October 2, 2025 • 12 mins
Jared and Mike read from what may end up being the most batshit insane column of 2025–The Daily Caller’s “Enough is enough… I choose VIOLENCE” by “writer, drinker” Geoffrey Ingersoll. The guys pair Ingersoll’s words with the reporting on real life violence from ICE. They also break down Trump’s new fascination with so-called med beds, check in on the growing conspiracy theory that Erika Kirk killed her husband, and struggle to understand a QAnon influencer’s belief that Jon Benet Ramsey never died and became Erika Kirk.
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(00:00):
It's becoming clear what he's upset about Dow, which is that
he saw some viral videos of conservatives getting punched
and is upset that the people whopunched them are not facing
harsher legal consequences. So he goes on about that a
little bit more, and let's see. OK, now.
(00:25):
Now we're getting to his solution for this.
I'm excited. How do we fix this?
In corrupt legal scenarios wherethe judges, prosecutors and even
police are all part of a rigged system, what can we do?
Choose violence. We all know the government is
(00:46):
not going to help you in your time of need, especially as
Soros sponsored government. I'm sorry, who's the president
right now? Unbelievable.
A sorrow sponsored government. What are you fucking talking?
It's Peter Peter Thiel and Elon Musk run the fucking country.
They're literally they're they're literally all over your
(01:08):
party and your party's in complete power.
I mean, it's it it anyway. There's no point in even, you
know, debating this person. Conservatives looking to
peacefully assemble and publiclydebate need to be realistic.
Nobody is going to help you. In fact, they're going to
encourage violence. They're going to excuse, justify
(01:31):
and encourage it. What are you doing, writer.
Drinker. Writer.
Drinker. What are you doing bro?
Self-awareness check. Yeah, The Daily Caller here.
We saw as much with Charlie Kirk.
They were practically begging someone to go after him.
And when someone did, they quickly justified it.
(01:51):
I'm sorry, who justified it? Yeah, they, they people online,
random ass people online. He.
Just saw he just saw a few tweets when he's fucking wasted.
He's like he's, you know, he's just like reeking of doers and
he's just like, oh fuck, you know, some some some expose with
like 1 like from a troll. Well, I think now that we know
the extent of it, the time to goas lambs to the slaughter is all
(02:15):
caps. Over, yes.
In real terms this means bring security with you.
That's dying to dole out drubbins.
I'm sure a fair amount of ex cons who found Jesus loved
Charlie Kirk. Maybe they need work?
What the fuck? Well, wait, hold on now.
(02:37):
Writer. Drinker.
Writer. Father Drinker.
Writer, drinker, hire of of of assassins and and like of the
criminal underworld. You should screen your security
guards for people who seem really violent.
So like what he's saying is the time is he's saying the time is
come in our politics for us to hire some ex-con who love
(02:58):
Charlie Kirk to gun down liberals.
Is that the I think that's what he's actually saying.
Is that a demographic of people?Of like, I know she don't know I
mean. Statistically, there's got to be
like 1, right? In his, in his mind, in his, in
his very constipated mind, it is.
Whatever works, we need to reinstitute the cost.
(03:22):
So some activist takes the sign next to your table at a public
debate like what happened here. She gets instantly closed lined
I. Don't care, this is his
fantasies. Remember though, Mike, the
editorial note at the top, this author, Jeffrey Ingersoll, only
supports self-defense. We.
(03:44):
Talk to the drunk. Self-defense situations, which
which everybody knows, that classic self-defense situation
where somebody takes a sign off your table and you have to
physically assault them, he says.
I don't care if police are present, do it anyway.
In fact, be wildly disproportionate.
(04:07):
A fat black lady assaults your on camera talent dog.
There it is. There you go.
Oopsies. Oopsies, Jeffrey, you told on
yourself. Here, book the kind of security
that has no qualms hospitalizingher and people like her.
Oh my God. Fuck man, it's also a woman.
