November 29, 2025 • 35 mins
Today Mr. Music had the great opportunity to sit dowm and interview true Hip Hop artist RapStarr! We break down man things within the hip hop culture and how it has connected him to Hip Ho, something he has been writing and doing since agae 11!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
I got my man holding it down. Rap Star aka
Hurricane Can. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Bro? Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
What's good man? Thank you for having me on the show.
It's good man, Man.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's all good. Bro.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Now, a lot of people who know who get Minnesota artists,
Hollywood artists, East Coast artist, Texas artists.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Let them know where you're from.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
From the East Coast, baby, Pittsburgh, PA. You know what
it is man, east side?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Now, what's the connection is a lot of people? I
feel like, you know, it's Khalif made a little noise
for the for.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
The p town.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
But it's like, I feel like guys get easily overshadowed
by Philly and so talking to artists like he was
kind of refreshing. Now let's just take it back, man, Like,
take it back back. When did you even first write
your first joint?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Like?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
How old was you?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
How did that even come about?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I was I was around like maybe like eleven twelve.
You know around that age when I first started writing
my rhymes. You know, it was crazy though, because if
it wasn't for my favorite rapper actually you know, uh
influencing me to actually start rapping in my favorite rappers
(01:31):
Eminem slim Shading.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You know my word word where and you know, when
I seen him.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I remember being at my grandmother's Senior Citizens place. My
grandmother used to go to the c Citizens place and
after school she dragged me everywhere, you know, and the
old people they loved me up there, and I remember
I came home one day. I sat in the Cormon
room watching TV and I was watching tr L with
Cars Daily and they showed the D twelve blue and
(02:04):
Yellow pills And that was the first time I actually
seen like Eminem for real real and I got intrigued.
And when I started listening to more of his music,
you know, I decided, I was like, this is what
I want to do.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Oh yeah, was like like plar cool, just like my model,
A couple of dis beside the farm.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay with you young, full up off fun yo.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I never seen nothing like that. I was like, I
was like, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
And then you know, shortly after, you know, my mom
she worked for. She worked for two Pittsburgh radio stations,
and I remember she I would beg her to like
make me like a mixtape in one of my songs
that I wanted to download. With Eminem's Guilty Conscience, that's
like forever one of my buying because of you know,
(02:59):
his pigmin ship, the fact that he's telling the story
within his music.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
You know, you can get it.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
You know, everybody has that phone coin, you know, things
that they're going.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Through, you know, and it's just he's an amazing artist.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
And when he signed fifty cent in the G Unit,
then that's.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
When I decided I want to do hip hop for real.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So around that time, when the Gun the mixtape was
up and popping around like two thousand and two, two
thousand and three, I want to say it was two
thousand and three, yea, yeah, the mixtapes started popping. And
what I used to do was I used to go
to like the local record store in the neighborhood and
I would buy mixtapes. And it was not just you
(03:42):
know mixtapes, you know, like I had my dad used
to get like exclusive mixtapes, you know from DJ k Slay,
The Clue, the NVP Cutter, you know, all of them
guys who kid and you know, after that, I started
doing other mixtapes. Like there was mixtapes that people had
were it was just instrumentals. So you would have like
(04:05):
a mixtape that had nothing but eminem instrumentals, Doctor Dre Instruments,
fifty cent instruments, Timberland History, Scott Starts, you know, uh uh, instrumentals, premiere,
you know, instrumentals, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
And so what I would do is I would buy
these mixtapes.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
And when I would get these mixtapes, since they're already
in like the instrumental form, all I had to do
is just write the words, Yeah, just lay it down.
So that's when I taught myself how to write it
in the sixteen bolls each versus sixteen boys depending on.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
How the full matterstruction.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
So you would have like the sixteen boys, the eighteen boys,
the twenty boys. Yeah, and then the chorus is full balls, repetitive.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
You know, you gotta have it like you know, gotta
have a catchy hook.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Then you got the breakdowns, the bridges, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
So I kind of taught myself how to write like
hip hop form.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So I gotta ask you a question, man, like soul
because you're getting into music, writing songs and like doing
stuff as a pre teen.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, eleven years old, your preteen at that point.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Man, Like I'm playing Nintendo with Docy call and shit,
I'm asked my mom for like, you know, the new
the new Mortal Combat and shit, you over here working
on mixtapes.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
How do you think how do you think that helped
your outlook growing up? Do you think that even with words?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Do you think that made you more inclined with words
of the kids your age?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Did it help you spell better? Like? How is that?
How did that formancy your life outside of music?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Well, it was kind of like I was already going
in that direction because I was like when I was
real young, I was going to Catholic school. I was
already kind of ahead of the curve, Like I write
in cursive even till this day, like I get writing
in print, and even if I do write in print,
I'll switch back to cursive. But I write the cursive
like that's the Catholic school league. And I was exposed
(05:59):
to other things, like you know, being in play. So
I was reading Shakespeare like you know, second grade. I
was actually Romeo Romeo and Juliet in a play. You know,
when I was in second grade, so I was already
into it and into the entertainment like aspect and as
far as being a writer, like I'm a writer anyway,
(06:21):
like Outley used to write little short stories or I draw.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
That's like my number one talent is I know how
to draw.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I haven't drawn anything in a while, but I've been
drawing since I was one.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
So as I got older, I started a choiring.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Like different talents overhead head, you know, picking up different stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
So you know, it just all comes with it.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
And like I said, just me writing in the song
format and having to beat in different beats and you know,
coming up with different creative ideas to where it makes
you want to listen and grabs your audience, you know.
And I involved to a hip hop artist, like the
type of hip hop artists I am.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I'm like a proud of it because of like.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Making music for the people for not only like you
know the hip hop is, but for the nineties baby,
for the culture, for the blacks and the brown people.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
No, that's special, man, especially with all the negativity that
we have going on to hip hop. Man, that we
don't even see in country, we don't see in pop,
we don't see in rocket eedm just in our culture.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Now, with that being said, it seemed.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Like kind of been a performer in an art creator
from a young age. But when was the first time
you actually have to perform, and like where was that.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
At the first time I performed was at my college.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
When I went to college, I performed. It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So what I did was every like when I went
to college, I made everybody knew, like everybody knew like
around me that it was around me. I don't care
if it was faculty, staff, lunch lady and it is
stud And I let everybody know I can rap, and
damn it, everybody knew I can rap, to be on
point and everything like that. Well, people would actually like
(08:11):
be knocking on my doors, come out, I want to
hear something that that third, so they had the Black
Student Union put on a township every year a couple
of times a year year. It was my first time
actually going out for performing four people and I performed
each year each time they had the Black Student Union township.
