar pattern in that he's been
the one that's He's sort of been the rabbit if
you like, a Mark's beIN the Hair's been the greyhound
chasing him. And you know Mark with race pace and
tie management, tends to seal the day, but particularly a
parlier and KTM to a lesser extent, Honda, they're making
the fight at the front super interesting. But what was
(10:10):
telling for me is I love watching I pride myself
as a bit of an unofficial body language expert here
and I'm going to put a pluck on the wall,
just give myself a doctorate or something. I love the
fact after all these races in the press conferences and
what have you.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Someone who asked Mark how hard.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
He's been pushed over the course of the weekend. It
was a difficult, And there's some weekends where it is difficult,
like I think Acid for example. I don't think he
was the fastest rider there. He just didn't make a
mistake for two days and gave nobody a chance to
pass him. He was asked if the weekend was pretty easy,
and you're thinking brand new track. He learns them well,
anti clockwise tracks. He's almost unbeatable at them. And he
was asked if it was a difficult weekend, and he
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sort of thought about it. You could see the gears
turning and he's like, oh, maybe I could dress this
up and say it was a bit difficult. And he's like, nah,
it's pretty comfortable. He didn't try and bluff anyone to
say comfort table as Mark would say, and he's one
of my favorite Mark Marquez English words. But he knew
that he had this race pretty much where he wanted it.
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Got his nose bloodied a bit on the first lap,
had that running with Bitzeki, dropped behind Morbid Deli, but
there was just an inevitability to it, and then towards
the end you could see him occasionally just churn out
a lap in the thirty sevens that no one else
was doing, just to keep himself interested. I think, just
to oh, I wonder if I can shave some time
on this corner. So I don't think this one was
particularly difficult. Probably no surprise that he learned a new
circuit faster than everybody else. There'll be other tracks of
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the rest of the season that clearly are more difficult.
What I'd be super curious to know is I wonder
what you could get, what odds you could get for
Mark winning every race for.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
The rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Be very curious to see what you could get if
you put some money down on that, because that's eight
more rounds, sixty more races across eight rounds. He could
finish two thousan twenty five on a thirty race winning streak.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Hows that could you imagine?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And the only one he didn't win is Coder, which
is he's the King of Coder.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Wow. But for a season.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Before I let you go with Mark, I've got to
tell you this now, because this is cued up literally
on my second screen here. So Mark has four hundred
and fifty five points. He has a two hundred and
twenty seven point lead over Peko banya who's third in
the championship. Peko Banyay for the season has two hundred
and twenty eight points. So Mark has almost doubled Banyai's
points scoring in fourteen rounds. And of all the things
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that we thought were going to happen in twenty twenty five,
we thought it'd be like a gloves Orf fight between
those two for the World Championship. He's almost doubled his
score and we're not even two well, we're two thirds
of the way through the season.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Basically, it's absolutely astonishing.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Let's talk about Peko.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Let's move on to that, because you're the body language
expert here.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I'm not a.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Body language expert, but during Sunday's morning warm up, I
can tell that he was pissed.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Off massively, so interestingly, the body language expert, like, you've
just officially given me that title. Now I might need
to get a T shirt or something. But you know
what's really interesting with Peco is that he as bad
as things get, he's usually his composure is the thing
that he keeps and you think of some of these
other riders when one tenth of the things go wrong,
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but they've gone wrong for him this year. They'd be
breaking everything and throwing the toys out of the cotton.
You know, they have one bad race weekend and it's
the end of the world, and they're looking to try
and move Pedro Costo, so on and so forth. And
Pecko has kept his counsel for the most part of
the season, but even he has his limits. Pecko's someone
who wants to understand why things are going wrong and
then try and fix them. And because he still can't understand,
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and things are just going more wrong and more wrong
and more wrong. Saturday was as dire of a day
at the racetrack as a two time world championship could
be imagined. Really, was it worst dry weather qualifying in
three years. Absolutely Nowhere in the sprint. It was just
so desperately bad. It's bad enough in isolation, but then
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when you look at the fact that the guy on
the sister bike on the other side of the garage
hasn't lost anything since May the twenty fifth, back at Silverstone,
it just twists knife that little bit further I think
what was interesting in the race on Sunday. I wonder
if he had sort of caught sight of the way
that he was behaving on Saturday and the fact that
he looked so down about everything. He was almost over
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correcting a bit on Sunday, and I thought his race
was decent on Sunday, and he said he felt better
and he'd found something. But it's almost like he was
going a little bit out of his way to try
and sell us on the fact that he was happier.