You know, I think that's also telling.
(04:28):
OK, black woman, right? Fat woman.
Fat was. He's got a couple issues.
That's important for some reason, yeah.
He but then he won't, but but then also hospitalized.
You know, it's like, you know, when we're popping off in the
group chat and everybody's making jokes and saying things
like that and somebody says something a little loose, you
(04:50):
know, and you always feel bad. You're like, no, I'm not a FBII
don't mean that or whatever, just as a joke or whatever.
I never we never go this far. We'd even like, you know, we'd
never be like, you know, it's you never go like, oh, put
someone in the fucking hospital.Jesus age Christ.
Dudes, rope up your car and start vandalizing it.
Rope up, rope up like. No, he's that.
(05:12):
This. Is slang?
I don't know. The Doers is just writing itself
now. Bros dismounting with cudgels
will fix that real quick. Turn it into an instant brawl.
Break bones. OK.
Force corrupt police to intervene.
I want blood in the streets. The force hold on.
(05:34):
I need this like break this one sentence down.
I don't want to get too slow everything down, but force
corrupt police to intervene. Now hold, hold, hold on a
second. Well, first of all, it's pro
it's pro corrupt police, right? I, I mean, I, I thought the
whole fucking thing with these people is that the idea is that
like there are good cops and youknow, the idea that people are
(05:56):
falsely, he's saying the cops themselves are corrupt and then
force them. I, I don't understand, like you
force them when you bribe them. It just does he mean, but he's
force them. Why would you have to force them
if they're corrupt? I'll pick up here.
Then then he writes. Speaking of costs, such a
posture is indeed costly. It'll cost money.
(06:18):
Firstly, security isn't cheap. It'll likely cost about $1000 a
day for just two guys. It'll also come at a social cost
and a legal cost. Bragg might not not prosecute
militant liberals, but he'll certainly take a conservative
organization to court if his St.Brutes are harmed.
But you know what else isn't cheap?
(06:39):
The social compact. In America.
It comes. At alarms.
Yeah, all of a sudden he's, you know.
Now he's sentimental. This country.
This country is a fucking. Shit hole.
And but, but the social compact.Yeah, OK.
If patriots aren't willing to step up and bear the burden, our
(07:00):
people will continue to be harassed, assaulted, even killed
with impunity. What's clear to me in these two
examples is that liberals believe they have a monopoly on
both legal and extra legal acts of violence.
They don't. We need to show them they don't.
We must stop clutching our principles and shouting.
Stop. They own the legal system that
(07:23):
will achieve nothing. We need action.
Disproportionate violent action,pain and suffering.
Oh, OK. Like having a normal 1.
Jeffrey, I want to know what's going on in this guy's personal
life. I I want to know who cheated.
Sounds like a lot of drinking isI?
Want to know I want to know who Jeffrey walked in on with his
(07:47):
wife. Because like this guy.
Is this what? Is this what happens if you are
growing up and you like accidentally watch your parents
have sex? Like this guy is this guy is in
trouble like you. You can almost feel the porn
tabs open like on the like on his Chrome like and the and the
doers. You can just like feel like the
(08:08):
way this was written. We need to raise the cost,
obviating the social contract. Measure it in blood if
necessary. Change requires pain, and you're
either taking it or inflicting it.
He closes it off. I know which side I'm on and I'm
more than ready to start puttingpeople in the shed.
(08:32):
OK, what? That's a reference.
The shed thing is a reference tothat story we kind of skipped
over about Teddy Roosevelt. He he tied it back.
Well, he's a writer as well as adrinker, so he's he did a little
writing there. We skipped over that.
We were like, OK, blah, blah, blah.
Conservative guy fucking history.
Bullshit it. It came to him when he was, you
(08:55):
know, refilling his 16 ounce cupof Evan Williams.
I I don't know, I have a lot of takes here that but I'm going to
try to streamline it for for because we don't want to go go
over long. We've been doing so many super
long podcast. I just want to say, Jared, that
these guys have always wanted tofucking kill us.