(08:33):
I rock it like I would rock you like it
was crazy. I got like I'm on front page newspaper
at the California Pennsylvania University newspaper a few times. Uh,
they put me on a mural on a mural form
the hip hop conference. I was actually working on the
(08:54):
mural and what happened was we was they have a
hip hop conference every year, and I was a porto.
Actually performed for the hip hop conference too. This is
where I me at KRS one. This is where I
met Dougie Fresh Wow. Where I'm at Michael Erry Dyson.
This is where I met If you don't know, he
(09:14):
is the ancestor or his ancestor is the great, great,
great great Brand. He's the great great brandson of Oker T.
Washington and Frederick Douglas. His name is Kenneth B. Moore's
June at a pleasure of you know, meeting him while
I was in college. So I lot of I met
(09:35):
a lot of good people up in college and when
I performed these you know places, Even till this day,
there's times where I'm out and about and the people
that I went to college.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
But it was like, oh, I read used a lot
damn Like I.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Used to throw my shirts out into the crowd. Girls
are catching screaming and everything. I guess some of it
on YouTube and everything like that, Like.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It was, it was crazy, it's like l.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Cool copy Now when we looked at you, man, like
it's almost like when you talk, it's almost like you're
speaking of hip hop.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's kind of funny when we look at you. Your
your fashion culture says hip hop, the cult. You see
what I'm saying. Yeah, see the creed.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, so it's like then I got I got myself
too on a shirt too.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's what it's like.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
The culture has changed so much, man, and you've been
around for a lot of it. What's one of the
biggest things in the culture that has changed that you
think about so much that when you wish were still
there and the reason you go ask you re.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Questions like that.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But with you, I could tell you really from this
like we're from that same era. Brom I'm forty one
years old. Put that, I'm twenty one, so we can't
be too far off the way.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
You thought me.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, I'm thirty four, so.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah. I Mean.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
The thing that I miss most about it is.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
The authenticity the talent, like real talent, you know, not
just overnights you know, celebrities or overnight fame real yeah,
like real talent, and the fact that you would anticipate
multiple artists is coming out, not just one, but you
(11:31):
would get excited when Eminem would drop on the same days,
like dud right the same days, the mess, you know,
and everybody eight you know.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I think what it is is.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Everybody has a gimmick when it comes to being an autist.
It's like the gimmick is what salespeople, and the gimmick
keeps people.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
But I think people be more worried about them.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
And actually, you know, talent right right, everybody raps like
everybody rapp.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
So it's like.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
If everybody raps, but nobody's really saying it. And I
think that the underground hip hop of course has a
lot of talent, but it's just a glass ceiling.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Now it's a lot better now.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
With streaming and in views and everything like that, different
other things, is a lot better for artists to actually
reach the demography that they should.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
But at the same time, people like to encourage the bullshit,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
It's like, It's like, I'm there was a guy that
I see the other day at work and he's he's foreign,
he's from Russia and he comes here and he's like,
he's God bless America.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I love America. Is this America? Is that like the
man is all right, It's all right.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It was like you got the complexion for the protection,
for the collection exact. Somebody who looked like me would
have a different perspective of you, exactly history that comes
behind it. We're not really to pic cheerio and waving
the American flag. So it's just, you know, it's different, different,
(13:35):
you know, perspectives, and everybody got a different perspective when
it comes to hip hop. You know, there's certain things
where I'll say something and people would totally be like
flip or disagree.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Like I tell people, I say, you know what, the nineties,
between the eighties and the nineties was the golden age
of hip hop.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
But what it really started the pop was when multiple artists,
like I said before, would come out on the same
day and everybody sell like everybody.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Now we have like a culture where like if you
look at in women in hip hop, it feels like
nobody and hip hop could actually try to.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Acknowledge other females at the same time. It's like it
gotta be one person for right now. And then something else, and.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So how do you feel how do you feel about Nikki? Man?
Speaker 7 (14:39):
You feel Nikki be doing too much? You feel Nikki
don't give enough props to other systems or what. That's
how I feel if I saw if I met Nikki
interview or right now, like Nikki, what's your problem with
what's your problem with Caudi?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Man? What's your problem with these people that came after you?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I'm gonna say this. You know, I like Nikki's music,
the old Nikki. Yeah, yeah, your old Nikki.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
I'm a little Kim fan. And you know, Little Kim's
one of my biggest influences. And I remember watching the
documentary that she came out years ago called play Times Over,
and it was literally a whole documentary not just from
her perspective, but other people's perspective, like Lady Luck, if
you know Lady Luck and everything like that. Other people
(15:29):
in the industry is seeing certain things about how she's
copying herself off of this woman who also throwing jazz
at her at at the same time, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So it would be like me going on an interview
in saying I.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Love Eminem, I love fifty and then like in records,
I'm doing subliminal shots.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It's just you can't it just don't. It just don't
make sense. You know, you pay homage, You pay homage
to what it is you know.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
You know you can go only get in the game
because you see people, people alienating themselves away from people.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
People are crazy out here. Yeah I wasn't really crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I don't really like the fact that, like you said,
she was giving props a little kid and just switched
it up. And my biggest issue with her is she
ain't gave props for you. Nobody came after her except
for Ice Spice a little bit and that turns into
a more or two.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
So that's why I wanted to bring that little But
I'm moving forward. Man.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Here we are twenty twenty five. The landscape is different
than hip hop, you know what I'm saying. And a
lot of these kids where they hear this real hip hop,
they're turned off by by what they're hearing on the radio.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
What kind of message do you have for these kids.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That they don't really get to lift what we lift
through man, because they hear these stories from us, but
they don't really understand.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Man. I feel like one of those people that really
understand the culture.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
You gotta talk of their parents and also from the parents.
Kids ain't gonna understand it. Like there's certain things. There's
certain things like in my generation, like away from the music.
There's certain things in the generation that you know, people
my generation might let their kids get away with or
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do things and everything, and it's like, you know, our
parents would allow us to do this bad thing like that.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
And I think it's the it's the it's the anti culture.
It's the anti culture.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
So what it is is you have the previous culture
rebelling against the culture that was rual before them. Now
the things that we might see is corny. They think
it is all right. That's why we think it's corny.