And I mean, we know this seasons are right off,
but I think we said this on the last episode.
This isn't about this season.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Now.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
It's like, can you get to the end of the
season and start the next one without being totally demoralized.
He's now working on twenty twenty six, six months early.
That's basically what it comes down to. But yeah, the
body language for someone who's normally so he's just so
cool about things. Usually it's not that these unemotional. He's
not robot, but he's usually very cool and composed, and
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you know there's a rationale behind the way he reacts,
and that just wasn't there on Saturday and early Sunday.
He looks genuinely he's gone from being perplexed to being
rattled because it's like, I'm doing everything thing I can
to try and find a solution here and I still
can't find one. It's going to be, I mean, the
next eight rounds. If he beats Marquez once, it'll be miracle,
Let's be honest. But how can he not fall further
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into this sort of pit of despair for the next
eight rounds Because as bad as this year has been,
we get to the start of next year, it's still
zero zero once we turn up for the first race
of the season. You can't let pass perforwarce dictate future potential.
And that's the spiral he risks going down right now
unless he can correct this.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Talking about the body language, I'm thinking back to Q
one on Saturday night, and I.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Okay, I've never ridden a Moto GP bike.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I understand a little bit body language and coming from
my brother, but I was watching Peco and to me,
you just mentioned it that he was overriding this bike
so much.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's like the rear just was not sticking down on
the track at all.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And he keeps saying about the front, but then it
wasn't making sense to me. I'm going he looks lost,
and I can see this just in a q ON session.
I know he's trying to fight for those top two
places to move on and actually get a decent grid position.
But you could just see he was fighting that bike
so hard this weekend.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, there's like a bit of professional panics that are
setting in right, like he's literally throwing anything at the
war right now, just to hope that anything sticks, where
his modus operandi usually is to all right, I don't
understand this. I'm going to dig deeper and deeper and
deeper into the data, and I'll work harder, and I'll
find the thing we thought it had happened to Aragon.
You remember when he fitted those the giant break discs
on at Aragon, and that was sort of thought to
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be like the you know, the magic bullet that was
going to get him back to where he was. He
ran breaks that you would never normally run at Aragon.
But all of a sudden, it's like, Oh, I've got
the front feeling that I haven't had all year. I
feel really fast, this is all great, and so you're thinking, Okay,
maybe that's the corner being turned, and he was very
optimistic about that. Of course, I get to the next
round at Magello. It yeah, it was Magello and where
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he's normally so good and he was nowhere so you
go kick off the podium in.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
That Grand Prix.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
So it feels like he's just clutching at straws. Now,
what's interesting is that we're talking about this last week
with the Massano test coming up, and you know, would
it be beneficial for him to get on a GP
twenty four and try and find the feeling and at
least be able to express that back for the twenty five.
It sounds like that's not going to happen. It doesn't
sound like he's going to ride the twenty four because
it's not like he can race it, and rather than
(17:24):
I think it's interesting in that, Yeah, you could go
back and ride the twenty four and go, oh, this
is like putting on a comfortable pair of shoes or whatever,
like I love this, this is fantastic. But then if
you can't use it, it's just going to make you
more depressed about what you don't have, I guess. So
you've got to try and work out what it is
that you've got.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
What'll be more.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Interesting is what they do next year with the nominally
the GP twenty six. Does it become is the twenty
six just an iteration and a development of the twenty
five bike, or does it take aspects of the twenty
four before they have to emuligate the thing and race
it for the season. He's not going to get some
sort of magic solution in the next eight rounds, but
maybe getting on a GP twenty four at Massano might
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just confuse a bit more and almost make him lament
a bit more like, Oh, I had this, I love
this bike. I just can't ride this one. It's mostly
between easy ears at this point, and there's just got
to be a solution for riding this twenty five to
some sort of standard, because well, there's one guy that
seems to be doing a fairly good job of it.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I was thinking over the weekend about like the rules
and rags for next year, and I go, would it
be possible for Mark to jump on the twenty six
model bike if that's what they're going to call it,
and for Peco to then jump back on a twenty
four even though they're both on the factory team. Is
there rules and rags.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
About that, do you know?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yeah, My understanding is they've got a home Allogate one chassis,
so they can't be mixing and matching between So yes,
you can have you know, remember last year the Grassini
team were running twenty threes and so I think within
the same team you can. But I think within a factory,
I think you've got a home Alligate one. So do
they come up with because clearly, you know, as much
as Pico has struggled to ride this twenty five, it's
the bike is going to win a World championship by
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an absolute mile. And this goes back to the what
we've said about Marquez in the past, in that he
wins the championship when he has the best bike. He
also wins the championship when he doesn't have the best bike,
and we saw this in Honda. There were many years
towards the tail end of Honda where the bike probably
wasn't the best and certain time of years the Yamaha
is clearly better. He's the difference maker. So I think
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I think if you give Banyai the absolute sharpest instrument,
let's say both of them are on the twenty fours
this year, I still think Mark wins the championship, but
I think Pecko runs it a hell of a lot closer.
