November 25, 2025 • 10 mins
Our appetizer this holiday is a dive into the latest "Red Scare" discourse after Dasha WhatsHerFace reflects on her recent wave of online backlash. Then we dust off the Olivia Nuzzi pop track “Jailbait” (yes, it exists) and admit it’s more fun than American Canto. For the main course, we look at the stranger corners of RFK Jr. gossip, courtesy of Ryan Lizza. For dessert, our pumpkin pie comes in the form of a purported multinational plot against Candace Owens — stay safe out there, ma’am!
Have a great holiday and please enjoy RFK Jr.’s bountiful harvest. Or don’t.
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(00:00):
OK, so this is a kind of, this is the fun holiday spirit that
we're we're offering. Maybe you're having a rough time
with your in laws, right? Maybe your uncle is embarrassing
you. Maybe you know you you'd rather
be somewhere else than where youare on Thanksgiving.
Well, you have an opportunity now to learn about what RFK
(00:23):
Junior gets off on sexually. Who do we think does a better
RFK voice? I don't know, I'm, I'm I, I'm
going to lapse into the Red Scare voice.
We were just doing so. OK, how about you read this?
I'll do RF KS voice. OK, it was four years later.
Another presidential campaign, another book project, another
(00:45):
candidate whom she had profiled.Another note, a poem, according
to Olivia, though this time fromthe candidate to her your.
Ear open mouth. Oh, waiting my harvest.
Oh God. Robert F Kennedy Junior, who is
now the Secretary of Health and Human Services, had written to
my then fiance. Drink from me, love.
(01:07):
Oh my God. OK, so if you can hear over over
Jared's RFK, he said Your your open mouth awaiting my harvest.
Drink from me, love. He continued, I.
Mean to squeeze your cheeks? Divorce.
Open your mouth. Oh go hold your nose as you look
(01:27):
offend me. See this.
Man, to encourage you to swallow.
Don't spill a drop. I am a river.
You are my Canyon. I mean to flow through you.
I mean to subdue you and tame you, my love.
Oh my God, dude. Was it good?
(01:50):
Did I do OK? Yeah, it was fine.
I'm just, it's like, it's like Ican't even, I can't even think.
About it, you should translate this again in case people don't
understand. Me, you need to squeeze your
cheeks to force open your mouth.So romantic, by the way.
Yeah, this is you. You bomb your, you know, the
(02:11):
entire relationship. With this, as you look up at me
to encourage you to swallow, don't spill a drop.
I am a river. Oh my God, you are my Canyon.
Like actually, if you've eaten already, just put the podcast
down and come back to it. You are my Canyon.
(02:31):
I mean to flow through you. I mean to subdue you.
Subdue and tame you, my love. We should skip ahead a bit
because I kind of copied and pasted the whole thing in this
document that's. Fine, but that's fine.
We understandably. It was delightful.
Yeah, So what we're learning from Ryan Lizza is there was
(02:55):
this voice memo where her and Mark Sanford are giggling.
Also, Olivia Nuzzi apparently wrote a tabloid style news story
about quote how sources in Washington DC and Charleston
have been buzzing recently aboutan unexpected romance.
Mark Sanford and Olivia Nuzzi, who was described as one of the
(03:16):
most famous political reporters in America.
A blonde beauty who gained critical acclaim as a skilled
profile writer, gaining access to the powerful and the
mysterious and turning it into pure journalistic gold.
She was also the writer and performer of Jailbait.
Yeah. But also, this is how Olivia
sees herself, right? Like I said, it's, it's, it's
(03:39):
still the like child actor, child model, you know, pop star
thing, except she's doing it in a field where that isn't exactly
the way it goes. So skipping ahead, Ryan starts
talking about when he tells Olivia that she's got to get out
of his house after the RFK stuffcomes to light.
(04:01):
Says it was finally the end for us, which in many ways was
relief. It took a while to get through
the formalities of her initial denials about Bobby.
I have not cheated on you, she said over and over again.
I didn't do anything. I told her it didn't matter what
she said because we're done withthat.
She offered her first concession.
(04:23):
Do I have a personal relationship with him?
Yes, she said. Did I cheat on you?
No. It went like this for a while,
with her gradually offering morehonest explanations and adding
new details until she held firm about one line she swore she
never crossed. I'm not denying there's a
relationship, she said. But I'm telling you the truth
(04:44):
that I have not had a physical relationship with him.
