063: MAGA Reaches the 'Hellraiser' Stage [Preview]

Jared is in New York. Mike is in West Virginia. But no matter where you are in America, it’s easy to see that Trump and his MAGA movement are heading for some really, really, really dark shit. 

Following the gruesome murder of Rob Reiner, Trump decided to mock the director’s death and insinuate that his liberal politics caused it. The hosts frame Trump’s words in the context of a movement that has gotten increasingly scary and bleak in recent months–sort of like Hellraiser II. They wonder what it must be like inside Trump’s circle, using Susie Wiles’ revealing words as context. 

Finally, Jared and Mike discuss the rise and fall of “groypette” Cali Ryan, who chased an audience of incels only to discover that they sexualized and threatened her. Things are certainly getting morbid on the right. Let’s all hope they don’t take us down with them–on this premium feed episode of Posting Through It.

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
By the way, this is this is one of those things, Jared, where
he's like, you know, the meme nobody, nobody at all.
And then someone put, you know, and then there's a call and they
say something that that meme. Trump decided to pipe in about
this. Yeah, so after Reiner and his
wife Michelle were killed, Trumpput a big long post on Truth

(00:26):
Social, which the posts there are called Truths.
Did you know that? So the president.
I I just assumed they were it was just they they weren't
called anything because it is really just Trump's personal
squawk box at this point. There's anyone else posting on
that side? More than you would think.
That's like, I'm in, I'm in New York for something with open

(00:47):
measures and like, we have a bunch of Truth Social data and
it's that site's more bumping than you would think.
But yeah, the post, if you post there, you're truthing
something. And if you share someone else's
post, you're retruting it. So, So I should say, Trump
truthed that Reiner and his wifewere killed, quote, reportedly

(01:12):
due to the anger he caused others through his massive,
unyielding, incurable afflictionwith a mind crippling to Zine
known as Trapped Arrangement Syndrome.
That's all caps. Yeah, he said that Rob Reiner
was, quote, known to have drivenpeople crazy.

(01:35):
Again, all caps by his raging obsession of President Donald J
Trump referring to himself in third person here, with his
obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump
administration surpassed all goals and expectations of
greatness, which I I cannot do Impressions.

(02:01):
That was as close as you're going to get from me to a Trump
impression. But his post was not very
popular. A lot of Republicans in Congress
have disavowed, sometimes explicitly or at the very least
walked off support for this statement.

(02:24):
All kinds of right wing social media personalities, even the
most sycophant, you know, bootlicking lap dogs of mega
media were like, this is wrong, we shouldn't do this.
And a reporter asked him about it at the White House this week,
and Trump doubled down. Here's a clip of that.

(02:48):
Do you stand by that post? Well, I wasn't a fan of his at
all. He was a deranged person as far
as Trump is concerned. He said he liked, he knew it was
false. In fact, it's the exact opposite
that I was a friend of Russia, controlled by Russia, you know,
is the Russia hoax. He was one of the people behind
it. I think he hurt himself in

(03:08):
career wise. He became like a deranged
person. Trump Derangement Syndrome.
So I was not a fan of Rob Reinerat all in any way, shape or
form. I thought he was very bad for
our country. Yeah.
Yeah, this is. A.
This is a big one I think and. Again he referred.
He referred to himself in third person again.

(03:28):
Right. He's he was not a fan of, Trump
said. He's what?
He sounds worse. He sounds worse when he's saying
it than when he's posting because when he's look, when
people are posting and they post, they shit post, which is
essentially what Trump did there.
You get you. There's always an opportunity to
to write it off as a shit post, right?

(03:49):
You can always just say like I Iwas just blown off steam.
It was an inappropriate joke or whatever.
Or just like I said, what I saidmay.
Rest in peace, whatever it is. Yeah.
Or if it's really bad, you know,if you're the president or a
politician, you can be like, a staffer wrote this and like it
wasn't right. We offer condolences, whatever

(04:10):
you know to hear him say it in his voice.
Well, I think actually in our analysis, we should point out
that Trump has never apologized for anything, which is his his
MO, right, That he doesn't do that, nor does it seem like he
thinks it's so, you know, necessary to apologize here.
The reason why I think this is important for us to talk about

(04:35):
is because this is fucking diabolical.
This is the most, this is one ofthe more insane statements I
have ever actually seen from Trump, and that's actually
saying something. I know he says crazy stuff.
The the statement in between thelines here is that Rob Reiner
had it coming, getting killed byhis son.
No, this is fucking crazy dude. This is.