It's like when I was in high school, right, yeah,
(17:54):
if a guy wore like if a guy wore like
skinny jeans.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
That's over with, bro bro over with? Will cook them cooks?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You you let me let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
There was There was people in my high school that
used to clown me a lot for wearing G units.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I used to wear a lot of J units. Still do.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Not everything I got. The only the only thing I
didn't have was the speakers I got. I had the
g I had the g Unit fitties, the do rags
that the G Unit watches.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I had.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I had several of the g Unus spinners.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I still got one of them somewhere at the j
Unit watched, JUnit chain unit, bracelet Unit earrings, jun dickies,
g Unit beatings are still rock the beatles, uh Junus
ski coat like I was June it up. The same
guys would clown me for rocking these units. And you
(18:57):
skip ten fifty ten years later. All of them look
like the lost like member of the Migos. All of
them got dread blocks, all of them got face tattoos,
all of them got all of.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Them skinny wearing.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You know, they all sheet yo, they all look alike,
they all sheep, they all they all got dreads, all
of them got different color tips, all of them. Like,
I was like, Yo, why do y'all look like the
next man? Like, all of y'all look like we easy
to be man like. That's what that's what That's what
(19:36):
drives me crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I'd be like, yo, I dress the way I dressed
because I'm a nineties baby. I'm never gonna change.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I don't care. I don't care. If I'm sixty years old,
you're gonna see me looking like rock Kimp.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Copy that, copy that.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And now, like you being an artist out here nowadays, man,
how is it for you just navigating networking artists nowadays?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You know, it's a little bit different back in the day.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
People say, well, hate us back in the day, but
I feel like they show a lot more unity and
love back then. Man, it's like nowadays. I mean, people
are gonna be cool, but it's like people be waiting
for a reason to hate off people. Have you been
experiencing that or not?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
The people that I do music with is people that
I genuinely like, likes, like like like a person.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Like it's not like.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
It's not like it's put together, you know how Like
they have R and B groups that are put together like.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah and everything nobody knows nobody from nowhere.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
But yet we stuck together until this contract is done, right.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
You know. The people that I have worked with musically
are people that I genuinely like, Like, I like these
people as a person. So it's it's nothing like, you know,
it's nothing fake about it, and you know, real recognize
it's real, right, And with that being.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Said, I consider you a real hip hop artist. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
What hip hop is about messages, and like I kind
of look at him being a real hip hop artist
as a form of doing missionary work for the culture.
Believe it or not, it's a form of doing missionary
work for the culture. Having a message. What do you
what message you want people to grab from your music
and just your ora in general.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I know your history, man, You gotta know your history.
Everything starts from the beginning, you know. Within my music,
Within my music, I talked about the black and brown people, Uh,
the African and the indigenous people of Americas.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
You know some of them are what are the same?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
That's something that's lacking within hip hop.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
You know, we got a lot of rappers, a lot
of mcs out there, but nobody's actually you know, doing
something like me.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I want my music to hit you.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Where you went to college, the same information that you
would get from the two years school from you know,
associate to four years for a bachelor, and if you
continue to go to graduate school, the same information that
you would acquire by you know.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Attended these classes. You can listen to my music. Top
of you.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I'm spitting game like that. You know, nobody's out here
really doing that. Like shoot, if it was back in
the day where it was CDs right where it has
like you know, the song cover and the song title
and the credits and everything like that.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I'll give you sources to everything that I looked up
right in the back. I'll give you the sources.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Now peep this man.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You've been making music since eleven years old, bro, and
you in your thirties, them in their mid thirties. Now,
I see a lot of people give up on their passion.
A lot of people stop doing stuff that they love.
I mean one year to do that, two years, three
years if for me for you to be doing it
twenty years later, the shows, but you love what you do.
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What has kept that passion going? And the reason why
I ask.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Because I like people just quit.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
So either it's important to here how someboddy kept on
going on something that's just been a.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Part of it.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
That's because they was doing it.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
If they just give up, they just doing it because
they wanted the fame and the fortune and everything.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I mean, don't get it twisted. Becoming a hip hop artist.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
The objective is to try to make money you and
the music yeah, yeah, is like what ten music and
ninety percent business.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
What you gotta understand is things don't happen overnight. You know,
there's some people that happen. It does happen nobody. Sometimes
it takes a little.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Bit of the time. But if you're a true musician,
that's never gonna stop.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Like I didn't hear I don't heard people say something
like if you in your thirties or get in your forties,
you need to stop rapping.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
How po variety wasn't He didn't stop opera until he died,
and he was like what the seventies eighties eight?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
The fact that hip hop is the youngest genre, but
yet you got to stop at a certain age. And
it's like it's like, actually, the older you get is
the better lyrics that you get because when you're young,
when you're young like that, you're not understanding life. So
you you're already picking mold in the talking about certain
things and less you're like an anomaly to where you're
(24:26):
aware of things well you know, but most of the
time when you're in your twenties, you know you're only
thinking about one track and one track man, And you're
not thinking about mind delevation.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
You're not thinking about you know, generational wealth.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
You know, so when you get older and you live life,
you get to experience stuff that's more stuff that you
can write down on the penn.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And pad exactly. Know that makes a lot of sense. Man.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Now you being a hip hop head and were twenty
twenty five, where do you see the culture going?
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Man?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
And I ain't talk about this is radio bush like
people like you know what I mean when I say
the culture, Like, what do you what do you see
the culture going in the next five to say years?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Mm hm, that's a that's a tough question because, uh,
hip hop. Hip hop is stagnant right now. It's gonna
have to take something to get it out the mundy
for people to actually be like who is this person?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Right?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
And the thing about it is it needs to be
just not one person. It needs to be a movement
like in different styles too. What I noticed that people
are one track mind the one track bumkus, you know,
so they can't handle different styles.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Like in the nineties, you know it was it wasn't
bad for you to listen to Little.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Kimp It wasn't bad for you to listen to miss
It wasn't bad for you to listen to Left That,
It wasn't bad for you to listen to Lady of Rage.
You can listen to all at the same time. It
wasn't bad for you to listen to Angie boun Teams.
But people get pigeonholding of a sound that you're supposed
to listen to one sound, and people will pope that
(26:12):
people want to go off or not and not appreciating
other people's style and sounds and everything like that.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Just I could, I could listen to.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Fucking Nons one minute, then I go and I'll listen
to DJ Quick, then go to DJ Quick, and then
I'll go over to Far Side, then go over to
the far Side. Listen to Arrested Development. They're from Arrested Development.