I've never had sex with him. I've never touched him.
That seemed improbable. Olivia first interviewed Bobby
in July 2023 for a piece about Fran Drescher that was never
published. She had texted me at the time,
just talked to RFK. He's crazy.
(05:05):
Just I want to interject the friend Fran Drescher was kind of
leading the union response on, you know, in the in the, in the
strike around Hollywood writers,I believe for writers and
actors. I can't remember actors also.
So that's why I was friend Rush or not, because she's fucking
awesome. She loved crazy people, so it
should have been a red flag, though I thought nothing of it.
(05:28):
But a seed had been planted, andshe soon returned to LA and
interviewed him during a hike when he grabbed her hand hard
and wouldn't let go, which she told me and others had
frightened and disturbed her. Her profile of Bobby came out in
November. It was now August.
Could it really be possible thatthey carried on for all this
time and she never touched him, at least not since she grabbed
(05:51):
her on that hike? I swear, she said.
As she opened up about what had really happened, she made clear
that there was an intensity to this affair that was beyond the
2020 infatuation. That other thing she said,
referring to Mark, was one eventand nobody loved anybody.
(06:12):
With Bobby, she loved him, but Iquote I never slept with him.
I don't know, I don't know. Again, I'm just going to skip
ahead here. But I want to get to the
dominance and submission part ofit.
So the things before we get there, Ryan Lissa says Olivia
(06:34):
became obsessed with RFK Junior.There's one line in here
specifically that I think a lot of people have glazed over,
which is, quote, including her catch and kill operations on his
behalf, the campaign strategy memo she wrote him, and other
journalistic transcriptions thathave still not been disclosed.
I actually missed the campaign strategy memo part first time I
(06:56):
read it. Yeah, so, so she is basically
operating as a member of his political campaign while
covering him. I swear to God, Vanity Fair is
apparently reviewing her her employment if they don't fire
her or cut ties or whatever it is.
I I really do think people should organize a boycott or
(07:18):
whatever of their links or you cannot.
This is insane that she like imagine somebody you knew one of
our friends you found out was I mean, what would you even do?
Like, I mean, it would like thatwould end a friendship for me to
find out that somebody's, I don't even care what campaign.
If I was working for Zora Mamdani and I was doing catch
and kill operations for him, which is basically like keeping
(07:40):
stories out of the press, right?And then writing his memos
undisclosed. I mean, it'd be different if I
left to work for him. That's a different thing.
But doing that while still carrying on as a journalist for
a publication is so unethical and disgusting.
It's not even doing that and still working as a journalist,
but doing that and working as a journalist and covering that
(08:04):
person. No, yeah, it's, it's it's.
It'd be like I I cover the Zorancampaign for the New York Times
and also on the side I work for him.
It's a grand. I send nudes to him and like he
texts me about a lot of people seem to think it was like, oh,
(08:24):
he's like, pardon my French folks.
Again, If you're eating, pause it come back.
People think this is maybe aboutlike him ejaculating in her
mouth, but the way I read this, I think he's it's like, like
piss play. Yeah, I think.
I think he's like, it could be. It could.
Be it's open. I don't know where, what his
harvest is, you know? But it's if he's a river and
(08:46):
she's the Canyon, he wants her to swallow all the drops.
I mean that. OK.
And also, I'm going to apologizefor this as well it sounds.
Like his play to me. Man, I mean at his age with all
the steroids or whatever, he what we don't know.
He does steroids it looks like. I will just say reporting tone
posting through it looks like RFK Junior has used steroids
(09:08):
based on his body. That is my personal opinion and
not an opinion of this body. Michael Hayden's opinion.
I looked at him and I thought, wow, that looks like a kind of
guy who might when he when he did his shirt, might have might
have taken steroids at some point.
I don't know if he has or not Guys, that's just me.
But anyway, I don't know. What kind of loads exactly are
you blowing in your 70s with that kind of physical?
(09:29):
I shouldn't even say that. Should I say that?
I'm sorry, everyone, I apologize.
Nobody wants to think about him ejaculating.
But, you know, we're just covering the news right now.
Yeah, this is the news, guys. This is the news.
I'm sorry. I'm so sorry, but I know.
Yeah. Anyway, I'm sorry guys.