If the twenty five is not quite the iterative step
that because the twenty four was renowned as being this
incredible bike to ride. We've seen Alex Marquees has had
his best ever season on that bike. We've seen Altager
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get podiums as a rookie on that bike. It's clearly
the bike.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
To be on.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
You wonder what Mark could do on that bike if
it was really that much superior. It doesn't even bear
thinking about at this point. But I just think Vanyai,
this is massive adversity for a guy who hasn't had
a hell of a lot of adversity for the last
four years. I mean, last year's abby hip loss was
pretty much self inflicted. He was just too wasteful last year,
too many DNFs. It was explainable. I think the hard
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part about twenty five for him is that it's not explainable,
and that's the hardest part for him to get his
head around.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I think to county his blessings and to look at
a positive for him this weekend was the fact that
Alex and Jack got caught up in all that drama
on Friday, which gave Peko Banyaya a couple grid plays
places further up for Sundays Ron Prix. So he was
a little bit further ahead in the middle of the field.
But let's talk about Jack, because clearly just another difficult weekend.
(20:36):
But it seems like it's kind of building up from
the Thursday. Now there's all the talk of him for
next year, in him giving the ultimatum and everything like that,
and then all of a sudden, Friday's caught up in
that drama and I'm going, Jack, this isn't going to
help you case here, like stop flaming other people. And
then obviously a double crash on Sunday's Grand Prix.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah, I think I think you can draw a line
between Thursday and Friday to say that they're related. I'm
not one hundred percent sure that they were. He sort
of got caught up on Friday with Fabio de Jen
Antonio was a bit slow in front of Alex Marquez.
Alex Markes was getting frustrating, rolled out, didn't realize that
Jack was behind him.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Jack was annoyed with Alex. He rolled out.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Peco was behind the both of them, So it was
one of those sort of domino effect things on the Friday,
I think, with Thursday and Jack's little outburst in his
press debrief. What was interesting about that was that it
was right at the end of a fairly long debrief
where he was talking about the bike and that Austria
was a bit rubbish and what's the news going to
be like and so on and so forth, and he
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was just answered, he answered in an almost offhand way,
it's like any news about next year, Jack, you know,
just someone just threw that in there. And it struck
me and I guess we'll have to fill in with truth,
serah and ask him this one day. It struck me
that what he had to say on Friday was quite
premeditated in that I don't think it was an off
the cuff just responding to a question. I think he
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wanted to get his frustrations out there with the face
that this thing was taking so long with Yamaha one
way or the other, in an attempt to prod them
for a response. And I think maybe the catalyst for
that is we'd heard that Yogo Morrera had received offers
from Yamaha and Honda and I think Jack was not
so much accepting of that, but he understood. And it
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looked like ahead of last weekend that Marrera was leading
towards going with Honda. It's a longer deal, it's factory
writer status. It makes complete sense if you're morera you'd
go to Honda right now than Yamaha, because Honda's really
making progress and Yamaha's sort of spinning its wheels a bit.
And then the man who Gonzales stuff sort of started
in the background like, well, he come up to Murder
GP with Yamaha, and Jack's at a point was like, well,
would you like to put anyone else's name in the
(22:39):
frame here instead of mine?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
For this thing?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I've outperformed Miguel Olavera, my teammate, considerably over the course
of the season. He has a contract with a break clause.
I have a contract that runs to the end of
the season. Are you just going to keep looking at
other people and keeping me hanging here? Because the other
domino here was there were no other seats in Murder GP.
If he was going to go to World Super Likes,
those teams could only wait for so long. And I
(23:03):
think what you've seen over the past few days, Jack
had his little outburst that I think was quite premeditated.