Listen to Lower and Hill like, you know, you gotta appreciate,
(26:47):
you know, different autists work and what they're saying to you,
because it's just.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Like going to school. When you go to school, you
just don't take one class too, right.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Right, exactly, you take multiple classes so you could collectively
function in society.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And over again, right, So how.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Can you can only be knowledgeable in one thing and
that one thing only it's like, you know, it's like
my cousin, Like I told you, my cousins said he
didn't like me because my music was hip hop and
he like rap. And it's like, well, because I'm not
talking about shooting niggas and shit like that, you can't
grasp it.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
But I was.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
I'm not talking about selling pats or nothing like that.
But you know, you can't grasp me because this is
the life that I'm not. You know that I'm not
pretty chee. You know, even though I'm from the hood.
Even though I'm from the hood, I wasn't you know
in it. You know that eighte for real, for real?
(27:53):
Like I always tell people, I said, if my life
was like if this was boys in the Hood, I'd
actually be tray mmm.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Mmm, I would actually be tray mm.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Now I got I got a question in our interview,
I want to we just naturally talked so easy, man,
but I got this question for you that popped in
my mind as you was talking about different types of
hip hop.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Man, And you're the right dude to finally ask this
question to drill music.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Man.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Do you consider drill music a part of real Is
that a part of hip hop? Or is that some
off side ships to you?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
And the reason I'm asking you because you from that
real again, gonna say you from that pure hip hop culture.
And for me, I battle with drill music. I actually
get mad at myself by seeing dirt lyrics. Is if
he catches sometimes and other type of drill music, even
though I do like it, I'd be like, damn, this
is so far from what we started at. How do
you feel about drill music?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Man?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
It's a bastard assed version against the rat hold.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
On, I gotta write that down. It's a bastard ass
version against the rap.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I like a description.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
I mean, I mean that's basically what it is. The
things that they're talking about is no different than with
the people that we was listening to in the early
two thousands and and everything like that.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
You know, it's no different. You know when you hear
something like, uh, what, what's what's Honie's name?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Chief Keith when he came out with that snitch, like,
I don't what's the difference between him saying that and
think me.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Saying I smell pussy?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Is that you I smell? That's you Jack, I smelled
no disrespect, no disrespect to urbag. I'm just making a yeah,
what I'm just saying. You know, there's the message behind
the records are still there.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
The difference is the sound is way different.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Than what we're you dude, and it's self snitching.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
It is self snitching. But if you look at it,
people people been self snitching like all the time. It's
just that that level though, on that level, not on
that level that.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
And and.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Cops you know they have they have like Pacific cops
for hip hop.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Remember the hip hop police was like, Bro, that ship,
I don't forget that ship. That's just serious, man, that's
just serious.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Now, before we go, if you're honest listener, we have
to do a part two to this interview about to
hit the thirty minute mark. But before we go, bro
to our next interview.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
You let people know where to get into with you
or a lot as far as your music, as far
as want to hit you up for features, as far as.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Want to get it to with your social media. How
do they do that?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Man? Oh man, it's easy man.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
First and foremost, you can check me out on iHeart Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
On iHeart Radio, Baby, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Just type in the search ball r A p s
t a r R one word that's rap star R
A p s t a r r, and you can
find singles that.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
I have dropped. Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Recently, I just came out with a joint called Indigenous Nation.
It dropped right on Indigenous People's Day. It's an answer
for Native Americans, Indigenous people, Happy Birthday. Hip hop political
statement nineteen ninety is power to my people.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Even like songs that I did.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
You know, features with with King Peter Hustler, like Coast
to Coast and Latin Love and Guando. You know, also
my other feature that I did with Lady V State
drippers on there, you know, so you can hit me up,
of course please, I Heeart Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I love you.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
This is what's uped man, It's definitely going down. Miss
the Music Rap Star aka Hurricane Camp. We don't got
enough time, man, but by the first my first question
the next interview, I.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Gotta know the story behind the nickname Hurricane Cam Man,
I gotta know the nickname behind that we do our
next interview, man, Like I was like, Hurricane Cam.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Hold on, there's some ship behind that, right, Hurricane.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
It's really it's really it's really it's really nothing to it.
All it is is uh, like I told you, I'm
influenced by Gene So.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
June and Shady Album, so I figure that, you know,
I have kind of like two personalities when it's like rappet,
so it's like you get the hip hop, the hip
hop ship, Okay.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You get the political cool golf course stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
So if you remember back in O five when Game
got kicked out of g Unit and that aggression that
he had and all of his mixtapes from like three
hundred Balls and Mixtape Tap and everything like that, Hurricane
Cam is like the embodiment of that. But I'm political,
(33:14):
you know, So I'm aiming that whole negative energy and
I'm aiming at everybody who who was corrupted and got
over in the black and brown community. You know, that's
where you have you know, political statement that comes you
know with that. So that's not Hurricane Hurricane, Hurricane Game.
That's what he changes his name.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, you know what's crazy, Broke. I've heard him say
Hurricane Game.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
And I actually noticed on the New Jersey Devil mixed
sae uh what in the Jersey it's whatever mixing had
the I spelled pussy on it or why no, no,
why he smell like that? Why he smelled like that?
That was only why he spelled like that. He said
Hurricane game, first family, bitch, money over pitches. I've never
recognized that minute like I heard, but I recognized what
(34:04):
he was talking about.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Then they even made a skit Jeeven.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
It made his skit in one of the mixtapes where
they was going that game and they had game on
the on the cover and he.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Was a stripper.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I remember that. I remember that. That's that's what the intro.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
The intro was him dancing at a strip club and
they announced in this Hurricane game.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I was weak. No, that's wild man.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yo, fifty was trolling niggas before the Internet.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
You fifty is a nuts Oh no, he been like
that for real. He's been like that. Yo.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Come on now, when you come out, when you come
out with a song called wangsteron and you got your
son holding a doll that.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Looked like you, yeah, come on, man, come on man,
you know we got a gold bag or a lot.
I was sad with game June. I thought he was that.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I'm not even love I wis I was heartbroken. I
was heartbroken when he last heartbroken Buck Last Part bro
Man bro Olivia, Last, Spider Low Last.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Like we talked about hip hop right, like, how how
big would do you need to be to this day?
But if they would have stayed, if you imagine that
impact on the on the culture.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
It would have been different. It definitely would have God
damn definitely would have been different.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
God damn.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Well.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
M MTC.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Man, it's your man, miss the music. You know what
I'm saying. My man been here holding it down with me.
