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March 29, 2025 6 mins

An impromptu conversation Chrissy Stroop and I had following our previous chat about Transphobia in the New Atheist scene. I decided to record it and turn it into a Bonus mini ep.


We talk about what Pro Natalism really means and how it’s spreading among the self-professed Rational types online.

Radicalized Ex-Muslim Sarah Haider comes up, as well as the topic of how the ‘pro natalist’ scene often openly discusses hitting children as a valid disciplining tactic. 


I have a deeper dive into this topic, if you’re interested in it check out my post about it here - a part of my ExMuslim to TradFash Pipieline series: 


‘Hipster Eugenicists, Birthrates …. & Beating Children’

https://www.patreon.com/posts/106529773


Check out my recent convo with Chrissy about Transphobia in the New Atheist scene here: 

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0UIAKby4Nih0Bm5sO4q72H?si=YEVVGcPUTy-IvRUQjsDXjA


Find the extended version of the episode here: 

https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-94-in-new-124954055?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link


‘Hipster eugenics’: why is the media cosying up to people who want to build a super race?

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/apr/20/pro-natalism-babies-global-population-genetics


If you enjoy the show pls consider supporting via patreon.com/nicemangos 

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