Mike, you want to guide us through the the subdom?
(09:52):
Thing oh God, I want to apologize to everyone, including
the people who are not listening.
I just I'm sorry for everything in my life.
I'm sorry, OK? I'm just everything.
I'm just everything. I'll be dead eventually guys, so
just please just go easy on me.
OK, so this is a kind of, this is the fun holiday spirit that
we're we're offering. Maybe you're having a rough time
with your in laws, right? Maybe your uncle is embarrassing
you. Maybe you know you you'd rather
be somewhere else than where youare on Thanksgiving.
Well, you have an opportunity now to learn about what RFK
(00:23):
Junior gets off on sexually. Who do we think does a better
RFK voice? I don't know, I'm, I'm I, I'm
going to lapse into the Red Scare voice.
We were just doing so. OK, how about you read this?
I'll do RF KS voice. OK, it was four years later.
Another presidential campaign, another book project, another
(00:45):
candidate whom she had profiled.Another note, a poem, according
to Olivia, though this time fromthe candidate to her your.
Ear open mouth. Oh, waiting my harvest.
Oh God. Robert F Kennedy Junior, who is
now the Secretary of Health and Human Services, had written to
my then fiance. Drink from me, love.
(01:07):
Oh my God. OK, so if you can hear over over
Jared's RFK, he said Your your open mouth awaiting my harvest.
Drink from me, love. He continued, I.
Mean to squeeze your cheeks? Divorce.
Open your mouth. Oh go hold your nose as you look
(01:27):
offend me. See this.
Man, to encourage you to swallow.
Don't spill a drop. I am a river.
You are my Canyon. I mean to flow through you.
I mean to subdue you and tame you, my love.
Oh my God, dude. Was it good?
(01:50):
Did I do OK? Yeah, it was fine.
I'm just, it's like, it's like Ican't even, I can't even think.
About it, you should translate this again in case people don't
understand. Me, you need to squeeze your
cheeks to force open your mouth.So romantic, by the way.
Yeah, this is you. You bomb your, you know, the
(02:11):
entire relationship. With this, as you look up at me
to encourage you to swallow, don't spill a drop.
I am a river. Oh my God, you are my Canyon.
Like actually, if you've eaten already, just put the podcast
down and come back to it. You are my Canyon.
(02:31):
I mean to flow through you. I mean to subdue you.
Subdue and tame you, my love. We should skip ahead a bit
because I kind of copied and pasted the whole thing in this
document that's. Fine, but that's fine.
We understandably. It was delightful.
Yeah, So what we're learning from Ryan Lizza is there was
(02:55):
this voice memo where her and Mark Sanford are giggling.
Also, Olivia Nuzzi apparently wrote a tabloid style news story
about quote how sources in Washington DC and Charleston
have been buzzing recently aboutan unexpected romance.
Mark Sanford and Olivia Nuzzi, who was described as one of the
(03:16):
most famous political reporters in America.
A blonde beauty who gained critical acclaim as a skilled
profile writer, gaining access to the powerful and the
mysterious and turning it into pure journalistic gold.
She was also the writer and performer of Jailbait.
Yeah. But also, this is how Olivia
sees herself, right? Like I said, it's, it's, it's
(03:39):
still the like child actor, child model, you know, pop star
thing, except she's doing it in a field where that isn't exactly
the way it goes. So skipping ahead, Ryan starts
talking about when he tells Olivia that she's got to get out
of his house after the RFK stuffcomes to light.
(04:01):
Says it was finally the end for us, which in many ways was
relief. It took a while to get through
the formalities of her initial denials about Bobby.
I have not cheated on you, she said over and over again.
I didn't do anything. I told her it didn't matter what
she said because we're done withthat.
She offered her first concession.
(04:23):
Do I have a personal relationship with him?
Yes, she said. Did I cheat on you?
No. It went like this for a while,
with her gradually offering morehonest explanations and adding
new details until she held firm about one line she swore she
never crossed. I'm not denying there's a
relationship, she said. But I'm telling you the truth
(04:44):
that I have not had a physical relationship with him.
I've never had sex with him. I've never touched him.
That seemed improbable. Olivia first interviewed Bobby
in July 2023 for a piece about Fran Drescher that was never
published. She had texted me at the time,
just talked to RFK. He's crazy.