He was a lot more calm over the course of
the rest of the weekend. There was some vision of
him and his manager Achieo coming out of a meeting
with Yamahat management on Thursday. Jack was a lot more
He just sort of played the line the rest of
the course of the weekend. And then on the Monday,
(23:23):
after the Sunday Grand Prix in Hungary, the Decadi World
Superbikes team where Jack was being linked to for obvious reasons,
they announced that Alvarro Batista is being replaced by Ikea Lekuona,
so that seat's gone. And Olivera was speaking on Sunday
after his best result of the year actually in Hungary,
saying that he's not ready to be a test writing yet,
so he's kind of acknowledged that he's out. So he
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starts stacking all these stories together and there's an obvious
conclusion here. And I think, you know, it's Tuesday evening
as we talk about this Australian time. I would imagine
that before the next Grand Prix, Jack gets the news
that he's been looking for. But I thought what he
did on Thursday. Was you know, you told me this
was going to be sorted by before the mid season
break at Bruno. It's a month later. I've gone and
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done Suzuka for you. I'm hearing all.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
These other names.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
What is actually going on here to try and prod
them into a response, and I'm sure this is on
your run sheheet. We haven't talked about this, but the
fact that Yamaha is now going to race this V
four as soon as Massano, I actually think that's a
pretty significant factor in Jack staying for next season because
I couldn't imagine them trying to get a V four
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project off the ground when your rider lineup is Fabio
Quadroro awesome, Alex Rinn's broken, absolutely no results, Top brack
Rasctalioglu rookie, Diogo Marera rookie or whoever a man who
Gonzales rookie. That's not a line up to me that's
going to be great in developing a brand new project
for Yamaha while they're also juggling twenty twenty seven and
(24:54):
the rule changes coming in there. So this is a
job description that requires an experience head who's got a
lot of VIA V four experience, and the experience head
with the V four experience is Jack Miller.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
It was kind of scary also for a while.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And I don't know we had it last year to
think that we wouldn't have an Aussie on the Moto
GP grid. And you know, we're trying to bring MotoGP
here to a bigger audience, We're trying to get more
people involved. To think that Jack, who's such Alarican and everything,
it has this brand that everyone knows of him to
him not be on the grid. But then I also
think of him as the athlete, going how stressful this
(25:29):
must be as well, because you've had a difficult weekend
in Austria. Difficult weekend again, You're dealing with all the pressure,
the rumors, everything, no wonder He shared his thoughts on Thursday,
like it.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Makes yeah, yeah, it makes sense. And there's two other
factors here. I think we had Simon Patterson on the
other week talking about the Liberty media era of MotoGP.
He is the biggest English speaking personality we have on
this grid by right now, by an absolute mile. I'm
not sure Liberty would be super keen on Jack being
off the greed that was going to be what happened.
The other factor to remember here and I checked this
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before we got on the Australian Grand Prix, and he
has a contract at Philip Island until the end of
next year's event, so end of twenty six, there's two
more years on the current deal and the thought of
having to go and recent renegotiate that contract potentially without
Australian writer on the grid in a Liberty Media era
Motor GP that's going forward. That's a really interesting fork
(26:23):
in the road. And we know that Jack is You know,
Jack feels a very specific development need for Yamaha right now.
He's not the right rider for every vacancy on the grid.
I think he's the right rider for this vacancy, but
I also don't think it's going to be a vacancy
that necessarily lasts all that long. We might be having
the same conversation this time next year.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
But for the time being, he feels like the right
man for the job description that's being advertised, and there'll
come a point in twelve months or twenty four months
or whatever it is where he might not fit what
they need anymore and Yamaha might need something different. So
to my mind, it's Jack's last motor GP stop while
he manages to fulfill the need that they have from him.