(09:17):
This is what I like about this is he he's he's seems like he
thinks that he's come up with this just now right when in
reality the whole point of the Trump movement, the whole MAGA
movement was to fucking punish any person who made have
(09:38):
supported Barack Obama or whatever put a black guy in
power or whatever else. And he they they've always
wanted to harm kill us. You know, you know this so well
because you have seen the ugly grunt stuff of the MAGA movement
in all these forums, right? Yeah.
(09:59):
What you see as you get more in into more mainstream spaces,
including Fox News and whatever,it gets a little bit more
sanitized. But most of what you would see
like on 4 Chan and 8 Chan Gab and whatever a parlor would were
just calls to like absolutely maim people of color, liberals,
(10:22):
leftists, communists, socialists, right?
This is nothing. This is this is he's he's acting
like he just stumbled into something brand new, when in
reality, this is something he always wanted to.
I think we were talking about this before where it's just sort
of like, OK, enough is enough. I want another doughnut, you
(10:42):
know? I mean, it's like, you know,
it's like, it's like, it's like,you know, he's asking for
something. He's asking for something like
like as if it's new when it's inreality it's something he very
obviously wants and has always wanted.
Yeah, he's, he's acting like, oh, you know, I'm a sweet
gentleman. And it's like the, the whole,
(11:03):
it's a Teddy Roosevelt quote, right?
It's like, speak softly and carry a big stick.
It's like he's trying to channelthat where he's just like you,
you've broken this gentleman. And I, I'm a little sick and
twisted now, but daily, The Daily Caller readership loves to
click on articles that are just like, watch this dumb woman get
(11:26):
punched and all. And they just bark like seals.
And they're like. Of course, of course.
As long as the woman's liberal, that's the important part.
Not like that. This guy Polish fucking writers
who who are also Proud Boys and like, you know, and white
nationalists, right? I mean, it's this is this is
nothing new to him. He's been like this forever.
(11:48):
I just hate this flex where it'slike, OK, enough is enough,
enough is enough. Now I want violence.
Of course you always wanted violence.
You just think that now is this window has opened up where you
can be even more angry and fucking insane because Charlie
Kirk was murdered.
It's becoming clear what he's upset about Dow, which is that
he saw some viral videos of conservatives getting punched
and is upset that the people whopunched them are not facing
harsher legal consequences. So he goes on about that a
little bit more, and let's see. OK, now.
(00:25):
Now we're getting to his solution for this.
I'm excited. How do we fix this?
In corrupt legal scenarios wherethe judges, prosecutors and even
police are all part of a rigged system, what can we do?
Choose violence. We all know the government is
(00:46):
not going to help you in your time of need, especially as
Soros sponsored government. I'm sorry, who's the president
right now? Unbelievable.
A sorrow sponsored government. What are you fucking talking?
It's Peter Peter Thiel and Elon Musk run the fucking country.
They're literally they're they're literally all over your
(01:08):
party and your party's in complete power.
I mean, it's it it anyway. There's no point in even, you
know, debating this person. Conservatives looking to
peacefully assemble and publiclydebate need to be realistic.
Nobody is going to help you. In fact, they're going to
encourage violence. They're going to excuse, justify
(01:31):
and encourage it. What are you doing, writer.
Drinker. Writer.
Drinker. What are you doing bro?
Self-awareness check. Yeah, The Daily Caller here.
We saw as much with Charlie Kirk.
They were practically begging someone to go after him.
And when someone did, they quickly justified it.
(01:51):
I'm sorry, who justified it? Yeah, they, they people online,
random ass people online. He.
Just saw he just saw a few tweets when he's fucking wasted.
He's like he's, you know, he's just like reeking of doers and
he's just like, oh fuck, you know, some some some expose with
like 1 like from a troll. Well, I think now that we know
the extent of it, the time to goas lambs to the slaughter is all
(02:15):
caps. Over, yes.