My man raps out a hurry K camp, Hey, appreciate
your time. Man.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
We're gonna put this again soon.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Let's
Yeah, man, it's going down m NTC Radio. iHeartRadio, the
station designed to keep your mind. Man, y'all know what
it is managed your man miss the music and we
stay with nothing but the best indie artists from all
across the world.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I got my man holding it down. Rap Star aka
Hurricane Can. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Bro? Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
What's good man? Thank you for having me on the show.
It's good man, Man.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's all good. Bro.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Now, a lot of people who know who get Minnesota artists,
Hollywood artists, East Coast artist, Texas artists.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Let them know where you're from.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
From the East Coast, baby, Pittsburgh, PA. You know what
it is man, east side?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Now, what's the connection is a lot of people? I
feel like, you know, it's Khalif made a little noise
for the for.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
The p town.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
But it's like, I feel like guys get easily overshadowed
by Philly and so talking to artists like he was
kind of refreshing. Now let's just take it back, man, Like,
take it back back. When did you even first write
your first joint?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Like?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
How old was you?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
How did that even come about?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I was I was around like maybe like eleven twelve.
You know around that age when I first started writing
my rhymes. You know, it was crazy though, because if
it wasn't for my favorite rapper actually you know, uh
influencing me to actually start rapping in my favorite rappers
(01:31):
Eminem slim Shading.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You know my word word where and you know, when
I seen him.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I remember being at my grandmother's Senior Citizens place. My
grandmother used to go to the c Citizens place and
after school she dragged me everywhere, you know, and the
old people they loved me up there, and I remember
I came home one day. I sat in the Cormon
room watching TV and I was watching tr L with
Cars Daily and they showed the D twelve blue and
(02:04):
Yellow pills And that was the first time I actually
seen like Eminem for real real and I got intrigued.
And when I started listening to more of his music,
you know, I decided, I was like, this is what
I want to do.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Oh yeah, was like like plar cool, just like my model,
A couple of dis beside the farm.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay with you young, full up off fun yo.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I never seen nothing like that. I was like, I
was like, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
And then you know, shortly after, you know, my mom
she worked for. She worked for two Pittsburgh radio stations,
and I remember she I would beg her to like
make me like a mixtape in one of my songs
that I wanted to download. With Eminem's Guilty Conscience, that's
like forever one of my buying because of you know,
(02:59):
his pigmin ship, the fact that he's telling the story
within his music.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
You know, you can get it.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
You know, everybody has that phone coin, you know, things
that they're going.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Through, you know, and it's just he's an amazing artist.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
And when he signed fifty cent in the G Unit,
then that's.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
When I decided I want to do hip hop for real.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So around that time, when the Gun the mixtape was
up and popping around like two thousand and two, two
thousand and three, I want to say it was two
thousand and three, yea, yeah, the mixtapes started popping. And
what I used to do was I used to go
to like the local record store in the neighborhood and
I would buy mixtapes. And it was not just you
(03:42):
know mixtapes, you know, like I had my dad used
to get like exclusive mixtapes, you know from DJ k Slay,
The Clue, the NVP Cutter, you know, all of them
guys who kid and you know, after that, I started
doing other mixtapes. Like there was mixtapes that people had
were it was just instrumentals. So you would have like
(04:05):
a mixtape that had nothing but eminem instrumentals, Doctor Dre Instruments,
fifty cent instruments, Timberland History, Scott Starts, you know, uh uh, instrumentals, premiere,
you know, instrumentals, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
And so what I would do is I would buy
these mixtapes.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
And when I would get these mixtapes, since they're already
in like the instrumental form, all I had to do
is just write the words, Yeah, just lay it down.
So that's when I taught myself how to write it
in the sixteen bolls each versus sixteen boys depending on.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
How the full matterstruction.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
So you would have like the sixteen boys, the eighteen boys,
the twenty boys. Yeah, and then the chorus is full balls, repetitive.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
You know, you gotta have it like you know, gotta
have a catchy hook.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Then you got the breakdowns, the bridges, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
So I kind of taught myself how to write like
hip hop form.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So I gotta ask you a question, man, like soul
because you're getting into music, writing songs and like doing
stuff as a pre teen.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, eleven years old, your preteen at that point.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Man, Like I'm playing Nintendo with Docy call and shit,
I'm asked my mom for like, you know, the new
the new Mortal Combat and shit, you over here working
on mixtapes.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
How do you think how do you think that helped
your outlook growing up? Do you think that even with words?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Do you think that made you more inclined with words
of the kids your age?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Did it help you spell better? Like? How is that?
How did that formancy your life outside of music?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Well, it was kind of like I was already going
in that direction because I was like when I was
real young, I was going to Catholic school. I was
already kind of ahead of the curve, Like I write
in cursive even till this day, like I get writing
in print, and even if I do write in print,
I'll switch back to cursive. But I write the cursive
like that's the Catholic school league. And I was exposed
(05:59):
to other things, like you know, being in play. So
I was reading Shakespeare like you know, second grade. I
was actually Romeo Romeo and Juliet in a play. You know,
when I was in second grade, so I was already
into it and into the entertainment like aspect and as
far as being a writer, like I'm a writer anyway,
(06:21):
like Outley used to write little short stories or I draw.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
That's like my number one talent is I know how
to draw.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I haven't drawn anything in a while, but I've been
drawing since I was one.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
So as I got older, I started a choiring.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Like different talents overhead head, you know, picking up different stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
So you know, it just all comes with it.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
And like I said, just me writing in the song
format and having to beat in different beats and you know,
coming up with different creative ideas to where it makes
you want to listen and grabs your audience, you know.
And I involved to a hip hop artist, like the
type of hip hop artists I am.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I'm like a proud of it because of like.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Making music for the people for not only like you
know the hip hop is, but for the nineties baby,
for the culture, for the blacks and the brown people.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
No, that's special, man, especially with all the negativity that
we have going on to hip hop. Man, that we
don't even see in country, we don't see in pop,
we don't see in rocket eedm just in our culture.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Now, with that being said, it seemed.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Like kind of been a performer in an art creator
from a young age. But when was the first time
you actually have to perform, and like where was that.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
At the first time I performed was at my college.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
When I went to college, I performed. It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So what I did was every like when I went
to college, I made everybody knew, like everybody knew like
around me that it was around me. I don't care
if it was faculty, staff, lunch lady and it is
stud And I let everybody know I can rap, and
damn it, everybody knew I can rap, to be on
point and everything like that. Well, people would actually like
(08:11):
be knocking on my doors, come out, I want to
hear something that that third, so they had the Black
Student Union put on a township every year a couple
of times a year year. It was my first time
actually going out for performing four people and I performed
each year each time they had the Black Student Union township.