(04:56):
Crazy because he didn't because he was an outspoken critic of
him. Let's, let's talk about the
context in which he also, he also said this, because we're
going to get into that more in asecond, because I really do
think that this is indicative ofsome serious trouble for these
people. This post actually is indicative
of trouble for these people because I think it, it reveals

(05:20):
an atrophying of this guy's mindand also of MAGA in general
contacts here. The economy is not doing well.
OK, that's one thing. People increasingly associate
Trump with pedophilia. We don't know exactly what he
did or didn't do with Epstein, right?
We know that he he was associated with him and we've

(05:42):
seen photographs now and the photographs, I don't know if you
see that photograph where it's like all the girls like faces
kind of blacked out. It looks like a fucking it looks
like a, a hidden a FX twin single or something like that.
It looks. Like it's album, we're calling
it like one of the guiltiest photos that's ever exist.
It's, it's like I mentioned the apex twin because it's it, you

(06:03):
know, that something deliberately to look surreal and
dark at the same time, somethingthat make you feel like you're
in a, like a, like you like you went to bed on, on hallucinogens
and had a bad dream, right. Yeah, 'cause there's.
There's even something to the aesthetic of it, right, 'cause
it's like a photo that was like clearly photocopied and then
like yeah, scammed again and re uploaded.

(06:25):
So it's got the, it's like kind of, it feels like kind of broken
a little bit you. Know yes, yes it it it yeah like
end of the Blair which normally goes thing which.
Yeah, normally goes fucking hard, but right the context.
Right. But, but you don't want your
president in the, you know, you don't want your president to
look like he's in some sort of fucking like nightmare scenario.

(06:47):
So people are seeing that they don't like that.
Independents don't like that. I don't think MAGA people like
the, the Epstein stuff. You have all you have this,
this, this nightmarish boat scandal, which we've covered on,
on posting through it, which is so scary.

(07:07):
It's so scary and fucking crazy,right?
People are repeatedly subjected to this idea that we people saw
fishermen bomb them and when they didn't die and we're
crawling for life, bomb them again.
Like it is a really dark thing, right?

(07:30):
Everything about MAGA right now is associated with Predator
violence. Scary, dark, bad right.
Like everything in the culture, there's nothing happy.
And, and what do you have to show for it?
Everything is getting more expensive.
The promised opportunity has notcome.

(07:52):
I mean, just just, you know, on Tuesday, JD Vance was talking.
And it's like, you know, how do we make housing more affordable?
We get rid of all the, you know,he calls them illegal
immigrants, as if people who arenot authorized to work in the
United States are buying houses.I don't know if you've, like,

(08:13):
opened Zillow lately and seen what a house goes for.
I'm sorry, you're telling. Me people.
That like cannot legally secure a mortgage.
Like they're buying houses in cash.
Are you kidding? But on top of.
That I think the reason. You can't.
Yeah. Like, like the reason you can't
afford to buy a house is the same fucking reason that JD

(08:35):
Vance is the Vice president of the United States.
Yeah, and, and and boomers are kind of aging out and every
generation down is having a harder time buying houses and
buying basically anything. So it's dark, it's ugly.
And in the middle of this, this guy, somehow he sees someone

(08:58):
stabbed to death by his own son who happened to dislike Trump.
You happen to criticize Trump. He happened to be a liberal.
He was an outspoken liberal his whole career.
It's easy to just blow it off and just say, like, we all love
stand by me and just fucking forget about it, right?
He sees this situation, right? There's blood.
The blood is still on the foot. People are horrified by this

(09:19):
murder, by the way. It's so scary.
A son kills his his parents. It's just, it's so scary.
It's like it's scary to everybody.
Everybody wants to hug their family when they hear stuff like
this. Yeah.
This has. Been.
A nightmare fuel. And this guy sees this in the
state with the way things are going.

(09:40):
And you know that Trump is aware.
He's so aware of criticism. He sees people all around him
criticizing him. And what he does is, is gloat
about a guy's fucking murder, about another celebrity of his
age, his murder. It's much bigger than just a

(10:01):
shitty post that people didn't like.
It is the biggest crack in the facade of MAGA that I have seen
all year or actually throughout the whole second term.
And that's like a weird thing. It is an unforced error the
likes of which I, I can't, I can't even imagine.
It's like quite literally like he's on offense and he's got the
ball and he throws it directly into the defense, like to

(10:22):
someone on purpose. Like I can't understand why no
one stopped him from saying something like this.
It's because he fires everybody who tells him no I.
Mean, that's true, but even those people, and we're going to
get into this with the Susie Wiles thing in a second before
having some fun with some reallystupid Internet shit.
I can't imagine anybody around him, even Stephen Miller.

(10:45):
I, I dare I say even Stephen Miller must be wincing at this
one because you just don't say anything.
Just focus on your messaging. Why would you?
It's, it's murder. It's murder of a of of of an
elderly couple.