And the truest sign of whether he's actually done his
(27:05):
job well will be if Yamaha improves to the point
where they're more competitive with Honda and then starting to
edge up towards the other manufacturers. Then that's almost like, thanks, Jack,
you've done what we needed you to do. Let's shake
hands and you know, right off into this into the
sunset in different directions, because that's probably going to be
best for Yamaha, and probably best for him at that point,
because he'll be thirty one, thirty two years old. He's
(27:26):
had a very good run, and I think that feels
like a more natural conclusion than it concluding this year.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
No, completely completely agree. I think I brought up on
last week's pot. I think about the fact that the
V four and I said I didn't want it to
be ran out MATEGI where they normally have their test
writer is.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
So, and it's the power you've got is you just
find Yamaha and say bring it forward.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Bring it forward.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
That's exactly what I did. I just gave them a
quick cool note when I thought. I saw the announcement
made I thought, good on you guys. And the fact
that they're bringing it to sat Marino.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
They know there's a test.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
After wold they're bringing it early or Gusto Fernandez, Ok,
he's a few filling rise this year. I think it's
what we need. We just need this question answered.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
We need to know the FEF going to be like, yeah, yeah,
we need to know. And if I'm being a little
bit uncharitable, which is pretty much the way I roll,
let's be honest, maybe if you bring it to Masado
and it doesn't go super well, it's better than debuting
it at Motigi in front of all of the Abaha's
banishment and it doesn't go super well. That would be
slightly embarrassing. So at least they've given themselves an extra
(28:28):
round ahead of time. And like you said, then, I
think the key thing the fact that test is the
day after the Grand Prix, where presumably all the regular
writers will have a crack on it as well, because
Squaaterero is, you know, probably chomping at the bid to
have a go at this thing at this point. So
it makes a lot of sense. But I'm just impressed
with the fact that you can just get Palo Vivessio
on the phone say look, come on, what are we
doing here? This is the power of the pit Talk podcast.
(28:50):
You just put a requested and things happen.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Well, I mean, you know, that's just how it goes
here in Australia.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Just just just a real subtle flex by you, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I'm kidding listeners, this is not what happens. But you know, yamaha,
if you do listen to the Pit Top pod, then
you know for sure, me and Matt we'd love to
come and be a guest in the garage of Phil.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Sure, just just give it, just give us the appropriate
credit when you when things go well, that's fun.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Talking about things going well, Besendigitia, want to touch on
this both riders from Q one onto the front row?
Can you believe that?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Amazing?
Speaker 3 (29:23):
And how was the degen Antonio Q one story in
that he set the precise lap time that Brad Binder
set in Q one to the thousandths of a second
and managed to get the second berth from Q one
into Q two because his second best lap of the
session was faster. He then goes and sticks it on
the front row and he then gets a sprint podium,
(29:44):
finishing second behind Mark marqueerrez All because his second best
lap in Q one got him through to Q two
and that he capitalized on it from there. Kind of
amazing how these things work out. And Brad Binder, we
saw him at the back end of the top ten,
but no better than that. One of the disappointing things
I reckon about Sunday was the fact we never really
got to see what did you could do on Sunday
because he had that electronics issue and had to go
(30:05):
to the spare bike and his race was pretty much shot.
I would have been super interested to see he was
clearly the second Besty Caddy all weekend, and I would
have been curious to see where he fit in with
that Acosta Bezeki sort of crew up the front. VR
forty sixty. Caddy afterwards said that on race pace they
thought he would have finished fourth. So it's a lot
(30:25):
better than finishing fifteenth, which is where he finished. But yeah,
how was that to the thousandths of a second in
qualifying and that ends up on the front row because
of it?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
That was an incredible.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Fifteen minutes honestly, qualifying this weekend was really fascinating, just
the fact, you know, Peco struggling. We don't want that,
but to see him and so many big names in
q on and then obviously Bes and Digi and I
kind of expected it from Bezel going. I almost thought
for him and it is he going to get pol?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Could he do this? Can he do the best weekend?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
He did the same in Austria.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
But again another thing that I'm sure it's on your
run shit, And I'm to talk about this. Marco Betzeki's
teammate was pretty damned good in Hungary on the weekend,
wasn't he?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
That's what I was just about to talk about. Mate
took the words out of my mouth.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Joege Martin p sixteen to pee four. Can you believe
that the emotion that you saw from him when he
came back in the whole team, just that the tears,
the emotion, Wow, you could just feel it through the screen.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
If you want to go and watch ninety seconds of
awesome on boards, go and watch Jorge Martin's first lap.
I don't know whether you've done it yet. He went
from sixteenth to seventh on lap one and watching him
pick his way through those opening four or five corners.
I think he'd overtaken seven people before the time we
got to turn five on lap one. It was absolutely spectacular.