In real terms this means bring security with you.
That's dying to dole out drubbins.
I'm sure a fair amount of ex cons who found Jesus loved
Charlie Kirk. Maybe they need work?
What the fuck? Well, wait, hold on now.
(02:37):
Writer. Drinker.
Writer. Father Drinker.
Writer, drinker, hire of of of assassins and and like of the
criminal underworld. You should screen your security
guards for people who seem really violent.
So like what he's saying is the time is he's saying the time is
come in our politics for us to hire some ex-con who love
(02:58):
Charlie Kirk to gun down liberals.
Is that the I think that's what he's actually saying.
Is that a demographic of people?Of like, I know she don't know I
mean. Statistically, there's got to be
like 1, right? In his, in his mind, in his, in
his very constipated mind, it is.
Whatever works, we need to reinstitute the cost.
(03:22):
So some activist takes the sign next to your table at a public
debate like what happened here. She gets instantly closed lined
I. Don't care, this is his
fantasies. Remember though, Mike, the
editorial note at the top, this author, Jeffrey Ingersoll, only
supports self-defense. We.
(03:44):
Talk to the drunk. Self-defense situations, which
which everybody knows, that classic self-defense situation
where somebody takes a sign off your table and you have to
physically assault them, he says.
I don't care if police are present, do it anyway.
In fact, be wildly disproportionate.
(04:07):
A fat black lady assaults your on camera talent dog.
There it is. There you go.
Oopsies. Oopsies, Jeffrey, you told on
yourself. Here, book the kind of security
that has no qualms hospitalizingher and people like her.
Oh my God. Fuck man, it's also a woman.
You know, I think that's also telling.
(04:28):
OK, black woman, right? Fat woman.
Fat was. He's got a couple issues.
That's important for some reason, yeah.
He but then he won't, but but then also hospitalized.
You know, it's like, you know, when we're popping off in the
group chat and everybody's making jokes and saying things
like that and somebody says something a little loose, you
(04:50):
know, and you always feel bad. You're like, no, I'm not a FBII
don't mean that or whatever, just as a joke or whatever.
I never we never go this far. We'd even like, you know, we'd
never be like, you know, it's you never go like, oh, put
someone in the fucking hospital.Jesus age Christ.
Dudes, rope up your car and start vandalizing it.
Rope up, rope up like. No, he's that.
(05:12):
This. Is slang?
I don't know. The Doers is just writing itself
now. Bros dismounting with cudgels
will fix that real quick. Turn it into an instant brawl.
Break bones. OK.
Force corrupt police to intervene.
I want blood in the streets. The force hold on.
(05:34):
I need this like break this one sentence down.
I don't want to get too slow everything down, but force
corrupt police to intervene. Now hold, hold, hold on a
second. Well, first of all, it's pro
it's pro corrupt police, right? I, I mean, I, I thought the
whole fucking thing with these people is that the idea is that
like there are good cops and youknow, the idea that people are
(05:56):
falsely, he's saying the cops themselves are corrupt and then
force them. I, I don't understand, like you
force them when you bribe them. It just does he mean, but he's
force them. Why would you have to force them
if they're corrupt? I'll pick up here.
Then then he writes. Speaking of costs, such a
posture is indeed costly. It'll cost money.
(06:18):
Firstly, security isn't cheap. It'll likely cost about $1000 a
day for just two guys. It'll also come at a social cost
and a legal cost. Bragg might not not prosecute
militant liberals, but he'll certainly take a conservative
organization to court if his St.Brutes are harmed.
But you know what else isn't cheap?
(06:39):
The social compact. In America.
It comes. At alarms.
Yeah, all of a sudden he's, you know.
Now he's sentimental. This country.
This country is a fucking. Shit hole.
And but, but the social compact.Yeah, OK.