(08:33):
I rock it like I would rock you like it
was crazy. I got like I'm on front page newspaper
at the California Pennsylvania University newspaper a few times. Uh,
they put me on a mural on a mural form
the hip hop conference. I was actually working on the
(08:54):
mural and what happened was we was they have a
hip hop conference every year, and I was a porto.
Actually performed for the hip hop conference too. This is
where I me at KRS one. This is where I
met Dougie Fresh Wow. Where I'm at Michael Erry Dyson.
This is where I met If you don't know, he
(09:14):
is the ancestor or his ancestor is the great, great,
great great Brand. He's the great great brandson of Oker T.
Washington and Frederick Douglas. His name is Kenneth B. Moore's
June at a pleasure of you know, meeting him while
I was in college. So I lot of I met
(09:35):
a lot of good people up in college and when
I performed these you know places, Even till this day,
there's times where I'm out and about and the people
that I went to college.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
But it was like, oh, I read used a lot
damn Like I.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Used to throw my shirts out into the crowd. Girls
are catching screaming and everything. I guess some of it
on YouTube and everything like that, Like.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It was, it was crazy, it's like l.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Cool copy Now when we looked at you, man, like
it's almost like when you talk, it's almost like you're
speaking of hip hop.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's kind of funny when we look at you. Your
your fashion culture says hip hop, the cult. You see
what I'm saying. Yeah, see the creed.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, so it's like then I got I got myself
too on a shirt too.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's what it's like.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
The culture has changed so much, man, and you've been
around for a lot of it. What's one of the
biggest things in the culture that has changed that you
think about so much that when you wish were still
there and the reason you go ask you re.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Questions like that.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But with you, I could tell you really from this
like we're from that same era. Brom I'm forty one
years old. Put that, I'm twenty one, so we can't
be too far off the way.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
You thought me.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, I'm thirty four, so.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah. I Mean.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
The thing that I miss most about it is.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
The authenticity the talent, like real talent, you know, not
just overnights you know, celebrities or overnight fame real yeah,
like real talent, and the fact that you would anticipate
multiple artists is coming out, not just one, but you
(11:31):
would get excited when Eminem would drop on the same days,
like dud right the same days, the mess, you know,
and everybody eight you know.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I think what it is is.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Everybody has a gimmick when it comes to being an autist.
It's like the gimmick is what salespeople, and the gimmick
keeps people.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
But I think people be more worried about them.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
And actually, you know, talent right right, everybody raps like
everybody rapp.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
So it's like.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
If everybody raps, but nobody's really saying it. And I
think that the underground hip hop of course has a
lot of talent, but it's just a glass ceiling.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Now it's a lot better now.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
With streaming and in views and everything like that, different
other things, is a lot better for artists to actually
reach the demography that they should.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
But at the same time, people like to encourage the bullshit,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
It's like, It's like, I'm there was a guy that
I see the other day at work and he's he's foreign,
he's from Russia and he comes here and he's like,
he's God bless America.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I love America. Is this America? Is that like the
man is all right, It's all right.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It was like you got the complexion for the protection,
for the collection exact. Somebody who looked like me would
have a different perspective of you, exactly history that comes
behind it. We're not really to pic cheerio and waving
the American flag. So it's just, you know, it's different, different,
(13:35):
you know, perspectives, and everybody got a different perspective when
it comes to hip hop. You know, there's certain things
where I'll say something and people would totally be like
flip or disagree.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Like I tell people, I say, you know what, the nineties,
between the eighties and the nineties was the golden age
of hip hop.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
But what it really started the pop was when multiple artists,
like I said before, would come out on the same
day and everybody sell like everybody.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Now we have like a culture where like if you
look at in women in hip hop, it feels like
nobody and hip hop could actually try to.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Acknowledge other females at the same time. It's like it
gotta be one person for right now. And then something else, and.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So how do you feel how do you feel about Nikki? Man?
Speaker 7 (14:39):
You feel Nikki be doing too much? You feel Nikki
don't give enough props to other systems or what. That's
how I feel if I saw if I met Nikki
interview or right now, like Nikki, what's your problem with
what's your problem with Caudi?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Man? What's your problem with these people that came after you?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I'm gonna say this. You know, I like Nikki's music,
the old Nikki. Yeah, yeah, your old Nikki.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
I'm a little Kim fan. And you know, Little Kim's
one of my biggest influences. And I remember watching the
documentary that she came out years ago called play Times Over,
and it was literally a whole documentary not just from
her perspective, but other people's perspective, like Lady Luck, if
you know Lady Luck and everything like that. Other people
(15:29):
in the industry is seeing certain things about how she's
copying herself off of this woman who also throwing jazz
at her at at the same time, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So it would be like me going on an interview
in saying I.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Love Eminem, I love fifty and then like in records,
I'm doing subliminal shots.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It's just you can't it just don't. It just don't
make sense. You know, you pay homage, You pay homage
to what it is you know.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
You know you can go only get in the game
because you see people, people alienating themselves away from people.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
People are crazy out here. Yeah I wasn't really crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I don't really like the fact that, like you said,
she was giving props a little kid and just switched
it up. And my biggest issue with her is she
ain't gave props for you. Nobody came after her except
for Ice Spice a little bit and that turns into
a more or two.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
So that's why I wanted to bring that little But
I'm moving forward. Man.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Here we are twenty twenty five. The landscape is different
than hip hop, you know what I'm saying. And a
lot of these kids where they hear this real hip hop,
they're turned off by by what they're hearing on the radio.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
What kind of message do you have for these kids.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That they don't really get to lift what we lift
through man, because they hear these stories from us, but
they don't really understand.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Man. I feel like one of those people that really
understand the culture.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
You gotta talk of their parents and also from the parents.
Kids ain't gonna understand it. Like there's certain things. There's
certain things like in my generation, like away from the music.
There's certain things in the generation that you know, people
my generation might let their kids get away with or
(17:20):
do things and everything, and it's like, you know, our
parents would allow us to do this bad thing like that.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
And I think it's the it's the it's the anti culture.
It's the anti culture.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
So what it is is you have the previous culture
rebelling against the culture that was rual before them. Now
the things that we might see is corny. They think
it is all right. That's why we think it's corny.