He took the outside line into turn one and then
(31:51):
was just in this. Oh there's a gap, someone's gone
wide here, someone's been pushed there. I'm going here. It
was spectacularly done. And the thing for me he finished
three point two seconds behind his teammate who started fourteen
places ahead of him on the grid, and that I
don't think Juge Martin's back back Capitol back yet. But
(32:13):
this is his fourth Grand Prix of the year. Remember
and remember the first one he ended up with eleven
fractured ribs and a collapse lung in hospital. So he's
basically done three Grand Prix in a row. He has
come a really long way, really really quickly. He still
can't work out the whole one lap thing.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
That.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Do you realize that he was seventeenth on the grid.
That's his worst ever Motor GP qualify. I went back
and looked at that and went, goodness to me, like
eighty odd races since twenty twenty one, so lowest he's
ever qualified. He was awesome on Sunday, and you think
how far he's come, how fast. It was only a
month ago he was back in a race situation for
the first time. We know the Aprili is good, We've
(32:49):
seen that for the past five or six rounds and
Bazeki's been great. This is like twenty twenty three bez
all over again.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
But hand on hard.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I don't think anyone's watching thinking that he's the same
class of rider as Hall, fully Fit, Firing, or hey Martin.
And you think at the moment, the one thing Martine's
famous for is just these absolutely volcanic pole position laps.
We were like, my god, what is that lap where
he You look at the sector times and he's six
tenths up on his best lap in Q two. He
hasn't even found that yet. He's coming along really, really quickly,
(33:20):
and there's eight rounds to go. I've written a piece
on Tuesday for Fox sports dot com dot are you
wondering who's going to be the person that stops the
Marquez winning run? Like when will Mark actually.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Lose a race?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
For the back end of this season, there's some good
Martine tracks coming up. There's a couple of good apriller
tracks coming up. It would not surprise me if Mark
rattles off another couple of perfect weekends. The one guy
that might beat him before the end of the season.
We know his championship defense is in the bin. On
his day at even seventy five percent fit or hey,
Martin could beat Mark Marquez this year. I could see
(33:52):
it happening at certain circuits because you're looking at the
rest of the pack and you're saying, well, who else
is going to short of Mark actually making a mistake
like he has a couple of rounds this year. He's
not fully back yet, Juge Martin. But man, there was
some stuff on the weekend where you're just watching him,
was thinking, you forget just how combative and how feisty
this guy is and how fast he is, and you know,
(34:14):
at a track where you can't overtake here apparently, and
he's gained twelve positions from where he started. I think
he sort of threw that theory in the bin. But oh,
he was good to watch, and you do wonder what's
coming up, like Barcelona good at Prillier track, right, So
that's going to be one to watch And I just
hope that he's more accustomed to what he's writing, and
(34:36):
he's back towards full fitness. Because Martin and Philip Island
is one of my favorite things to watch, particularly in qualifying.
He is awesome around there over one lab. We know
how good Mark is a Philip Island too, So sign
me up if we get another head to head with
those two, because that was fun last year, be even
more fun this year given what's happened to both of them.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Since I think quote of the year on this pod
is you saying Martin's going to win a race this year,
Let's do it. I think we're just going to ca
it out now. So when that happens, will you heard
it here first? Yamaha, heard it here first? And you're
predicting juge Martine's twenty twenty five made in Grand Prix victory.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
And the best part about that is if it doesn't happen,
I will never mention it again, and so it'll just
be it'll just disappear into the podcast e through and
no whatever has to discuss this. So either way, I
think I'm winning this one.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I mean, all the listeners, you'll all forget about it.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
I'll distract you with something else.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
So it was a pretty interesting weekend for Moto GP
and if we were to move on to Moto two,
unfortunately our was he center age is when we recorded
the pod, it wasn't announced that it wasn't complete competing
and then I press record, Sorry, I pressed upload.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Pod was up there.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Next minute I see the notification he was replaced by
Sogio Guscia. So fingers crossed and is making a good
recovery and he will be back for Barcelona in a
couple weeks time. But let's move on to Moto three.
Great qualify result for Jacob, I think the boost that
he needed. But once again, overall tough weekend for the Aussies.
(36:08):
Jack Jack Jack Joel says on his socials that he
just just did not feel comfortable by the looks of it.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
It was it was one of those weekends where because
nobody had any familiarity with this place. Normally you can
go back and say, oh, I've raced in the CV here,
or I've done Moto three here. If you're a Moto
two it was the blankest sheet of paper possible, so
it was interesting to see who was able to get
to grips with it faster.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Than not.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Jacob Rolston quick over one lap, like you said, faded
in the race again. His teammates looking pretty awesome at
the moment, Peroni, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
And then Joel.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
You know, I still don't think Joel's anywhere dear fit
after what happened in the Netherlands. He's still sort of
recovering a little bit from that, but just didn't quite
seem to gel for him this weekend. So yeah, definitely
a tough race weekend for the Aussies all up. You
know when you think no center and Jack had a
couple of crashes on Sunday, but Race of the night, well,
(37:01):
last three laps of the night David Alozzo and this
kid is I love everything about the way he conducts himself.