If patriots aren't willing to step up and bear the burden, our
(07:00):
people will continue to be harassed, assaulted, even killed
with impunity. What's clear to me in these two
examples is that liberals believe they have a monopoly on
both legal and extra legal acts of violence.
They don't. We need to show them they don't.
We must stop clutching our principles and shouting.
Stop. They own the legal system that
(07:23):
will achieve nothing. We need action.
Disproportionate violent action,pain and suffering.
Oh, OK. Like having a normal 1.
Jeffrey, I want to know what's going on in this guy's personal
life. I I want to know who cheated.
Sounds like a lot of drinking isI?
Want to know I want to know who Jeffrey walked in on with his
(07:47):
wife. Because like this guy.
Is this what? Is this what happens if you are
growing up and you like accidentally watch your parents
have sex? Like this guy is this guy is in
trouble like you. You can almost feel the porn
tabs open like on the like on his Chrome like and the and the
doers. You can just like feel like the
(08:08):
way this was written. We need to raise the cost,
obviating the social contract. Measure it in blood if
necessary. Change requires pain, and you're
either taking it or inflicting it.
He closes it off. I know which side I'm on and I'm
more than ready to start puttingpeople in the shed.
(08:32):
OK, what? That's a reference.
The shed thing is a reference tothat story we kind of skipped
over about Teddy Roosevelt. He he tied it back.
Well, he's a writer as well as adrinker, so he's he did a little
writing there. We skipped over that.
We were like, OK, blah, blah, blah.
Conservative guy fucking history.
Bullshit it. It came to him when he was, you
(08:55):
know, refilling his 16 ounce cupof Evan Williams.
I I don't know, I have a lot of takes here that but I'm going to
try to streamline it for for because we don't want to go go
over long. We've been doing so many super
long podcast. I just want to say, Jared, that
these guys have always wanted tofucking kill us.
(09:17):
This is what I like about this is he he's he's seems like he
thinks that he's come up with this just now right when in
reality the whole point of the Trump movement, the whole MAGA
movement was to fucking punish any person who made have
(09:38):
supported Barack Obama or whatever put a black guy in
power or whatever else. And he they they've always
wanted to harm kill us. You know, you know this so well
because you have seen the ugly grunt stuff of the MAGA movement
in all these forums, right? Yeah.
(09:59):
What you see as you get more in into more mainstream spaces,
including Fox News and whatever,it gets a little bit more
sanitized. But most of what you would see
like on 4 Chan and 8 Chan Gab and whatever a parlor would were
just calls to like absolutely maim people of color, liberals,
(10:22):
leftists, communists, socialists, right?
This is nothing. This is this is he's he's acting
like he just stumbled into something brand new, when in
reality, this is something he always wanted to.
I think we were talking about this before where it's just sort
of like, OK, enough is enough. I want another doughnut, you
(10:42):
know? I mean, it's like, you know,
it's like, it's like, it's like,you know, he's asking for
something. He's asking for something like
like as if it's new when it's inreality it's something he very
obviously wants and has always wanted.
Yeah, he's, he's acting like, oh, you know, I'm a sweet
gentleman. And it's like the, the whole,
(11:03):
it's a Teddy Roosevelt quote, right?
It's like, speak softly and carry a big stick.
It's like he's trying to channelthat where he's just like you,
you've broken this gentleman. And I, I'm a little sick and
twisted now, but daily, The Daily Caller readership loves to
click on articles that are just like, watch this dumb woman get
(11:26):
punched and all. And they just bark like seals.
And they're like. Of course, of course.
As long as the woman's liberal, that's the important part.
Not like that. This guy Polish fucking writers
who who are also Proud Boys and like, you know, and white
nationalists, right? I mean, it's this is this is
nothing new to him. He's been like this forever.
(11:48):
I just hate this flex where it'slike, OK, enough is enough,
enough is enough. Now I want violence.
Of course you always wanted violence.
You just think that now is this window has opened up where you
can be even more angry and fucking insane because Charlie
Kirk was murdered.
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