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So then, on Truth Social, you'vegot Donald Trump.
And so it begins. What begins I to me the and so
it begins is like one of those comic book type lines that you
might throw out when you don't actually have something to say.
When you just got when you just got humiliated in a significant
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way, When you know that everybody who had a chance to
vote in the country or every like a majority of people who
had a chance to vote in the country voted against.
Basically you and you just say, and so it begins right as you
just like come out in your pajamas and peek your head out
and just say that. And you know, you just throw it
out of there because you actually don't know what to say.
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I think that Trump's ego is so big even he did not anticipate
this kind of shellacking. Well, earlier in the night, he
posted something he's like, well, according to the pollsters
we're talking about, the main issues that hurt Republicans
were that I wasn't on the ballotspecifically and that people are
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getting pretty fed up with the government shutdown, which
they've tried so hard to blame on Democrats.
But the country, I think, very clearly understands, you know.
Some some sombreros didn't work,yeah.
Sombreros didn't work, and you can't be like the Democrats are.
They're the reason that we're not doing SNAP benefits and
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stuff while you're throwing Great Gatsby parties, not
realizing in that novel that thepeople at the party are like the
bad people in the novel. These people don't read books.
Jared, you know it's possible. And then this is this is crazy
that maybe people looked at the doge cuts months and months of
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that and associated that also with the shutdown.
It's like, hey, maybe one of these sides is actually really
adverse to any of the governmentdoing anything decent to for
people other than, you know, carrying out retribution
campaigns with, with masked men.To me, what this means and I, I,
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I don't want to say that Nick isright about this, but I do think
that the core of what Maggie is,is now really up for grabs.
I really think Trump is approaching 80.
The they have tried, as Nick said, their way.
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We've tried it their way. And I think that, like, you
know, what those griper people seem to believe as America First
is the only thing that is close to a coherent political program
in the sense it is really. It's explicitly fascist.
Yeah. But but you it's.
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Explicitly fascist. But but you know what it wants.
What you have ultimately here islike this, this thing that is
both fascist and authoritarian and also sloppy and grifty and
corrupt and just like just siphoning money, promising a new
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world of fascism on one hand, giving some brutality and really
just playing in the old world for all the money that they can
steal from whomever, right? Anything that isn't nailed down,
which has been covered really well, honestly by South Park of
of all shows. But yeah, I, I, I really think
that they don't have a project that people are in their people
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are enthusiastic for at the level it needs to be.
And also Trump, like I said, 80,he is a lame duck.
I don't know if there's going tobe that kind if they take an, if
they take another beating duringthe midterms, I don't know if
they'll be that the the enthusiasm that Trump needs in
order to really do this whole third term takeover that he
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wants to talk, that he talks about.
I, I think a way to think about this is that the MAGA project is
like an older property at this point in politics.
It has gone through the phases. There have been and now there is
like a head shop that is clearlylike laundering money in this
storefront. And I, I think there is a sense
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from people like Fuentes or people in sort of the more
aggressive parts of the Republican movement that this
property is about to get foreclosed on.
And maybe that's why we're seeing so much Fuentes.
Maybe that's why we're seeing somany people trying to
differentiate themselves. Why we're seeing these factions
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going at war with each other right now is there's a sense
that this is going to the auction block soon and they are
kind of testing things out or feeling things out to see what
happens. What what do you do with the
bones of this project? Because it has taken the
Republican Party so far off chart from where it was pre
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Trump. So if Trump does try to run
again, it'll be what, 84 at thatpoint.
So if the Democrats put somebodywho's like 40-5 in there and can
speak a coherent sentence, he's cooked.
He's dead. I've spoken a lot about my
concerns about voting irregularities and voter
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suppression, not a factor here, thank God.
And let's keep that going. I've always said that like, feel
free to come to me and say like,hey, nothing happened and I will
be so happy to hear it, you know, but I could easily see.
So it begins as being like the time in which they they, they do
that. I never thought the 2025 was
really the target for something like that.
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They might experiment with it byby having, you know, soldiers
around polling places or something, but that they
wouldn't they wouldn't go all in2026, though, is different.
And if it looks like it's going to be really, really bad for
them. This is a kind of desperate
animal and we've seen their desperation like they they
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pulled out successes by doing insane things in in the past
mega. You know, I could see them just
going back to the well with crazy and trying to do, you
know, hey, they'll do something that on on on his face would
embarrass anyone else and just do it right.
So they may say like things are not like this was this result
sucked. Let's see what we can do about
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it. Like, you know, whatever it is.
I think, you know, opponents of MAGA because I don't want to say
Democrats because I don't know, you know, I don't identify as
such. And I don't think you know
necessarily a lot of our listeners necessarily do.
Yeah, I I also hate the Democrats, but it's more of like
a contempt thing. Yes, yes, and the and the these
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winners ideologically are probably all, you know,
relatively all over the map between Mumdani and and and and
some of the other winners expandrigor and stuff like that.
But I guess what I would say is,you know, just probably the way
to look at this is, is defangingMAGA is one victory at a time.
And that's not just voting. In fact, voting maybe not.
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The the most important thing is things like the no kings
protests. I noticed we're polling, you
know, pretty close to 505 hundred in the country.
It's like in the in the high 40s, which is crazy for one of
these. I think it's actually that type
of work more than anything will undercut MAGA and and probably
played a role in the results that we see here.
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It changes like the social feeling around this stuff,
Trump's tweet, like I don't wantto read too much into like the
ramblings of Trump post or whatever, but he says, you know,
so it begins. It I think is sort of the
keyword here. It's not like, oh, rough night,
man, we lost some elections, whatever.
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Something they see something coming for them.
They see something is headed directly at them and this is the
start of it. And I think the left would be
good to start thinking about it the same way and get excited
about that and realize that likebad shit is not inevitable.
Feels almost cringe to save. Like yes, good things can happen
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if you are in solidarity, if youare organized as communities, if
you fight for some shit, you canwin it.
Kind of Rampling point a lot of thoughts in my head.
Right. Because it's like, I thought
Zoran would win, but I didn't expect it.
These sweeps across other statestoo.
And I feel I, I'm kind of like bouncing all over my words here,
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but I feel like a shimmer of optimism that I haven't felt in
a while. And it it feels a little
strange. I also just didn't sleep that
much last night so. It's Chuck Todd's shiver up the
leg or whatever. I don't even remember that with
Obama. It's like, oh.
I felt a shiver up my thigh, directly into my groin.