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February 4, 2025 48 mins

In this insightful episode, Victoria Stilwell welcomes back Andrew Hale to discuss the deep connections between human and canine social experiences. As a certified animal behaviorist and advocate for dog-centric care, Andrew delves into the importance of secure attachments, social safety, and emotional regulation in both species. The conversation challenges traditional views on training, highlighting how reactivity and behavior issues often stem from social processing struggles rather than mere disobedience. They also explore how punishment-based methods can create long-term emotional damage, making a strong case for humane, positive approaches.

Drawing parallels between societal issues and dog behavior, they discuss how stress, insecurity, and fear-based reactions manifest similarly in people and pets. Andrew shares thought-provoking research on social pain, the effects of loneliness on physiological health, and how social exclusion can shape both human and canine behavior. Victoria and Andrew emphasize the need for compassionate training methods that prioritize emotional well-being, reinforcing the idea that true behavior change starts with understanding, safety, and connection. Tune in for a compelling conversation that may change the way you think about dogs—and people.

To learn more about Andrew Hale, visit https://trainpositive.co.uk/

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