It's like when I was in high school, right, yeah,
(17:54):
if a guy wore like if a guy wore like
skinny jeans.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
That's over with, bro bro over with? Will cook them cooks?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You you let me let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
There was There was people in my high school that
used to clown me a lot for wearing G units.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I used to wear a lot of J units. Still do.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Not everything I got. The only the only thing I
didn't have was the speakers I got. I had the
g I had the g Unit fitties, the do rags
that the G Unit watches.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I had.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I had several of the g Unus spinners.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I still got one of them somewhere at the j
Unit watched, JUnit chain unit, bracelet Unit earrings, jun dickies,
g Unit beatings are still rock the beatles, uh Junus
ski coat like I was June it up. The same
guys would clown me for rocking these units. And you
(18:57):
skip ten fifty ten years later. All of them look
like the lost like member of the Migos. All of
them got dread blocks, all of them got face tattoos,
all of them got all of.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Them skinny wearing.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You know, they all sheet yo, they all look alike,
they all sheep, they all they all got dreads, all
of them got different color tips, all of them. Like,
I was like, Yo, why do y'all look like the
next man? Like, all of y'all look like we easy
to be man like. That's what that's what That's what
(19:36):
drives me crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I'd be like, yo, I dress the way I dressed
because I'm a nineties baby. I'm never gonna change.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I don't care. I don't care. If I'm sixty years old,
you're gonna see me looking like rock Kimp.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Copy that, copy that.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And now, like you being an artist out here nowadays, man,
how is it for you just navigating networking artists nowadays?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You know, it's a little bit different back in the day.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
People say, well, hate us back in the day, but
I feel like they show a lot more unity and
love back then. Man, it's like nowadays. I mean, people
are gonna be cool, but it's like people be waiting
for a reason to hate off people. Have you been
experiencing that or not?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
The people that I do music with is people that
I genuinely like, likes, like like like a person.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Like it's not like.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
It's not like it's put together, you know how Like
they have R and B groups that are put together like.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah and everything nobody knows nobody from nowhere.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
But yet we stuck together until this contract is done, right.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
You know. The people that I have worked with musically
are people that I genuinely like, Like, I like these
people as a person. So it's it's nothing like, you know,
it's nothing fake about it, and you know, real recognize
it's real, right, And with that being.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Said, I consider you a real hip hop artist. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
What hip hop is about messages, and like I kind
of look at him being a real hip hop artist
as a form of doing missionary work for the culture.
Believe it or not, it's a form of doing missionary
work for the culture. Having a message. What do you
what message you want people to grab from your music
and just your ora in general.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I know your history, man, You gotta know your history.
Everything starts from the beginning, you know. Within my music,
Within my music, I talked about the black and brown people, Uh,
the African and the indigenous people of Americas.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
You know some of them are what are the same?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
That's something that's lacking within hip hop.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
You know, we got a lot of rappers, a lot
of mcs out there, but nobody's actually you know, doing
something like me.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I want my music to hit you.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Where you went to college, the same information that you
would get from the two years school from you know,
associate to four years for a bachelor, and if you
continue to go to graduate school, the same information that
you would acquire by you know.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Attended these classes. You can listen to my music. Top
of you.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I'm spitting game like that. You know, nobody's out here
really doing that. Like shoot, if it was back in
the day where it was CDs right where it has
like you know, the song cover and the song title
and the credits and everything like that.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I'll give you sources to everything that I looked up
right in the back. I'll give you the sources.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Now peep this man.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You've been making music since eleven years old, bro, and
you in your thirties, them in their mid thirties. Now,
I see a lot of people give up on their passion.
A lot of people stop doing stuff that they love.
I mean one year to do that, two years, three
years if for me for you to be doing it
twenty years later, the shows, but you love what you do.
(22:58):
What has kept that passion going? And the reason why
I ask.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Because I like people just quit.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
So either it's important to here how someboddy kept on
going on something that's just been a.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Part of it.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
That's because they was doing it.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
If they just give up, they just doing it because
they wanted the fame and the fortune and everything.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I mean, don't get it twisted. Becoming a hip hop artist.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
The objective is to try to make money you and
the music yeah, yeah, is like what ten music and
ninety percent business.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
What you gotta understand is things don't happen overnight. You know,
there's some people that happen. It does happen nobody. Sometimes
it takes a little.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Bit of the time. But if you're a true musician,
that's never gonna stop.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Like I didn't hear I don't heard people say something
like if you in your thirties or get in your forties,
you need to stop rapping.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
How po variety wasn't He didn't stop opera until he died,
and he was like what the seventies eighties eight?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
The fact that hip hop is the youngest genre, but
yet you got to stop at a certain age. And
it's like it's like, actually, the older you get is
the better lyrics that you get because when you're young,
when you're young like that, you're not understanding life. So
you you're already picking mold in the talking about certain
things and less you're like an anomaly to where you're
(24:26):
aware of things well you know, but most of the
time when you're in your twenties, you know you're only
thinking about one track and one track man, And you're
not thinking about mind delevation.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
You're not thinking about you know, generational wealth.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
You know, so when you get older and you live life,
you get to experience stuff that's more stuff that you
can write down on the penn.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And pad exactly. Know that makes a lot of sense. Man.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Now you being a hip hop head and were twenty
twenty five, where do you see the culture going?
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Man?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
And I ain't talk about this is radio bush like
people like you know what I mean when I say
the culture, Like, what do you what do you see
the culture going in the next five to say years?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Mm hm, that's a that's a tough question because, uh,
hip hop. Hip hop is stagnant right now. It's gonna
have to take something to get it out the mundy
for people to actually be like who is this person?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Right?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
And the thing about it is it needs to be
just not one person. It needs to be a movement
like in different styles too. What I noticed that people
are one track mind the one track bumkus, you know,
so they can't handle different styles.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Like in the nineties, you know it was it wasn't
bad for you to listen to Little.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Kimp It wasn't bad for you to listen to miss
It wasn't bad for you to listen to Left That,
It wasn't bad for you to listen to Lady of Rage.
You can listen to all at the same time. It
wasn't bad for you to listen to Angie boun Teams.
But people get pigeonholding of a sound that you're supposed
to listen to one sound, and people will pope that
(26:12):
people want to go off or not and not appreciating
other people's style and sounds and everything like that.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Just I could, I could listen to.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Fucking Nons one minute, then I go and I'll listen
to DJ Quick, then go to DJ Quick, and then
I'll go over to Far Side, then go over to
the far Side. Listen to Arrested Development. They're from Arrested Development.