He looks like he's having the best day of his
life every single day. Is super cool to watch. If
this guy doesn't have Motor GP superstar written all over
him in about three to four years, he's got absolutely everything.
He's got the sound bites. He's amazing at the end
(37:24):
of races for a guy who's got no experience on
a motor two bike whatsoever. He's one of those guys
in three to four years time we're doing the podcast,
of course we'll be talking about him as being a
Motor GP front running rider because he just ticks every box,
doesn't he have a young guy you see coming through
this is like a Coster, but maybe even a little
bit more polished.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I think it's hilarious the fact that he's a Marquez
protege along with Killers, and I think these are the
two riders who are like dominating or I mean, obviously
the ones has taken a little bit longer to get
back to the front as he's meeting. If you guys
don't watch Moto two, go back and watch even just
watch those last three laps. Like Mart was saying, we
were messaging on our work chat, going, oh.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
My god, look at David. Is he gonna do it? Oh,
he's gonna do it. He's gonna be a Moto GP.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Like this kid's the next alien and he's phenomenal. And
I just always think of hashtag baby goat.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
It's a great hashtag. I do love it. And he
looks like he just looks like a little kid. He's
the proper baby face assassin. I'm not sure if he's
still got the braces and the band's going unlock he
was doing in Moto three last year. But he looks
like the nicest young kid imaginable. And then once the
visor goes down and he twists the throttle, he's an
absolute animal. And the best part about the end of
that Moto II race was probably five laps to go.
(38:41):
You just thought, oh, yeah, he's gonna win this. Watch this,
and you know, Marera, we know he's super super feisty,
and Gonzales is leading the championship and he's not going
to get pushed around, and there was just an inevitability
to him winning the race. He's got it. Whatever that
thing is, that indefinable thing that separates the great from
the merely very good, he's got And yeah, Moto GP
(39:02):
Star of the future, looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I'm very much looking forward to that as well. Well.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
That pretty much wraps up our Ballaton Park review. Matt,
you excited for MotoGP to come back here next year?
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Uh, CBC.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Let's see if we can remove Let's see if we
can have movie like two Less Chicanes, and then Ye'll
get back to you.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, two Less Chicanes. Maybe Acosta not throwing his bike
at a cameraman and I'm hopefully not a Moto E
rider knocking himself out on the sidelines, which was crazy.
I messaged Kiko Giles, the commentator for that and said,
well done because that was a scary moment. Another big
gas for me on the side of the sofa. But
that's okay because Moto GP has one weekend off and
(39:45):
then we are back at the Circuit de Barcelona, Catalonia,
that iconic circuit that kind of looks like a crab
if you look at it long way. But like I said,
prity have been strong here in the past. Mark Marquez's
home track because we know he's born not that far away,
but also it's I guess home track for the Spargaro brothers,
(40:06):
Paula Spargo. Can we just talk about him quickly before oh,
wrap this up, because I just remembered for a test rider, man,
he does good, doesn't He's constantly in that top ten.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I think he's I think he thought he might have
been done with racing and he's got back and been
so competitive. He was good at Bruno, really good this
weekend in Hungary as well. There's still a lot more
to give for him and we know that he's a
family man these days, juggling you know, does commentary for
his own kids and what have you. Maybe he needs,
like I don't know, a World Superbike sort of type
calendar rather than twenty two rounds about a GP, but
(40:40):
certainly hasn't got any slower, has he.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well that's the rumors coming out now that he's like
talking about he'd be interested in a World Superbike ride,
which I think would be exciting because it's Paul and
the fact that he's coming back and doing top ten finishes.
So sorry, I digress, guys, if if we're wrapping this
one up and we had to talk about Paul Spargo,
but yes, we are back Barcelona next weekend. Can Mark
(41:03):
Marquez breakaway? Can Alex Marquez have a stronger weekend so
Mark doesn't wrap up that title in San Marino? We
are going to find out once again though. This podcast
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