(05:05):
Just I want to interject the friend Fran Drescher was kind of
leading the union response on, you know, in the in the, in the
strike around Hollywood writers,I believe for writers and
actors. I can't remember actors also.
So that's why I was friend Rush or not, because she's fucking
awesome. She loved crazy people, so it
should have been a red flag, though I thought nothing of it.
(05:28):
But a seed had been planted, andshe soon returned to LA and
interviewed him during a hike when he grabbed her hand hard
and wouldn't let go, which she told me and others had
frightened and disturbed her. Her profile of Bobby came out in
November. It was now August.
Could it really be possible thatthey carried on for all this
time and she never touched him, at least not since she grabbed
(05:51):
her on that hike? I swear, she said.
As she opened up about what had really happened, she made clear
that there was an intensity to this affair that was beyond the
2020 infatuation. That other thing she said,
referring to Mark, was one eventand nobody loved anybody.
(06:12):
With Bobby, she loved him, but Iquote I never slept with him.
I don't know, I don't know. Again, I'm just going to skip
ahead here. But I want to get to the
dominance and submission part ofit.
So the things before we get there, Ryan Lissa says Olivia
(06:34):
became obsessed with RFK Junior.There's one line in here
specifically that I think a lot of people have glazed over,
which is, quote, including her catch and kill operations on his
behalf, the campaign strategy memo she wrote him, and other
journalistic transcriptions thathave still not been disclosed.
I actually missed the campaign strategy memo part first time I
(06:56):
read it. Yeah, so, so she is basically
operating as a member of his political campaign while
covering him. I swear to God, Vanity Fair is
apparently reviewing her her employment if they don't fire
her or cut ties or whatever it is.
I I really do think people should organize a boycott or
(07:18):
whatever of their links or you cannot.
This is insane that she like imagine somebody you knew one of
our friends you found out was I mean, what would you even do?
Like, I mean, it would like thatwould end a friendship for me to
find out that somebody's, I don't even care what campaign.
If I was working for Zora Mamdani and I was doing catch
and kill operations for him, which is basically like keeping
(07:40):
stories out of the press, right?And then writing his memos
undisclosed. I mean, it'd be different if I
left to work for him. That's a different thing.
But doing that while still carrying on as a journalist for
a publication is so unethical and disgusting.
It's not even doing that and still working as a journalist,
but doing that and working as a journalist and covering that
(08:04):
person. No, yeah, it's, it's it's.
It'd be like I I cover the Zorancampaign for the New York Times
and also on the side I work for him.
It's a grand. I send nudes to him and like he
texts me about a lot of people seem to think it was like, oh,
(08:24):
he's like, pardon my French folks.
Again, If you're eating, pause it come back.
People think this is maybe aboutlike him ejaculating in her
mouth, but the way I read this, I think he's it's like, like
piss play. Yeah, I think.
I think he's like, it could be. It could.
Be it's open. I don't know where, what his
harvest is, you know? But it's if he's a river and
(08:46):
she's the Canyon, he wants her to swallow all the drops.
I mean that. OK.
And also, I'm going to apologizefor this as well it sounds.
Like his play to me. Man, I mean at his age with all
the steroids or whatever, he what we don't know.
He does steroids it looks like. I will just say reporting tone
posting through it looks like RFK Junior has used steroids
(09:08):
based on his body. That is my personal opinion and
not an opinion of this body. Michael Hayden's opinion.
I looked at him and I thought, wow, that looks like a kind of
guy who might when he when he did his shirt, might have might
have taken steroids at some point.
I don't know if he has or not Guys, that's just me.
But anyway, I don't know. What kind of loads exactly are
you blowing in your 70s with that kind of physical?
(09:29):
I shouldn't even say that. Should I say that?
I'm sorry, everyone, I apologize.
Nobody wants to think about him ejaculating.
But, you know, we're just covering the news right now.
Yeah, this is the news, guys. This is the news.
I'm sorry. I'm so sorry, but I know.
Yeah. Anyway, I'm sorry guys.
Mike, you want to guide us through the the subdom?
(09:52):
Thing oh God, I want to apologize to everyone, including
the people who are not listening.
I just I'm sorry for everything in my life.
I'm sorry, OK? I'm just everything.
I'm just everything. I'll be dead eventually guys, so
just please just go easy on me.
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