Listen to Lower and Hill like, you know, you gotta appreciate,
(26:47):
you know, different autists work and what they're saying to you,
because it's just.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Like going to school. When you go to school, you
just don't take one class too, right.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Right, exactly, you take multiple classes so you could collectively
function in society.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And over again, right, So how.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Can you can only be knowledgeable in one thing and
that one thing only it's like, you know, it's like
my cousin, Like I told you, my cousins said he
didn't like me because my music was hip hop and
he like rap. And it's like, well, because I'm not
talking about shooting niggas and shit like that, you can't
grasp it.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
But I was.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
I'm not talking about selling pats or nothing like that.
But you know, you can't grasp me because this is
the life that I'm not. You know that I'm not
pretty chee. You know, even though I'm from the hood.
Even though I'm from the hood, I wasn't you know
in it. You know that eighte for real, for real?
(27:53):
Like I always tell people, I said, if my life
was like if this was boys in the Hood, I'd
actually be tray mmm.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Mmm, I would actually be tray mm.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Now I got I got a question in our interview,
I want to we just naturally talked so easy, man,
but I got this question for you that popped in
my mind as you was talking about different types of
hip hop.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Man, And you're the right dude to finally ask this
question to drill music.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Man.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Do you consider drill music a part of real Is
that a part of hip hop? Or is that some
off side ships to you?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
And the reason I'm asking you because you from that
real again, gonna say you from that pure hip hop culture.
And for me, I battle with drill music. I actually
get mad at myself by seeing dirt lyrics. Is if
he catches sometimes and other type of drill music, even
though I do like it, I'd be like, damn, this
is so far from what we started at. How do
you feel about drill music?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Man?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
It's a bastard assed version against the rat hold.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
On, I gotta write that down. It's a bastard ass
version against the rap.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I like a description.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
I mean, I mean that's basically what it is. The
things that they're talking about is no different than with
the people that we was listening to in the early
two thousands and and everything like that.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
You know, it's no different. You know when you hear
something like, uh, what, what's what's Honie's name?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Chief Keith when he came out with that snitch, like,
I don't what's the difference between him saying that and
think me.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Saying I smell pussy?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Is that you I smell? That's you Jack, I smelled
no disrespect, no disrespect to urbag. I'm just making a yeah,
what I'm just saying. You know, there's the message behind
the records are still there.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
The difference is the sound is way different.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Than what we're you dude, and it's self snitching.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
It is self snitching. But if you look at it,
people people been self snitching like all the time. It's
just that that level though, on that level, not on
that level that.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
And and.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Cops you know they have they have like Pacific cops
for hip hop.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Remember the hip hop police was like, Bro, that ship,
I don't forget that ship. That's just serious, man, that's
just serious.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Now, before we go, if you're honest listener, we have
to do a part two to this interview about to
hit the thirty minute mark. But before we go, bro
to our next interview.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
You let people know where to get into with you
or a lot as far as your music, as far
as want to hit you up for features, as far as.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Want to get it to with your social media. How
do they do that?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Man? Oh man, it's easy man.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
First and foremost, you can check me out on iHeart Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
On iHeart Radio, Baby, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Just type in the search ball r A p s
t a r R one word that's rap star R
A p s t a r r, and you can
find singles that.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
I have dropped. Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Recently, I just came out with a joint called Indigenous Nation.
It dropped right on Indigenous People's Day. It's an answer
for Native Americans, Indigenous people, Happy Birthday. Hip hop political
statement nineteen ninety is power to my people.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Even like songs that I did.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
You know, features with with King Peter Hustler, like Coast
to Coast and Latin Love and Guando. You know, also
my other feature that I did with Lady V State
drippers on there, you know, so you can hit me up,
of course please, I Heeart Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I love you.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
This is what's uped man, It's definitely going down. Miss
the Music Rap Star aka Hurricane Camp. We don't got
enough time, man, but by the first my first question
the next interview, I.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Gotta know the story behind the nickname Hurricane Cam Man,
I gotta know the nickname behind that we do our
next interview, man, Like I was like, Hurricane Cam.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Hold on, there's some ship behind that, right, Hurricane.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
It's really it's really it's really it's really nothing to it.
All it is is uh, like I told you, I'm
influenced by Gene So.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
June and Shady Album, so I figure that, you know,
I have kind of like two personalities when it's like rappet,
so it's like you get the hip hop, the hip
hop ship, Okay.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You get the political cool golf course stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
So if you remember back in O five when Game
got kicked out of g Unit and that aggression that
he had and all of his mixtapes from like three
hundred Balls and Mixtape Tap and everything like that, Hurricane
Cam is like the embodiment of that. But I'm political,
(33:14):
you know, So I'm aiming that whole negative energy and
I'm aiming at everybody who who was corrupted and got
over in the black and brown community. You know, that's
where you have you know, political statement that comes you
know with that. So that's not Hurricane Hurricane, Hurricane Game.
That's what he changes his name.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, you know what's crazy, Broke. I've heard him say
Hurricane Game.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
And I actually noticed on the New Jersey Devil mixed
sae uh what in the Jersey it's whatever mixing had
the I spelled pussy on it or why no, no,
why he smell like that? Why he smelled like that?
That was only why he spelled like that. He said
Hurricane game, first family, bitch, money over pitches. I've never
recognized that minute like I heard, but I recognized what
(34:04):
he was talking about.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Then they even made a skit Jeeven.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
It made his skit in one of the mixtapes where
they was going that game and they had game on
the on the cover and he.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Was a stripper.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I remember that. I remember that. That's that's what the intro.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
The intro was him dancing at a strip club and
they announced in this Hurricane game.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I was weak. No, that's wild man.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yo, fifty was trolling niggas before the Internet.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
You fifty is a nuts Oh no, he been like
that for real. He's been like that. Yo.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Come on now, when you come out, when you come
out with a song called wangsteron and you got your
son holding a doll that.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Looked like you, yeah, come on, man, come on man,
you know we got a gold bag or a lot.
I was sad with game June. I thought he was that.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I'm not even love I wis I was heartbroken. I
was heartbroken when he last heartbroken Buck Last Part bro
Man bro Olivia, Last, Spider Low Last.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Like we talked about hip hop right, like, how how
big would do you need to be to this day?
But if they would have stayed, if you imagine that
impact on the on the culture.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
It would have been different. It definitely would have God
damn definitely would have been different.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
God damn.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Well.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
M MTC.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Man, it's your man, miss the music. You know what
I'm saying. My man been here holding it down with me.
My man raps out a hurry K camp, Hey, appreciate
your time. Man.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
We're gonna put this again soon.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Let's
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